In short
Fast Money episode covers: Berkshire Hathaway’s major Alphabet equity buy and its housing-sector bet, plus market drivers (oil, rates), tech earnings and NVIDIA’s PC-chip move, a People/MGM casino deal, and biotech/crypto headlines.
Guests
Logan Motoshami (Lead Analyst, HousingWire) discusses housing cycle timing, consolidation, and rate sensitivity; Chris Harvey (Head of Equity & Portfolio Strategy, CIBC Capital Markets) compares today’s rally to 1999 and flags credit/IPO-market risks; Dr. Mackie Zongane (Co-CEO, Summit Therapeutics) explains Summit’s lung-cancer drug results and FDA path; Angelica Peoples (ASCO reporter) reports Revolution Medicines’ pancreatic cancer data.
Key claims
housing bottom is possible but depends on mortgage rates falling (need ~5–5.5%); consolidation will continue; market rally may last 12–18 months but credit/IPO trading quality matters; Revolution’s pill nearly doubled pancreatic survival; Summit’s PD-1/VEGF approach shows OS/PFS progress with FDA discussions; Strategy’s first Bitcoin sale in 3+ years signals potential crypto stance shift.
Notable examples
Taylor Morrison acquisition (~$7B); Alphabet $80B equity offering with Berkshire $10B; HPE guidance beat (EPS ~ $3.35–$3.45); NVIDIA entering PCs; People’s ~$48/share MGM bid; WTI spike on Iran/Hezbollah negotiation headlines.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBerkshire's Alphabet Investment
1:46 to 2:36
Analysis of Berkshire Hathaway's significant investment in Alphabet and its implications.
“Let's get to Mackenzie Stagallis with more.”
Market Reactions to Investments
2:36 to 3:46
Discussion on market reactions and interpretations concerning Berkshire's investment choices.
“You always want Berkshire to be a buyer.”
Berkshire's Housing Acquisition
3:46 to 5:45
Exploration of Berkshire's acquisition of Taylor Morrison homes amidst housing market challenges.
“I think, you know, Google going to the equity market or the debt market anytime in the last five years would have been seen as what's, you know, why do they need to do this?”
Implications for Housing Sector
5:45 to 8:03
Insights into what Berkshire's acquisition indicates about the housing market's future.
“I don't know if they're going to ring the bell when they say we're done spending on CapEx.”
Analysis of Housing Market Pressures
8:03 to 10:00
Discussion on the pressures facing homebuilders and mortgage rates affecting the housing market.
“Spending less than 2 percent against back to that number we're just kind of using.”
Future of Homebuilders and Market Conditions
10:00 to 12:18
Discussion on the outlook for homebuilders and the broader market conditions affecting them.
“But I think that was sort of interesting.”
Consumer Behavior and Housing Inventory
12:18 to 14:01
Exploration of consumer behavior regarding housing inventory and mortgage rates.
“Are you positive about this development?”
Mortgage Rates and Housing Inventory
14:01 to 15:38
Discussing the impact of mortgage rates on housing inventory and sales.
“You have to have a view on rates, I guess.”
Real Estate Market Trends
15:47 to 16:21
Exploring real estate price dynamics and regional trends, particularly related to data centers.
“This may be a little bit off topic, but I mean, if you're looking for hotter pockets, do areas around data centers benefit in terms of real estate prices?”
Oil Prices and Market Reactions
16:32 to 17:08
Analyzing the recent spikes in oil prices due to geopolitical negotiations and market reactions.
“Well, Logan, not cautious about what he's wearing.”
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Insights from Eamon Javers on Oil Negotiations
17:10 to 19:36
Eamon Javers provides an update on oil market negotiations and the political landscape.
“And there's been a lot of back and forth, Eamon.”
Market Implications of Energy Stocks
19:38 to 21:00
Discussing the implications of energy stock performance in light of current events and market conditions.
“I will say it just goes to show, and Karen and Tim and Steve have been talking about it, you've got to stay long these energy stocks.”
Market Implications of Energy Stocks
21:43 to 22:37
Discussing the implications of energy stock performance in light of current events and market conditions.
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Earnings Alert on HPE
22:48 to 24:35
Reporting on HPE's impressive earnings and market reaction to their financial performance.
“Look at those shares surging after the company topped earnings and revenue estimates.”
NVIDIA's Market Position and Strategies
24:37 to 27:49
Analyzing NVIDIA's market strategies and their recent stock performance.
“Meantime, we do want to talk about NVIDIA bouncing 6 percent today, adding 320 billion to its market cap, a gain of roughly the size of a Goldman Sachs.”
Market Rally and MGM Acquisition
28:00 to 28:31
Discussion on MGM's acquisition offer and implications for the market rally.
“the billionaire making a play for MGM, and whether the buy could mean a jackpot for the media mogul.”
Upcoming Market Trends and Casino Deals
29:26 to 29:56
Previewing future discussions on market trends and major casino deals.
“If you're a parent and want to help set up your child for success, then iXL is right for your family.”
MGM's Surge and Market Analysis
30:06 to 31:31
Analysis of MGM's stock surge and its implications on the casino industry.
“MGM Resorts surging 16 % today after Barry Diller's People offered to buy the casino giant for roughly$48 a share in cash, valuing the company at$18 billion.”
Market Dynamics and IPO Insights
31:31 to 35:50
Strategist Chris Harvey discusses current market trends and IPO dynamics.
“Stocks kicking off the week with more all-time highs.”
