1035. Insights: Six predictions that will reshape customer experience in financial services

5 Feb 2026 · 55 min · 23 chapters

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Episode Title

1035. Insights: Six Predictions that Will Reshape Customer Experience in Financial Services

Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts delve into six key predictions for the evolution of user experience (UX) in financial services by 2026, drawing insights from the latest 11:FS Pulse report. The discussion focuses on how digital banking, customer experience, onboarding, product design, and user research are set to change.

Hosts and Guests

  • Ross Gallagher - Head of Consulting at 11:FS
  • Joe Colchester - Head of Product at 11:FS Pulse
  • Oliwia Wasik - UX Research Analyst at 11:FS Pulse
  • Evan Simmonds - Principal Product Designer at Up

Key Predictions for Financial Services UX

  1. The Shift from Insights to Action in AI
  2. Overview: The most significant impact of AI by 2027 will be its ability to take actions based on insights, rather than just providing them.
  3. Key Points:
  4. AI will triage issues, allocate funds, and trigger preventative measures without requiring user intervention.
  5. Current tools are moving towards execution but are not quite there yet.
  6. Users will need to set defined parameters for AI actions to retain control.
  1. Investing as a New Battleground
  2. Overview: By 2026, investing will be integrated within everyday banking applications, making it easier for users to access investing options.
  3. Key Points:
  4. Companies like Monzo and Chase are already moving in this direction, reflecting an appetite for embedded investment opportunities.
  5. Emotional barriers, such as fear of loss, remain significant, and financial institutions need to reframe investing as an extension of saving.
  6. Guidance and simplified access to low-risk investing options can enhance user engagement.
  1. Pensions as an Untapped Engagement Opportunity
  2. Overview: There is a critical need for pension providers to shift focus from abstract balances to lifestyle-oriented progress.
  3. Key Points:
  4. Users care primarily about whether their pension will support their desired lifestyle.
  5. Addressing the branding problem associated with pensions is essential for increasing engagement.
  6. Emotional messaging to connect with users' aspirations is crucial.
  1. Emergence of Prediction Markets
  2. Overview: Prediction markets are rising and could blur the lines between trading and gambling by 2027.
  3. Key Points:
  4. They allow users to bet on real-world outcomes, creating a controversial space.
  5. There is a need for responsible design to mitigate the risks associated with gambling behavior.
  1. Stablecoins in Financial Infrastructure
  2. Overview: By 2027, stablecoins will become integral to financial infrastructure, enhancing payment systems without users needing to engage with the complexities of cryptocurrency.
  3. Key Points:
  4. Examples include Visa settling payments using USDC, indicating a behind-the-scenes integration.
  5. While they offer efficiency, there are concerns over irretrievable transactions and the need for regulatory oversight.
  1. Wealth Management and Personalization
  2. Overview: The next wave of competition in wealth management will focus on integrating personalized services into banking apps.
  3. Key Points:
  4. Customers expect more personalized guidance and support for their financial decisions.
  5. The integration of AI tools and personalized nudges can help users manage their money more effectively.

Conclusion The hosts and guests emphasized the importance of evolving UX in financial services, leveraging technology and understanding users' needs to enhance engagement and trust. As the industry moves towards 2026, embracing these predictions could lead to significant advancements in how users interact with their finances.

Additional Resources

  • Download the 2026 11:FS Pulse Report for in-depth insights.
  • Connect with the hosts and guests on LinkedIn for further discussion and networking opportunities.

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Chapters

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Investment Landscape in the UK

0:00 to 0:32

Learn about the current state of retail investment in the UK and the need for change.

“Retail investment in the UK is the lowest in the G7.”

The Importance of User Experience

1:18 to 2:10

Explore the vital role of user experience in fintech and its evolution towards 2026.

“But as we enter 2026, financial services UX is entering a new phase.”

Introducing the Expert Panel

2:10 to 3:06

Meet the panel of experts discussing the Pulse report and user experience.

