Will Andy Burnham get his coronation?

19:03And then their tone changes when I ask them questions about their home life. She shot with me last night for talking. What, talking in the tent? Yeah. How much was she talking in the tent? I was trying to go sleep and all I heard was you laughing. She wouldn't shut up. I did. I fell asleep. This sounds like a fabulous evening already. Now, can you tell me your name, Han, how old you are and how long you've been a young carer? Tia, 16. Tell me how difficult it is to be a carer and try and juggle with all the GCSEs and everything. Hard, because you can't really do any revision. It could turn you looking after Dad and then your parents.

19:46It could be very draining. So how old are you, Ava, and how long have you been a young carer? I'm 13, I've been a young carer for one year now. In your life, it's complicated juggling being a child with being a carer? Yeah, because whenever I have to clean my room, I've got to try and encourage my sister to, and then I've also got to try and do my homework after it as well. So what do you think people most have in common here, and what's the advantage of having a weekend together? You don't have to rely on your own resources to try and help and sort out your siblings and your parents and that.

20:23How sad do you get, Tia? And how difficult can things be? Very stressful and exhausting. So when you feel stressed, what does that feel like? When it gets too much, I normally go when no-one is and go on my phone and try and take five minutes of break from everyone. What are you enjoying doing? have you seen the schedule going on the rides yeah and did but i heard you've also been out in the canoe yeah i didn't do nothing because i didn't know my left or right is that your teacher there yeah do you want to come over rachel can i talk to you yeah so how was it um in the canoe with tia horrendous tia doesn't know left from right so we were just going around in circles for a little while so it was very tiring so in the end tia just put the oar down and then i was just doing all the work.

21:17Is that true? Yeah. How big a weekend do you think this is for them? This has been massive. We're in a deprived area and we do have a lot of young carers. So we set it up and then we've been fundraising. The school have really helped a lot but we've done raffles, we've done other things to get the money to bring the students away and also we've raised money from staff so that on the way home we can get a McDonald's and an ice cream. What's been the impact on you of seeing nearly a thousand people all who know what young caring is just seeing all the young children enjoying themselves i mean we were dancing for three hours non-stop last night with people that we didn't know as well it's just been fantastic and to see them all feel comfortable enough with each other you know it's not like oh we can't say this we can't say that they all know how they're each of them are feeling i'm nick cook i am the director of young

22:09Patrick Maguire:people's services at the Children's Society. What do some 12 to 15 year olds do in the home that is called young caring? What tasks are they doing as we speak? I won't be able to do it full justice but there are many tasks that young carers can pick up. That can include picking up prescriptions for the person that they're caring for, that might be a parent or a sibling, it could be cooking, it could be cleaning, supporting the parent or sibling to undertake certain daily activities that might be getting into the bathroom to the toilet and does it mean that something is lost from their childhood they don't talk about it in terms of something being missing from their their life but as adults we know that it means that they do have to make compromises so going to see friends spending time with other people and being able to have that freedom that should come with being a child so what we desperately want in the world is to minimise what we call the inappropriate caring responsibilities because we know for young carers there's something about wanting to support their family to enable them to be able to live their life have good friendships have fun engage with things that happen in the world and not to feel the pressure overtakes their life well there's sophie ellis bexter as i bid my goodbye to the Young Carers Festival and it got me thinking just what is that final goodbye like for the hundreds of people around me back to Nick Cook from the Children's Society.

23:43Patrick Maguire:It's very emotional there's lots of hugging there's lots of tears there's lots of hurrahs but it's quite quite emotional watching everyone go off on the Sunday morning as they travel back to their home. With thanks to the YMCA there and to the Children's Society and all the young carers. Bon voyage today. Now, temperatures are coming in from around the UK. Mary says, what heatwave? It's 17 in Edinburgh and it hasn't got any higher than 23 all week. Susie in Dumfries says it's cloudy and 16 degrees, thank goodness. John's in Salford where it's 19. Sarah's 20 degrees. It's cool for Harrogate. Perfect for the Harrogate 10k this morning.

24:22Susie's in Bodycock North Oxfordshire, 21 degrees and she's surprised the word oof. Sarah says it's 25 in South Crease in Norfolk. It's still warm but tantalisingly close to Chile. David's on the Isle of Sheppey where it's 22. Suzanne Croxley Green in Hertfordshire says few, 22. She's a poet, I think. Robin Walton-on-Thames, 22. Angela's 22 in south-west London. James is in Chichester, it's 24 and he has the word windy. I don't know why he's sending us that. Catherine says, I'm currently counting wild geese at the lakes in Longham, Dorset. The sun is emerging. It's a delightful 21. Alison's in Penzance.

