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Podcast Notes: Raj Shamani's Figuring Out - Episode with Gaurav Gill
Episode Overview In this episode titled "Why Humans Turn Into Monsters: Body Language, Mindset & Traumas," host Raj Shamani invites Gaurav Gill, a consultant psychologist and body language expert. The conversation delves into the psychology behind criminal behavior, particularly focusing on serial killers, and how body language can reveal hidden emotions and intentions.
Key Themes
- Understanding Criminal Behavior
- Ted Bundy Case Study:
- Notable serial killer with a charming persona.
- Examines the allure of Bundy's charisma and his ability to manipulate others.
- Traits of Serial Killers:
- Common characteristics: lack of remorse, charm, high intelligence.
- The role of childhood trauma in shaping deviant behavior.
- Indicators of Potential Criminality:
- Early signs include cruelty to animals, bed-wetting, and arson tendencies.
- Importance of early psychological evaluation for at-risk children.
- Body Language Insights
- Detecting Lies:
- Techniques for identifying deception through body language cues, such as:
- Eye contact (or lack thereof).
- Changes in blink rate.
- Lip compression.
- Micro-expressions:
- Subtle facial cues that may indicate emotional states or intentions.
- Power Poses:
- Discusses how adopting confident body language (like the "steeple" pose) can impact presence and perception.
- The Role of Trauma and Environment
- Impact of Childhood:
- Discusses how factors like an absent father and nagging mother can contribute to psychological issues in children.
- The normalization of violence in some environments can lead to more severe behavioral problems.
- Cognitive Load and Stress:
- The impact of stress on body language and communication.
- Understanding how stress influences behavior, especially in high-stakes situations.
- Psychological Profiles and Criminality
- Pathological Liars vs. Good Liars:
- Differences between high-functioning liars who can create convincing narratives versus those who display clear signs of stress.
- Discusses how liars often use distancing language to diminish the severity of their actions.
Key Takeaways
- Body Language as a Tool:
- Learning to read body language can improve personal interactions and help detect deceit.
- The Power of Early Intervention:
- Identifying and addressing childhood trauma can prevent future criminal behavior.
- Cultural Influences:
- Societal norms and cultural conditioning can significantly affect individual behavior and perceptions of right and wrong.
- Self-awareness and Personal Growth:
- Encouragement to reflect on one's own body language and how it affects interactions with others.
Conclusion The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding human behavior, the impact of trauma, and the subtleties of body language in both personal and professional contexts. Raj Shamani and Gaurav Gill aim to provide insights that help individuals navigate relationships and societal challenges effectively.
Links and Resources
- Follow Gaurav Gill for more insights on body language:
- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/bodylanguagewithgauravgill)
- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/gaurav-gill-7241bb63)
- Subscribe to the Figuring Out Podcast for more engaging discussions.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00There's a serial killer who likes murder andη He was a serial killer. He was a king of the king. The police got a dead body. The dead body of the sir and the guptan are both cut. He was killed by his brain and fried him. Then he was made soup and ate. He was saying that, I don't want to find the intelligent people. And his brain was worth it. You will not have any remorse. But you will have to convince me that I have an emotion. They will fake it. Gaurav Gill, a consultant psychologist and body language expert. Today we will know what we can predict from body language. We can spot a criminal from body language.
0:43How do we try to use the criminal gestures to look innocent? And we can do which mistakes we can dislike. So you're not born serial killer. Correct. There's a society that you have with, which you turn into a serial killer. What happens? If you look at the child's three qualities, number one, where the chance you get, it's a fire. to put the arson. Second, where dogs and cats or any animal saw him, he tried to kill him. And third, he was 8-9 years and now he started bed wetting If these three look at McDonald's Tride there are chances that he will go deviant behavior. I have to detect some nonsense I have to tell you things that I can do.
1:24You have to tell stress. You asked if you have a project and you are talking about it. Then you go back. Look, it's going to be a gestural retreat. Number two, this is a very amazing assignment. We will do it. I'm planning to ask you for your plan. Eye blocking. He doesn't like what you're saying. In the ear touching, the people who don't like the talk to you doesn't feel good in the ear. So, the eye blink rate increases. You will show a quick flutter. Lip compression. You asked a question and you didn't get answer. And in the response, you got a question. Red flag. What should we change in our body language?
1:56To look powerful instantly.
2:14Thank you.
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4:20and it's called halo effect in psychology the gold circle in the end of the halo effect that the judge who was American said that I wish you were practicing law so I wish you were practicing law I wish you were practicing that but that was his charm if the judge was his charm so the other people but how did he get it? okay So Unhung ko Unhi ki jose girlfriend thi Unhung ko Jho jho symptoms Betane leagay Unhung ne ake report kiya Ki Ye hai to mere saath Ache se rehatta hai Mere pe kubhiy attack nai kiya Lekiin ye sab Jaysse aap bata rhe hai Ki is age ka admi Unhung ne criminal profiling kari Is age ka admi Or well educated Or ake aise baat kerta hai Impress ker deta hai To kiati Ishi profile ka My husband has also You want to try that man But I am not sure My husband has never attacked He has never attacked Because if I am Immediately partner Attacked me Then I am Number one suspect So immediately partner I don't do it He does all the rest So then He has been Suspect But last He has maintained That I have not done anything He has Interviews He has also Prison psychologist He has also Charm same for Charles Shograj also but I want to understand this yeah you will try to analyze serial killers and decode what do you see common traits what is common in a serial killer versus a regular maybe a criminal or maybe a regular person not a criminal what happens if they have a crack that they like murder Yeah, right.
6:20That's a good question. If someone has a crime in the heat of the moment, and then he will go to the arrest, then he will repent. If everyone will repent, then he will go to the spiritual. He will feel that he will be a good person. There was some emotion that he was given. He was a serial killer. yes, that is, should I use Indian to be name used as Daar. If you use this scripture when using an intelligent people was there. And it hadn't got what poor they need. so she needs it,
7:07I should still keep running soon as a part of wife's name is full and he has put it in the name of the name of the wife. So to tell you, you will show that there is no remorse. There is no remorse. There is no remorse. But you will be convinced that I have an emotion. They will fake it. They will mirror your emotions. And you will also feel convincing. And you will also passing not only so they show regular human beings but I have told you that limbic brain which is your emotional brain that's the size of your brain because MRI scan if you scan it then they show changes that we don't have to but they will have to so there will be a little response head camper said
8:13that's my calling
8:37so high IQ no remorse and we don't know what to do and we don't know what to do and we don't know what to do so this is what to do so what to do
9:00is it childhood trauma is it a particular thing which is twist I don't think That when someone comes to a child I say I'm a big serial killer No right, it doesn't work like that So you're not born serial killer Correct What happens in society with you You turn into a serial killer What have you noticed Based on your opinion Sure, you said That you don't have a born serial killer So let's ask you a question That when a child Which age starts to stress How do you feel? What do you feel? Three years, four years, two years Stress? Yes, it feels like a lot of stress I would I mean visible stress will start in teenage But if You say sadness and little remorse I think then that will start in 6-7 months Okay, good I know that you feel good good experiences, good experiments, good experiments.
10:05So, in that line, the child has stressed the first time, it begins to be born. In the womb? In the womb. So, this is a research from University of Durham by Nadja Riesland. Okay. So, they have a sonogram on some of the mothers. So, when the mother was stressed, the cortisol, the stress hormone passed. As the mother passed the stress hormone, the Bucca aapna face scratch Careghter Peet me Left hand Face scratch Careghter Eyebrow Or thumb sucking This will be Ultrasound Or sonogram In the way So Pieda on the way Stressed Now Delivered The environment Isco Milta Is Normalized That is Very Important If you And My My Heard Is Physical Violence Not So We Bought Bڑی Bات Is To We Is Acceptable Not But If Nerveha that case when you see the perpetrators of Ram Singh, he said that our family had been marpit.
11:06So, what happened to us? What happened to us? He said that he had been told. He said that he had been marpit. So, he had been normalised. That he had been marpit. So, this environment in childhood trauma, especially childhood trauma, and more abuse. abuse करना इसमें एक और research कहते है कि absent father और nagging mother ये भी बहुत damage करते है बच्चे को father चाहे job के लिए बाहर हो या father emotionally available ना हो और mother सारे time बच्चे को poke करती रहे तो बच्चे के अंदर deviant tendencies produce हो जाती है
11:53और फिर after contested. But if you see three qualities of a child, number one, where he was going to be, he was going to be an arson. He was going to be an arson. He was going to be an arson. The second one, where dogs and cats, he was going to be an animal, he was going to be a stone. He was going to be a stone, he was going to be a second. And the third one, 8-9 years ago, now he has bed wetting started to start aneuryses so he has a emotional regression but he does not do it, but he has some of his things, which he has had to start to start if he has 3, the McDonald's Tride chances are that he has big and deviant behavior will go so I have to tell you absent father, nagging mother animals animals to harm Ed Kemper had his bed urine pass all red flags are so if you need to actually visit a specialist you need to visit a specialist FBI John Douglas discovered serial killers so he said this is the school that is a child that is seriously damage done to think
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13:43ZYADH TER UNMA TRAUMA HOTA UNMA TRAUMA HOTA Okay But still it is not justified It's not justified I'm trying to understand But yes you're right I want to talk about ABC Like two types of people Who are angry So one who is angry They are torn their hands And the other who are shut And quiet But what you're seeing is Just the behavior But it's not the A A is antecedent of the behavior behavior, when did it come? Why did it come? And why did it come? And the behavior of consequences came? This behavior is younger days. This is not what we see. This is over a period of time. So, this behavior is always in our hands.
14:32But we are ignorant of how we develop. And many people have attention for their hand. But we will not cut
15:01to protect us.
