Big Tech Earnings… And The State of Women’s Sports 7/22/26

22 Jul 2026 · 44 min · 29 chapters

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In short

Fast Money covers major Big Tech earnings (Alphabet/Google, IBM, ServiceNow, Tesla), market movers (AT&T, GE Vernova, CME Group, etc.), and a Senate “clarity bill” affecting crypto; it also shifts to women’s sports investing with WNBA star Renee Montgomery.

Guest backgrounds

Anthony Scaramucci (founder/managing partner of Skybridge Capital; trader for the hour). Gene Munster (Deepwater Asset Management analyst). Renee Montgomery (two-time WNBA champion; USA Sports WNBA analyst; co-owner of Atlanta Dream).

Key claims

Alphabet shares fall on CapEx guidance ($195–$205B for 2026) despite strong cloud growth; search is a slight miss and Gemini timing/spend concerns linger. IBM and ServiceNow suggest enterprise AI/security spend isn’t pulling away from their categories. Tesla misses EPS (33c vs 51c) and margins (16.28% vs 18.5%) but is framed as “SpaceX proxy.” Crypto bill likely advances if procedural steps happen; Bitcoin could grind higher.

Notable examples

Google cloud up ~82% YoY; Tesla FSD subscriptions 1.48M; ServiceNow calls itself #1 cybersecurity grower in enterprise software; Deloitte projects women’s sports market at $3B in 2026.

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Earnings Overview

0:00 to 0:22

A summary of major earnings reports and their implications.

“Mazda has been named Consumer Reports' safest new car brand.”

Earnings Overview

1:30 to 1:54

A summary of major earnings reports and their implications.

“Coming to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ, on the desk tonight, Karen Feinerman, Dan Nathan, Guy Adami, and our guest trader for the hour, Mr.”

Alphabet's Earnings Breakdown

1:54 to 3:14

Discussion on Alphabet's earnings report and its implications for the market.

“Full team coverage on all the key reports.”

Market Reactions to Alphabet

3:14 to 4:40

Analysis of market reactions to Alphabet's earnings and future outlook.

“Mackenzie Cigalos on shares of Alphabet.”

Impacts of CapEx on Alphabet

4:40 to 6:00

Examining the effects of capital expenditure guidance on Alphabet's stock.

“So, I mean, that seems in the scheme of things, in the scheme of their market cap, it doesn't seem big at all.”

Google's Competitive Position

6:00 to 7:20

Discussion on Google's distribution advantages and market competition.

“To Guy's point on the search, that was sort of the boogeyman out there, and they've obviously quelled those sorts of fears.”

AI and Google's Strategy

7:20 to 9:10

Exploration of how AI developments are shaping Google's business strategy.

“Services are, well, search rather, is a little bit higher margin.”

IBM and ServiceNow Earnings

9:10 to 10:50

Insights from IBM and ServiceNow earnings calls and their implications.

“And at the end of the day, Google saying that they need more compute, which I actually would impute that that's probably pretty bullish.”

Market Analysis of Software Sector

10:50 to 14:01

Wrap-up of the software sector's performance and future outlook.

“But look, they're projecting that they have some stable guidance here and that that business is not handicapped in a significant way that it continues to do what it normally does.”

Earnings Analysis: IBM and ServiceNow

14:01 to 17:21

Discussion on the recent earnings reports of IBM and ServiceNow, their impacts, and market sentiments.

“We should note that when the earnings first crossed for both of them, the stocks were higher and they sort of paired some of those gains back as this session has gone on and as the conference calls have gotten underway.”
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Tesla Earnings Report Insight

19:00 to 24:16

Analysis of Tesla's earnings, discussing revenue, EPS misses, and product expectations.

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Market Movers: AT&T, GE, and CME

24:16 to 25:50

Review of major market movers including AT&T, GE Vernova, and CME Group with their earnings results.

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Market Movers: AT&T, GE, and CME

26:55 to 27:52

Review of major market movers including AT&T, GE Vernova, and CME Group with their earnings results.

“Muted in Wednesday, trading the Dow and the S &P 500 virtually unchanged while the Nasdaq shed half a percent.”

United Rentals and Market Predictions

28:00 to 28:40

Discussion on United Rentals' performance and market outlook.

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Senate's Cryptocurrency Bill Discussion

28:40 to 29:40

Analyzing the implications of the Senate's clarity bill on cryptocurrencies.

“And that existential risk that everybody was worried about a month and a half ago, I don't think it's coming to fruition.”

Ethics in Politics and Crypto

29:40 to 31:10

Exploring the ethical challenges faced by politicians in trading.

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Investing in Digital Economy ETFs

31:10 to 32:50

Insights into digital economy ETFs and the importance of foundational businesses.

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Bitcoin Market Sentiment and Predictions

32:50 to 33:40

Discussion on Bitcoin's current market sentiment and future predictions.

“Now, I also believe that the stuff is coming, whether people like it or not, because it's better technology than what we have.”

Tech Earnings Coverage Ahead

33:40 to 34:00

Preview of upcoming tech earnings reports and expert analysis.

“All of those reasons, I think Bitcoin is bottomed.”

Analyzing Alphabet and Tesla Earnings

34:00 to 35:10

Deep dive into Alphabet and Tesla's earnings reports and implications.

“Another look at the after hours earnings movers, Alphabet and Tesla lower while IBM is struggling to stay positive.”

Margins and Revenue Opportunities

35:10 to 36:40

Examining the relationship between margins and revenue opportunities for Google and Tesla.

“obviously that spend has a big part of the margin and the earning slowdown.”

CapEx Insights from Tesla and Alphabet

36:40 to 37:50

Discussing capital expenditure trends and their importance for Tesla and Alphabet.

“somewhat more in line and we can really see what the margins are?”

