World Junior Champion at 18: Mindset, Training & Sacrifice | Anahat Singh | FO548 Raj Shamani

13 Aug 2026 · 1 h 28 min · 39 chapters

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In short

India’s Anahat Singh, 18, discusses winning the World Junior Squash Championship, her mindset and training approach, and how she handles injuries, losses, and pressure—especially in team events. She also shares routines, superstitions, and personal sacrifices (including missing graduation).

Guest backgrounds

Anahat Singh is an Indian squash player who became the first Indian to win the World Junior Squash Championships at age 18. The episode is hosted by Raj Shamani (FO548).

Key claims

Second place is “the worst” for her; she’s “terrible” at losing and takes a long time to recover emotionally. She believes mentality is her edge: many players are physically better, but fewer have the same mental strength. She says she can play “without pressure” when she’s mentally free, and that pressure can make her “go completely flat.” She frames injuries as something she pushes through only when she feels she can “walk out any minute.”

Notable examples

At Bega, she injured her ankle in semifinals, was advised not to play, but still retired from the final. She describes a past taekwondo injury that led to quitting and regret over a silver medal. She recounts missing graduation while competing in Egypt against the world number one, and her competitive “black and white” outfit superstition plus a nightly routine of six Dairy Milk pieces.

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The Journey and Mindset Behind Squash

0:36 to 2:18

Anahat discusses her journey, injuries, and the mentality required in sports.

“In semifinals, you injured your ankle and then you were advised not to play.”

Early Days and Competitive Spirit

3:13 to 5:26

Anahat shares her early experiences in squash and her competitive nature.

“I mean, I always knew that I wanted to do something with sports, whether it was squash, badminton, any other sport.”

Sports as Identity and Escape

5:26 to 7:40

Anahat reflects on how sports serve as both an identity and an escape for her.

Traveling for Tournaments

7:40 to 9:26

Anahat recounts her travels for squash tournaments, including a memorable trip to Australia.

Risking Injury for Competition

9:26 to 14:00

Anahat discusses the tough decision to compete despite injury and the aftermath of that choice.

“I mean, I spoke to the doctors at home and they were like, you're going to aggravate the injury even further if you go into court.”

Overcoming Injury: A Personal Story

14:00 to 16:45

Anahat shares a painful taekwondo experience that haunts him to this day.

Team Dynamics: Playing for More than Yourself

16:45 to 19:36

Anahat discusses the importance of team spirit and the pressure of representing others.

“So he would like play really hard and then if it starts pain like in the middle of the game I think his legs somewhere something some disease his foot.”

Mental Strength: The Key to Performance

19:36 to 22:31

Anahat explains how his mental approach allows him to perform without pressure.

“So I couldn't have just let that go for no reason.”

Guilty Pleasures: Balancing Life and Training

22:31 to 24:16

Anahat reveals his guilty pleasures, including late-night snacking and social media.

“About anything just not squash well like what do you what keeps you going?”

Superstitions and Style: The Role of Appearance in Performance

24:16 to 28:00

Anahat discusses how superstitions about clothing impact his game and personal style.

“And people used to come and ask me like, Anath, can we please have some?”
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The Superstition of Winning

28:00 to 29:00

Explore the significance of color and superstitions in sports performance.

“But hopefully my color scheme expands a little bit in the next few years and not too boring and just black and white everywhere.”

Finding Focus Amidst Rituals

29:00 to 30:59

Discuss the balance between superstitions and actual gameplay focus.

“Wow, do you know that almost every sports person has something like this?”

Coping with Losses

30:59 to 34:30

Understand the emotional impact of losing and how to cope effectively.

“It's actually because of what I've produced on the court but I sometimes blame it on the superstition even though it's my fault.”

Balancing School and Squash

34:30 to 37:18

Learn how to balance sports with academic responsibilities and aspirations.

“So I think that's just something that even if I'm playing a practice game and I lose, I hate losing like every single point.”

Family Dynamics in Sports

37:18 to 42:00

Examine the relationships and conflicts between athletes and their families.

“And then, you know, the first couple of hours and the first half of the day about the rest of the thing.”

The Struggle of Apologizing

42:00 to 43:20

Anahat shares her challenges with expressing apologies and emotions.

“I tried for a few days and then I went back to normal and then I tried for a few days.”

Mental Strength and Self-Comparison

43:20 to 45:46

Discussion on mental strength and how Anahat compares herself to others.

“I mean sometimes I'd wish I'd have their lives.”

The Cost of Commitment: Missing Graduation

45:46 to 47:34

Anahat talks about missing her graduation for a tournament and its emotional impact.

Playing Against the World Number One

47:34 to 48:51

Anahat recounts her experience playing against the world number one and what she learned.

“I think it is a good thing but it's also not.”

Finding Balance in Playing Style

48:51 to 51:36

Anahat discusses the balance between her aggressive style and traditional techniques.

Understanding Bad Days

51:36 to 53:19

Exploration of what constitutes a 'bad day' in sports and its effects on performance.

Lessons from Past Mistakes

53:19 to 55:55

Anahat reflects on past losses and the lessons learned about preparation and practice.

“Or you don't think that you're just having fun?”

The Power of Practice and Conversations

56:00 to 56:40

Learn how a pivotal conversation led to significant breakthroughs in mindset.

Believing in Oneself

56:40 to 57:40

Explore the moment of self-belief and its impact on performance.

“When did you start fully believing in yourself that I've got it in me?”

Overcoming Loneliness and Fear

57:40 to 59:20

Understand the challenges of loneliness and overcoming fear in high-pressure situations.

“I was used to staying with my parents even in Delhi.”

Experiencing the Center Court

59:20 to 1:00:40

Discover the difference between playing on center court and side courts.

“So I think and I mean the crowd Give me a visual.”

First Match Nerves and Insights

1:00:40 to 1:02:00

Hear about the nerves and realizations during the first competitive match experience.

“The atmosphere is very different because they put it in a large space.”

Parental Influence and Expectations

1:02:00 to 1:04:40

Explore the role of parental support and expectations in an athlete's journey.

Pre-Match Rituals and Mental Preparation

1:04:40 to 1:06:40

Learn about the mental preparation and rituals before entering a match.

The Pain of Finishing Second

1:06:40 to 1:08:40

Discuss the emotional impact of finishing second in competitions.

Egyptian Dominance in Squash

1:08:40 to 1:10:04

Understand the cultural reasons behind Egypt's dominance in squash.

“But Egyptians are like just there from 1930s till now they're dominating the game.”

The Role of Culture in Squash

1:10:04 to 1:12:20

Learn how culture and infrastructure influence squash talent in Egypt vs India.

Anahat's Training Regimen

1:12:20 to 1:14:44

Discover the training schedule and daily routines of a world-class squash player.

“I have a one-on-one session with my coach in the morning for about one, one and a half hours.”

Nutrition and Cheat Meals

1:14:44 to 1:16:54

Explore how Anahat balances healthy eating with enjoying junk food as an athlete.

“So if I'm in Prague, usually it ends quite early.”

Mental Focus During Matches

1:16:54 to 1:20:22

Understand the psychological strategies Anahat employs during critical match points.

“show all right so dad being dad spoils you a little and we just like if he feels bad sometimes and i'm like can you just let me have a pizza i've had a really hard day and i'm really hungry he'll fall for it.”

Winning vs Losing Mindset

1:20:22 to 1:23:54

Discuss the emotions around winning and losing in competitive sports.

Mindset of Champions: Djokovic vs. Federer

1:24:01 to 1:25:34

Learn about the contrasting mindsets of Djokovic and Federer during critical game points.

The Cost of Being a World Champion

1:25:34 to 1:26:42

Discover the sacrifices made by athletes, including family time and normal teenage experiences.

“And I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't imagine my life without this.”

Balancing Life and Sports

1:26:42 to 1:27:44

Hear how the guest manages stress and performance through balance in life outside of sports.

“I'm just talking about it for a minute to go.”
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0:00Anahat Singh of India has finally claimed a world junior title. Do you think number two position is back? I think it's the worst. For me, when I've come second, it's hurt the most. Because it's like, you've done everything, you've won every single match in the event, and then you've come that close to winning, and then you come second. I just wish I came third. Anahat Singh, India's rising squash star. At just 18, she became the first Indian ever to win the world junior squash championships. Today, she talks about her journey, the mindset behind the game, and what it really takes to live and train like an athlete.

0:36What happened in Bega? In semifinals, you injured your ankle and then you were advised not to play. I spoke to the doctors at home. They were like, you're going to aggravate the injury even further if you go into court. Even my parents were like, why are you doing this? Did you see that as losing or did you see that as like a bad day? I saw I was losing. I looked out of the court and I saw like three of my teammates and my two coaches sitting outside and they were just like, I'll just push, just push through this like one match. And if you're going on to court, you're not just playing for yourself.