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15:41का अटेंशन के लिए a lot of kids do it. Correct. वो बार बार अवना हाथ काटते हैं ता कि parents का अटेंशन मिले. Right. Is signs, is this sign something very wrong? अगर आज किसी ने किया है या बच्छमन में किसी ने किया है तो what does it signify? See depending कि वो कितना old है, एक तो number one ये बात है. This is what I've done in children's age. In 12-13 years, children have been in school age. Before 16, usually, children have been. Now, they're going to be 30-30 years old, whatever that age is. But it's a child's age. Does it signify something that the child has behaved? Maybe it's a attention-seeking behavior.
16:17Or it's about their mental health. Or can you tell something about a person? Yeah. So, see, if you see marks like these, or an adult, and you want to strike a conversation, then out of curiosity we can always ask but what do you think what does it signify it doesn't mean that they will do it again because it was different in the teenage 14-15 when your emotional brain is almost completely developed but your car breaks means your frontal lobe is 25 years old so it doesn't have it so at that time whatever mistake you did experimental or intentional that doesn't mean it is a predictor of the future behavior it can be but at least it can be told that there was an emotional divide between but is that divide still going or not if you ask questions then you will think about responses I will say something I will say about a statement about something you have this someone said I love you and there the answer is love you too.
17:26Does it look okay? And doesn't it give me a message? or does it not? Okay. What did they do? Yes. Oh, it was, just the difference was that it has not come. I love you. Love you too. So, those who have told a few times, that their boyfriend, that soient not involved. It's called the power of pronouns in statement analysis. So, when I don't use it, usually, so in that case, what happens is that I don't have my presence in it. You know, I will always be there for you. I love you. Love you too. Love you too. Yeah, I love you too. Love you too. Love you too. So, it doesn't come. So, this is a research by Dr.
18:14James Penny Baker and he says that if someone hasn't done that experience, he will have a pronouns gaped from there. What do you talk about? My mom I say love you too My partner If I say I love you too Or love you too This is so normal It doesn't mean that I don't love them So in that case That's what you say Behavior is a need for So what you say Love you too But what behavior is Is it that you also patched Then it's okay But in this condition Which case was Love you too But the behavior So, he said that he was so interesting. But he wrote that he was so interesting. So, after that, he said that he didn't come.
19:02Anyway, this research Dr. James Payne Baker is called The Power of Pronouns. So, he says that when we analyze statements in the police, the pronouns are absent. Where were you yesterday? Went to meet a friend. Had a great time. Came back home. No pronoun is not. chances are that you can't experience it it's a joke it's a joke it's a joke okay now what are the police cases what are the cases many times complainant he accused so what are the conditions they say they say I was looking at all I was looking at all in the same way singularly team pronouns so that blame me they don't have to go so they go all the so these pronouns pronouns are, so team pronouns, you have to listen to a statement, that you say, that you say, you will listen to a statement, you will listen to a statement, what you say and what you say, you have to take a name or not, it makes a lot of difference, if someone has murdered, and after that, let's say, Ramesh has murdered, and you have asked, if Ramesh is dead, oh sir, वो तो पता नहीं उसका accident हो गया फिर तुम उसके साथ कब बैटे थे मैं तो उसके साथ कब से बैटा था हाफ एनार हो गया उसने एक बार भी रमेश नहीं का But this could mean very casual also, this is not true I'll tell you there is a reason So क्या होता है, कि जो भी जहां भी guilty knowledge है या जहां भी उस person के साथ involvement है उसको बोलते ही आपका blood pressure spike होता है ठीक है?
20:46क्योंकि आप क्या association है उसमें तो अगर मैंने जिसे चोरी करी है तो मैं चोरी word नहीं यूज करूँगा फिर मैं बोलूँगा मैंने कुछ उठाया नहीं है क्योंकि चोरी immediately hits इसको psychological distancing या softening of severity of the crime कहते हैं so word use I have words to disassociate correct or distance now go to President Bill Clinton former American President so he said you had a relationship with Monica Lewinsky so he said what was the statement I did not have sexual relations with that woman Miss Lewinsky some months after he confessed but he said distancing language so in crime he also he used distancing language use کرتے ہیں اس کا نام نہیں لیں گے یا crime کا نام نہیں لیں گے interesting very interesting okay so serial killer میں first time کیسا ان کے دماغ میں switch آتا ہے جب okay وہ first time crime کرتے ہیں کیونکہ جیسے اگر آپ نے بولا کتنے 35 murder کر دی ہے right 5-6 بار murder کر دیا serial killer بن گئے ہم ان کو پتا تو تب چلے گا نا کہ جب first time وہ kill کریں گے کہ ارے مجھے اس میں مزا آتا ہے ہم first time experience تو نہیں ہے So what happens in the brain that I will see you?
22:02Okay, okay Okay, good This is good This is good Netflix episode of Netflix Okay, you can see it Okay So in the kids In younger days Around 7-8 years Obsession comes Obsession comes Fantasy goes And fantasy comes If I do this How do I do it? And if If I do it के बाद सामने वाले का क्या response होगा और अगर आपने ऐसा किया और उसको करने में आपको adrenaline rush मिल गया तो आप हर crime के साथ उसको better करना चाहोगे इसमें मैं green river killer का example दूँगा वैसे तो on record उनोंने 40 murder करे जातर सब हाद से करे और IQ भी लो था तो भी नहीं पकड़े गए Gary Ridgeway और polygraph �
23:18clear Hei diya to מד the method sory Paid ep니ak le. after you have to give up. But then you have to do a time when you have to hunt. Then you have to hunt for a second. Then you have to do a subject. Then you have to do a subject. Then you have to do a cycle. Then you have to do a depression. So, you have to do multiple victims. It's a Dennis Raider. It's called BTK. Bind Torture Kill. First bind you, torture you, then kill you. । it had never had jargon mosque time Bind Torture Kill So he would like to do this But he would like to do this But he would like to talk about it Because he has a government job before And he would like to work with community Social work But he would like to do this So you can't detect The good guy is good He is a good guy So that is why they run two lives But he is obsession He is fantasy Then he is drill in rush And then he is depression And then he is gap And then he is attack You know these games Which is fun to play You can kill people All of these are very Enjoyable process Do you think that all of these Impact has to be made?
25:11That is a fantasy or obsession Create a lot If you see Netflix These shows are The shows are Crime thriller The girls are The girls are The games play The girls are The first Behavior is ki aggression dhekne me ya woh dhekne me maza hata hai ya karne me maza hata hai me love on games me ko research quote karne ka baut achha lagtai to us me me dr roberts sapolski ka naam dheta ho unko rockstar of neuroscience kehti hai yeah i love him so i yeah me too so dr roberts sapolski kehti hai that if you're born as a human then you have violence inside you okay Natural behavior is aggression Natural behavior is aggression You will see wrestling, you will see other sports You will see a good name Kolkata Knight Riders Gladiators, Challengers These names are good Why do you keep peace lovers?
26:11Another Gun is who has caught That will determine if you have the support Or criticism If a terrorist has caught Wrong This is wrong But if some forces have been shot by counter-operation Then they will appreciate that this was right In a way, you have that support Right? So, the doctors say that they are in our hands And just as you said, the boys play the violence game So, Stanford University did experiment in school And they said that it was a Bobo Doll experiment In Bobo Doll experiment, it was not that You kick and the doll is down and then you come up So, three to six years old Bucs can see And there is a clown And there is a clown He only plays So, the kids are sitting there And there is a clown He only plays And there is a clown And there is a gun And there is a plastic knife And a gun Which kids see Later on what happens Which is just playing So, the kids have Replicate But the kids have Kick and take it And then What did the kids have What did the kids have Knife Uttay gun Uttay And Ustay Stab Kiyo Bobadol Kuo This is a real experiment For Stanford University So violence Or amplified And replicate So the games Or which we watch Is this A lot of impact At our psyche So So I have to say It doesn't mean That I'll turn into something No no And it doesn't mean That all of us will do But It doesn't mean That it's not That it's It's Impatience A saktay hai right you get impatient Aap Technology Me saktan ho saktay hai Aapko criminally Deviant karne ke liye bhoat factors Laghate hai aek factor nahi hai Okay Children copy it very quickly Bhoat jaldi copy kar late hai Because of mirror neurons forehead ke pichhe mirror hai Aap dhekho Aap school mein Koi yawn karta to aap bhi yawn karo ge Eek su su jara hai bathroom to us, us can go back two hours, they don't know why he went.
28:21Similarly, if you are talking about it, interview, interrogation, you change the gesture and see if the other person also changes. They do. So you know that you've got them. He's got you in line. That's a way to test. And if someone is more than a year on, at British airport, it's a red flag. Because more than a year on because the mouth is dry, तो उसमें moisture आता है excessive yawning is a stress sign so that is also a thing coming back to this thought क्योंकि आपने आपने वादा fantasy बनती है पहले thoughts आते है फिर आगे होता है I know so many people उनकी यह कही नहीं कि अंदर मन में एक thought चल रहा था कि यह बहुत आरय हुआ मैं random but if you have a scenario that if you have 2-3 people then you will kill a lot or you will be a hero in your mind everybody has that most of the people let's just don't say everybody majority people have that so is that a wrong sign because technically a thought or fantasy that I will kill here I can sometimes I will take a gun lhe ke jahun ga on with the army or ja ke mein enemy ko maharun ga terrorist ko maharun ga ya normal ho sakta college mein ki mein 4 dosto ke sat ja ke saman jale ko maharun ga ya normal life map chal raha or laghe ki is mein mirse lada lada ke ho dheke goi there are multiple layers to this but there's a fantasy have you ever had it yeah younger days younger days is mein age stage of life wo matter karata hai and uske saath saath ye fantasy to it can also be fueled by movies also yeah I can take on things games movies that's all right this is all internet stimulated I'm just talking about fantasy like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ed Kemper they imagined killing people there's no such fantasy this is the only fantasy heroic fantasy is okay but not that I'll kill 50 times that's different The kidnapped whose Born She Good Pretty She Well Of Of
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32:20So, I thought that if someone is elderly, I would talk to them. But he was young, a student was passed out. So, usually they say no, if someone is joking,
33:01I don't know Bindi roti Bindi roti Okay Dal bindi roti Dal bindi roti You can tell me it's going to go You know Me to know it's not But see I have to ask you You can tell me what you have to do So you have to look left That's right That's right Recall for the way Because eyes move When you look at information Recall for the way But you don't have to Not yet That's right That's right When I have investigation So Legs of the distance So Legs of the distance Lean And And And And And So So, when I got input, I said that it's not a suspect, it's a innocent. When I talked about it, I was very happy to have a red flag.
