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39:48See, today, in the episode of three hours, the genius of the editor, who works with us, who works with high performing podcasts, is knowledge. Is that, that intuition I would say or that knowledge yes that in 3 hours these 10 things will go and then it will cut and put it this AI can do it or not intuition is trainable how does how your creator how does how does because he has made thousands of clips pushed and he has seen which content has worked now if AI has access to your content it knew what the input was and it knew what were the outputs and it knew what are the pieces that did well in the past.

40:33It can build a 100x better intuition than a video editor. So, today it can be if someone doesn't make it. That's a great idea. I'll tell you one thing. Right? I've seen my content right? In the last three months in actually last two last three months I have not clocked the views that you do but I've done 200 million views on social. Everything is AI. That I know. 100 % is AI. Now, I'll tell you where the real magic comes in. The idea generation, what happens, is AI and I'll tell you how it works. There's a tool called Feedly. Feedly. Feedly. Okay. It's the job that it's what RSS feeds. Every time there's a new piece of content on the internet, it's pinged.

41:17And I have given some keywords. AI, tech, startups, funding, investment, bunch of company names in India and all of that. if any content piece on the internet hits on any of these keywords or relevant it comes to it everything comes to Feedly so Feedly filters this content and sends it to an AI for me that AI has data of the last 300 videos that I have posted which one this is a prompt so I send that data using something called as make.com make make make.com so Feedly say via make.com API which is chat GPT API where a prompt is written imagine it like chat GPT but automatic okay where the prompt is written in the prompt I have given this that I have 300 pieces of content which I have posted before Instagram LinkedIn everywhere out of this 300 pieces of content these are the 100 that have performed very well so you know the data about me on what has worked what has not worked now there is a new content piece about urban company do you think this will go viral how much would you rate it from a scale of 1 to 10 if that rating that's it it's the same AI system rate if that rating is more than 7 then that that's what I'm doing in Slack new topic idea discovered urban company launched maid services in Mumbai for 9 rupees potential to go viral 9 out of 10 if it's less than 7 I don't even know because I don't want to see this urban company I'm giving an example so I get that feedly you have put it in the startup then make.com like how does this decide because it has my data the kind of content that I have created in the past the scripts of each one of them which topics performed which topics performed not so feedly it will take it make automatically choose 3-4 names should I redo it okay how do I get my content feedly is a platform which is scraped on the internet for new topics.

43:25Okay, that I got it. It's not enough. Right? Every time there's a new topic that comes on a topic that I'm interested in, feedly that data via Make.com. Make.com is like a glue from one software to another without writing code. Okay. That's equivalent of Make.com. I wrote a prompt in the chat GPT. And the prompt is that this is the content that I've done in the past. These are the content that I've worked, topics that I've worked. these are the topics that have not worked. So based on this data, according to your intuition, you tell this topic how much would you rate it from a scale of 1 to 10.

44:02So AI rates that topic from a scale of 1 to 10. If the rating for that topic is 7. Because every day hundreds of pieces of content come. I can't create content in everything. So if it's 7. Then the piece of content is a summary that I ping in Slack. New content idea form. In this case, Urban company launched a 9 rupee made service. Whatever. Right. Then, my personal team looks at it. Every day, some 10-15 pieces of content, ideas like this, I come in Slack. My own. Automated. Right. Skim through hundreds of articles. My team picks these topics here. And they just select, agree, disagree, agree, disagree.

44:43Good, not good, good, not good. We pick about 3-4 topics here. After this pick, we have made an AI agent system. What is that? the first step is to write script. How do you write script? Again, I have fed a lot of scripts that I have worked in the past that have gone viral. So it knows how I write scripts. So it is able to mimic my script writing. So this topic goes through. This topic is deep research. The step one is researching about this topic. We use Perplexity API. Again, no code, nothing is needed. Perplexity API is a big document to research about this topic. This research goes into my prompt which is which has been fed with all the articles or all the LinkedIn posts and reads that have gone viral in the past so it knows kya kam karega kya kam nahi karega so wo script licks ta hai teen angles ke aur ek ek angle ka panch panch hook licks ta hai okay then a human in the loop comes in where we select which hook combinations do we like aur select honne ke baad diffusion model mein jata hai jahaan mera AI clone bana hua hai joh clone karta hai my video goes to 11 laps and to smallest.ai where my audio clone is.

