In short
The episode argues that corruption in India is structurally produced by the IAS/IPS system, starting from the UPSC results day and continuing through training, postings, and elite networks. It claims “steel cage” dynamics make it hard for honest officers to resist, and that corruption is enabled by discretion over permissions, transfers, and land/real-estate decisions, plus weak accountability and delayed prosecution.
Guest
Amit Kilhor, a UPSC teacher and content creator. He describes himself as teaching and mentoring UPSC candidates and discusses how the system shapes behavior.
Key claims
- Corruption begins at UPSC result time when coaching institutes demand payments from selected candidates.
- Training at Lal Bahadur Shastri Academy (for IAS/IPS) creates elitism and “moral disengagement,” normalizing favors and gifts.
- The system’s design (transfers, limited firing, strong internal lobbying, complex prosecution permissions) breaks honest officers.
- Major corruption is tied to discretionary decisions (police permissions, building approvals, postings) and land/black money investment.
Notable examples mentioned
- “Fake IAS”/fraud cases involving falsified disability documents.
- Allegations of fake EWS/land-related claims and loopholes.
- A scheme where geotagged photos were allegedly uploaded despite no real work (journalistic investigation).
- Claims about large-scale MGNREGA fraud (tens of crores) and how it affected postings.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to Corruption in India's Bureaucracy
0:00 to 2:03
Explore the nature and prevalence of corruption within India's bureaucratic system.
“The result of UPSC is the first day of the day.”
The Steel Cage of the Bureaucracy
2:45 to 4:48
Understand the historical context and current implications of India's bureaucratic structure.
“Our first government was the first Grahmanthri Valla Bhai Patel.”
Types and Dynamics of Corruption
4:48 to 7:44
Examine different forms of corruption and how they manifest within the bureaucratic system.
“1 ,000 ,000 Britishers 25 crore population Who knew by Tom Ho looked into this city still Terran之iver Petel haven't destitute because decision decision 1983 this country's unity, hold this country's place.”
The Role of UPSC Results in Corruption
7:44 to 9:23
Discover how UPSC results can catalyze corruption from the moment they are announced.
“UPSC result of the first day of the result.”
Cultural Acceptance of Corruption
9:23 to 14:01
Explore the societal norms that allow corruption to be accepted and perpetuated.
“the second training the labasana lal bahadur shastri academy where will corruption where will you be?”
Understanding Moral Disengagement in Corruption
14:01 to 15:32
Explore how individuals justify corrupt actions through moral disengagement.
“Her mother, her father was in insurance department or pension department.”
Corruption's Systematic Nature and Examples
15:33 to 18:11
Discuss the systemic nature of corruption in administrative services and examples of fraud.
“I mean, they never thought that we were morally wrong.”
The Role of Fake Certificates in UPSC
18:12 to 21:00
Examine how fake certificates play a role in corruption within the UPSC system.
“The system is so weirdly the cage is so strong.”
Corruption from Day One: First Posting Challenges
21:01 to 23:10
Analyze how corruption begins from the first day of posting in bureaucratic roles.
“okay coming back to our point so you said first elitism then the corruption starts from first day How is corruption?”
The Influence of Senior Officials on New Recruits
23:11 to 24:39
Discuss how senior officials influence new recruits in maintaining corrupt practices.
“So I will give you the first penny for the sale and I will give you your gift, I will give a gift so that when he is 5.00, then he will sign the wrong way.”
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The Connection Between Corruption and Land Deals
24:40 to 27:34
Explore the relationship between corruption and land dealings among officials.
“much over the government and much over the last thing that mới ह manifest and 하zego ですcht seet出mana.”
The Cycle of Black Money and Corruption
27:35 to 28:00
Understand the cycle of black money and how it fuels corruption in governance.
“Ki ek IES corruption karate pukkdao gaya.”
Understanding Black Money and Real Estate
28:00 to 30:20
Learn how black money influences the real estate market in India.
“Now, the criminals who have the black money, they have some equity in some stock market, they do the investment in land.”
The Cycle of Corruption in Government
30:20 to 32:30
Explore the cycle of corruption that entraps government officials and the impact on society.
“that there is no land that is going on a dispute, a criminal is going on a dispute, a IPS got a knowledge.”
The Challenges of Honest Officials
32:30 to 34:20
Understand the challenges faced by honest officials within a corrupt system.
“Plum posting means where the revenue can be, where the land is going, where it's economically well to do.”
Consequences of Corruption on Society
34:20 to 41:40
Discuss the societal consequences and the perception of law enforcement in a corrupt system.
“India's powerful post-up prime minister is SHO.”
The Structure of Corruption in Law Enforcement
41:40 to 42:00
Analyze how the structure of law enforcement enables corruption.
“So if somebody is not willing to bend the rules for you, just put him in the archives department.”
Understanding Corruption in Government Jobs
42:00 to 44:26
Learn about the complexities of corruption in India's bureaucratic system, including the challenges honest officers face.
“Now this man, that the whole life completely non-purposeful and put him into an absolutely department.”
Case Studies of Corruption
44:26 to 46:48
Examine specific instances of corruption involving government projects and the lack of accountability in public service.
“Ganga Express was built in a big infrastructure project with 2-3-4000 crore-tropel.”
Exploring the Impact of Bureaucratic Processes
46:48 to 49:16
Discover how bureaucratic processes contribute to inefficiency and corruption in government schemes.
“I'm trying to take a photo from the distance.”
The Role of Middlemen in Corruption
49:16 to 51:56
Investigate how middlemen and complex layers of bureaucracy facilitate corruption and hinder accountability.
“In a fake account, there was money coming out of the fake account.”
The Consequences of Corruption on Governance
51:56 to 56:00
Understand the long-term consequences of corruption on governance and how it affects public resources and trust.
“But here is the money that comes from here.”
Understanding Corruption in Bureaucracy
56:00 to 57:40
Explore the mechanisms of corruption within Indian bureaucracy, including the role of district magistrates.
“I will give a builder to you, and he will give you money.”
Cultural Mindsets and Hoarding Behavior
57:40 to 59:30
Discuss how cultural mindsets contribute to hoarding behavior in India, reflecting on historical economic contexts.
The Ineffectiveness of Salary Increases
59:30 to 1:01:10
Analyze why simply increasing salaries won't solve systemic corruption in civil services.
Historical Roots of Bureaucratic Corruption
1:01:10 to 1:02:50
Examine the historical context of bureaucratic corruption in India and its colonial origins.
Challenges in Civil Services Reforms
1:02:50 to 1:04:50
Discuss the challenges and resistance faced in implementing reforms within Indian civil services.
“آپ کو پتا ہے کہ آپ کا dog کسی کو بھی اندر انتری نہیں کرنے دیرہا.”
The Role of AI in Bureaucratic Efficiency
1:04:50 to 1:06:50
Speculate on how AI could potentially change the dynamics of bureaucracy in India.
Impact of Social Media on UPSC Aspirations
1:06:50 to 1:10:00
Explore how social media has altered the perception and approach towards UPSC examinations in India.
Progressive Taxation in India
1:10:00 to 1:10:51
Discussion on the need for progressive taxation in India and its potential impact.
Youth and Accountability
1:10:51 to 1:11:51
Exploration of how youth engagement in governance could lead to accountability.
Nehru's Leadership Challenges
1:11:51 to 1:13:11
Analysis of Jawaharlal Nehru's historical context and the challenges he faced.
India's Complex Identity
1:13:11 to 1:14:25
Discussion on India's diverse identities and the challenges of unification.
Liberty and Stable Society
1:14:25 to 1:15:51
Debate on the importance of liberty in creating a stable society.
“کس تو ایسے religion ہیں جن کا لوگ نام ہی نہیں پتا.”
China's Economic Strategy
1:15:51 to 1:17:18
Examination of China's economic strategies and their implications on global power dynamics.
“Everybody is free, everybody is Liberty.”
Geopolitical Tensions and Strategies
1:17:18 to 1:18:41
Discussion on the geopolitical strategies of China and the USA.
China's Imperial Aspirations
1:18:41 to 1:20:05
Insight into China's aspirations and strategies to establish itself as a superpower.
Technological Advancements and Global Rivalry
1:20:05 to 1:24:01
Discussion on technological advancements in China and their impact on global rivalry.
Geopolitical Dynamics: US-China Relations
1:24:01 to 1:30:14
Understanding the complex relationship between the US and China in terms of power dynamics and technological competition.
India's Strategic Alliances with Europe
1:30:14 to 1:31:43
Exploring India's diplomatic efforts to build stronger ties with European nations and reduce dependence on China and Russia.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The bureaucracy of India is corrupt. Where is the corruption? The result of UPSC is the first day of the day. The result of UPSC is the first day of the day. Every day, the country has many coaching institutes. All the money you have to use your photo, your name. The first day of the day, they start to start the money. Amit Kilhor, a UPSC teacher and content creator, today they shared UPSC and IAS system. The Untold Reality, which you all know is very important. Why can't you remove an IAS? The cage is so strong. Even a god cannot remove an IAS. Everyone is getting the most important people. The MLA's are meeting you.
0:37The MP's are meeting you. You are going to go and the traffic police are calling you. You are going to drive cars. You are elite, you are different, you are at something else. These are all you are below. Where do they keep all this cash? They know that the highway is going to be left here. In Bhopal, I remember 50 IAS. 50 IAS did common land, so it was 5.5 crore. After that, they left there and they passed the highway.
1:19The idea of the nation is already built into it. It is a country, it is a country, it is a country, it is a country. It is a country, it is a country, it is a country. In India, there are 500 identities, 500 languages, 50 religions. The announcement from the government was 1 ,000 ,000 rupees. It is a poor person who has 1 ,000 ,000 rupees to make a house. How much is it? How much will they reach?
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2:44You said in your briefing that IAS is not a steel frame of India, a steel cage of India. Why? Our first government was the first Grahmanthri Valla Bhai Patel. When Britishers were going, they said we'll keep the civil services. Because the Englishers were built. So they said, this is the steel frame of India. This is why I need it. After 70 years, I'm saying that IS, the bureaucracy, the IPS, they are the steel cage of India. India has been kept trapped due to these IS and IPS. This bureaucracy has kept it in India. India, when it was the sun, it didn't get up again. Why? Because it was in the steel cage in the past 70 years.
3:26Why do you say so? Why do you say so? It's a system, the bureaucratic system that has been created. Step by step. Step by step. Look, when we were ruling the English, they had to extract resources from the people. And the information was to shield people from the people. And the third person was to control people. So that they could never be 1857. In their mind, there was an IES and an IPS. IES. IES ka kām hai ki bhai sahab jameen ko land ko control karo land sari mere paas honi chahi revenue ko control karo sare ke sare forest ko mein control karo ga thik hai? اور IPS ka yi kām hai ki joh bhi aadmi jada uddhan dhundh machaye 1857 kar revolt dhwara ni honi chahi.