33:50Because I was sitting there and I was sitting there. We were all continuously tracking for seeing my story. So, the research that I've maintained, is that I've maintained the eye contact. maintain especially this criminal settings that red flag is because you want to see that you can believe or eye contact break it is threat tracking and the second I have the difficulty faced investigation if you ask you can see records that you were present I was not mistaken. I was not mistaken. What are you doing now? It is so frustrating because what do you do? What do you do? I have memory lapse. I don't remember.
34:44I don't remember. Then I did a long conversation. I didn't understand. I didn't understand. information that the primary set got shipped The
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35:16investigation tests I I could clear so that the other questions were so that he was quiet but I saw that when he was in the lie detection test he was cleared and when he was our prime suspect he felt he felt stress because he was a detector and he didn't and after he was one more test so when he was another test I said, you have to admit it. I said, you have to admit it. He said, you have to admit it. He says, you have to admit it. So, I said, okay. You have to check your phone. He said, yes sir. I said, let me see Google history. Where you have to write it. That you have to admit it. I will admit it.
36:05If you want to know your story. So, I saw it 2-3 minutes. Then I said, no. Then I said, That must have been My father That they why made it I made it clear That they already Where it renting Who really didn't What What My student Mauna They Can
36:31It Put At I On Like my pleasure. forgetting to come back, you got tole when it happened you didn't yap it, sir. it just didn't bring off the game. What astray is very frustrating. You would break those. Then at that Rabindad,
36:56you got defense behind it. Then you can leave them to see it. You'll getiones after later. And then casual. Because in a casual conversation when the person relaxed and then the technique sandwich means I asked you if you have a movie if you have a movie then I have a question inserted in the past the American police do the first 40-45 minutes they don't touch crime until you will get a baseline how you behave how you move how you move then us ke baad us me stress फिर us ke hat comfortable फिर stress तो इत्य में आपको वो body language से उसके hot spots दिखाई देने लगते है कि यहाँ पे यह ज़्यादा clue दे रहा है तो इस area पे वापस मुझे उसको dig करना है कई बार आपको story verify करनी है तो उसको backward में बोलो बताने के लिए so example For example, you say, I said, I was going to swim for a while, I was jogging for a while, I was going to library, I was going to dinner, I said, I said, I said, I said, if it goes to the sequence, it will be a sequence, or all the things that will happen, it will be a lapse.
38:15Next, the vision is only used to use, it will not be used, it will be cognitive,
38:50cognitive I thought that you can't think that you can't even think. And just like I talk about it, I talk about it. I'm just talking about it. I'm just talking about it. I'm just talking about it. I'm just talking about it. So... Have you seen a criminal bluff? Have you made a move? Yes. Have you seen a... Have you realized that, oh shit, I'm not sure about it. I don't know if I'm not sure about it. worry so I have a lot of people who are aware of concern that the fines really happen by the person who is very sweet.
39:30Still losing theirders. The sex has a lot these names and many people can be so she can in a town and ifs it has one hand and the other hand this hakkasins should be so like that how, so which turns aspects like fine. whole observer. It has been. I don't know that I will do a bluff. You have asked questions or answers. So, they usually bluffed. See, the crime is the criminal. It's not easy. You can just ask and decode the body language. They are trained. Well trained. Well trained terrorists. Psycho killers. What is your process? that you can detect a lie. Step one, step two, step three. Okay.
40:20So homework is very important. You can tell us a little bit about it. If you go without homework, you will have to go with a ride. He will have to go with a ride. Because the criminal thing is smart. He will be fast to read. So, if you do it, you do it. You do it. You do it. You sit on me. So, in such conditions, if you have homework, you know what the thing came to do. What is the interest? What is the background? What is the old case? This is a habitual offender. You should know this. If you say, sir, you do this, read the file. You can see the file. You know that there is no idea. It's the number one homework.
41:08Number one homework. very important and number two in such conditions you have to say it encourage you to say it you have to say it and you have to say it it's more than that sometimes you think that everything is all but sometimes you don't give everything because it's not so let him talk when you give him let him talk so individual you can talk and you can play that I don't know I will teach you to me. So, in such conditions, he will say two steps. This is elicitation. Okay. Right? Play dumb. Yeah, play dumb. Like I said, 40-45 minutes, I have touched not done. So, he will be confused. Here I will say, I will say, why are you doing this?
41:58Right? He will show you. So, he will show you. He will show you some baseline. He will show you. So, you will exercise. Okay. can oh do Liar do not read too much so exercise forget 3 simple do not read what do do do do
42:33do to F T H I J L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Thank you excellent So this stage 1 was right Now you have to do stage 2 This is how you do Just now you go reverse So Z Y X This is how you do I don't know I don't know This is how you try But this is how you do okay I'm going to reverse this Zen X Y W V U T S R Q P O N M L Good what's that K I thank you I just wanted to stress. What is the basic exercise in high stress situation?
43:45When you did multiple processing, before default, you were talking about A to Z. You were talking about this. What happened? You were talking about hand clap, or you were talking about speech late. When someone gives high stress, dytethe to us ka joh hand movement eus me fark a jata ya to chalna hi band ho jayega ya phir ho saka sa sri wiki hand chalega to yoh professor alder vrei ki research from portsmart university or speech me bhi problem a jati ya to wata kata kke bolnene lagega ya response latency manne puchha aap kal kaha pe thay dost ke sath jabki aapko pata eak investigation kala hai hai phir bhi aapne tata time लगा है इसको response latency कहते है तो यह red flag है यह red flag है यूशली लोग prepared ही आते हैं और hand movement तो मैंने आपको दिखाई दिया slow हो जाता है stress में और deception में भी कई बार hand movement बहुत dead हो जाता है होता ही नहीं है Bill Clinton ने जब जूट बोला कि I do not have sexual relations with that woman जब देते तो उनका hand चलता ही नहीं है hand एक �
44:57So yeah. I'm thinking of a situation in real life. That where do you detect lie? That place. You'll see in the family. Tell me if you want to detect a lie in reality. If someone is saying something, I want to detect something. Tell me the top three things that I can do. The technique that I know immediately. Okay, see, top three things When you ask a question You can see stress You can see stress If you look at it, you can see it You can see it You can see it You can see it You can see it It's called physical distance And psychological distance bhi bada na is ko gestural retreat kahte hai us ko emi baat pe faith nuhin hi hai that is number one number two ye toh bhot amazing assignment lag raha hai milke kareenge my plan manata ho sir aapke liye jhoot eye blocking he doesn't like what you're saying thik hai nose touch me high stress me hoti hai her baat jhoot pei nuhi hoti hai high stress me hoti zukhaam bhi ho sakti hai kisiko but eye blocking ear touching 차ka
46:31B zar I don't know okay okay, 60 to 80 right our eyes next question our eyes 1 minute blink 12 to 20 times blink when you relax and you're very interested and you're going to go to dinner date then blink you'll be reduced because you want to see this in such conditions if you asked if you asked that that you didn't see the profile in your profile. So, the eye blink rate increases. That is the load. It's called cognitive load. So, in this condition, you can see high stress. You can know that you can see the blink rate. You can see a quick flutter. A quick flutter can see. Lip compression can be.
47:43When lips disappear, the stress is near. So, you can see the difference. means be answer
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48:15bral problem ambiguous answers is a problem you have asked a question and you have no answer not got the answer and in the response you have got a question in red flag it's called question reversal strategy did you kill your wife are you asking that I killed my wife absolutely not this is a real life case so I am quoting from that so question reversal strategy do you really think I can kill you really think I can kill do you think I am capable of doing so yes do you think I will kill my person like that lot of people do that yes Alex Mordok is the case you saw adolescence amazing technically she does the same thing with the kid right that's an apt role description job somewhat somewhat somewhat I do a lot of mind-hunter too, I try to understand the psyche of the front.
49:12I give you a good example. Recently, there was a podcast where an IPS officer came. And he said that he was in jail. He was in the jail. He was running in the jail. He was running in jail and was running in jail. So he said, sir, you are an officer. What do you do running?
50:01So, that's what I wanted to say. That's what you do. You try to decode the context. Yes. Okay. Is there, if you think that stress if people get increased, they're talking about it. When they're talking about it, then stress increases. That's the situation. But not for everyone. Someone doesn't increase. They're smooth talkers. They're not smooth. They don't have a difference. In fact, they get high in talking about it. They're pathological liars. But some people are good. people who are stressed. You can rely on them because they are stuck. Tell me a difference. Good liar or bad liar? Okay. See good liars are those liars which cannot be easily caught and they'll make you sound everything is convincing.