1:07You've said somewhere before that I've always had the mental strength. Physically, there's a hundred squash players out there who are better than me. Physicality, sure, everyone has skill. Most people have, but mentality, some people have, some people don't. Definitely there'll be some days that I am number one But then there'll also be days where I'm number 10 Are you a good loser? No, I'm terrible I take a long time to get over losses Since the beginning or right now? No, always Why? You don't know how to lose? I can't I'm way too competitive What cost did you pay to become a world champion?

1:40Hitting out on life I ended up missing my graduation a couple of months back That was one day that hit me the most than any other day Where were you? I was in Egypt for a tournament. I opened my phone. The first thing I saw was my friends just, you know, at their graduation and just posting pictures. I mean, I would not do anything to trade where I am right now either.

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3:12Tell me if someone's watching you for the first time and they have no clue who you are and they're wondering who's this person sitting right here yeah how would you tell them who are you what do you do i play squash that's the biggest part of me i guess give me some story to your the ones which you have probably not shared with the world like what happened you joined squash how old were you eight you were eight years old you joined squash you started playing and then when did it get serious that hey now i want to go in here i I want to start beating people and I'll be the champion. As soon as I started playing.

3:52Day one, you were that competitive? I mean, I always knew that I wanted to do something with sports, whether it was squash, badminton, any other sport. I mean, I don't know. I've always been very sporty in that sense, even in school. I started badminton when I was five. So it was really, really early on. And it's just something even now, like if you tell me, don't play squash for one week I can't like I physically cannot do that I need to do something in my day something physical something where you know I have to go and hit the ball or some sort of activity okay and yeah I mean that's just how it's I started I played the British Junior Open which was the biggest one of the biggest junior stages that only I think I was nine or ten years old and I ended up winning it the first time that I went and I think that was I that was just like my parents took me as a holiday it was my first international tournament was one of the first events that I was actually playing it was more for my sister because she was five years older than me and it was she was playing under 17 so it was more of a serious event for her and more of just like family holiday just an ad come along and they enrolled me and I ended up winning it and um I don't know I think that was just one of the events that I realized that okay maybe it's not just a hobby you know and I think I mean for me still it's it's a hobby for me it's still something that I don't really look at as you know a profession or anything like that I think just yeah that event was something that I realized that okay this this can actually work out yeah but did if I have to ask you a little deeper question do you think sports was more like an identity play for you or as an escape for you uh i think it's both it's an escape for me when it's like if okay i'd say when any everything else in my life is too stressful sports is an escape where if you know if there was too much stress with exams or too much if i'm arguing with my parents or my friends or anything like that then first thing I do is go to the squash court hit a few balls and just get my mind off of it but also the other way around that if squash is getting too much then you know I go to my parents I go to my friends and you know I think it's it just gets mismatched like that and I think I mean originally it was more of an escape but you know as I'm starting to play more professional and it's becoming it's actually becoming more of a profession rather than a hobby it is becoming my identity and you know if I mean even you asked me so how do you how would you describe yourself I mean the first thing that comes to my mind is squash I mean it's something that I can't really imagine my life without but I'm also someone that you know enjoys doing things besides that to you know I mean if like I said before as well like if I feel like I'm doing just squash all the time that's way too much for me and I really need to balance things out and that's why I mean a lot of people ask me like okay how is it that I only train like two hours a day because there's some people who only play like national level and who end up playing like six hours a day and I'm like I just can't see myself doing that and I don't think that would actually work in my favor so I mean I think for me I'm I think it's really really important for me to just balance things out and just you know try I love trying new things I love trying new sports even though squash is there i love trying new sports i love you know going out and trying new food and just new things and discovering new places and yeah i mean even though i am a creature of habit and you know do things and follow things in a certain way i'm also in contrast someone who likes to do new things as well nice so what you said you like trying new things your new food you love playing new sports what new sports do you play or do you try uh i mean I've grown up playing different sports even in school there was a certain point where I had to you know give that a break I remember when I want I really really wanted to be like in the school basketball team but my coaches and my parents said no way we cannot risk getting you injured and I was so upset about that because I just even though I had squash I just wanted to do like a hundred things alongside it as well so I was like okay fine this is one thing I'm not gonna listen that's okay and then I left like the sports aspect out of it but now I mean I like like even if it's not squash I like trying new like watching new shows I like going to new places new countries and just trying new things all the time because if I can't explore it in the sports aspect which I really wanted to do I'm gonna try to substitute it in other ways nice so new countries which new country to do with it recently uh recently you actually end up going to the same places for squash but i remember like one of the places that we ended up going to australia last year and it was this place right in the middle of nowhere you would have never heard of it it's called bega and we had to take two flights to get there one 12 hour flight one eight hour flight then we had to drive for four hours and it was in the middle of nowhere and it was one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my entire life and I think just you know getting to travel and seeing that and you know it was one of the it was a really small tournament as well so I think just you know getting the chance to do that and it was just I mean that's one place I'm never ever gonna forget.

9:27Never? Never. What happened in Vega? I remember something happened. Oh yeah I mean it wasn't the best squash wise but it did give give me the chance to you know go around the city a little bit more but I mean I got injured quite badly in that tournament and I had to retire from the final yeah so so in semi-finals you injured your ankle yeah yeah and then you were advised not to play but why you still ended up playing why yeah I mean like I told you it was a really long journey so I mean I was like okay if I've come all the way here there's no chance I'm just letting this go like that and also the fact that I mean I've always even like just been brought up in a way that even though something is going wrong, even if I'm injured, I'm still going to push through it and try.

10:14I mean, I spoke to the doctors at home and they were like, you're going to aggravate the injury even further if you go into court. Even my parents were like, why are you doing this? And I was like, you never know what happens. I remember I played an event two years before that and I was injured and I still, I don't know how, just because of the adrenaline of the whole situation, I ended up winning. So I was like, you know, if that's happened, maybe it can happen again. so I mean I was like why not give it a shot but didn't seem to work out this time. But weren't you worried that in semi-finals doctors told you that if you play you might end up making your ankle worse and you might not be able to play for long and there could have been like anything could have happened right probably you must have maybe lost your ankle for a long period and for six seven months one year you would you would be on bed or not play at all like did you not think about all these possibilities?

11:03I did but I also didn't want to you know lose the chance of possibly winning the tournament as well it was one of my first tournaments that I had you know gone and played was one of the bigger tournaments that I had gone to play as well because it was my initial ones you know playing in the senior circuit so I also wanted to you know because I knew that I was playing well in that event that you know if I somehow end up winning it I wasn't expected to win it I wasn't even expected to reach the final so if there's any way that I can somehow pull it off and you know just you know start off my senior career in a good way then I would love to do that especially in a place that I loved so much so I mean I just wanted to give it a shot but I mean who were you playing against uh I played an Egyptian girl 28 year old I think she was in her 20s yeah and then so you walked out of the court even before giving your full how did you feel about that because you hate losing yeah would you see this as losing would you see this as giving up that day I definitely did because you know I went into court I still played the match if I didn't play the match it would have been a different situation but I still went and you know if you go back into history and look at the record it still shows that I lost the match so it's for me I was extremely upset that day because firstly of course I was injured and I also knew that I had a few important tournaments coming up as well so I didn't know how it was going to go and you know what the next few days were going to look like and I mean of course I lost the match and I really really wanted to you know win that tournament because I knew going into it that I had a good chance and like I mentioned before it was one of my first events as well so I mean I remember that tournament to be one of the tournaments that I was extremely upset I mean, my parents didn't really know what to do.

12:49And like, it was a four hour car ride just to the airport. And I remember just staring out into the window. I was like, my leg was up in like the car seat because doctors said, keep it elevated. So for four hours, my leg was just up and I was looking out and I was like, I don't know what's going to happen now. I have a very important tournament in a week coming up. And yeah, I mean, it was a confusing tournament. It was a confusing one month, but I mean, nothing too serious happened after that. and it all worked out but would you see that in your head at that point would you see did you see that as losing or did you see that as just like a bad day no i saw i saw it as losing and why why would you not see it as a bad day oh okay injury it's okay move on because i still gave it a shot the thing is if i admitted that okay like i wouldn't have been able to pull it off that would have been a different situation but you know i still believed that i could have won and I still had that hope that you know I could give it a shot and do well and I think if I didn't have that hope then it would have been a different situation because you know I would have expected it and I would have been prepared in my head that okay there's a chance I can lose but you know I still knew that there was some way I could you know when there was I was in a good form and I could you know even if I just you know did something or the other even if I was just on one leg and somehow managed to do it even if it was like down to the last few points but you know in my head it was very different and were you not worried about injury at all I mean I was but I also knew that if I felt like it was getting worse in the match I could walk out any minute so I mean I it was like worth a shot yeah I was like why not because I have I can take the risk and even if I take the risk there's always a way out of it so nice you know I was when I was a kid I was in school I remember it was 9th standard 8th standard something and I used to play Taekwondo and it was my national gold match okay so it was finals and I knew that I had silver anyone just reaching here it's silver right so it was just that last match right and the moment first round started I got injured here because the other person kicked here by mistake and I couldn't speak my voice which is off this is what happened right yeah the voice girl and everyone around me suggested that i should quit because they were like if one more cake what if you lose voice forever what if this never comes like you should not take the risk this and that and i quit i didn't pursue because i was like in my head if i ended up losing voice this taekwondo thing is not going to last forever what will i do without a voice right yeah and i lost and i have that silver medal and i hate it till date but I mean now in what you're doing you need the voice it's like it worked out yeah it worked out but I regret it I was like I wish because when I saw the final points and just after first round I was up so it was just like I would have all I had to do was just stay there for two more rounds yeah like just do nothing and I would have been gold medals and I couldn't so I regretted till like till date and I was a kid I should have forgotten about it and today my voice matters way more than anything in my life it was you have to pick one or the other yeah but now like at that time I didn't know right my voice will matter so much yeah but I regret it and I so every time I hear about an injury so I can understand because I quit and I feel like there are moments it's been years there are moments i still feel like a loser sometime because i'm like oh i didn't i didn't push through i wish i would have done that i wish i would have showed up in the court just the way you did but mine didn't work too well so maybe it's okay you took the better way out yeah but but it's like as an athlete you can no matter what match you're playing even it's a small club level or a national level or an international level you feel bad you feel like really really bad in fact i was watching this documentary by nadal did you see the nadal documentary right yeah you saw his point where he was he also had this injury and he's like he had no he had like didn't they say that he um had like no chance of playing again yes yes he had no chance of playing again and in fact at one point nadal uh you know made it a belief that if it's paining it means he's doing good.