4:11Us ko mein control karo ga protest nahi honi chahi. This is law and order maintain kari kari. Isi system ko hum nai apna liya. Hama azad ho gai 1947 mein. Lekin ye wala joh steel cage hai ye exactly waisa kari waisa raya gaya. this cage has been enslaved Britishers have enslaved where did you get enslaved this is the pinjara IES and IPS this system they created that system they created it the legal system India's and IES and the bureaucracy that's enslavement when you hear Britishers enslaved India what does it mean? 1 ,000 ,000 Britishers 25 crore population Who knew by Tom Ho looked into this city still Terran之iver
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5:20decision 1983 this country's unity, hold this country's place. But after 1947, what was their work, they didn't do that. They work the first work. They work the steel cage. They didn't do that. The frame's work is to hold everything together and let everybody fly. Give everyone to the cage. The cage's work is to put all the places where they are, which is what they have done and they have been very successful to do it. You have given such a big statement, you have said that this is a steel cage, this is a dweak, this is our sun, to be able to get back to the government. There is no reason. What is the biggest reason?
5:48Corruption is right in the face. But the bureaucracy of India Barring the good officers, there are honest officers is corrupt. But everyone can be corrupt. Everyone can say it. If I say something happens it's just a general statement that it's part of the system. If you keep the majority if you keep the majority, in the world, you will have more corrupt people or non-corrupt people. And corrupt people, it means to do wrong work. When you say corruption, everybody will say, is something wrong? Is this a moral problem? No, no. They are taking the right work. Understand that. See, this is a simple thing.
6:29Just as we see in a small bit, we think about corruption, our mind is that it is a very negative thing. And someone is sitting and doing wrong and we feel something evil, Will then guy, who purchased 10 procrastination prior to it. Corruption was 93 % was being 10 people. since the criminal work had 100 % right, it wasn't true. We have 100 percent Robes for 7只是,
6:58now people who have been sitting here for a long time, he wanted to be 1.65 lakhs price, he had Rest 3 down5 lakhs. We have never failed ceasus, work that is where the majority of the corruption that happens but that is also corruption 100 % I don't defend it but yeah I just wanted to differentiate that there are two types of corruption first of all the person is wrong file is doing law is doing villain understand but then there is a majority of this mundane corruption also day to day which is the job of doing it. That's why it's going to go. Where does it start? Where does it start? Step by step by step.
7:40Where does it start? IS corruption where does it start? First day of the selection. First day of the result. UPSC result of the first day of the result. That's the first day of the result. Corruption starts. How does it start? UPSC result of the result. Every year UPSC exam is for civil services. The US and IPSC exam is for every year. Every year 200 IPSC exam. 180CIS has for every year. That's the result of the result. Finally. I will take a list of merit because they are taken from 1000 children. That day, the amount of coaching institutes in our country, all of them have money to take to use your photo, your name, in the afternoon result, by the evening, those IPS children who are selected, they are living in the camera in the past 4 years.
8:23Now, they have to sit in their house for 20-25-25-25-25-25. That's the first day. It's the first experience of there that one their life literally changes after one or one minute that exact second moment is second they have absolutely fundamentally different life before that someone will kill them in the road and throw them into jail if they will not wear a helmet after that something else the first day they start getting money the first day I can tell you I can assure you with that so everyone will be able to do it all rankers will be able to do it first of all do this rankers moral issue why do not effect you need dok you need to spend on purpose 10 lakh rupees allora féoto sil literal tuYouTube channel to come on some it takes yourself present that took me study study study no no control et I peine I me forward before my name Snow the child who is IS this child is first of all his youth is being all the friends are doing something they have a family some of them are doing work some of them are struggling also so when it comes to 5 years when it comes to this this is not a mistake again so corruption results of the day starts to get because that day the coaching institute will get to the house and take the money that you have to come will become our ranker also and this is not the corruption because why not I am not able to understand just because it is acceptable to everyone all of them everybody is doing it if everybody is doing it then it cannot be wrong it cannot be wrong it cannot be wrong and here it is not gone there is no moral issue it is not a systematic problem you have shifted your moral compass it is a little bit it is one degree but here it is start oh yeah this is where they start fair or yeah toh joh achse student right the good the good one who's who are morally uptight upright who who bhi kar lye de kya in ko bhi usmeh galti ni lag rhi they are also not realizing ki agar tuhne ek bar kisi se paisi lehi liye toh it's like it's it's just a abdubass matter of time hai abdubass matter of time hai so that is where it starts yasab se phele wala joh hai where do you think?
10:51the second training the labasana lal bahadur shastri academy where will corruption where will you be? I'm a teacher of UPSC I'm a lot of students I'm talking about them first almost every one of the sentiments everybody will say sir I'm teaching elite here what do you mean? It means that you are elite, you are something else and everybody else is below you. Why? Because you are. In real terms also. You train yourself that you are elite. Yes. You are making classes? Yes. No way. 100%. How? How do you train? How do you train? In the past, everyone is getting great people. The cream of the society, the power centers of the society, The MLA's are meeting you.
11:46The MP's are meeting you. You are being treated. You are, you are, what do you mean, 6 months ago, you were a student that you had 8 ,000 rupees of rent in the room. You are doing dinner with DGP, you are doing something with you. You are going to go somewhere, you are calling the police, traffic police, you are calling the police. You are going to travel in the country. You are going to go to the country. Where you are going, you are going to be a pure luxury mistake. Out and out, that whole training of two years is basically to tell you that you are elite, you are different you are as something else, these are all you are below first, one of my students was made IPS in 2012 when he went to IPS training he was here he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said and then he posted his posting after he got he was he was just like this is this is so ordinary and normal because it's not like he learnt it just by experience or he got used to it this is what is taught in that system that they are elite how many people in police station like field trips like to a part of the training for them her government officer immediately she is a child she is a trainer she is not here she is not IPS but they are being treated that this is it they don't post in that village even in that village in that village in that village but then when police station or a church office they get treatment that the village is coming what happens when you teach that you are a king and you are a king who is a king from the village it is a different so just like you are going to go just like you are king perception king
13:47can do no wrong okay so you can do no wrong so you can do no wrong so you can do I have talked to many people who are corrupt none of the corrupt people feel they are doing wrong sometimes we feel like they are doing morally wrong things do they know that they are doing morally wrong things or is it making them guilty it is not they don't even feel it is wrong I don't know I didn't know I didn't know I was doing a preparation I was a girl she was a disease so she was in the hospital so I got to get her so she was Mina her last name she was a girl her father was in the Rajasthan administrative services something so I'm sitting in the hospital the girl is sleeping because she was sick or ill.
14:37Her mother was sitting here. Her mother, her father was in insurance department or pension department. Her mother, the girl was 26 or 27, her mother was sitting there and she was justifying me. She said, I'll tell you one more. I said, I said, she never did wrong. She doesn't kill her. She doesn't take her.
14:58She doesn't take her. She doesn't do any shame. She takes her. She takes her. and I was like, what do I say, brother? I couldn't say anything. And so, those were Rajasthan Admission Services but what was their lifestyle or what they had to buy money, you could see that uncle is doing a lot of work working on it. But the wife and the kid everybody was aware and willingly acceptable to it. Okay. It's true, everyone. I was taught in psychology I was taught that I was talking about moral disengagement theory. Moral disengagement, absolutely. I mean, they never thought that we were morally wrong. It's like, the moral disengagement theory is that in small parts, something is wrong.
15:45And when everyone is doing it, it seems normal. Or it seems so necessary for this work. Or it's a victim, like if someone is taking a harm from us. And when it happens, you keep telling yourself, you have to be disengaged, you feel like you are corrupt. Just to point out, Nazi Germany, there is also a normal society how to kill 6 million Jews and gypsies in the gas chambers. The middle class, the normal people, the good people, they are not showing them. It happened that they are slippery slope. The corruption starts on the first day of the result. because that day it feels like you can get money that's not wrong what is wrong similarly here the training of the Ullabasana which is the training which is the training they tell us that you are the elite of the society you are the team of the society this time they start a little bit of favor in favor MLA will go and make them MPA will make them photo order they will get a gift to it people are like people are like people are like people are like elite people are like good society or big people they start reaching out to them and the only way to reach out to them is to send a gift if you go to someone to get a gift you should take it that thing becomes and they take it the gift the first gift doesn't feel bad right they don't have to get a gift now if I come to your house and I have a gift that is not the gift right so it will keep normal then it will keep another then it will keep another then the third then the fourth then the fifth and then when the favor comes it seems that it doesn't know who was the one who changed the favor first you got to get rid of it when it became a phone when it became a MacBook when it became a iPhone when it was used to use it when the phone comes and it will have to return a little favor so like that and then obviously the core systematic corruption that comes with the first posting literally from the first posting what?
17:49A interesting case is what I guess is IAS is not sondern Fraud IAS fake fake IAS what happens fake IAS and fraud IAS word I am not saying but as in she has her documents used to use she faked her documents so she was not physically handicapped but she was fake physical handicapped document and there are numbers of attempts are limited so when her attempt has been changed the name change change and she got away with it she got selected as an IES she was put in probation in Pune and it was still fine she didn't do that she did complate that she a collector office she did her her audit was on her so she attracted a lot of attention and that's why she was but such a tough exam such a rigid sub process did there any document put in her physical handicap there was a lot of examination in UPSC there are many documents there is a literal list on the internet which has been created in collaboration with some of the people at least 20 to 25 doubtful.
19:14Physical handicapped is a very fake.
19:19The system is so weirdly the cage is so strong. Even a God cannot remove an I.S. If the God is coming then after an I.S. can't get it. After that it has been kept the case. And I swear to God I would not be surprised if he wins and reigns straight. I would not be surprised by that. Fake certificates are a lot of UPSC. I would not call this corruption of the... Because students make fake certificates So this is not the corruption of the next clerks. But yes, when you enter the system and enter the rule, you are a big believer, but if you pass it, what will happen? EWS, economically weaker section, there are 10 % reservations.
20:02EWS means that the annual income is less than 8 ,000 ,000. And there are also some of the right areas. All the fake ones are closed. nobody is willing to check it because it's a loophole as in there are so many ways to do those loopholes like a famous IS he had told me he had many land those who were his mother's property he had all his mother's mother's name he had the ITR he had the EWS certificate he got selected he was he was complaining and inquiring he's running from 2 years no meaning and he'll win he'll win in the sense that even if this case goes to supreme court the answer would be that that the land was removed that EWS was in that time they'll find that loophole, the lawyer will easily find it that what you're complaining about this EWS certificate is valid legit what is the complaint bro okay coming back to our point so you said first elitism then the corruption starts from first day How is corruption?
21:10It's so easy to do. If someone goes somewhere posting, what is corruption? It's easy because all the decisions are not in the hands. Tomorrow or in the morning. You mean three most basic, most popular ways which are corrupt when they offer day one. In my heart there are three basic ways. One is simple favor, waiver. All the decisions that are in a case of IES and in law and order context, police. You have to give permission to someone, you have to give permission to any construction or building construction you have to give permission to this builder that you have to give 10 ,000 people to 10 ,000 people to get to this and then you have to give permission to this so that permission should also be able to get it?
21:46that's what I am saying that it should be able to get it but you don't do the file, it's not going to come up when you will get the money to legal work then why do you do it? but everyone will take a little bit here will be a little compromise this is the start I will not say that every IES which you meet is a corrupt person. Absolutely not, 100 % not. It's just a systematic thing. They don't do it. Obviously, whatever happens, it's corrupt. Yes, I don't want to paint on the first posting, they're going to do it next month. But then there are examples. First posting, so many people are getting hit, so many complaints are getting hit.
22:22First posting, if they're getting hit, if they're getting hit on the IES probationary, IES, if they're getting hit on the IES probation, then you can think how widely it is. And one thing, you can bend the rules, the contractors start to get them, the relations inculcated, because they know that not only 6 months later, all decisions will be made. You are a government contractor, you have taken a contract from government to put a paper in a 100 acres, now the paper is the money, it doesn't need the collector. and it's a 안돼. The NEAR thing is that collector never called if it Interior even formulated and everyone is too scared.
