Stocks Wrap Up Volatile Week In The Red… And Oil Shock “Critical Stage” 3/20/26

20 Mar 2026 · 43 min · 15 chapters

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In short

Fast Money recap of a volatile week ending with broad market losses, rising energy prices, and higher interest rates; debate over how a massive options expiration may have amplified the selloff; discussion of housing sensitivity to mortgage rates; and separate segments on Super Micro’s alleged China smuggling scheme, bank stock weakness, and an “oil shock” tied to Middle East disruptions and Strait of Hormuz concerns.

Guests (backgrounds)

Ben Emmons, CIO at FedWatch Advisor and managing director at Highline Asset Management; longtime former PIMCO exec. John Kilduff, founder of Again Capital, energy-market specialist.

Key claims

Options expiration (nearly $6T notional) and put-call ratio shifts likely magnified late-day moves and hedging. Oil shock is at a “critical stage” with >10M barrels/day offline and potential Strait of Hormuz constraints; relief could be limited and prices may stay elevated. Banks’ March decline is “overdone” but driven by credit/private-lending and positioning concerns. Housing needs lower mortgage rates; rates moving higher is a headwind.

Notable examples

S&P near 6,500 and NASDAQ near 24,000; VIX ~26.78. Brent ~ $110+; diesel >$5. Super Micro: blow-dryer/serial-number dummy-server alleged smuggling of NVIDIA chips to China; co-founder charged/resigned. Elon Musk Twitter case verdict (misleading investors).

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Market Overview and Concerns

2:00 to 3:06

Discussion on the market's decline and concerns over energy prices and rates.

“The S &P falling about a percent and a half today.”

Options Expiration Impact

3:06 to 4:19

Analysis of options expiration's role in today's market movements.

“is that there were nearly$6 trillion worth of options expiring in the market today.”

Interest Rates and Market Sentiment

4:19 to 8:34

Exploration of how rising interest rates affect market sentiment and investment strategies.

“I think we've been dancing around the 200-day in both these indices.”

Predictions and Economic Outlook

8:34 to 14:00

Insights on future market conditions and potential Fed actions regarding interest rates.

“problem is that, you know, this doesn't look like it's going to be ending anytime soon, particularly if we're talking about boots on the ground.”

Analyzing Inflation and Employment Mandates

14:00 to 20:25

Explore the delicate balance between inflation control and unemployment rates.

“we need to get ahead of this issue because otherwise this gets out of control.”

Impact of Oil Price Shocks on Markets

20:25 to 20:52

Discuss how recent oil price fluctuations affect market stability.

“As for the group, whether our traders see it bounce back, well, you got to stay tuned to find out.”

Trump's Military Strategy Announcement

22:27 to 28:01

Examine President Trump's recent remarks on US military efforts in the Middle East.

“All right, we've got some breaking news right now in a new Truth Social post from President Trump.”

Market Impact Assessment

28:01 to 28:40

Discussing the implications of recent market events and Fed actions.

“Well, I think we still haven't realized what the impact of this event was.”

Supermicro Scandal Overview

30:07 to 31:58

Exploring the fallout from Supermicro's recent charges and past scandals.

“Super Micro shares lost one-third of the value today after some of their employees, including a co-founder, were charged with smuggling NVIDIA chips to China.”

Banking Sector Challenges

31:59 to 36:35

Analyzing the current struggles and potential rebound of the banking sector.

“Because 2018 delisted counting scandal EY walks.”
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Oil Market Critical Stage

36:36 to 42:00

Examining the critical state of the oil market amid ongoing conflicts.

“The energy complex is getting complex or more complex.”

Oil and Gas Market Dynamics

42:00 to 43:34

Discussion on the interconnectedness of oil and gas stocks and the market's response.

“This is an acute situation that the straight opening rectifies.”

Elon Musk's Legal Verdict

43:34 to 44:15

Overview of the jury's decision regarding Musk's Twitter share purchase disclosure.

“So this suit alleged that his flip-flopping commentary around the move to buy Twitter back in 2022 was in a bid to manipulate the stock price.”

Housing Market Concerns

44:15 to 45:21

Analysis of the current state of the housing market amidst rising interest rates.

“Like housing, how close are you watching?”

Final Trades Insights

45:21 to 46:50

Panelists share their final trades and insights on various stocks.

“All right, Julie Beal, kick off final trades, if you would.”
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1:01Live from the NASDAQ market site right here in the heart of New York City's Times Square, this is Fast Money. It's a big one. Here's what's on tap tonight. A Friday fade from rising energy prices and interest rates to a massive options expiration. Plenty of factors weighing in on investors, the markets, your money, and to talk about all to close out the week, how to position yourself now heading into the end of the month. Today, also the first day of spring, and realtors certainly hoping there was some spring in the housing market. Could rising mortgage rates crush those dreams? Plus, the crazy big tech story you got to hear.