17:23So he would like play really hard and then if it starts pain like in the middle of the game I think his legs somewhere something some disease his foot. So if it starts hurting then he's like oh I'm doing good. So he would hurt himself intentionally more because now it's like now it's hurting I'm on a play board and I'll win. Do you do that? No because then sometimes the pain gets too much. But maybe I'll reach that mentality. But no I know that I mean of course if it's paining too much then I don't really have much of a choice because if it hurts that means that there's also a chance of it getting worse so I don't want to risk that either but of course if it's not too much and I feel like I can push through it then there's always a why not yeah athletes do that it becomes your whole identity so if you quit on court you feel like oh you like that's your identity like oh yeah I'm I'm not someone who gives up in life.

18:22You will start not see. You don't see yourself as someone who got out of the game because of an injury. You see yourself as a loser or somebody who quit. Yeah, you can't quit without trying. Yeah, you think about that as well. Yeah, definitely. All the time. I mean, that's one thing. For some reason, in this tournament, the World Juniors, I've played for five years and I've gotten injured all five years. and especially like this like the one that happened this year my individuals was over and I had already won the event and you know and then we have the team event after that I mean of course as an individual the individuals are important but for the team event it's not just you you're playing for the four people you're playing for the country you're playing for I mean the stakes are a lot higher and I had a really really long week and I had a training block for almost one and a half months before so I was completely flat and I was super tired and I got really badly injured in one of the team matches and I mean I looked out of the court and I saw like three of my teammates and my two coaches sitting outside and they were just like and I'll just push just push through this like one match because they really needed it to win the match and I mean it wasn't just my own match if I retired then okay I lost but I was already satisfied because I won the individuals but it was like the team would lose then so then I could see it in their eyes I was like okay no matter what like even if I won the individuals it doesn't mean anything because it matters if I'm playing for myself it's a different thing then if I've lost only I feel bad if I lose in a team event match it's a hundred other people you know that feel it so I was just saying you have to really really push through it and you know somehow it wasn't a very tough match but it was something that always ends up happening in these team events and has happened for the last five years and I think this event especially is something that has always stuck with me because it's you know taught me that like sport is not just about yourself and if you're going on to court you're not just playing for yourself especially in like in this tournament as well like the one in Bega I knew that if I walked out it wasn't just me that lost it was my coaches it was everyone that helped my parents and everyone who traveled there and helped me, you know, prepare for the event.

20:43So I couldn't have just let that go for no reason. You've said somewhere before that I've always had the mental strength. I never used it properly, something like that, right? What was that? I mean, people always ask me that, do you not get stressed out before tournaments? And even my coach, I mean, I've not really thought about too much because I feel like I've always had it. And one thing that really helps me out in events like these and the stakes are really high is that I can play without pressure and I can play freely. And I think that's one of the things that's really benefited me as well, because I've seen in a few tournaments where I've taken a lot of pressure and I go completely flat.

21:29I lose to players that no one would expect me to lose to. and then there's events where you know I have no thought in the world and I'm just going in to just enjoy every moment and I'm I played the best squash I've ever played in my life so I think just that's something that has always worked for me and you know that even my coaches have seen and before tournaments and before tournaments that and matches and they feel like I might get stressed out they make sure they talk to me extra to make sure that you know because they feel like my mental strength because physically there's a hundred squash players out there who are better than me and they feel like my mental strength is something that sticks out and they want to make sure and I want to make sure that every single match that I go into that's something that I have because physicality sure everyone has skill most people have but mentality some people have some people don't so it's like one thing that I feel like I should keep and you know I'm happy that I have that and I'm gonna make you know full use of it and you know make sure I bring out the best of it.

22:32What really excites you? About? About anything just not squash well like what do you what keeps you going? I mean I just like doing things that I have fun with if I do something that I'm I get bored that's why I like to do many things at the same time because I feel like if I get like too stressed out and squashed and I get bored then my mindset will change completely what's the bad like let's say negative thing you do like something something which is associated with guilty pleasure like watching binge watching reels and stuff like oh yeah of course I think that's every teenager I stay up too late binge watching reels and of course eating junk food all the time no where does junk food go it doesn't show up in the court but not your whole family.

23:18No, but that's a good thing. I feel my parents keep saying stop, but they don't realize it's what, you know, actually is a fuel. Yeah. Is a fuel. What do you enjoy eating? Chocolate, chips, pizza. Give me specific. What chocolate? I mean, I have this routine that before I go to sleep, I have to have six pieces of dairy milk. And I had this conversation with my mom yesterday, actually. We had an argument. She was like, Anath, Asian Games is coming up. You really need to stop. and then I called up my nutritionist right away and I was like please talk to my mom she's not letting me have chocolate and I've not had like I've always had chocolate for the last like 10 actually 18 years of my life ever since I've like even known what chocolate is so you can't tell like you can't let her stop me and then my nutrition is like okay like can we bring it down to five pieces four pieces I was like no I'm sticking to my six pieces and you can change anything else about my day but this doesn't change this doesn't like every day dairy milk needs to be that you've been eating since how long?

24:17I mean, forever. Like if I go back and talk to like people who've been in the squash circuit, they tell me, I don't remember this, but they tell me stories about how like when I was eight years old and I used to start playing squash, like I had just started, I used to roam around with like two pieces of like the small dairy milk chocolates in my bag all the time. And people used to come and ask me like, Anath, can we please have some? And I'd say, no, you can't touch it. and how people usually have like bananas in between matches. I used to have chocolates. So it's like my fuel. It's your fuel and since forever.

24:51Forever. It's been like that. And the same type of Derry Milk? Yeah, Derry Milk Oreo. No other change. No, why? I don't know. I just... Have you tried other flavors, other chocolates? I have. I mean, if I have no option, then yes. But if I'm home in Delhi, it's just something that I stick to. I can't change it. Wow. Derry Milk should sponsor you like right now. at this point I'd love that I think I was going through my blanket order history and just chocolate chocolate chocolate wow fuel for the champions they should do that at this point if they're watching somebody Cadbury guys please yeah this is this is your I'd save a lot of money so guilty pleasures Derry Milk binge watching reels who do you follow on Instagram that you absolutely love or maybe you don't even follow and just talk yeah I don't follow anyone and I just go through here.

25:43If I like someone, then I'll go through that account. I'll spend like 45 minutes on that account. I'll go to the next. I'll like someone, spend 45 minutes on that account. So give me someone who you've been obsessed with lately. Recently? Yesterday, I was actually, because I was thinking about like new post ideas and I was going through Emma Radhikanu's posts and they were really cool. So I was trying to, you know, on my notes app, like post ideas. The tennis player, right? Yeah. And I was going through it and I was like, her posts are really nice and I need to maybe I can copy some ideas from her and I was just making a list of you know like post ideas from her account and yeah that was something most recent I was going through nice so Emma Emma who else do you like Naomi yeah I mean her style is really cool yeah like do you see yourself doing that ever like being in fashion and doing the same thing or that doesn't appeal I can because I really like you know just dressing up on court and wearing nice things and I'm very conscious about what I wear when I get into court.

26:45Okay, what are you conscious about? No, like I have a certain style and certain things that I like to wear. A little bit also because of superstition but also because I just, I feel like if I feel like I'm comfortable and I feel like I look nice when I'm going into court, I play better as well. Where does this come from? And what's the superstition? I mean, superstition is, I usually, if I play well, I mean, I don't want to jinx it but if I play well in a certain color or a certain outfit then I end up wearing that for the whole tournament. I mean, it looks a bit weird because I'm wearing the same thing over and over again but I mean, that's something that I stick to.

