Alphabet And Tesla Report… And Tariff News Causing Global Market Moves 7/23/25

23 Jul 2025 · 44 min

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Episode Title

Alphabet And Tesla Report… And Tariff News Causing Global Market Moves

Air Date

July 23, 2025

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Podcast Overview Hosted by Melissa Lee, "Fast Money" features top traders discussing the most significant news impacting investors. This episode focuses on earnings reports from major tech companies and trade developments.

Episode Summary

  • Earnings Reports: Alphabet and Tesla reported their earnings, marking the start of earnings season for the MAG-7 tech companies.
  • Market Movements: The S&P and Nasdaq reached new record highs, driven by optimism surrounding trade agreements, specifically a tariff deal with Japan.
  • Company Highlights:
  • Alphabet: Strong performance across search, cloud, and YouTube.
  • Tesla: Missed expectations for revenue and earnings, leading to concerns over declining sales.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Earnings Highlights

  • Alphabet:
  • Positive after-hours trading; shares up 1% after an initial drop.
  • Earnings beat expectations with significant revenue growth:
  • Search revenue: up 12%
  • YouTube ad revenue: nearly reaching $10 billion
  • Cloud revenue: a remarkable 32% increase year-over-year
  • AI features driving more search activity, indicating its importance in Alphabet's business model.
  • Capital expenditures projected to reach $85 billion for 2025 to build data centers.
  • Tesla:
  • Reported earnings of $0.40 per share vs. the expected $0.43.
  • Revenue missed expectations at $22.5 billion.
  • Major drop in free cash flow (down 89.1% year-over-year) and automotive revenue (down 16.2%).
  • Concerns over declining vehicle deliveries and the impact of cyber cab production timeline.

2. Analysts' Reactions

  • Mixed sentiments on Alphabet's future:
  • Some analysts believe that the search business is still at risk due to AI competition.
  • Others argue that the growth in search and strong cloud performance may indicate a positive trajectory for Google’s stock.
  • Tesla's situation viewed with skepticism:
  • Analysts highlight that declining automotive revenue and significant cash flow reductions indicate deeper issues.
  • Optimists note the potential future of their autonomous driving initiatives, but many remain cautious given the current performance.

3. Trade News Impacting Markets

  • Japan-U.S. Trade Agreement:
  • Japan agreed to a $550 billion investment in the U.S., in exchange for a 15% tariff on exports to the U.S. (down from a proposed 25%).
  • This deal is viewed positively by the markets, with the Nikkei seeing considerable gains.
  • Analysts speculate that similar agreements with the EU may follow, generating further positive market momentum.

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Key Takeaways

  • Alphabet's Resilience: Despite threats from AI competitors, Alphabet reported robust growth, particularly in cloud services. The market reaction reflects optimism about its potential to navigate the changing landscape.
  • Tesla's Challenges: Tesla faces significant hurdles as sales decline and production timelines extend. The market appears to be more focused on future potential rather than current performance.
  • Global Market Sentiment: The trade deal with Japan signifies a potential easing of trade tensions, positively impacting market conditions and investor sentiment.

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Additional Company Earnings Covered

  • Chipotle: Reported disappointing same-store sales, leading to a downward revision of its sales forecast.
  • IBM: Beaten expectations but faced pressure due to slowing growth rates in software.
  • Las Vegas Sands: Showed strong performance in Singapore, indicating a recovery in tourism and gaming.

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Final Thoughts The episode encapsulates the dynamic interplay between earnings reports, market sentiment, and global trade developments. Investors are advised to keep a close watch on the evolving narratives surrounding Alphabet and Tesla, as well as the implications of international trade agreements on market movements.

For more insights and updates, visit [Fast Money](http://fastmoney.cnbc.com).

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0:03Live from the Nasdaq market site in the heart of New York City's Times Square. This is fast money. Here's what's on tap tonight. A monster night of earnings from big tech to EVs to a burrito bummer. We are diving into the numbers from all of tonight's reports, bringing you all the trades, plus a deal done. The S &P and Nasdaq closing in, new records, and Japan's Nikkei soaring after the two countries reached a trade agreement. The details on the deal and what more is to come. And an electrified gain. Shares of GE Vernova surging 14 percent on the back of its earnings this morning. Is this just another sign that the AI trade is alive and well?

0:35We'll get some answers. I'm Melissa Lee. Come to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ. On the desk tonight, Steve Grasso, Bono and Eisen, Dan Nathan, and Guy Adami. And we start off with the kickoff of big earnings, big tech earnings. Alphabet, Tesla, and IBM reporting results within the last hour, along with a slew of other names. We've got full team coverage from coast to coast. Christina Parsinev is watching IBM. Kate Rogers is all over Chipotle. Contessa Brewer digging in on Las Vegas Sands. Phil LeBose got Tesla's numbers. We start off with Mackenzie Cigalos, who's watching Alphabet shares now positive, up a percent.

1:06after an early drop. Mac, what's the latest? Hey, Melissa, Alphabet shares moving higher in the after hours after that initial drop, despite a top and bottom line beat and strong results across search, cloud and YouTube. We saw search grow 12 percent, YouTube 13 percent, and cloud surged 32 percent, which was well above expectations. Now, search remains Google's core business, but it's also most exposed in this new AI paradigm. CEO Sundar Pichai just said on the call that AI features are actually driving more search activity. Now, cloud, which is a key test of Google's massive infrastructure bet, also delivered CapEx, is being raised to$85 billion for 2025 to build data centers to power Gemini and enterprise tools as it tries to close the gap with AWS and Azure.