1:39An analyst gets a little more spicy on Chipotle and higher rates hitting banks, but are they set? Turn it around. We're going to debate all of that. Hi, everybody. I am Brian in for Melissa tonight. Coming to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ. On your desk on a big Friday, Tim Seymour, Karen Feinerman, Steve Grasso, and Julie Beal. All right, let's start with your markets, your money lower across the board. All the major averages down. The S &P falling about a percent and a half today. Now at its lowest level since early September. We are now in a four-week losing streak. Small caps crushed.

2:17They are now technically in a correction. What is up? Energy prices. American crude settling up another 2%. Brent crude around$110 a barrel. That's its highest price. It's 2022. And look at interest rates. They're not going down. They're going up. The yield on the 10-year popping again, hitting its highest level since August. Meantime, the so-called safe haven gold trade, anything but on pace for its worst week since 2011. In the news, a CBS report, the White House is preparing to potentially deploy ground troops in Iran. However, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt says the president has not made a final decision at this time.

3:00But maybe the market story of the day, or not, we'll talk about it, is that there were nearly$6 trillion worth of options expiring in the market today. Notional value. It is one of the largest options expirations ever. So, Tim Seymour, we don't know how much of a role that may have played, if any. But what was your take on the market action today, the options activity, and anything else on your mind?

3:30Karen Finerman:Well, the options activity, which is a quarterly expiry, which already was going to be extraordinary, as we were talking about, is one of the largest numbers of all times in terms of no still that traded. And what you're also seeing is that actually that activity in the last, call it, 20 minutes of the day was furious. And what led to was an S &P that closed below 6 ,500, NASDAQ below 24 ,000. These are very important levels, and they're levels of risk that I think were being protected and have broken. So we'll see where we come back in on Monday and where people obviously have rehedged and thrown a lot of index options back out there.

4:05Karen Finerman:We've also talked about how the indices themselves have been very placid on the surface with a lot of tumult below them. The indices are starting to give ground and people are starting to actually use those indices as hedging mechanisms. But it sounds like you are closely watching that we closed above 6 ,500. We're at 6 ,506. But that 6 ,500 level, big deal. Yeah, I think it is. I think we've been dancing around the 200-day in both these indices. and I'll leave it to the pure chartists, but the technical damage is something that you have to watch on this market. To this point, we haven't. We've actually been extremely resilient and today was a concern.

4:43So if you look at the put-call ratio as of two days ago, the 18th, it was 1.26, which means 126 puts for every 100 calls that are out there. That's decidedly bearish. So if you go below, it's 0.7 would be bullish. So much lower. Having said that. We went from 0.7 to 1.26, which is a big change from where. Big change. So I'm just giving the guideposts. What's bullish, what's bearish. So if those puts expire worthless, then those hedges come off. So the dealers have to hedge against those shorts. So they have to be short as well. So they're short going into the end of the day. that leaves a cleaner, not clean, a cleaner slate on Monday with a bounce potential.

5:33Huge caveat. Yes. Any headlines that are negative for the market? This is wonky stuff. This used to be, I mean, this is not options action, but I mean, it could be today, right? We could be calling this options action. Let me just be a little more direct for the audience that are not options experts, which is. And by the way, this is very macro. I'm not an options expert. The easy stuff is put call ratio to see what was the actual. But it played a role in the market today, right? Especially towards the end of the day. So Tim touched on it. When you have the expiration going and you get that weight on it at the end of the day, that's more single stock because your indices are more gauged for the opening.

6:13So the single stock expiry is for the close. But then that last 10 minutes was actually, you know, the market rallied, which maybe that's just even worse. Yes. Yes. But the last 10 minutes, actually, the VIX moved from north of 29, closed at 2678. So normally, you know, on a weekend where a lot of things are going on, the VIX would be, I think, probably a little more elevated going into the weekend. I don't know. Or if they were playing with playing the bounce on Monday, if you if you have savvier people, the bounce on Monday. potential potential. But I think people are you know, there was a hope early on.

6:52We're four weeks into this now that it would be already over or that it would be quick. And that doesn't seem to be the case right now. And then also you have rates higher. That stock price lower. So going into a weekend, I mean, I'm long. I'm always long. So this is really not a delightful week. But and every dip historically has been a buying opportunity. I guess Julie Beal being even a little more direct. I guess what I'm trying to figure out for our audience is how much of today's action in the markets, down 2%, big down day, but to Karen's point, didn't end on the low. But how much of today's market action was quote unquote real, fundamental, and how much was accelerated or magnified or whatever word you want to use by the massive options expiration?

7:40I don't know if we can know, but it had to have played a role. Yes, I think it had to have played a role. We know directionally people are trying to protect themselves because a lot of bad news tends to be happening on the weekends. And so I think people try to get into a posture that is a little bit lighter on risk going into weekends because they're nervous about whatever headline risk is waiting for them on the other side of that. And I really think that just the fact that we're talking about the last 10 minutes of action in the markets, it really tells you just how uncertain people are that we're having this much directional movement, where people know they want to be invested in the market because buy the dip has worked for the last 10 years.