45:54They bring all information and go to the video editor. Every piece of content that comes out has one body, five hooks. So what are the hundreds of pieces of content? What do we bring out? One body, three, four hooks. Now, with this content, we have five, six dummy profiles. We put it there. and check initial metrics. What is the first three second view? What is the retention rate? What is the view to share rate? We see which hook is best performing. And we have a benchmark. This is not automated. This is manual today. If it's a benchmark cross, then we put this video on Instagram. If it's not a benchmark, then we pick the right hook and post it on Instagram.

46:40If it's not a benchmark, we don't put that video on Instagram. Wow. Wow. As a result, from, again, I'm not a creator, I know you too. I'm very fun to experiment with you. Right? This was an experiment for me. Wild. In three months, 200k, right now it's at 600k followers, English content, tech content, average view per reel is 350k views. One out of three reels hits a million views on a 500k account with only English content. Damn. All AI. and how much time do I spend doing this 10 minutes a day sick this is insane so many people are creating AI content so many people it's not even funny I don't know anyone who has grown as fast as I have because there is an inherent creator marketer brain what does it do data experiment experiment everybody can do it which has been developed for so many years that what will happen and what will happen that gives you edge over everyone else so that is that edge you need that storytelling, copywriting, understanding people, psychology, that is that you need if you want to fast track it other people can also do it but it will get a salver it will get a salver because when you ask in simple words when you say 5 hooks or 1 body when you ask In starting, 6-7 months will take the right thing to get the robotics.

48:14Correct. And for a creator, it will be max. Correct. That's right. There's another insane opportunity. We are living in a world where distribution is going to be the most premium asset. Right? With AI, you can multiply content creation. It makes every sense in the world to start a production company, content company like companies movies to own 150-200 creators to own which basically their followers their views everything will be owned by you so technically they don't even exist you can do that as well you can create creators who don't exist random faces yeah generate faces massive opportunity generate faces how will it be you can do it this is mid journey great tool have you seen these videos of mine where I look like Harry Potter Iron Man my team does all these experiments so we are making ads using AI 2 years right now you can face swap to anything and if you can generate a photo you can become a realistic human which moves and does everything the process also is very simple you go to a tool like mid journey and now the 4.0 image generation is incredible right photo realistic image by giving the right prompt on how you want the character to be the advantage here is you can tell me I need 5 sides same face retain and I need 100 dress full free now take these images and go to a platform like Luma Labs dream machine Luma Labs Luma Labs dream machine and Runway ML and Sora Sora is not that great I'm waiting for VO2 which is Google's model which has the ability to convert an image into a life of a video you know I'm doing a runaway machine Sora does too but it's not good but yeah incredible what you can do today I can't even think what will it be far yeah wild So, and videos will also become themselves?

50:39Do I tell you something? I mean, I don't know if you've thought about it like this. I have investors, you have investors.

50:50My GPT is where I feed every conversation that I have with my investors, which is only with me obviously. Where before, let's say, today I have a board meeting. I upload a copy of deck. upload karta ho, I get on a voice mode and I say grill me like an investor. On voice mode. And it wears the hat of this grilled investor. Numbers dekhty ha, usko context hai pehle ka. Mene kya kiya ho hai usse pehle. Or yeh numbers dekhi mujhe grill karta hai call mein. So that you're prepared for the next investment. I'm prepared for whatever agar mera investor meeting do ghente ke waad hai. Mai hai, do ghente se pehle earphone laga ke grill kar raha hon kud ko.

51:31Wow. this is what you can do for when you are applying for a job as well of course right interviewer kya poochai and tere podcast se pere bhi min kud ko kya hon because you know when you do a podcast like this tu nye bola yaar will geek on AI and all of that, I socha yaar ye kuch fundamental question poochai ga lot of times we miss out on fundamentals only because we think we know it or min kuch galit na bol doon tu mene bola yaar min podcast kya raj ke saath it's going to be business AI and all of that, ask me the most fundamental questions where you think most of the humans will go wrong. Give me the answer and tell me how I can improve.