1:56And then YouTube ad revenue nearly hit$10 billion, just now$1 billion behind Netflix. And Pichai also highlighting strong subscription growth, with shorts now matching or even exceeding in-stream ads and revenue per watch in some countries. Back to you, Melissa. All right, Mackenzie, thank you. Keep us posted. Mackenzie Sigalos on Alphabet. As we were coming off of a massive winning streak, it was 10 straight days until today, Guy. So the setup wasn't good, but here we are at 1%. You're a fan of the Mark Twain, I'm sure. I mean, you went I went to school, a fine school at Harvard. Uncle Barry.

2:32The reports of my death greatly exaggerated. And that's probably, in this quarter, at least for Google, I think that's what he's seeing. And we knew YouTube was going to be good. I think we knew probably AI was going to be good. CapEx was probably baked in a little bit. But the fact that search was up 11.7 percent, the street was looking for 8 percent, that's going to give us some runway here. And now people will say, you know what, maybe the valuation is cheap. and maybe the reports or the rumors or the talk about the death of search, at least for now, is greatly exaggerated. You get a close above sort of 196-ish, 195, and that head and shoulders formation is thrown out the window.

3:08Yeah, just say the search thing, and this is the one where you have the overlays. It's probably one of the first real quarters or full quarters where you saw these AI overlays. And so, again, that must be helping in some way, shape, or form. You know, the issue wasn't cloud and it wasn't YouTube. It was going to be what is the degradation to the search? Are they going to cannibalize themselves? So pretty good. I mean, the cloud stuff is better than expected, 32 % year over year. It's something that reaccelerated. And that was one of the reasons why I think the stock got going a quarter or so ago.

3:36And I'll just go back to what Guy said. I mean, this is one of the only MAG7 that's trading below a market multiple. When you think about it, it's trading below, you know, where a lot of its peers are also. But the one thing is, and I think at some point, folks are going to say, what does this remedy look like by the DOJ, by the FTC, whatever is going on over there? And, you know, you can make the argument that maybe this is better if they were forced to split up. I don't think that's going to happen. I think the whole thing works better as a whole. But that's the next piece of the puzzle. And then folks are going to continue to worry about what does it look like when you have perplexity to launch a browser, when you have OpenAI launch a browser.

4:12I mean, they have, I think, 80 percent of the global browser. And I think a lot of that search revenue comes through that. Yeah, that forward P is just about 20 here. And there's no answer on the earnings call in terms of questions that could answer your question about existential threat, which is what you think. I mean, I do think I still think there's an existential threat. And even though search is up and Gemini has helped search, you don't get the clicks when you when you go through an A.I. search. You're not getting the clicks that you would normally get when you go through a Google search.

4:42So when you go on a perplexity search, for me, I just see the summaries. If you see the summary with Google, are you clicking on anything? And how does that affect revenue going forward? That's something I'm concerned with. I wouldn't be a buyer of Google. All right. I mean, I think they'll find a way to address that, frankly. You know, we've heard in previous quarters, and it was just reiterated here, that AI has led to more search. I think the next step before we get the massive rollout is that they're going to find a way to actually integrate more ad views, dollars, engagement via AI. I'd be shocked if that's not at the forefront of their minds.

5:20Add in the fact that they've, you know, essentially reassured us on CapEx. You essentially get the autonomous for free. I think there was a lot of worry about this stock. Rightfully so. I mean, I'm with Steve in terms of it is an existential threat. really, the really fact of the matter is whether or not it's a credible threat. And like today, it seems like it's not. People are going to in this environment, the market that we find ourselves in where you can make a great case on valuation. We've had that conversation now for the last week and a half. This gives the stock a pass, I think, for the foreseeable future.

5:50And all those things are correct. Like, I'm not convinced they're out of the woods yet either. But the market's going to buy first, ask questions later. Yeah, I'm not so sure, though, like when we hear reassured capbacks, that that's such a good thing. They've gone up to like$85 billion. If you think about it, Microsoft is basically taking down CapEx as a percentage of their revenue right now. If you think about this, you know, Google is expected to have$330 billion in revenue this year. They just talked about an$85 billion number. At some point, you know, you're going to have Microsoft and these guys who are early in some of these investments really start to flex a little bit.

6:20And it could be this sort of thing. And I'd love to get I know Gene's coming on in a little bit. I just think there's a really important metric. And I think it's going to flip at some point between some of those who are trying to play catch up, who are still spending on this infrastructure bill to some degree. And if they're really playing from behind, you know, like Google is right here, it might turn into a negative sort of thing. The more they have to spend to kind of stick around in this game. It's like, you know, they're pretty much a distant number three behind Azure and AWS. I'd actually like to hear on the big, beautiful bill, the way Verizon carved out how much they saved.

6:52Somebody like a Google, that must be a ton of money that they get with the new tax policy. I would like to hear that because that would give me a little bit more of a tailwind in some of these companies. I think the CEO should be breaking those out. Let's move on to Tesla. Keep you posted on the Alphabet call. Tesla missing top and bottom line estimates. Solid second straight quarter of sales decline. CNBC's Phil Abbott's got details ahead of the conference call. Stock's flat right now. Phil? Melissa, there's very little when you look just at the earnings report. There's very little that you look at and you say, hey, this is pretty good, pretty optimistic.