AI's Impact on Tech Investments

37:50 to 39:20

Exploring the current state of AI and its effect on tech investments.

“This is a massive CapEx year, says Elon Musk on that conference call.”

Women's Sports Market Growth

39:20 to 40:50

Analysis of the growth potential and financial projections for women's sports.

“Gene Munster from Deepwater Asset Management.”

Renee Montgomery on Women's Sports

40:50 to 42:00

Interview with Renee Montgomery about her insights on women's sports and business opportunities.

“Women's sports expected to bring in at least$3 billion in 2026, according to data from Deloitte.”

Growth of Women's Sports Market

42:00 to 45:33

Learn about the significant growth and investment in women's sports, highlighted by key partnerships and audience engagement.

“In fact, Deloitte predicts that women's sports market will be at $3 billion in 2026.”

Upcoming WNBA Game Announcement

45:33 to 45:55

Hear about the WNBA game scheduled for tonight and its significance for viewers.

“By the way, apparently there is a WNBA game tonight on CNBC at 10 p.m.”

Capital One Earnings Discussion

45:56 to 46:53

Discussion on Capital One's earnings and the implications for the consumer economy.

“Shares at Capital One down today despite earnings that beat estimates.”

Final Trades and Market Insights

46:54 to 47:42

The hosts share their final trades and insights on various stocks and the market.

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1:08What tonight's reports tell us about the state of software, AI and more. Plus some clarity on the crypto bill. G. Vrnova powers down. What Capital One tells us about the health of the consumer. And two-time WNBA champion Renee Montgomery will join us to talk about investing in women's sports. Why she sees so much opportunity and her picks for the women's championship this year. I'm Melissa Lee. Coming to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ, on the desk tonight, Karen Feinerman, Dan Nathan, Guy Adami, and our guest trader for the hour, Mr. Anthony Scaramucci, founder and managing partner of Skybridge Capital.

1:40Welcome back, Anthony. Come on. Welcome back, Anthony. Happy to be here. Way back when. Way back. Been a while. He used to sit on this desk. Glad I could still fit in a chair, actually. We want to start off with a big slate of earnings out in just the last hour. Full team coverage on all the key reports. John Ford standing by in service now on IBM. Phil LeBeau is tracking Tesla. We start off with McKenzie-Sagalos on Alphabet. Shares are now down by about 2.6 percent. The company beating revenue estimates. Sales jumping 24 percent from a year ago. Call is underway. It's been underway for about 30 minutes.

2:12Mac, what's the latest? So, Mel, you saw those shares take a steep fall lower with the dip beginning as management laid out its second half outlook. So the company is expecting a slight currency headwind in Q3, reversing the one-point tailwind from Q2 with the biggest impact here expected to show up in search and YouTube ads. Of course, both of the search segment a miss for the second quarter. Meanwhile, management still expects strong cloud growth, says it only has a small portion of existing TPU system sales expected to be recognized this year. Of course, we thought we'd see more of that in H2, so that might be part of what's weighing on the stock.

2:47But they say the vast majority of that is now pushed into 2027. The TPU, their in-house AI chip, a real bright spot for the cloud business. And we are getting an updated read on CapEx. That might also be part of what's dragging down the stock here. It is guiding to a new range of$195 to$205 billion for 2026 CapEx for the full year. So finally getting some of that forward-looking guidance. And those shares down 2.5 % now. Mel? Matt, keep us posted. Mackenzie Cigalos on shares of Alphabet. that, Karen, what do you make of the$195 to$205 billion for CapEx? Yeah, I think that's why it's down. So that's 15, in the center, midpoint to midpoint,$15 billion of additional CapEx, which is, you know, I don't know, 78 percent.

3:29That's not nothing. So everyone's going to have to do that, it would seem, right? Yeah, I think that the race is still on. And so, I mean, they put up really good numbers. Certainly, cloud was really, really impressive. But this, I think, will end up being the story of the earnings. Yeah, and they're saying that they're going to, for fiscal 27, it's going to go up significantly. I think that was somewhat of the language that they gave when they reported on Q1. But at a time where the market is kind of questioning some of the spend, I think that's important. Also, this company, you know, when they did that debt offering, they announced an equity offering.

4:04And they had not started yet. And it's about$40 billion. So, you know, on a$4 trillion market cap company, maybe that's a rounding error. But from a sentiment standpoint, it's so sooner or later, it might have a little bit of an impact. Revenue is up 24 percent. Cloud was up, I think, 82 percent year over year. That's a staggering growth, if you think about it, which suggests things are still going well. I mean, search, OK, slight miss, maybe. I think the quarter is fine. If you're selling it on the back of the spend, I get it. We've seen that before. NVIDIA is probably higher, I would imagine, in the after hours on the back of that.

4:34But I don't think you run away from Google here. Well, you got higher spend, but you also got that ATM, the issuance that's looming over the stock. So, I mean, that seems in the scheme of things, in the scheme of their market cap, it doesn't seem big at all. Now, maybe they couldn't do it between the end of the quarter and now they're going to announce earnings. I mean, they could quickly do this. I think this is a day that Greg Abel likes and Warren Buffett likes. They see numbers like this that are decent and they see the long term trend up. And if you're going to take it down three percent, that's Mr.

5:06Market in its short term manic depression. So I think they like days like this. But I I want to maybe ask Guy this. The the search being down is a little more than people did expect. And so you have a dashboard of Google searches going down. Gemini is delayed. And the CapEx is not what people are expecting. Yeah, I think that's the problem. Right. You shake that up into a salad. And it comes out. And that's why it's down. I think, listen, the search was disappointing, but I don't think it was catastrophic. And remember, it was a year and a half or so ago where people were talking about the existential risk that AI presented to Google in terms of the search business.

