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Podcast Notes: CNBC's "Fast Money" - Nvidia Beats Big and Surprises with a Stock Split and Dividend (5/22/24)
Episode Overview
- Hosts: Melissa Lee, Tim Seymour, Karen Feinerman, Courtney Garcia, Brian B. K. Kelly
- Key Topics:
- Nvidia's earnings report
- Stock split announcement
- Dividend increase
- Retail sector performance
- Cryptocurrency market insights
Nvidia Earnings Highlights
- Performance:
- Nvidia reported significant beats on both earnings and revenue.
- Q1 revenue reached $26 billion, matching expectations.
- Q2 guidance was raised to $28 billion, with margin expectations in the mid-70s.
- Stock Split:
- Nvidia announced a 10-for-1 stock split, effective June 6.
- The split aims to make shares more accessible to retail investors.
- Dividend Increase:
- The quarterly dividend was raised by 150%, signaling company confidence in financial health.
- Revenue Drivers:
- Data center revenue surged by 427% year-over-year, now contributing 40% from cloud service providers.
- Increased diversification into sectors such as automotive, healthcare, and enterprise AI.
Analyst Insights
- Christina Parts Nevelis:
- Highlights the strong demand for data center products and the shift away from reliance solely on cloud service providers.
- Noted that Nvidia is seeing new customers beyond traditional tech sectors.
- Karen Feinerman:
- Praised Jensen Huang for adeptly managing investor expectations and highlighted the importance of demand for Nvidia’s upcoming products.
- Tim Seymour:
- Emphasized the need for Nvidia to maintain strong demand through the transition to upcoming chips.
- Stressed the significance of investor confidence in Nvidia’s future growth.
Retail Sector Analysis
- Target vs. TJX:
- Target reported disappointing earnings, with significant drop in shares as consumer spending shifts towards value retailers like TJX.
- The discussion pointed to inflationary concerns affecting discretionary spending.
Broader Market Implications
- Brian Kelly on Crypto:
- Discussed the potential impact of ETF approvals on Ethereum and the crypto market.
- Positive sentiment surrounding a change in regulatory environment, with optimism for a more favorable landscape for cryptocurrencies.
Key Takeaways
- Nvidia's robust earnings and strategic moves (stock split, dividend increase) signal strong market positioning.
- Demand for Nvidia's chips is likely to persist with new revenue streams developing across various sectors.
- Retail sector dynamics are shifting, with consumers gravitating towards value-oriented brands amid inflation.
- Developments in the crypto space could shift significantly based on upcoming regulatory decisions, particularly regarding Ethereum.
Conclusion The episode provided a comprehensive analysis of Nvidia's strong financial performance and growth prospects, the contrasting fortunes of retail giants, and shifting dynamics in the crypto market. Melissa Lee and the panel offered actionable insights for investors looking to navigate these trends.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Live from the Nasdaq marketside in the heart of New York City's Times Square, this is Fast Money. Here's what's on tap tonight. Splitsville for NVIDIA. The company announcing a surprise 10 for one stock split alongside big beats on the top and the bottom lines. We've got full team coverage of the results and are bringing you all the trades. Plus, missing the target. Shares of the retailer sinking to nearly four month lows while rivals like TJX soar. Why can't the company seem to catch up to its competitors? And later, the chartmaster says Goldman Sachs is losing its shine. Pfizer soars on cost-cutting plans, and Starbucks notches its best day since last November.
0:36We're diving into all of today's fast money movers. I'm Melissa Lee coming to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ. On the desk tonight, Tim Seymour, Karen Feinerman, Courtney Garcia, and look who's back for this hour, the Bitcoin baller himself, Brian B.K. Kelly. Great to have you back here. Great to be back. And we start off with the most anticipated earnings report of the season. NVIDIA shares at all-time highs after posting a top and bottom line beat for KeyOne. Guidance for the current quarter also coming in above expectations. The chip giant also announcing a 10-for-1 stock split and a dividend hike.
1:07The conference call just kicking off moments ago. Christina Parts of Nevelis is here to break down the quarter. Hey, Christina. Hi. Well, investors got what they wanted. Earnings beat, like you said, revenues actually matching buy-side expectations of$26 billion for Q1. Same for the Q2 revenue guide, came in at$28 billion. Even Q2 margins are expected to drop to mid-70s, exactly what the company had warned about in the previous call. So overall, the company's fundamentals still intact. You saw that with the beat in the numbers, but they do match buy side expectations, which is why you're not seeing as much of a stock reaction.
1:39Data center revenue, though, was the main driver. Record sales. You zoom out on the year and that shows data center revenues up four hundred and twenty seven percent. CEO Jensen Wong saying customers have moved beyond cloud service providers, which, by the way, contributed 40 percent to data center revenues. news, but now they have internet companies as customers, enterprise, sovereign AI, auto, as well as healthcare. The cherry on top, like you talked about, was the 10 for one stock split. Effective investors will actually get nine additional shares after market close on June 6th. The company also announcing its quarterly dividend by 150 % increase.