8:21But at the same time, it's really hard to just ignore interest rates going up, gas prices going up, and this much movement in the market. So while I think that the options can always exacerbate the market action, I really think that the bigger underlying problem is that, you know, this doesn't look like it's going to be ending anytime soon, particularly if we're talking about boots on the ground.

8:42Karen Finerman:Yeah. And I think the uncertainty in rates is also the other part of today. I mean, today was a day where it felt like we were really breaking higher. 438 closed in the 10-year. By the way, that closed at the high. No love there. And if you look at rates across Europe, 10-year bond, which has had a bigger move, we've talked about that the global rate story has actually even been more extreme. So it's a day when the bond markets are kind of reinforcing what the equity markets are doing. And I know we're about to have a great conversation, but you're getting the you're getting the flation with the stag.

9:10Karen Finerman:And that's really what I think the market is was doing today. And I would just go out and say what you're seeing on the index level is also a catch up. But we are not priced for recession. We are not priced for a major growth slowdown. And I think that's where the market I mean, yes, as much as you want to talk about an options expiry today to me was further deterioration of the sense of where this market is. And it was all fundamentals. All right. So let's expand this conversation, bringing our friend Ben Emmons. He is chief investment officer at FedWatch Advisor, managing director at Highline Asset Management, longtime former PIMCO exec.

9:47So you're perfect on the Fed and markets. So I'm going to ask you about something completely different. You're welcome. Not to harp on it, but how much do you think, because you wrote about it, does this options expiration fact, I'm just trying to gauge how much this might matter for Monday. Friday morning. Yeah, well, it sounds like when Karen and I were looking at these numbers, like it was like 60 percent were puts rolled over. So that does that tells me this downside protection being extended. People are, I guess, indeed worried. I have no idea what will happen this weekend. More attacks, whatever could happen.

10:22And as a result, you know, I want to protect myself more to the downside. What's the easiest way to put on the S &P, I guess, right? Or not selling stocks, but buying insurance, if you will, in the form of a put. Yeah, buying insurance. Because we never know. We could wake up tomorrow morning and have a major escalation in the Gulf. Or we could wake up tomorrow morning and not hear anything new about it. We don't know. Exactly. So you buy a put that's like a low insurance cost for something that could be really bad. And if it doesn't, then you let it expire and go from there. What we do know is what Tim talked about, which is a 10-year at 4.38 percent.

10:59OK, the markets now you look at the CME FedWatch tool, there's actually a slight tick up in the odds of a rate hike, hike, not cut by the end of the year. How much if we hit four and if we hit four and a half on the 10 year, what's going to happen to the equity markets? Yeah, I guess that's where the pressure point will be, because we're getting this hike priced in because I think the bond market is getting worried that, OK, Fed, you're going to step ahead of this. You're going to get ahead of the curve and perhaps slam the brakes to try and avoid an inflation problem that we had back in 2022.

11:36And this is why the rate hike probability goes up. But if you hit four and a half, there's a lot of positions I think get washed out, too. Just like you see in the equity market, more downside protection perhaps being built in the bond market, too. You drive yourself towards 5%. That would be a pretty painful moment.

11:53Karen Finerman:So, Ben, if the Fed had their meeting and we had Powell's statement on Tuesday of next week, do you think it would be that much more hawkish? Because I think we got a statement that actually had a lot of hawk in it but left a lot of optionality, I guess, to use the term that we've been using. But I get the sense, and it sounds to me like you're telling me that the Fed is ready to actually kick up the hawkish mode. Yeah, I think that is. Sorry, Tim. It is actually because, you know, you got Bowman today, Michelle Bowman. She was still talking about three cuts for this year. Waller was on early on CNBC this morning with Steve and still thinking, well, the tariffs are going to roll off.

12:32We have room to cut. So I guess there's still within the Fed an opinion there that this energy shark is just going to fade away and not going to be so.

12:41Karen Finerman:The old transitory. The old transitory, team transitory. T-word is back. That's why I used it, Brian. It's a family show. That's why I used it. The Timworth, yeah. So anyway, I guess what they're at is that they could get a lot more hawkish. Now, if you look at 2022, in March of that year, just when they started sort of changing their tone, you know, these large language models have these readouts. I was looking at it today. There was a pretty big move up in that readout to hawkish. We're sort of like about, let's say, a quarter of a way of that sort of tone shift. So we could get, indeed, a lot more hawkish.

13:15But it depends, I think, on how long this goes on with this energy price shock. We have to see the inflationator coming out mid-April. what's the first effect there and how they're going to react to that. But it did sound to me from Powell that he was like, what we worry about the most as we sleep at night. So, Ben, you just used the 2022 comparison. Right. But we had CPI a couple of months after that spike in oil reached 9 % or thereabouts. We're nowhere near that. There's a different backdrop to this scenario. And rates were at zero, right? So there was not a lot we can do, basically, coming off of that level.