5:42So it's not falling off a cliff, but your point is well taken. I think it's a spend. My instincts suggest it's when the spend came out is when they sold the stock off because the quarter on its own to me was pretty good. Yeah. By the way, search revenue, 63.3 billion versus 63.4 billion estimates. So it's a little miss there. I mean, listen, this company has been executing. To Guy's point on the search, that was sort of the boogeyman out there, and they've obviously quelled those sorts of fears. I think distribution is something we've talked a lot about. When consumer adoption was going on with ChatGPT, they were running away with it, right?

6:14And a lot of folks just kind of discounted what Gemini was likely to do or be able to compete with GPT, and then Anthropic had clogged come out and it wasn't growing anywhere near. If you look at Google or Alphabet in particular, they have five properties that have over 3 billion users, right? It's Gmail. It's Chrome. It's Android. It's YouTube. And I think there's one other I'm missing. But you get the point. They have distribution, right? They can embed Gemini there. And they don't actually need to charge for it because they're able to monetize it in other places. And I think that's a big part of the bull case.

6:43Anthony just mentioned they pushed out the latest sort of Gemini. Maybe it's fine. Maybe it's good enough because it's embedded in all these things. And they're creating user behavior that is going to be pretty sticky. When you use a word like significantly, that's a little bit squishy. Let's go 27. They would go up significantly in fiscal 27. That leaves a lot to the imagination. Right. I mean, recently I'd seen estimates of$590 billion for this year and the two coming years for Google. So maybe that, or Alphabet, it's a little bit low maybe. And so a couple of things, though, I just want to add.

7:20Services are, well, search rather, is a little bit higher margin. So a tiny, tiny margin. But the Google Cloud, 35.5%. I mean, that's a really significant margin. So we're going to see likely very good numbers from AWS and Azure Cloud. I would think this isn't great for Meta, though. The spend. The spend. The spend. If they are in the arms race. Well, if you are of the belief, which is what you put out there, that they're raising by 15 roughly. So everybody else is pushed to raise as well. They want to be at the table. Right. Then that's not good for in terms of this whole we want to see the ROI because the eye keeps going higher.

7:57Would you like to own YouTube as a standalone company? I mean, it's just literally one of the most phenomenal media companies in the world. And if you're a media company, you're competing against YouTube as a colossus. I mean, so just put that whole thing together. Is that something you want to hold for three years? I do. Love the stock. Right. So you want to own Alphabet in order to get at it, in theory, even though it's a small part of the business. I mean, the rest of the business is spent. No, I'm just making the point. They're all interconnected. If they were to spin it, you mean? I think that thing would be worth a ton of money if they spin it.

8:31I'm not saying they're going to do that, but at some point they may do that. Yeah, Tim Seymour talks, when he's here, he talks about the sum of the parts, if in fact that would happen. I don't think it's going to happen. Anthony is not suggesting that it will happen, but some of the parts Google is more valuable than I think it is as sort of this, the piece as a whole. I will say this again. Look, I get it. The market is scared of spend. Meta is down in the after hours. I just looked at it. It makes sense. I think the tell tomorrow is going to be how well does NVIDIA trade on the back of this increased spend?

8:58If it doesn't perform, maybe that's a bit of a tell, because NVIDIA has been trading great the last couple of days. Yeah, one of the takeaways I have here is that they said they're going to expand use of third-party AI capacity in Q3. And what's interesting to me about that is that if you look at some of the XAI, like, for instance, and, you know, they are basically selling their compute. Meta just talked about doing it. They want to be neoclouds. And at the end of the day, Google saying that they need more compute, which I actually would impute that that's probably pretty bullish. Right. And so at the end of the day, we know that Anthropic has not built out as much as compute as they need.

9:30That's why they went to XAI. That's why Google went to XAI. They did those deals on the eve of the SpaceX IPO. So it says something about Google and it's saying something very different about XAI. They overbought. They overbuilt. Now they have excess capacity, and they need to sell that off because XAI was losing a billion dollars a month. And those two deals that they did, that's great. They're$2 billion a month. They don't start for a few months. But both sides have it three-month out, and that could change very quickly. So if Google and Anthropic want to pull back on that, that would be a big problem for XAI.

10:02All right. Shares are down 2.8%. Alphabet conference call still going on. We'll bring you the updates as we have them. Meantime, let's get to two software movers. Service now jumping after top and bottom line beats. IBM also higher. The company, of course, gave an earnings warning last week that Censure is plunging. John Ford spoke with the CEOs of both companies this afternoon. So, John, what did you learn? Well, let me start with IBM. That call is underway, and one of the first things they're saying is we don't see signs that customers are abandoning the mainframe. So I think the theme for both of these companies tonight is maybe it's not that bad.

10:35On the IBM side, that's kind of leveraged against what they already announced, that pre-announcement saying, yes, we did pre-announce that. There is a spend shift going away, at least momentarily, from the mainframe business toward these memory issues that the AI situation has created. But look, they're projecting that they have some stable guidance here and that that business is not handicapped in a significant way that it continues to do what it normally does. I spoke to Arvind Krishna earlier, asked him specifically about that Z mainframe cycle, the way it tends to spike the first year, drop the second year, and then stay even in year three.

11:15He said that's still the cadence. It's just that the little details within that, the velocity of that drop in this particular quarter that they're reporting now, was faster than expected. Now, I also spoke to him about what Microsoft is doing, these forward deployed engineers. This was announced in the past few days, maybe about a week ago. They said they're going to take around 8000 folks and put them out with customers to help them get AI done. IBM, of course, has a business that's very much about that. They're consulting business. And Arvind said, yeah, you know, we're going to be doing more of that.