2:15All of this is talking about the company giving money back to the shareholders, employees, investors, et cetera. So a big beat, and then I'm going to get back on the call. Yeah, Christina, before you go, were you talking about revenues attributed to cloud data centers and it moving away, diversifying? Yes. So previously, the last quarter in Q4, 50 % of revenues came from cloud service providers. Now this quarter in the CFO commentary that is on their website, 40%. So you're seeing that number decrease. And instead, in the press release, Jensen Wang is saying that it's including now Internet companies, enterprise, sovereign AI, which they've talked about quite a bit, auto and health care.
2:54So they're getting more verticals, as they put it. Christina, thanks. Keep us posted on the call. Christina Parts Nevelis for us. So what do we make of this quarter if the stock is up 4 percent after hours? Karen. Yeah, so the bar was really high and they did a nice job of stepping over the bar. Jensen Wang, beside being just brilliant and building a company that is at the forefront of AI, is also really good at managing the street. That's sort of, I think he views that as the other part of his job. We haven't heard from him. He started at 5 o 'clock. The stock split, the dividend thing, I don't think it really matters, but the stock split, obviously, you could have now a whole host of other investors that have sort of been shut out.
3:33So he's doing a great job managing. Again, he's in the business of under-promise, over-deliver. and I really want to hear about what kind of demand he's seeing. That to me is, as soon as the earnings come out, they're irrelevant. We see it, we know the number, okay, did it beat, did it not? Okay, how does it look? What does the rest of the story look like? And the commentary in terms of the transition from Hopper, which is their current chip, to their new chip, which is, you know, will be on sale later this year, that's going to be key if there's Ray Blackwell, if there's going to be any sort of holding back in anticipation of the launch of that new chip.
4:06You know, she said the bar was cleared. I think this was a big fan of the show, a Dick Fosbury, in other words, of the Fosbury flop. This was no flop. But in other words, he he he got over a big bar. That was why he invented the flop. But NVIDIA, if you think about the 27 percent run into the numbers, if you think about the data center growth, if you think about where I think they actually are going to hit, they've guided on the 75 percent margin. So there's no there's no problem with that. What we've also heard throughout the last month and a half is that the hyperscalers are growing their CapEx 35 percent.
4:40It was only, you know, 8 percent or so last year. So this is the demand is there. Demand is there. And certainly the new segments. And as we get into other parts of the business, it is what we're hearing more about. It is about autos. It is about CPU. And so you want to know where that demand is coming from. You want to know where the entire platform allows them to kind of have this circular, you know, reinforced dynamic. I think I think it's all here. This to me is a huge relief for the market. And we'll get into that. But but I mean, the fact that, you know, four percent move, I think this stock split is very important, even though we all know means zero, except for it means something.
5:15Yeah. But I mean, listen, they go up. Right. That's exactly the point. So, I mean, when I go about an ice cream cone, they don't ask me, did you get this money from a stock split or not? They still take my dollars and it goes up. So what what does it matter? But I think in these earnings, right, if there's anything, any knock at all that you see in this, it's probably the gaming sector, which is a tiny, tiny little sector. And everything else is looking good. So I don't know what else you would want from this. It is a beat. Now, as the trader perspective, I want to see this thing trade up and close through 975 tomorrow, which it's doing now.
5:45But we still have the CEO to speak. And I want to see it close there at the end of the day. And that will give me a heck of a lot of confidence that the momentum is continuing higher. Yeah, and I think what's really important here was that demand story, right? Everybody thought that you were going to see a weakening in demand as we're waiting for Blackwell to come out. But they came out and said not only is demand strong, but demand is accelerating. And so I think it's going to be interesting to see what they say when they're speaking later. But I think that's very indicative that this has a lot of room to continue to run.
6:09Because as long as the demand is there, and it clearly is, that's absolutely going to benefit in NVIDIA. The implication, too, of revenues coming more away from data center is that all these other parts of business are, in fact, growing. I mean, that is sort of the tailwind that we are waiting for. It's not just the hyperscale. Other people, other enterprises are also investing in AI at the same pace. So you want to see that sort of go down the chain, so to speak, in terms of companies. And it will. And think about all the places where we invested in NVIDIA even before we knew what they were doing in AI.
6:40Or maybe we knew it. But, you know, and I would get into the industrial usage. And I think it's a really exciting place. It's where it gets exciting for other people, too. They're also known to be in the auto space for the chips. And, you know, you can talk about whoever it is, whether it's, you know, Qualcomm or. And you also think about the memory chips. And we've seen the move, of course, in the impact in, say, a micron, et cetera. So this supports the trade. That kind of commentary supports the entire trade that's broadening this market. And again, to me, this is a huge relief for people that wanted to hold in the market.
7:10We'll talk about FedMints in a little bit. But for people that wanted to buy NVIDIA and a lot of people still wanted to buy Weakness, they're happy that actually, you know, or people that just recently bought it. This is reinforcing the story. Just one other thing. So the top line was better. The gross margin was better. Also, their expenses were better. So a lot of great things going on at the same time. And, you know, the diversification you talked about in terms of who their customers, that's a really good thing. A lot of great things here. And it's giving a lift to a lot of the other AI players right now.