13:52What would raising rates do to a supply shock other than push us into a recession? Yeah, and that's the thinking, right? So what they're thinking is that if inflation expectations start to move higher, we need to get ahead of this issue because otherwise this gets out of control. But to your point, if you do that, you slam the brake, you slam the brake on the economy, you could be off worse, meaning you keep still having high inflation and unemployment goes up. So tricky moment, I guess, you know, no good answer to it. But I do think Tim's question is about they could get a lot more hawkish, and they probably will, because in their mind, the Fed's mind thinking, they don't want to repeat what happened in 2022.

14:32They'd rather get ahead of it. And that's what I got from Powell myself out of the press conference. What he said literally, what keeps us up at night is these inflation expectations. If they go too much, too much, too fast, too up, too quickly, then we have an issue. So we talked about, you know, during COVID, when the transitory interest rates or inflation was nine, you also had an unemployment rate of eight or six. I mean, it was dropping, but still very elevated. So do you think now that given unemployment is ticking up for the tiniest bit, though, from 4.3 to 4.4-ish, that they had sort of been leaning towards unemployment as the more important mandate at the moment?

15:16Do you think that still is the case or do you think inflation will be the more important mandate? I think we're shifting to inflation from the Powell tone that I got from that. Think of that speech in Jackson Hole 2022, the Payne speech. He was only talking about if we're getting price stability, then we're also getting employment stability. That thinking, I think, comes back now, given the shock that we have, because it's off the charts, obviously. They say we don't know how much is going to go on or how far it will be, but they want to get ahead of it, I think. That's the insurance. Ben Emmons, it's a great conversation.

15:51Appreciate your knowledge, your experience. Thank you very much. You know, Julie Beal, come in here. And I do want to remind our audience that in 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine, oil went to 125. The S &P was roughly 4 ,400. It fell to 3 ,600. About a 17 percent drop, Julie, over the course of about six months. We're down like four or five percent this year on the S &P 500. Midterm years also tend to be a little more volatile. Do you worry that the markets, writ large, the markets as an entity have gotten a little too complacent? Or are you fine with where we are? Look, I think where we are makes sense for most in the market because we just have this kind of underlying bid that always exists that's about buying the dip.

16:35But I do think that there is a difference between where we were in 2022 and where we are now today. Valuations are very different just to get started. But even beyond that, you know, what we're talking about here that's happening in the Gulf is the damaging pretty central infrastructure that's used for the entire global energy market. It was a little bit different what was happening in Ukraine and Russia. It didn't have quite the same knock-on impact for the rest of the world. So I do think that it's a little bit more meaningful than that case in itself. And I think the challenge is that we keep thinking of these markets as really separate between WTI and Brent, whatever.

17:14But it is a more global market than I think we're recognizing. And I think we have to recognize that the input costs that are coming through for most producers, for most consumers, are going to be meaningfully higher. Yes. And by the way, they're paying$150 a barrel in Oman.

17:30Karen Finerman:Yeah, the paper versus physical markets are out of control. out of control. And Asian refiners are paying major, major premiums to get oil. This is this is what's going on. And the view is that that actually that the the the paper markets, so the futures markets are responding to rhetoric. And you can only respond to rhetoric and release of strategic reserves. But for how long? And I think and just, you know, because we're talking about 22, we're talking about the oil shock. Twenty two. The reason it's different is because we had double digit inflation in this country. We had a Fed that was so far behind the curve.

18:04Karen Finerman:This was a very aggressive Fed hike that ultimately culminated in when CPI peaked in October of 22 is when the market went on a generational run. But what was going on in early to mid 22, folks, was really a response to a Fed that was as hawkish as they had been in a generation. So so I do like to take contrarian views on oil specifically because I think the market swings way too much in either direction. I think if and when we get a resolution to this, the sooner the better. There will be a resolution at some point. At some point there's going to be a resolution. I don't know what that is. Those Iranian barrels of oil.

18:40When China really needs the straits open. It's going to be something. Those Iranian barrels of oil, three to four million per day that mostly go to China right now, that are sanctioned. They will be unsanctioned. They are not. There are reports of that. OPEC does not put quotas on them. They do not have to adhere to that. Then there's going to be an OPEC plus. By the way, no one adheres to the, you know that, no one adheres to the quotas in OPEC, period. So if you do have Iran come to market with their barrels, it's going to be a lot more than$3 million to$4 million per day. And OPEC is going to compete.

19:15No one's hitting Iran yet on infrastructure. Not yet. We're dancing around it. We're dancing around it. So can we just go on my journey, my fantasy world right now? This is it. This is my contrarian bet. It doesn't help. If that happens, Iran comes on, a friendlier government comes on, and you have 10 million, 8 million barrels come to market. OPEC starts fighting. We get back to the oversupplied state that we're in before February 28th. The bottom falls out in oil. Yes, the risk premium is higher, but it drops precipitously from where we are.

