Headlines From Apple’s WWDC… And Will Markets Recover from Recent Pullback? 6/8/26

8 Jun 2026 · 43 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Fast Money episode covers: Apple WWDC AI reveal and whether markets will recover from a recent pullback; Intel’s rebound; oil and trucking strength; GLP-1 weight-loss stock moves; broader IPO/AI IPO chatter; and tech market hedging after a rare selloff.

Guests/analysts

Tim Seymour, Steve Grasso, Dan Nathan, Guy Adami (desk). Mackenzie Cigalos (WWDC reporting). Walter Pajczak (LightShed Partners, neutral on Apple). Kate Moore (Citi Wealth CIO). Seema Modi (CNBC, IPO research). Angelica Peebles (ADA conference reporting).

Key claims/examples

Apple’s “Siri AI” is functional generative AI (screen understanding, personal context, standalone app) but not fully agentic (no dinner booking/car calling). Apple uses Google Gemini LLMs; some compute needs NVIDIA/Google Cloud. Monetization may come via limited usage and paid “Apple Intelligence” services; services ~ $124B. Intel jumped on report Google tapped it for 3M TPUs, framed as positioning-driven bounce; Intel valuation questioned. Energy: oil services ETF best day since Feb; Iran strike claims ended but could resume. Trucking: Old Dominion hits record highs; freight recession over per J.B. Hunt. GLP-1: Lilly’s Reda TrueTide shows dramatic weight loss; Novo’s Wegovy pill hits $3M prescriptions; Lilly and Novo stocks move opposite. IPOs: OpenAI confidentially filed; IPO “big pop” often underperforms later.

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Apple's WWDC Highlights

1:44 to 2:52

Discussion on key announcements from Apple's WWDC and market reactions.

“We start off with the biggest reveals from Apple's WWDC.”

Investor Reactions to AI Rollout

2:52 to 3:50

Experts analyze the potential of Apple's new AI features and stock performance.

“No John Ternus on stage, no groundbreaking agentic capabilities, and also missing is a path to monetize AI through its services business.”

The Challenge of Apple's AI Strategy

3:50 to 6:28

Exploration of the challenges Apple faces in AI compared to competitors.

“Ultimately, the bull case is that AI becomes this consumer toll booth for generative AI, and that would really be Apple's bread and butter if they're able to capitalize on that.”

Future Implications for Apple

6:28 to 7:48

Discussion on the future trajectory of Apple's stock and services revenue.

“I guess investors or traders are what Apple enthusiasts were hoping for something in September.”

Analyst Insights on Apple's Position

7:48 to 14:03

Insights from analysts on Apple's market position and future moves.

“I just don't think they're going to build models.”

Apple's Potential Fee Increases and Leadership Changes

14:03 to 16:50

Discussion on Apple's revenue strategies and the impact of leadership changes.

“We're going to just add more fees onto your, you know, services revenue with iCloud or whatever it is.”

OpenAI Files for IPO: Implications for the Market

16:50 to 18:17

Breaking news on OpenAI's IPO filing and its potential market impact.

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Market Dynamics and Upcoming IPOs

18:17 to 20:56

Analysis of market conditions surrounding recent IPOs and their implications.

“I don't know, but it's going to be, for me, let's see how SpaceX trades.”

Market Dynamics and Upcoming IPOs

21:44 to 21:59

Analysis of market conditions surrounding recent IPOs and their implications.

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Market Dynamics and Upcoming IPOs

22:04 to 23:08

Analysis of market conditions surrounding recent IPOs and their implications.

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Energy Sector Trends and Market Performance

23:14 to 26:15

Discussion on the performance of the energy sector amidst current market conditions.

“with the OAH oil services ETF seeing its best day since February.”

Trucking Stocks and Freight Market Recovery

26:15 to 26:48

Analysis of the trucking sector's performance and recovery from recession.

“Where one top strategist still sees opportunity and how she's putting money to work.”

Trucking Stocks and Freight Market Recovery

26:54 to 28:01

Analysis of the trucking sector's performance and recovery from recession.

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Tracking Freight Stocks' Performance

28:05 to 30:27

Discussion on the performance of freight companies and market trends.

“The trucking company has gained nearly 25 percent in the past month and is up almost 60 percent this year.”

Market Overview After the Sell-off

30:27 to 30:44

A review of market movements following a significant sell-off.

Analyzing Intel and Market Sentiment

30:44 to 38:51

Insights into Intel's performance and investor sentiment.

“Mixed to start the week after Friday's big sell-off.”

Preparing for SpaceX's IPO

38:51 to 42:00

Discussion on expectations and historical performance of upcoming IPOs.

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Market Dynamics and IPO Speculation

42:00 to 43:09

Learn about the current market hype around IPOs and the risks of chasing trends.

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Introduction to Diabetes Conference Headlines

43:10 to 43:20

Get ready for key takeaways from the American Diabetes Association conference.

Key Findings from the ADA Conference

43:21 to 45:02

Discover the latest advancements in diabetes medications and their market impact.

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Comparative Analysis of Lilly and Novo

45:03 to 45:56

Explore the competitive landscape between Lilly and Novo in the diabetes market.

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Final Trades and Market Opinions

45:57 to 46:54

Hear the final trade recommendations from the Fast Money panel.