23:01After совсем, it's beyond an unintended guarantee, I ambliable. The mistake is that I won't get any enough. I will now! After nie CE1 times the deduction will be whenever I will pay hectare credit for signing такой care. I should spend time with that time. So I will give you the first penny for the sale and I will give you your gift, I will give a gift so that when he is 5.00, then he will sign the wrong way. Because he will not be late for 2 months, I will be bankrupt. And the collector doesn't feel corrupt right now. Why? Because he has not done anything wrong. He is not doing anything illegal.
23:36Everything is illegal. So, is it illegal to get a gift? Officially not legal. But then? But how do you do the gift track? If I give you something here, I will give you a mobile phone. How is anybody going to track it? I mean, the collector's life is so much a public life. It's so much a fear. The collector's life means that the public approach can be made by it. But if you get the money, it can never be taken away. If the collector's life is public, we all know where we are from. But the inquiry can sit on anyone. I know only God can remove an IAS. How many inquiries? You don't know expertise.
24:16Your audience doesn't know. So tell me how many IAS have cut out.
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24:58and in the beginning from day one is it in the form of that you have come to dinner or you have sent your home to vacation by the time when you go to the first posting you have met all of them tell us what are you doing? Who are you all? In the training, you are from IS and IPS. They are basically getting the seniors. They are all who are. They are all connected. How many are you? There are 5000 IPS and 5000 IPS. They are all telling seniors if you are in my territory or going here. They all tell us. That conversation starts. Don't be difficult. This is not your exam. not being naive, be practical.
25:44You are telling the senior IAS that you see, you are a little... Yes, I say that senior IAS actually gives the juniors immediately information that you have to be a job so you should be practical. And practical means? Practical means that if you take a contractor to get a gift, then you don't take it out of your camera. Don't go out. Actually, people say that. In training, you know which ISIP is going to go to which district. Which district is going to go to the state. The carder tells us who is going to function in the whole life. All the carders of all the people have contacted us before reaching the country.
26:28My name is D.J. I'm a big man. I'm a big IPS. I'm 55 years old. So, this year's batch came. IPS I saw who is in the Maharashtra card who is in the Maharashtra card I know that after 3 years I have retired I will make them I will make them I will call them I will call them and this happens with all the big people MLAs MPs contractors all of these people anybody else corporate also who wants the connections how do you make connections you will make when you are taking all the phone if it is being made IES 6 years you will not take your phone you will not take your phone this is the door is open right now for him to be a friend with anybody.
27:08So you catch him, you catch the fish as early as possible. As soon as he gets up, he gets up as early as possible. So relationship inculcation begins very early during the training. Because you know that this guy is coming to Mara's, this guy is coming to that. And the interaction with seniors. The seniors know that they've lived 30-25 years and they know that they don't have anything. You need to enjoy your postings. So where do they keep all this cash? Land. Sara ka Sara. Jho ye corruption ka paise. Land. Aap kabhi bhi jabbi pukkdao. Jabbi aap news ppdhougay. Ki ek IES corruption karate pukkdao gaya.
27:46Ye 1000 kroda ka. Ye 600 kroda ka. Last minute ni chay likha hooga ki. Usne farm. Uske farmhouse pukkda gaya hai. Ye 45 flat pukkda kaya hoogay. Land. Dekho. Ek district jho hoota na. Uska jo sabse bada gunda hai. Voh IPS hoota hai. Thaik hai? Agar kisi ko bhajam ho ki koji or. IPS is the most important thing. Now, the criminals who have the black money, they have some equity in some stock market, they do the investment in land. IPS has all the conflicted lands, and information. All of this is the district, which land is not on the same land. As an IPS goes, all the criminals say, Amna His name pray supposed to be Where eles tell the land to live in this house勿司りρ Take that and form the black money הג 사용s Because there is no permission for its building All that money is revolving Dr.
28:49Ali Mumbayi Then I would not Mumbayistone is the person not valid But when it comes to good towns prayer and later NCR area there is no flat 4-5-5 crore but our per capita income that is not going up to 1.5 lakhs means if a normal person 10-15 lakhs, 20 lakhs, 20 lakhs, 20 lakhs gets a good salary if it goes to a flat then it will be a flat why is the real estate of NCR so massively inflated why? as much as IIS or IPS all that black money goes there buying the plots buying the flats they can't invest they are not entrepreneurs they start up they can't do it gold gold they are the store of the value and the increase of that value only comes from the land and the land is again controlled by the IS and IPS they know the highway will be left here now we have 50 IS 50 IS common land was 5.5 crore compared to common interest
30:06It is the least of the corruption. It is the least of the corruption. It is the least of the corruption. It gets more convulated that there is no land that is going on a dispute, a criminal is going on a dispute, a IPS got a knowledge. Rather than helping you or the victims, he will collect that criminal. He says, if you work, you put a building. The building money will also be. The criminal will also be. The building permission will give the IPS. He will give the two floors.
30:58How common it is? It'll be so common that we should be really sad that this happens. It's so common. Every share. Every share. All tier 2 share, tier 3 share, if anyone can see, you can easily assume that the money of the IEP, IES is here.
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31:23Then, okay, what next? Then what happens? Then where? What are the ways? What is the point actually where there's no going back? That man is so confused that he took the rank of money and then he took the friendship, power, dinner, elitism. The first day contractor gave money. you are in the system there is no point of return that if someone is conscious then there is no meaning because you are deep in trouble no point of return particularly every person will be different but if we talk generally so no point of return when he gets scared when he becomes a family till the time you don't have a family you have to break a IES to break it.
32:15If it's honest, he doesn't want to do corruption. He has to break it. He married and he's a child. He's got to go to school. He's put it on the border of Nepal, Sitapur. He's married and his wife is good. His family is good. He's going to go there alone. Now they want the plum posting. They want the plum posting. Plum posting? Plum posting means where the revenue can be, where the land is going, where it's economically well to do. my
33:12Delhi is the same, but Noida is a district which is a very Noida, Delhi, Bombay Bombay is one so this posting I can tell you it's a allegation but if Noida, NDA, Noida, Goodgaon the big posting that comes to the higher union ministry level so posting to the post It feels like it. They also have to give it to somebody. Is it, they have to say, that someone has to give money in posting, or someone just says, I'll be ready to do whatever. No, no, no. Both ways. It's a thing that's a favour. If you are, if you have a powerful hand behind it, MP or MLA, then you will do it. Then you will reach it. In many areas, you can do it directly.
34:07I'm just ready to give you the cost of this. I will give you an IPS. IPS is a little bit like this. IPS is a little bit like this. It's not that SHO assigns. SHO is a code. India's powerful post-up prime minister is SHO. It's SHO. It's SHO. One SHO is 2 crore rupees. If you want to give 2 crore rupees, I will give you a SHO. Why? Because SHO controls the whole area. IPS actually goes to the field. ? meaning it is one of our mainيع control isesz金 53 %vernal
35:09ihrem group no. Police a helmet traffic police can't leave a helmet. So if anyone leaves a big criminal criminal. See any criminal case people are willing to pay anything right. If in a small area 50 ,000 people live in a day 10 15 criminal cases right. That's a random number but still criminal case you're willing to pay anything. who is not willing to pay anything and in serious cases there is a limit of the case murder cases there is a limit of the money but in the lower lower the money can be prepared to give anything with their capacity people will pay literally 50 % of their whole property to get out of it murder cases you will give 50 % property like that for the child's child's child's child's child and what do they have to do they have to write a fire wrong they have to give evidence they have to give evidence they have to give a witness they have to give a witness they have to give a procedure
36:13I am not going to get the wrong person with the procedure. I am just saying that this is how they justify themselves. This is how you justify. One thing happens to be that the victim is going to kill the victim, kill the victim, kill the victim, kill the victim. That's what happened. The witness is going to kill the victim. so much evil. No such thing. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You can be able to convince when you have done it here. If you have done it, when you have the case watertight, then the court will convince it. Don't do it. Don't do it.
37:01Don't leave it. And they know the law. Obviously, don't leave it. Don't do it. Every, see, Look, simple thing is, why this cage thing, why do I say it's a steel cage or why it's a steel frame? So, I think it's an Englishman who has made it. It's as simple as that. IPS's purpose is not to serve you. You have to be subject to it. It's the purpose of it. It's the whole DNA. But how many people help us? We are just going to go and not. Society will be wild. ho jayegi. In loggone control me rakh rakh ha in loggone actually aapne hat me cheez rakh rakh that's why you're able to see there's some kuch to dar nai to khulla log criminal crime kare gai gai they maintain law and order no doubts about it aisa koi nai he to 1930 mein bhi kar rhe he law and order to maintain kar nahi he he to purpose he main purpose but law and order subjugate I don't know about you but I know that I'm afraid of going to the police and a normal ordinary man is afraid of going to the police and a bad man is afraid of going to the police and a bad man is afraid of going to the police why?
38:14tell me why if they are to serve us law and order maintain good job, help help when I say overarching statement I don't say that I don't say that I don't say that I don't say that I don't say that I don't say that. But I'm just saying, in a manner of saying, Why do people fear the ordinary police from ordinary people? I swear, I'm genuinely scared. I've been angry at 35 years. I've been engaged with police. My experience is sharing my experience. I've never felt that they are there to help me. I've been... I'm running around in any context. I am very heart beat, anxiety always. I just don't feel friendly.
39:02Is he not police friendly? You tell him. Because they were created to subjugate the city.
39:12Polis 1857. 1857 was withdrawing. Then English people had to control and have a system of food. a area to manage that system you don't go out in English movies you will see the police reach out is like here you can So we'll be safe. One way or the other. And you can, you feel that you can reach out to the police in America or in Britain. They are probably helpful. They are here to do something. Are you confident enough that you can go to the police station and you'll tell your complaint and you'll be like, I don't, at least very categorically and only saying for myself. I'm afraid I'm not service based.
40:11why? because you have to read a a whole person in your life can't how? he's a case he was just he was talking about traffic he said something about it he was talking about public officials it's allowed to be inspector or ssh to do it if he's a whole person he's a whole person he's a whole person he thinks because he is suppressed but in the sense when it comes if an inspector is like this he can screw you up in like thousand manners which we will not be able to imagine you know there were two three names which I found out that Satyendra Dubey who killed him then Sanjeev Chaturvedi who transferred Tevis time to Tevis time these were the people who have been known that this corruption against and with them So how does a system break a good honest person?
41:17Simple irrelevant binao. A Maharajhti officer is a man. He's called 25 transfer. The most simple tool in political class. Or Ashok Khemka, 50 transfer. Honest officer is a simple irrelevant. Because the posting of these. IIS and the IPS are in hand of the political class. So if somebody is not willing to bend the rules for you, just put him in the archives department. Cut up. Now think about this man, he's the cream of India when it comes to brains, right? He's brilliant. He's smart. He has learned all. He knows everything. He actually came to, and this is honest. So this means, this is actually service intention.
42:01This is gem. This is service intention. Now this man, that the whole life completely non-purposeful and put him into an absolutely department. One clerk will get one driver will get two government officers in four months, five months, six months, two years, four years. The mind breaks, right? Honest officers can do something and fire. Criminal can't do anything. I.S. or political class can do something. But it can be irrelevant immediately to be able to do. But why can't anyone fire? Fire? I.S. Why can't I.S. It's just a constitutional process so that they can be independent. That was a constitutional process.