Biotech Breakthroughs and Market Reactions
35:50 to 42:00
Discussion on breakthroughs in biotech, specifically focusing on Revolution Medicines and Summit Therapeutics.
“Is that the right thing to look through the supply shock?”
FDA Drug Approval Insights
42:00 to 44:41
Learn about the ongoing drug trials and FDA communications concerning cancer treatments.
“communicate with the FDA based on the data that we had in China to bring the drug sooner in the hand of patients.”
Market Reactions and Analyst Concerns
44:41 to 45:28
Explore how analysts are reacting to the trial results and their implications for the stock market.
“And our thanks, of course, to the co-CEO of Summit Therapeutics.”
The Bitcoin Strategy Shift
45:28 to 45:42
Discuss the implications of Strategy's decision to sell Bitcoin and market responses.
“The Bitcoin reversal from strategy and what it means for the company's long-held crypto stance.”
Final Trades and Market Outlook
45:42 to 47:20
Hear final trade recommendations and insights from the hosts regarding market trends.
“Strategy shares down nearly 6 % after the Bitcoin treasury company said it is selling$2.5 million worth of the crypto.”
Transcript
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1:01Live from the NASDAQ MarketSite in the heart of New York City's Times Square, this is Fast Money. Here's what's on tap tonight. A bottom in for housing, what Berkshire Hathaway's latest buy signals about the state of home builders and the names that look best positioned right now. And two stocks getting very different receptions after their presentations at ASCO. All the findings from the world's biggest cancer research conference. And the co-CEO summit therapeutics on what is next for her company. Plus, NVIDIA gets in on the PC chip market, another potentially big deal in the casino space. and a major strategy shift why the crypto treasury company is selling Bitcoin and what that means for the entire token trade.
1:36I'm Melissa Lee. Come to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ. On the desk tonight, Tim Seymour, Karen Feinerman, Steve Grasso and Guy Adami. We will get to Berkshire's big housing bet in just a moment. But first, another big Berkshire deal announced just moments ago, sending shares of Alphabet lower. Let's get to Mackenzie Stagallis with more. Mac. Hey, Mel. So Alphabet announced an equity offering offerings totaling$80 billion as part of a plan to fund investments in its AI compute infrastructure. Now, as part of this, Berkshire Hathaway will buy$10 billion of stock comprised of$5 billion of Class A stock, another$5 billion of Class B.
2:12That is in addition to Berkshire's share that has been building in the third quarter of 2025. Last we knew is roughly 1 % stake. And, I mean, as of the last, as of two weeks ago, Berkshire had boosted its Alphabet stake to nearly 58 million shares, up from 18 million. That was worth about$23 billion. So if it's adding another$10 billion, we're looking at a north of$30 billion stake that it's taken. Mel? All right, Mac, thank you. Mackenzie Cagallos. Karen, I will go to you first. This is a major position for you. What does this mean to you? I mean, it's interesting. You always want Berkshire to be a buyer.
2:46why they want to sell equity. I'm not quite sure as opposed to some other form of debt or something. They are a very, very good credit, although they will be using some of the proceeds to buy calls so that they won't be, you know, they won't be, they'll have ups, basically. So I think it's interesting. I don't know that it really changes things that dramatically. I mean, it's a gigantic company. I know$80 billion is a lot of money, but on the scale of things as the scale changes every day seemingly. To me, the takeaway is that Berkshire is there. I hope that it's reminiscent of when Berkshire, remember when they first bought their Apple State?
3:27Yeah, that would be great. But on the whole, I don't I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet. But the Berkshire part is to be the biggest. I mean, we have been talking about all these companies going to the public debt markets and going around the world to the public debt markets. And here they are finding another way to raise money. I mean, does that signal anything to you that maybe going to the debt markets, they've tapped out on that for at least for the time being? I think, you know, Google going to the equity market or the debt market anytime in the last five years would have been seen as what's, you know, why do they need to do this?
4:00Unless they were issuing 100 year paper, which, you know, a couple of these guys did at the lows of yields back during COVID. I mean, it looks genius. It's a 10 billion private placement to Berkshire, which, you know, you'd obviously again. That shows commitment. That shows long term. Berkshire has been building this position since late 2025. By the way, great run for them. So, yeah, you mentioned it. Google was out there issuing debt denominated long term, you know, 10 years. They did this in multiple actually tranches across yen, Swiss franc, you name it. They're diversifying outside the United States.
4:33I think the capital markets business for the hyperscalers is alive and well for the foreseeable. I view it as sort of a positive. I mean, 80 billion dollars on a four and a half trillion dollar company. I don't think it's Karen said it's insignificant. The fact that Berkshire's there buying some of it, I think, is important. So the fact that the stock is lower doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. It would not surprise me to see this thing higher at some point over the next 24 hours. Your take? I don't really think much about it. I mean, it's a it's a huge company. I don't think they they could do it themselves if they had to.
5:03I don't I think you're going to look at Berkshire. They're going to try to deploy funds in certain different areas. Greg Abel's got to leave his stamp. I don't really think about it that much. Too big of a company. I do think, though, we have to remember that these are companies that were all free cash flow generators to the moon. Meta's not net cash anymore. So they're a net debt company. It doesn't mean they're an indebted company. It doesn't mean that they have a tough leverage. In fact, they're fantastic from a credit perspective. But I think that's the question. It gets back to what's the multiple you want to pay for these companies.