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1:02Live from the NASDAQ market site in the heart of New York City's Times Square, this is Fast Money. Here's what's on tap tonight. Tim Cook's last dance to the outgoing Apple CEO Deliver at his final Worldwide Developers Conference. And will the tech giant's long-awaited AI rollout satisfy consumers and shareholders? An inside, Intel's rebound. The semi-stock recouping Friday's big losses. But is the move warranted? And what's it mean for the rest of the semi-trade? Plus, oil stocks get energized. Old Dominion trucks to new highs. And Lillian Nova move in very different directions after the latest updates on their weight loss pills.

1:34We'll dive into the data, details, and what is next for both these stocks. I'm Melissa Lee. Coming to you live from Studio B at the DASAC. On the desk tonight, Tim Seymour, Steve Grasso, Dan Nathan, and Guy Adami. We start off with the biggest reveals from Apple's WWDC. The last one was CEO Tim Cook at the helm, the company announcing the long-awaited revamp of Siri AI, as well as other new features and updates. Shareholders don't seem to be too impressed, the stock hitting a record intraday, but closing nearly 2 % lower. Mackenzie Cigalas has the latest from Cupertino. Hey, Mac.

2:05Karen Finerman:Hey, Mel. So the best way to think about WWDC this year is in two buckets, what Apple gave us and what it didn't. Now, what we got was functional generative AI branded as Siri AI. It's more conversational, has a standalone app, can understand what's on your screen, and draw on personal context. But what we didn't see was a fully agentic experience, the version that's booking your dinner reservation or calling your car. Now, under the hood, Apple announced a new generation of its own LLMs built with Google Gemini. They run on-device and through private cloud compute. But notably, Apple waited until a post-keynote briefing to unveil a model it says is on par with Frontier LLMs and powerful enough that Apple will actually need to rely on NVIDIA chips and Google Cloud for some of that compute.

2:49Karen Finerman:Now, other omissions help explain the stock move. No John Ternus on stage, no groundbreaking agentic capabilities, and also missing is a path to monetize AI through its services business. But, Mel, functional AI, it does open up the product roadmap for Apple. Yeah, and Mac, they also talked about limiting usage, which I thought was really interesting because that seemed to be the recognition of how much something will cost and maybe teasers to people get hooked on this and maybe down the line they charge for it. Well, precisely. And that's really where you see the most upside, where we may get a bounce back in this trade.

3:25Karen Finerman:It's how do they monetize this through the services part of their business, which is already on track to hit$124 billion this year. And that's before you factor in any sort of AI upside. And the thought process is potentially you have a paid tier of Apple intelligence, which enables more of this functionality, or even if you allow models to be plugged in, we didn't really get an explicit explanation around that, then you could take a cut from those model makers. Ultimately, the bull case is that AI becomes this consumer toll booth for generative AI, and that would really be Apple's bread and butter if they're able to capitalize on that.

4:01All right, Mac, thank you. Mackenzie Cigalos and Cupertino for us. Dan Nathan, was this enough?

4:06Melissa Lee:No, and we've been saying this is a third year in a row, I mean, at WWDC, and it's just unimpressive. And when you have this sort of presentation and you're only seeing basically like wireframes of it, that's pretty disappointing, right? And so this has been to get developers excited. It's also been a very big, obviously, investor event for a very long time. You know, the problem is that they're getting to this at a time where a lot of the moats in and around these LLMs are not particularly deep or wide. And so by the time they figure it out as far as what is on the device, forget about the services, forget about the apps that are going to be on there.

4:42Melissa Lee:People are not going to pay for that on the Apple, you know, they're just not going to. Right. So it's going to have to be exciting. The developer base and sort of the activity that goes on there, agents on the device. And so, you know, for me, the stock had a great run into it. And I think a lot of us were in that camp because, you know, the upside would have been huge if they were able to demonstrate that this is a game changer. and it's going to start a super cycle upgrade. We've been saying that forever, right? It just doesn't happen on the hardware front. So to me, I think the most exciting thing they have is coming up on the 20-year anniversary, just like Fast Money Guy.

5:14Karen Finerman:Well, if. Big if. Right. How about that? Let's not talk about it. You think we're in a jinx it a little bit? It might jinx it.

5:20Melissa Lee:All I'm saying, I'll pass it over. It was pretty unexciting, right? And the stock had a big run. Look at the relative strength that this stock had, you know, Friday, obviously, but just in the run-up to this event. I mean, 15 percent since the last earnings. That's the run. Yeah.

5:34Karen Finerman:And but because they've disappointed so many times, as Dan pointed out, I guess I'm not that worried about this disappointment. I mean, the problem here is that Apple intelligence is really Google intelligence. And that feels a little weird. An upgraded Siri is hardly something that gives me a lot of confidence. In fact, Siri being more intelligent, the bar was kind of low. I mean, it really doesn't do a whole lot here. I still think we're in an environment where if last week was characterized by a lot of things as far as the market goes, but including Google and Meta or at least Google raising equity, Meta maybe.

6:05Karen Finerman:The fact that Apple is not that deep into a dynamic here, also whether it's DOJ whirlings, whether it's the fact that they have more flexibility in terms of what they want to do. I actually think that the Google relationships maybe never been more important. But no, hard to dress this up as something wonderful. And the stocks had a nice move. Give something back. I stay along Apple. Price action is a lot. And, you know, Tim talked about it last week. A lot of reversals. Well, look at Apple today. Now, Gene Munster put out a note. I guess investors or traders are what Apple enthusiasts were hoping for something in September.