52:09And if I said something wrong, remind me. In the end, send a report so that I can read. So it started asking me simple questions. What is quantum computing? What is qubits? What is GPT? What is transformer? And then I started to give answers. And I was like, I have to think for everything. I know what it is. but it's my must practice so I do this quite a lot this is like a hack and I'll tell you another hack for all the people who are trying to learn doesn't matter right what we're talking about you can do this in the interview you can put a job description and say this is an actor as an interviewer and interview me you apply for this role this is my resume and this is a job description this is the person who's going to interview me here is his LinkedIn profile now act like Rajshamani and grill me for this interview and ask me the toughest of the toughest questions.

53:03Give me answers also. If I say it wrong, give me answers also so that I know what is the right answer. Incredibly powerful. And I'll also recommend you to do it. I don't know if you do this. Google AI Studio is a platform. There is an option to share your screen real time. So I don't have coding. I keep playing with all these open source repositories and all and I'm stuck because I don't have coding. So I can share my screen with Google AI studio and I can literally talk to it and it guides me to click on this button. Maybe this is wrong. Try this option because it can see your screen. It is on a video call with you.

53:44AI which means it uses 2.5 which is one of the smartest model. Multi billion parameter model. It's a video call his video not audio call your screen and talking and talking about what should do future can there be a better teacher than this how crazy and wild world that we are living in all of these are possible today and these are my learning tools bro fuck I like I like today YouTube video comes I have patience for watching podcast you have a podcast it's an interesting topic but I'm on the go I want to know 10 things what do I want to do take a podcast go to Emily there's a platform called meetemily.ai you go there you drop the video and you start chatting with the video chatting means what chatting means let's say hey let's say this podcast someone picks it up and drops it and it gives you a nice little summary saying they're talking about AI they're talking about all these tools and all and let's say notebook is coming which you mentioned what is notebook lm what is notebook lm can you tell me what that is it will explain and give a time stamp you click on it it will play the video exactly where you are saying notebook lm so that will give you the explanation there so this is we don't need it because wherever the word is it is in the description our word is not very important there is a option that will come that will come that will come that will come that will come that will come right there we will send it but i will tell you where I use it actually.

55:23Technical content which I have to understand. What is it? But I don't understand in the video because two engineers are talking. True. They are geeking out but I want to understand. Take a video, put it and ask questions. There's a voice mode also. I can turn on the voice mode. I can talk with that YouTube video now. These are all possible. These are my learning tools nowadays. I can't read a blog article. Sorry. This is a dull thing. that my situation is so much better what will happen to my children's situation

55:55it's you have scared me from the whole podcast I feel like I am very back I feel like I don't know what I have in the world I don't know what I have to give you 5 hours everyday just to learn all of these things I think it's a kickstart problem the moment you kickstart the moment you go in I passively throw you a little bit hours a little bit because you are in this world you are excited about every new thing that comes in aren't you excited about topics that you really like really enjoy this is how it is I've never been more excited in my life I can tell you this I can't remember when I was the last time I was so excited when he was cracking LinkedIn no there are phases you're right when this real cracking was happening on Instagram there was that phase LinkedIn when he cracked there was this phase but boss what a must time you get to learn something every day how many times it's happening how many times it's happening It doesn't happen today.

56:48But with this has come in, like it's so fun. It is so much fun, but it's scary. I have to tell you, three tools that you should use a small business owner. Small business owner. Look, we talk about AI revolution in the world. AI, AI, AI, there are many buzzwords. But when I talk to my father, I'm wondering, what is this? They know that I have taught them. What are the top three problems of a business owner? So I'm telling you. So now they know that they have meta AI on the top. ask you to go to Dubai what is the library of Dubai? So, three days of the library they make that format. That's their use case.

57:22Right? And if someone has something to send English he would go there and convert it to Hindi. So, he would convert it. That's their use case. Now, I have and my father like a million million million Indian business owners who maybe a small business or a small business or a trading business or a manufacturing business. It's a small business. 10 ,000 rupees from a month to a month to a month and a month to a month to a month small business that people can use AI and can expand their business because they will get the most affected because with technology there is no conversation and there is no conversation so they think that they will become a big and they will become a system which Which lot of people have survived lot of stuff.