27:23And yeah, I mean, just mainly... Which color has gotten you the maximum wins? Black and white. I know that's really boring but all my outfits, if I go through my cupboard or if I go through my suitcase when I'm packing it's just monotone, black, white. Just absolute black and white because they make you champion. As of now, I think so. You just started thinking about that or somebody put that idea in your head? No, I mean, I think it's just something. I mean, black and white is something that is the simplest and I started wearing it and then I just started doing well when I wore it and then I just stuck to it.

27:58But now I'm getting into red a little bit, add a little bit of color. But hopefully my color scheme expands a little bit in the next few years and not too boring and just black and white everywhere. Doesn't matter as long as it makes you win. So on the court, you can still be boring black and white. I need you right now, black and white. But when you're outside, you can maybe experiment with like 500 different colors. Not 500, five. Slowly, we'll go off. Then for Naomi, it's a little off for you. I mean, I like her style. I mean, I like the fact that she does, tries different things. But right now, I'm too, you know, set.

28:35As long as it's actually making you win, no? Yeah. So that's what, any other color which has made you win?

28:44There was, like I said, red. There was one outfit that I wore and it made me win. Then I wore that a few times and then I started losing wearing that outfit. So then that went into the back of my cupboard and I never touched it again. Okay, bad energy. Yeah, not happening. Going back to black and white. Wow, do you know that almost every sports person has something like this? Yeah, I've seen like if I go through like the interview, and stuff. One of the questions that's always asked is, what's your superstition? I've seen people say like the way that they set their bottles during like tennis matches.

29:17I mean, I've not gone to that extent yet, but maybe one day I do. Yeah, Nadal is like that, right? Like the way he sets his bottles. Yeah. No, I have a few really weird ones as well. Tell me. Tell me the weird superstitions. I mean, there's a few that like if I look out at a certain person, like if my dad is sitting there, my mom's sitting there, my coach is sitting there and i'll win a point when i look at my dad mom and then my coach first i will stick to that order and then if i lose the point i will keep experimenting and keep switching the order and then if i like win a point sticking to one then i will keep doing that and somehow it actually ends up working i don't know how nice yeah there's a few i wipe my head and if i wipe my head and i win the point i keep doing that so it's quite a few odd ones but do you think about all of these before you get on the court?

30:09No, not really. It's just from the first point. And also, if I turn my racket around, it's facing a certain way and I win that first point, I will do that. And sometimes it's a few of them combined. So it's like, I have to do 10 ,000 things in between that few seconds that I have. And I'm like... Find a winning formula. Do I think about my match or do I think about what all I need to do when I need to wipe my hand? It's a lot. Nice. and then you would find the winning formula some random combination and it'll work in the entire tournament or for that match or for like 5 points for that match and if I feel like if it switches around then I'm more focused on actually trying to find my new superstition rather than what I need to change in my match I'm trying to fix that because I get too defocused then but I mean it's always worked for me so I think I mean I guess it's a form of like giving me confidence yeah but why are you trying to change that when it's working because then I don't think about actually you know the squash aspect of it I'm just thinking about okay I wiped my hand on a certain point in the court I need to keep going back and wiping my hand there so it's like am I thinking about that or you know which which shot I need to take isn't it good and isn't it better I mean I guess it kind of is because then if I lose a point it derails my mind from it a bit as well so yeah because I I would think that it's better for you because you're not actually focusing on oh how do I win the game how do I do this how do this in your head you know that okay you just you know the game you you've gotten through this like 500 times so you just need to find your some anchor point so that you can get back in the game yeah i mean i think it has its benefits i mean right now i'm only seeing the benefits so i'm gonna keep going whenever like yeah have you seen any time it has like it has messed up with your mind a lot it's not messed up in my mind there's been times where i've lost the match and it's not worked but I don't think it's because of the superstition.

32:05It's actually because of what I've produced on the court but I sometimes blame it on the superstition even though it's my fault. I agree. That's a good way to actually blame it. I can't take accountability. It's not my fault. Are you a good loser or no? No, I'm terrible. You're terrible? I take a long time to get over losses. Since the beginning or right now? No, always. Always? Yeah. Why? You don't know how to lose. You can't lose. I can't. I'm way too competitive. Not only in squash, even in like, if I'm playing a board game with my friends or my family. If I lose, I won't be able to see their faces for the next few days.

32:49What do you do when you're losing? Or when you lose? When I lose, I cry. I mean, sometimes I remember from when I was a kid, even though I was happy, if I've played someone really good and I've lost it's just been an instinct that I have to cry even though I've been happy it's just been something that's been in it but now I mean I've stopped doing that it's too embarrassing now but why is it embarrassing it's good no I need to be mature who's putting these ideas in your head myself why it's good to cry no I know I cry it's better people will love you more you will love yourself more no I cry when I you know when I feel like it but I don't force myself okay but yeah I mean I'm I'm a really bad loser I take too long to get over it and my coaches I mean they know because normally if you talk to a coach they'd be like you've done this wrong you've done this wrong but they know that if they talk to me about the bad things after I've lost that it's going to make me feel worse so now they've just started you know consoling me rather than you know actually talking about the match so it's worked well so you cry not anymore not anymore No, unless I genuinely feel really bad about it, then yeah.

34:01But you would cry after even a practice game or just tournaments? No, just tournaments. Just tournaments. Yeah. Let's say you lose a match in a practice game, then? I mean, I'd be quite hard on myself. I mean, my parents have brought me up in a way that whenever they'd get the time, they'd come and watch my matches. And whenever they'd watch my matches, they'd sometimes give me inputs and they'd tell me what to do before and after. So, I mean, even during practice games, I've, you know, been brought up in a way that I need to take it like I'm playing a tournament. So I think that's just something that even if I'm playing a practice game and I lose, I hate losing like every single point.

34:40So what's hard on you? You said you're hard on yourself even when you lose a practice match. Yeah, I mean, because I know that if I'm making those mistakes in practice, then I might make those in the match as well. so I might as well just you know make sure that I'm not you know doing that during my practice games and making sure that everything is going well so that you know nothing goes wrong but that's a mental game right that's a mental game but what do you do like you said I'm quite hard on myself yeah what do you mean by that like do you sit down with the pen and paper try to solve certain things do you beat yourself up do you get angry at yourself what do you do no I mean I just keep replaying it over and over in my head but and I've started recording my games as well now because my coach doesn't live in India.

35:22So I always, whenever I play like practice games, I send it over to him. So now once I have the recordings, before I go to sleep, I always watch them. And before I go to sleep, it's like always in my head, like, why did you do this? And you really need to like change it in the next one. And I keep making the same mistakes. So it's like, before I go to sleep, it's always, you know, replaying in my head over and over. Do you sleep with, like, do you sleep with playing your games in your head? like in your dreams do you think dream about squash only no i dream about my reels because i i do scroll a lot so it's like after i watch my squash match i make sure that i either watch a tv show or you know scroll because i don't want to go to sleep thinking about squash as well so then i make sure that you know i distract myself and it's just you know something that i like doing to get my mind off of it nice you know it's beautiful so many things you do which are based on psychology principles and you don't even know about it that's in very interesting whoever has taught you this or maybe you yourself it's incredible like i can think of five psychological principles that you're doing in your head which is a little bit over talk it's amazing okay so tell me more what what else do you see you when you lose your heart on yourself but when you go home you distract yourself with some certain some kind of reels so those are the reels which are playing in your head.

36:43Do you wake up then the next day thinking about that I lost? Not so much actually because I mean and for the last 10 years I've had school in the morning so I've been like waking up thinking about school rather than squash and I only used to train like once school used to end so I mean once I wake up I used to think about school just spend time with my friends and you know get that part of my life into you know the day and then And once I come back home, then, you know, squash is more in the evening part. So I spend like three, four hours in the evening thinking about squash and only squash. And then, you know, the first couple of hours and the first half of the day about the rest of the thing.

37:23So I can balance things out of bed. But do you, during the day, maybe after school, do you think about that? I want to win. I want to be the champion. I want to be this person. I want to win this tournament. Are you like that? I mean, definitely, because, I mean, a lot of my day goes on talking about squash even at home, because I'd be talking to my parents, okay, I have these tournaments to play, and, like, I have to go for training here, and, like, just my planning. So, I mean, most of the day, it's just, you know, circling in my head, you know, what my future is like, and what I need to do now, and, you know, just my plans and stuff.