6:38Given the math, he thinks it's going to happen sometime next year. That's where the sell-off is. OK, so that's the explanation. But when you have a day where it traded two times normal volume, made an all-time high today, closed on the lows, and is trading lower, that doesn't set up particularly well. I think the prior all-time high was in December. At$280 ,000, I think given the enthusiasm into this and given the price action after it, I think that's where it settles in. What do they call that? Outside reversal? Look at you. Engulfing pattern, outside reversal. Climax fell. Listening is the cheapest thing you can do.

7:07What did you just say? There was a ban in the 70s. The Climax Blues Band. Climax Blues Band. Sure. I'm going to be a little more constructive on this. I think this is normal price action with these type of events. And then if you look at the user base, user base is, what,$2.5 billion still. Services are still 26 % of revenue. I shouldn't say still growing too. Margins are huge. How much money have they saved in CapEx across the – I mean, we could all just throw a dart at a dartboard, but it's billions. Maybe$20 billion a year on CapEx, conservatively. This gives them a tailwind. I'd be a buyer on it, then.

7:47I mean, they could also be waiting for a time where they deploy a lot in CapEx when they can build a model that is much more efficient.

7:53Melissa Lee:I just don't think they're going to build models. I think the days of building these frontier labs, I mean, it's over. They've all been going for the same thing. They're going for AGI. They've spent hundreds of billions of dollars. It's going to be trillions at the end of the decade. And, you know, at the end of the day, they're just not that differentiated. And, you know, one of the reasons why I think Google has been just the leader here, why Microsoft Meta can't get out of its own way, Amazon has come back to life a little bit. is just that vertical integration of the whole stack. And they obviously have GCP, which is something that a lot of this stuff is going to be powered by.

8:21Melissa Lee:The other thing that you do not hear about it, and my friend Jeff Richards over at Notable Capital brings this up a lot. I mean, 70 % of the smartphones on the planet have Android on it. Android is owned by Google. Android has already integrated a lot of Gemini. So when Tim says, you know, that relationship between Apple and Gemini or Google has never been more important, that's true. They've already demonstrated their ability to integrate that. But that doesn't mean that installed base at$2 billion is going to benefit a great deal from using basically the integrated technology of Google on their devices.

8:56Melissa Lee:Because I don't know about you guys right now. These apps work pretty well on my phone. And you can go to Claude and you can ask it to do things within your phone, within the applications, Guy. You don't have to go to a physical store to do that anymore. So, you know, to me, I think it just complicates the Apple story. I don't think there's anything saying to you that you've got to run out and buy it. But I think it is, like to Steve's point, if you do see this stock come back materially, there's only potential upside. I think that's what you're saying also, Tim.

9:23Karen Finerman:Yeah, I guess it just doesn't bother me that the story is no different than it was yesterday and that we weren't banking on tomorrow. We haven't. I don't think we have a whole lot of valuation uptick into Apple. You can make an argument it rallied into WWDC. But I don't feel as if in a world where everything that Google has done, and amazingly, Google's gone from last place to first place, at least in terms of what it seems that Gemini and at least its ability to monetize and be vital. I think we would also all say that maybe this stuff will be heavily commoditized at some point in the future.

9:56Karen Finerman:And therefore, Apple's just hanging out waiting to cut the best deal. And yes, Android is out there. But are we worried about Android now? So I don't think I think Google smartly developed Android a long time ago to ultimately support what is their core business, which is the one we're talking about. So, again, I know the company's not cheap. I think some of this is given the tape we're in. If you're in a hyper growth space, you're not going to get an Apple breakaway rally or leadership. But I think it's going to continue to perform here. Let's bring in LightShed Partners analyst Walter Pajczak.

10:26Walt went to WWDC with a neutral rating on Apple. Walt, still neutral rating? I'm sorry, I'm reading your shirt. It's a little striking shirt that you have, I guess, in anticipation of what's happening later. It's SpaceX week. Yeah, exactly. Of course, of course. Still a neutral? I mean, what was your take on what they revealed? I mean, you guys hit it pretty good. But, you know, Siri is the manifestation of AI for them. That's the agent. If you look at when the stock started selling off, is they started right when they started talking about Siri and through that entire presentation where it didn't really provide anything that encouraging to investors.

11:00That's what I think sold the stock off. We don't even know anything about timing. I think there's some debate on what exactly is going to get delivered in September. I think there was a mention of it being beta. So, this is something that has been promised year after year. I think Joanna Stern, actually go to her Twitter account, her X account, did a great breakdown on all the promises of Siri over the year. So, we'll have to test this one. My impression, just looking at it, the latency was not great. I didn't think the voice quality was that great. They talked about it being more conversational, but I think we've all used OpenAI or Claude or Grok and talked back and forth and interrupted those AI agents and had that experience.

11:42They didn't even show that today, even in a demo mode for a product that's going to come out as a beta later this year. So I don't know. It seems like the market reaction was accurate. What, if anything, do you think is Apple foregoing by not having a robust AI offering? I mean, Dan was just saying that Claude works great on his phone. I mean, is Apple somehow in the long term sacrificing services revenue if they are just the device through which you use other agents in order to book things like Uber? You don't have to have that Uber app necessarily. How is that going to work for Apple, do you think?