7:38The whole complex. Exactly. The whole complex. AMD is up. What is it? One percent right now. We also super micro hire. Dell. Dell. Your Dell. I like Dell. Well, thank you. We'll see. It's been good. It's trading higher. But this is validation that all these other plays and the concentric circles in terms of AI. It's not just the chip makers anymore, but there is enough to go on here for software, et cetera. Maybe now is the time where we'll see that sort of transfer. Right. And it's expanding even outside of tech. Right. So just after the closed News Corp now announced that they're going to have a deal with open AI.
8:08Right. Stocks up a couple percent there. So the theme of AI eating the world, changing every single business out there continues. use. And I think that's really good for the market because there was a lot of concern today with the market where it's been, with the expectations where they've been. We will talk about the FOMC, but that could have really derailed this market if there was even the slightest miss or even just kind of a baseline. Oh, it got there and it was OK. But this is this is what the market needed. So the question then arises, at what point do you start turning back on an NVIDIA and putting it into something else?
8:43If AI is in fact eating the world and we We are seeing proof of it, not just through NVIDIA's quarters, but through the earnings that we've already gotten so far this quarter. Yeah, and you definitely don't want to bet against an NVIDIA or AI. Like, it's absolutely a play you want to be in. But if you haven't made changes to your portfolio, you are going to be overexposed there. And I don't think it's a bad time to take some profits and add to other areas. So you're talking about all these other things that are going to benefit from AI. We haven't talked about the energy play. So you have things like coffer and energy, and that's like this whole other industry that is going to completely benefit from the structural changes in artificial intelligence.
9:15And it's a really good valuation to add here. So I am not getting out of it. But, yeah, taking some profits, taking advantage of these other opportunities, you absolutely want to look at that. Yeah, Dell reports, I think it is next week, actually. And Citi just had a very bullish note out yesterday saying that we're going to see Dell top estimates, even though they are very high right now. And the stock has virtually doubled so far this year. Yeah, I mean, and it's not crazy expensive. Now, a lot of things are converging at the same time for Dell. obviously this nvidia relationship storage servers but also you have enterprise spend coming back and and i think we're going to see a stronger pc quicker and stronger pc refresh than we have as they become ai native where the co-pilot you know a button is on it and so there's a lot of great things happening and i think they're just going to be generating a ton of cash yeah i think you have a case here where uh not only the the market dynamics are are reinforced but i think you you've given life to some of those industrial plays.
10:12This is only going to reinforce a margin story across it. I think if you think about what we wanted to hear from this company, first of all, there is still a lot to digest over the next couple of days. I think there are a lot of people that really were hoping that this was going to be a tough number. I think people wanted this opportunity to buy it weaker. And this is almost the event. I don't think people right now, again, the stocks move. This is almost a nonchalant move. It was a year ago when we really first started getting blown away by NVIDIA's numbers. And if you think about this move today, based upon those numbers, I think it's good news, not bad.
10:43I mean, one could almost make the argument that this move in the after-hour session is all stock split. I mean, you know, because if it's sort of, it stepped over the bar, you use the, who is that gentleman? Fosbury, Mr. Fosbury, Mr. Dick Fosbury. Dwight Jones here, Dwight Jones. He's watching right now. That doesn't speak to, you know, a blowout quarter here. Well, but if the bar is that high, that's my point. I mean, Dick Posbar, he got over some very high bars with a very unique style of doing the. He wore a black jacket and jeans everywhere he went. Yes. But I'll just say this about the multiple for NVIDIA relative to the market.
11:22It gets back to always on some level valuation. And I know these numbers are ones you can play around with with a stock that's moved this much. But NVIDIA is trading at about 1.7 times the S &P multiple, which is very cheap to its 10-year average. So, you know, it's not like it's really expensive. I would make that argument. Yeah, and if you have this type of growth, I think, again, you could probably trim some and talk about the other things you want to do. One more I would add in there is Apple, right? If they're going to refresh their phones and their computers with AI native, then that's going to be in a completely different story there.
11:54But, I mean, you know, again, Apple's up a bit. We're not the first people to discover this. I'd probably be a buyer Apple like around 180 on that news. All right. Let's get more on Nvidia with Chris Rolland, senior semiconductor analyst at Susquehanna. Chris, great to have you with us. What's your take on this quarter? What are the questions you still have in your mind for the conference call? Yeah, I think you guys covered it really well. This was just a little bit better than buy side expectations with that stock split for the retail crowd to get them going as well. Um, we are all as analysts focused on really the last two quarters of the year.
12:30And it's then this transition to B100 and GB200. That's really what matters here. These are really compelling products. From a price performance standpoint, they're super compelling. They're better than H100 and H200. From a power perspective, these guys are bringing in liquid cooling. So from an energy perspective, it's going to use less. And we're just worried about a potential little gap in Q3, Q4 for NVIDIA. That would be our biggest worry. And anything they would say on the call to alleviate that would be helpful. So the company in the press release tried to make the case that they're seeing demand actually accelerate despite this transition that's to come later on this year.
13:17You think, though, if there are any hiccups in terms of companies holding back and waiting for that Blackwell offering, that it won't happen until the second half? Yes, that's right. Right now, they're being helped by the H100 to H200 transition, where they get twice as much memory. will have B100 later in the year and any delays in the GH to a GB200 product in 2025, that would increase the probabilities of that kind of revenue gap that we're talking about. So that's how we're thinking about it. Chris, it's Karen. Thanks for being on. So what are you seeing for H200 pricing? And how do you think that evolves?