7:26They missed on the top and the bottom line, earning 40 cents a share. The street was expecting 43 cents a share. Revenue coming in light of expectations at 22.5 billion. And then the numbers within the numbers. Listen to this. Free cash flow year over year down 89.1 percent. Automotive revenue down 16.2 percent. Energy storage revenue down 7.5%. We've already talked about what's happened with deliveries in the first half of this year. Down 13.2%. By the way, the street's expecting deliveries to come in at 1.66 million vehicles this year. We'll see if they give us some guidance on the conference call.

8:02And if they do, if it's going to be another year of declines. Last year was a decline. Same with where they're tracking this year. One last note, cyber cab production. The target still remains for mass production in 2026, Melissa. That's about all you get from the actual earnings report from Tesla. Again, the call starts, what, 20, 25 minutes. We'll be on it, let you know if Elon has anything to say that perhaps moves the market or gives people some optimism if they're a Tesla shareholder. Yep. Phil, thank you. Phil LeBeau. From the earnings deck, they also say that they will launch the launch of the vehicles that were scheduled to launch in 25, still on track, including production of the low-cost vehicle, which could start happening in the first half, which you would think would be very positive because Tesla bulls are really looking for that.

8:49They are. I really just don't think the automotive numbers really matter, to quote Dan, a whole heck of a lot. We've just seen declining numbers quarter over quarter, now year over year. And you continue to see the stock kind of basing. You know, clearly we're up from the lows and, you know, we've rallied from that April level. But I just think that people literally, as you think about XAI, and now they're talking about whether or not there's going to be co-investment across these various companies, it just seems like the narrative really is being pushed towards AI, physical AI, autonomous and robotics.

9:22And until that story breaks, I think that's really the risk factor that you have with a company. The automotive numbers to me seem to be kind of secondary tertiary at best. When you look at the last quarter, they had record energy profits and they had Powerwall deployments and they had the supercharging network. that was rolling out. So that took away or mitigated whatever low deliveries that they had in the automotive section. When Phil started off his summary, those numbers are down. So it's very hard. I know it's up after hours. Very hard to be positive about it when everything is down. They're all putting their eggs in one basket.

9:56It's RoboTaxi. This was just an auto company. This quarter, the stocks, given where it is, should be down 15 or 20 percent. And that's not an exaggeration because free cash flow numbers were a disaster. their margins continue to go the wrong way. In terms of the auto business alone, it's a melting ice cube. Without question, there's no way to say otherwise when you look at these numbers. What people are betting on, though, is this is a loss leader and it's everything else. And they continue to get a pass on that. But at some point, they have to sort of deliver on both the robo-taxi, autonomous driving, all the other things, all their other aspirations, because the longer it goes, the worse this looks.

10:32Yeah, the EV business has to kind of fund some of these aspirations, right? So you're seeing this business. It really is very bad. And we've been talking about this. I mean, we don't even have to say the term hilariously bad. I think we've been saying that quarter after quarter for well, some of us have been. My fellow panelists might have been too over the last few quarters here. But we think about this. I mean, OK, it's the future is a twenty five thousand dollar car. Who knows if we get there? But this quarter, Q3 is going to be really important. We know those federal tax credits go away on September 30th.

10:58Let's see what sort of demand they pull forward for Q4. Let's see if there is demand for it. I think North America feels pretty saturated when it comes to EVs. We know that some of these hybrids are doing better from some of these companies in Detroit. So at the end of the day, I think Elon, you know, he has a choice to make. He has to go all in. I know he has on this robo taxi and, you know, the optimist and all this sort of stuff. And they're going to buy XAI. They're going to buy that thing. They're going to merge it all together. I know a lot of folks say they're not going to, but he's going to have to kind of continue to tell a different story than the EV story because The ZV story is done.

11:34I mean, the notion that they're going to reaccelerate this in a meaningful fashion, and you think about what's going on with China and BYD and Huawei and all these makers over there, there's really not even an awesome opportunity for them in Europe as there's more demand in these other parts of the country or other parts of the world. So it's just a tough story. I don't find it particularly investable until you get some sort of benchmarks on this robo-tax, you know, the cyber cab, and when they're going to really go into full production. Because I think we've all learned over the last 10, 15 years, You've got to take the over on when he says they're going to be able to do something.

12:03And listen, I think we can all agree. Cyber taxi, robo taxi, it's going to be great. It's going to be a great business. I just don't think it's going to be a great business in that couple of years. And what I think it keeps the story alive is that he is, along with BYD, the only profitable EV company that's out there. So if you look at the host of all the just specific EV companies alone, standalones, they are the only other profitable company. So that keeps the story going. But to Dan's point, there's a lot of things that have to really work their way through. What keeps people in the stock is that he can have a headline tomorrow that kills shorts.

12:37So that's what you always have to watch out with Tesla on the short side. All right. Let's get more on these earnings moves. Bring in Gene Munster, managing partner at Deepwater Asset Management. Gene, great to see you. Let's kick it off with Alphabet, which is pretty much at after-hour session highs, up about 3 percent here. What happens? What's happening on the call? Well, the call's been all about AI, and this would have been the quarter we would have seen a crack in that search. Keep in mind that the GPT users went from about 350 million dailies three months ago to 500 million. We've just seen this accelerating use of chat GPT, and that really kind of got the narrative going.