42:41So, for firing them, like the IAS and IPS, they are union government employees. But they work in state governments. Okay? So, now state governments are under-cumperial work. So, the state government is under-cumperial work. Home minister or MLA is a state chief. How do they say that? They are actually union government employees. So, they are higher-ergy maintain. So, they are prosecuted to them. in the complaint you have to give the permission from union government which is kind of thing that you have to give the permission from union government that they have to condition that they are my employee and then after that the whole process of their corruption the judicial system is delayed as I said you can just do the corruption by just not doing the right thing and they are insiders so they will come to break it's very easy to do it one's IPS another's IPS complaint no, never They have very strong lobby.
43:36They can encounter anybody and after encountering others, some or the other the solidarity of the IPS lobby and the IS lobby is kind of legendary. Nothing can go against them. If there is a political class against them, the whole lobby turns against the political class. Then they attack that. They leave the people honest. They will be irrelevant. You just can't hit them. You can't go after them. They have a very strong lobby. You can't go against any IES IPS. Forget us. We can't go against any other way. As in the system also doesn't go. Powerful man can't go. Powerful man can't go. And it's designed this way.
44:11It has been designed. Yeah, it's been lobbying. But if someone is doing wrong work, corrupting or something wrong, forget it, all of them are very big. Someone has promised to be a district, an area, and he doesn't do it. Incapable, incompetent. Or he doesn't. because I'm sure some people are incompetent even if they are good they promote the incompetent they will have to keep the incompetent they will have to keep keep because there is no output and outcome outcome sorry output and outcome responsibility accountability why? look suppose that IEA said that this is 100 toilets this output will make 100 toilets now Now, if there was an outcome that the money was closed to the farm, health indicators, hygiene was increased, they don't count, they don't capture the scheme.
45:13Ganga Express was built in a big infrastructure project with 2-3-4000 crore-tropel. The outcome was celebrated, that is celebrated, the celebration was finished. now we have worked on it now on that one, no one will talk about this outcome that what Ganga Express which is made in Eastern Uttar Pradesh that has started the industrial engine or not? why not? nobody is there to ask the question you can ask the question people can ask the people they are not accountability they are not the system people ask MLA or MBC they are gone for 5 years IAS or IPS This outcome Output outcome accountability That's not You can see IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS IAS for water, for water, for the project, the kooa had been made by many people.
46:14It was 100 crore rupes. It was sanctioned. It was 100 crore rupes, and it was made by one kooa. It was a fake photo chip. They have to click the photographs, geotag it, and then they have to upload it on the system. They also do auditing and accounting. They also do the same thing. 100 crore rupes, one kooa did not make a kooa. The pot is open, the vrkshar open, Some investigative journalists found that story. It happened there. It happened there. Sometimes I'm frauding. I'm trying to put it in a way. I'm trying to take a photo from the distance. I'll tell you that it was 2000. It was all empty.
46:59It was all empty, bro. The Middle East and the Rajasthan was one of the sky. The sky was the sky. The sky was the sky. The sky was the sky. a good IA from popular social media star. We made 80 ,000. 80 ,000 made a job. The photo was taken from Gemini. They uploaded the website. They uploaded on the website. And then these IA received award, in Bangladesh and Rajasthan. They received award from the President for the amazing execution of the scheme. And there was no reality? No, it was not. not the award. After the award, I know it's really good. Yes, tell me. But the investigation didn't get done?
47:45Who did the investigation? That's the same. How is it possible? It's right in front of you. It's like this. It's the same. Who does it? It's the same. Who does it? It's the corruption. Everyone has the money. The MLA has the money. The MP has the money. The contractor has the money. that's the money. So when you take the money down, you have to go up and get the money. So dude who is going to ask any of you? So no accountability. Zero. And no investigation authority. The investigation authority is so complex. You leave it and leave it. Enjoy it. What is a fraud? What is a thousand crores? It's a long drawn process.
48:31The union ministers, the union ministry, that the prosecution will give permission. Prosecutor's permission is 95 years old. One IS in 2008, he has put action on his actions. He has put in 2006, and has fired. So tell me how, let's say 100 rupees government gives. Okay. That a scheme is 100 rupees, a farmer who is sitting in Bahar, that is the scheme for the money. That 100 rupees you will get. Actually, we are talking about the real. that the government said because my maharat ji was gone and went to the government and wrote his name so the government said how much money will get you per person I think that it will be 1 ,00 ,000 and the government announced it so now the government announced that it was 1 ,00 ,000 when the government announced that it was a poor person who would get 1 ,00 ,000 and that it would be a house how much will it be reaching Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi gave a statement that one rupiah is that is probably 5-15 that is coming to us it has increased the systems are better technology and it tracks two ways one is infrastructure like making a way to make to open the market open in this as you tell me, you can always get 100 % in that 100 crore it was not it was not it was it is the benefit needs to reach to the person in this if I'll have to make a of the top estimate I think people get to people with 100 and that is specifically because the government has made accounts so the benefit middle man which is the same thing and the same thing is the benefit of transfer and the same thing again, we started to get a lot of loop holes and frauds started to get started with the I don't remember the last name and the same thing is 83 crore MG Narega is a scheme which government has to provide employment for the people for the year 100 days for the 100 days they tell us that you will be unskilled work you have to do a job, you have to make a bill or you have to build a construction and the payment is coming from government.
50:57So, she had all the fake entry. In a fake account, there was money coming out of the fake account. 83 crore. And what was that with her? She got a better posting now. I swear I'm not even kidding. This is not a joke also. She also had to reinstate her for a while, for a while, in a while, suspended her. And this has been proven publicly that they have done it. It doesn't happen in the world. I mean, you have such a big charge, I have already told you. You have such a big charge, 83 crore rupees fraud, if you go to an IS, then you will get the whole suspension. Everybody knows the information. If it's just a year after a year, then the only logical conclusion is that the money reached where it was supposed to be reached.
51:47it didn't reach before so this is why this is coming now it reached where it reached so from this like now 100 rupees you said right we will reach 25 rupees to the beneficiary the rest of the 75 how much it is in the department where it is in the department from the top to bottom I swear non-debatably from top to bottom so how many layers if you have to put out a guess no 7-8 layers do you think these layers are right layers
52:27precisely exactly yes yes exactly and as i said 25 and i think that is 15 to 40 25 this is every department you are saying that state's top office is coming from there, then goes to the secretary, then the chief secretary, then the divisional commissioner. This is where it becomes fun. Here is the discretion. The district collector. Here is the money. But here is the money that comes from here. But what does it say? The field above is more into policies. They are more into policies. So they will give corporate benefits. Okay. okay okay okay okay policy alcohol policy I will renew or I will give you more license but finally the discretionary decision making that you have 100 crore allocate for the house for the house so he has the most protection highest level of control now this can be something after this this Ciud decided agriculture, then block officer…
53:45Yes they get known… They get built on my own capital Everything greed… then come here, it's a result built this country The money is right business we go down the el trig We go down the basket Now Oh many depend the you deserve to give니다 Here the goldman gave them then the top 100000원 and they had сами So, call him the beneficiary. If you give this 25 ,000, we will release it. They will give you 50. It's very common. Don't be surprised. It's a lot. But it was not before. It was before. All I know is before. It was before and now it was. There is no change. Where has changed? Tell me what has changed.
54:34Please tell me. Except they made a new website. and told that the work of development has to be uploaded. What changed is that? It's exactly the same thing which was 20 years ago. No, the money you gave to you, that's online you get all the permissions. That's what I'm saying. Those changes, that's just me and you, who have the services, like the passport, are able to access these services, so the petty corruption was gone. That the first passport was going offline, line jana pardata tha, woh file rog lhe day ta hajaar, do, tina hajar, tu wo petty corruption hatt gai hai, par jho major corruption hai, petty corruption to dhekho, the moment you put a system online, to uspere usko track kia jasakta hai, uske delay track kia jasakta hai, right, wo centrally track kia jasakta hai, to petty corruption hatt jayegi immediately, koye aapko yeh nix bholega ka, mahi ye file, passport tarah ta bhi bane ga, tu tina hajar rupere dhe dega, diehager rupere dhe dega, woha aapne online kar dhia, the major, these corruption jiske inder funds haat all the things in favor, the things in which things change, the impact of decision making.
55:39You become an IAS friend, you will make a 100 crore rupees for a year. How do you do that? A district has a budget. A district is a district. Some countries are the economy level. One district is a district. He knows anything and everything. Where do you have to put your bar? Where do you have to put your permission? I will give you a phone. I will give money. I will give a builder to you, and he will give you money. I will give you all financing. Yes, every single resource of a district is in hand of a DM. They are making themselves 100 crores. In all honesty. When you get caught, someone came to the same time.
56:26He was a fraud. I was doing this. 25-50 people didn't go to the house. 25-50 people didn't go to the house. 25-50 people didn't go to the house. Again, I don't do this. I don't do this. I have a document. But, Public knowledge. And then people who are friends, I tell them, I'm saying, without corruption, how are they coming to the house? That's why they are a builder. As in, he is a builder. He is only the one who you have to take from government, who has money to release, like you have to buy 50 cars in government, and you have to buy money. But for the money to release, before something breaks, you want to keep it happy.