11:52You know, Palantir has done it. Actually, it's part of IBM's legacy that perhaps we forgot about. They will be doing more of that forward deployment of engineers. also talked to him about open source and open weight models. His argument is that that's going to benefit IBM because of the other business that comes alongside when customers start choosing, what are they going to run on those frontier models that's really expensive? And then what are they going to put on some of those open weight models that they're cooking homegrown? IBM's already doing some of that for customers, Arvind told me. And for ServiceNow, John?

12:30For ServiceNow, that call also underway. But Bill McDermott's message is that ServiceNow is different from the rest of software. And certainly, given the numbers that we saw out of Pegasystems earlier this week that were more in line with what we saw out of IBM, that idea that revenue is being sucked in the enterprise away from some of the traditional spend into some of that AI infrastructure spend, we don't see that in ServiceNow. ServiceNow beat all of their major categories here. And Bill McDermott saying, hey, we're growing as a cybersecurity player. He said that we're the number one cybersecurity grower in enterprise software.

13:07Number eight overall is his argument. He says they're going to continue to grow there. And as Gil Luria was telling you earlier, this whole control tower idea of there being companies who can orchestrate AI across a number of different providers for the enterprise, perhaps starting to sink in a bit more as the conversation has shifted away from how much can we spend on figuring out how to use AI to can we figure out how not to spend more than we need to on AI because, boy, that token burn is really expensive. That management idea is not just about spending money. It's also about security, as we saw in this hugging face open AI situation.

13:49situation. And the ServiceNow argument from McDermott is that they will play a key role in that. All right, John, thanks for that. John Ford all over IBM as well as ServiceNow. We should note that when the earnings first crossed for both of them, the stocks were higher and they sort of paired some of those gains back as this session has gone on and as the conference calls have gotten underway. Yeah, I think the more interesting the two for me is IBM. I mean, ServiceNow is sort of getting back what it lost during the day-ish. It's, you know, again, that seemingly has a lot of headwinds. You throw that in a mix with Microsoft and Oracle, I think we'll understand what's going on there.

14:23I think IBM's a little bit different now. For context, IBM went from 290 to 214 in a straight line on that pre-announcement that we talked about on the day of. We haven't recaptured that. But then you look at the quarter and say, you know what? A little bit better than the pre-announcements, which we were hoping to see. Red Hat is still growing at 11 percent. It doesn't deserve a market multiple, but it deserves a better multiple than it's trading at now. So I I think Baird just initiated neutral with a 230-hour price target. I think that's more than reasonable. I think it should trade higher than that.

14:52We discussed ServiceNow last night, if they were able to come in line and guide in line and actually have some sort of commentary that it's going to be hard to rip out their products from existing customers. And I think the security point is a really good one. John just mentioned the OpenAI agent that accidentally hacked Hugging Face as a collaborative platform where AI models are held. I mean, that's one of the things. Listen, look at Palo Alto Network. Look at some of these other security names. They are really outperforming much of SaaS or enterprise software in general. And I just think that's going to be a theme.

15:25I think every month we're going to hear about some sort of agent hacking some system that people are not going to be particularly happy about. Tomorrow, based on ServiceNow, based on IBM, does IGB go higher? I think a little bit. Yes, I do. I mean, I think it's a little distressed. I don't own ServiceNow. It did trade much better very early on as opposed to here. But I think the bar is low-ish. So I do think IGB trades better. The one thing I just wanted to add about IBM, we talked about it that day where it really got just annihilated. I bought some the next day really on the bet of they pre-announced they are not going to need to really have further bad news.

16:07Right. Because one week later, that would really be why do that. So a little bit of bounce here is not surprising. So I want to come at this from a blind perspective. If you're growing revenues at 20 percent, let's say I just came in as a Martian. I got out of the spaceship. So I sort of looked at this company. I'd be like, this is a phenomenal company. And it got cut in half. And so then the real question is, do you want to hold this thing long term? I say yes to this. And I bought IBM when the AI craze started, did well. We're now faltering here. But this whole collection of assets is going higher.

16:46It may not be going higher right this moment because of what's going on sentiment-wise. I think people need to see through the sentiment. And if Steve were here, we'd talk about quantum. I think IBM said they'd spend$10 billion on quantum. Obviously, we know what the administration thinks about that. So there are other plays that IBM X some of the concerns we have about software in general. That's a good game if I were a Martian and I saw this stuff. What if I – you are a Martian. I see Mel says to me every once in a while she thinks – I might be a Martian. I can't confirm or deny whether or not.

17:14That's right. Not a game. All right. IBM shares are up just about a percent or so. Coming up, more earnings movers we're watching tonight. We'll bring you the numbers from Tesla's quarter next. With that call kicking off in less than 15 minutes, plus the road ahead for crypto, whether the updated clarity bill can move the needle for the industry, and whether it's enough to bring investors off the sidelines. Don't go anywhere. Fast Money is back in two. Thank you. Vanguard index funds that participate in investor choice. Vanguard marketing corporation distributor. It's smart to always have a few financial goals and a really smart one you can set earning cash back on what you buy every day.

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19:06Welcome back to Fast Money Earnings Alert on Tesla. The stock is lower right now after the EV maker reported better than expected revenues but missed on EPS. Phil Abose got some more of the numbers. Phil. And Melissa, that EPS miss, it's a substantial one. 33 cents a share is what the company earned in the second quarter. The street was expecting 51 cents a share. As you mentioned, revenue did come in better than expected at more than$28 billion. The street was expecting just under$26 billion. The numbers within the numbers in the second quarter, energy storage revenue. This was light of expectations coming at$3.12 billion.