25:01Well, it's 16. Helen, it's only 31 here where I live in Cyprus. That shouldn't have slipped in. PJ and Marion are travelling in Europe in their 23-year-old motorhome, finding the coolest places. And it's just 20 degrees on the west coast of Portugal. When you hear the phrase made in China, what do you think? I'm Tristan Redman. And I'm Asma Khalid, and together we host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. And today on our show, we look at the origins and evolution of made in China, because it actually wasn't inevitable. What we're talking about is the world's largest communist nation is at the beating heart of the capitalist system.

25:41For more, listen to The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

25:50This is BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House. Let's turn to the views of Harry Redknapp, the legendary football manager, returns to BH to give us Harry's half-time report. Harry, welcome back. How are we? Good morning. Where are you, by the way? How is, sorry? Are you on the golf course? I am. I'm playing with Tony... I'm playing with Tony Pulis. and we're playing three holes on three down. Not a good start. I'd pay to watch. Now, Harry, give us your half-time report. How is the World Cup going? It's OK. I haven't seen anybody at the moment who I would say was sure to win it. It's a very open competition.

26:32I think there's some good games coming up. I think Brazil, Japan will be interesting. Japan are dangerous.

26:40So it's wide open. Let's talk about a clear winner, Harry Kane. He's broken the record as England's all-time leading World Cup scorer. You gave Harry Kane his debut when he was 18, I'm told, by the team. You must be buzzing, Harry. Yeah, I mean, Harry Kane is amazing, isn't he? I mean, him and Bellingham so far have been the standout players for England, scored the vital goals. England's had one good half. For Croatia's second half, we were fantastic. Other than that, I think we've been quite average. What do we think Tuchel says at half-time? Because a lot of the team behaviour seems to improve after his half-time talk.

27:26He says that the 2-0 victory in New Jersey was a hard piece of work for the players. Does he get the hairdryer out? What does Thomas Tuchel do at half-time? I don't know, actually. I don't know him, really. I wouldn't know how he'd be in the dressing room. But, you know, it's now you don't get very far by using the hairdresser, the air dryer treatment. You might be better off using a hairdresser treatment with some of them. But the hairdryer is definitely not working these days. I think the modern day player don't respond to being told off too much. They've got such big egos. Wow, that's interesting.

28:01So you've got to deal with the egos rather than... You have absolutely. Do you regret that? Well, that's how it's gone, unfortunately, now. I mean, you're dealing with young lads who are so wealthy, they're all multimillionaires and they're all superstars in their own rights. So, yeah, it's become more difficult, for sure. And with respect to the amazing efforts of our team players and the Scotland players, it is perhaps what viewers and people who aren't the major sports fans love about the World Cup, the 40-year-old goalkeeper, the small islands that beat the big countries, Do you love the sort of underdog moments in the World Cup?

28:42Yeah, I mean, it's been amazing to see Messi still playing and scoring. You know, I felt very sad for Scotland, really, that Steve Clarke's had to go. But what chance did he have? You know, they beat Haiti. And then, unfortunately, Morocco and Brazil are much better teams, much better players. You know, I don't care who would have managed Scotland. They wouldn't have won their games. you look at their players and it's a shame they've got they've got two or three top players and after that they're very very short of inequality Scotland. We have one listener who doesn't really like the coverage of the football going into BH and I wonder if you can take us through the next stage we're saying it's half time because we now go to the sort of knockout stages when there's a lot more jeopardy do you find it very stressful yourself watching because I know the Jeopardy stage can be very stressful for people.

29:36No, I don't get too stressed. I spent all my life being stressed watching, sitting on the touchline, you know, when your life meets your livelihood and you're there representing the club you manage. I'm quite relaxed about the World Cup, to be honest with you. I sit and watch it, hope England can win. But, you know, I'm not going to stress myself out with it for sure. And so in your household, do you ever have to change your plans? Do you have plans that you've made to go to dinner and then a game changes? You have to change your domestic arrangements, Harry. Well, not really. We went out for dinner last night, but we went out a little bit earlier, me and my wife, and got back earlier to watch the football.