57:16وہ بھول گیا چڑ گیا تو اس کو تمہاری شکل پسند نہیں آئی فنڈ روک لے نہیں کیا سائن تو تمہارا کام بزنس ویسے بگ جائے گا ٹوڑ جائے گا تو وہ پہلے سے ہی دوست نہیں کر رہے گا
57:31لیکن بنا کرپشن کے ایک کروڑ کوئی ڈسٹرک مجسٹریٹ بلکل کرپشن نہیں کرنا چاہتا پیسے لیتا بھی نہیں ہے فیور بھی نہیں کرتا پیسے لے کے اس کو بس ویسے ہی پیچھ لوگ لائے کہ سر just remember me just remember me remembrance کا مہینے کا ایک کروڑ روپے بن جائے گا لیکن وہ لے رہا ہے تو corruption ہی ہوا ہاں بنا corruption کے تو کیسے لینا ہو بطب as in کہ وہ یہ the point وہ سے بھی یہ بنانا چاہتا تھا کہ بھائی میں decision نہیں لے رہا ہوں ہاں میں کچھ کسی کو favor نہیں دے رہا ہوں چڑھاوا چڑھ رہا ہے بس میں بھگوان ہوں تو پربو جی ہے میں پلیٹ فارم پہ بیٹھا ہوں تو چڑھا لوگ چڑھا کے جا رہے ہیں where would they spend this money ارمہین ایک کروڑ اگر آپ کی دوست کا مل رہے ہیں land real estate کیا کریں گے اس کا جماع کریں گے بیٹھ جائیں گے ریٹائرمنٹ کے بعد corruption کرتے ہو جب پگڑے جاتے ہیں ایسی دکھ رہے ہوتے ہیں بھائی سب یہ تو پنتالیس سال کے ادھر عمر کے انکل ہیں پتہ چلتا ہے کہ ارے بابرے دو سو کروڑ روپے ہیں یہ بنا رکھا ہے وہ بنا رکھا ہے فیملیز آر انجوائیں گے اور وہ بھی ریٹائرمنٹ کے بعد ویلتھ بن کے ختم ہے گریڈی رہو ہوگا کیا ریزن ہے گریڈ جو ہوتا ہے ہورڈ کرتا رہتا ہے گریڈ ایک بار once you get into the capacity once you get into the nature of ہورڈنگ تو ہورڈ کریں گے ہمارا کنٹری جو ہے وہ ریسورس سکارس ہے ریسورس سکارس ہے تو جس بھی کنٹری کے اندر ریسورس سکارس ہوں گے جس نے بھی سکار سیٹی دیکھا ہوگا اس کو جندگی میں جیسے کچھ ملے گا وہ پہلے ہورڈ کرے گا میڈل کلاس گھر جو ہوتے ہیں ان کے گھر میں نے ایک پولیتین کا اچھا ہوتا ہے ممیہ لوگ نا بڑے سار سے کوئی بھی پولیتین آتا ممیہ پولیتین آتا ہے آج بھی ہوتا ہے that comes کیونکہ the mother knows کہ یہ کام آ جائے گا کبھی میں ہورڈ کر کے رکھ لیتی ہوں that is you hold it that cultural the societal mindset کہ جو بھی چیز ہے اس کو بچا کے رکھ لو کیونکہ یہ ابھی کیا پتہ کل کام آجائے گی کیا پتہ اور کام آجائے گی کیونکہ یہ نائنٹی نائنٹیز کے جو پیرنٹس تھے وہ بہت مطلب اس سمیں ہم ویور جسٹ لائک کمیگ بیک فرم جو سوشلیزم کے جو امپیکٹس آنے لگ گئے تھے جو پرانی جو ایکونامی پولیسیز وہ فیل ہونے لگ دی تھی so it was a slightly difficult time اور in any scenario we were from the lower middle class right it was like so پورا دیش ہی وہیں تھا پورا دیش وہیں پہ تا تو پن اس پرگر سے تو وہاں پہ جو بھی چیز تھی اس کو ہی بچا لیا جاتا تھا anything even polythene same ہی تو ہے یہ اسی کی فیملی پچھلے تیس سال پہلے ایسی تھی دٹو تھی تو وہی ممی اس نے دیکھی پاپا اس کے ہیں right so once he gets finally تو وہ ہورڈ کرنے کا جو mental hive ہوتا ہے وہ کنٹینو رہتا ہے but do you feel
1:00:17میں لوسی پیرافریز کر رہا ہوں ان کا سٹیٹمنٹ کہ تم جو سیویل سرویسز ہیں اور جو آفیسز ہیں ان کی سیلری اگر مارکٹ ریٹ جتنی نہیں رکھو گے تو وہ مارکٹ سے ہی کرپٹ کر کے طریقہ ڈھونڈ لیں گے اپنی سیلری میچ کرنے کا تو سیلریز بڑا دو تو دیو تینگ کہ اگر آپ ایک سیلری اور گفتنی بھی ایک سیلریز ایک سیلریز ایک سیلریز تمہاں لگتا ہے
1:00:46it's cultural it's systematic it's not that they are corrupt it's just that it is the part of the system and the culture and the ہے وہ اندر ہے اگر صرف اور صرف سیلری بڑھانے سے corruption رکھ نہیں ہوتی boy that's a utopian solution کل صبح پڑھا دیں گے جنوری اگر اس سے روکی جاتی تو اور یا پھر خود ہی روک جاتا ادمی کہ ایک کروڑ کا ہوگیا corruption it never stops it never stops so that is definitely not the solution وہ Singapur کے case میں it's just a small city nation type کا area دراس ہے ہاں you can manage it over there we are a continent in ourselves یہاں پہ نہیں ہے یہ it has nothing related to salary دیکھو کیا نام پرسی کلچور ہے ہمارا کلچور بن چکا ہے پاور اگزرٹ کرو دباؤ راجہ فیل کرو and corrupt subjugation کا کلچور ہے وہ وہی سے وہ colonial hangover سے آتا ہے تو وہ آدمی آئی ایس کیوں منا دا پتا ہے کیوں منا دا بنگال میں جب بریٹیشرز نے پولٹیکل پاور اپنائی نا تو ان کو بنگال میں موگلز کو اور بنگال کے نواب کو ڈیفیٹ کرنے کے بعد بنگال کے ریونیو کلیکشن کے عدی کار ملے تھی اب وہ ریونیو کو ایکسٹریکٹ کرنے کے لیے سیویل سرویسیز بنی تھی وہ نیچر ہی آئی ایس کا ڈی ای نے اور جو نیچر ہے وہ ایکسٹریکشن ہے
1:02:09اگر آئی ایس ہیتنا تو گرنی رہا US سے گرنی رہا وہ اپنے والا چھوڑ کے ہاں چلے گے کیونکہ انہوں نے ان کو سیٹیجنز کو ایڈمنسٹر یا گورننس نہیں کرنی تھی the whole purpose of the at least initially IES and the IPS was to extract the natural resources and the revenue from the people do you know that the IES and the IPS system has examination ہی پچاس سال میں چینج نی ہوئے the format of the examination has not changed in the last 50 years تو تم سوچ لوگی کہ ایسے سروس کتنی چینج ہوئے ہوں گے the last time some drastic major change happened in the examination was 1979 بیچ میں 93 مہو تھا 2011 و 2014 مہو تھا but those were like it was not a fundamental changes it was just like خاصمائدک چینجز تو جو fundamental change last time اور وہ بھی fundamental میں بھی گیا تھا کیونکہ جادہ بچے پیپر دینے لگ گئے تھے so they just wanted to do a screening test that was the major time ورنہا examination system of UPSC is almost same what was in 1950s so the nature and the DNA of there is extraction they will extract earlier وہ extract wealth east india company یا پھر british raj extract کر کی britain یا ایروپ لہا ابھی یہ پھر اپنے لئے ایکسرک کر آدھت تو وہی رہی ہے why somebody is not stopping it اب جب سب کو پتا ہے ایتنا اپن سیکرٹ ہے آپ سیگھ دار then As usual, if you come to bite the dog, the dog will bite you.
1:03:49آپ کو پتا ہے کہ آپ کا dog کسی کو بھی اندر انتری نہیں کرنے دیرہا. But this dog, اگر آپ کو یہ بھی پتا ہے کہ اب اگر میں اس کو مارنے جاؤں گا تو یہ میرے کو بھی کٹ لے گا. Anybody who has ever tried changing bureaucracy or some reforms into it, ان کو ابھی تک تو کوئی سوپر سکسپلی نہیں. پرائم میسٹر موڈی جی ٹرائیڈ کر آئے کافی سارے ریفارمز کرنے کی کوشش کی گیا ہے پر اندر ریزیسٹنس ہی غزب ہے کیا ٹرائے کیا موڈی جی نے ابھی ریسنٹلی لیٹرل اینٹری ٹرائے گیا تھا کیا وقت تو یہ ان کو کہتے ہیں یہ جو ریکروٹ کیا جاتا ہے ان کو از این آئی ایس اور اس کے بعد پھر دپارٹمنٹ ٹو دپارٹمنٹ میں چلتے رہتے ہیں till the age of the 58 تو مہدی جی started recruit IES بننے کے دو طریقے ہوتے ہیں ایک تو یہ UPSC کا exam that's the entry point دوسرا جو state civil services ہے اس میں سے promote کر کر کے آدمی چودہ سال کے بعد IES بن سکتا ہے these are the only two ways you can become ایک تیسیہ کہ Lateral Entry Lateral Entry مطلب کی کوئی چودہ کوئی پنتالیس پچاس سال کا expert ہے کسی فیلڈ میں IT میں technology میں تو میں اس کو directly secretary بنا دوں گا joint secretary بنا دوں گا کسی منسٹری میں کیسی نے اپنا مدلب اوئل ان گیس میں پی ایش ڈی کری بھی اور وہاں پہ بہت گراؤنڈ ورک کیا سیدھے اس کو اوئل ان گیس کی اس کے لئے ایکزیم نہیں ہے ان کے لئے ویکنسی نکالی تھی تو دے گاٹ ای لڈ اف پیپل وہ ان کو ہائر پوشت کے لئے دی ایم وی ایم کے لئے نہیں لے رہے تھے وہ اس کو بیوروکریسی میں ہائیس کے لئے لے تھے منسٹریز میں کام کر رہا ہے لیکن لیکن سیکریٹری اور جوان سیکریٹری انڈر سیکریٹری کی پوشت کے اوپر لیٹر لینٹری گئے بیچ میں سے لیٹر لینٹری ہوگی ٹھیک ہے وہ نے ٹرائ کیا بھائی یہ جو باقی آئیس تھے انہوں نے ان کے ساتھ کو اپریٹ ہی نہیں کیا مطلب دوس پیپل آر یانگ دال دیر کمید فرمید پرائیویٹ سیکٹر they are like move fast make decisions win it and now we got to do it and we got to like execute and stuff یہ lazy procrastinator ہے وہ کرتے رہے کچھ بھی وہ کرتے نہیں تھے and they had kind of a jealousy کہ یہ تو لیٹرل انٹری والے ہیں so they are not the bureaucrats یہ باب یہ sorry یہ رینڈم کہا سے آگیا یہ they didn't like it چھوڑ دیا look at it اس سے زیادہ swag power نہیں ہے society میں چاہے کوئی کچھ بھی کہتا رہے نہیں ہے نہیں ہے تو نہیں ہے تو people got that کچھ لوگوں نے گئے وہ private لوگ چھوڑ کے آ رہے اس میں سے thank you very much we don't want it کہ کچھ نہیں کرنے دیتے کچھ نہیں کرنے دیتے ان کو کچھ کچھ کچھ کی اسے مطلب they are doing it there are some people who are later entry سے کر رہے ہیں but وہ government scheme drop کر دی so what's the change what do you think the change is just the system will become so much