58:14I mean, he's also surviving the e-commerce way. So, what should they do? Look, this is a very broad question. It is very hard to answer this and I'll tell you why. For this answer, I have to know their specific top problems. Because blanket answer. And someone wants to grow money. No, no. What is the problem? What is not allowing you to grow? To grow sales. Look, let's say. Okay. I'll go deeper to future questions I'll go deeper sell a personal take a personal we'll solve give me a personal my food okay what are you selling all the things I'm selling correct as a quick comment I'm facing trouble correct you have to grow business right so the first thing that I will do that I will advise them is don't be angry first start a big WhatsApp announcement channel where you have people come to for buying their phone number you will add in the announcement group.

59:14Okay. And every time you will have a new product. Or every time you will have a discount. Or you will start to deliver in the announcement group. You will know all customers about you and you will be top of mind. This is the bare minimum. You need to do everyone. Right. And when you make this announcement group you will need a marketing material. You will need to add a pamphlet. You will need to add a menu. . image ڈالنا ہے उसके लिए आप obviously chat GPT में जा सकते हो voice का button बटन बटन सकते हो मुझे ऐसे message बेज बेजना अपने whatsapp group में आप English में

1:00:03लिख के Matt and Alpaz right the third thing you can do is that if you have to keep a lot of food you have to keep eating what is the amount of food everything around it and you have to write all papers and you have to go and go and go how you manage it all the days end of the day photos go look at photos and put all the photos in a chat GPT window and tell that you have to make a final table and the old data the old photos and the new photos make a table make a book that will be made that you will see this you can do small things when it's a small business you can do everything nice or you can say voice that I made a bill and you can put it in the house that doesn't happen because you will have to build a custom GPT will make it which if you don't come your son will come on YouTube I will make an app Webhuffer or Raj has said in chat GPT he will make a GPT he will make a GPT YouTube will make it how can you make a small app and you will make an app for you because internet savvy there are a lot of kids they will figure out you will probably make a video you will also make a video no you will also make a video a little it's not so difficult it's not so difficult there is a tool called scalai which is calorie ai a child has made a tool without writing a single line of code how much of the app revenue you know how much is it?

1:02:0630 million dollars. You know what the app does? You can see the food. After eating the food, it estimates the calorie based on how the food is looking. It is a dead simple app for anyone to make. It used to be distribution. How do you do it? App marketing. I also want it. Brilliant app. Look at this madness. There's a guy called as Levelsayo. You will see it on Twitter. Indie maker. people have a simulation app flight simulator game all using AI racking and money the guy does solo prunar I don't know how many companies he started a little coding but now he does wipe coding wipe coding is essentially prompting and getting a product out the guy does 10 million dollars in revenue Lex Fritman in podcast 10 million dollars in revenue single person because we are talking about businesses I am telling you this there are so many opportunities there are jobs if there are jobs it doesn't mean there are opportunities there are many problems this is very interesting okay those entrepreneurs who think something big and all when we both started hand in your heart okay hand on your heart we didn't want to do anything which cannot be built into a billion dollar company yes or no because our aspiration was this that we have to make a revenue revenue to become a 15-year-old revenue so that it becomes a unicorn.

1:03:37Correct? This was entrepreneurship. For us. Now it has revolved for you, for me, everybody. But there is this category that nobody was looking at. You know, building 10 businesses doing 10 million dollars is much easier than building one business which will do 100 million dollars. Building 10 businesses which will do 1 million dollars is much easier than and building one business, which will do$10 million. And his insight is that, brother, you have one SOP, which can become$1 million, or$1 crore, let's say. That SOP can be applied to another place. Now, you don't need new insights. You need to learn how to replicate the model, in different places.