12:22I mean, they did start to show a little agentic stuff. They showed one demo where it was going to send an email for you. They had this other application that was separate that does complex tasks for you, but wasn't integrated into Siri. So it's just not, I think, doing that well. And I think, Dan is right. Agentic ultimately is the future. We're still not there. That's why they're still in the game, Right. Because Android, even though they're really years ahead, hasn't really moved forward with the type of agentic stuff that you were just talking about. Once that happens and if Apple's not there with it, that provides another reason for people to reconsider what their device purchases.

13:02I think Sarah Fryer from OpenAI was also talking or hinting to some of the stuff that Johnny Ive was working on in terms of other devices as well that could change the way we interact with our data and with our applications, you know, in this new AI era. So, Walt, if AI is not going to be the valuation turn in terms of getting it to that, what's going to be the thing that takes us to the next level in terms of valuation? In terms of you can say, you know what, I can justify instead of 30 times, I can justify, I don't know, 33 and a half, 34, which is a big deal for them. Well, I think multiple expansion wouldn't occur if you had a super cycle because people are really jazzed up about a foldable phone.

13:41So let's just say that could be the next catalyst for them. But let's put that aside. That's not necessarily a multiple expansion. You know, the thing is just, you know, you're generating better earnings, so you'll get a better, you know, stock price. It's always the services, right? And there was some hint to that today when they were talking about, hey, if you want to use some of our more advanced services, if you want to really do stuff with your photos, we're going to limit you. You know, what is that code for? We're going to charge you more, right? We're going to just add more fees onto your, you know, services revenue with iCloud or whatever it is.

14:14And the other question that begs is, if that additional computation is occurring, is that occurring on their compute in their private cloud? Are they sending that to Google? Or if it's in their private clouds, then does that imply there's another CapEx cycle that then is going to hit Apple because they're going to have their private models that's protecting your data that Google's helping them build? But if they're now threatening effectively to charge you more because, you know, you want to do more with your pictures than they can rate a limit you to do, then that could also imply there's some capex that's going to be associated with that as well.

14:50Or at least fees paid to Google or CoreWeave or whoever.

14:55Melissa Lee:Hey, well, I wouldn't exactly categorize this as a mic drop for Tim Cook. And obviously he's had this absolutely amazing tenure. But the last few products have really been duds. If you think about Vision Pro and what they meant to do with spatial computing and then obviously just AI, they're just tripping all over themselves here. What would you expect the new CEO? How will he imprint himself on this company? Because if you go back and you look at Tim Cook, what did he you know, he went back and said, we're going to buy back hundreds of billions of dollars of stock. We're going to pay dividends and that sort of thing.

15:25Melissa Lee:And obviously, that was great for a lot of shareholders. But it hasn't been this sort of innovative hub that we had gotten used to with the advent of the iPhone and everything that they've been able to do really until the last few years. I mean, Cook was the perfect CEO for what they needed to done. Yes, you're definitely referencing the Sherry purchase, where I agree with you. That should have been more investment in some of these technologies and some products that got left at the trash heap, like an autonomous car or whatever. But he was the person that jammed up the volume to get in China.

15:59Why is the stock up whatever it was since last quarter? The phones that they're selling to China, because he knew how to manage that relationship, not only to make phones there, but to allow their product to continue to get purchased in volume. So that was the right CEO for the time. What we argued a year ago was exactly your point. You needed a product CEO. Hopefully, Ternus is the guy. We're not going to see that those changes, you know, right away. But that was the right, you know, the right change to make. Now, look, when I said that at the time, everyone's like, oh, you know, no way. Cook's going to be here for five years.

16:32And it was less than a year. And they made that change because I think, you know, everyone, whether it's Tim Cook realizing this internally or just you knew the direction of the company that we are in the new AI era. We have guys spending$750 billion on compute. There had to be a change and hopefully turn this in the right direction. Well, great to get your take. Thank you, Walter Pajczek. We've got some breaking news that we want to get to. Kate Rooney has that. Kate. Hey, Melissa. So OpenAI has confidentially filed to go public. This is setting the stage for what could be one of the biggest IPOs in history.

17:07The AI giant just saying in a press release, a blog post, I should say, quote, we expect that this is going to leak. So we're just announcing it. We have not decided, they say, on timing yet. And they say there are also things they want to do that are likely easier to do as a private company, but it is a complicated set of trade-offs. This gives us, quote, the option to go public sooner if that ends up being best. So leaving the door open there, the SEC filing does come days before, of course, Elon Musk's SpaceX is set to start trading. And just a week after its biggest competitor, Anthropic, also filed confidentially with the SEC.

17:40I have spoken to sources, guys, who say this could come as soon as September. It's going to depend on market conditions from what we're hearing and obviously OpenAI saying that as well. Investors do also tell me there is some pressure to get ahead of Anthropic in all of this. I'm also hearing that OpenAI is eyeing an employee tender coming up in the next couple of weeks, potentially months, to alleviate that need to go public for any sort of liquidity reasons. OpenAI was last valued at$850 billion in private markets, guys. But the IPO parade is very much kicking off here. OpenAI is sort of the last to get this filing and at least when you look at anthropic and obviously spacex underway here but back over to you all right kate thank you kate rooney i mean the drain in terms of all the money going into these new issues in one calendar year away from theoretically something else in the market i don't know what is that what is it something else like last week it appeared with semiconductors until you come back today and then you see the rally on the back of marvell's announcement so i don't know where the money's coming out of, or maybe there's just money on the sidelines waiting.