1:06:29and then this is the only answer I hope that the AI make them irrelevant that is the only hope of hope of ان لو کی زہرت ہی نہیں پڑے گی technology اتنی آگے چل جائے گی technology اتنی فاسٹ ہو جائے گی at the end of the day ان کا کام سیرفر سیف information gatekeeping ہے اس سے زیادہ کوئی بہت جاتا brilhienٹ کام نہیں ہے and why I say brilhienٹ کام نہیں ہے جتنے نمبر پہ لوگ IS بنت ہیں اتنے نمبر میں fail ہوتا تھا تو it is ایسا have you ever heard about any particular innovation ایسا تو ہمارے دوسرے field میں بھی innovation نہیں کر رہے ہیں اور they are primarily the file movers right main job ان کا لاشت میں جید ہے file movers ہی ہونا ہوتا ہے بس صرف ان کو یاد رہنا چلیے کی کونسی file move ہونی کونسی file noting ہی کرتے ہیں تو AI وہ ان کی اس file information gatekeeping کو irrelevant بنانے کی capacity رکھتا ہے if AI is what AI is claiming to be and I hope to some level it is there are obviously execrations and I think singularity singularity تمہنے کو یقین ہے and but a massive change fundamental and اس کا جو سب سے جادہ جو کی clear cut دکھنے لگیا ہے informational processing بھئی تم کو جب تمہارا کہ کہتے ہیں automatically AI پہلے سے judge کر کے بتا دے گا کہ کہاں پہ بارڈ آنے والی ہے یا کہاں پہ سوکھو پڑھنے والا ہے اور وہ یہ بھی decision لے پا رہا ہے کہ کہاں پہ allocate کرنا چاہیے and what kind of an execution can be done یہی decision لینے کے لئے یہ بیٹھ ہوئے تھے اسی چیز کو لے کے یہ کہنا میں decision use کر رہے تھے that thing actually can be solved by the AI in a manner تو مجھے لگتا and more importantly I think the charm of UPSC has been falling جب سے social media آئے social media سے پہلے سب کچھ نام history ہے پورا پورا middle class یہ ہے کہ بھائی یہ بابو ساہب آئے ہیں وہ پوری زندگی میں ایک بار ایک آٹھوی کلاس کا بچہ اس بڑی ایمبیزڈر میں لالبتی کے ساتھ ایک آئی ایس کو آکے دیکھتا تھا تو اس کا سپنا بن جاتا تھا کہ ماں میں بھی ایسا آئی ایس بنوں گا اور اس کے بعد اس کا کبھی کوئی دوسرا انٹریکشن نہیں ہے پھر وہ اپنی زندگی کاٹتا کیا اور اچھا اس کے بعد جو سوشل موبیلیٹی کا تتہ دیگا تو وہ بھی ایک ہی تھا now once the social media has come and it has just been 10 years now we know it's all not all
1:08:54میں UPSC preparation کرتا تھا میں سوئر پر آن گاڈ بیفور 2018 نون افیو اور اینی بڈی کوڈ ہای کنونس می کی UPSC میں کہنا میں فیک سرٹیفیٹ لگا کے سیلیکشن ہو جاتا ہے اس لئے میں نے نہیں بنوائے میرے کوئی میرے مائنڈ وز کی ایسا ہو ہی نہیں سکتا ایسا ہو ہی نہیں سکتا یہ مائنڈ ہی ایسا تھا یہ تو ہولی گریل ہے بھائی یہ بھگوان جیسے ہوگا ہو ہی نہیں سکتا مجھے کسی نے بتایا بھی نہیں تھا اور ہوتا بھی نہیں تھا ان کو پتا تھا اندر تو ان کو دیور ڈوئنگ اٹھ دیکھ ٹائم آلسو اب میں ریٹرسپیکٹ میں میں نے کہا بھائی وہ تو کیس تو لگ رہا دونوں بھائی بہن سیم ایئر میں سیم اپسنل کے ساتھ سیلیکٹ کیسے ہو سکتے ہیں 2012 کا ایک کیس ہے جنون سچی میں اس کے بتا رہا ہوں دو ہے برادر سسٹر چھ سال چار سال سے نہیں ہو رہا ٹھیک ہے ٹھیک ہے ٹھیک ہے ٹھیک ہے نہیں ہوا دو ہزار بھارہ میں دونوں بھائی بہن دونوں کا فلسفی آپشنل دونوں کے فلسفی میں ٹاپ کے نمبر دونوں کا سیلیکشن ایک ایس ایک ی پیس اوکھے فائن وی اوکے اس ٹیلنٹ رنس اندھ فیمیلی بٹ کم آن برو تم اگر مجھے سرکمسٹینشل بہت ہے جیسے I had this thing it's a slightly radical idea پر مجھے لگتا ہے کہ دیش میں رگریسیو تیکسیشن ہونا چاہیے رگریسیو تیکسیشن ہے کہ گریبوں سے تیکس لو تیکسی یوٹ سے تیکس لو آپ سوچ کے دیکھو ابھی انڈیا میں بتا ہے سفتین پرسنٹ لوگ تیکس دیتے ہیں ڈریکٹ والا انڈریکٹ سب دیتے ہیں ڈریکٹ والا تو جب روڈ نہیں بنتی تو 97 لوگ سوال ہی نہیں پوچھ رہے کیونکہ ان سے indirect GST لیا جا رہے لیکن ان سے direct text نہیں لیا so they don't have that perception کی میرا پیسہ کہاں جا رہے آپ گریبوں سے بھی text لو چاہیں دس ازار روپے پہ تین سو روپے کا text لگاؤ ٹھیک ہے اب سوچ کے دخوا گریب نے دس ازار روپے پہ تین سو روپے تیکس دیا یا سوال پوچھے گا کہ میرا بچہ سکول کیوں نہیں جا پا رہا ہے اور اس کے گاؤں میں روڈ نہیں آئی لائٹ نہیں آئی یہ پوچھنا سٹارٹ کر دے گا ابھی اس کو پتہ ہی نہیں چل رہا he doesn't care anymore same with the youth جب وہ چالیس سال کا ہو جاتا اس کے بچے اس کی فیملی ہے یہ آدمی کبھی پروٹیسٹ نہیں کرے گا یہ ایڈجیسٹ کر لے گا یہ گورنمنٹ کے اگینش کچھ بولنا میں نہیں چاہے گا تیس سال کے بچے سے ٹیکس لو اور اس کے بعد تم اس کو وہ چیز مدو پھر دیکھو کیا کرتا ہے یہ لے گا یہ مانگ لے گا بھائی اور یہ ووکل آواز تو ہے ان کے پاس but welcome to that ووکل is the one I would definitely want زینزی جو ہے یا کوئی بھی جنریشن جو ہے you should question as much as you want this is the only مطب میں ہزار سال نہیں جیا ہوں but this is the only way civilization has ever protest any country has ever protest گلیلیو نے چرچ کو بولا کہ چرچ is wrong god is wrong so sorry earth is not the center of the universe sun earth is not going to go sorry sun is not going to go earth is going to go that question that challenging the authority is what changes the whole civilization fair some of the prime minister or president around the world around the world it might sound cliched but I genuinely believe Jawaharlal Nehru was one of the greatest statesmen of the world present I meant present but we can continue کیوں ایسے لگتا ہے آپ کو Nehru یار I think the challenge جو کی جب اللہ Nehru face کر رہے تھے it's rare کسی اور کے پاس almost world history کسی کے پاس تھا ہی نہیں کیا it's like he's sitting on the 50th floor of the building and the 49 the bottom 49 floors are on fire and then he was made prime minister this is a country یہ ہم نے 200 سال تک لوٹ لیا ہے اس میں 10 % literacy ہے اس کے اندر 95 % poverty ہے اور اب تمہیں اس کو democracy بنانا ہے sorry we are gonna go to go ہمیں جانا ہے پڑھا ہے کیونکہ world war 2 نے ہمیں برواد کر دیا so bye take care and nothing there is nothing he is the person جس کی فیملی ہے 48 کروڑ لوگوں کی اور سارے کے سارے اس میں سے 38 کروڑ لوگ بھوگے مر رہے ہیں اور اس میں سے کسی کو پڑھنا بھی نہیں آتا اور 200 سال سے جو ویلتی ہو سارے کے سارے لوٹ کے لئے گئی ہے اور سارے کے سارے اگریرین ہے and there is no technology and then he stood there and he said that okay let's do it one by one and first let's make some dams then make some PSUs then make some AIMS then make some IITs and then make some ISRO and then simultaneously doing this he also said that میں پچھلے انڈیا کی دوہزار تین ہزار سال کی جو سوالیزیشنال political ہے میں اس کو change کر کے usher انڈیا into a democracy اور وہ دمکہ دیتا ہے میرے سائیڈ میں پاکستان ہے ان سے کانسٹیٹوشن دس سال میں بنا تھا انہوں نے پچھلے ساٹھ سال میں تین وارو کانسٹیٹوشن بدل لیا ہے اور ان کو دیر نہیں یاد تھا دم ہے وہ ایک سائیڈ میں بانگلہ دیش ہے یہ کپ پھٹ جائے گا اس کا نہیں پتا شری لانکہ میانمار everything is burning and this guy جو کہ انڈیا is the world's most difficult country ایسی کنگری میں چار گھنٹے کا ڈسکس کر سکتا ہوں ایسی کنٹریز انٹو ون پولیٹیکل سسٹم کیوں کیونکہ انگری جو کو ایکسپلائٹ کرنا تھا انہوں نے دھاگا تو جوڑ دیا ہر جنگے سے لیکن انہوں نے صرف پولیٹیکل دھاگا دوڑا تھا سیم چیز جب یورپ میں ہوئے تو یورپ میں ایسے ممبئی ممبئی جیتنے دیش بنے ہوئے اتنا سا جرمنی اتنا سا فرانس ہے کیونکہ فرانس اور جرمنی ایڈنٹیٹی جو نیشنل ایڈنٹیٹی وہ ہوئی بھی سکتی ساتھ لڑ جائیں گے اوستیریہ ہنگری مر جائے گے کیونکہ اتنو نیشنلیزم جو ہے وہ اتنا جادہ ستیت جس سے وہ نیشن ستیت بنے دے بڈ اینڈیا ہر ایک جنگ پہ ہے اگر there was possibility کی انڈیا کا اکتم بالکنائزیشن ہو جاتا ہر ایک ستیت اپنا دیش بنانی کوشش کردی
1:14:54اس mode ان perderن و پیٹ ای Viewerی تا ہاتین ت tú خصف یا wer wisد است است SAMU сریکی اندیا ہی پر ب smellsدیوور و پیو کیسی ان در مت و GastریرOH تو دو استان تلپی det nhânؤur?", بس ہم وقت قرآن hybrid اور پر صندوق واپسی علینا ش animales اس ب earthly کیسی حدث ل Liveيرین ب۔ طرح است ویرانی گرمانی اور یکی جاند پیكار لمنٹری و جبارہ اثیاب کیت ر Governیم طرح است The idea of the nation is already built into it. Okay. ایک دیش ہے. ایک ہی identity ہے. ایک ہی طریقے سے سوچ. ایک ہی طریقے سے. Culture بھی سیم ہے. Identity بھی سیم. Religion بھی سیم ہے. More importantly. انڈیا میں 500 identities ہیں. 500 languages ہیں.
1:15:4250 religion ہیں. کس تو ایسے religion ہیں جن کا لوگ نام ہی نہیں پتا. اب ہم اس کو کر دیتے ایک umbrella کے اندر. But there are so many ideas. So many different. اگر کوئی بھی اور ہوتا نیرو کے علاوہ ہمیں چار سٹیٹ اور بن جاتے ہیں یہاں پہ ہی سی جنگہ پہ we are living in a society but everybody is born as an individual تو وہ جو something that جو evolutionary force ہے you know that liberty وہ freedom کا اس کو جب تک suppress کریں گے تب تک وہ کہتے ہیں it'll never create a stable society اب ابھی جتنی بھی stable societies ہیں اس میں وہ تب ہی بنی ہے جب انہوں نے وہ Liberty Freedom کو allow کر دیا. Okay. Everybody is free, everybody is Liberty.