1:04:22You will replicate easily. It's much easier, that you will make 10 businesses, which will be$1 crore in a month, rather than one business, which will be$10 crore. and this is an arbitrage that exists because of AI because the cycle of product development is much faster now if you need customer support you need AI agent marketing material you need template before this you needed 10 teams you don't need it anymore you need probably like 10 EAs for you to manage each of the businesses with a lot of agents that is also a very interesting opportunity and today because this indie maker which is a solopreneur who can build a very sizable business the opportunity is the biggest before that if you think about it creators who are able to create content reach out to millions of people and make very good money but how many creators can be in India I will kill education creators like high quality creators the people that I consume are not more than 10 in fashion will be more than 15 in fashion All the ecosystem is made by 200?

1:05:31200 top great creators in the country? That's it? Or will it be? A lot. A lot of people. Okay, 2 ,000. For the country of size of? 140 crores. Now, that is the opportunity. There are only 2 ,000 slots. Or let's say 5 ,000 slots to make it. Now, 1 % of the creator will be able to earn money. How much? 1 ,000 ,000 per month. How many creators are in India who make 10 ,000 ,000 per month? According to you. I don't know. What do you think? You said 2 ,000. Do all people earn 10 ,000 ,000? If you earn 10 ,000 ,000, how much will it be? 1 crore per year. How many people? 1 ,000 people? 1 ,000 people earn 1 crore per year.

1:06:081 ,000 people. The chances of you making 1 crore by becoming a creator is 1 ,000 by 2. What billion people? 140 crores. 140 crores people. 1 ,000 by 140 crores people is your odd. To make 1 crore becoming a creator. pathetic odds it's the worst decision ever you get my point what is a higher odd 1 crore 1 crore by 12 months about 8 lakhs 8 lakhs 8 lakhs divided by 1000 how much 800 correct yes if you can build a product where 800 people give you thousand bucks thousand rupees a month you make more money your odds of building a very micro niche product maybe something for a very specific niche of people let's say a specific zameendar very specific niche that you understand and if you can make a product there are hundreds of thousands of micro opportunities like this which is not an entrepreneur because the entrepreneur who thinks I want to make something he thinks that he has to get a 100 million dollar revenue okay which is an agency which many people think business is all about a lot of people doesn't look at this idea because he says it's a very small niche it's not worth it but a solopreneur today all by himself can build it there you go micro niche and there's such a large opportunity man.

1:07:54Give me three ideas. This should be my last question because I'm asking all of them. Three ideas for? Three business ideas which anyone can start today as a solopreneur. Exact niche idea. I think one, as a solopreneur you can build an automation agency. What's this? Automation agency is that AI is there. AI is all over the place. But big companies can go TCS. to get companies to execute solutions for them. But you're a 100-year-old company. You're a 40-year-old company. Who can help you with that? You have to learn yourself. You don't have time. You're just saying that. I'm just saying that. I'm an AI trainer.

1:08:37Correct. So AI agency is a very interesting arbitrage that exists because all the medium to small companies don't have a solution today. Massive opportunity as a solopreneur. If you know five different, three, four different tools. make, zapier of course you need to know prompting what is the model, make, zapier na10, relevance AI, lindy crew AI, so many tools you can make a lot of good automation and agents. That's one. I think as a solopreneur you can build a vibe coding platform not platform, vibe coding studio vibe coding studio which is the same thing. You come and tell me, this research is a lot of time.

1:09:28You can make a tool. I should make a personal software. Which only I will use. And you also know that it can be done without code, but you don't want to put in the effort. There could be a lot of vibe coders who are very good with talking with AI. Who can build personal AI solutions which will only use 2E. There you go. he will charge for it 2-3 lakhs whatever you charge and it will charge for it how much time maybe 5 hours doesn't matter if you know how to wipe code really well right this is a very interesting opportunity which I am talking broad opportunity because I don't know what this person does or third third hmm this is for a little difficult for solo practice right but I think a very interesting opportunity exists it can't be a little solo practice it can be a little a big team for this which is service as a software line so for example let's say your bank right if you have some problem you call and you call and you have a problem you call the telephone and you will wait for 10 buttons after 10 hours wait after 10 hours will connect and most of the times that human is not smarter than you.