50:51What do you do? What kind of good liars are? What kind of bad liars are? Okay. Good liars are very confident. The first thing is that they are almost con men. होते हैं ना confidence से ही लिया गया है con man so con man होते हैं वो आपकी eyes में डालके आप ही को convince कर देंगे कि जो आपको सोज में आ रहे हैं वो है यह नहीं ठीक है आप distorted सोच रहे हो ठीक है that is one number two वो आपको brainwash कर देंगे ठीक है you will doubt yourself that my thinking is not right and facts will tell exaggerated no stress sign no stress sign and they will be very smooth they are very smooth and you feel that you are saying right I don't want to take news but that you are saying right the bad liars those that you have to do
52:17So, I have read that good lies are two things that are good one is identity creation when you ask what you were doing where you were how you were what you were you describe that situation and you will create a new identity for yourself so for example if you have said here you are going to get out of there so not because you have to distance you will have to details
52:58details they'll always figure out a new word or a new identity which you attach to. For example, when you're like cheating then you'll create a saint to manipulate and and here the future of identity will create you and me you and I are like you think that in the future we are like today if we are talking about doubts then what will happen in the future what will happen you are trying to remove the present from which way to which way you are trying to attach yourself to a future identity or past identity excellent thank you so just as you said there is a strategy that is holier than thou you know Bhagawan my sakshi you know you know what you're talking about Bhagawan knows I haven't done anything Momi's question Momi's question Bhagawan's question I go to the temple but it's not possible this is the first time that happens so identity creation with your brain you feel like a new person you're more confident in talking about it yes because when you ask me probably I'm going to talk not say that because you will get stressed.
54:18But if I made a false identity, I am a big fighter, I am a big fighter. Before I was a big fighter, I was a big fighter, I was a big fighter, I was a big fighter, I was a big fighter, now I can speak to that identity very confidently with details. That is easier for me to lie. There is detachment. Detachment. So that's why stress will not be so much. So that was first strategy. And second strategy which I was reading that the liars are very beautiful details and they are so much details that they make a visual picture then you feel so much details that someone knows so definitely it's not a problem so they give extra details which normally day to day talk about details but when they say something they will picture print that when I was there I was left left I was a white color of the shop.
55:10But my job was not working. The third number of shop was Red Gate and I went to the Red Gate and I ordered a Ramesh came and they had me order. You will just randomly create so many little details and then keep telling people and you will add 1-2-3 details because in your brain and in the front of your brain both have a visual identity created. goyajayatiya jiski wajay se tumehye phir woo yad karna bhi asan ho tae ki painting man gai ab yehye hai right to load kaha se padha ya frontal lobe se woh jhoot ko suppress kerti ya ab jhoot ko jab suppress kerao ki kuch to zohr lagyega kuch to pressure lagyega ab koon kitna cha jhuta hai woh us meo ayse depend kerta ya depend kerta ya number one sign kya ho ta hai ki koji aap se chupa raha hai criminal crime karne kere about it.
56:05I will say in the statement of context, I will say that 25, 50, 25. What is it? 25 means that what was the first thing he was doing? That was 25 percent. 50 percent what was the first thing he was doing? That was the first thing he was doing. If he was not a criminal then. Last thing 25 percent was the first thing he was doing. But if he was a criminal and he was involved, walled है तो उसकी percentage change हो जाएगी वो starting में 50 बता देगा वो beach में 30 बता देगा और last में 20 वो चाहेगा कि beach का part जो actual crime है उसके बारे में कम से कम बता के deflect करके story वो कुछ और बता देगा minimum उसके बारे में maximum बाकि सारी दुनिया के बारे में so that's a number one sign interesting wow do you think micro expressions होते है psychopaths or criminals which you can see see micro expressions some kind of emotions universal but with certainties that you say psychopath because psychopath is just like us so you don't know who is right but you can see which point is problem problem हो रही है या यह disgust कर रहा है या यह contempt कर रहा है आपको उसका emotional palate तो सोझ में आएगा अभी मुझे आपसे यह बात करके तो सोझ में आगया कि आपका कुछ fight से तो लेना दिना है या आपका कुछ interest है आपका fight से क्योंकि दो बार आपने reference दे दिया No, I just Fight Fight Fight Fight Interest Movie War Movie Fight Movie Interest That reference You have to Fight Because Conversation Criminal Me No Interest Not Movie Can MMA Can I do Boxing You Do Boxing So I Listen For Words Which Word Repeat repeat or or uh build car to I I I I I I I I I I I I I I If I don't say I will tell you, I will start with you.
58:28Mirroring. That goes a long way. Anything that is getting repeated, it tells me something. There is something that I need to listen to. When criminals are taken, detect these, how do they behave? They are innocent.
58:49Common pattern across. All right.
59:20I am a team I do. How can I do it? Right? So, it's all in the mind. It's all in the mind. So, which gestures are the which criminals use? When they are guilty. But they are trying to do it. That I am innocent in the face of the police. Or in the face of the police. Okay. Movement is the same. So, everyone knows. Fidgety is stressful. Then, the other. I say that… Is there anything you can say that Oops nigga?