1:16:25اس کے بیترہ نہیں کیا جا سکتا ہے. Even China میں to some extent there is Liberty. Some extent. بہت زیادہ extent تک ہو جائے گی. Liberty میں دیکھو ان کا system closed ہے. Okay. And they have these guard rails کی بھائی political communism کو یا political class کو تمہاری نہیں کریی سائز کر سکتے اور state کے اگر نہیں بول سکتے. But beyond that it's a free market. ایک ایک جامبل دیتا ہوں. is it a free market China China is a free market see ایک تو پہلے تو بالکل white اور جو academic black or white ہوتے اس میں کچھ ہوتا نہیں ہے we are not socialist we are not communist and we are not capitalist either the same thing applies to the China China is communist لیکن only politically economically تو وہ بالکل بھی communist full free market globalized دو دن پہلے Trump گیا تھا دو دن کے بعد Putin جا رہا ہے یہ کہاں سے بھی communist ہو گیا وہ فور ہو چکے ہیں As far as the domestic market is concerned, they are closed but again, I think it's a Chinese art of war strategy Chinese art of war strategy they don't want to come and stand on the world's stage till the time they have become 1.5 of US which is super power when there is another power growing it becomes anxiety and in anxiety it finds the conflict تو USA کو اگر یہ completely clarity دے دو کہ China is going to go bigger than that, یہ اس کے ساتھ conflict find out کرے گا پچھلے تین ہزار سال میں اسی ہوا ہے آپ کوئی بھی empire dynasty دیکھ لیا ہے اس کے باز جو میں اگر کوئی بڑی dynasty بننی start ہوئی ہے جیسے ہی 70 % force پہ آتی ہے دونوں ایک دوسرے سے لڑ جاتے ہیں جو بچ گیا بچ گیا this is what has happened, that's how Maratha basically killed the Mughal dynasty اور that's why Britishers were able to kill the Mughal dynasty جیسے ہی ایک بڑی سی ڈینیسٹی ہے اس کے پاس ایک چھوٹی چھوٹی پاور گروہ کرنے لگ جاتے ہیں it reaches 60 to 70 % conflict is inevitable اس کے بعد one will be destroyed one is survived چائنا کی آرٹ آف آر یا پھر جو ان کے کلچرل آئیڈیا ہے ان کا یہ ہے کہ جب تک ہم یو ایس سے سے 1.5 نہیں ہو جائیں گے ہم بتائیں گے ہی نہیں that's where they stay silent that's where they don't open themselves open to the world کہ ہمیں 70 % پر آگے لڑائی کرنی کرنی نہیں دیڑ گناہ آکے ہی لڑائی کرنے کی لیے کچھ بچے ہی نہیں دیکھو ابھی ٹرم گیا تھا نہیں تو کیا نام جائنا میں تو زی جن پنگ نے ایک word use کیا تھوسائیڈیس ٹریک وہ ایک پرانی بک ہے پہلوپونیشنز وار کے اوپر ہے تو اس میں یہ آئیڈیا دیا ہوا کہ جب دو پاور آ جاتے ہیں سوپر پاور یا دو پاور گروہ کرنے لگ جاتے ہیں تو ان دونوں کا کانفلیکٹ ہے انیویٹیبل ہے China بولا کہ ہم ہے نہیں ہمیں کار نہیں ہمیں کانفلیق اسے سے but that is just a delaying strategy وہ کر لیں گے اگر وہ اسے سے 1.5 ہو جائیں گے they are waiting they are just waiting they see China is confident you know why کیونکہ ان کو یہ تو پتہ چل گیا کہ world is around us we have all the factories where are they going to go we are creating the world تو everything تو آتو چکے تو ہم آتو چکے but to declare that we have arrived they are waiting it out اچھا plan ایسا کو ہونے دو ڈیکلائن ناچھی طرح جتنا جیدہ ہو اپنا کرتا رہے گا اور ایسا آلسو انڈسٹران ورنہ یہ واپس چاند پہ جانے کی کوشش نہیں کرتے the Artemis 2 is again that perceptive challenge to China you are the new power but we are the only superpower ہم جو کر سکتے ہیں وہ کوئی بھی نہیں کر سکتا ہے humanity میں we are the greatest civilization that was ever on earth till date which is true in a sense I would not deny that but اچانک سے کیا ریزن ہے پچاس سال ہوگے لیکن USA کو اچانک سے چاند پہ جانا پڑا رہا ہے why because China they defeated the USSR انہوں نے USSR کو ایک بار ہرا دیا چاند پہ پہنچ کے کہ اکی کمیونیزم has been defeated we have won پچاس سال کے بعد USSR is dead and انہوں نے ٹھیک ہے but now again they want to show کہ it's we we are the leaders ہمیں ہیں we are the spotlight look at us China will also go to moon before 2040 I can 100 % sure China will land a first man on the moon I can guarantee you that because it's the perception again it's because USA can't leave it alone true so now Trump went to China okay Beijing ہے اور ورلڈ کے سارے ٹاپ لیڈرز بلینیز جو آپ بول دو جو کمپنی سب اس کے ساتھ پورا کافلہ لے کے چلے گئے کیونکہ ابھی کچھ سمیں تک تو چھے مہنے پہلے تک تو امریکہ وز لائک ٹرمپ وز لائک کہ بھائی یہ ٹریف لگا دوں گا بین کر دوں گا میں تم کو بند کرو یہ کرو وہ کرو پورا ایک ڈراما چل رہا تھا اب دوستی ہے چلو بھائی چاہ رہا ہاتھ ملاو وہاں پہ اس کے گارڈن میں گھوم رہا ہے ہم کو کسی لیکھا تھے کیا تکھا وہ all of that is happening what is happening what does it mean یہ انڈیا کے لئے کیا مین کرے گا یہ انڈیا کے لئے دیکھو دو طریقے سے دیکھا جا سکتا ہے because china نے consistently لکھا تھے کر دے Trump کو بھی انوایٹ کر دیا اور basically Putin کو بھی انوایٹ کر دیا ہے تو optics تو دیکھو china نے سیدھے سیدھے یہ بنا دیا ہے کہ we are the negotiating power everybody needs to come to the table to talk to us no doubt about it it's a it's a کہ ہمیں نہیں ignore کر سکتے we are the world's factory and everybody has to talk to us اور ہم سب سے آپ چاہے وہ US سے ہو یہ show of power ہے show of power I think it's a how do I put it in a manner دیکھو ایسا وہ دکھانے کے لئے تو نہیں کر رہے کیونکہ ایک ہی ہفتے میں Trump and Putin both تمہارے پاس آتے اور دونوں کو national welcome ہی ملتا ہے ایسا نہیں کہ کسی کو بھی آپ نے کم رکھا لیکن show of power کس کے لیے when you say کہ show of power کس کو دکھا رہا چاہیے the world اور US کو بھی دکھا رہا ہے کہ دیکھ یہ ہے plan ان کو تب تو نہیں بولا تھا کہ Putin's plan اس کا سمپل سا مطلب یہ ہے کہ we are the ہم inevitable ہیں دیکھو Putin کا اپنا selfish region ہے جیسی Trump چلا گیا تھا تو Putin صرف اور سی اپنے پرانے انٹرسٹ کو secure کرنے کے لیے گیا ہوئا ہے اپنی energy security کے لیے پتن کو یہ ڈر ہے کہ سب کچھ ٹرمپ ورم کو لے دیا اگر کوئی جیادہ بہتر ویڈر ڈیل بھیل کرا دی تو کوئی میرے جیوڈ پہ خطران جائے کوئی تو ویسے بھی سینکشنز میں جینے لگ رہا ہے اس سمیں تو ہی کیم تو سیکیور اس اون انٹرسٹ کی بل سٹے ویڈیو ویڈیو ویڈیو لیٹس نوٹ گیٹر کیریڈا ویڈیو بیٹس نوٹ بیٹس نوٹ بیٹس نوٹ
1:23:05بیٹس نوٹ میں کبھی بھی آ جائے کروں گا برو ٹرمپ کو بھی اس لئے جانا پڑا کیونکہ یہ جیو پولیٹیکل ایران کے بعد جو چیلنجز والینجز آنے سٹارٹ ہوئے ہیں تو اس کو پتا چل گیا جب تک ایران وار نہیں سٹارٹ ہوئی تھی جب تک میڈلی اسٹ کے ساتھ جو ریلیشنشپ سے وہ چل رہے تھے تو وہ چائنہ کو ریٹوریکلی چیلنج کرتا رہتا تھا کرتا رہتا تھا تو اس کو بھی یہ میسیج دینا تھا کہ ٹھیک ہے ہم کو آپریٹ کر لیتے کسی کسی مبدے کے اوپر اب سب سے پہلے دے USA main purpose سارے کے سارے جو یہ corporate honchos all billionaires سب کے سب تیسلا گوگل ایمیزون کے ایپل کے سب کے سب everything all was going specifically اس لئے کیونکہ China has monopoly of the rare earth minerals ٹھیک ہے آپ وہ اس position میں کہ تم اس سے لڑائی نہیں کر سکتے something جو کی سعودی آریابیا کے پاس بھی ہے لڑائی کے دل اسی کے پاس ہے ان کے پاس آگیا ہے rare earth mineral and all of that coming technologies of AI artificial intelligence وہ اس supply chain کے اوپر dependent ہے اگر چاہینا چاہے تو ایک button دبا کے وہ بیسیکلی پورے کے پورے USA کی جو AI development ہے اس کو روکتے گا so he Trump went into actually secure کہ let's actually coordinate about it کیوں کیونکہ تمہارے پاس monopoly ہے تو اس کو شاند کرنا ضروری تھا rhetorically دیکھو اپنے domestic audience کے لیے اپنے ماغا جو make America great again جو ان کا ہے ان کے لیے وہ کچھ بھی بولتا رہے میں تیریف لگا دوں گا میں یہ کر دوں گا میں اس کی پونچ پار دوں گا میں یہ کر دوں گا but when it comes to جو فائنلی نیگوشیشن ہونے لگتے ہیں بند روم میں تو اس سے میں پتہ چل جاتا ہے کہ بھائی یہ سارے کس سارے اسی کے پاس ہے ریئر ارث منوپلی ہے اس کے پاس it's a geographical thing کیا کرے اس کا کوئی علاج نہیں ہے نہیں بھائی 90 % پروسیسنگ کی جو ایکوپمنٹس اور مشینریز وہ بھی ان کے پاس وہ بھی ان کے پاس ہاں ایک دو بار USA نے کبھی کبھی ٹرائے بھی کیا تھا نویڈیا کی کوئی چپ تھی وہ ان کو دینے سے منہ کر دی یار وہ دو سال میں انہوں نے develop کر لی ٹھیک ہے so they go very fast they are developing technologically and سامہ وردی ادھر جو پچھلے تیس سال کا ان کا research and development کے اندر جو پیسہ تھا اب اس کا result پروفٹ بھی آنے start ہوگی نا تم نے انیسٹمنٹ کی ہے تو اس کے پروفٹ بھی آنے لگیں گے