18:42I don't know, but it's going to be, for me, let's see how SpaceX trades. Elon Musk has set the price like Billy Ray Valentine did years ago. We'll see how well it trades in the aftermath of that.

18:53Karen Finerman:I like how you said semiconductors as opposed to semiconductors. That was not lost on me or our viewers. What's also not lost on me or our viewers is that there's a race to beat someone else out here. And we live in a world where both these companies have had no access to lack of funding in the private markets. And it almost makes me wonder why we are rushing to market here, especially in a world where that private market exclusivity has actually been something that I think has enhanced their valuations at a time when markets are all time highs. I kind of get it. At the same time, why are you rushing to sell something?

19:26Karen Finerman:It really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And I've been around markets a long time. I mean, it's a dynamic that everything they want exists in the private markets, their access to capital. You can make an argument. It's been easier to get to capital. It's been easier to get to a better valuation. If you're saying we want our employees to cash out, there are all kinds of structures out there to get them liquidity. So I just wonder why three companies are rushing to market really fast. It seems like everybody has gotten a look at this and the opportunity to invest, except for the retail investor who will be the last ones in.

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19:58Yeah. I mean, over the course of our careers, though, we've seen more companies be taken private, right? We've seen the shrinking amount of public companies. These are just monster companies that are going public right now. So I think they have monster goals. That's why they're going public. But I think they're spacing them perfectly September and December, right? So I think it gives the market good enough time or plenty enough time to reestablish, but look for those mega cap stocks to be sold off as the bank.

20:28Melissa Lee:Yeah, I just say, Tim, and I know you know this, I mean, they can't hit the debt.

20:33Karen Finerman:I'm ready. I'm ready.

20:35Melissa Lee:No, but they have if you look at the Mag 7. I know you know.

20:38Karen Finerman:I know you know this, but I'm just well, the Mag 7.

20:41Melissa Lee:They have seven hundred billion dollars at least of debt on their balance sheets. Right. So they come into the public markets. It gives them a lot more flexibility. It gives them flexibility as far as M &A and all this sort of stuff. So I think that's part of it. I think they've raised a lot of equity. I think the bigger concern is Meta coming to market. Google coming to market. These aren't big numbers for them and their balance sheets, but it's important to understand that they need to raise this capital for them to continue to grow and monetize those investments so they think the more money they plow in now and the more ability, I guess the better ability they have to fund it right now is really going to be the story.

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23:22Among the winners, Baker Hughes, Halliburton, SLB, ConocoPhillips, also seeing outsized gains, the moves coming even as oil prices settle off their day's highs. Iran saying its military strikes against Israel are over, but it did warn it would resume if the attacks against Lebanon persisted. You guys have been big fans of oil for a while. You've got to continue to be. Again, I think it's regardless of underlying price, which, by the way, I do think will go higher. You've got to be loaning these stocks. I mean, if we flatline, even go down a few dollars in crude oil, which is potentially likely in the coming weeks, oil stocks are by here.

23:54Valuations, balance sheets, all the things that Tim talks about. And the fact that people are just waking up to the fact that, hey, wait a second, this is one of the more interesting sectors in a world that we currently live in. So I like these energy names.

24:05Karen Finerman:Well, you're getting some interesting price action. And chart-wise, SLB is about to break through that three-year high. I remember the sneaky rally we had in the energy market three years ago that a lot of people weren't part of. We're now actually seeing earnings potential and the margin profile of SLB begin to start to see where people would contemplate where it was in 2016, 2017 when drilling and everything offshore. By the way, you talk about innovation and high tech. SLB is so far in front of the head of the class on this. And I think it's a time when countries and companies are going to have to try harder than ever to have energy security.

24:42Why have most of the gains for the sector, though, taken place prior to the war? I mean, why are we sort of stalled in terms of you to look at the chart of the XLE, right, since the war began? Pretty much flat. Yeah, because I think it was an efficient season. They had a change of administrations where they were going for alternatives and then back into fossil fuels. So I think it was front loaded to a large extent. You have to really look for when earnings have really maxed out for that period to see when the sector is going to roll over. Think about this, though. If the war ended tomorrow, 20 to 25 percent of our exports are going to Asia and Europe in the form of LNG and in fossil fuels.

25:21If that war ends, we're going to have a glut here. All that production probably comes back home. WTI probably falls off a bit. You know, I get that stocks can hang in there, but they do take their lead from the from the overall commodity. So I'd be careful on buying buy them in steps.

25:39Karen Finerman:Yeah, really quick. I just think oil services are the ones that really kind of rallied before or were already in a good trend, but actually get sold off because most a lot of that business is in the Middle East. I mean, there's no question they immediately had a hit. Whereas I think the integrators were I think they've integrators have outperformed since the war. And I think they will because of the war. There's a lot more fast money to come. Here's what's coming up next. Check your rear view. Truckers are coming in hot. The shipping stocks speeding to records. and whether the wheels can keep spinning on this trade.

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28:09The trucking company has gained nearly 25 percent in the past month and is up almost 60 percent this year. Other freight companies like J.B. Hunt and XP Logistics have also seen outsized gains in 2026. Steve, you've been watching this. Yeah. So while the rest of the world was looking at the investment communities, looking at semis and looking at tech, These have quietly rallied back. And J.B. Hunt signaled back at the beginning of April that the freight recession was over. They had 12 consecutive quarters quarters of negative revenues. That's over now. And Old Dominion has rallied on the back of that.