19:49Karen Finerman:Of course, your fantasy referred to a friendlier government. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And how does it get to 10 billion? I don't think we're stopping. I don't think we're stopping until we get a full regime change. I'm not sure there is a regime change. Welcome to Vietnam. A lot of people. I know. I'm just. No, come on. We're four weeks into it. We're the microwave market. We're four weeks into it. Let's give it some time. There's the view. And that's why we're here. And there's a Simpsons where Homer's like, we're from the land of chocolate. And he dance in his music. You know what always comes true?

20:17Runs through the chocolate. But coming up, financial woes for big banks, the KBE Bank ETF. Worst month in a year as the rates Tim talked about, they move higher. As for the group, whether our traders see it bounce back, well, you got to stay tuned to find out. Plus, this story, I'd say you got to hear it to believe it. But even when you hear it, you may not believe it. Christina Parsonneville is up with this super micro smuggling scheme that involved hair dryers, hidden cameras, and somebody still on the lam. We're back after this.

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22:45All right, we've got some breaking news right now in a new Truth Social post from President Trump. He literally just put this out while we were in commercial break. So we haven't had a time to look at it. I glanced at it. It's long. We're going to read it all because it is the president of the United States, and then everybody can respond. Quote, we're very close to meeting our objectives as we consider winding down our great military efforts in the Middle East with respect to the terrorist regime of Iran. Colon number one, completely degrading Iranian missile capability launches and everything else pertaining to them.

23:19Number two, destroying Iran's defense industrial base. Number three, eliminating their Navy and Air Force, including anti-aircraft weaponry. Number four, never allowing Iran to even get close to nuclear capability, as always being in a position where the U.S. can quickly and powerfully react to such a situation should it take place. Number five, protecting at the highest level are Middle Eastern allies, including Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait and others. Then Trump goes on to say the Strait of Hormuz will have to be guarded and policed as necessary by other nations who use it.

23:59The United States does not, if asked or does. Yeah, does not. There we go. Does not use it. I'm trying to. It's there's a read the post. it's sometimes the inflection. You're losing steam. If asked, we will help these countries in their Hormuz efforts, but it shouldn't be necessary once Iran's threat is eradicated. Importantly, it will be an easy military operation for them. A lot there. We haven't even had a chance to look at it. I'm going to go to the beginning of it. Tim Seymour. Okay, I'm up first. I think what the market will react to, and tell me I'm wrong, because what do I know? Close to the end of our military operation.

24:40Karen Finerman:And also, we don't want to police the Straits of Hormuz, which probably now need to be. And it should be because we don't get our oil through there. We don't receive our oil through there. We don't send our oil through there. This is up to those folks that actually use the Straits. Look, there's nothing but positive if you believe all this is true. And by the way, that includes the part that the president talks about in terms of neutering Iran, so to speak. And I do think this is a case where there has been an enormous amount of damage inflicted. There has been a regime change. There have been a lot of things.

25:15Karen Finerman:And I don't even want to talk about the political goals and what's been arrived at. But we went into this weekend and we talked about options expiry. And Ben talked about it. Steve talked about it. Karen talked about it. You talked about it. Julie talked about it. It was the dynamic of rolling forward because the fear is this is an extension of the conflict. We've got infrastructure that's been blown up. We've got an extension of what this means. This obviously is the opposite of that. And so, you know, if you can qualify these comments and if they are reinforced, there's a lot to there's a lot to work through in there.

25:52Karen Finerman:It's not that simple. So I do think if other nations were to take that on and actually patrol or do whatever was necessary to open the Strait of Hormuz, I think that would be a huge positive. I think the United States may end up being part of that as well if that happens. I mean, I think that the president sees the market not really enjoying this conflict. And, you know, four weeks are down that he would like to end it sooner rather than later. regime change hasn't been. We don't know what the regime is, so we don't know if it's changed. But I think you talked about what the pain that's been inflicted and the destruction of the question.

26:32I believe that. Absolutely. So in part, mission accomplished. Right. So a couple of things. I don't know who's advising him to release it on a Friday night. I prefer this post to be Sunday or potentially Monday at 915, 920 a.m. 929.59. So maybe he should repost it or do something else because that's the proper time to do it. Tree falls in the forest, right? So this is something where I think you see that Tim started off commenting on the straight-up home moves. We don't use it. We don't need it. It doesn't have to be policed by us. That's why you see the spread between WTI and Brent just expanding out.

27:12And I think the market's starting to get it correct. They didn't have it correct before. and any positive news will make the futures retire. Okay, we're showing, and guys, just give us a minute to breathe. This breaking news is a big deal, I think. We're showing the markets, the after hours, the SPY and the QQQ, they are up a little bit. They're not recouping, Tim, what they lost today. They're up seven-tenths of 1%. And I want to hedge that, again, reading the president's social media post, as we consider winding down our great military efforts in the Middle East. He's not saying we are. We are considering it.