1:25:13create nobody else has جو ہم کردے ہیں تمہارے میں سے کسی کو بس کینے توارے پیسے ہی نہیں وہ کرنے کی they got that money and they started doing it so it is kind of a situation جو کی مجھے لگ بھی رہے کہ these two countries will never be able to fight with each other so now they've become more like friends they'll never become friends دو سوپر پاور اکھٹے ایک کمرے میں دونوں کی دونوں اگو اکھٹی اچھے friends نہیں بن سکتے ہیں کیوں کیونکہ پائی تھوڑی سی limited ہوتی ہے ہمیں لگتا ہے unlimited پائی ہے بہت پائی limited ہے کسی نہ کسی کا ایک کا پائی میں سے کٹ جائے گا تو friend نہیں رہیں گے بہت دونوں کے دونوں ایک دوسری کو ناپنا چاہتے ہیں پچھلے history میں ایک چلی میں چال اتنے کم سمیہ میں اتنی زیادہ wealth create کہیں پہ بھی نہیں ہوئی ہے جو چائنا نے کی بریٹیش یورپ کو چار سو سال لگے تھے امریکہ کو سو سال لگے تھے چائنا نے تیس میں کر کے one generation جیسے ہماری تو پچھلی دس جنریشن نے گریب ہی دیکھی ہے US سے کی صرف پچھلی چھے جنریشن نے گریب ہی دیکھی ہوگی یورپ کے پچھلی چینی کی ایک سنگل جنریشن کے اندر اندر they have created that much wealth کہ وہ directly US کو جا کے چیلنج کر دیں گے دس سال کے پندر سال کے بعد and as I said وہ ویٹ کر دیں اگر آپ نے کسی کبھی کوئی پڑے گا اٹ آف وار کے اندر ان کی کلچر کا پارٹ ہے کہ ہم اپنے ہتھیار نہیں دکھائیں گے تم دکھاؤ پہلے you shoot your first تو پہلے تم گول ہی چلا دو پھر اس کے پاس یہ توپ سے اڑا دیں گے ہمیں پتا بھی نہیں ہوگا کہ ان کے پاس توپ ہے this is what they are doing they never show off تو جیسے جو world کو جو show off ہے مجھے لگتا ہے کہ وہ China show off کرنے میں رکھتا نہیں ہے they have that it's a thing it's a culture thing show off نہیں کہتے تب ہی ان کا کوئی بھی billionaire Elon Musk یا Jeff Bezos نہیں بن پاتا ہے اس state suppress کر دیتی ہے کہ ہمیں وہ پتہ نہیں یہ word یوٹیو پہ ہمیں دولت کا ناچ نہیں چاہیے billionaire ہو تم state سے نیچے رہو گے corporate اگر state کے اوپر ہو جائے گا تو یہ برداشت نہیں کیا جائے گا بالکل بھی نہیں برداشت کیا جائے گا اور کرتے ہیں jack ma کا آپ نے اگر سنا ہو تو jack ma was flying high بھائی گائب کر دیتے ہیں billionaires کو بریٹش چائنا کے اندر کوئی سممتہ ہلکی بھلکی ہوگے تم چھوڑی بھوڑی باتتا ہے اور اس کے بعد وہ بیچارے نورمل اپنی ایسی جندگی جی رہے ہوتے ہیں سمپلیسٹی کی ہمارے دیش میں بلینیر بہت سارے سمپلیسٹی جیتے لیکن وہ ہمبل بننے کے لیے جیتے لیکن وہاں پہ ان کو سچ میں ہمبل کر دیا جاتا ہے
1:27:39تو ایسا تو چائنا اپنی پاور نہیں دکھائے گا مجھے جہاں تک لگتا ہے اس میں کوئی شک کی بات نہیں ہے کہنے میں کہ دیوڈ they are the second power of the world right now every country in the world is dealing with them کوئی ہے جو نہیں deal کر رہا ہے ہم ان سے 110 billion dollar کا سمان کریتے ہیں ہم بیجتے کتنے ہیں 15 this is the difference between them and us we even though our competitor could be we could be seen as a competitor کیوں کیونکہ اگر یہ رائز کرے گا ہماری کو تھوڑا کم مل جائے ہمیں challenge ہو جائے گا تو ہمیں کہیں نہ کہیں اس سے compete کرنا پڑتا ہے لیکن اس کے باوجود بھی we are dependent so much on that AC کے compressor کے لئے ہم چاہینا پہ dependent almost everything دواہی کے لئے دواہی کے لئے بھی اس کے جو ingredients and rare earth minerals and مطلب ہم semiconductor بناتے نہیں ہیں بٹ جتنا بھی ہم کر رہے ہیں جس میں بھی لیڈر ہیں جو بھی چیز میں ہم دنیا میں لیڈر ہیں اس میں 95 % چیزوں پہ ہم ان پہ dependent ان پہ دیپنڈنٹ that raw material comes from there raw material سارے کسارے فون سب بھی all of the stuff ابھی ہم روم میں دیکھیں گے اپنے گھر پہ دیکھیں گے کچھ چیزیں ہی سے بان کے آرکھ ہی سارے کھنے ٹکنالوجی بھلے ہی اور امریکہ ہوا کی بانتا سب بھی بانتا سب بھی فیکٹری بھی ان کے باس ٹکنالوجی ہے فیکٹری ان کے باس یہ پہی سفٹیکنالوجی بنا رہے ہیں یہ فیکٹری بنا رہے ہیں but like what what is india's future then and before actually you talk about India's future یہ جو visit ہوا you heard کہ کسی بھی CEO سے نہیں ملا جا کے shipping the president of China وہ نہیں ملے کسی بھی جا کے یہ اتنی بڑی آپ لے کے گئے سب کو کہ وہاں پہ top of the top leaders ہیں world کے he didn't meet anyone سب کو جونئر سے ملوا دے اور دار state dinner کرا دے ان کے billionaire ملے دے جیسے Huawei کا Huawei Huawei کا CEO جو تھا وہ سب پہ پیسے وہ ملتے تھے ان کے والے وہ دیکھا سب نے وہ فوٹو کیجنے والے وہ ملتے تھے نہیں نہیں this is like power this is the emperor why would emperor meet Elon Musk who is Elon Musk کیا Elon Musk why emperor کے سامنے yeah seriously he didn't meet because I expected کیونکہ جس آپ سے US سے news پھیلنے لگی تھی اس لگا تھا everybody will go meet do some deals کچھ چاہیے نہیں چاہینا کو مرکو Elon Musk سے یا Jeff Bejos سے یا Google کے CEO سے تب ملنا پڑے گا when I'm looking for investments I'm talking ki guy why don't you invest 1000 qur rupees here he is the emperor of China to put it in as simple words as that the emperor never meets the trader emperor کیوں trader سے بلے گا بھائی emperor کے لوگ ملے گے جو trade میں interested ہوں گے اس کو کیا مطلب نہیں نہیں I think this is a good optic from Xi Jinping it's a good optik as far as China is concerned it's a good optik for Xi Jinping کہ ٹھیک ہے تمہارا وہ آیا ہے پورا پورا سب مل کے let me talk to your president and we'll discuss it tomorrow I'll tell you tomorrow so where now to let's say America and China یہ سب violence سے war جیتے جاتا ہے violence سے تم super power رہتے ہو تو یہ دوستی کر رہے ہیں کہ تاکہ یہ دونوں ایک دوسرے سے لڑنا افورڈ نہیں کر سکتے رہے at the same time انڈیا دوستی کر رہا ہے یورپ سے اور گہری کرتے جا رہا ہے ابھی ابھی بھی آپ دیکھو گے تو it's tour going on پرائمیسٹر گئے ہوئے ہیں نوروے نوروے، نیدھر لینڈز، اٹلی ادھر گئے ہوئے ہیں اور ان سے ہماری دوستی بڑھتے ہی جا رہی ہے is it good?
1:31:14it is 100 % good بالکل بیلنسیگ ایکٹ ہے نا جیسے بھئی چائنہ کا ٹرمپ اور پوتین والا جو ورجن ہے جو وہ وہاں پہ جا رہا تھا پیرللی سمیلرلی اسی سمیں جس ٹو بیلنس آرسلیف آؤٹ انڈین پرائم میسٹر جن دو یورپ یورپ کو ڈائیورسی فائی کرنا ہے وہ چائنہ پہ اوپر ڈیپینڈنٹ نہیں ہو سکتا ہمیں یو ایس کے اوپر ڈیپینڈنس نہیں چاہیے اور نہیں جو رشیان لیڈ جو energy infrastructure ہمیں اس کے اوپر بھی dependence نہیں چاہیے the third most important hole is Europe Europe کے ساتھ بہت جیدہ اچھے والی successful Europe کی Europe اور India کی جو deal ہے اس کو mother of all trade deals کہہ رہے ہیں if this trade deals comes تو یہ جو ہوتا ہے کہ کہتے ہیں see this China is doing this silk belt and road initiative they're making all the ports and the roads پورے infrastructure connect کر رہے ہیں China کو Europe کے ساتھ اور Africa کے ساتھ اور Middle East کے ساتھ Middle East, West Asia is more a better word اس کے ساتھ similarly جو ابھی اس سے پرائم ملسٹر اس کے ساتھ پرائم ملسٹر اورپ گئے ہوئے ہیں ان کا وہ پلان ہے کہ انڈیا کو پورٹس کے ساتھ انفرسٹرکٹرلی کنیکٹ کرنا through the West Asia to the Europe وہ اسی چیز کا کاونٹر ہے so whenever somebody takes one step so in our own capacity we are taking that counter step کہ Trump کو بھی یہ پتا ہو جانا چاہیے کہ we are not only dependent on you بھائی تمہیں چاہینا کے ساتھ deal کرنے کہ we also have Europe so it's kind of sending you that diplomatic message thank you so much sir hello sir jih kase ho hi raj how are you doing man very very excited and very nervous you know we thought a few days ago on this nazi parachi which is very interesting foxvergan which car is who started it it was Hitler's time Hitler didn't start it Hitler is the founder of foxvergan Fanta also وہ بھی اس کے طرح سے ہے اور ان کی یونیفارم تھی وہ ہیوگو وہ دیزائن کرتا تھا نازی یونیفارم ایک ارکی تیپل یونیفارم وہ ہیوگو نے دیزائن کری تھی بائی بائی تینکیو سو مچ یہ اپیسوڈ این تک دیکھنے کے لیے اب آپ کو پتہے آپ کو تین چیزیں کرنی ہے سب سے پہلے اس چینل کو سبسکرائب کر لو تاکہ اسی طرح ہم اور بھی ویلیویبل گیس لاتے رہے نمبر ٹو مجھے کومنٹس میں بتاؤ کہ اس اپیسوڈ میں آپ کو کیا اچھا لگا اور کون سے اسے گیسٹ ہیں جو آپ دیکھنا چاہتے ہو ہم اس اپیسوڈ میں اس پاڈکاس میں لے کے ہیں اور یہ اپیسوڈ کسی ایک انسان کے ساتھ ضرور شیئر کرنا جس کو اپنی لائف میں اس سے کچھ بیٹر چینج کرنے کا موقع ملے گا کیونکہ ایک کانورزیشن can change someone's life I'll see you next time until then keep figuring out
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(00:00) - Intro
(02:45) - Why Does He Call IAS the Steel Cage of India?
(07:38) - Where Does Corruption Start?
(18:53) - Fake Document Submission in UPSC
(21:04) - 3 Basic Ways People Get Into Corruption
(27:34) - Where Do People Keep Their Corruption Money?
(31:23) - Is There a Point of No Return From Corruption?
(38:00) - Why Are Indians Scared of the Police?
(40:51) - How Does the System Break an Honest Person?
(42:30) - Why Can't Someone Fire an IPS Officer?
(48:44) - How Much Scheme Money Actually Reaches People?
(58:12) - What Do People Do With Corruption Money?
(1:00:09) - Will Giving Bureaucrats Higher Salaries Solve This Issue?
(1:03:35) - Why Is Nobody Stopping Corruption?
(1:06:22) - AI Is the Change the System Needs
(1:11:51) - A President/Prime Minister He Really Likes
(1:14:58) - Why Is India the Most Difficult Country to Rule?
(1:16:49) - Is China a Free Market?
(1:20:50) - How Will Trump's Recent Visit to China Impact India?
(1:28:58) - Why Didn't the Chinese President Meet American Entrepreneurs During Their Visit?
(1:30:43) - Is India's Friendship With European Nations Good for Us?
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