“So first up, we have my 11FS colleague and 11FS Pulse Report author, Joe Colchester, head of product at 11FS Pulse.”

Insights from Joe Colchester

3:06 to 4:22

Learn about Joe Colchester's experience working on the Pulse report and its unique features.

“we have the second author of the report, Olivia Vasek, UX Research Analyst at 11FS Pulse.”

Understanding UX Research

4:22 to 5:38

Olivia Vasek discusses her role in researching user experiences in digital banking.

“so it's nice to have a cool day today but Up is doing great.”

Evan Simmons on Onboarding Experience

5:38 to 7:38

Evan Simmons shares insights on the importance of onboarding and user journey at Up.

“So, yeah, really appreciate that and the kind words too.”

AI's Role in Financial Services

7:38 to 9:10

Explore the predictions regarding AI's impact on financial services and user control.

“So in the first half, we're going to dive into three predictions that are going to directly change what users see, do, and feel.”

Designing User-Friendly AI

9:10 to 10:34

Discussing the design considerations for AI to ensure user control and understanding.

“You know, I think this isn't, we're not necessarily talking about you sort of just give, you give the AI complete control over every part of your life.”

User Trust in AI Actions

10:34 to 12:39

Exploring user acceptance of AI actions in personal finance and the importance of clarity.

“So I don't think we can really let an agent sort of take on responsibility for the customer without first sort of starting with what they're trying to achieve.”

Balancing Automation and Human Support

12:39 to 14:00

The importance of pairing AI automation with human support in financial services.

“that I think trust drops sharply and frustration raises when action happens without explanation or crucially the possibility to undo it.”
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Investing as a New Battleground for Banking Apps

14:00 to 14:48

Learn about the emerging trend of integrating investment features into banking apps.

“is we have invested a lot into that human support side of things.”

Emotional Barriers to Investing

14:48 to 19:13

Explore the emotional barriers that prevent people from investing and how brands can help.

“but I'm going to move us on to our next one So the next prediction from the report that we want to dive into is that investing will become a new battleground for banking apps.”

Building Confidence in Investing

19:13 to 23:00

Understand how to foster a sense of security and confidence in novice investors.

“So that really helps to reduce that anxiety and build confidence without pushing users faster than they're ready to go.”

The Untapped Opportunity in Pensions

23:00 to 25:49

Discuss why pensions are often overlooked and how to engage users effectively.

“So our final prediction is pensions remain the biggest untapped engagement opportunity.”

Emotional Messaging in Financial Products

25:49 to 28:00

Learn how emotional messaging can improve engagement with financial products.

“It's good to be optimistic when it comes to our predictions and sort of hope that we start to see some movement towards some real sort of financial, solving for some real financial problems.”

Understanding the Emotional Connection to Money

28:00 to 31:38

Exploration of how emotional factors influence financial decisions and the role of design in connecting with younger generations.

“Yeah, it's kind of interesting actually because we have quite a different environment in Australia.”

Preparing for the Future of Financial Services

31:38 to 32:26

Discussion of upcoming regulatory changes and opportunities in Australia related to superannuation and financial planning.

“I think there are some ways of approaching it, which is just to visualize it more.”

Emergence of Prediction Markets in Financial Services

33:34 to 40:51

Analysis of prediction markets, their implications for finance, and the blurred lines between trading and gambling.

“in this half, we're going to look at some of the big infrastructure shifts that could redefine how people interact with financial services.”

The Role of Stablecoins as Financial Infrastructure

40:51 to 42:00

Examining how stablecoins may reshape payments and financial transactions without users needing to engage with crypto directly.

“Colch, I mean, this feels bang on trend.”

The Role of Stablecoins in Financial Transactions

42:00 to 45:32

Discussion on the implications and user benefits of stablecoins in international transfers.

“But I think it will play an important role.”

User Expectations in Wealth Management

45:33 to 48:20

Exploring the shift in user expectations for personalized wealth management services.