19:40The street was expecting at least$3.5 billion. CapEx, a little better than the street was expecting at$5.78 billion. But automotive gross margins, roughly 2 % below the estimate from analysts. They were expecting 18.5%. They come in at 16.28%. Their FSD subscriptions, which has been steadily growing over the last year, up about another 200 ,000, up to a total of 1.48 million compared to 1.28 million in the first quarter. And finally, in terms of what people want to talk about, Optimist production, CyberCap production, when it comes to the Optimist robot, they are installing the production lines out in Fremont, California.

20:18Still say that they expect to begin production this year. Melissa, as you know, all of this could change, what, in 10 minutes? That's when the conference call starts. You never know what Elon has to say. And when he says something that typically moves the stock more than the initial earnings report. For better or for worse. Phil, thanks. Keep us posted. Phil LeBeau on Tesla. So obviously it was a big EPS miss. They are on target, though, for a lot of these sort of moonshot, you know, products. So Ron Barron would say, you know, it's not about the quarters. It's not about any of this. It's about the story.

20:50I get it. I mean, I will say, to the extent that people care, free cash flow expected to be minus$3.3 billion was better. It was just about a billion dollars good for them. But the margins and what Phil was talking about, it's ex-regulatory credit, 16.3 percent against 18 and a half. They promised us two years ago that they bottomed out in terms of margins that they would start to reinflect. It hasn't happened. I mean, these are legacy automaker numbers. But if it's not an auto company, none of this matters. Right. So what is it? And I'll tell you what it is. It's a SpaceX proxy. And so as SpaceX trades, so will Tesla trade.

21:26It's inevitable. Just a question of when. When do they merge them together? So it has to move with SpaceX. But you're shaking your head. Karen, it is so good to be back together with you because it's like I was literally going to say that, but I'm going to say add something now. OK, it's autonomous transport. It's A.I. and robotics at three hundred and forty nine times earnings. But if you believe in Elon Musk and you believe what Karen just said, you know, it's like owning an option in him. And there are tombstones of dead hedge funds. Guy and I know. I got hedge fund managers, buddies of mine.

22:04They shorted Tesla. They own three Teslas and they had to shut the fund down because it was short in Tesla. So I wouldn't go anywhere near this other than long side or neutral on something like this. If you are a believer in the AI story, you should be a big believer in the physical AI story. And right now, Tesla is one of the leading companies when it comes to physical AI. It's worth noting, and I get Anthony's point about, you know, lots of hedge fund managers getting taken out, being short this thing. This stock has been such a massive underperformer to the S &P 500 and the NASDAQ over the last five years.

22:36If you had money in this, it's just been, you know, I mean, like, eviscerated relative to what you could have done in the SPY in the QQQ. And I think that is really important to think about, especially how professionals manage money, right? There's been lots of opportunities to trade this thing, and I know a lot of hedge fund folks who do. I think about it this way, all right? This stock topped out with a$1.7 trillion market cap. And, you know, make no mistake about it. The last four years for this auto business have been a disaster. They had margins, I think, above 25 % at some point. Now they're like in the space of Ford and GM at that 16.1 X credits.

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23:11And that's not a good business. So if RoboTaxi does not come on the way that they expect it to do, then the production of those cars are not going higher. They are literally they're they're exhausted in the U.S. and in Europe. So you better hope that SpaceX that started with a two trillion dollar market cap, right, doesn't top out the way Tesla did. And you better hope that it doesn't go sideways for three or four years because there's a good probability that it could do that. I'm not telling them short it. I'm not telling you anybody should sell it here or whatever. It doesn't trade well. And I think if they didn't have that XAI, I can't imagine where the stock would be trading because it would only be trading on Starlink, which is a good business.

23:50But it doesn't deserve a multiple. And then if it's all in the come about Starship and all this other stuff, well, then you better not hold your breath for that. And that's the same story as Tesla over the last five years. Yes, that is the common thread amongst all the Elon Musk companies. Remember when you and I did the shoot where we drove a Tesla together? Yes. Wasn't that fun? Where was it? Short Hills Mall? Short Hills Mall. And then we went to the Cheesecake Factory. Yes, cake. Ticker to cake. Wasn't that fun? How long ago was that, by the way? It was probably 15 years ago. All right, so that Model S was the best car they ever made right out of the gate.

24:21And since then, they've all been like hunks of junk. Did you see the article about comparing the Cybertruck with the Edsel? I just want to vomit all over the camera shot. I mean, what a piece of junkie. Don't do that. Anyway. He is a human meme. You short him at your high risk. I wouldn't go near that on it. But would you be long? Well, I own it. I fully disclose to you that I own it. I own SpaceX. And I'm a big believer in the long-term game of what he's trying to achieve. He's an idiosyncratic guy. Everybody knows that. But I would not bet against him because he's working right now somewhere, probably under his desk on something that we don't even know what it is that's going to explode in two years.

25:01And I'm going to be a part of it with him. Well, I'll hinge on what he says on the conference call. That starts off in just about five minutes time. Meantime, coming up, some fast movers catching our traders' eyes. What is behind the posterings moves in GE Vernova, AT &T and CME Group? That's next. Plus, Bitcoin back in focus as an updated crypto bill makes waves in Washington. What the mooch sees in store for this trade? Straight ahead. Fast Money's back in two.

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26:58Welcome back to Fast Money Stocks. Muted in Wednesday, trading the Dow and the S &P 500 virtually unchanged while the Nasdaq shed half a percent. AT &T popping 3.5 percent despite mixed results. Net ads coming in ahead of expectations. The company also accelerating its planned buybacks to$10 billion this year. GE Vernova sinking almost 9 percent despite a Q2 revenue beat and guidance hike. The company is seeing declining wind revenues and weaker onshore equipment deliveries, also warning of additional charges related to tariffs. CME Group surging 5 percent, putting in its best day since 2023. The exchange operator beating estimates and saying the first half of 2026 was its best ever start to a year.