14:01How do you think that plays out as people look to switch later? Yeah, this is really all about memory and NVIDIA passing those margins, those memory margins on to their customer. For us, gross margins were good, perhaps a little bit light. Maybe they weren't able to pass on all of that memory cost up that we would have expected. Probably not in the 80 % range that they get for typical data center products. But so far, H200, the transition looks pretty good. Chris, talk about the broadening that we were talking about in terms of where this business is going, but obviously new sectors. By the way, sorry to interrupt.
14:42NVIDIA hitting$1 ,000 a share as we speak in the after hours. Go ahead. Makes for a nice even$100 on a 10 to 1 split. So, Chris, yeah. So talk about other sectors where, again, you know, maybe these were places in a past life we actually talked about with NVIDIA. But, you know, whether it is auto, whether it is, you know, CPU, whether it is what gets you excited here to look at the future? Yeah, and I think that's a little bit confusing because we've been so supply constrained that you would ultimately hit your largest and best customers first and then work down to the enterprise over time. So this is a broadening, but it may be more of a supply dynamic than a demand dynamic overall.
15:22But as we move forward here, things like Omniverse, things like, you know, enterprise, on-prem, AI, they're going to be more important and you will see a broadening overall. Just maybe not as quickly as this report, you know, kind of signifies. And Chris, in terms of the hiccup that you might be looking for, Q3, Q4 timeline as that transition to the Blackwell happens, is that something that you look through or is there a real stumbling block that NVIDIA could hit that would impair its business in any way? We would be looking through it. We think the GB200 products are incredible. These are basically, you know, full supercomputers connecting 576 GPUs into one single, like, holistic cluster.
16:12There's nothing else like that on the market. But we don't know if investors are going to look through it in the same way. I would imagine a hiccup in the stock price, you know, kind of correspondent with the numbers. Chris, great to get your take. Thanks so much. Chris Rolland of Susquehanna, who's got a$1 ,050 price target on the stock. He just moved it up recently. And, of course, the stock hitting$1 ,000 briefly in the after-hour session. What's your take on this price action? We seem to continue to get stronger. Very, very strong. I think Chris is going to have to take his price target up because we're going to be there before the end of the show.
16:48Another$50 is not that much. But, again, you know, if you talk about momentum, we talk about the different traders that are going to come in here, A breakout of this type of proportion is going to get a lot of people excited about it. Retail traders, momentum traders. And as long as we can hold these gains, I do think that momentum continues. And the retail trade, we've seen it. It can be powerful when it wants to be. And that's$100 a share. And not terribly discriminant on necessary valuation, which I think is fine. But also looking more at really the secular and the dynamics that I think this company and the place and the position it has both in their lives and in the concept of where we think the economy is going.
17:28I think this is a relief to buy for a lot of people that didn't own the stock. Actually, it's confirmation, and it gives you at least another runway of a quarter or two. And it might give us a little bit of confirmation for the market rally with the S &P ad records here. This was the last sort of test, right, for the rally here. We need an NVIDIA. I think you can exhale, and they did it. They delivered. Yep. All right. We'll, of course, keep you posted on the NVIDIA conference call, which is ongoing right now as shares hit$1 ,000 in the after-hours session. We've got a news alert here on Pfizer and Moderna.
17:59Seema Modi's got all the details. Seema. Melissa, the U.S. is in active conversations with mRNA vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna on a potential vaccine for humans. That's according to a Reuters report, citing a call with the Department of Human and Health Services. It follows the CDC confirming a second human case of H5N1 bird flu tied to this dairy cow outbreak here in the U.S. A little bit of context from our pharma reporter Angelica Peoples. It's not clear at what level these talks are happening and how far they've progressed, but it's not uncommon, of course, for the government and the vaccine makers to have these conversations.
18:35It's happened a lot over the past couple of years. As we come out of COVID, we have reached out to both companies. We're looking at shares of Pfizer and Moderna higher in after hours. Melissa. All right, Seema, thanks. Seema Modi. We've got two holders of Pfizer here on the desk, long-suffering shareholders, but are seeing a lift in today's session on the back of cost-cutting news from Pfizer, but also in the after hours on this vaccine news. Avian flu, obviously it's not as, it won't be as pervasive, I would imagine, as COVID was during the pandemic, but this could help a little bit. Yeah, although, you know, as a Pfizer shareholder, I don't want to hear anything about Paxlovid or anything related to COVID vaccines because it's been an albatross.
19:12What was successful and what gave the company substantial windfall, which I think they aggressively reinvested in new pipeline. We just haven't determined what what's going to pay out of that pipeline yet. The cost cutting is interesting. Look, at some point you had to see some catalyst for the stock, which was taking a long time to bottom. This is incrementally good news. This after hours news doesn't mean a whole lot to me. The cost cutting, new cost cutting announcement on top of cost cutting that was announced at the end of last year. So that's it's an increase in that. Yeah. I mean, I like that they continue to find costs.