13:16I'm very much on board with this idea that search is under attack. And this would have been the quarter we would have seen a crack. And the crack would have been a fractional miss in the search business. Instead, what we saw was search growth actually accelerated. I mean, it was fractional, 11 %-ish versus 10 %-ish in the March quarter, year over year. And so that was a surprise. They also mentioned on the call that paid clicks were up 4 % year over year. And just a really shocking number. If we rewind back to the first part of May when Apple, any Q, was talking about this decline in search within Safari, it would be hard for me to have imagined that paid clicks are going to be up 4%.

13:55So when I put all this together, Melissa, somebody like myself who's been bearish over the last six months, I'm in the camp that this stock is probably going to move meaningfully higher over the next few days, 5%, 10 % higher, in part because we should have seen something this quarter given everything that's going on. And what the underscores is this, is Google is a habit. It is habitual for 3 billion people daily, 5 billion people monthly. I mean, it is really hard to change that behavior, even if those other products are so compelling like GPT. So does it put to rest that bear case about the existential threat to search, or does that still linger?

14:36You're going to wait for another data point or another data point. It's going to linger in part. So they gave the metrics around how much is the usage in AI mode. They're at 100 million monthly active users. So that compares to about 5 billion monthly active users for search. They haven't started the monetization. So on the call they're talking about starting to feather in some more monetization with AI mode. Undoubtedly they were doing that, but I was listening to Steve's comments. Steve, I was tracking what you were saying about the clicks and ultimately just adding monetization to AI mode doesn't necessarily mean that people are gonna click on that if they just get their answer.

15:12And so I think to answer your question, Melissa, is that there's going to be a relief rally in this. And it may go on for days. It may go on weeks. But this narrative around how does Google navigate AI isn't going to be solved until investors can actually see how they have integrated these sponsored opportunities within AI mode. Yeah. And Gene, you know, it sounds like the kind of formula for monetization for a lot of these models is going to kind of play out over the next couple of years. It's not going to be over the next couple of months or the next couple of quarters. Just curious, you know, you just mentioned that Eddie Q comment about search on Safari.

15:50This was a couple of months ago, I think. What would it mean for Google search in general if they lost that exclusivity on Safari? Obviously, we have an installed base of about one and a half or, I don't know, 1.8 billion users on iOS. Is that something you're starting to model in right now? And so what does it mean for Google if they lose that? Yeah. For Google. For Google. So they're paying about$20 billion a year for this. That means they're getting more than$20 billion from this. And so think of this as they probably are getting$30,$40 billion of kind of economic value from that arrangement from Apple.

16:23And so that's rarely talked about, like, how could Google negatively impact it? Because the general thinking is that if they get displaced, then people will just naturally come back because it's so habitual. But there would be a step down. It would be material. We're talking 15%, 20 % of kind of operating income hit. search 55 percent of revenue, 70 plus percent of earnings, it would be a material impact. Gene, I want to get your quick take on Tesla's quarter ahead of the call. We talked about earnings, earnings operating income down 42 percent year over year. It was bad. But the reason why the stock hangs in there, they have a chart in their investor deck.

16:59They don't give the exact numbers, but you can kind of eyeball it. They added about 1.2 billion miles driven by FST that compares to about 600 million in the March quarter. So basically doubled quarter over quarter in terms of those miles driven. That's all plays into the narrative about autonomy is the future. And when you're, when you show some of those data points, it's hard to, you can debate how much time investors are going to give them, but it feels like things are really moving that affordable model. They reiterated their timeframe on that, but no one really expected it to be on time. So that was a net positive.

17:33All right. Gene, thanks. We'll check in with you a little bit later on. Gene Munster, Deepwater Asset Management. Again, Tesla shares are hanging in there. They're about flat right now. Yeah, which probably makes some people trying to figure it out. I'll go back to Google real quick. I'm sort of with Gene on this one. 207, I think, ish, was the all-time high back in February. I mean, this quarter should take us there on this tape when people are looking for value plays that are seemingly making sense. You put into cash the fact that, again, ad is hanging in there. Google looks okay. Yeah, and I read one of Gene's points in terms of there likely being a relief rally, particularly as we have all of these indexes reaching all-time highs.

18:08And then you add in the fact that Alphabet has essentially lagged the other Magnificent Seven. I would expect a catch-up trade, and I like that a lot more than maybe stepping down into small caps looking for beta. Yeah, all right. This is probably going to be totally wrong here, but, you know, with Google... Unlike the other things you've said. Right. So, So, you know, and by the way, people, we're really good friends. I just want to be really clear about that. We've known each other for 15 years. We've been on the same pit now. That's why I say that. So with Google up a little bit here and Tesla flat, I think they're both implied moves about 6%.

18:38I could actually see Google selling off tomorrow and Tesla rallying a little bit. Because, listen, the Google quarter, it's good. You know, like Gene just laid it out. It was brilliant. But, like, there's not – I mean, was there enough there? You know what I mean? It's had a nice run into this. But Tesla, on the other hand, it seems to do this all the time. We knew the bad news was coming. The stuff that people are positive about, we just don't know. And that's the stuff that kind of is out there in the ether. And I can see, folks, this thing's been going sideways for a bit. I can see them going in and buying it on that.