27:37And some more after hours moves on the radar. Texas Instruments lowered despite better than expected top and bottom line results. Las Vegas Sands sinking, missing earnings and revenue expectations. Southwest Airlines in the red on weaker results and a nearly$900 million jump in fuel expenses. But United Rentals jumping as rental revenue rose 13 percent to a record. This is the R in your previous acronym. Yes. For rentals. What was the previous one? It's terrible. That's what it was. Yeah. It was terrible. This one's worse. But no, United Rentals are fantastic. A beat and a raise. They do not raise unless they are absolutely certain.

28:15They've done a fantastic job. They have these huge projects. This has been a really, really good stretch for them. And I think it's going to continue. It's not cheap, but staying long. Yeah. Sammy, just quickly. 30 million shares average daily volume. It's the third best quarter, I think, in their history. History is a long time. So, you know, the rumors about their demise are greatly exaggerated. I mean, I get it. There's all new products coming out. But Terry Duffy, friend of the show, friend of ours, is always one step ahead of the curve. This was a great quarter. And that existential risk that everybody was worried about a month and a half ago, I don't think it's coming to fruition.

28:49Meantime, Bitcoin's recent rally on pause today and crypto related stocks like Coinbase, Strategy and Robinhood also lower. This as an update to the Senate's clarity bill would ban federal officials from issuing or sponsoring cryptocurrencies. Anthony, is that a bad idea to ban federal officials from sponsoring cryptocurrency? It seems like it's logical, but apparently we do need a law in order to make that happen. I think the big thing is the Democrats said to the White House, we need an ethics provision that has teeth in it. And so they said, what do you want? And they said what they wanted in the White House gave it to them.

29:24And now the Democrats are saying, well, that's not enough. We want state AGs to be able to enforce these federal ethics provisions. So that's a real problem because then you have to redo all of the ethics codes in the federal government because you can't have the state just prosecuting the crypto and not all the other ethical potential violations in the federal code. So they've got to get around that and they've got to have a compromise. But then the biggest problem is the procedural one. You only have 14 days to go before the August recess. So you need what's called the procedural prep for a bill like this that happened before the weekend.

30:00Today's Wednesday. That means sometime tomorrow afternoon we're going to have to hear that that's in play so they can get it down to the floor to vote. If it gets to the floor, it's going to pass. That's my opinion, because I think a lot of the younger Democrats are not going to want to go up against the crypto bros and their PACs come November. That's my opinion. If it doesn't get to the floor, it dies a brutal death. And then guys like Brian Armstrong, after all the hours and time and energy that they put into this, they start building their businesses off the shore of the United States. May I ask Anthony a question?

30:32You may. See, I asked permission, which I, isn't that nice? Yes. Why is it so difficult? You hear from people, I know I do, I'm sure you do. The game is rigged. The politicians, whether it's Democrats, Republicans, it goes across the aisle, not allowing them to trade. Why is that such a difficult concept? Not just crypto, equities in general. Well, they make money doing that. You know, if you're paying them$180 ,000 a year and they have insider information, they're allowed to trade on it. They make millions of dollars a year. And so I would rather take a Singapore model, pay them 15 million dollars a year, 10 million dollars a year, and then get really tight on them with the ethics.

31:08But we don't do that in this country. They can't afford two houses. Let's say you're a member of the house. You make one hundred thousand dollars a year. How are you going to live in your district and how are you going to live in Washington on that money? So they have all these different loopholes and they have all these junkets and they have these ways to get them money. And, you know, LinkedIn today, I mean, I'll send it to you, Guy. They showed Nancy Pelosi's stock market performance versus the S &P and Warren Buffett. It's remarkable. OK, so it's remarkable. And so is that fair? Does it make sense?

31:37It doesn't make sense. Remember, when Peter Schweitzer's book came out in 2011, they banned it. And then they put it back in by voice vote. They didn't even go on the floor because they didn't want C-SPAN to see them voting for it. So they did a conference call and they reinstated it. And so to me, it's very, very bad. But you also have to understand you have to pay these people. If you're not going to pay them, they're going to find ways to make money so they can afford their life. All right, Anthony, you were a crypto skeptic. Then you became a big bull and you're in on it. I mean, like Bitcoin is your thing, right?

32:09Yeah. So if you're crypto curious, but you don't really get the underlying, you know, the pillars of it. What about looking at last night? We had a great conversation. Well, I thought it was a great conversation. Maybe I brought it up. That's why it was a great conversation. We were talking about some of the institutional platforms. You know, we had talked about Coinbase and what they do. We talked about bullish. We talked about a circle. You know, throw it all. Are those interesting businesses, whether you believe in Bitcoin or not? You know, I love those businesses. We have a first trust skybridge digital economy ETF called CRPT.

32:40And if you look at the list, all of those businesses you just mentioned are in those holdings. And so I'm a big believer in the picks and shovels of the digital economy and this sort of new age fintech. Now, I also believe that the stuff is coming, whether people like it or not, because it's better technology than what we have. This is the Uber problem. OK, let's go back to Uber. Government hated Uber. Mayors hated Uber. Taxi commissions hated Uber. Who liked Uber? The people. And so the people basically burned them off and won out. You don't have enough people in crypto right now to fight back the government resistance to what's going on in Washington.

33:16Just quickly. Yeah. Bitcoin. Where's it go? Well, it's going to grind higher because the sentiment is terrible. We're doing this a long time. Relative strength index, all time low. Fear is at like a seven on a scale of one to 100 in terms of greed and fear. And there's no supply of Bitcoin in the marketplace. And there's no interest. And if you go search searchable terms on Google, Bitcoin is down 55 percent in terms of searchable terms. All of those reasons, I think Bitcoin is bottomed. I don't think it gets much worse in here. All right. Coming up, even more coverage of tonight's key tech reports.