“Prevention becomes a really big thing, but it's hard.”

Challenges of Digitalizing Financial Advice

48:21 to 51:42

Examining the complexities and challenges of integrating digital advice in financial services.

“I think it's so interesting because, and that comparison to, you know, what's happening in other apps and maybe in other industries.”

The Future of AI in Financial Services

51:43 to 53:08

Predictions about the rise of AI agents in personal finance and their potential impact.

“Is that it's almost like a sort of a bonus prediction?”
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0:00Retail investment in the UK is the lowest in the G7. According to the Bank of England, there is over£280 billion sitting in UK accounts earning no interest. Something has to change. Financial firms in the UK must look at making investing accessible, contextual and trusted through everyday platforms. That means bringing investment journeys to the point of need, alongside spending, saving and budgeting, and within platforms that already play a meaningful role in customers' lives. We dive into this and more in our latest report, Taking Advantage of the Embedding Investing Opportunity, produced in association with SECL.

0:42Download your copy today at alumnafest.com forward slash embedded hyphen investing.

1:03Hello, welcome to Fintech Insider Insights. I'm Ross Gallagher, Head of Consulting here at 11FS. As we all know, user experience is vital in fintech. It's an important part of what set apart brands like Monzo, Revolut, Nubank and up from incumbent banks in the first place. But as we enter 2026, financial services UX is entering a new phase. It's no longer just about making products easier to use. It's about designing experiences that help people feel confident, informed, and in control of increasingly complex financial decisions, particularly in the shadow of what is now a very uncertain time in the world.

1:39Today's episode is entirely forward-looking. We're sharing six predictions taken from our brand new 11FS Pulse report, diving into how we think user experience in financial services will evolve over the next year, based on the patterns we're seeing across product design, user research, and the wider industry. To help us do so, I have a great panel of guests featuring both the authors of the report, as well as a product leader from one of our favorite banking brands, who we've not only raved about in the report, but given a Pulse Star Award for their excellent onboarding journey. So first up, we have my 11FS colleague and 11FS Pulse Report author, Joe Colchester, head of product at 11FS Pulse.

2:18Joe, first of all, congrats on the release of the 11FS Pulse report. It's always very exciting. How did you find working on the report? Great to be here, Ross. Yeah, working on the report was a lot of fun, actually. It's always fun looking back, but also looking forward and trying to be bold about the predictions coming. And it's an exciting time to be reviewing the world of fintech and financial services. So yeah, it was very fun. We also had an additional section to this year's report where we would mark our last year's predictions, which kind of raised the stakes a little bit, holding ourselves a bit more accountable.

2:52So that was quite a fun element to it. Yeah, I love that. Who doesn't love a prediction? I think it's always easier when you're looking forward than looking back though or grading yourself. But no, really looking forward to getting into the detail of the report. So great to have you coach. Also joining us today, we have the second author of the report, Olivia Vasek, UX Research Analyst at 11FS Pulse. Olivia, great to have you on the show. Maybe you could just tell our listeners a little bit about your role specifically within 11FS Pulse. Yeah, of course. Thank you. Very nice to be here. So I'm a UX research analyst here at 11FS Pulse, where I work in understanding how digital banking products actually behave when people use them in the real world and how people experience them and also how we can maybe make them a bit better.

3:37Love that because it's such an important distinction, you know, how we think things are going to sort of work and how we think people are going to interact with them and then how people actually do when they're sort of out in the wild. So, yeah, looking forward to sort of diving in and thanks for coming on, Olivia, and sharing your expertise and your perspectives. And next up, we have a brilliant guest from a brand that UX, we never stop raving about. It's a very welcome return to the show for Evan Simmons, a principal product designer at Up. Evan, welcome back. It's great to have you. And thanks for joining us all the way from Australia.