5:34And people were thinking a very different thing, at least for Meta and Microsoft. Or I know you want to go back to Karen, but what if what if this is sort of the top in the spend where they've spent all the money that they want to spend and they don't want to spend? Do you think that's I don't know? I don't know. I don't know if they're going to ring the bell when they say we're done spending on CapEx. I think that I think that it's just it's something worthy of watching for the telltale signs. Well, Guy was at a very big number college reunion. Yeah, so 40 years, Tim, you can say it. And when you went up to that late in the night to get top off your cup at that keg party, was that your last beer?
6:17I didn't go to a kegger, Tim, just so you know. We didn't do that. I like what you're trying to do there. And it probably would have been my last beer. It would have been my first and last, as it turns out. Okay. Was there anything else beyond this? No, no, that was it. So there's a little more color to it. Some of it is stock and some of it is convertible into these mandatory convertible preferred stock, which that is getting closer to a debt-like structure. And then if you add the calls in there, if they convert, sort of Google has that sort of covered. So they also say they need, well, they have giant CapEx, as we know.
6:55They also have some tax obligations and some compensation obligations that they want the cash for. All right. Well, we'll keep watching this. The stock is down 2 percent right now. Let's get to Berkshire's other big deal. The investment giant announcing plans to buy publicly traded Taylor Morrison homes for nearly seven billion dollars, sending shares soaring more than 22 percent. It is the first acquisition under CEO Greg Abel and comes amid a particularly tough time for the housing sector. Builders have been struggling over the last few months. You're Horton toll, Pulte all down 8 percent or more.
7:27Lennar tumbling more than 21 percent. The group hit by a weaker consumer, elevated construction costs, not to mention volatile mortgage rates, keeping potential buyers on the sideline. The rate, by the way, in a 30 year fixed mortgage climbing back over six and a half percent. But is the bet from the traditionally value focused Berkshire a sign that the housing sector has hit a low and that maybe things could turn around or was this a one off? Well, you have to look at the track record and the success of buying sectors that were bombed out, especially in the industrial side and in the banking side.
8:00The housing sector has been under a lot of pressure. I wouldn't say that the valuations in the space are so dirt cheap that it was, you know, it was kind of like too cheap to ignore. Spending less than 2 percent against back to that number we're just kind of using. What relative to their cash pile? Is this a big deal? Is this indicative of more? I think it's opportunistic. Yeah, look, I mean, historically, trying to time on the back of their purchases or sales has historically been a foolish thing to do and a difficult game to play. I mean, if you just did that in terms of their cash holdings, they have almost$400 billion of cash sitting around right now.
8:32And if you're trading on the back of that, as I've sort of said you might be looking to do, that's been foolish as well. So I don't think this marks the low as all. As a matter of fact, I still think the housing sector is under tremendous pressure here. Yeah, they already have a place. They own Clayton Homes already. So this will be additive to their housing sector, and they're going to combine those. They'll be number four in the United States for housing. Where are rates going? That's what this depends on. So if this is going to be a good purchase, 80 % of mortgages are below 6%. So if you really look at where we need a mortgage rate below 5 % or 5.5 % to make all of these purchases make sense.
9:16And we're not there yet. UBS was out with a note saying this is, you know, it's long term capital. So you have to have a longer term horizon as opposed to just the day to day stock market. And it's a big vote of confidence because it's going to be long term money coming in, in addition to Berkshire. Others like Berkshire, as well as Japanese companies, which have been very active in the housing market, which is fascinating to me. I thought it was a really interesting deal. You want you'd want someone like Berkshire, right, taking somebody out. And it's interesting to me, the flip side of it. I know David Faber was trying to get at this this morning with the CEO.
9:48Why are you selling for cash, right? You've given up your upside of this thing's turning around if you didn't take any stock. Although it's not like this would be the tail that wags the whole Berkshire dog. But I think that was sort of interesting. You know, in other situations where industries have gotten really bad, this is not right now where we are in housing. But, you know, remember the bank situation and Berkshire was able to do fantastic bank deals. This is actually a bit lower than the high that Taylor Morrison has ever traded at. That was sort of interesting to me. But I think I don't know if I were another home builder, I'd be a little bit a little bit happy about this deal.
10:30Because you've got a very big voice saying, all right, it's where we'll step in here. Although there wasn't really much reaction in the rest of the sector. I think there was, though. Sorry to interrupt. Oh, you think it would have been worse? Yeah, given what was happening to rates and, you know, with oil, I think it would have been worse. And they closed. OK. Listen, maybe we'll come back to this in a couple of months and say they picked or this announcement was a bit of. But I don't think that's going to happen. And again, I think in order to be bullish in the housing market, this is just me.
10:55You've got to think the rates are going lower, which I don't. You've got to think the unemployment pictures can get better, which I don't necessarily think. By the way, look at consumer sentiment vis-a-vis the stock market. I mean, people don't feel good about the things because I think they're worried about the resiliencies of their jobs going forward. That, to me, is not a great outlook for housing. Well, in the micro today, you had, first of all, rates opened lower. We had the 10 year get up to 451 and rallied back to close kind of where we were on Friday. I still would argue you can make an argument outside of kind of war disruption in terms of the volatility in the 10 year rate.