30:16So, yeah, I'll be truthful. Once England went 2-0 up, I was struggling to keep awake, and I fell asleep and went to sleep because I knew there was no way Panama could come from 2-0 down to beat England. I mean, no disrespect to Panama, it's hard to know what standard they would be. If they were in England, they'd be the bottom half of the championship team. Right, OK. It's good to know because you've really bonded with the BH Lister by saying you went to sleep during an England game. I have one Lister who doesn't like it. I'm sorry, yeah, 10 minutes to go. I couldn't help it. I mean, listen, I'm nearly 80 years of age.

30:49I get tired at night, you know. Finally, what's your tip for golf? You're on the golf course. What's the best tip you've ever been given in golf? Watched the club hit the ball, but unfortunately I'm not listening to that advice today. My head's coming up. I'm playing with Tony Pulis, as you know, a fantastic manager in his time that managed so many great clubs. He's three up after three holes, so I'm banging trouble here today. I worked at a golf club. Can I pass on the way to put off your opponent? Can you see? Yeah, I'm going to tell you how you can put off your opponent. How? You ask your opponent, do you breathe in on your backswing?

31:31Right. And they've never thought about it before, and then when they come to play, Harry, they're all at sixes and sevens. Oh, I'll try anything to beat him. Good. I wish you well. Anything at all, but it's not working at the moment. Thank you very much for Harry's halftime report, only here on BH. Buckingham Palace will no longer act as home to the King and Queen, but will remain at the centre of state occasions. It's been the heartbeat of all our lives on the big days, so by way of celebration, here are some of them. We stood outside and shouted, We want the King! We were successful in seeing my parents on the balcony, having cheated slightly because we sent a message into the house to say we were waiting outside.

32:23I think it was one of the most memorable nights of my life. The crowd surged forward in a spontaneous gesture of affection. Then, to delight the thousands who waited below, the Queen and her family stepped onto the palace balcony. So ended a proud day, one rich in memories for all the peoples of the Commonwealth. Joyfully, we proclaimed her Elizabeth, our crowned Queen. It was only a matter of time before the Beatles made it. So came the summoners to the palace. And here they come. 25 aircraft, Vulcan bomber, two buccaneers, then a Vulcan and four jaguars. Members of the royal family come out from Buckingham Palace not to follow the procession, but simply to see it pass.

33:13Another departure from any known protocol, call another sign that they wish to be seen to be taking part in the nation's mourning.

33:23Patrick Maguire:The doors open and the new husband and wife emerge onto the balcony. And you can begin to probably hear the chanting from some elements of the crowd who know that there is one moment that they particularly want to witness. And they just have...

34:11Godfrey Talbot, recalling her personal memories of slipping through the palace gates to mingle with the VE Day crowds. Listeners are sending temperatures from around the land. Glasgow says Jane is sunny and 16. It's never too hot here. Mark's in County Durham, where it's 19. He describes the change in the weather as disappointing. In Ashby de la Zouche, it's 20 degrees, says Karen, quoting Shakespeare, for this relief. Much thanks. Morning, says Sue, in Manchester, We're spending the weekend here. My phone tells me it's 21. It's 19 in Chippenham, says Anna. Blissful is my word for the relief I'm feeling today.

34:51Gillian's in Luton. It's 22. The roses are fading and the lettuces haven't come into their own. Sian says it's 20 in Steeple Ashton. It's 19 in Farnham. Jacqueline in Hellsworth in Suffolk, where it's 32. And Chris is in Dis, where it's 23 with a flurry of white crowds. Not crowds. They're clouds. he can't see. They're calling time tonight on one of London's longest-running pub sing-alongs. The landlord of the Duke of Kendal near Hyde Park is Ali Barzin. He's moving on. He told me of the joy he felt by offering sing-alongs and did it offer comfort as he leaves. Oh, it does. It does. You see it tonight.

35:30They sing, they dance, they do everything. And bring the happiness to them. Yes, I'll enjoy that.

35:57I've been here 26 years and it's just the most wonderful pub to come to and it's such fun on a Sunday evening this pub is the community and like so many pubs, I mean we're talking about hundreds of pubs closing and restaurants closing across the country which will just decimate communities. It just is the centre of everything we do here and it's closing and it's so sad. This is very much as a true pub should be, everyone's front room. It's anyone from wherever you're from. The local vicar drinks here. A mix of people from all walks alive. I spent New Year's Eve here on my own and coming, and I mixed with everybody because it was a local community pub.

36:45A bit like the Vic. I'm an EastEnders fan. You see all your neighbours. That is the nicest part of it. Does the singing bring more people?

36:58I don't think so.