19:06Also, the conference call, Elon Musk presumably will be on that call. And if he sounds really committed to Tesla and he's going to be the CEO who sleeps on the floor again, maybe investors will also be re-energized by that. He's got to sell that story. And to the point on Google, there's a reason why the stock did nothing the entire year and then ran up into earnings right now because there was a lot of things that were factored in. So I would be a seller of Tesla, of Google here. All right. Coming up, we'll bring you all the details from Tesla's and Alphabet's earnings calls. We'll get you the details on results from Chipotle, IBM, Las Vegas, Sands, and more.

19:40Plus, the market reaction to the latest trade deals, how to trade the moose here in the U.S. and abroad. Do not go anywhere. Fast Money is back in two.

19:55Welcome back to Fast Money. Chipotle shares sinking after hours after the burrito chain cut its same-store sales forecast as foot traffic slowed. CNBC's Kate Rogers spoke with the CEO in just the last hour. Kate. Melissa, that's right. EPS right in line for Chipotle this quarter. Revenue slightly below analyst estimates. Same-store sales came in lower than expected. They were down 4 percent. This is its second consecutive contraction for same-store sales, also the biggest since the second quarter of 2020. The company did report, though, a positive comparable sales return and transactions in June.

20:27But for the full year, as you said, it cut its guidance to about flat for full year comp sales down from low single digit growth. This is its second guidance cut in a row. Here's what CEO Scott Boltwright told us about the consumer in the quarter last hour. We saw a bit of a step down in the low income consumer in the April-May timeframe. We think that's in large part due to its really tough compares from prior year. But we've seen that rebound with our summer campaign. It did note inflation across several of its key ingredients, primarily steak and chicken, Melissa. And on the call, Boatwright and other executives talking about some things that they have planned as catalysts in the second half, including new limited-time offerings, whether they're center of the plate or sides, a campaign targeting college students, a big core demo for them, and also leaning even more into the catering business, which they said is just one to two percent of sales right now.

21:16And it could grow much more than that. Back over to you. Kate, how is their pricing? And what's what's sort of like the average check? I'm just wondering, because this is sort of a more expensive, right, quick serve option. Absolutely. And if you look at stock performance of the other more expensive for the consumer names like Sweetgreen and Kava, they are also underperforming. But Boatwright said on the call, you know, we think about value differently. And in most places in the country, you can get an entree here for about$10. So as you said, a little bit more expensive for the consumer, but the company doesn't discount in the way a lot of its fast food competitors do, right?

21:50So they're thinking about it differently. They feel this is good value proposition and said their sales trends kind of track along with consumer sentiment. So you saw it dip, you saw their sales dip, and they believe that things will get back to positive momentum in the back half of the year. I'd like to know where that$10 entree is. Not in New York or San Francisco, but yeah. Definitely not. Yeah. Kate, thank you. Kate Rogers. Thank you. All right. Not quite a blowout here. Our resident blowout expert. Well, they're good burrito blowouts. And it's like, are you a good witch or a bad witch? This is a bad burrito blowout.

22:23And it's bad because two consecutive quarters now have declines. That's not good. Margins declining. Not good. And that's a pretty significant decline. 18.2 percent versus 19.7. So now people are going to laser focus on valuation, which has always been unreasonable. 46-ish was the low back in April. That's where it needs to hold. I mean, what does this tell you about that consumer, that kind of consumer who goes to a Chipotle or a Sweetgreen or a Cava who are not going there anymore for whatever reason? Well, he obviously eats a lot of burritos. Just take a look at him. I eat a lot of salads, right?

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22:56So if you look at the Sweetgreen and you look at the Cava. Those words do hurt. I'm just saying, you know, those stocks have had a really hard time, right? And they're all competing in this kind of higher end zone. You know, and you look at McDonald's and McDonald's and we just heard what CEO had to say, this lower end consumer having a tough time. McDonald's has never confirmed the highs in the S &P 500. It really has kind of been stuck in the mud a little bit. And so maybe this is that perfect combination of where there's inflationary pressures from the companies, their inability to kind of pass through some of those costs.

23:26And then a weaker consumer starting to feel the heat a little bit. Yeah. And I think the average check size in New York is closer to$20. So it's double what the company says. easily double losing Brian nickel nickel is a big thing. If you look at Starbucks and you overlay the performance here, and I'm not crazy about Starbucks. Starbucks is up 5 % for the year. This one has done nothing but go lower. And there's a lot of things. Everything that is inflationary is on their menu. And I have a, if digital is not growing with them, have you been in a store where you're trying to order more than one thing?

23:59It's impossible. So I never order more than one thing. My kids do, but I don't. It's a very bad setup for you need too deep in people making these bulls because I don't want to clog up the line behind me. So it's a bad scenario for that. Bulls do that for you. Bulls. Clog up. The lines. Anyway. My goodness. Bono and your trade. Well, quite frankly, this was a growth story that you're just not seeing the growth in. And the multiple reflects it. The PEG multiple reflects it. You know, same source sales down 4%. Top line revenue up 3%. And most of that is coming from expansion. So you're essentially continuing to invest and you're not finding that kind of equilibrium where you actually have true, repetitive, organic growth.