11:26You've actually had an uptrend in rates from October of 25. I think there are at least a couple here on the desk that believe that rates can continue to go higher. It's a day when you had an ISM on manufacturing that was extraordinary, like 54, 52.7 last the first quarter. And the last three months average manufacturing ISM is somewhere like 52 and a half. And we we haven't had numbers like this at least four years since the last one we had. But we haven't had a streak of manufacturing activity like this in a while. At the same time, we also kind of within the lines on some of those numbers. We also learned that there's probably the widest gap between real disposable income and consumption.
12:02And it just kind of tells you what's going on with the consumer. They have less money to spend at a time when, you know, clearly manufacturing activity is picking up. But I'm not sure that the consumer and really the middle class homebuyer is in a great position. For more on what this could mean for the housing market and homebuilders, Logan Motoshami, lead analyst at Housing Wire, joins us now. Logan, great to see you. Good to be back. Are you positive about this development? I mean, you think this is good for the rest of the sector? You know, I don't think this is any kind of call on the short term on housing.
12:33I just think the entire sector has had a lot of takeovers. Japanese companies have been buying home builders because they sell more adult diapers and baby diapers over there. But Beezer just had a hostile bid. Zonda, which is a data company for builders, got acquired last week. Redfin got acquired by Rocket Mortgage. There's all this consolidation. I think this is more of a longer term play for the entire industry that when the next housing cycle comes, there'll be fewer players, but those players have more chess pieces with them. You think there's more consolidation, though, to come even? 100 percent.
13:12Are there specific areas that you'd be looking for? I think every every every part of real estate and mortgage is in play. Again, when Beezer had a hostile takeover, Beezer thought their value was a lot more, their book value. So if you believe that maybe five to 10 years out, you'll have another housing cycle, this is kind of the opportunity. They're not dirt cheap, but they're good enough right now if you wanted to take a stake in for the next cycle. But I don't think this is anything short term. The builders, our new home sales sector is at 2019 level still. They still can sell homes a little bit better than the existing home sales market.
13:48The existing home sales market is working from record low levels. I think that's the more telling story if you want to talk about housing in a general term. Logan, good luck at a Tango concert later this evening. I'm sure you're going to do extraordinarily well. And I won't be drinking a beer, guy. Boom. You have to have a view on rates, I guess. Do you have a view on rates? To me, I think getting above 6.75 % on mortgage rates is a little bit more difficult now, even though inflation is rising. Mortgage spreads is the story of the year for mortgage rates. If mortgage spreads hadn't improved, we'd be over 7 percent already in the last few years.
14:25Mortgage spreads compressing down has kept rates at a level to where the existing home sales market can do fine. But the new home sales market is just basically stuck in a channel range since 2019. If you take the covid highs out in the 2022 2022, it's out of the picture. It's Karen. Thanks for being on. We've talked a lot in the past about the sort of inventory that hasn't come on the market because people have mortgages that are too low. Do you see that changing at all? More supply? As long as rates stay high and mortgage demand is suppressed, inventory can grow. Inventory, how we track it, just went negative year over year, but it's working from much elevated levels.
15:06So the shortage story that has been talked about for a long time, we're almost back to normal. So we don't have that. But majority of home sellers or buyers, those tend to be baby boomers, Gen X and elder millennials who have lower mortgage rates, but just need to buy a house. So home prices or growth is slowing down. Wages are outstripping home prices. Housing gets a little bit more affordable. If rates go a little bit more lower, you get a little bit of growth in sales. And that's kind of it. Housing typically is kind of slow and boring, not as fast as it was post-COVID. But the inventory story is gone in the sense that there are record low levels of inventory to where we have extreme shortages.
15:47All right. This may be a little bit off topic, but I mean, if you're looking for hotter pockets, do areas around data centers benefit in terms of real estate prices? I think there's a big backlash in those areas. You're probably going to get a lot of fights. But to be honest with you, I know some of the builders sold some of their land to people that needed that to build data centers. So if you really wanted to look at something like that, Richmond, Virginia is probably the place. But I just don't think people want to live next to these data centers out there. So it could be kind of like an Airbnb backlash going out in the future.
16:22But for land, that's very good for landowners, this data center pool. Logan, great to see you. Thank you. Bye. All right. So still sort of cautious about homebuilders overall. Well, Logan, not cautious about what he's wearing. I can tell you that. So, by the way, is that sateen? What was it? We could have asked him. He was probably still there. And I'm going to stop being a wise guy. His view on rates needing to kind of stay here or go lower is the toughest part here, because I do think that we all know the sensitivity that's been interest rate related. And right now, I think it's kind of working in the other direction.
16:59Yep. Meantime, oil prices spiking to start the week as negotiations between the U.S. and Iran, or lack thereof, continue to weigh on the markets. Eamon Javris spoke with the president earlier today. He joins us now with the latest. And there's been a lot of back and forth, Eamon. Yeah, there's been a lot of latest today, Melissa. Wild ride in oil markets. And it began with this report that we saw this morning where the Iranians had put out a statement from state media saying they were backing out of negotiations with the United States because they were frustrated about Israeli behavior. That sent the price of oil spiking about 8 % early in the day.
17:33We saw that move in oil, and we decided to call the president to get a sense of, you know, have these negotiations actually ended or not. And we talked to the president a little bit about the oil market. Here's what he said. We've got a graphic here prepared for you about the oil market. I asked him, are you worried about oil prices? The president said no. And I said, given the apparent breakdown of these negotiations, he said no. I don't worry about that, no. And what the president told me earlier today is that his focus here is making sure that the Iranians don't get a nuclear weapon. That's his singular focus.