37:05And oh, that flowery feeling Just in the hopes of how you are near Now, I remember this from My Fair Lady, which, of course, was set in London. And we know that listening out there, outside of the capital, sing-alongs will be happening all over the country. And this is not about London. This is about singing, about pubs, about joining together. Happy year of the street where you live

37:55With good luck there, the last sing-along after years is tonight at the Duke of Kendal, and we're running an occasional series celebrating the great British pub, and we're very pleased to be able to bring that to you. Now, let's turn to the news. It's quarter to ten. We have three remarkable reviewers. DJ Fat Tony is the Sunday Times best-selling author who rose to fame as a club DJ in Ibiza. He's played for everyone, and his new book is Recover Me. Tony, you're not fat at all. I've been fat for years. It was a name given to me by all my friends when I was a child because I was a fat kid. It seems very mean.

38:34But Recover Me tells me everything I need to know. You've been, like everyone in your business, you've been on a journey. Yeah, I'm 20 years sober in January, God willing. And for me, the last five have been a change, a dramatic change within recovery because I found out who I am. Congratulations. Thank you. And thank you for coming to share who you are with us. Lucy Cavendish, this is her business. She's a certified coach and therapist, an award-winning podcaster. Her latest is How to Have Extraordinary Relationships. Lucy, how do we have extraordinary relationships?

39:08Patrick Maguire:Tolerance, understanding, gratitude, kindness, forgiveness and basically being an amazingly wonderful human being, which is what I try and help people get. But what if I'm human and I feel a bit grumpy and ungrateful on a Monday? Oh, that's fine. You just have to say I'm feeling... You have to own it. Yeah, I say to my kids, I say, listen, I'm grumpy. but it's not about you, it's about me, so don't worry about it. That's what you do. Patrick Maguire is still here, chief political commentator for The Times. He's a co-author of Left Out, which was the history of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party, and Get In, the Sunday Times best-selling account of Sir Keir Starmer's rise to power.

39:45Patrick, you're still with us. I certainly am, Paddy. Do you like a pub sing-along?

39:51Patrick Maguire:I do. I do, but usually I sit in the pub by myself on the corner, in the corner with a book or scrolling through my phone. That's the best way to enjoy a pub these days. OK, lovely. Lucy, we're going to begin with you. The Sunday Times front page. Ockenden, midwives are not learning to care safely. Train them as nurses. Yes, there's been so much about this because Baroness Amos has done a big report about actually the shocking lack of care in our maternity system. And I have experience with that. I'm not going to go into that legally, but there are about people, women that are going in, they're not being listened to, they're pregnant, they're losing their babies.

40:29Patrick Maguire:Again, I don't like the word lost because that's implying that somehow it's their fault. They're not being listened to. And what the midwives are also saying is that they're not getting the training that they need in order to actually be effective midwives. And when I had three of my four children, I actually had them at home and Theo Walcott's mother was my midwife, Theo Walcott, the footballer. She then had to stop being a midwife because of the insurance things. They weren't allowed to carry on being private midwives and actually helping women have home births. It's actually shocking. And so many women have come forwards to talk about their experience of losing babies, of themselves getting very ill, and it needs to be addressed.

41:11So you're drawing our attention to Donna Ockenden, who last week published a critical report into poor care at the Nottingham University Hospital's NHS Trust. The health secretary is committed to publishing an action plan by December, but Ockenden warned that the danger was imminent. And something here about older mothers that as mothers have become older, heavier and sicker they have more complex needs and midwifery training has not adapted. So this is the second week in a row that this has been highlighted by our reviewers. It's the front page of the Sunday Times midwifery in the United Kingdom.

41:43I should tell you that the Royal College of Midwives said midwifery was a distinct and highly skilled profession and there was no evidence that returning to nurse training would lead to better care. But please read more as you wish in all the papers. To you, DJ Fat Tony, Zoe gave me my wake up moment. This is the Sunday Mirror. This is linked to the upcoming Desert Island Discs. Battle to stop drinking was the toughest time for Fatboy Slim. Yeah, I mean, listen, within our profession, it's rife. And I think that the more sober DJs come forward and tell the world how they got sober and how they stay sober is a really important thing.

42:21because we lead by example. And this is the story about how he was helped by his then wife, Zoe Ball. So is the clue from your own life and what we're reading in the Sunday Mirror, be honest, seek help? What is the clue? A hundred percent. Listen, honesty is the real key. The minute that you actually open your mouth is the minute you can be fed. And the most powerful thing you'll ever say is, I need help.