27:51When and if there is some military end to this, whatever that end is, is that a market ripper? 100%.

28:01Karen Finerman:Well, I think we still haven't realized what the impact of this event was. And I if it was going to be a quick rebound two weeks ago. Yeah, I mean, I think I think markets will get back to assessing where where earnings growth is and thinking about a Fed that probably their next move is ultimately a cut. If that's where we are, there's no question it's going to take some time to rebuild some infrastructure. But I think the markets will price that in. All right. Show's halfway down. We got halfway to go. We're going to kind of digest this tweet or whatever you want to call it. Take a look more at it.

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30:14All right, this story is unbelievable. Super Micro shares lost one-third of the value today after some of their employees, including a co-founder, were charged with smuggling NVIDIA chips to China. This is the worst day for Supermicros. It's October 2018 when they had some pretty serious accounting issues. Christina Parts and Elvis has been following the story all day and joins us now with more. With more. A web of lies, fake servers, and blow dryers. That's just Friday night. Yes, at my house. No, just talking. Supermicros co-founders, like you talked about, Wally Liao, really charge along with two other company associates with smuggling billions of dollars in servers to China in violation of U.S.

30:56export controls. And the latest news just within the last hour is that that co-founder has resigned from Supermicro's board effectively now. You would assume that something like that would happen. But surveillance cameras that we're showing you right now inside a warehouse caught the defendants in the act, surrounded by dummy servers, blow dryer in hand, swapping serial numbers ahead of government audits. You can see just on the right hand side the red thing in her hand. I see Tim looking. That is a blow dryer. $2.5 billion in servers allegedly funneled to China since 2024. You could have used it this morning.

31:27I know. 510 million in a single three-week stretch just last spring. Supermicro is not named as a defendant, but that may not be enough to contain the damage. Bernstein is already asking whether NVIDIA will feel the need to distance itself entirely from Supermicro. Add in that the company had an accounting scandal in 2018 and was delisted, and then EY walking out as auditor back in 2024. And the compliance questions here go well beyond just three individuals. Guys. So who wants to take this one? Because 2018 delisted counting scandal EY walks. Now the co found one of the co founders is allegedly smuggling NVIDIA chips to China by using a blow dryer to unseal the whatever.

32:13So are we taking out a mortgage and buying all micro here, Karen? Definitely not. No. No. That was a setup. Yes, I realize. I am long Dell, which actually closes the day. It is good for Dell. It is. I mean, the more market share Dell can get, the better. I think. I don't know how the – I mean, I was sort of surprised how well they bounced back from that prior scandal, which was, I mean, the ridiculous payments to the cousin or the brother-in-law or this or that. I don't know how they're surprised. Yeah, Julie Beal, you got to take, I mean, you know, dude, you're getting a Dell. I guess you have to.

32:51I don't know. I just flex the desperation that people want to be able to play in some of these AI themes that they're willing to overlook some pretty dubious and sketchy past. I mean, this is like a Scooby-Doo caper, the way this has turned out. And I think it really reflects some pretty poor decision making and management. And I, for one, would be staying away as much as possible. That was the most diplomatic thing. It was Julie Beal. It was perfect. It was very diplomatic. This was dubious. Scooby-dubious. Wow. Yeah. Good stuff. Zoinks. Thank you, Julie. Banks' bad month. The group is down nearly 6 % in March.

33:34Is there hope for financials to rebound from here, or will all banks in America go away? We're back right after this.

33:47All right, the S &P Bank ETF on pace for its worst month in a year. It's called the KBE. Dropped more than 5 % so far this month. Among the worst stocks in that, you've got Western Alliance Bank shares, Fifth Third, Truist, Huntington. Karen, you've been watching some of these moves. Your take. So I think it's overdone. I mean, I'm on the money center banks, which have had a horrible run also. So sort of switching that for a second. And there's a lot of things that, you know, the concern about credit quality. Are we going to see a meaningful increase in consumer problem loans? Are we going to see for the big money center banks private credit?

34:24Is that going to be a big thing? But I think there's some positives as well. I don't know why this one was ditched. This area was ditched so heavily. I actually think if I own none, I would certainly be buying right now.

34:37Karen Finerman:Yeah, I think they're getting it from all sides, though. They're getting it from some concern that they actually do have some loans into the private lending community. They're not making them directly. There's some sense that there is a an inflationary dynamic out there. There's a sense that there's a slower growth and a consumer that may fall under some pressure. But but most importantly, banks were the you know, they were the best sector going into this. The cyclicality and the sensitivity. That's why banks are what they are. And as an investment, when things were really starting to break out, they outperformed.