18:05And in terms of the politics of gas prices, he said Americans are prepared to ride out higher prices as long as they understand that it's for this longer-term goal of not having a nuclear Iran. But the president told me earlier today that he didn't care if negotiations had broken down. He said, I don't care if they're over. Honestly, I really don't care. I couldn't care less. If they're over, they're over. But then later in the day, we saw the president tweet that negotiations were ongoing. So after he made those comments, he tweeted that or he posted on social media, I should say, that those negotiations were happening.
18:40And then we saw this, a statement from Hezbollah to the Lebanese parliament announcing that the U.S. proposal to halt resistance operations in exchange for the Israeli regime not attacking the southern suburb of Beirut. Hezbollah is saying that is unacceptable. Now, that is according to an Iranian IRGC-affiliated media site, but they tend to be pretty direct in terms of conveying the Iranian and Hezbollah perspective on the world. So the president suggested today that he had worked out something with the Israelis and Hezbollah on social media. We see now Hezbollah within the past, I would say, half hour or so posting that, in fact, it's not acceptable to them.
19:22So we end the day sort of where we began it, Melissa, a bit of a muddle. What a ride. Eamon, thank you. Eamon Javers. I mean, talk about fog of war. I don't know what you call the muck of war. I have no idea. I don't know what to make of any of this. Nor do I. I'm not going to get into the politics of it. I will say it just goes to show, and Karen and Tim and Steve have been talking about it, you've got to stay long these energy stocks. I mean, they've pulled back. Look at PSX, for example. I mean, with everything that's going on, right around an all-time high. OAH hangs in like a champ. Valero trades well.
19:52So this is not going to be over anytime soon. As a matter of fact, the closer we get to the 4th of July, the more I think this thing is going to get strung out, because we all can look at the calendar, as can the Iranians, and say, you know what, it's in our best interest to push this thing out and force the administration to try to do something they don't want to do. But what's shocking is the reaction. You don't get that WTI spike. It ran up to 110. Last week it was down around 85. So this is the major market story. And I think once we do get that agreement, if when it's coming, we don't know how long it's going to be.
20:24It's coming and you're going to see oil drop markets. They have moved on for now. Let's call it what it is. And except for possibly the rates market. And again, that's probably that reversal from 451 down to 445. to. Coming up, a spark in NVIDIA shares a semi-giant unveiling its first chips or personal computers, how the new tech could bolster the next leg of the AI race and the companies that will help bring the chips to market. Plus, Barry Diller doubling down the billionaires at People Inc. going all in on MGM Resorts, the details behind that deal and what it means for the rest of the casino space.
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23:07The beat was massive. So that's the biggest earnings per share surprise since 2018, with the upside coming almost entirely from servers. On guidance, HPE raising its full year EPS earnings per share to roughly$3.35 to$3.45. That's up from$2.30 between a range of$2.30 and$2.50. So they also bumped up their revenue growth to roughly 29 % to 33%. So these are substantial increases to their guide. I also spoke with CEO Antonio Neri, who told me traditional server bookings are up triple digits, the biggest backlog the company has ever seen. AI demand, of course, is accelerating too, but it's specifically accelerating on-premise demand because of security reasons.
23:49Companies want that close. And on the supply side, he was a little more direct, saying memory stays constrained, costs elevated well into 2027, and no price relief in sight. Niri also flagged networking as the core to the company's thesis. And of course, the numbers are backing that up. Keep in mind, they acquired Juniper. A big portion of that networking came from Juniper. Gross margins came in just a little bit above 36 % versus a 34 % estimate. And so that shows that the Juniper integration is working and working ahead of schedule. HPE also introducing 2027 targets tonight, six months early.
24:23And with Dell and Lenovo posting their own blowout numbers in the same just two-week span, the market is maybe making the case that this move is bigger than just one company and why shares are up 36 percent. All right, Christina, thank you. Christina parts Nevelis. Meantime, we do want to talk about NVIDIA bouncing 6 percent today, adding 320 billion to its market cap, a gain of roughly the size of a Goldman Sachs. The jump coming after CEO Jensen Huang revealed a move into PCs, telling Computex 2026 Today and Taipei that NVIDIA chips that will serve as the main processor for laptops and more.
24:55The announcement putting pressure on incumbent PC processor stocks, Qualcomm tumbling almost 9 percent, Intel, Apple and AMD also lower. Let's first deal with HPE. This is a staggering move, maybe historic move at this point. Dell shares in the after-hour session higher again, up 3.5 % on top of being up 10 % in the regular session. On top of being up 30 % on Friday. Right. So what do you make of all this sort of one-upsmanship? I mean, they're all up on the exact same news multiple times. So, I mean, you know, the magnitude of the beat for both Dell and HPE. I mean, if you didn't know what the stock did, and it's ASCO, and you think phase three trial.
25:39It cures cancer, right? Yes, absolutely. Up 33. I mean, that would make sense. This is just a frenzy. But we talked about it on Friday. The language that Dell used about how significant and how rapid this change is and how gigantic they seem to be. I mean, it's just, you know, release the hounds, you know. It's people going nuts. But I'm still wrong. Amazing quarter. I mean, you could have put all you wanted at$22 in March. It's now June 1st. Analysts obviously didn't see it coming. We talked about this with Dell last week. There are 22 analysts that cover the stock. The average price target I will round up is$31.