1:10:51They just have a SOP to follow. They know if they will say this, then say this. That's the same. This opportunity exists as a service as a software. You can build an agent and there are a lot of tools to do that. Again, for smaller businesses, like customer support. Or take customer support. Where you can become a voice agent using a tool like WAPI. Very easy to build. where someone can call me for example in the same case Airtel will call instead of putting any number because you are talking to AI you can directly talk to it and tell your problem and if it is already fed knowledge based then he will give you a solution this call used to cost 15 rupees to a company like Airtel per minute it's very expensive that is that can go away the reason why I said it's not just software is because in these cases right there will be cases which are knowledge-based and beyond, which are edge cases, there the human in the loop has to kick in.

1:11:55So if you have 100 or 10 people in the team, let's say, and you have this software, and you put that logic that anything beyond this question, it should come to a human automatically. Then you are able to set up a service as a software business. And you can enable a lot of solutions to enable, which was not accessible before. Companies which were not able to hire a customer support team because it's too expensive for them. You can be the solution for them. Absolute arbitrage. Absolute arbitrage. Wild. That's one more. But you don't have to do solo pronouns. You need a little big team. And BD team will be big.

1:12:39Yeah, but beauty is, bro, you have two clients. You have a little bit of a client. What do you mean? You have to make one, two, ten. crore so don't do 100 million you have to scale you cannot be a solopend it's very very hard but I could be wrong Sam Altman you know what he said 1 % billion dollar company is going to be happening if you look at mid journey image generator tool 30 people revenue same 25 members team 100 million dollars in revenue it's happening right in front of us it's wild thank you so much my brain is blown away now I will learn from you it was really great to talk to you after so long there's a background story guys me and web of how we met so web of linkedin was king on web of linkedin was king on web of linkedin and linkedin it cracked itself so linkedin was a trend and then he made courses on how to grow LinkedIn I had a message on his ad didn't we meet before that?

1:13:54no no I had a message and started talking then I had 40-50 followers I had a message on my web of I had 20 20 then I had a message on my web of and I had a message on my web of and I had a message on my web of we had a group that we all had a good friend so we had a group where web of was I, I, Varun Maya we were all creator friends and we decided that we wanted to make something in life and we wanted to make something and this group was someone else that was the entrepreneur first and creator second we wanted to make businesses we didn't make any content creator but that time TikTok banned and Reels started so we decided to do the WhatsApp group that we will do the Reels new thing.

1:14:44One day, one reel. Every day. Every day. Oh my God. We will make a reel. Oh my God. And we will add and we will learn and we will share every 30 days in each other. We will share what we learned and what we learned so that we can better and we can get better. And so we became friends. And until today we made web up and we made Reels. No, this story is a little bit a bit. The real story is we all started making reel. I did 15 days after give up. I don't know how many days he gave up but Raj gave up as a result he grew you grew and you got to like I think a million followers and I don't know if you remember this before the podcast we started in Mumbai we were sitting and brainstormed and you were asking me what can I do so I said I can make a podcast creator I can make a podcast then I asked you a question I remember from a good direction where I asked you how will you ask questions I don't know how it works he said nothing we will talk like we both we will talk like this it will be two cameras it literally happened so today now the thing is different you are at probably 8 million 7 million subscribers on YouTube with the podcast and I am so bloody proud of you my brother thank you thank you but that's the story that day it started on a group until now there was not one day when I didn't make content.

1:16:12That's true. One day only. And that's how it started. And Vebov started building a company. So since then, Vebov has, there's not been a day where Vebov stopped building a company. So he's also growing. I'm growing. And I just look back and look, Varun's also growing. Everybody's growing. I was like, wow. What does it say? What does it say? Value CC. What does it say? Value content creators. No, no, no. What does it say about people? it's just that everybody can do it we just give up none of us did we always try to find that's the great part about that group right everybody did everything different and by the way and everyone has seen failures if you look at Varun built and failed then he made a massive outcome you started two three things failed and figured out pivot and made something else I started failed and made something else then failed and then failed and then we all failed back to back Like, Bichman, Prakar has started, closed, then started, then closed, then started, like...

1:17:12And every time we failed, we spoke with each other. Yeah. In some form or fashion. And everyone was crying. Why? He was like, I was speaking to Webberho about this and we all had like same trauma. Sometimes we are hurting people, sometimes we are hurting ourselves, sometimes we are hurting investors. We are hurting all of them. Bichman, crypto, crypto.