35:07Karen Finerman:I think this is as much about positioning. It was an absolute overweight. And I think people reeled it in. I also think you have a little bit of that crypto overhang. There's a smaller section of it with stable coins and crypto companies being able to split interest in holding treasuries for stable coins. I think that does take there's been estimates that it could take as much as 10 percent of their deposit flows on a lot of these banks. It depends on what kind of bank you own. But to Karen and Tim's point, This was about D-reg. This was about pro-growth. This was a huge ramp up that we got off the Trump bump.

35:44And now you're starting to see a lot of these stories sort of grow mold on them or grow hair on them. So at a certain point, you're taking a little bit out of them. But to Karen's statement, if she owned none, she'd probably buy them now. I think the banks have the ability to rally off a bottom. Julie Beal? Yeah, I think the level of cyclicality that the banks have is a real reflection of why people are moving away from them. It's not like they're going to be delivering a ton of growth. They've missed a lot of the opportunities that we saw in credit. Now that's going to wind back. But I do think the positive thing about them is that most of them haven't really participated in the worst of the lending.

36:22And I think they'll come out looking pretty good as long as they have good structurally strong balance sheets. But for the most part, I mean, I think people are kind of recognizing like it's a bank. There's really a limit of how much it can really do, even if we deregulate. All right. Well said. Looking at the banks are coming up. We're going to switch gears. The energy complex is getting complex or more complex. While your next guest says the oil shock is nearing a critical stage where he sees prices heading as the conflict continues. Stick around.

37:00All right. Oil prices higher today with both Brent crude and WTI crude, which is the one traded here, settling up about 3 percent for the week, though. Brent jumping about 9 percent. WTI crude slightly down, actually broke a four week win streak. Your next guest warns the oil shock is heading into a critical stage. John Kilduff joining us again. He's with again, Capital, the founder of that. John, and then, of course, we had this social media post of the president. We're still trying to unwind that. Absent of that, what's your take on energy and oil right now?

37:32Karen Finerman:The post actually feeds into a degree, Brian, because if the priority here is not on the Strait of Hormuz, then the oil price will continue to rally higher here. This is an unprecedented outage. As everyone knows, more than 10 million barrels a day are offline, will continue to be offline. And they've pulled every trick out of the book now in terms of trying to blunt the near-term effect of this with the sanctions relief on Venezuela, Russian, potentially Iranian oil, and other measures like, you know, suspending the Jones Act and the like. And the global SPR releases. All of those things, though, are unfortunately just Band-Aids on a wound that's just hemorrhaging here in terms of volumes.

38:20Karen Finerman:And so today we ended before the post hit near the near the highs for the recent trading ranges on both Brent and WTI. I know every your viewers are well aware that the Middle East markers are much higher than that. We're seeing diesel over five dollars. So without relief and control of the Strait of Hormuz taken away from Iran, which they have effectively right now, or even just the ability of Iran to terrorize ships as they try to pass through it, we are on a trajectory higher, full stop. Hey, John, Tim, you've been doing this forever. So it's great to have this conversation with you. I feel like we've we've been through some supply shocks together.

39:00Karen Finerman:But where is the damage now? So we're trying to have a conversation about, you know, and how the market is extending out timelines. But but let's just say there's a lot in this in this post that can be enacted upon. And where, you know, all we've heard about are LNG plants and cater. All we've heard about are terminals that have been blown up. What is the damage right now? And what is your sense on normalcy in a world where we get a turnaround? out? I mean, the damages that you're seeing, for example, Iraq talk about shutting down production from, oh, I'm sorry, only from the foreign operated plants that are in Iraq, which is only about 90 percent of their production.

39:44Karen Finerman:You're seeing everything done hooked and by crook to get oil out to various other pipelines by Saudi Arabia and UAE. None of it's enough. None of it's enough. This is the mother of all supply outages. I've been trying to do the math on the 1973 situation. It's close. This one is starting to exceed it. But the problem is the shut ins that we're hearing about production wise in these countries is going to take time itself to write. So there will be great relief if we can ever get the straight, the announcement that the straight is now navigable. Oil prices, I would imagine, would fall$10 to$15 a barrel.

40:21Karen Finerman:However, we're not going to be going back anytime soon to the 60s and low 50s that we were in as we were, you know, bruinating over a glut situation this time of year as opposed to the war situation we're in right now. So, John, when you look at the back months, I know the government is thinking about doing some smart swap with the SPR that has been done before, but it hasn't been done recently. What do you think about the back months? So Tim asked you where you think we settle in. The back months in WTI crude still have us dramatically lower by year end. Is that just too much of a Pollyannish viewpoint?

41:01Karen Finerman:I think it's reflective of the trapdoor that's under this market that I just referenced. Again, you get the flows going back through the straight. The prices will retreat. But those back month prices have come up markedly now as well. They're all posting over$70 a barrel for the most part. And that will be some sense of relief. But I think we have to get through. And why I said that this is the critical stage we're in, it's because the loss of supply is really going to start to bite now. We're already starting to hear about spot shortages out in Asia, especially. I already talked about the high diesel price and jet fuel out that way.