33:52Deepwater's Gene Munster has been dialed into the call. So join us with his analysis when Fast Money returns.

34:06Welcome back to Fast Money. Another look at the after hours earnings movers, Alphabet and Tesla lower while IBM is struggling to stay positive. Deepwater Asset Management's Gene Munster is following all of these moves and all of the conference calls. You're a hard worker, Gene. What's your big takeaway here in terms of what it means, what this all means? Put it in a bag, shake it up for the AI trade tomorrow. Well, the most important piece, obviously, was related to what the Google CapEx guide was, 4 % higher than the street. And that ultimately means that the numbers for all these CapEx infrastructure companies are going to be going higher.

34:40We saw that in some of the after hours trading with some of the smaller companies like Coherent, Invertive, all trading up 1%, 2%. Nvidia is basically flat. But, Melissa, the simple takeaway is that this is really good for the infrastructure trade fundamentals. The question comes down to will investors give the trade credit? Hey, Gene, you would have talked about it. You are a hardworking guy. So thanks for being here. Thank you. When you look at the deceleration in earnings and sales and margins for Alphabet next year, obviously that spend has a big part of the margin and the earning slowdown.

35:17How do you think about that as an analyst, as an investor? Is that something that should be placed at least a discount on until you see enough reasons to actually see the potential for a reacceleration and margin improvement? You're hitting what is basically the key connection between Google and Tesla tonight. is this margin decline, fractional miss on margin for Google is bigger when it comes to Tesla. And this question about how should we think about margins relative to the broader revenue opportunity, CFO of Google said that they have had this caffeinated growth in Google Cloud that going from 63 to 83 percent, but they're going to have to go to third parties like SpaceX to continue to meet demand.

35:59That's going to push margins lower. And so I want to get the answer to your question, Dan, is what does this mean? Is that it's really important. These stocks are not going to go up unless margins are stable or moving higher. When it comes to Tesla, we had four quarters in a row of expanding out of gross margins, X credits, and that just came to like a crashing end here. And so I think it's really important. They don't have to go up into perpetuity, but they do need to go up and stay high for, I think, these stocks to continue to work. Jean, it's Karen. Thanks for being on. So just to get at that margin a little bit more, if they do have more demand than they can supply, when do we get to a period where that starts to be somewhat more in line and we can really see what the margins are?

36:46Well, that's kind of one of the crazy parts about these Google numbers is that they're, just to put it in perspective, they did$25 billion in cloud revenue in the quarter. They'll probably do like 130, 140 over the next four quarters. Their backlog in cloud grew 50 billion sequentially. It's now$514 billion. Now, some of them are several year contracts that they have. But Karen, when you look at those backlog numbers, when you have backlog numbers that are 3x what your next 12 months revenue are, it's almost hard for me to conceptualize when we're going to get to supply-demand equilibrium. And I think that's kind of the point here is that these companies ultimately are seeing this massive backlog and saying, I'm going to spend whatever it takes to get there.

37:29So to answer your question, I don't know when we're going to get that. It may be we may be a year plus out before we feel like we get any sense of where that demand that that equilibrium is. What's most important on that margin topic is investors have to believe it can happen before the margins actually go up and have to have some confidence that they are going to go higher longer term. If we could take a look at Tesla stock in the after our session, a leg lower here. This is a massive CapEx year, says Elon Musk on that conference call. The stock is down 5 percent. They originally guided Gene to twenty five billion dollars to 2026.

38:03So I guess it also follows along the line of of Alphabet. You said they followed along in terms of marginal. They're following along in terms of boosting CapEx apparently as well. So is that a surprise to you that they're increasing? Well, this was the one. There's a lot of good things on this Google call. I expected margins actually to be up, so I was wrong on that. I was right on this CapEx, and it was pretty easy to get because we know how important this is for them. The key is not this year, that$25 billion number. We'll get the details when the CFO talks about the exact number. The key is next year.

38:36The street's looking for$21 billion, so a step down. But that number likely could be up year over year because Elon was selling investors. I listened to the first few minutes of the call on this idea that it's going to pay off. This is the biggest opportunity to print money ever, kind of a theme when it comes to CapEx. And so I wasn't surprised by it. And I think another, I mentioned that kind of connection on the margin, but there's also a connection between Tesla and Google, a very easy connection, which is on that CapEx piece. And we've been waiting, we've been talking about the past year and a half for some sort of a slowdown in this.

39:09We're just not getting it. And so I think the simple takeaways, we're still very early in AI. It's hard for me to wrap my head around that, but we're still very early. And I think what we're hearing is evidence of that. Gene, thanks. Always great to get your take. Gene Munster from Deepwater Asset Management. We should note that we are also getting some headlines out of IBM, which were interesting. They said one third of those slipped second quarter deals have already closed. And they said that this was deferral and not destruction when it comes to those deals lost, So they seem to be addressing head on that concern that those deals were going to go away because the spending was going to favor hardware as opposed to what they're selling.

39:49That's good. But the stock is flat. Yeah, it's not doing much. Nothing much. I don't know. Two thirds. Yeah. Two thirds. Well, there's one thirds that have closed. Oh, right. I thought you said two thirds. It was one third have closed. Yeah, I see. I don't know if this big CapEx thing, is that more of the CapEx that IBM was not the beneficiary of? Right. Maybe that. I don't know. Right. I think it's telling that the stock is unchanged. I agree with that. And it's telling that it's lower than that. Again, 214 is where we traded down to on pre-announcement date, obviously lower than that. That is a tell.