1:17:35NFTs, crypto. I said to my shit. I'm sitting in the night at 2 o 'clock and I'm trying to get NFT. Oh shit. Wild times. But good stuff, man. From that time we all have kept. And I'm so proud that everything is not something. Like just look at this. Like it's just insane that none of us talked. Different fields. None of us talked. So that's why me and Veibov go long back. And it just happened. Here's a podcast. Veibov one day called that I want to do this, I'm doing this. And they're like, yes, okay, do you? Like it has never been anything else. Yes. So it's a, I feel extremely proud. I'm very happy.

1:18:16My company, when I started, one of the first investors in Webhuff was there. When Webhuff was there, the company started, one of the first investors. So it's funny, right? I'm your angel investor and you are my angel investor. And it's the same with Varun as well. Yeah, same. Varun also is the same. We were the angel investors. It's just. And Varun invested in my company as well so wow good full cycle full cycle sub sub ek duseye saath hi grow karareh abhi bhi intel share karete hai abhi bhi bhi have a sounding board it's and it's so for me the lesson is ki whatever who you are today find people like you which now good same journey hai tu hai padai chalega yeh sab kise fatteng hee or yeh sab itna intel ik duseye sa share can i say one thing it's not find people like you I don't think we did that I think we had this feeling you correct me if I'm wrong at least I had the feeling that everyone in the group I thought were smarter than me and I thought I'll learn from them for me the feeling was I thought yeah I felt like everybody's trying to do something yes and I will have something to learn from them yeah yeah so I I call it me for me it was like everybody's on a similar journey with me.

1:19:32So, the same type of journey, like, at that time, my friends were probably 50 times more than that. At that time, my friends were probably 5 levels. But, the most strong friendship even today is with you guys. Because we were all on the same level. Correct. And today, we are all on the same level. And we are all on the same level. And we are all on the same level. And it's almost the same level. And also, people don't know this. Which is, I think, even you don't know this. My, My first brand deal was an upgrade. I gave it. I got 70 ,000 euros. I was given a lot of money. And I didn't get money for him for a year.

1:20:13I didn't get it. So, he had done a brand deal. And after that, he didn't get money. I think we were talking about 6-8 months later. He didn't get money. And after that, I did it. I got money. And that's my confidence. He had to leave Indore and come to Bombay. That, bro, you can get$70 ,000. You can get$70 ,000 in a brand deal. So, you were my first brand deal. I got you the first brand deal. But I eventually ended up building a company to compete with Upgrade directly. Brilliant. That's amazing. So, my brand deal is pending. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. Awesome, man. This was fun. Yes. It felt like a, again, a very long conversation that we usually have.

1:20:56but this time it was longer than usual because our calls usually happens in the nights yes we can talk about one hour and talk about something more unfiltered hello what is up big man

1:21:12how far is that far down it's a great thing what a cool setup man good you like it Yeah man, very good. Okay, you're playing table dance? Yeah, yeah. You can't play? No, we'd do a little bit of play. You'd play a little bit of play. You'd play a little bit of play. Yeah, you'd play a little bit of play. You'd play a little bit of play. You'd play a little bit of play in Mumbai. You're staying here, right? Yeah, yeah. This is fine, right? You're doing what you're doing, Masha? This is your new addiction. I like it. I like it. Makes me feel less guilty about myself. You are not doing body-wired.

1:21:55You are not doing body-wired. Trying new explorations. It's great. Keep it up. I also do a lot of workout. Thank you so much for watching this episode. Now you have to do three things. First of all, subscribe to this channel. Because as much as you subscribe, we will get more valuable guests for you. Number two, tell me in comments, what did you feel good and bad? So we can repeat the mistakes. mistakes repeat na kar pahe and kounse aise guest hai joh ap dekhna chate ho wapis humare podcast pe ta ki hum unhe le ke a hain aur aapko zada zada value de paain and number three ye episode kisi ek insaan ke saath zaroor share karna kyunki one conversation can change someone's life.

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