19:41I just wonder why didn't they find it last time? Like it's all the same. Yes. But, you know, the stock has really been so bad that I think, you know, Tim always says, would you make the most money when a stock goes from terrible to just bad? Is that right? So is it just bad now or is it like it's bad? It's still pretty terrible. It's terrible. It really has been, yeah, just terrible. I definitely don't think we want to, you know, hope for like a bird flu or something like that. That would like benefit them. So, yeah, I mean, hopefully it's something else. It's like they have a lot of cancer drugs in their pipelines, which would be really beneficial for people.
20:12And I think there is a lot of that like longer term potential that could increase sales for them. So, yeah, I'm hoping it's not bird flow. I hope that's not. I mean, it'd be terrible if we sat here and said, you know, catalyst for the stock is plague. That'd be a great thing. But, you know, no, we're not we're not doing that right now. All right. Coming up more on NVIDIA's results. First, Mark Capital founder and partner Rick Heitzman joins us to dive into the ripple effects and the major implications they could have for the market. But first, a Fast Money retail roundup, TJX at a new high. Target misses the mark.
20:41And monster reversal from Williams-Sonoma. We'll break it all down next. This is Fast Money with Melissa Lee right here on CNBC.
20:58Welcome back to Fast Money. Target and TJX both out with earnings this morning and moving in very different directions. TJX with a top and bottom line beat in raising EPS guidance for the year. Shares up as much as 7.5 % at their highs, closing up more than 3%. Target, meantime, missing on EPS, but seeing a pullback on spending and groceries and home goods. Those shares seeing their worst day since November 2022. We sort of put it out there when they announced all those price cuts on the 5 ,000 products that maybe they were doing that ahead of earnings because things were not looking so good. Courtney, what do you think?
21:32Yeah, and I think this is tough because they really came out and they said that on their discretionary items, so things like home decor or clothing, like that's really where they saw a lot of their declines. And I think the question there is you get the argument that, OK, the consumer is strapped. They're not spending money there. But then on the other side, you have like a TJ Maxx and people are spending their money. And I think the question is they're clearly strapped with inflation and they're having to decide where they're spending their money. And so these retailers are having to really position themselves of where they have the value because people are spending money.
22:01So I don't think you can blame it on the consumer. And I think some of that might have been baked in there. The consumer spending is just not at target right now. And I think that's something they really need to turn around. Yeah, I think it's just a shift in what the consumer is doing, exactly what you're talking about. I mean, you even look at some of the, you know, the like Prologis Trust and some of those warehouse companies that kind of cater to online retailers. And they're saying they had a tough quarter, right? And it's this mix shift that the retailers are having a tough time getting their hands around.
22:31So if you're somebody like a Target who people might come in there for their staples, for their groceries, that type of thing, that's what's getting really hurt right now. But then people buying the one-off special wicker basket or something like that, which I know Tim's really a big fan of. I can't get enough. It's good to have you back just to highlight what you've known for years has been an issue for me. And the scents of candles that go into the wicker basket. That's right. And the potpourri. I thought it was the chief growth officer on the Target column, you know, and Brian Cornell. They're both saying how there's no change in their outlook for the consumer since their last investor day outlook.
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23:03And yet they highlighted how the consumer is, in fact, strapped. And they cited the stat one out of every three Americans are maxed out or nearly maxed out on one of their at least one of their credit cards. So they're saying that there are cracks here in the consumer, but they want to sort of stick by the narrative that overall the consumer looks OK. Well, Walmart told a very different story, right? So also Target was up somewhat on the heels of Walmart. And so it doesn't hold up as well. Although, you know, I've had it in for Target since I sold it too early. But now it's sort of round trip that so I could feel a little bit better.
23:36But I think it wasn't it's not crazy expensive, but this isn't good enough to this isn't good enough to continue what they had hoped to be big momentum. I think this is a message more broadly for discretionary. And I think, you know, we talked about Lulu yesterday. It's had another tough day. Maybe we'll talk about that some more. But I think the message out of Target was not that the grocery trends are difficult, that they're getting their butts kicked by Walmart, who can dictate price and will dictate price for the world from here on out. But I think it's discretionary trends. And the wicker baskets, it's a disappointment for me, Brian, but I will go buy more.
24:10But I do think that the consumer is running out of gas also just on a lot of items in terms of demand. It might even be less about where I think they are in terms of their wallet and their credit card spend. I just think discretionary. And I think this is a bad omen for pure discretionary plays that are going lower. All right. We've got some more details off the NVIDIA earnings call. Let's get back to Christina Parts and Avalos for more. Christina. What we're seeing is data center revenue, I should say, is we did hit a record. And the main point in this earnings beat was the CFO started the first 23 minutes describing the key drivers.
24:43She said first that inferencing drove 40 percent of data center revenues just over the last four quarters or so. She also talked about cloud service providers, which we know contributed 40 percent of data center. But you're sorry, I'm listening to the call at the exact same time. The CFO said that they expect auto to be the largest enterprise vertical within data center this year. So that's pretty good. They did a shout out to Tesla saying that Tesla secured thirty five thousand GPUs. And then they also talked about sovereign A.I. That's when a country uses its own AI infrastructure and workforce, and they expect that segment itself to hit single digits billions this year.