40:29I think it's too cheap. I don't think they're getting credit for the other legacy businesses that are actually doing pretty well. And I put Red Hat in a legacy business. It's long enough now. Coming up from basketball to the boardroom, two-time WNBA champ and Atlanta Dream co-owner Renee Montgomery will join us to talk the business of women's sports and the biggest growth opportunities still ahead. Fast Money is back right after this.

40:57Welcome back to Fast Money. Women's sports expected to bring in at least$3 billion in 2026, according to data from Deloitte. For more on the state of play, two-time WNBA champion Renee Montgomery joins us now. She's also the USA Sports WNBA analyst. Renee, great to have you with us. Let's go. Let's talk it up. Thank you for having me. Love the energy. You are the first former WNBA player to hold an ownership stake in the Atlanta Dream. And so I'm wondering, what has happened in women's sports in the past, I don't know, five, ten years that have really, you know, awakened people to realize that this is a growing area and people have real interest in it and it is lasting.

41:37Yeah, I think the main thing that has happened is that people actually started to watch the game. As simple as it sounds, the product has always been top tier. Like it's been the best league in the world. But now you can just tell that businesses are understanding the growth. The fans are engaged. If people are following women's sports, it has the most engaged fan base, especially on social media. But then when you want to talk straight business. In fact, Deloitte predicts that women's sports market will be at $3 billion in 2026. And so just thinking of that and understanding that that's a 340 % increase since 2022, you start to understand why the investments are following, because there are surges in commercial partnerships and the game day growth and even broadcast expansion.

42:22I mean, right now I'm sitting in the USA Sports Studio, and that's a new partner of the WNBA, and there's others. And so I think that there was a conception that a misconception that women's sports was a charity and that women's sports is like, do the right thing, support women's sports. But now I think people understand it's a real investment. Renee, it's Karen Feinerman. Thank you very much for being on. Excited to have you. So following this a few years out, we're going to have a few more teams. The expansion, I'm a Liberty fan myself, so I have to warn you about that. But I I really wonder, do you think that we will continue to grow at the same pace or could it accelerate?

43:03I think the pace is great right now. I mean, we know that Cleveland's on the way. We know Detroit's on the way. We understand that Toronto and Golden State are already here. And when you see what both of those teams were doing, but if we take a spotlight on Golden State and not just leading the league in attendance, but I went to the game when Golden State, when the Atlanta Dream was playing at Golden State. And the way that their fans are engaged and locked in and just tapped in on everything with the team, it kind of should calm everybody's fear about the growth. And then you look at Portland, and they're selling out.

43:38And you look at Toronto, and I went to that game as well when the Dream played, and there were fans that came up to me that said, they're season ticket members, and they're flying to the games. They don't even live in the same city. They don't live in Toronto. but the whole country is supporting the Toronto team. So they travel in four hours at a time, five-hour flights to support their team. So I think that the growth is at a good pace right now with the teams that we have coming in. And I also love that. I know some people are worried about the growth happening too fast, but if these recent expansion teams are any indication of what's to come, then the league is in a great place.

44:14Renee, the NBA logo is Jerry West from the state of West Virginia, but you're the best basketball player to come out of the state, number one. Number two, what makes Gino, like what makes that program, the UConn program, so special? What does he do in one word or a few words that make it what it is? I think it's just the discipline. Like if I had to describe one word to describe coach, it's a discipline, and then there's a standard. And it doesn't matter what your standard was before you came to UConn. it doesn't matter what your standard is in your mind of what's hardworking, what's acceptable, what's right.

44:52Coach Ariyema has a standard that he set at UConn, and when you go there, you meet that standard. Like, he doesn't accept anything else. And so I think it's that, I mean, you could call it a perfectionist, but I don't even think he chases perfection, even though he's had multiple teams that have had undefeated seasons. I was fortunate to be on one, and we went 39-0. But the way that he trains and the way that he forces you every day to be your best self, I think, is what sets UConn apart. And thank you very much. I love Jerry West and love the state of West Virginia, but I appreciate that. Renee, thank you.

45:26It is a pleasure speaking with you. Thanks for your time. We will see you on USA Sports. Renee Montgomery. Thank you guys for having me. By the way, apparently there is a WNBA game tonight on CNBC at 10 p.m. Eastern time, so you won't want to miss that. Coming up, a credit check, why Capital One shares were under pressure today. More Fast Money in two.

45:55Welcome back to Fast Money. Shares at Capital One down today despite earnings that beat estimates. The company is saying credit losses fell and CEO Richard Fairbank noting that numbers do not reflect the K-shaped economy that many are talking about. Was that your takeaway, Karen? Yeah, I thought that was interesting. I mean, if one were really concerned about the state of the consumer, Capital One is an interesting place to look. And that really is not what the numbers showed there. So there's a little bit of noise because they did that big merger. They did a couple of deals, actually. And so I don't know.

46:28I thought the earnings were good. I'm intrigued. I'm going to pass on this one. I don't have a real opinion. All right. Guy. A lot of analysts raised their price targets. It was not nearly as bad as I thought. I mean, to Karen's point, it was actually good. but I still think credit's a problem for the consumer. Yep. Up next, Final Trades.

46:54Time for the Final Trade. Mr. Anthony Scaramucci. I'm going to say I bid, and that's Bitcoin, and it's a buy here. Karen. Yeah, so Alphabet. I thought it was a good quarter. It's not trading particularly well, but if I owned none, I'd buy some tomorrow. Dan. Yeah, ServiceNow, nice little pop here. It's obviously gotten killed. This could mark a near-term bottom this season for Software IGB. Okay, my final trade is Dollar Gen. But more importantly, I love Anthony Scaramucci like a brother. He's too kind or he's too humble to say this. For the last 21 years, SkyBridge have had interns over 300. Here are all of these SkyBridge interns at our show this evening.

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