26:16Now, I'm not saying that I saw it coming because I did not. But it's an extraordinary quarter. But to Karen's point, built on similar news I've been hearing seemingly over and over again. And the same news that I think supports Cisco, which I'm long. So, I mean, I hear servers. I hear networking. And when I hear HP guide to a 30 % fiscal year forecast, like, that's nice. That's great. But the implication has to also be, again, I'm sorry, but we are a baseball show here. Early innings in terms of the enterprise. Right, Guy? Well, it's June. So if you're like six or seven games under 500 on June 1st, like how do you feel about your season?
26:51You feel like you've got a lot of time left, Guy, and nobody wins anything. We don't have a lot of time now. Yeah. So what I find what I find it interesting is to see where the puck is going, where NVIDIA is up 20 percent year to date. Karen's already talked about Dell up 270 % year to date. And when you look at a Cisco that is outperforming at NVIDIA, investors are looking for a different spot to go. They're exhausting every other space within tech. And NVIDIA, although it's still sexy, is not outperforming. So there's something wrong with it, you're saying? No, I'm saying it's broadening out, and they keep trying to pick as many levers as they can.
27:28But I think at this point, probably better money is to be made in other spaces. I actually bought some NVIDIA today. You did? I did. I think, you know, the NVIDIA, not sexy. The GPU story is less sexy now. The CPU is really, you know, that's much sexier. So if they're going to be in the CPU business as well, I think the stock should be higher if we're in this environment that we're in right now. There's a lot more Fast Money to come. Here's what's coming up next. Rolling the dice on a casino deal. the billionaire making a play for MGM, and whether the buy could mean a jackpot for the media mogul.
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30:06MGM Resorts surging 16 % today after Barry Diller's People offered to buy the casino giant for roughly$48 a share in cash, valuing the company at$18 billion. People already owns 26.1 % stake in MGM, and Diller sits on the board. He said he would accuse himself from board actions on the proposed deal. The move was MGM's best stay since last February and sent the shares to their highest close since the financial crisis. He said, basically, the company is undervalued in its current form. It could never be fully valued. This comes on the heel of Caesars news we had last week. Now this, and he's probably right, by the way, he still has got some tread left on the tire.
30:44But it goes back, in my opinion, Wynn. Now, people say, obviously, the Macau exposure they have is not a good thing. I think that's going to turn in their favor. And I think at 106, wherever it's closed, I think Wynn is the place you want to be. So I always liked Barry Diller as an arb. He always was colorful and funny, although not following this one. I mean, they have a very, very big leg up. It's going to be really hard for someone else to come in and bid more, given they already own 25 or so percent of the company. Also, normally, casino deals can take a long time since they're already such a big holder and do have forward representation, maybe less.
31:19But I passed on this one. Coming up is a rally on its last legs. Why one top strategist sees the market's record climb coming to an end and where he thinks the opportunities are right now. More on that when Fast Money returns.
31:41Welcome back to Fast Money. Stocks kicking off the week with more all-time highs. The Dow, S &P and Nasdaq all climbing modestly but closing at records with the tech-heavy Nasdaq leading the gains up nearly half a percent. The moves even as oil prices spike on the latest developments out of the Middle East. WTI jumping five and a half percent, settling above$92 a barrel. Our next guest sees parallels between the record market gains in 1999 with a major caveat. Chris Harvey is head of equity and portfolio strategy at CIBC Capital Markets. Chris, great to see you. Great to see you, too. All right.
32:11So you want to ride the momentum, but you recognize the risks. Yeah. And so we're just having our eyes wide open, right? If we go back to 1998, this thing continued. You're seeing similar things. You're seeing big story IPOs come out. But the market continues to run for another 12, 18 months. And we look at the fundamentals today versus back then. They're so much better today than they were back then. We were talking about clicks and eyeballs. Here we're talking about upward EPS revisions and a whole new secular story. And so I think this is pretty robust. I don't think the market's going to let you back in.
32:42But we have our eyes open. There is risk building out there. And there's just time for a little bit of volatility. So, Chris, and the IPO calendar, I know you also believe is part of this catalyst. There's a whole lot of technical dynamics, too. I mean, you've got ETFs that are front running, preparing for this. You've got arguably$3 trillion companies, one that may be close to two. How isn't that some heaviness, though? Doesn't that concern you that there could ultimately that could be a gut check for what people are willing to pay for AI? So think about what you were talking about before, M &A.
33:13The M &A activity is much stronger than I ever thought. So now I had a company that just got bought. I have to redeploy that. I go and I do an IPO or I get involved in an IPO. More than likely, I'm going to make some money. I have to redeploy that. And so risk seeking is going to beget risk seeking. And if you look at what SpaceX is going to issue, it's 3%, 3-ish percent. Okay, that's not a ton. And if it's 30 percent, they really need or you would expect them to have a pretty good IPO, which is going to open the door for other things. You put it on a note, market won't let you back in. I know what you mean.
33:44The sell offs are such that people are like, I'm not going to let this happen because I've seen it before. Does the Vixit less than 17 in this environment make any sense to you? Here's something that you want to keep your eye on. The credit markets strong like bull, right? IG credit spreads. People at home don't watch this. They don't see this. but we're back to multi-decade lows. That's fueling a lot of what we're seeing. That's fueling the M &A activity. That's fueling the CapEx spend. I think Google was just talking about doing more CapEx, and they're going to hit the equity markets, they're going to hit the credit markets, and that's just going to continue things.