28:44Old Dominion is considered best in class, best margins, free cash flow. I'd look for these to continue to rally even harder. Are these asset light or asset heavy in general? Well, Old Dominion is a partial freight carrier. J.B. Hunt's a different operator on that extent, but it's a much smoother chart when you're looking at the chart, specifically on those two charts. But when you look at it less than a freight or less than a tank load or whatever it's called. Tank load. Truck load. CSX, Tim talks about the rail. CSX, I think, made an all-time high today. I mean, valuations start to get stretched for some of these names.

29:27But you know what? You think about what they're moving around the country, iron ore or chemicals, coal, all those different things. It works in this environment. Regardless of what you think of the economy, there's a lot of stuff going on on the rails as well. I can't. Actually, there was a period where it was thought that I would disrupt trucking, but they can't really.

29:46Karen Finerman:I think trucking strong. By the way, FedEx is spinning out FedEx freight. I think this is a really interesting story. It is, again, they're going to be focused on less than truckload or smaller trucks in a case where I think the pricing power is enormous. I think also in the past, they had underperformed peers in terms of margin. That's part of the turnarounds that's expected. I think you could nibble on that one. Remember that song, Tim, about the truckers with the convoy? Yeah, that was Convoy, I think. It was by C.W. McCall, I believe, back in 75. News you really don't need to use. No, but that was important.

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30:43Welcome back to Fast Money Stocks. Mixed to start the week after Friday's big sell-off. The Nasdaq gaining nearly nine-tenths of a percent. The S &P up three-tenths of a percent. But the Dow down fractionally, falling 80 points. Intel jumping more than 11 percent today after a report that Google had tapped the chipmaker to supply over three million tensor processing units, TPUs. The move, though, doesn't even get shares back to where they close on Thursday. And Bitcoin bouncing back above the 60 ,000 level after hitting nearly two-year lows on Friday. Strategy buying$100 million worth of the token over the past week after news that had sold sparked last week's crypto sell-off.

31:18Those shares were up over 5 % today. I don't know. What did you make of the Intel news? I thought the Intel move was interesting.

31:25Karen Finerman:What I think is interesting is the move that we had going into Friday's sell-off, meaning absurd. And then Friday, yes, in terms of relative underperformance, there's all kinds of stats out today. But worst relative performance to the S &P in five years, it was a five-standard deviation event. I didn't know there was such a thing. And it is a case where just the positioning going into this created the extreme that we had, on top of the fact that you had Broadcom, CrowdStrike, a couple other people really kind of disappoint in terms of their guide on top of the Google and the meta news. So not a great end of the week that was looking for that record 10th week.

32:01Karen Finerman:That's what I would chalk up Intel's bounce to. Intel does not belong at this valuation, but hasn't seemed to bother. Could you imagine a better ATM than Intel for these IPOs that are coming out? It has a massive run. Take it off the table. Pop into some of these IPOs. I think you've seen a near-term lid on Intel. But if you list out all the deals that they've gotten with the new CEO, it is pretty incredible that Pat was there for so long. And, I mean, I hope he has a ton of stock and he got paid on it. But to look back in the rearview mirror and see the deals that have gotten done in your absence probably is a kick in the gut.

32:43It is amazing to think that less than a year ago, Intel's foundry business was being written down in terms of value, that there were real questions about whether or not that foundry business was worth anything. And now they're making TPUs for Google. It was a viable conversation to have at the time. Yeah. $21 stock headed in the wrong direction. Their data center business was a disaster compared to some of their rivals. and people were leaving it for dead. Rightly so. You know, we talked about at the time as a homeland security play, maybe we'll get to$33, which it did. It shouldn't be at$110.

33:15You got to start doing the valuation game at some point and say, OK, wait a second, maybe 80 times for Intel doesn't make sense. Maybe it should be more like 50 times. But even at 50 times, there's still a significant sell-off here. So I think the stock has 75 bucks written all over it.

33:28Melissa Lee:I think that the fact that the stock is willing to value a deal in 2028 where Intel is going to be able to manufacture, what's the number here, 3 million TPUs. 3 million. That's laughable. I mean, this is a company, you talk about Pat Gelsinger, they have basically misexecuted on every major shift that's gone on in technology for the last 15 years. So if you're buying this now based on, we saw this with Oracle, and I know it's apples to oranges, but you can have all the orders that you want, your ability to execute and create the infrastructure to deliver is another story. And more of these deals, more and more, when you think about this Anthropic deal and you think about, you know, what Google just did with SpaceX or XAI's compute, they have 90 days to cancel these contracts.

34:14Melissa Lee:And they can be immediate, OK, immediate if they don't deliver on what they're expected to do by that date. So if you're telling me you as an investor want to give these companies some multiple on the revenue in the future, well, that's actually the history does not show in the stock market, specifically in tech that can be very cyclical, that that's a great way to invest. Friday's near 6 percent drop in the S &P tech sector is an exceedingly rare occurrence. The chartmaster pointing out a 5 percent or more pullback has happened in just one out of every 162 trading sessions going back to 1989.