37:57So, I mean, it's constantly going on in my head. I mean, even in school, sometimes my teachers used to just look at my laptop, and they'd see like a squash match open on you know my laptop rather than me studying used to be a bit of a problem sometimes but I think they got used to it after a point but are they nice to you when they see you just being involved in squash I mean yeah or are they not nice to you and be like hey that's the part of the life which you can take care of after school I they were a mix I mean I think it would depend on the time of the day if it's you know if they're in a good mood they let me watch my squash matches and I mean they know I'm like that whether they say you know stop it or not they know eventually i'm gonna watch it so they i mean there was a lot of times they used to be like okay first 10 minutes in ahat okay if you want to watch your squash watch it we're not doing anything important but after that you need to you know make sure that the next 30 minutes of the lesson you're actually focusing on the study so you used to have deals like that nice so everyone around you has been supportive yeah have you gotten angry on your parents during the game or after the game i think that's numerous times i mean not angry but we argue a lot i mean especially like give me the yeah during practices and stuff if you know they're telling me do this do this i get annoyed i'm like i know what i'm doing just don't tell me but i think just we've had a few talks i've had a few talks with my coaches as well and they're like they're your parents they're doing it for your own good they're not just doing it because they're bored so just listen to them and yeah I mean it's all just gonna help me out in the future and I think just it's taking me a bit of time to realize that and I think today is one of the days I'm realizing it but you never know tomorrow I'm annoyed with them again so it's a cycle tell me the worst time tell me a time where you were at your worst behavior with them uh I mean I still have those days actually there's I mean I had an argument with my mom yesterday and she's like you don't listen to me I'm telling you this you have to just you know listen there was a while in the middle where you know my dad's been quite involved as well because he he's mainly the one that travels with me and he knows the most about squash in my family besides of course my sister but yeah I mean he's also constantly telling me and there was a while where we'd argue like every single day and after a point he was like Anath okay you want to do this on your own do it on your own then I'm not getting involved and then I think after a few days I realized that you know I actually need him on my side I was like okay please just come back help me out and I think just I have of course I'm still a teenager and I have my mood swings so yeah I mean it's going to take me a while to realize it but yeah did you go and like apologize or no you were just like oh this is all done like just brush it under the carpet I don't I don't say too many sorries but I think I try to go and talk to them and I try to be extra sweet and I think they realized that that's my form of saying okay i apologize for my behavior today just please come back when was the last time you were sorry um last time i was sorry i'd say before like my event like the world juniors that happened i when i was in training during like in prague and of course i had my coach there as well and my parents were there as well so of course when i'm in prague it's all just squash squash squash all the time so I mean when I come back home to like the apartment and I just want to rest and forget about it and I'm like my parents are still saying okay you didn't do this in your practice session and stuff like that and my coach is telling me that as well so I'm like I think that was the last time I remember actually having an argument and I was like okay can you give me a break like this is my time to just go and like sit in bed and enjoy and talk to my friends and I think yeah I mean that was the last time we actually argued about and they're like, okay, you don't want to listen to us, don't listen to us.

41:45And the next day I ended up playing really badly. So I think that was just after that, I was like, okay, maybe I should listen to them. And that's, you know, the world's way of telling me that if you don't listen, then you're going to play like this all the time. So I was like, okay, I apologize. I'll listen to you from now on. But did you listen then? I tried. I tried for a few days and then I went back to normal and then I tried for a few days. So it's a cycle right now. Do you find it difficult to just say word sorry? Yeah, definitely. It's quite hard. Why is that hard? Because you feel like, oh, it's not my fault.

42:21Yeah. They should have understood. I do say that to myself sometimes. But I mean, I'm not too good with my words. So I have other ways of showing my love and showing if I feel bad about something, then I show it in other ways rather than actually saying it. Fair. Okay. based on every opponent you have faced let's say you can't actually rank other opponents people who you have never played maybe you will face some of them in LA like right now based on everyone you have faced do you think you have superior mental strength? I don't think I'm number one why? you've beaten them all in my age category?

43:04yeah all the opponents in your age category maybe one or two I'd say so what came in your head why did you keep yourself as two because who came in your head I mean it's not who it's I think it's just about me because I'll also have my ups and downs there'll be days where I feel like okay yeah definitely that I feel like I'm very strong right now and I feel like I'm in a really good place then there'll be some days where of course I mean every athlete will doubt themselves and I think there will be days where there'll be other squash players who will feel like they're doing then a better place than i am so i don't think i can say i'm number one because there'll definitely there'll be some days that i am number one but then there'll also be days where i'm number 10 okay so i think it definitely varies on which tournament i am and so it's not who like you you can't think of an individual person who has better mental strength than you you can just think about yourself like yeah i think good days number one bad days number two yeah i think it's more about me than anyone else and what is going on in my head.

44:08Nice. Do you compare yourself with anyone? No, not so much. Never? Have you compared yourself with anyone? Are the squash players? No. Anyone. Just in life also you can tell me. Compared myself. In any aspect of your life? I'd compare myself to my friends. For what? I mean sometimes I'd wish I'd have their lives. Why? What is there in their life? Sometimes. Like sometimes. What are those times? I mean, some days when I'd see them, you know, going out and having fun. And what is going out and having fun? Going for parties, going shopping, going for movies. And, you know, I ended up missing my graduation a couple of months back.

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44:53That was one day that hit me the most than any other day. Where were you? I was in Egypt for a tournament. And that day you were playing or that day you were just sitting? No, no. I had an event. I had a match that day. Were you able to win that? no I ended up I had a match that day with the world number one and I had I mean I knew going into the event that of course I'm playing the world number one and I don't have much of a chance and I was really really upset I went for breakfast that day and the first thing I did my mom looked at me and she could just tell on my face something was off and she was like Anahat are you okay and I just started like bawling my eyes out I was like this is like one of the worst days like I opened my phone the first thing I saw was like my friends just you know at their graduation and just posting pictures seeing pictures on like a group chat and I was like this is one of the days where I just wish that you know I was a part of their life and I you know I didn't have to play this tournament but you know I mean I would not do anything to trade where I am right now either so it's a hard decision but because you lost that day would you still go out knowing that the outcome is losing and knowing that the outcome is missing out on a graduation day would you still choose the tournament or go for graduation day because anyway you're going to lose so you'll come back later when you're ready to beat that player I mean it's a tough question I'd say I'd say I'd still go for the event because the tournament yeah because it was the first time that I played the world number one and it wasn't that I lost hollow and I think that was one of the matches where I got to learn a lot and I got to see what my level really was at and you know what gap there really is between me and the world number one and I mean it's my dream to get there as well so firstly it was just you know I was honored to actually get into court with someone like her and then actually getting to see the gap between both of us to see how much I have to work and you know to be on the same like spot what is one thing about you which you feel was better than hers i mean i really don't think anything was think i mean i'd say like i mean this is what my coaches say so i can just copy what exactly what they're saying what do you think i mean i agree with them okay yeah so this is what do you think as well that they think that like my shorts say you think me what do you think yeah that you know my shorts to the front of the court and you're like my attacking style is something that not many people have and even it's something that's not usually done like usually in squash it's all like you hit to the back you hit to the back until you actually get a very good opportunity to hit to the front but I don't have the patience to do that and my style has always just been even on the first shot just go and attack like from the first yeah from the first point to the last and i think that's just something that is different about my game style and i mean the world number one who i played she doesn't really play like that she plays the traditional very basic very good and solid game and no attack when you get the chance and i played complete opposite of that and do you believe so this is a good thing about you?

48:26I think it is a good thing but it's also not. Do you believe that it's a good thing? I do. No, but that's it. We can end it at that. No, no, no. I have to add my justification to it. Why? Why do you want to justify? Because I mean, it's helped me until now until I've got to the top 20 but now that I look at it it's also just attacking has too many risks. and if I look back at my games my basic game is not that at all like if someone just hits asks me hit five shots to the back it's really hard for me to do that but if you ask the world number one or you know even someone in the top 20 hit five shots continuously to the front they wouldn't be comfortable to do that so my game is quite opposite to what you know a traditional swash player would play and I think especially playing in the senior tour now I've realized that you know that game will work and it's really good that i have that game because not everyone has it but i also need to you know focus on how everyone else plays and add a little bit of that because i mean there's a reason they play like that it's not just you know but have you ever thought like maybe that's your edge i mean it is but i think i need to use it in the right way and not just all the time because you know when it's not working it doesn't work at all and when it's really good it's really good so i think just i right now what i'm working on mainly is just to find that mid balance when you know if i'm having a bad day even my bad day is good enough to beat you know certain players where it's not just if i have a terrible day i'm losing to everyone and that's what it is right now then if i have a bad day i lose to people that i'm not supposed to lose to and why because i mean like i mentioned my my basic game is just not there but what's the bad day i mean bad because you said on a bad day i lose to people who are who i'm not supposed to lose yeah i mean my bad days would probably be just you know when i'm making too many errors when i'm not in the right mind space and what is the right mind space but is bad day because of bad rest bad feeling no dairy milk no superstition what i'm not figuring out the pattern yet or like red that red ugly dress which made you lose i've not figured the pattern out yet but i feel like every athlete it's not that you can play perfectly every single day of your life and not saying that what do you think about you because you said you didn't say there are there are times when i play good and i lose and there are times when i play good and i win you didn't say that you said that there are bad days and i know that i'm losing and in the practice session i can feel it i mean there is something there is something that in your body that tells you that instinct that gut like what is it i mean i don't know i'm losing but i mean the days i know i'm gonna win i can just feel it more because then i just feel more confident i'm like today's my day yeah i'm in a better mood i can just you know doesn't you can't really put it into words but i mean in the practice sessions you can just because you end up playing like how you would in a match and then you can just kind of tell that okay my shots are going where I want them to go and if they if then like I mentioned my practice sessions if I'm playing at home as well if I play up to the mark in my practice sessions and I can do that in my matches as well it's the same thing in tournaments if I feel like I'm doing well in my practice sessions and I'll do well in my match as well so I think that the same thing applies but it's not that necessarily I'll play badly in my practice and I lose in the match it's not always like that but I mean I can sometimes I get the feeling tell me a silly thing because of which you have lost a match something that just derailed your mindset and then you're like oh shit I lost a silly thing I mean