34:19So we're not too worried about VIX where it is right here, right now. Chris, when you're answering these questions, when you're looking for, as I said before, they don't ring the bell at the top. What are you looking for as far as CapEx spend? rolling over. Is that the linchpin? So when Tim asked you about what they're willing to pay for AI, what's the metric that you're looking at for when the market, because the market's always ahead. So what's the metric? So we're looking to see how, we're looking at the credit markets, we're looking to the equity markets, more so in the credit markets than the equity.
34:51We're looking to see how those new issues trade. When they stop trading well, right, or we need to reprice them or they get downsized, okay, then it's a different story. But until that occurs, it's still game on. So do you think the Iran story is irrelevant at this point? The market just doesn't care whatever the outcome is? I don't think it's irrelevant, but I think what the market is now saying is we're going to get some sort of deal. We're going to get volatility, but we're going to look through that. In addition to that, if you do get a deal, what that's going to allow the Fed, people are talking about the Fed raising rates.
35:26If you get a deal, right now we have a price hike. We have hikes priced in, right? You get a deal, you can say, we're going to look through this supply shock. That rates are too high, not for Wall Street, but for Main Street, and they're too restrictive. And so we think there's still a lot of room for this bull market. And we think that the situation in Iran is something that the market's just discounting at this point in time. Chris, nice to see you. Good to see you, too. Chris Harvey, CIBC. Is that the right thing to look through the supply shock? That's what, well, Steve makes that point all the time.
35:58I'm not convinced of it yet because I think it's going to be around for a while, but I hear you. But in terms of stocks, the IPO calendar, things not trading particularly well, understanding this is a fly on the rear end of what OpenAI and SpaceX are going to be. But Cerebus, which came out a week and a half or so ago, I mean, the stock I think was priced at$175 ,000, traded up to$380 ,000. Look at where it's trading now. So you can make the argument that that hasn't been trading particularly well. I think Chris makes a great point in terms of free flow to some of these IPOs. I mean, it's not going to be just because it's a trillion dollar market cap or something like that doesn't necessarily mean there'll be that much stock.
36:30The index and the passive money is going to soak up a lot of this. So interesting time. Coming up, two big movers in the biotech space. Excuse me. The unprecedented unprecedented new drug data boosting revolution medicines and why Summit Therapeutics is moving in a very different direction. The co-CEO will join us to detail what is next for the company when Fast Money returns.
37:00welcome back to fast money oncology drug maker revolution medicines rising four percent and closing out records the company reporting over the weekend that its experimental pill for pancreatic cancer nearly doubled survival compared with chemotherapy angelica peoples is at asco's annual meeting in chicago with all the details and angelica i mean the mood in the room completely changed when they unveiled this data. That's right, Mel. I mean, everybody knew what to expect. We saw the top line results and we saw that this drug did double overall survival. So there weren't any surprises, but that didn't stop the emotion in the room.
37:34They pulled up that slide with the overall survival chart and people stopped and started applauding. Some people were in tears. And it was a moment where even the presenter said, you know, I didn't budget this into my time. I didn't really expect this. And, you know, people I talked to said they've seen some standing ovations, but they've never seen something quite like this. And so that's because this has been such a hard area, right? You haven't seen progress in pancreatic cancer. And it is a type of cancer that's so aggressive. People are diagnosed and then unfortunately they rapidly decline.
38:01So this is a drug that extended survival and also helped people feel better. And this could just be the first one. We have more drugs from Revolution Medicines in the pipeline and also other companies who are pursuing this. So what's next for Revolution Medicines? Well, CEO Mark Goldsmith told us that they are working as fast as possible to get this drug in front of the FDA, and they said that they are working on all the final data analyses that they need. They do have one of those vouchers, the Commissioner's National Priority Review voucher, that entitles them to a one - to two-month review.
38:31So it could come quick, and what's next for them in terms of the rest of their pipeline? This could be something that works in lung, colorectal. So again, there's more work to do there, but this could be a really big breakthrough. Melissa, back over to you. Stay right there, Angelica. We do want to talk about Summit therapeutics as well. Its lung cancer drug is another closely watched experimental treatment at ASCO this year. The stock is down over 10 percent today, even after its Chinese partner, Akeso, said the drug slashed the risk of death by 34 percent among patients in China. Angelica is now joined exclusively by Summit's co-CEO, Dr.
39:04Mackie Zagane. Angelica, take it away. Mackie, thank you for joining us today. I mean, it has been just so much debate going into this, And then yesterday with those results, you know, your drug extended survival. It did what it needed to do. But then there was a discussant who came out and had a lot of questions. So what was going through your mind in that discussion? Okay. First of all, that is the first drug that is statistically and clinically benefit for a patient compared to PD-1 plus chemo. That is bottom line. So in all therapeutic area right now. And for sure, when you saw yesterday, it was a lot of controversy about this drug coming from China.
39:44At the end of the day, when you are a patient, it doesn't matter where the molecule is coming from. If it's China, it's South Africa, or wherever it is, as long as you can extend the life of a patient, that is count. But it's for sure, it's a lot of controversy. When me and Bobby started this company in 2020, and in 2022, we get this molecule from China, nobody wanted to invest even in this company. And we got this molecule from Ekeso, our partner in China, and even nobody knew about the biospecific. What is a PD-1 VEGF? A lot of critics at this moment, they were there. Now, three years later, we are over 150 clinical trials going on if the IST program sponsored trials combined with Ekeso.