42:46Patrick Maguire:Yeah, that is the most powerful thing you say, but it takes an awful lot to do that Because a lot of us are in denial. You know, we want to live in denial because getting help is difficult. And then you've got to do the huge process of healing and getting better. Well, there's so much shame attached to it. And, you know, it's the shame side of it that will keep us quiet. People, when we're in that, we're blinkered to actually our own destruction. So the moment that you get to that point, there will always be like on a Monday or a Tuesday, oh, I'm never doing this again. On a Wednesday, you're back out the door.

43:19Patrick Maguire:You're back out the door. and you probably think, how am I going to do this job unless I'm a little bit crazy? You know that. Especially, you know, it becomes a learnt behaviour standing on that stage straight away. I still gurn when I DJ and I haven't had a drink or a drug for 20 years. But my neuropaths are so trained as to doing the actions that I do to DJ, my jaw will swing. Right, so you were showing me the action of a DJ's hand on a record. Yeah. So you were pushing your hand backwards and forwards on the desk and you were moving your jaw which is that's associated with drug taking movement.

43:51Yes, it is. And so you don't take drugs, but you now move your jaw. Yeah, I still do. And people still, like, I still get people commenting and saying, oh, you're still using it. It's like, no, it's 20 years ago. Okay. So it's an insight into addiction. It's an insight into recovery. Yeah. And you're bringing attention to the mirror, Sunday Mirror, which is talking about what's coming up. Yeah, it's in quite a few of the papers today. Yes, it is. It certainly is. And it's on Desert Island Discs in 10 minutes with Lauren. Now, Patrick, The Observer, page six, David Miliband tipped for Westminster return in a Burnham cabinet.

44:24Patrick Maguire:Yeah, he is, I'd say, New Labour's equivalent of Fatboy Slim. You know, ubiquitous for a period. Nobody knows what he's quite been up to recently. But actually, every time I've been on my social media feeds, which the algorithm serves me exclusively very boring Labour Party content, David Miliband has been absolutely everywhere the past week talking about how the UK is his homeland, how he's always actually quite liked Andy Burnham, who he knows very well. And Rachel Sylvester in The Observer has a very, very interesting report noting that David Miliband's old mate from the demonised football team, James Pennell, is about to run Andy Burnham's number 10 and that he could end up not just as plain old David Miliband, but Lord Miliband, the new foreign secretary.

45:08Now, that happened to David Cameron. What would it mean for Ed Miliband's chances the brother of being Chancellor. And I know you've picked the Sunday Times, which has headlined the second coming for Ed Miliband. Well, there is no reason that you couldn't have both Milibands.

45:25Patrick Maguire:Of course, Gordon Brown did, but not in great offices of state. Ed Miliband was a mere babe back then, Ed Miliband. The bigger difficulty, I think, for Andy Burnham would be, even if he wanted to appoint those two brothers, whom he knows both very well, The big question would be, well, where are the women in your top team, Andy Burnham? Especially given a woman hasn't run for the leadership this time. Where is the woman? We're just assuming Andy Burnham's going to do this then. There's no questioning of that, is there? I know. Suddenly it's like he's... He's already Prime Minister. He hasn't been voted in yet.

45:59Yeah, that's what we're running with.

46:01Patrick Maguire:But we like a bit of brother trauma, you know. Well, that's coming up, apparently, if you believe all the press today. Patrick's giving us the tips there from The Observer and The Sunday Times. You're listening to the News Review with Patrick Maguire, Lucy Cavendish and DJ Fat Tony, where we go next. The Sunday Times. I heard my husband cry for help from the rubble. I still have hope. Yeah, I mean, it's this whole Venezuela thing. It's just so sad. I mean, literally the smallest headline on the front of the Sunday Times. We've gone into like a world where the big things don't matter anymore and all the small things do.

46:37We're more interested in people's weddings or more interested in stuff. There were days when we used to have appeals for things like this.

46:44Patrick Maguire:Yes, do milk bottle tops. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying we need an appeal for every disaster, but, you know, they're saying 1 ,430 now confirmed dead, but there's over 60 ,000 missing. I mean, surely. It's a tragic story, but I think we've become inured to it because also lots of people do, you know, go fund me for all sorts of things like nose jobs. So when something big like this happens, it's almost like people's attention has completely gone in scattered directions. There's a great generosity among the British public, and it does come out, for instance, we hear about this on the Radio 4 Appeal a lot.