24:43I think ultimately that's there. And without that growth, the multiple simply just doesn't justify investment at this moment. Can I just say one thing? You're a fan of Cher by any chance? Cher, sure. Everybody loves Cher. Never ages. Never ages. But she had a song and one of the lyrics was, words are like weapons. They hurt sometimes. And, you know, Dan, your words hurt sometimes. I'm getting it over here from Mel. You know what I mean? You need to pass it on. Yeah, I'm just going to keep moving along. Spread it along. Coming up, even more after hours, action shares of IBM, Las Vegas, SANS, Service Now, and more on the move after reporting the numbers of the quarters next.

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25:36Welcome back to Fast Money, another earnings alert. This one on IBM. Shares dropping in the after-hour session. Despite beating top and bottom line estimates, a conference call kicking off the top of the hour kicked off already. Christina Barsenebulis is here on set with more on the quarter. Christina. Yeah, they spent the first 20 minutes just going over all of their numbers, I guess, to reiterate, you know, that they beat on the top and bottom line. They raised their free cash flow, which is largely expected. I think going into this earnings report, you had so much. You had high expectations.

26:02The stock ran up over 23 percent versus the S &P 500 about 8 percent year to date. So there's really been an uptick. What do we see? We saw software grow, but it's growing at a decelerating rate. The company did say that Red Hat was up 14 percent year over year. So that is a strength within the software category. Consulting was up 3 percent. So they're starting to see some weakness over there. They said that customers are cautious when it comes to spending. We've heard this before and really focused on cost efficiencies. Infrastructure, which really encompasses all of the hardware. They just launched a Z17 mainframe, which helps with generative AI.

26:37I don't like using the nomenclature because it gets so confusing, right, especially with all the chips. All you need to know is it's a giant mainframe. It's going to help with Gen AI. They just launched it at the end of the quarter. They're saying that that really helped their infrastructure business. It should help it going forward. They also talked about their book of business, which isn't actually concrete dollars just yet, and how it's increasing for AI. So I think IBM is really focused on AI software, those two categories right now. But you have to think of all the other categories that are contributing to the business that are consulting.

27:08It's still 30 percent of the biz, still relatively flat right now. And there was a run up high expectations. Yeah. I mean, we're just off of the highs from the end of June, Guy. Software is the problem. Not that it's a problem. It's up 10 percent. The street was looking for more. They're going to sell first, ask questions later when you have that kind of valuation. But Steve talks about this, and I still believe in the IBM story. Technically, go back and look where it topped out at earlier, late last year, earlier this year. 268 went lower from there, traded back there and failed. Past resistance becomes support, and we are right there now.

27:41So I don't think you run that far from IBM here. Just take a look at the valuation. 25 times forward, so not cheap. This should have been the original AI company. This should be the quantum company. They've had such a lead on so many others in the space. The problem is, as Christina said, there's a lot more segments within their umbrella that actually drag the story down. But I still think there's a tremendous upside to IBM. People don't think of it as a growth story, but I think you should start thinking it like that. You said so many other portions of the business we just talked about, but then that's what makes IBM great, a defensive play.

28:17So wouldn't you think that that could be something in the near term, like still keep IBM in the back books because it's still a defensive play? because it's exposed to all these other segments of business. Yeah, for years, though, that didn't work. It's only worked as of late. This was my secular short when we did this 10 years ago, and I looked really great for a decade, and now it's actually rearing back up. And you're not looking great. It looks good. It looks good. It's a great diversified bet, but people are looking for real growthy things to stick their teeth into. Christina, thanks. Thanks.

28:46Christina Parts Nevelis. Coming up, the latest tariff details out of D.C. is the trade deadline inches closer. We know about Japan, the EU, and how it's impacting the markets. Do not go anywhere. Fast Money is back in two.

29:04Welcome back to Fast Money Stocks. Jumping on some trade optimism, the S &P and Nasdaq both closing at fresh record highs. The Dow surging more than 500 points, closing less than four points from the record close, set all the way back in December. Shares of Lam Westin jumping more than 16 % today, the biggest gainer in the S &P 500. The French fry maker beating top and bottom line estimates, giving better than expected guidance. Shares of CrowdStrike marking its eighth down day in the last 10 sessions. It has lost more than 10 percent from its intraday high earlier this month. Bank of America, meantime, raising its dividend by 8 percent to 28 cents a share and authorizing a 40 billion dollar stock repurchase program.

29:41And some more earnings movers. T-Mobile and ServiceNow higher after beating top and bottom line estimates. Molina Healthcare missing earnings estimates. Alaska aired down on weak guidance and CSX, topping EPS expectations, but missing on revenues. And you won't want to miss an exclusive interview with the CEO of CSX tomorrow, 10.30 a.m. Eastern Time on Squawk on the Street. Well, the iShares Japan ETF soaring almost 5 percent to all-time highs after President Trump announced a 15 percent reciprocal tariff on Tokyo last night. European stocks also getting a boost with reports signaling a trade agreement with the EU could be just days away.

30:16Let's get to Megan Pasella for the very latest. Megan. Hey, Mel. So that preliminary Japan deal is the first one that we've seen with a top five U.S. trading partner. So top line details here. Japan agreed to invest$550 billion in new capital in the U.S. And then in exchange, President Trump will impose tariffs of 15 percent on all Japanese exports to the U.S., including cars and car parts. And that was considered a big win in Japan, as it is a sizable step down from the 25 percent auto tariff that is already in effect and down from the 25 % across-the-board rate that Trump threatened for Japan just last week.