40:29And we have right now, I can say four phase three trials that we read out either as a monotherapy against Pembro is for sure that shows that we show that is as well is we can duplicate China data. So we are in multiple therapeutic area. If it's a lung cancer, if it's a colon cancer, and we are really proud to what we are doing. But as you say, it's a controversy and you cannot change the opinion of people. And then later on, if you really look at it after us, all of the big pharma, if you see Pfizer yesterday, two days ago, They showed 10 billion with collaboration with InnoVent or Lilly. All of them, they were right now in China and getting the molecule from China by specific of Merck is from China.
41:11Pfizer is from China. So I do not understand very well why. Well, I think part of it, what I heard yesterday was, you know, it wasn't so much that it was in China, you know, and the quality of the data. It was the questions about who is actually studied and whether that will translate. And you do have, like you said, this global trial that is ongoing. You know, you had this interim PFS that didn't hit. And now I think altogether people are wondering, like, what can we expect to see? Will we see that benefit in China? Will we see that again in global populations? So what should people be thinking about that?
41:38First of all, I would correct a little bit because the people say we didn't hit. But that is not exactly the point. It was an IDMC, and IDMC say continue. What that means? Safety, continue. If we were not better than Pembroke or at this moment of time not better than control arm, they would stop it. They didn't. They just say continue. We just put the bar high that at this moment of time we can go to the FDA and we can communicate with the FDA based on the data that we had in China to bring the drug sooner in the hand of patients. So number one, that is very very important point. And second, we started our actually I can say the HARMONY data which is on the EGFR study.
42:20We did HARMONY A, was an ECHESO study, HARMONY is our study. If you really look at it, we duplicate the China data. You know, I mean, on the PFS side and we get even OS and we are right now in communications with FDA on these specific trials. So it's not really, I can say at this moment of time, it's not that we didn't hit, but we are going to present our interim analysis for OS as well as final analysis for PFS by the end of the year. So it's a question of time. And you're already in front of the FDA with not the day that was presented yesterday, but how are those conversations going with the FDA?
42:56And do you feel like they have enough to approve the drug? You know what? I give a lot of credit to the FDA. At the moment that we started in 2023, it was a lot of, I can say, different discussion between big pharma with China partners. And when we get there, FDA really give us a real chance to continue one of our trials, which is two-thirds was patients coming from China, one-third patients coming from Europe and U.S. And they allow us to pursue these trials. And we proved these trials. I mean, if you look at it on the PFS, we did it. On the OS, yes, the reason we didn't get significant OS at the June timeline was because this trial was four months took us to enroll first patients because nobody believed in this molecule of PD-1 and VGF inhibitor.
43:51And then later on, as soon as the data came, we accelerate the data, we accelerate the enrollment. And I can say right now we are in a good communications with FDA and we will see how everything will go. But the most important part is this drug is benefit patients. You know, the safety profile, the tolerability of the drug is important and we will see how everything will go. You know, as long as you are not a cancer patient, you cannot feel cancer patient. I had my cancer. I know what I'm talking. At the end of the day, every drug, every drug has a merit as long as they can extend the life of patient.
44:29Even for one day, one month, we have to do everything for our patients. And that is my philosophy in life. Two percent chance is not zero percent. Well, we have to leave it there. But thank you so much. Miki Zongane from Summit Therapeutics. Mel, send it back over to you. All right, Angelica, thank you. And our thanks, of course, to the co-CEO of Summit Therapeutics. Specifically, what analysts are concerned about is that the study was done in young men in China who smoked and that this may not represent the results that they'll see in the global population. But as the doctor had said, they are conducting the global study right now.
45:03So we'll soon find out whether or not they are replicated, the results in China versus the global population. Waiting for the results on non-Asian, absolutely. And, you know, if you read through some of the writings that I've over the last couple days, or today specifically, A lot of people saying, look, this is not a home run, but it's probably a solid double. So I get the stock sold off. I understand the binary aspect of these things. D.E. Shaw just added to their summit position. I think you go with them. Coming up, never say never. The Bitcoin reversal from strategy and what it means for the company's long-held crypto stance.
45:32More Fast Money in two.
45:42Welcome back to Fast Money. Strategy shares down nearly 6 % after the Bitcoin treasury company said it is selling$2.5 million worth of the crypto. Its first sale in more than three years and only its second sale ever. Bitcoin prices down 2.7%. Excuse me. Now down 18 % this year. Oh, you know, look at the proxies. They're down. Grasso, what do you mean? Make of this move. There's nothing. You could talk your way around it that he never, never said he wasn't going to sell it or he would like not to sell it. or Bitcoin, Maxinista, he's always going to have it, always going to be buying it. You could talk around it.
46:18It's not a good thing when you see strategy making sales. For whatever the host of reasons could be, it's not a great thing. I'm much longer Ethereum than I am Bitcoin, but I think for the complex, crypto is Bitcoin, and I don't like the headline. I mean, this is always the bear case, right? That crypto would hit a severe winter and they would have to sell. I mean, they did telegraph that they were going to sell. So it's not entirely a surprise. It's just they still did it. Yeah, and it does get back to average costs, and it gets back to us with the accounting treatment of what you're selling.
46:54And, you know, not great news. Up next, final trades.
47:07Final trade, Tim. Like that, HBQ. Buy Cisco, then. Karen. So if Google trades down a lot on this offering of various securities, I would be a buyer. Let's see. Big week for quantum inflection. Key. Keep it in the casinos. Melms win. All right. Thanks for watching Fast. Mad Money starts right now.
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