52:23there's actually okay the two times that I've lost a junior match it's been when I've not gone for a practice session in the morning and it's something that that the first time it happened was in my when I was 11 years old and I ended up losing under five I was like 20 minutes match was over and I was like what did I do differently today and I looked back at the tournament I was like okay so today is the day I decided okay I'm in the final I'm gonna rest it out and not wake up in the morning not go for practice done I did the same thing in December this year at the same tournament three four years later I reached the final I felt confident I'm gonna win the final I decided I'm gonna sleep in not go for the practice session same thing and I think I mean I clearly did not learn from the five the thing that happened five years ago I did it for five years i mean i don't know why i thought i'm gonna win the match easily i did that i ended up losing the match one of the worst events of my life i'm probably never gonna do that again now you've learned the lesson hard way do you feel like a kid every time you are in the court like i'm just playing i'm here to have fun i mean it depends on the match if i'm playing junior events not so much but if i'm playing senior events most matches i'm just like excited to go on the court just have fun But junior events, you're serious?

53:48Yeah, it's stressful. Stressful? Yeah. Or you don't think that you're just having fun? Not juniors. Because juniors, it's like, the expectations are slightly higher because I'm usually ranked one and everyone expects me to win. But seniors, I'm always most, I mean, as of now, I'm mostly the dog. Until my ranking starts to climb up, then the situation will change. But I mean, yeah. What's your senior ranking? 20. Okay. Junior? One. Do you like this or no? I mean, of course. It's really nice. No, 20 and one. Oh. No. I wish it was one and one. But hopefully that happens in the next few years. Has it ever happened with an athlete?

54:36Junior one and then right immediately after that number one senior. The current world number two was like she was, she's, I told you she's 19 years old. So she was junior number one and then she was world number two. Oh, so she beat you two years ago. Yeah. She's the girl I lost to when I didn't wake up early morning for the practice. Oh, it was only about waking up early. Yeah. No, this was the one that was the first one like four years ago. And yeah, I mean, maybe I would have had a better competition with her if I, you know, woke up in the morning. I was. So you know this now, like next time you're seeing her, all you have to do is wake up early and just practice.

55:15I wish it was that easy. I know it's so easy. Come on, we all know this. You've got this. What are you worrying about? Let's worry about number one. Number two that we have gotten in disorder. Huge gap. No difference. No, number two that we have gotten in disorder. We have the strategy. Yeah, just wake up in the morning. Practice and then go. That's all. Number one, we need strategy because she's physically fitter. She's like 20 things. Number one, I need to do three practice sessions and then go for that. See, you have the strategy. Brilliant. Brilliant. just stamina to last after three practices as well that is important so that we need to figure everything else is sorted for you I have figured it out now 1 till 20 I know how to beat everyone brilliant we love this it happened here first so we want to remember this next time if anyone asks me so how did you figure out how to beat the world number one just practice all day until the match play the match exactly I discovered this while having a fun conversation with yeah if you ever do that you next time okay when you i know if those not in the question i know it's gonna happen so whenever you're gonna face her next time you will practice and then you end up beating her right and then you call me i'm like raj shit broke we killed it we did the exact same thing everything else all my 20 years of my life my parents they didn't figure it out it was just because of this conversation.

56:41Conversation, yes. This is just one practice I did. No, you'll get it. You'll get it. I know this. We can see this. When did you start fully believing in yourself that I've got it in me? I'm going to kill it.

56:57I wouldn't, I'd say maybe when I got selected for the Commonwealth Games. Okay, 14. Yeah. I think that was, because that was my first senior event. And before that, I had never interacted with the senior players. I'd never gone. I'd only played the junior events and I knew I was doing well then, but doing well in juniors and seniors are two very different things. And I think just going for that event, getting selected was one thing, but actually playing there just changed my perspective of everything and getting to see the top athletes in almost every single sport and getting to see, even if I didn't get to talk to them, you know, just going for dinner and seeing the way they acted, the way they were, how they you know prepared themselves before like events like the commonwealth games it's just something that changed my perspective completely when you go to commonwealth okay what's the most scary thing because you said you got overwhelmed when you entered at 14 and i can imagine yeah tell me what was the most overwhelming thing like is it the crowd is it the pressure is it the india tag india flag are these other players or like age what is it what what scares you the most because you're alone lonely in that court i'd say all of them because i remember because that was the first event that i'd seen all of them i did not leave my room i was that was also the first time that i traveled away from my parents and they'd always be with me that was the first time I stayed in my room alone.

58:28I was used to staying with my parents even in Delhi. So I did not leave my room. I'd only leave for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And in the first few days, I'd, you know, go for breakfast, lunch, dinner alone. I wouldn't want to, you know, go close to them. And I'd be so scared. Why? I don't know. It was just some, they were players that I've, you know, grown up watching and then actually seeing them in person. And, you know, I was someone who wasn't very talkative and I was extremely shy and you know going from that transition was something that was quite scary but yeah I mean they were some of the best people that I've ever met in my life and just over a couple of days I started getting used to it and I remember so you were like you entered you were in your in room alone for the first time you would just go eat food and come back yeah and then what I mean and then slowly I remember they tried to you know start getting me out of my comfort zone I remember the boys team used to go out to the supermarket and get chocolates and I mean of course back in the picture and you know just to get me more comfortable they'd come and knock on my door every night and ask me you know if I want any chocolates and if they want if I wanted to come talk to them and I think that's just how I slowly started getting comfortable and you know at the end of it I was completely fine and you know we were all talking like we'd known each other forever nice nice so walk me the day first time you're entering commonwealth like the day you have a match the day i had my match the first match that i had was actually on the center court like the glass court and i mean even the top players didn't get a chance to play on that court and i was somehow my match ended up getting shifted to that court and i mean playing on the center court surrounded by so many people is very different than playing on you know the side courts.

1:00:21Okay. So I think and I mean the crowd Give me a visual. I don't know. I wouldn't know what center court is side court is explained. The center court is mean it's a glass court. So there's a crowd surrounding the whole court. Yeah. So there's a crowd surrounding the whole court. Okay. Like the entire thing you can see people. Yeah. Because it's just glass. And the crowd is very different. The atmosphere is very different because they put it in a large space. And I mean, the side quotes are just wall and there's only an audience in the back. So I think the atmosphere and the crowd and everything is the opposite.