30:53But at the same time, it does suggest something of a new floor for these country-specific tariff rates. So take a look at this here. For the five preliminary agreements that we have details on so far, countries will still see a tariff rate of between 10 % and 20 % on all of their exports to the U.S., even after striking an agreement. And the latest reports out of Brussels today suggest the EU could be next in line and it could fall right in this range. EU officials are saying they're close to a deal with the U.S. that would involve 15 percent tariffs on all exports out of Brussels. Now, we talked with the White House about this, and an official told me that things are very fluid and that close is relative.

31:32So it's very possible, but it's a fast-moving situation here. And 15 percent, Mel, would still be significant, but markets do seem today to be breathing a sigh of relief. Melissa. All right. Megan, thank you. Megan Casella. Obviously, relief here. We saw the Nikkei rally. We saw yields go higher around the world, basically, on this. From the point of reference, if we go back to April and where we thought tariffs were going to be at and what they thought they were going to do, the overall market hasn't happened. So now all of these are wins. So we had the UK, you have the EU. EU is 27 different countries.

32:07That one, in my opinion, was the hardest or equally as hard as China. All of these are getting done, and you start to gain some momentum for the overall market. Yeah, Peter Buchbar, I believe the advisors, was on a couple of weeks ago. He did a little math. Some of us are not so good at math, but I'm going to try to do a little math like Peter did. Okay, so if we have$3.5 trillion of annual imports to this country, last year we had about a 2.5 % tariff on those imports, right? Corporate tax receipts in America are about$500 billion. If you put 15 % on that$3.5 trillion, you're basically doubling, okay, you're basically doubling, okay, what, 500 billion, 500 billion.

32:45Someone's going to eat that 500 billion, right? Like, if you think about it, so, you know, the markets, your point about April, I get it. You actually got in my face one day in early May. I did. I never get in your face. You kind of got in my grill, just like earlier. But my point was, you're like, we kind of know what the worst-case scenarios are. And you were 100 % correct on that. But here's a scenario that year over year, it looks very different, right? Like, somebody's got to eat that. The importers have to eat it. You know, somewhere in the supply chain and definitely going to work into consumers and the like.

33:12So I just think that that math is going to be really interesting to kind of think about because we didn't have a lot of tariffs. Now we're going to have a lot of tariffs, even if 15 doesn't seem like 25 percent. Wasn't that the math, though, when the markets pulled back in April? No, I mean, they had all those ridiculous numbers. No one knew what the math was going to be. Remember those ridiculous formulas? I think the only thing that we're leaving out, the market discovered that after that budget bill was done, the average per household is five thousand dollars lower in taxes. So it more than mitigates the tariff exposure.

33:41Corporations, 21 percent. And they also get full depreciation. So it mitigates a lot of these headwinds. By the way, that number about households, it's not it's not skewed towards middle class and like lower income earnings. It's really for higher earners. Right. So it's just an average across the citizenry. I want to talk about Japan politics, though, just briefly before we have some comments from Elon Musk on the call. I want to get to that. But in terms of connecting the dots, what this means, the prime minister who lost his majority in both houses, the first prime minister to have no majority in either house for since 1955, his grasp on power is now much less because this trade deal has been announced.

34:20He said he was going to hold on because he's got to get a trade deal through. If he's gone, his successor is more likely to opt for fiscal stimulus, which has a huge ripple effect. Huge ripple. I mean, go down that road for a second because they clearly have an inflation problem. Their 10-year yields, the highest JGBs, the highest they've been since 2008, 30-year, 45-year, all-time high, a currency that's going to start to weaken again against the backdrop of higher yields there. They can try. They can pull whatever levers they want. They have a problem. And this, what we're talking about now, does not mitigate that in any way.

34:52All right. We do want to get to those comments from Elon Musk on that Tesla call. Let's bring back Gene Munster, who's been listening in. Gene. I'm Melissa. The big one was right out of the gate. He talked about having half of the U.S. population having access to robo-taxi by the end of the year and then through the caveat on pending regulatory approval. He's had positive comments about this in the past. This is as aggressive, I think, as he's been in terms of the pace of the rollout. I think what you can read between the lines there is there's no way that that's going to happen because it's not going to get regulatory approval to get to those cities.

35:27But what do you think he's telling us is that we're probably going to see more cities. He talked about adding San Francisco by the end of the year. We're probably going to see more cities getting added. So that was one takeaway. Basically the first nine minutes of the conference call related to autonomy, FSD, robo-taxi. But then he shifted and talked about batteries and said that this is gigantic. Their energy business often gets overlooked. He's planting the flag, I think, to talk more about energy, and well, he should, that that's going well for them. All right. Gene, thanks for keeping us posted.

35:57Gene Munster, stock is flat right now. Coming up, even more after hours action. We're watching shares of Las Vegas Sands after their results. CEO Robert Goldstein will join us fresh off the company's earnings call. That is next. Fast Money is back in two. Thank you.