1:00:25اچھا کس کے ساتھ باہر گئے ایک دوست اگر آپ کسی کو wrongly accuse کرتے تو emotion جو آنا چاہیے وہ آنا چاہیے گصہ اگر میں نے کسی کا phone نہیں اٹھایا اور اگر آپ مجھے بولو phone اٹھایا تو مجھے گصہ آنا چاہیے لیکن وہ protest کرنے لگے اور بولے کہ آپ ایسا کیوں کر رہے ہو تو آپ کو interest لینا چاہیے wrongful accusation میں انسان کو زیادہ تر گصہ آتا ہے وہ request نہیں کرے گا لیکن اگلا request کرنے لگے تو پھر ایسی condition میں آپ کو interest لینا چاہیے request کیوں کر رہے ہیں آپ کو تو strongly آنا چاہیے پھر کونسے segment of society سے belong کرتا ہے وہ بھی matter کرتا ہے confidence نہیں ہے self esteem نہیں ہے وہ بھی دیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے کبھی کبھار کوئی لوگ innocent فس جاتے ہیں وہ بھی تو بہت timid ہوجاتے ہیں ہاں وہ بھی کیا ہے please مجھے چھوڑ دو میں نے کچھ کیا ہی نہیں ہے ہاں لیکن پھر بھی suppressed anger آتا ہے جبردستی فسا رہے ہو آپ مجھے میں تو اٹھایا ہی نہیں میرا اس میں کچھ کرنا ہی نہیں ہے تو ایسی condition میں آپ کو دیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے ڈر میں انسان anxious ہوتا ہے اس کا انتبہ یہ نہیں ہے کہ guilty ہے ہے نا آپ کو میں نے آپ کو بولا نا white coat hypertension میں نے آپ کو بتایا ہے کیا وہ نہیں نہیں دبل coat بتایا آپ نے white coat کا مطلب ہے آپ کبھی بھی doctor کے پاس گئے imagine کریے آپ کا x-ray کی ہے انہوں نے ہاتھ کا اور وہ دو منٹ تک دیکھتے رہے تو آپ سوچو کہ کیا دیکھ رہا ہے ایسا ہے نا میرے ہاتھ میں کیا ہوگیا ہے تو بلڈ پریشر وہیں بڑھ جاتا ہے اس کو کہتے ہیں وائٹ کورٹ ہائپرٹینشن یعنی سفید کورٹ دیکھا بلڈ پریشر بڑھ گیا ٹھیک ہے کچھ لوگوں کا ڈاکٹر کے پاس ہی آکے بلڈ پریشر بڑھ جاتا ہے بڑھ جا کے گئے بی پی نورمل ٹھیک ہے similarly جب کسی کو پولیس ٹیشن بلاتے ہیں یا وہ کوٹ چلا گیا تو وہاں جاتے ہیں اس کا وائٹ کوٹ ہائپرٹینشن ہو جاتا ہے اس کا بلڈ پریشر اپنے آپ بڑھنے لگتا ہے اس کا لب یہ تھوڑنا ہے کہ وہ جھوٹ بول رہے ہیں اس کی بس کوئی انزائیٹی ہے یہ آپ کو اس کو benefit of doubt دینا ہوتا ہے یہ میں آپ کو بتانا چلا ہوں وائٹ کوٹ ہائپرٹینشن ہے وائٹ کوٹ بھی ہوتا ہے خاکی بھی ہوتا ہے بلیک کوٹ بھی ہوتا ہے تھاکی بھی ہوتا ہے بلیک کوٹ بھی ہوتا ہے کوئی بھی کوٹ جو ہوتا ہے یونیفرم پارفل یونیفرم دیکھ کے ایک ریسرچ ہوئی تھی جس میں یہ پایا تھا کہ بہت سارے پلین کریش پاور ڈسٹنس انڈیکس کی وجہ سے ہوئے جب پائلٹ اور فرسٹ لائن آفیسر دونوں کے کلچر ڈیفرنٹ ہے یہ لہ پاور ڈسٹنس انڈیکس کا ہے جو فرسٹ لائن آفیسر ہے وہ ہائی پاور دسٹنس کا یعنی وہ جلدی سے پائلٹ کو question نہیں کر سکتا اور اس سے پہلے کی وہ بتایا ہے کہ see this is a mayday or there is ice on the wings تب تک وہ crash ہو چکا ہوتا ہے so Malcolm Gladwell کی research ہے اور اس نے اپنی book outliers میں mention کیا تو culture plays a very important part very interesting آئیس میں کچھ ہوتا ہے جب لوگ جھوٹ بولتے ہیں بہت زیادہ dreaded criminals یا pathological liars جن کی دھوٹ بولنا عادت ہوتی ہے top criminals don't care کیا فرق پڑتا ہے جب وہ پولس سے بات کرتے ہیں تب وہ آنکھوں میں ان کا کچھ چینج ہوتا ہے سی اگر تو ان کو crime میں مزہ آتا ہے تو ان کی آنکھ میں بھی آپ کو ایک glint دیکھ سکتا ہے اور آپ کو بنانے کا جو ان کو thrill ملے گا وہ بھی آپ کو eyes میں دکھائی دے گا but otherwise تو strong eye contact مل جائے گا میں ایک انویسٹیگیشن کر رہا تھا تو وہ بلکل ہی مجھے کھڑا ہو کے دیکھتا رہا تو میں نے کہا یہاں تو کھڑا ہے اور ٹیبل کے اوپوزٹ اس کے انویسٹیگیشن کے لیے بلا پر اس نے بلکل نہیں بریک کیا تو میں نے پوچھا آپ کو گصہ آ رہا ہے کہ اس نے کہا نہیں تو میں نے کہا آپ تو مجھے ہی دیکھتے جا رہے ہو تو ان کی وائف بھی کھڑی تھی ساتھ میں نہیں نہیں سر یہ تو ان کی عادت ہے پر وہ بلکل وہ repeated offender تھا تو بلکل میری آنکھ میں continuously ڈال کے تو continuous eye contact رکھیں گے آنکھ نہیں ہٹائیں گے انہیں پتہ ہی نہیں کب آنکھ ہٹانے ہیں آپ سے وہ دیکھتے رہیں گے اور اگر آپ میں interest لی لے تو گردن بھی تیڑی ہو جائے گی so it's a good sign of interest آپ کسی سے بات کرو اس کا neck tilt ہو جائے تو it's a sign of interest وہ interest لے رہا ہے آپ کے گھر پہ dog ہوگا اگر ہے تو تو اس کا بھی ہوتا ہے نا ایسے دیکھتا ہے کچھ کچھ لائے ہو میرے لیے کچھ ہو اور اگر آپ کے ہاں پہ بچہ بھی ہے تو دو تین مہینے کی بھی نیک تلٹ ہو جائے گی human behavior ہے across species animal behavior animal behavior بھی ہے کبھی ایسا کیا ہے کہ آپ نے کچھ science دیکھی ہے and just by body language آپ نے predict کر لیا کہ یہ انسان dangerous ہو سکتا ہے ہاں dangerous ہو سکتا ہے بلکل دیکھیں ڈیویڈ گیونز کہتا ہے کہ ایم ناٹ شور آپ نے کبھی ایسا دیکھا بہت سارے لوگ بہت ٹائٹوز بناتے ہیں لیکن کچھ کچھ سپیشل جگہ ہوتی ہے اس میں سے مجھے ایک جگہ یاد ہے یہاں پہ ٹائٹو بنانا یہاں پہ ڈرائگن منا لیا یا کچھ نیک پہ وہ زیادہ تر اگر ایسیب ہوتے ہیں یہاں پہ گردن پہ ٹائٹو گردن پہ ٹائٹو
1:05:43to watch out for یہاں پہ کچھ ہو سکتا ہے آپ کو interesting جو لوگ aggressive ہوتے ہیں یا زیادہ مارک پیٹ کرتے ہیں جو ان کی fingers ہوتی ہیں وہ تھوڑی سی تیڑی میڈی ہوتی ہیں آپ کو ان کے hand میں دکھائی دے گا hand صحیح نہیں ہوتا ہے آپ کو hand دیکھ کے پتہ چلے گا کیا کام کرتا ہے تو آپ کو اس سے idea ہوگا کی heart ٹیڑا میڈا ہے تو quite quite کرتا ہوگا اس سے اور میں نے آپ کو بولا جانا سلیف سے پنجاب میں تو تھوڑے بچے یا اور تھوڑے تو یہاں پہ ان کے نیڈلز کے بڑے نشان ہوتے ہیں کیونکہ تو اس سے آپ کو آئیڈیا ہو جاتا ہے کہ یہ بلکل آتا ہے اس کے چوری کرائیم یہ سب اس پھر بیہیوئر میں چلے جاتے ہیں وہ کیا پیڈو فائل کو سپاٹ کر سکتے ہیں تھرہو باڈی لینگوش پر ایسے بیفور تائم سپورٹ کرنا وہ تھوڑا ہارڈ ہے کہ فیملی خود اتنی observant نہیں ہوتی and the simple reason is موبائل فون ہمارا relationship ہی موبائل فون کے ساتھ ہے موبائل فون سے پیڈفی لیا جا رہے لیں نہیں میرا مطلب یہ ہے کہ آپ کسی کے بیہیوئر کو تب observe کروگے جب آپ پینٹلی پریزنٹ ہوگے لیکن ڈیوائیس آپ کو ہمیشہ hooked رکھتا ہے تو آپ فیملی میں spot ہی نہیں کر پاتے ہو کیونکہ آپ always you're busy you're running into something یا phone دیکھ رہا ہے کچھ ٹکی okay I wanna ask you another story please جہاں پہ آپ نے میری team کو بتایا تھا about ایک mother نے daughter کی شادی کرائی yes with a businessman yeah what was that I wanna know about it so this was a difficult case so they said کہ آپ ایک elderly ہیں senior citizen lady ہیں آپ ان سے بات کیجئے اب میرا early days of investigation تھا تو جب میں نے ان سے بات کریا میں سوچا ان کو کیا بولوں اب اتنی age میں ان کو آنٹی بولوں اب آنٹی بولوں گا تو یہ تو relationship establishment لگے گا یہ تو میں بول نہیں سکتا تو مان لی جو ان کا نام ایسی ساویتری تھا اب ساویتری جی بڑی مشکل سے میں نے انہیں بولا اور بہت اچھے سے لمبی لمبی daily wage لے بڑھار تھی تو اپنے آپ تھوڑی empathy آ جاتی ہیں کہ elderly ہیں محنت کرتی ہیں اب میں نے ان سے بات کری کہ آپ کی پوتی گائب ہو گئی ہے ناتی گائب ہو گئی آپ کی بیٹی کی بیٹی تو انہوں نے رونا شروع کر دیا اور دیر دیر کر کے رونے کا volume بڑھ گیا مجھے لگا کہ اکدھم سے رونا سٹارٹ کر دیا انہوں نے تو میں نے کہا ایسا کریا پانی پی لیجے تو وہ رو تی کہیں کہ اس امید میں کہ اب یہ ختم ہو جائے گا تو میں نے کہا آپ رو لیجے پانی پی لیجے ٹیشپے پلے لیجے پھر بات کرتے ہیں تھوڑے دیر میں بات کرتے ہیں بات تو کرتے ہیں اب انہوں نے لگا یہ تو ختم نہیں ہو رہی بات رونے سے تو پھر اب ایسے میں کیسے پتہ جلتا ہے کہ کوئی صحیح میں نہیں رو رہا ہے رو رہا ہے رو رہا ہے ٹھیک ہے اب میں نے پوچھا کہ دو لوگ کہہ رہے ہیں کہ آپ بھی وہیں کھڑی تھی اور پھر وہ کس نے بولا آپ کو یہ تو وہ رونا بند ہو جائے وہ میرے لیچھا سائن ہے کہ یہ اس میں ہے نہیں پر یہ مجھے دیویٹ کر رہی ہیں تو ایسی میں نے کچھ ان سے question پوچھا case یہ تھا کہ ان کی وہ تھی 60's میں ان کی بیٹی تھی 30 میں اور ان کی بیٹی کی بیٹی یعنی granddaughter وہ گائب ہو گئی انہوں نے اپنی بیٹی کی شادی ایک بزنسمن سے کرا دی جو کی خود ففٹیز میں تھا شادی ہوگی بچہ ہو گیا وہ بچہ گائب ہو گیا اب وہ بچہ گائب ہو گیا تو یہ جو ہیلڈرلی لیڈی تھی اس بزنسمن پہ کیسٹ ہو کے منی ایکسٹارٹ کر رہی تھی اس سے انہوں نے بولا کہ اس نے کڈنیپ کر دی ہے بچہ میرا بچہ گائب کر دی ہے خود کہ بچہ کو کیوں کڈنیپ کر دی ہے انہوں نے بولا کہ یہ ہمارے ساتھ نہیں اس کو رکھنا چاہتا ہے یہ الگ اس کب کرنا چاہتے ہیں anyway اس میں interestingly جو ان کی 30 year old بیٹی تھی جیسے ایسے میں نے اس کے ساتھ آگے سیشن اور انٹریکشن کیا اس کی mental sanity بہت ہی کم ہو گئی میں جب اس سے کچھ بات کروں تو وہ مجھ سے بولے کہ سر سب کے اپنے ریزن ہوتے ہیں آپ کو زیادہ پوچھنا تھا ممی سے پوچھو تو میں نے کہا آپ بھی کچھ بتاؤ نہیں سر سب کے اپنے ریزن ہوتے یہ دو دو گھنٹے اس نے اسے یہی بولا اپنے ریزن ہوتے تو میں نے پھر ہی وہ روک دی تو میں نے کہا نہیں اور ممی سے بات کروں تو ممی وہ رونا شروع کر دے بہت دیر تک بات کرتے کرتے ایک پوائنٹ آیا جب انہوں نے بولا کہ یہ تو میں نے اس سے کروایا تھا انہوں نے بول دیا اس بیچ میں پھر کچھ رک گئے پھر ان کو ریلائز ہوا کہ انہوں نے کیا بول دیا تو وہ رک گئی بیٹی تو سینٹی میں نہیں تھی انہوں نے کچھ بیٹی کو سچ میں کر دیا تھا بیٹی سینٹی میں نہیں تھی آنٹی نے بول دیا کہ میں نے اس سے کروایا تھا تو میں نے کہا کس سے کروایا تھا تو پھر وہ quiet ہوگی انہوں نے کہا کیا بولا میں نے کہا یہ میں کوئی تی دیر ہوگی بیٹھے بیٹھے مجھے کیا پتا میں تو ایسا کچھ کہا نہیں تو پھر وہ اس میں retreat کر گئی تھی لیکن میں نے بالکل نہیں سوچا تھا کہ کتنا elderly senior citizen ایسی planning کر کے کیا تھا case کیا ہوا کے end میں ان میں یہی تھا کہ انہوں نے اپنی خود کی گرانڈ آٹر کو کہیں پہ مسنگ کروا دی تھی خود ہی انہوں نے خود ہی کڈناپ کروا دیا