1:00:54So 360 degree, you can see people. It's a stadium. Yeah. And how many people? Like 10, 20 ,000 people? Not 10, 20 ,000. Swash is not big enough for that. But there was definitely a lot of people. And I remember going into the match feeling extremely nervous. but it was I mean I ended up winning that match What was nervous? What was making you nervous? I think just getting to play on that stage That so many people are watching everything's gonna I'm still young Yeah Yeah my first event playing someone who's not a junior and someone who's you know I think just playing at the Commonwealth Games just I don't think I processed that until I actually left the village and I mean it was very overwhelming at first but um yeah I think just that event is something that really shaped me in that match and the match after that and um I ended up playing a girl in the top 20 and I was 14 I was third yeah 14 years old and I ended up having a like 3-1 with her which was decently close for a 14 year old against a 20 year old a 14 yeah yeah yeah a 14 year old against 20 year old and I mean I think that was also one of the events that I realized that you know I'm in the big leagues now yeah and I need to game up I need to play better yeah but you won the first game yeah that gave you confidence it did but I mean I wanted to do some I mean I ended up playing a girl who was at a similar level as me so I wasn't completely satisfied and I mean I spoke to my parents my dad was there but he wasn't at the village he was outside and he spoke to me on the phone and you know we have this thing where he always explains the stats of every single opponent he says okay she's beaten this girl she's lost to this girl so there's a possibility of you you know having a chance against her and I remember talking to him on the phone and he was like you can actually really do it just push through it and I remember that match being one of the matches he was quite upset because he was like I actually had hoped that you could beat her and I was just happy that I actually ended up winning one game against her and I was like why are you upset just be happy that I'm 14 this is my first time I'm playing this event just you know let me have fun and be happy that I've you know done this much and he's like no but you could have done more and I think that's when I realized that you know if other people have the belief that I can do better then you know i should believe in it too and you know when i watched the match back i was like what did you do like you could actually have done it so dad studies the players yeah every time almost yeah so every time before you enter a tournament he would have studied the all the nitty-gritties of the opponent and he'll brief you or you would study as well no i will like i'll go through my coach with the tech about the technical stuff but my dad just does it for more confidence and he just tries to tell me like the scores against other opponents like he'll be like okay you've beaten this girl and this girl has beaten this girl so that means you can beat her so it's more like that and just mentally getting me stronger that you know if you've done this then this is nothing or would he tell you that okay you know backcourt backhand is little weak right court front court whatever this is weaker all of that would he tell you he does do that a bit but now he's trying to leave that to the coaches a bit but also i know that i mean he's traveled with me so much now he's been traveling since i started playing squash so he's seen my opponents more than anyone else so he knows quite a lot about it so whenever he has an idea he does tell me what's your process what's your when you enter a court what's a before process like what are you thinking right before entering a match 10 seconds one minute one hour is there a ritual uh i know this is an odd thing to say but i honestly don't like to think about my match before my match okay i normally do like my match analysis and watch my opponent's match the night before so that i can sleep on it and think about it and then when i wake up in the morning um of course i talk to my coach in the morning as well but if my match is you know later in the evening especially like an hour before I like to just be to myself and listen to music and you know think about other things because I feel like if I think too much about my match my heart just starts racing and I've tried this a few times because especially in stressful events where you know if I go and look at a squash match I'll start you know thinking of myself in the position and start overthinking everything but when I go and you know just if my friends are around at the event and I just go talk to them about random things and get my mind off of the match I somehow end up performing better so that's just something I like doing where you know I just go talk to people I go sometimes I end up watching a tv show like while warming up for my match and you know listening to music and you know imagining other things rather than my actual match so you would not think about the match no no if I feel like I'm gonna get stressed out then I don't and does it like is it a deliberate process or it's just how it is it's been like this it used initially it wasn't because i used to just automatically just not end up thinking about my match before but now i've realized when i've tried a few times thinking about my match and focusing too much on you know what i'm actually going to do 20 minutes later it just doesn't end up working too well and when I've just focused on other things and got my mind off of it and thought about it on the spot or just maybe a few minutes prior while warming up or while I'm just talking to my coach in the break times it works a lot better do you think number two position is bad I think it's the worst out of one two three thank you thank you for saying this I have I believe in this as well yeah go ahead tell I mean for me when I've come second it's hurt the most because it's like third you've lost in the semis fine you've still been one step away from winning the gold if you reach the finals you've been like so so close and it's like you've done everything you've won every single match in the event and then you've come that close to winning and then you come second yeah like the I always used to think that the biggest loser is number two because yeah it's like number three knew that he didn't or she didn't have a chance number two knew like i was like yeah exactly one second or one point or like that so when you come second what happened i just wish i came third then have you seen that report where they've analyzed i think for 20 olympics they've seen number one, number two and number three on the podium when they're receiving the medal and number three looks happier number two is just super sad I've seen that yeah just like silver medal is standing above but still that guy is like I saw a recent picture of Neeraj Chopra in the Commonwealth Games he got a silver and another Indian got a bronze and the other Indian was smiling like really big smile and then Neeraj was just there standing like super sad and i looked at that picture and i was like yeah i know what he's probably thinking right now what's there in when you talk about world what's there in egyptians why yeah like why are they squash was invented in i think in england yeah right and then like they they are not as as good as egyptians right now they've had their face then france had their face, Pakistan had their face.

1:09:07But Egyptians are like just there from 1930s till now they're dominating the game. I mean, I wish I knew what the Egyptians had, but I think it's more of just the infrastructure. I think, I mean, squash is like their cricket. And how India treats cricket here, where it's just madness, that's how it is for Egypt. And I went there last year for an event, for a tournament, and that was the first time I had gone to Egypt and I'd go for my practice sessions in the morning maybe like 8 a.m and I'd also go if my matches ended at like 8 9 p.m I'd see little kids not even older people just kids seven eight years old with coaches in almost every single court 20 courts in the stadium and they're playing for like hours and hours a day with almost every like one kid per coach and I was just like I mean I had never been to Egypt before and I mean of course I'd been playing for almost nine years before that and I never understood what it was I mean everyone would just say okay it's infrastructure but I mean okay what do you mean infrastructure and then I actually got to see it last year and I was just like it's culture that's insane I would go for dinner in clubs or like restaurants and they would have connected squash courts and I'd be sitting and eating like a nice yummy meal of dinner and i'd hear the squash ball playing in the back and i'm like that's just how it is it's culture yeah breeding new players that's just how they they hear about squash they see squash from when they're born and that's just how it is for them and that's the only reason because the entire culture is like and everybody for the hobby and for having fun also they're playing squash only is that the reason i mean yeah i'd say so like in india if you say there's like okay there's maybe 3 000 people playing squash for example there'll be 10 people that are good but in egypt there's 30 000 people playing squash so of course it'll be a lot more that you know out of those 30 000 people the majority that will come out will be a lot more because there's so many more people playing but there's no other reason just about infrastructure and culture do you think is there something else that they have some superior hand maybe genetics or stuff like that or no i mean i don't think it's genetics because i mean it's not that squash requires you to be super strong or you know it requires a certain skill from you anything like that but it's just i think just a certain era maybe did super well in egypt where there are a lot of really good squash players and then you know that inspired generations and generations further but i mean that's been there in almost every country and there's also had that and you know it's every single country England's had that and France has had that but for them it's always been that okay it's been there for a certain amount of years but after a point it's died down and then it's come back and then it's died down but somehow for Egypt it stayed consistent and I mean the only reason I can think of and the only reason I've actually seen is this true because I always wonder like why certain sports are really big in certain countries and i try to find out reasons so i love asking people about this i'm not able to find out a reason around like there for runners we know why in africa there's enough their genetics their culture there's so many things right their legs the way they have the body archetype but your gymnastics we know why specifically european countries and then america has a certain edge but Egypt and squash there's no justification yeah but I think I mean I think athletics is very different because athletics it's not that you need it's not more about skill it's more about your physicality so then genetics plays a huge role there but for squash it's like even if you're super strong okay that's one aspect of it but if you don't have the skill if you don't have the mentality if you don't know like how to you know compose yourself it doesn't matter what's your training day like my training tell me your whole day when you're not in school when i'm not in school then if i'm like if i give an example of prague that's when i'm usually training my hardest i'd have a morning session with my coach what time do you wake up what do you eat what do you do after waking up give me the slow process give me the long time everything i'd usually wake up at around 8 7 38 usually earlier when i'm in prague because i'm in jet i'm jet lagged so it doesn't feel that early for me okay and then um we usually stay in an apartment so i try to make my own breakfast or sometimes my dad my dad makes breakfast and i eat so dad's always there with you in prague yeah usually one of my parents always okay and then uh yeah i go i always have a morning practice session.

1:14:11I have a one-on-one session with my coach in the morning for about one, one and a half hours. Sometimes if I need to get pushed around a little bit, I get a gym session added in the morning as well. But sometimes, I mean, that's usually just three to four days a week. The rest of it, it's just a squash session in the morning. And then I'll have a couple of hours in between where I can go back, rest, eat lunch, and maybe take a nap, but not so much. And And then I end up training. We have group sessions in the evening at around 4 p.m. So if I'm in Prague, usually it ends quite early. So we start at 4 and then we play for an hour and a half till 5.30.

1:14:53And, you know, you mix around, you play with a lot of different players. And yeah, I mean, it ends at 5.30. And I'm usually back in my apartment by 6. And I can just talk to my friends and chill, eat dinner and go to sleep. And then what's the junk you said? You enjoy junk. So this is what you're supposed to eat. I mean, I try to follow this as much as I can. But I always do eat all of this. But I add stuff like chips, chocolates, unhealthy, very fried stuff. What's your favorite food that you love? Like you can eat a lot of it. Like junk. Is pizza considered junk? Pizza. pizza not so much what do you think Anand I'm asking you a question is pizza I don't think so if you're asking me I wouldn't say so what pizza are you eating which pizza do you love okay what's the best pizza Prague okay there's this tell me exact place exact stuff exact thing that you eat it's my favorite pizza pizza in the whole world it's opposite the squash coats it's right opposite at the squash courts it's called Petrin and it's basically it's for the university students there and I didn't expect it to be good at all and I tried the pizza and it was the best pizza I've ever had in my life the perfect thin crust tasting amazing perfect amount of spice and I mean I dream of it literally every time I go there my coach doesn't let me have it so um I have to secretly discuss it with my dad and my dad's like okay Anad you've played well today you can have a little bit of pizza just don't tell greg who's my coach and i'm like okay i won't tell him just let me have the pizza please but can't your coach tell next day because you're performing better or bad worse because of extra carbs it doesn't show it doesn't show unless he's seen me eat and it doesn't show all right so dad being dad spoils you a little and we just like if he feels bad sometimes and i'm like can you just let me have a pizza i've had a really hard day and i'm really hungry he'll fall for it.