34:491989. That's about 0.6 percent of the time. And even with today's gains of a percent and a half, Carter Worth is advising clients that it is time to hedge bets on technology. So in that context, hash investors take a look at today's rebound. Let's ask Kate Moore, chief investment officer at Citi Wealth. Kate, great to see you. Hi, Melissa. Great to see you as well. I mean, in semiconductors in particular, it was a bona fide correction that happened on Friday. I mean, what do you make of the sort of bounce back, maybe lack of bounce back that we saw today? Look, it was a very tepid recovery today.

35:23I think we can all agree on that. But I think last time I was on with you, I used the word uncomfortable like three or four times when talking about the relentless move upward in the market, despite incredibly strong fundamentals. So let me say this. I see no degradation in the fundamentals and, in fact, a broader macro backdrop that is actually really quite supportive for a broad range of sectors. That said, you know, it did feel like the market was getting a little bit ahead of itself and that it was looking for an excuse, a pause to breathe. And so I think that's what we saw at the end of last week, the digestion of the payroll numbers.

35:56We already knew that the economy was in good shape. I'm not sure the labor market data alone justified the move. But I do think we're going to see more of these sort of consolidation moves in the market. It doesn't leave me stepping away from tech, though. I think this is really important. This is where the largest earnings are coming in 2026 into 2027. And I'm a fundamentally driven investor. Well, are you more comfortable today after the pullback on Friday? I mean, what level do you want to see in order to be comfortable getting in? Yeah, look, I'm less uncomfortable, frankly, now that we've had a little bit of this digestion.

36:32And in fact, I think we're going to have more of that over the course of the next couple of months as everyone processes, you know, what we'll see in terms of inflation. Obviously, this week is a very big week for macro data, how the Fed might react in terms of language next week, not in action, and how the market sort of prices in the risks of consumer-led growth slowdown in the second half. That's not our base case, but I'm just saying there's a lot of reasons for people to kind of pull back risk and to make excuses. And of course, you were talking about this large volume of IPOs that are going to attract a huge amount of investor attention over the next few weeks and months.

37:08I expect that could be a distraction as well and lead to some volatility. But it's not bad news. A little vol is good for those of us that like to be taking advantage of dips.

37:16Karen Finerman:Hey, Kate, in terms of just judging the sentiment value of meeting with your clients on all the things and the fundamentals that you're talking about, I'm just kind of curious based upon, again, because we are talking about a move that I think from Friday was based upon the positioning coming in. How skittish would you say the institutional base that you're talking to regularly is here, or are they not? And therefore, nothing has changed. Yeah. You know, one of the things that has been true throughout the course of 2026 and this relentless March higher actually has been, since those March lows, has been that people are still holding a lot of cash.

37:50I mean, there is a lot of sense of, I got to have some dry powder in case there's a better opportunity, or they're waiting for a deal, or they were concerned around the broadening of the economic and macro impacts from the war with Iran and the secondary and tertiary impacts of higher energy prices, those we kind of agree with. But there have been a myriad of excuses that the investors that we've talked to, from the institutional to the very sophisticated individual, have used to hold more cash. So I don't think people were all in on the market, despite the kind of nine weeks up we had in a row.

38:21And they're going to kind of take a look now and see how sustainable is a little bit of weakness. Do we get continued rotation out of semis into some other areas of the market? And if that's sustainable, is it an opportunity for them to add. I just don't think anyone's made a decision. I would just classify overall sentiment as, yeah, kind of tepid. Kate, thank you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Kate Moore of Citi, you feeling tepid or uncomfortable? I don't know what that means, so I don't know how to answer the question. Mech. I wake up that way most days. Listen, I think fundamentals haven't changed.

38:57Technicals have. And there was a lot of technical damage done last week. Today did nothing to change My view, I thought today was marginal at best. The Bitcoin bounced, but not nearly to the extent that it probably should have on the back of the sailor news. So I still think the structural damage in the market last week has had some long-term ramifications. I do think it's pretty impressive that we're not really – we haven't talked about rates once during the show. And that was the premier, the main focus for market participants. I didn't really hear Kate become too occupied with it either. That means to me the market can probably go higher as long as earnings stay intact.

39:32But should we do a little give and take? Of course we should. But with the sell-off we saw last week, I think it was enough for us to move into SpaceX pretty strong. Coming up, what to expect from SpaceX's blockbuster IPO this Friday and what history tells us about what stocks do after their market debuts. The details when Fast Money returns.

39:59Cerebra shares up 18 % today, their best day since the company's IPO last month. The stock gained nearly 70 % on its first day of trading, but closed Friday 48 % below its intraday high. That got us thinking about the next big IPO on the docket. Of course, that's SpaceX, which is expected to start trading here at the Nasdaq on Friday. Anticipation is high for this offering, but what should investors expect from the stock? CNBC's Seema Modi has been crunching the numbers on the performance of some recent IPO. Seema, what have you found? OK, so we have been digging through the numbers and IPOs that witnessed a big one day pop tend to, on average, underperform the broader market by more than eight points over the following three years.

40:35It's according to data from Jay Ritter. Even in the short term, it's difficult for companies that have a blockbuster debut to keep the momentum going. Take a look at Alibaba, Coinbase, DoorDash, Snowflake, which saw an over 100 percent gain on its first day. All these names underperformed six months later. Even companies that defined a new market category like Uber with ride hailing, despite all the fanfare, shares closed down 7 % on its first day, and Uber continued to trade down in the following months. There are outliers, Palantir, Arm Holdings, big gains on the first day, traded higher during the same six-month time frame.