1:11:14وہاں بزنسمن سے پیسے ایک سٹارٹ کر دی اسی پہ کیس لگا کے اور انہیں پتا تھا کہ وہ سینئر سیٹیزن ہے ایلڈرلی بھی ہیں تو آپ زیادہ کچھ کہہ ہی نہیں سکتے ایمپتھی بھی ہے اور زیادہ کچھ بولو گے تو وہ پھر وہ رونے لگتی نہیں بیٹی کے ساتھ کیا ہوا بیٹی کے ساتھ یہ تھا کہ بیٹی کہتی ہے میرے پاس بچہ تھا پہلے لیکن اب بچہ کہاں گیا وہ مجھے نہیں پتا وہ ممی سے پوچھو ممی کہتی ہے کہ اس پورے شادی کی وجہ سے اس کا دماغ خراب ہو گیا ہے اس لئے اب اس کو کچھ پتا نہیں تو اب پتا کس کو ہے ممی کو پتا ہے یا پھر اس بزنسمن کو پتا ہے وہ بزنسمن کہہ رہا ہے کہ انہوں نہیں کر آیا ہے وہ ان سے پیسے لے چکے کوٹ میں کیس چل رہا ہے سو سپیکنگ آف وہ بہت ہارٹ تھا کیونکہ وہ ایڈڈرلی تھی اور بات بات پہ روتی تھی اور question پوچھنے پہ وہ alert ہو جاتی تھی لیکن وہ answer نہیں دیتی تھی تو میں نے رونے میں realize کیا جب کوئی سامنے سے روتا ہے اور question پوچھنے پہ اس کا رونا بند ہو جائے اور آپ کو یہاں تک نہ پہنچے تو آپ کے لئے ایک اچھا red flag ہے اگر جنون رونا ہے کئی بار سٹرانگ چل رہا ہے تو یہ نوز کے تھوڑھ ٹرائبل کرتا ہے یہاں سے نیزل فلیم آنے لگے گا ٹیرز کے تھوڑھ اور زیادہ سٹرانگ چل رہا ہے تو سامنے والا اگر گرنے کی کگار پر تو ٹیبل پکڑ لے گا چیئر پکڑ لے گا یہ ایک اور ڈگری آف رونا ہے کئی بار انسان نہیں روتا ہے صرف یہ جو چن ہے اس کو چن بہت سے منٹیلس مسل کہتا ہے یہ ہلنے لگتی ہے ایسے کر کے مطبع رونے والے ہیں پر روتے نہیں ہیں تو وہ بھی ایک اچھا emotion دکھائی دیتا ہے یہ میں آپ کو degrees of crying جھوٹا crying کون سا ہوتا ہے جھوٹا crying یہی ہے کہ اگدم سے میرے اگلے question پوچھنے پر اپنا کان آگے کر دیا اگدم سے وہ واپس آگے میرے question پوچھتے نہیں سر میں تو نہیں تھا ایک اور چیز سرک ورڈ پر بتانا چاہتا ہوں آپ ماننی جائے آپ ہی انویسٹیگیشن کر رہے ہیں آپ نے بہت سارے کوئشن پوچھے وہ کہے نئی راج آپ کیا بول رہے ہو نئی ایسا ہوئی نہیں سکتا پھر آپ نے کہا لیکن مرڈر میں تو سی سی ٹی وی میں آپ دیکھ رہے ہو آپ کیا بات کر رہے ہو سر میں تو اس میں دیکھ ہی نہیں تھا اب انہوں نے بولا آپ کو سر اس سے پہلے نہیں بولا سر اس کا مطلب ہے سپائیک ان پولائٹنس سپائیک ان پولائٹنس کا مطلب یہ ہے کہ اب آپ مجھے جانے دو
1:13:41لیکن اب آپ نے مجھے ہارٹ پوچھ لیا یا تو میں سر بول دوں گا یا میم بول دوں گا اس میں وہ چاہتے ہیں پلیز تھوڑا لینینٹ راؤ میرے پر آپ کو سننے کی ضرورت ہے کہ کب پولائٹ ہوکا ایک دم سے مردال میں کچھ کال ہے یو ٹرین پولیٹیشنز آرہی نوٹ پولیٹیشنز لائن فورسمنٹ زیادہ تر لائن فورسمنٹ نوٹ پولیٹیشنز کورپرٹ کورپرٹ میں law enforcement میں زیادہ تر investigated have you seen some politicians observe کیا ہے کہ politicians کیسے body language use کرتے ہیں to dominate and to succeed sure one of my favorites is تو Barack Obama love him Barack Obama I think جو ان میں charisma ہے وہ match نہیں ہو سکتا if you look at him ایک ویڈیو ہے میں نے شیئر بھی کیا ٹیم کے ساتھ تو آپ دیکھیں گا کہ جب وہ واک کرتے ہیں تو واک بہت ریلیکسٹ ہے اور ان کا جو گیٹ ہے ان کے پیروں کے بیچ میں ڈسٹنس دیکھیں وہ جو سٹرائٹ کرتے ہیں اور ساتھ کے ساتھ ایک بار کیمرہ کو دیکھتے ہیں اور پھر جو ان کے اندر ایمپیتھی ہے وہ جو سلوٹ کرنا بھول جاتے ہیں ان ریسپونس پھر وہ فلائٹ سے اتر کے واپس ہینڈ شیک کرتے ہیں اس کے ساتھ تو وہ انمیچڈ ہے
1:15:07انہوں نے لوگوں کو شک نہ ہو وہ وہیں پارٹی میں بیٹھے رہے اور وہیں پہ کوئی کومیڈین اسامہ بن لازن پہ جوک کر رہا تھا اور وہ بول رہا تھا کہ اسامہ بن لازن کیسے ملے گا آپ کو امریکہ کو وہ ایسے ملے گا شام کو ٹی وی پر اس کا شو دیکھ لو وہ چار سے پانچ روز آتا ہے وہیں ملے گا آپ کو اسامہ اور براک ابامہ حسرہ ہوتا ہے وہاں بیٹھ کے کہ اس کو پتہ نہیں ہے کہ آج ہی مروا رہا ہوں میں اس کو اتنا masterpiece تھا براک Obama اسی time he killed it you get to see tomorrow what I'll do so وہ بھی clip ہے without actually giving it away without giving it away nice وہ master class ہے body language that you have to agree like every time the way he walks the way he talks the way he deflects the answers difficult situation nice situations جہاں پہ اس کو alpha ہو na ہے والفہ جہاں پہ لوگ کو ساتھ ملا ہے ساتھ میں humility جہاں پہ اس کو feminine ہونا ہے ومنز آدھا سایٹ دینا ہے مشیل کی بات کر نہیں like it just he's very charming I think it is and I don't think that's rehearsed I think over the years وہ ان کی پرسنیلیٹی میں ہے اب Vladimir Putin کو آپ دیکھے اگر آپ notice کریں گے when he walks تو ان کا صرف ایک ہی hand move ہوتا ہے آئی تینگ وہ رائٹ موف کرتے ہیں لیفت وہ دبا کے رکھتے ہیں کیوں کیونکہ اریجنلی تو وہ KGB کے سپائے تھے تو ادھر صرف ویپن ہی فیل کرتے ہیں وہ ٹریننگ کا پارٹ ہے ادھر ویپن اور صرف اسی ہینڈ میں سوئنگ چلتا ہے کیونکہ ویپن سے ہاتھ نہیں جانا چاہیے چاہے وہ کسی بھی پریزیڈنٹ کے ساتھ ہو ایک ہاتھ آپ کسی کے ساتھ دیکھ لیجئے چاہے وہ چائنا کے ساتھ ایک ہی ہی موو ہوگا کیونکہ دوسرا ویپن پہ ہے تو ان کی ٹریننگ کا پارٹ ہے وہ ایک فیک ہنڈ بھی تو چلتا ہے کہ باہر فیک ہنڈ دکھ رہا ہے کیونکہ ایک کوٹ کے اندر ہنڈ ہوتا ہے on the weapon itself تو ہی اس ڈیویل زون کتنے اسیسی نیشن اٹیمٹ وہ بچ چکے ہیں تو ان کا تو ریکارڈ ہے کون بلادھر مر پوتین بلادھر مر پوتین اور
1:17:18اسیسی نیشن سے تو اپنے current جو US کے فیصلے اندر وہی اٹھ چکے ہیں اب وہ کہتے ہیں کہ پتا نہیں کتنا ریل ہے کیونکہ بہت close boundary سے جو کی secured ہونا چاہیے تھا اس میں سے I find him a very interesting personality honestly very I don't know کیا بولد اپینین ہے comment but I like what I really like is very few people are this unapologetic جب آپ long term تک اسے رہتے ہو sometimes you start attracting people to earth yeah so that's what i feel is one of the biggest reasons why he's winning because regardless of all the controversies and all the things جو وہ کرتے ہیں i think the way he he's unapologetic about جو وہ بولتے ہیں جو وہ کرتے ہیں جو وہ معنتے ہیں there is some lesson to be learned absolutely for the good for the bad I think world decisions میں نہیں سمجھتا اتنے پر purely from a class of personality aura I think he does a good job I think he's understood the pulse of it اور 24-25 کے جب وہ تھے اس لئے وہ home alone movies میں بھی آتے تھے تو اگر آپ پرانا انٹیو دیکھو گے 24-25 years کی age میں وہ کہہ رہے ہیں جب میں 70 کا ہو جاؤں گا اور مجھے نہیں لگتا کہ میں اتنا کر پاؤں گا تب میں امریکن پریزیدن بن جاؤں گا تب تک میں بزنس کرتا ہوں تو آئے تھوڑت کی 50 years ahead وہ بول رہے گی جب بیکار ہوگا تب میں پریزیدن بن جاؤں گا تو that confidence that he has and unapologetic as you say he doesn't really care he doesn't really care ki protest کر رہے ہو media gains جاری ہے he'll do whatever openly in his early early years only he talked about this thing that کی دریم پر تیکس نہیں لگتا if you're dreaming you dream so big that it should be like your dream اور اس کے بار بات کرتے ہیں بہت بار اور بچپن میں when he was early تب وہ ایسی باتیں گرتے تھے and then you would just see him and تب سے لگے آج تک پرسنالیٹی میں دو چیزیں آپ کو دیکھے گی دیکھے گی constant کچھ چینج نہیں ہوا first is that utter self-belief and