41:38Karen Finerman:But as these shortages start to grow and manifest, you're going to see the call on global crude oil all over the world, that they will take a tanker, if that's the only supply, out of the Texas Gulf and send it over to wherever it has to go. And that is going to push the prices of WTI up higher and higher, and you'll see the gap get closed that we're experiencing right now. This is an acute situation, though. This is an acute situation that the straight opening rectifies. Yeah, and that's the big question. John Kilduff, again, Capital John, really appreciate that. Julie, you're a buyer of these oil and gas stocks invested in anything?

42:15By the way, the refiners are up like 75 % in three months. Yeah, it's pretty meaningful. I think for us, we tend to avoid these kind of stocks because they're really difficult as much. relation to the commodity prices. So it's for us not a quality play, but I think it's really notable for all of us to recognize just how interconnected the markets are and how it can really ripple through our entire economy. Julie Beal, appreciate that. All right, programming note, by the way, speaking of oil, gas, and energy, we're going to be live at the CERA Week conference in Houston on Monday and Tuesday. We've got an amazing lineup, ConocoPhillips, Secretary Bergman, Secretary Wright, Lorenzo Simonelli.

42:54We've got GE Vernova. We've got you name it. We got them. We can't even fit them on the board. There's more. All right. Coming up here on Fast Money, we're going to talk housing. And if the spring selling season will truly bloom. What's next?

43:22Well, I've got some breaking news. A verdict in the case against Elon Musk for buying Twitter shares without disclosing the stake ahead of his eventual purchase of the platform. Pippa Stevens has more. Pippa. Hey, Brian. So a jury in the San Francisco federal court is holding Musk liable for misleading investors during that Twitter takeover. So this suit alleged that his flip-flopping commentary around the move to buy Twitter back in 2022 was in a bid to manipulate the stock price. Now, Bloomberg is reporting the damages paid to individual investors could total in the hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars and will be determined at a later date.

43:56Brian. All right, Pippa, thank you very much. All right, moving on. It is the first day of spring. Happy Friday. Now, this time of year normally means a big pop in home sales. But could this year be different? We've had to move up. Look at that in mortgage rates. Also, home prices are growing at a slower rate than they were last year. They're up at a slower pace. So what do we think, Tim? Like housing, how close are you watching?

44:23Karen Finerman:We I feel like all we do is talk about a housing market that can't get out of its own way. And that actually the price action in the homebuilders is disturbing. I mean, there's a dynamic also where the margins are getting a whole lot worse. I mean, the cost and the input costs here are getting worse. But that mortgage rate is what it comes down to. That mortgage rate is not is not happening. We had those new home sales numbers out on, I think it was Wednesday. They were, I think, 150 ,000 below expectations. I mean, this is a housing market that needs lower interest rates. And right now, first half of this show, what were we talking about?

44:57Karen Finerman:Rates are moving higher. Yeah, and you have the bifurcated market. You have the existing home sales. You have new home sales. Existing home sales have been locked up. People own a mortgage. They don't own a home. And in order for them to be untrapped by the mortgage rate, it's got to be somewhere in the fives. We're going the wrong direction on that. We need lower rates. The market hasn't sniffed it out yet. Usually stocks are forward-looking mechanisms. They don't see the end coming, but it's always something that shocks the most amount of people at any given point. I'm glad you're not a realtor.

45:28You don't own a home. You own a mortgage. It's not incorrect, by the way. Up next, your final trades.

45:42All right, Julie Beal, kick off final trades, if you would. One company that benefits from trade disturbance is Descartes. They help companies navigate it.

45:52Karen Finerman:Nice. Family? Friends, company. You were just in. Nice tie, too, by the way. Uranium. This is a case where, if anything, the use case for uranium, the demand cycle for uranium, very much in play. And, in fact, CCJ has sold off more on the fact that it's been a frothy trade itself. I think you're buying CCJ weakness. Okay. Karen? Yes. Mine is not SMCI. It's down a third today. It's not two-thirds as good as it was yesterday. More downside here, even with a big short interest. Not SMCI. That's your final trade. That is my final trade. Short net, she's saying, don't go near him. Steve Grasso. I feel as if you'd like to talk more about that option expiration with anyone.

46:35With anyone that would listen. Anyone in a year shot. Steve Grasso, what's your final trade? I see the clock. I know how much time I have. Delta took a tremendous hit. That probably should come to an end. Thanks for watching Fast Money, everybody. And Tim's time at Money Starts Now. Thanks, Brian.

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Stocks sell off to wrap out a second straight week of losses, with the Nasdaq entering into correction territory. The latest developments out of the Middle East weighing on markets, and if there’s more pain to come next week. Plus it’s not just equities feeling the impact, as oil continuing its climb higher. Why a top energy analyst says we’re reaching a “critical stage” in the recent oil shock, and where he sees prices heading next.

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