36:39Basically, they're riding this AI boom, the demand for power. They've sold out basically through 2028, Guy. It's pretty remarkable. Tim talks about it. He's not here. I'll talk on his behalf. I mean, if you look at the EPS growth, it's probably 60 percent-ish year-over-year EPS growth, which doesn't completely justify the valuation, but it makes it a tad more palatable. So I think you continue to sort of ride this train. I know it's sort of deep end of the pool stuff, but these trades, all these names in this world are working. Gas turbines specifically sold out through 2028 with more orders coming in for 2029.

37:12All right. Coming up, Las Vegas Sands surging after earnings. CEO joins us next with more in the quarter. More Fast Money in two.

37:25Welcome back to Fast Money. Shares of Las Vegas Sands jumping after the casino operator beat top and bottom line estimates. CNBC's Contessa Brewer joins us now with CEO Robert Goldstein fresh off the call to talk results. Melissa, thank you very much. And Rob, it's great to see you. I got to say, I was surprised on the call not to hear more superlatives about the amazing results in Singapore, because as far as I can do, I did some quick research. There has never been a hotel casino property anywhere in the world in any quarter that achieved what you did. $768 million. No, no, I just it's a big deal.

38:03You're absolutely correct. I've been doing this 40 years. No building anywhere. I just became close to these numbers. It's an incredible performance in an incredible market. We're very lucky to be there. Right place, right time, right market. But you're right. The numbers and the performance there, it's historic. OK, well, some of it was luck. And you said high hold to the tune of$100 million plus. That being said, when you're guiding to$2.5 billion in adjusted property EBITDA in a year, How do you keep fueling that? Well, obviously, you keep providing experiences people want to come to. The market in Singapore is extraordinary.

38:40We have a great building. So you keep doing the right things by your customers and keep hoping they show up. And I think we're doing that. And the momentum is with us. And the building is superb. So to your point, it is historic. It's unprecedented. And hopefully it continues. We believe it will. We're just in the right place, the right time. And we're very fortunate to be in Singapore with an extremely supportive government. And tourism there is booming for the super luxury customer. And we're showing right now some of the renditions you're pouring in and just back from a groundbreaking in Singapore because you're going to invest$8 billion in a new property in Singapore.

39:16So clearly you're expecting a return on that investment. In the meantime, in Macau, you were getting a lot of questions on the call because you said right at the top there's been a shift in strategy there. What was not working for Las Vegas Sands and Macau, and how are you changing things? Well, the market's gotten more competitive in Macau, and we may have been reliant on our buildings, which have always been best in class, best in market. We've shifted our strategy. We had to pivot away from that approach and add our buildings to a more competitive approach, which we think will fuel more EBITDA, more market share.

39:49We'll do fine in Macau in the future. We'll come back. We took too long to get there. We're there now in the right place as far as our competitive environment. And I think the future of Macau remains very bright. It's always in our premier market. You couple that with what we're doing in Singapore, we'll soon be exceeding our highest EBITDA creation even during the pre-COVID years. So it feels pretty good both in Singapore and Macau for the future. We have just started to see month over month the kind of gains investors have been hoping to see post-pandemic in Macau. How much do geopolitical concerns weigh on you there?

40:22If there's the tit-for-tat tariff war, if China and U.S. relationships are not solid and strong, is that something that affects the property? Well, obviously, we need a very strong China economy. We hope that these countries will resolve their differences. The tariff war will go away. But it doesn't help us because we need a strong China economy to prosper. But we are seeing, in spite of the geopolitical concerns, we are seeing a much stronger McHale, as you alluded to. And hopefully that continues in the future. A$30,$32 billion market, Macau, would make all the difference in the world to us and the competitive set.

40:58And I think you'll see that. Macau is just too powerful. It's the primary place to gamble for mainland Chinese and for most Asians in that region. So obviously, we want to see resolution of the geopolitical issues. And resolution is good for the whole world. Hopefully, that comes to be. And a strong China economy is very important to us, too, obviously. Well, Rob, the stock is up 5 % or so in the post market. Thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you as always. You're welcome. I know I'm coming off as being very excited about this, but I don't understand how they ask these questions and then they're so calm about it.

41:34Like, wow, that was a great performance in Singapore. You did really well. I was just like, wow, that's so amazing. There it is. Point it close to the vest, as they should. By the way, they should because it's been in an eight-year downtrend Real quick, the crack staff in EC can look. From$80 seven years ago, it's been a series of lower highs. But you know what? You get a close above current levels. You have broken that downtrend. Major double bottom. I'm with Contest on this one. I like the name. All right. Up next, final trades. Thanks, Contest.

42:07Time for the final trade. Stephen. Lucid. You know, I like outsized bets. And if you look at Lucid, go on Perplexity AI and say to Perplexity, list me the top 10 best bullish things about Lucid. You're going to buy the stock. Is that what you did? Is that how you got to this? No. No, I did it after. All right, follow it. Speaking of outsize, I thought the move in GM on the back of the Japan trade deal was really more geared towards their local manufacturers. I'm a better shot. Look, GM here. Dan. Yeah, IBM, you guys had some nice things to say about the quarter. I just wouldn't be a buyer here on that corner.

42:44I'm going to go to CMG later tonight and get a burrito. Yeah, hopefully that'll help Bernie. Extra chicken, no tomatoes. PSXes will get you done here. Thanks for watching Fast. Mad Money, Jim Cramer starts right now.

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