confidence میں وہ جب ڈیٹ میں تب بھی میں پھوننے کے لیے ویدہ ہوں جب divorce ہوا تب بھی فوڑنے کے لئے پیدا ہوں جب میں نے کچھ اچیف کیا تب بھی فوڑا تب میں نے پیسیدنٹ تب بھی فوڑا یا میں ہاریا تب بھی فوڑا like that's just you know he said that's one the confidence and the self belief چو ہے and second is unapologetic behavior for my actions and he gets accepted for that because I think society میں جب بھی آپ constant رہتے ہو بھلے for the good or the bad لوگ آپ کو accept کرنے لگ جاتے ہیں people hate جو change ہوتے ہیں correct لوگ کو mismatch نہیں بسن لوگ کو بسن آپ ویلن ویلن رو آپ بڑے ویلن بنو ہم آپ کو ویلن کی وجہ سے آپ کو چاہیں گے نہیں چاہیں گے that's a separate thing right اب ہی رو اب ہی رو رو اب یہ دوگلے بنے مت کرو کہیں آپ کچھ بلٹ جا تو کہیں آپ کچھ بڑٹ تو people love who shows consistency that's first and ایک theory about sorry okay you would know about it around the world ki most powerful people in the world top 1 % 0.1 % ان کو آپ پبلکلی کبھی sorry بولتے بھی نہیں دیکھو گے اگر ان کی image یا position power سے better ہوتی ہے تو ان کو آپ کبھی بھی power ملو ان کو sorry بولتے بھی نہیں دیکھو گے never never وہ غلط action لیں گے انہیں پتا ہے انہوں نے غلط کر دیا تو بھی وہ sorry نہیں بولتے because society جتنا بھی بولے کی empathy etc etc etc people don't respect people who are sorry and apologetic about them that's right so اب دیکھرنا top 1 % they'll do کبھی ان کو غلط ہوگا تو deflect کر کے لکھ دیں گے وہ ایسے لکھ دیں گے maybe I should have dealt it in a better way great never I apologize and I'm sorry for my actions they don't do that they won't that's right businessmen from the top of the top entrepreneur I don't want to name because case people will do but top of the top entrepreneurs top prime ministers presidents around the world you see them they don't apologize they don't it's not allowed what should we do common people what should we do in our body language میں ایسا کیا change کرنا چاہیے to look powerful instantly okay sure see crime patrol تو سب نہیں دیکھا ہوگا and اس میں وہ anups ہونی آتے ہیں and وہ بتاتے ہیں کی کیسے crime ہوا اور پھر وہ لڑکی کا phone trace کیا گیا اور ایسے so what you need to do is this is steeple اس کو steeple کہتے ہیں یہ power pose ہے اس کو اگر آپ ایسے کرتے ہیں news anchors بھی بہت سارے ایسی کر کے بات کرتے ہیں 2 minutes میں آپ کا testosterone levels اوپر چلے جاتے ہیں اور cortisol levels down آ جاتے ہیں in 2 minutes Really?
1:22:42in 2 minutes آپ ڈانلڈ ٹرمپ کو بھی دیکھیں گے so اس میں بھی variation ہوتا ہے ایسے ایسے and ایسے ایسے میں تو I'll shoot down your opinion آپ جو بولو گے shootی ہوگا وہ ٹھیک ہے اس میں okay fine I'm listening to you but اس میں I'm willing to engage also اگر یہاں سے یہاں آ جائے تو I'm willing to engage اس کو rotating سٹیپل کہتے ہیں اوکے روتیٹنگ سٹیپل تو یہ تو ایک دم پاور پوز ہے آپ کا ڈسٹنس اگر میں بیٹھا ہوں تو دسٹنس بیٹوین مائی فیٹ that is territorial رائٹ تو اس سے پتہ چلتا ہے کہ میں سپیس کتے لے رہا ہوں میں کتنا کونفیڈنٹ فیل کرتا ہوں زیادہ چن آپ ہوئا تو تو ایروگنس ہے and ready for fight وہ اچھا نہیں ہے لیکن اگر چن زیادہ ڈاؤن ہوتا ہے that is a confession mode جگر آپ کی سی سے investigation کر رہے ہو تو اس کا chin زیادہ down ہو جا تو پھر آپ کو چپ ہو جانا چھے because وہ کچھ بولے گا تو be ready so but for confidence you can do steeple right people do this also but your hands on the table is also good enough when you walk in a party so for that confidence you can keep your open hands sometimes people touch also that is also confidence کیونکہ ہم نہیں کریں گے usually I met someone recently yesterday for the first time and he started doing this hey buddy how are you so I am thinking کہ ایک تو friendly بھی boulder اور میں کو Tom Cruise کی رہا touch بھی کر رہے ہیں because Tom Cruise تو ایسی کرتے ہیں جا جا کے انکرز کو physical expansion کہتے ہیں اس کو so he was doing that that comes across as confidence he has the confidence to touch me and they smile more and open gestures that talks of confidence اور فیٹ کے بیچ میں distance is important what mistakes do we do جب ہم پارٹی میں جاتے ہیں یا پبلک سیٹک میں جاتے ہیں کیا mistakes کرتے ہیں ہم جو جس کی ویسے لوگ ہمیں dislike کرتے ہیں okay see first of all that also matters کہ ان کا آپ میں انٹرسٹ ہے کی نہیں ہے یہ بھی ایک بات ہے لیکن آپ کمپلیٹ سٹرینجر ہیں right and they are talking and آپ سائیڈ میں آنگل دھوکے کھڑے ہو جاتے ہیں some people just آپ کو پرسیف کر لیتے ہیں کہ یہ ایرونٹ ہے منگل نہیں ہونا چاہتا ہے ایسا بھی ہوتا ہے social نہیں ہے that's not the case اور کئی بار پبلک میں بھی بیٹھ کے ایک دنوں کوائیٹ ہو جاتے ہیں everybody is talking but you can't right آپ کو لگتا ہے سب بولتو رہے ہیں میں کیا بولوں right so in that case it is good to add a line or two common ground ڈھوننا بہت important ہے right اگر آپ کو پسند ہے کچھ اور میں اسی پہ بات کرنے لگوں تو automatically conversation strike ہو جاتی you need to find the common ground people birds of feather flock together common میں نے ڈیل کارنی جی کی بات کری آپ نے بات کری وہیں سے شروع ہو گئی right تو وہ mistake اگر کوئی کچھ اور بات کر رہے ہیں اور اگر آپ off topic کچھ اور شروع کر دو conversation will die you need to find conversation right and you need to listen میں کسی بڑے officer سے ملا تھا تو انہوں نے کہا میں بیٹھا تھا تو میں counselor psychologist میں believe نہیں کرتا یہ تو ہم بھی کام کر لیں گے یہ کونسی بڑی بات ہے میں ان کو بیٹھا سن رہا تھا پھر میں نے ان کی باتوں میں سنا کہ جو ان کا بیٹا تھا وہ کسی بڑے government exams کی تیاری کر رہا تھا تو میں نے کہا سر کونسے exam کی دیاری کر رہا ہے تو اس نے کہا اس سے بل کی کرے گا تو میں نے کہا کیا کیا دہ ہندو کا editorial پڑھتا ہے یہی پڑھتا ہے تو میں نے کہا کیوں آپ کوچنگ دیتے ہیں کیا اس کی تو میں نے کہا نہیں میرا تو interest ہے تو آپ guide کر سکتے ہیں میں نے کہا بالکل کر سکتا ہوں ایسا کریے آپ میرا personal number لیجے میرے بیٹے سے بات کراؤں گا اور پھر اس کو آپ guide کرنا میں نے صرف یہ سنا کہ ان کو کیا problem ہے انہوں تو مجھے بولی دیا تھا کہ کاؤنسلر سے مجھے پرابلم ہے پر انہوں نے یہ بولا کہ میرے بیٹے کو گیا پرابلم ہے میں نے وہ سن لیا پین پوائنٹ you have to listen to the other person's پین پوائنٹ آپ نے ایک بار پین پوائنٹ touch کر لیا وہ آپ کی طرف آئے گئے ہی آئے گا پین پوائنٹ attract کرتا ہے لوگوں کو true I'm sure آپ کے پاس بھی کوئی ایسا ریفرنس ہوگا آپ نے سامنے والے کا وہ پین پوائنٹ سمجھ لیا اس کو خلقا سا آپ ٹویک کرو وہ ضرور آئے گا آپ کے پاس پتہ نہیں میں کانشیسلی تو نہیں کرتا یہ انکانشیسلی اگر ہو جاتا ہے سب کانشیسلی ہو جاتا ہے تو I have no idea I'm just curious to know more میرے ہاتھ میں یہ چاہے ہے آپ فرس ٹائیم مل رہے ہو تو the better thing to offer is a hot drink only not a cold drink so what happens جب آپ warm drink offer کرتے کسی کو تو وہ جو میسج ہے وہ آپ کی نرز میں ٹرائیول کرتا ہے اور آپ پوچھو گے بعد میں کی what did you think about the other person مجھ سے کوئی اور oh he was a nice he was a warm person that I met اور میں آپ کو cold offer کرتا ہوں میں آپ کی ویوز کو نرز کو شاک تھیرپی دیتا ہوں کھنڈا کر دیتا ہوں ایک تم تو یہ ایکسپیرمنٹ ہوا تھا تو اس میں you don't know کہ if you'll say very nicely about the other person for hot drink دینے پر of course بھارگرمی نہیں ہے اچھا weather ہے temperature ہے اس condition میں the person speaks favorably of the other person یہ سب conditioning ہے priming ہے یہ بہر کے جا کے لوگ کیوں