25:21They talked about China. They said they ramped up their products designed specifically for China that don't require licenses. But they note that China revenue is, quote, down significantly from October. That's when they first imposed the export restrictions here in the United States. And then I'll just end on this lastly. The next generation hopper, this is the H200 that is currently shipping in this quarter. They said that shipments are on track. However, they are supply constrained. They did ship the first set of H200s to Sam Altman at OpenAI. So shout out right there. And they also warned that they expect a similar supply constraint with the Blackwell that's out later on this year.
25:59So a lot focused on data center revenue. And now Jensen Wong has just taken up on the call to just give a speech before he does Q &A. Keep us posted. Christina, thanks. A record here in the after hours, 1 ,011 a share for shares of NVIDIA right now at more than 6%. We'll keep you posted again. Coming up, NVIDIA's conference call, as we mentioned, underway. So we'll bring you some more headlines and digest them with First More Capital founder Rick Heitzman. That is next. Plus, Ethereum soaring this week ahead of a crucial SEC deadline. BK will break down the crypto landscape and the recent run-up coming up.
26:31That's when he's back in tune.
26:39Welcome back to Fast Money. Some other after-hours action. Elf Beauty plunging despite a huge beat on the top and the bottom line thanks to light full-year guidance. VF Corp also dropping sharply after reporting a 13 percent drop in revenues from last year's Q4. And DuPont shares jumping on its plans to split into three publicly traded companies creating independent electronics and water businesses. During the regular session, stocks slid into the red mid-afternoon after Fed minutes showed inflation worries are far from over at the U.S. Central Bank. Lululemon, meantime, this is a stock we spent some time on last night.
27:12Falling 7 percent on news, the company's chief product officer will depart the company at the end of the month. And notable, copper pulling back after a hot run in May. The metal slipping deeper into the red after the minutes were released. Dealer's choice, BK, what do you want to trade? Well, for me, it's copper, right? So I'm long Freeport, Mac, FCX, and obviously not a great day there. But I think it comes down to your time frame on this. If you're into copper, you're in it because of the greening of America and the greening of everything, frankly, that you're going to need a lot more copper for.
27:44And we haven't built copper mines in years. So it's going to be supply constraint. Daylight today is tough. I'm long it. I'm going to stay long it. I don't think there's any change in the story just because the Fed decided that for this minute the wind was blowing one day and they might raise rates again. I don't think that's a reason to change your view on copper or Freeport Mac. Lululemon, does it look potentially attractive with a decline of 8 %? I don't know. I'd rather buy it higher on a quarter that sounds better than what's feared right now. Yeah. And you, Tim? Yeah, look, again, they're at peak margins right now.
28:18Where are they going to be when they start? And they haven't been discounting, but we know how fierce the competitive landscape is, that there's zero moat. I think, again, the ubiquity word is one you watch out for here. And I don't I'm going to get interested. It's just not interesting yet. Coming up, we will get more reaction to NVIDIA's earnings. Look at the implications of its move on the broader markets with First Mark Capital's Rick Heitzman. That is next as NVIDIA shares hit 1020 in the after hours now at 1018. Plus a couple of fast movers, Goldman Sachs and Starbucks making waves today.
28:48The numbers behind the moves and whether to add to these names in your portfolio right after this.
29:00Welcome back to Fast Money. Shares of NVIDIA at after hours, highs in the back of a record-breaking earnings beat, a 10-for-1 stock split and a 262 % jump in sales. The stock now well over$1 ,000 a share, hitting$2.5 trillion in market capitalization. Let's bring in venture capitalists known for his early investments in Airbnb, Pinterest, and DraftKings. Rick Heitzman is managing partner at First Smart Capital. He thinks everyone needs an AI strategy. It just certainly seems so, Rick. It seems like it. And now people are putting their money where their mouth is. So what you're seeing is the enterprise build out of those AI strategies beginning with NVIDIA.
29:38So talk to us about sort of the concentric circles around NVIDIA. If you're not going to invest in NVIDIA, how are you thinking about the next places to put your money? Yeah. So I think you're thinking about NVIDIA is the foundational layer. It's the hardware around it. And you're seeing that build out probably starting 18 months ago, probably continue throughout the rest of the year. Then you think about what are the software players are going to sit on top of that and benefit from it. It's going to be the operating systems. You know, you had Steve on yesterday talking about Apple and their interoperability and their operating system, being able to personalize both personal and consumer and enterprise apps.
30:12Microsoft, obviously, at every level of that chain. And then there will be new consumer apps that sit on top of it. But just the next level would be both the operating systems as well as the providers of data that will inform those large language models. Are you seeing in the early stages companies that are being built specifically around an AI business model, whether it be an app that helps you use AI or AI being, you know, very integral in terms of the company's workings? Yeah, I think there's two, both on the enterprise and consumer side. There's probably a half dozen companies that are just learning how to do law.
30:49So it's just large language learning models around law, replacing all those armies of legal associates who fill in the blanks of legal forms and doing that and doing a better job of that. And then subsegments of bank loans, equity financings, all those different pieces. So the whole bingo board is being filled up really quickly. So how do you think about that environment? Are you thinking about what those people are going to do afterwards and where they're going to go? Or are you simply just thinking about there's just going to be this massive build out? Like, do I think about leisure time? What do I think about?