41:10And of course, lock-up expirations, the path to profitability, market dynamics, they all play a role. But on average, big one-day pops, Melissa, are usually a warning sign, With SpaceX, it'll be really interesting given that Fidelity and Charles Schwab are reinforcing these rules to discourage short-term selling. If you do in the first 15 days, you can be banned from participating in future IPO deals. For Arm and Palantir, weren't they profitable for longer as private companies? Exactly. That's why the profile picture, the profitability picture really plays a role in sometimes dictating the performance of a lot of these companies and how they do over time.

41:44And, of course, setting the IPO price at 135, maybe that eliminates some of that pop, which characterizes some of those IPOs that have underperformed in the time afterwards.

41:54Melissa Lee:It's not likely. I mean, to get the allocation that you want, if you're an institution, you're going to have to give a big aftermarket order. And you're seeing, like, multi-billion dollar orders. And, again, there's going to be a$75 billion offering. The one thing I'd say is that Jensen Wang, I think, last week said something about this being a generational opportunity to buy these IPOs. And it's really funny because if these IPOs come and they don't work, well, they're going to be buying less GPUs. Right. So there's a lot of hype going around here. You know, the fact that J.P. J.P. Morgan, CEO, you know, is hawking this deal.

42:26Melissa Lee:I mean, it's one thing if you're a banker. It's one thing if you're, you know, an equity research analyst. But the fact that a CEO who's not even the lead or co-lead on this deal, I just think there's a lot of folks that need this stuff to work. And that's not always how it happens. You know, so I don't know, man. And, like, this one seems like if you're retail and you're paying up after the thing opens, I just think that's probably a bad way to invest.

42:48Karen Finerman:Palantir was a really trendy IPO back in the day of the company that was making money. And this was a name that you had plenty of time to buy. In fact, you had plenty of time to buy it. It wants to go from$23 down to$7 or$8. I don't know that you have to chase SpaceX, even though I think a lot of people want to stay there in the deal. Seema, thank you, Seema Modi. Coming up, all the headlines from the American Diabetes Association conference. the latest on Lilly and Novo's next-gen weight loss drugs and the impact it's having on the stocks. More Fast Money in two.

43:20Welcome back to Fast Money. The American Diabetes Association's annual scientific sessions are wrapping up today in New Orleans. And GLP-1 heavyweights Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk are moving in opposite directions despite broadly positive readouts. For more on what's driving this action, let's turn to Angelica Peebles. Angelica. Hey, Melissa. Well, it was a very busy weekend, and Lilly's Reda True Tide stole the show because it produced the most dramatic weight loss that we've seen to date. So one doctor in her presentation, she posed three questions at the end. Is bigger always better? Is bigger always needed?

43:49And is bigger always right? And the answer, no, no, and no, she said. But that doesn't mean that it does not have a place. It might just be a smaller group. So Lilly's CEO, Dave Ricks, telling me that he thinks that doctors initially will reserve Reda for higher body weight patients, at least initially. We also saw data from several other potential newcomers, including Pfizer. That company presented results from an experimental shot from its$10 billion acquisition of MetSara. And when given monthly, barobinatide produced up to 16 percent weight loss. And the presenters praised the tolerability, but not everyone was convinced.

44:21And one prominent doctor actually came up to the mic, said he flat out disagreed with that review. And the doctor who reviewed the data showed a slide of the dozens of drugs that could be available in 2029. That's around the time when that drug might launch. And that's the challenge with all these newcomers is that you saw it with Zeeland and Beringer-Ingelheim, shot, servodutide, and pills from Structure Therapeutics and AstraZeneca. Lilly and Novo just have such a head start. And even Novo is facing questions about the pipeline. And Novo also announced this weekend that Wagovi pill prescription reached$3 million.

44:53And I asked Novo CEO Mike Dustar what it will take to get credit from investors. And he said time. So that's a challenge for all of these companies, Melissa. All right. Angelica, thank you. Angelica Peebles. Novo, you have that. Yeah.

45:10Karen Finerman:To me, Lilly is showing that sentiment-wise and in terms of where you have the trials and what the data shows, even a small amount, either of tolerability or efficacy or just percentage weight loss, they dominate. And they dominate even though Nova arguably, I think, has more market share and the bar is lower. I still would own Novo here. That's not been a winning trade. David Ricks is just doing a better job telling the story. I mean, it's flat. I mean, the Novo CEO can talk about time. It's not about time at this point. It's about telling the story better because if you overlay the two charts over the last three years, it's now no longer a two-horse race.

45:48It is a one. This is Secretariat in the Belmont Stakes. Now, I don't think it should be that easy. I think Novo is value here, but they're clearly not telling the story properly. All right. Up next, final trades.

46:09Time for the final trade, Timbo.

46:12Karen Finerman:So let's go New York Knicks. It's a big night in New York City. And if you're not watching the Knicks, you might want to be looking at EEM, emerging markets. Stephen. Cerebris. I think the marquee gave you a nice little pull back there, willing to dip it up. Dan? Tim, you know this.

46:27Melissa Lee:The hyperscalers act very poorly. And I don't know why you'd want to buy zoinks. The semis give it poorly, Tim. And you know this. Not a buyer of the SMU. What are the chances you'll be watching any portion of this game this evening, Melissa? 5%. That's high. That's more than usual. That's super high. So disappointing. Hal Burton. Go Knicks. Thanks for watching Fast Mad Money Starts right now.

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