candlelight dinner کرتے ہیں کیونکہ اس میں آئی زیادہ dilate ہوتی ہے in comparison to زیادہ light میں آپ وہ کر ساتے ہو سامنے والے کو اور influence کرنا ہے تو اپنی chair کی height نیچے کر دو the other person would like to see and feel powerful تو automatically feel کرے گا powerful اپنی کم اس کی زیادہ nice یہ question پوچھنا تھا last tell me two or three things how can I get better بتا دی آپ نے تو last question پوچھتا ہوں now based on everything today جو آج آپ نے دیکھا مجھے بتاؤ میرے بارے میں analyze کرو تھوڑا and بتاؤ میں کیا better کر سکتا ہوں okay see یہاں overall آپ نے کیا analyze کیا overall analyze تو مجھے لگا کہ you're a good listener آپ اچھے سے سنتے ہو and آپ کا وہ tenant یا آپ کی property curiosity جو شاید آپ بچپن سے اس کو stroke کر رہے ہوگے تو that got you here ہے نا and آپ کے face پہ زیادہ expression نہیں آتے which is good کیونکہ زیادہ animated ہونے سے بھی تھوڑا وہ off ہو جاتا ہے right analyze میں تو میں نے یہ دیکھا کہ آپ دھیان سے سنتے ہو جو آپ کا hook ہے question کا وہ چھوڑتے نہیں ہو وہ رہتا ہے پھر سنوگے سنوگے پھر وہیں واپس آ جاؤگے اور جب آپ کو لگے گا کہ ہاں اس بات میں کوئی validation ہے تو smile کے ساتھ آپ confirm بھی کر دیتے ہو جیسے ابھی آپ نے confirm کیا تھا ایک دو بار پہلے بھی آپ نے confirm کیا تھا اور تھوڑا سا chair میں adjustment کرتے ہو جب ہلکا سا discomfort فورٹ یا کچھ لگتا تو تھوڑا سا وہ پوائنٹ میں آپ کا بھی کسی ویڈیو میں جا کے دیکھنا otherwise I think you have signs of a good host or a listener کیونکہ steady eye contact ہے and hand movement بھی بہت کم ہے اور you can give the other person chance to speak یہ والا تو دکھتا ہے اسے پارشل آم ریپ کہتے ہیں یہ والا دکھتا ہے کئی بار آپ ریکال کرنے کے لئے طورج لیفٹیر جاتے ہو دا آئی مومنٹ اس طورج لیفٹیر آہ پٹی اس تو صرف میں آپ کو ابزرویشن بتا رہا ہوں آہ بیٹر کیا کر سکتا ہوں تیل می ون تینگ وات کین ایڈو بیٹر تھوڑا سا اور سمائل کر سکتے ہیں تھوڑا سا اور سمائل کر سکتے ہیں آہ تھوڑا سا نیک بھی تلٹ ہو سکتا ہے آہ تھوڑا سا نیک تلٹ ہو سکتا ہے وہ اچھا sign ہوتا ہے neck tilt بھی evolutionary ہے کیونکہ when you feel that the other person is not a threat and I can invite the other person تو یہ neck exposure ہو جاتا ہے کیونکہ یہی پہ predator attack کرتا ہے لیکن اگر آپ نے اس کو open کر دیا تو you're inviting and it's a sign of interest got it otherwise تو تھوڑا اور interesting کرنا ہے تو sometimes you can lean and also so that will increase the intensity of it when you lean in and you feel oh okay بتاو بتاو got it perfect thank you so much sir thank you so much for coming here and sharing everything that we asked you and بہت سارے نائنے چیزیں سکھانے کو plus I just loved کیونی بہت سارے باتیں ہیں جو ایسے لوگوں آپ کو اٹھ کر رہے تھے who I have massive interest کیونکہ neuroscience اور psychology میرا بہت انٹریسٹ ہے میں بہت زیادہ پڑھتا ہوں پلس sociology a little bit so that's my basic interest and آپ جو باتیں بتا رہے تھے بہت ساری باتیں نیو تھی but لوگوں کے جو نام تھے those names are similar کیونکہ almost یہی لوگوں نے بہت سارے چیزیں کرے ہیں so I enjoyed thoroughly I hope this is a starting of our series of episodes to come in the future sure i totally enjoyed see جیسے میں corporate coaching بھی جیسے کرتا ہوں تو you know person is a young leader تو پھر وہاں جا کے they don't know کہ سامنے والے سے کیسے negotiate کرتے ہیں you know and they said کہ یہ deal ہو جائے گی the person سے yeah ڈھیک ہے i'll get back to you so پڑھے نہیں read somebody else so مجھے یہ CBI کے forensic lab کے director نے بتا ہے تھا first you read yourself first you read yourself and you should know what signal are you sending to the other person and that will determine whether they want to come close to you or not you decide the boundary your body should give that kind of signal my daughter should know ki kab wo mere paas a sakti or kam meri aai dekhe wo doori rehgi mucze so you know like that we should be careful of that میں نے بہت دیکھا آپ کا common interest میں نے کہا رہا میں آپ کا podcast دیکھتا ہوں تو میں interest سے guest کے لئے کم آپ کے لئے زیادہ دیکھتا ہوں کہ آپ کیا آپ پسند کر رہے ہیں کہاں پہ آپ کی leaning ہے میں نے karan والے میں بہت کچھ آپ کو سنا تھا اور جہاں پہ آپ کا disagreement ہو رہا تھا وہ بھی میں دیکھ رہا تھا تو میں دیکھ رہا تھا کہ آپ کا research کی طرف interest ہے آپ experiment کی طرف ہے آپ کا science کی طرف interest ہے جو کی آپ کے خود کے homework کے بارے میں بتا رہا ہے and not out of compulsion but out of interest وہ مجھے بہت اچھا لگا میں نے کہا ٹھیک ہے میں تو experiments ہوتا ہی سکتا lovely thank you so much thank you so جب سے 16-17 سے I just learn people's name especially strangers جن سے ابھی آپ میں لے ہو یا somebody who's serving you maybe restaurant میں airport پہ کافی کے ٹائم پہ it's it's one of the most beautiful feelings اب instant connection بنا لیتے ہو کس سے بھی اگر آپ ان کا نام یاد رکھتے ہو اب یہی ممبئی میں بینڈ سٹینڈ پہ I think ٹوٹوز ہے شاید ٹوٹوز ہے کی ٹیٹوز ہے پتہ ہے ایک club میں I don't remember سو وہاں پہ ایک سر ہے he's now 65-70 پر جتنے لوگ اس باہر میں گئے ان کو سب کا نام یاد ہے آپ کے شلڈر پر tap کریں گے I'm seeing you for the first time are you coming for the first time yes your name Gaurav why are you alone Gaurav on such a wonderful evening so اب وہ ایک تو انہوں نے touch کر دیا وہ oxytocin ہو گیا دوسرا آپ کا نام لے لیا تیسرا آپ کو table دلا دی you'll never forget him and he doesn't forget you thank you so much یہ episode end تک دیکھنے 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(00:00) – Introduction
(02:23) – The story of Ted Bundy
(05:52) – Common traits of serial killers
(08:50) – What turns someone into a serial killer
(15:29) – What wrist cutting signifies
(17:15) – The power of pronouns
(21:38) – A serial killer’s first crime
(24:58) – The impact of violent games
(28:55) – Violent fantasies
(32:03) – The most difficult case to decode
(39:57) – The process of detecting a lie
(45:13) – How to know if someone is lying to you
(50:09) – Good liar vs. bad liar
(56:00) – Signs a criminal is hiding a crime
(59:31) – Gestures criminals use to appear innocent
(1:05:00) – The body language of a dangerous person
(1:07:11) – Money extortion through kidnapping
(1:13:57) – The body language of politicians
(1:17:30) – Donald Trump’s personality
(1:20:38) – The Theory of Sorry
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(1:24:35) – Mistakes that make people dislike you
(1:28:43) – Analyzing Raj’s body language
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In today’s episode, we have Gaurav Gill, consultant psychologist and body language expert with Manobal Foundation, Delhi. With his expertise in reading human behaviour, he explains how much our gestures, expressions, and even the smallest body cues reveal about us. From spotting hidden emotions to decoding lies, his work bridges psychology and crime investigation in fascinating ways.
In the last segment, he shares the step-by-step process of detecting lies in high-stakes situations, the most difficult cases he’s had to decode, and what serial killers actually feel after their first crime. Gaurav explains the psychology of deception, the science behind spotting danger, and the subtle signals most people miss.
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