31:23We think about all of it, right? So my partner, Matt Turk, has the MAD landscape, which is the machine learning, artificial intelligence and data landscape. There's 1 ,400 companies out there. So, you know, we only talk about NVIDIA. There's only a couple of public ways to play it. But the private markets is exploding. So we think about enterprise and consumer, and then we think about sustainability, because a lot of these companies are just getting started, zero revenue, some pre-product. And what does it mean to be able to learn a language using that? And is that value going to accrue to the Duolingos of the world?
31:56Is it going to accrue to the Apples of the world? Or is it going to accrue to a new startup starting with three people building a French language-specific application? Rick, so as in the context of everyone needs to have an AI strategy and we talk all the time, we've spent we've spent months talking about how Google was lagging. Give your assessment of maybe the big the big three we're not really talking about, which would be Amazon, Meta. I mean, it's not the conversation for today or even Google in terms of because at some point I still think there's the same pie for all of these companies that they it's almost like keeping pace.
32:28So your thoughts on that? So I think they all have some infrastructure of AWS or GCP. So they all have their own cloud, which will benefit both directly and indirectly as these large language models take a tremendous amount of processing power and tremendous amount of infrastructure. And then who builds what on top? So Meta is open sourcing Lama and a lot of their tools because they're a laggard. So if you're a laggard, you open source to try and level the playing field. If you're ahead of the game, you close source to make sure you can monetize your benefits. So Meta is open sourcing, but being a little bit ahead of the game.
33:00Amazon is, at least on the application side, behind. I mean, Alexa is something I use almost every day, but it's not great, right? So how do they keep ahead of that game? And I would say Microsoft is probably doing as good of a job as any, and they're playing at every level of that ecosystem and doing a pretty good job executing, especially with the relationship with open AI. Rick, you've been thoughtful about the GLP-1 impact on society and the market share shifts and the capitalization shifts that we have seen play out. And I'm wondering if, you know, we have made the sort of comparison between the optimism around GLP-1s and the optimism around AI, the impact.
33:37So are there trades that you see? I mean, way back when, in the early days of GLP-1s, we were thinking, oh, well, people will eat less, they'll eat differently, they'll buy new clothes, they'll buy workout clothes, you know, things like that. Are there trades like that that are spurred off of this AI industrial revolution that we're not thinking? I mean, when BK, when you mentioned free time, Right. Because people will have free time because they are more productive. That's right. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, so there has been a thing. I mean, even Nestle announcing that, you know, in this specific just the GLP one takers of new whole areas of food.
34:12I think there's going to be something in AI and it's going to be what is your personal assistant do if your AI could tell you what time you have to leave for your Uber to catch your airplane and where you should eat that night and what's going to happen. and how you should schedule your meeting and what you should talk about on Fast Money. If all those things happen, that frees up a person or a half a person to do whatever. But I think the great thing is no matter how much we thought the Internet was going to make our lives incredibly simple and so much more leisure time, it just opens it up to do so many more things.
34:43So I don't think any of us are any less busy than we were before the Internet. It's different busy. And you're just going to be different busy, hopefully a little bit more efficient and hopefully having a little bit more leisure time to go and go to even a better restaurant. So can you just say, we were almost out of time, one company that you think will have a tremendous productivity boost as a result of AI, not that they're in the AI business? Oh, I think you're going to see probably the sector probably software. I think that software will be super powered by AI, both on the productivity of programmers by using tools so they could program more and every single software company has had a hiring deficit over the last 20 years, that gap will be filled by AI, and the software will be that much better.
35:29So your return on investment, which is how most enterprises buy software, is going to be much greater because of this superpower. So I think hopefully, and we'll see if that gets thrown up, or the existing players will be even stronger if you think about companies like, that are doing some automation like UiPath today. Rick, thanks. Always good to get your take. Rick Heitz in the first mark. Courtney, just real quick, outside of NVIDIA, what's your next place for AI? Yeah, and I think the big thing that's going to benefit is that we're going to have the electrification of everything. We need so much more energy to power AI.
36:01I think it takes like 10 times more energy for an AI search than it does Google search. I think that's something that we want to absolutely explore that theme. All right, coming up, Ethereum on pace for its best week in more than a year as ETF optimism builds. But could the cryptocurrency be set for major disappointment? Our very own crypto connoisseur, BK Brian Kelly, will dive in. That's next.
36:28Welcome back to Fast Money. Ethereum soaring this week as the SEC deadline for spot ETF approval quickly approaches. Investors suddenly turning optimistic this week, sending the crypto soaring. Ether pulling back a bit today, but still up over 60 % year-to-date on pace for its best week in over a year. For more on what the SEC's decision will mean for the crypto space, let's turn to our own Bitcoin baller, in this case, Ether expert. And, of course, that would be BK Brian Kelly. What do you think? Is this a sell the news event? No, I don't think it's a sell the news event, although we probably got a lot of the initial kind of excitement out of the way.
37:01Ethereum has really been underperforming everybody else. It's just and everybody's kind of left it for dead. So I think you had a big short covering rally. But in general, what this has done is changed the landscape for crypto, particularly politically. in this country. So in beginning of May, Trump was asked a question about crypto. And he said, if you want crypto, vote for Trump. That clip went viral and actually changed things in Washington. We saw multiple votes over the last several days that were pro-crypto. The president said he was going to veto those and then kind of backed off. So I think there's been a sea change here in the regulatory environment, and it's a welcome one from the industry.