1:17:07Okay. So I have just like this is the last section that I want to do. I have like a couple of videos of you where I've seen you not playing the way you do. Okay. I want to ask you what exactly was going in in your head. This is my world number one match. This is a prime. We can definitely discuss that. Okay. What's going on in your head right before one point away. I was so happy. I was like, okay, I'm actually really close to winning the game. And I remember going out quite satisfied because I knew that, you know, I was, I still have two more games. And I could still, you know, if I've done well in the first game, then I can do well.

1:17:48But then I dipped completely in the second. I remember that. I think I got too excited after the first. But then, you know, I realized what I did wrong. And in the third game, I ended up winning that. But the last, let's say, last point where you know this is a game point, right? and you know this is a world champion moment one point away what goes on in your head? like you know that in your blood in your head that you're winning it or you're still nervous and you're still like let's see let's take one point at a time what are you thinking? in the world championships match this match specifically this was in the world championship one though but in this one when I was one point away from the game I mean yeah I didn't really want to think about it because she's also world number one so even if I'm 10 points away from you know like even if it's 10-0 she still can find a way back from it so I didn't really want to think too much and I think it was pretty close it was 10-9 in the game that I was about to win so it was just she was one point away from winning it and it could come from anywhere so I remember I was like trying to just focus on making sure that you know it doesn't go to you know like 10 all because then I'll have to get two more points which is a lot harder especially at that stage because she has a lot more experience and you know winning those kinds of matches that go really really close so I just wanted to make sure that I end it in that point and give it my all there but did you know at that point that you've won it like you're just one point away and you'll win it yeah I did and I think I was getting a bit too excited but I I remember telling myself before I was going to serve that because I've done this way too many times where I've you know been winning and I've lost so I remember telling myself that okay Nahat forget that you're winning just focus on this point and you know it's it's not that I'm winning the match I'm just winning one game so it's like it's just a game I've not you know done anything too big yet.

1:19:47Tell me you're in the finals you're one point away and at that point you usually know that you're winning? if I'm one point away but it again depends on the score though let's say one point away from the game like this is it the other person's maybe two or three points away yeah but I've also once again there's been so many times where I've been leading by six points and I've ended up losing so I've I mean especially why do you lose when you're winning from like you're actually up six points it was something that I do a lot until last year and I ended up doing it in like the same tournament the world juniors in my semi-finals I was up in all three games and I lost all three games and I was not leading by two points it was by four plus points and I don't know like it was always something that I ended up doing because I'd you know get too happy then you know I'm almost at the finish line and I'm almost done and I'd lose focus of you know what I'm actually doing and you know I then I spoke to my coaches after that I spoke I thought about it with myself I re-watched all of those matches again and I mean thankfully I mean ever since then it's not happened but yeah I mean I realized that you know I give it my all in the first five seven points in the first half of the match and then as soon as that happens I completely phase out and I just do whatever I want to do and I forget about the plan and but what did you find out like what specifically you found out was a mistake that that has not happened till now now you said you analyze you saw all these games and then it has not happened again yeah i mean it was just what i was thinking about in my head and then i was just trying to think about solutions as to how i can fix this and i realized this is what actually this is one thing that I started doing and when this all of this started happening where I would reverse the score around where if I was 10-3 up or like make it closer like 10-7 up I'm I've started imagining that I'm actually 7-10 down so I can't let it go now and I always somehow end up playing better if I'm you know losing a bit so then I started this is something that my coach told me and he's like just flip the score around and you know that'll make you play better and there's been many times where I've come back from you know losing a game and there's even been there's been even more times where I've lost from leading a game so it's like it's better if you just flip the score around and if you're leading by a few points if it's of course if it's a large gap then you don't need to worry but if it's like two three points then just flip it around and focus and think that okay you're losing now just give it your all in the next you just have to give like one point and just focus and just make sure that you can get through with this and you know nice so do you do you love winning or do you hate losing

1:22:52i think i hate losing i mean of course everyone loves winning but you the happiness you get from winning is not the same amount of sadness you get from losing so I think it feels a lot the amount that you feel when you lose is nothing compared to how you feel when you win so I'd say losing is like the worst thing that can happen so you don't want to feel like a loser that's why you keep pushing way more than you want to win yeah interesting that's why every athlete is like I'm yet to meet one who's like I love winning I mean of course I love winning I hate losing more exactly everybody says the same thing everyone I meet everyone says it's something maybe every athlete is trained you guys are trained differently you guys are I mean winning is great but it's like you win and that sticks with you for a few days but if you lose that sticks with you forever yeah do you know because you were talking about losing and winning do you because you're racket sport right do you watch tennis not so much okay not so much but do you know Djokovic yeah Federer yeah so you know Djokovic whenever he's at the game point in his entire life only four times he has lost from there he has never lost if he reaches the game point and Grand Slam he has never lost never lost if he reaches the final point and Federer he has lost 24 times I feel more like Federer right now I've already lost it like 20 times so I'm closer to him and they both were like because and they both think differently because some like one of the coaches was saying that because Federer when he's at the game point he starts saying like I should do nothing wrong right now exactly yeah and that's why he ends up doing wrong and Djokovic thinks when he's at the final point like I've done this is great day I've done everything right now I know I'm winning so at the final point he's already thought that he's won yeah and that's why he ended up winning more and at Federer his last point was like this is the precious point I should not do wrong I should not do wrong that's how I feel so you feel like that more yeah you don't think that because you're close to final you've won it already yeah I mean I'm learning to feel more like that but I mean the last one year I've felt more like Federer they both are champions whatever work for you whoever as long as I end up accomplishing even slightly the amount he did amazing well all the best thank you so much here's the last question we end up asking everybody but you've already covered but i'm still gonna go ask you that what's the cost or like what cost did you pay to become a world champion missing out on life not getting to meet my family as much and like staying with them as much and you know going to school and experiencing the regular teenage life but i mean I don't mind it I get to travel the world and not everyone gets to do that so it has its very good sides and bad sides as well but I have to appreciate the good ones right now true do you do you really appreciate the good ones more I'm starting to I didn't until recently but then I realized that it's okay like I'm very grateful that I am where I am and not everyone gets to you know be an athlete and experience what it's like to be an athlete.

1:26:26True. Yeah, I'm happy that I am. And I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't imagine my life without this. So even if I say that I want to live the regular life, I'd say that for one week, but after a week I'd come back for this life. So... Fair. Well, thank you so much. Thank you. It was a pleasure having you. Thank you. You're the chocolate for you. I'm just talking so quickly. I'm just talking about it for a minute to go. That's the one you like.

1:26:56Have you ever actually calculated or seen or maybe tracked that when you're always on versus when you're off and on, like which time are you performing better? Yeah, I mean, if I'm focusing too much on squash, then I get too overwhelmed. So I like to balance it out. And then you're not performing well? I mean, I don't perform as good as I would if I was doing everything together. Oh, nice. And what's everything for you? like meeting my friends and family I like to do other things otherwise I get too focused on just squash and it's too stressful okay give me a list of all the other things that you like I mean first meeting my friends and family and I like to paint as well play the piano and I go I've started learning how to drive so now I start going on drives if I'm too stressed how old are you now I just turned 18 okay so now you can drive legally yeah thank you so much for watching this episode till the end we would love to know what you liked or disliked about this episode and which guest you would like to see again on this show or which are the new guests that you want to see let us know in the comments your feedback helps us improve and make every episode a little better i'll see you the next time until then keep figuring out

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(0:00) - Intro
(3:14) - How She Started Squash at 8 & Won Her First Junior Title
(5:30) - Is Squash an Identity or an Escape?
(8:42) - Playing Through a Serious Ankle Injury in Australia
(13:18) - Why Does Losing While Injured Feel So Difficult?
(18:09) - Mental Strength, Pressure & Team Events
(22:33) - Guilty Pleasures: Dairy Milk & Reels
(25:32) - Superstitions, Lucky Outfits & Pre-Point Rituals
(32:22) - Why Is She a Terrible Loser? Crying & Arguing With Parents
(42:40) - How Does She Rank Herself Among Her Rivals?
(44:28) - Missing Her Graduation for a Match Against World No. 1
(47:08) - Her Aggressive Playing Style vs. Traditional Squash
(52:10) - What Silly Mistake Made Her Lose a Match?
(57:48) - Her First Commonwealth Games at 14
(1:04:44) - What Is Her Pre-Match Routine?
(1:06:55) - Why Does Silver Hurt More Than Bronze?
(1:08:44) - Why Does Egypt Dominate World Squash?
(1:13:20) - A Day in Her Training Life in Prague
(1:17:08) - Reviewing Her World No. 1 Match Point by Point
(1:22:46) - Why Does She Fear Losing More Than She Loves Winning?
(1:25:34) - The Personal Cost of Chasing a World Championship
(1:26:46) - BTS
(1:27:49) - Outro



In today’s episode, we sit down with Anahat Singh, India’s top-ranked woman squash player and the newly crowned World Junior Squash Champion, who at just 18 has made history by becoming the first Indian to win the title, ending Egypt’s 16-year hold on the girls’ singles championship.


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