47:19But I wonder, can I ask you to talk to us about the news cycle? I wonder if things are moving so fast in our news. Patrick, do you find as a professional in the business that it's just unprecedented in your life, the amount of things happening in a short space of time all delivered on my phone?

47:35Patrick Maguire:well yeah indeed and there are any number of stories that you think god five ten years ago even you know even two or three years ago that would have been massive that would have dominated the year and now they struggle to dominate the day you know remember this year began with donald trump invading venezuela and kidnapping the kidnapping the president of venezuela it's barely happened you know something is always coming along to replace the last story we barely talk about the war in Iran anymore, it feels like. We live in that three-second world, don't we? We live in that let's flick left and move on very quickly and then we don't have to deal with it.

48:10That's been in the mix about why we want to change the Prime Minister all the time. There's a lot going on. OK, thank you very, very much for raising that for us, Tony. We now come back to Lucy. Dogs in the office from The Observer magazine.

48:22Patrick Maguire:Ah, well, this is controversial because Tony and I, sorry, Patrick, I haven't met yet. We love dogs. What does the paper say? The paper is talking about the whole rise of dogs coming into the office from kind of COVID when everyone got very bored and went out and got a dog and then they had to go back to work. What do they do with their dog? You can't leave it at home. So they've gone into the office and people have come anonymously saying things like, I don't like it. I'm allergic to dogs. They keep doing their business all over the place. One dog died in the revolving doors going into town, there it says.

48:54Patrick Maguire:And so all sorts of stuff has been going on. And it's a whole piece of the whole debate around. Have we gone a bit mad about dogs? Should they be allowed to do this? What's your answer? Because we did a feature on dogs in pubs, which we then had to balance with cats in pubs. I warn you. Cats don't like pubs. Well, Patrick and then you, Tony, where do you stand on dogs in the office? If they're small, you can't bring a Doberman or a Great Dane or a German Shepherd into the office. A little Dachshund. Andy Burnham's, I think, got a little pitch on freeze called Axel. So maybe he'll bring him to PMQs.

49:27Patrick Maguire:I can see it. Listen, I'm a big activist for dogs. I think that it's no one's business. I think all dogs are actually working dogs, in my eyes. And I think that we should take them everywhere. It's good to know where you stand and where the dogs should be. Supermarket fridges, Tony, from the Sunday Telegraph. There's a whole story in the Telegraph regarding how old supermarkets have been shutting down their fridge aisles. Because of the heat. And so you can't get ice cream or milk or anything else like that in most supermarkets. Or if you do go into a supermarket, the floors are flooded. But why are we living still?

50:03We know what the heat is like in this country right now. Yeah, we do.

50:06Patrick Maguire:I went in the supermarket, couldn't get any ice, couldn't get any ice cream. Everything is shut. What on earth is going on? It's because they're old, they need updating. And it's not that supermarkets don't make money. Patrick, will the heat become policy soon? Well, I mean, I hope there's a policy to stop it sooner enough. No, but what it will do is reignite this debate. And the Labour Party likes this area of policy about Britain's net zero commitments. And, you know, we were talking about Ed Miliband earlier. You know, he is the owner of that agenda. You know, does his argument now pack a little bit more punch?

50:41Patrick Maguire:There's been lots of questions about it in the Labour Party. But, you know, it's a good time if you're Ed Miliband to be making that pitch, I think, given what's happening all around us. And are you glad that the heat is breaking, all of you? No, I love the heat. I love the heat. Yeah, we're both signed up. Literally, that's what I travel for. That's what we all go on holiday for. Yes, to get the heat. OK, I'll moan no more. But what I will do is say thanks very much, Tony. Thank you for coming. You're welcome. And Lucy Cavendish. Thank you so much. And Patrick, you were double trouble for us today.

51:09Thank you so much. A pleasure. Today's producers were Harvey Stevens and Rose Nuge, with studio direction of the most remarkable quality from Jancis Haycox. The editor was Louisa Service. We'll leave you today with a last burst from the Duke of Kendall with our best wishes to those who will be singing there for perhaps the last time tonight. Hey, sirat, sirat, whatever will be, will be The future's not ours to see

51:53When you hear the phrase made in China, what do you think? I'm Tristan Redman. And I'm Asma Khalid. And together we host the Global Story Podcast from the BBC. And today on our show, we look at the origins and evolution of made in China, because it actually wasn't inevitable. What we're talking about is the world's largest communist nation is at the beating heart of the capitalist system. For more, listen to The Global Story on bbc.com or wherever you get your podcasts.