37:38So this is just in the past few weeks, you think, you got more optimistic. This is since May 6th. Much more optimistic. And then what we're seeing is the SEC is starting to amend these S1s. So I don't know if the Ethereum ETF gets approved next week or the week after. It will get approved at some point in time. But also the trade now is who's next, right? Exactly. Who is next? And I was talking about yesterday. Now it's almost time for truly my ETF, my blended ETF of which crypto asset it is. And so Who is next, though? I mean, I think you've got to think about Solana as probably the next one, right?
38:14I mean, Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana are probably the big three for this cycle. But I'll give you even a stranger, or maybe not stranger, but maybe an unintuitive way to think about it, Robinhood and Coinbase. Because now we have some clarity about what a security is and what isn't. And they'll be able to list a lot more crypto, which means a lot more trading for them. So I think they're the biggest beneficiaries from the change that's gone on. So, BK, really glad to have you here. Big fan of your work. I have a question about all of the FTX money, then, you know, a lot of talk about how much they're actually getting.
38:44Yeah. Do you think I don't know if it's 11 billion dollars now or what? Will that go back into crypto? Will it go into Bitcoin? Where is it going to go? Yeah, I do think it's most of that money is crypto native. Right. So it's crypto funds, people that are investing in this. So I do think most of that money will come back in. What we've seen so far is a lot of private deals. There were a lot of private deals in Solana that's happened over the last month where investors in the receiver in FTX was selling Solana to investors. So I think that what's going to happen is it'll just be recycled. And there may be some of it that kind of leaks out to the side.
39:18But I would think most of that money stays in the crypto ecosystem. So you were like Solana for a long time now, even before this sort of the sniff of an ETF. Jeff, aside from a Solana, what are some of the or what is your number one sort of moonshot coin trade? Oh, that's a great question. I think you can look at a couple different ones. You can look at some of the A.I. coins. So something like a Fetch A.I. there. That's been really well. And then what's been hot recently is what we call the professor coins. So ones that have kind of been developed by professors at universities. So Avalanche is one of those.
39:50AVAX. I would look at some of those. They tend to trade with everybody else. And once they get going, they tend to trade at a multiple of everything else. All right. Well, thanks for that, BK. Good thing you did. All right. Coming up, Fast Movers. Starbucks riding a winning streak recently, but can the gains continue? We'll be right back.
40:14Welcome back to Fast Money. More comments from Jensen Huang on the NVIDIA conference call. Let's get back to Christina Parts-Nevelis. Christina. Well, the first set of questions focused on potential demand lulls or air pockets that a lot of people are worried about before the company launches its next generation chip in Q3. Well, CEO Jensen Wong saying that won't be the case since customers will, quote, easily transition from the H100, which is already on the market, to H200, currently being shipped this quarter, to the B100 with the Blackwell chips we keep talking about ramping in Q3. And that NVIDIA should see, quote, a lot of Blackwell revenue this year.
40:48So that's the positive surprise, as most analysts are expecting revenues from those chips to come in in 2025, Q1. So that's being moved forward. And why you actually saw the stock go up a little bit. Demand is so strong that supply is also expected to be constrained. In other words, NVIDIA's CEO is assuring investors demand is going to be sustained throughout the year. No air pockets. And that's helping shares go from 4 percent initially at the beginning of the call to 6 percent. Thank you, Christina. Christina Parts and Edlos, we've talked a lot in the past about setting expectations and why go out on a limb unless you really believe that you can meet those expectations or beat them.
41:23And here we are, Jensen Huang, the CEO, saying the transition will not be a problem and you'll see a lot of revenues from Blackwell. You've got to believe him. Yeah. Right? And that he's going to beat him. He's going to beat him by a healthy amount. I am sort of stressed for him. Like, at some point, things will crest. And then what is he going to do? How is he going to manage the expectations? Things are cresting, I guess. He's been managing pretty well, though, so far. Yes, he has. Extraordinary. Air pockets. I mean, you've had some air pockets in this stock to buy. I mean, this was a$750 stock a month ago.
41:55I mean, so I think that's part of the reason why I actually think you have a relief buyer coming in tomorrow. Up next, final trades.
42:10final trade time tim nice to have you back bk i think the sell-off in copper and gold and some of that stuff just a one-day thing you want to buy gold miners parent yes i don't love buying things up but i really like dell off of this nvidia news so buy some call spreads courtney um also on the miners i go to freeport macmaren whether it's ai it's electric vehicles i mean this is a trend that's going to stay. So great to have BK back, not just to talk about Bitcoin, but about a little bit of everything. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of fun to be back. Thanks for having me back. Really enjoyed it. And the show went so fast.
42:42It really did. It did. But we did. Yeah. So if we're talking about AI, which we did all, we're going to need a lot of energy, like Courtney said. And I think probably the only way to get it is uranium URA. That's the long term play on that. All right. Mad Money with Jim Cramer starts right now. All opinions expressed by the Fast Money participants are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of CNBC, NBC Universal, their parent company or affiliates, and may have been previously disseminated by them on television, radio, internet, or another medium. You should not treat any opinion expressed on this podcast as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of an opinion.
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