4:10I dread to think what time it is there. but how are things going at Up? Yeah, really good, thank you. It's actually not too bad. It's about nine o 'clock here at the moment. It's been hot recently so it's nice to have a cool day today but Up is doing great. Yeah, we're pushing past 1.2 million customers at the moment. Many of them are younger Aussies, still the highest rating banking app in Australia. We have really high referral rates which is amazing and yeah, we've got an exciting milestone coming up with our join accounts, which we call 2UP. We're about to hit 100 ,000. So yeah, it's starting to see some real progress, I guess, in the multiplayer space that we've been focusing on.

4:54I think last time I was on, I was talking about Groups, which is our other multiplayer play, which had just launched. So yeah. Yeah, it's incredible. And like the approach that you guys take to design that sort of interactivity, I think is really, really cool. I mean, I mentioned at the top that you guys got a Pulse Star Award in the report for that sort of amazing onboarding experience. It was called a quote, beacon of inspiration for banks looking to prioritize simplicity, establish a distinct tone of voice and avoid drop-off. I mean, that's high praise. I'd love to sort of get your perspectives on, I suppose, how important that sort of onboarding journey is to up and maybe a sort of an ingredient to you guys' success.

5:36Yeah, of course. Well, first of all, thank you very much for the award. We're very honored to receive it. So, yeah, really appreciate that and the kind words too. Yeah, onboarding, it's like it's a critical part of, you know, the entire journey with customers. So, look, if we think about why it's the moment, it's really about the momentum that customers have when they're signing up. We know that that's the point where they have that highest motivation to, I guess, try and understand how, you know, the product promise is actually going to relate to helping them. So, yeah, we put a lot of energy into that.

6:16And I think one area, like I said before, we have a lot of referral. One area where we try and, I guess, really shine a little bit more in our sign-up experience is just being a bit more relatable to customers as well. We know that we're different from the traditional banks, like a lot of neo banks are, and we want to try and get some of that personality across. So, yeah, I guess you probably put it to two things. Like we try and focus very much on speed and efficiency. So making sure that like we really help customers sort of step through the flow quickly, get through the boring bits without really thinking about them and like natural language and, you know, making sure that really flows is important to us.

6:55But then on the other side of that, it's like those little moments where we can give them those little sort of dopamine hits of encouragement to keep going. So like when they get the account, you know, we have this little moment. We call it a little up year moment, which is just a little celebration that they're here and that they're going to receive something that's quite different. So yeah, it's a big part of our experience. We have a team almost totally dedicated to it now. So yeah. Really cool. I mean, that first impression is so important, isn't it? Absolutely. So, no, congrats. All right, well, look, that's our panel.

7:28So I guess listeners settle in. We're going to get into it. I think if you're a product nerd, and we assume that listening to this, you probably are, this one's going to be a good one. So in the first half, we're going to dive into three predictions that are going to directly change what users see, do, and feel. Our first prediction is that by 2027, the most meaningful shift in AI won't be better insights. it will be action. So rather than analyzing decisions or offering recommendations, AI agents will increasingly carry them out within defined parameters, triaging issues, reallocating funds, adjusting plans, or triggering preventative measures.

8:09Joe, I mean, it wouldn't be any sort of prediction show worth its wait if we weren't talking about AI. From a Pulse perspective, do you think we're already seeing teams move beyond AI insights more towards execution? Yeah, I think we are, but I think it's not gone very far. I think it could go a lot further. We're seeing some intelligent things like kind of suggesting things through prompts about smart decisions you can make. But what we're not seeing is extensive actions and steps to take kind of sophisticated decisions on users' behalf that they can sign off. I think that's what's coming next.

8:47I think it will be disappointing if that doesn't happen this year. So we've got a few examples where actions are being taken, but they're pretty slimmed down at this stage. I think that it's a cautionary approach and that's the right one. But I think that's definitely on the horizon. I think that'll be the most exciting thing to see out of AI this year. And Kulsh, I think one of the key things that stands out for me about the way that we've sort of teed this up is the bit about within defined parameters. You know, I think this isn't, we're not necessarily talking about you sort of just give, you give the AI complete control over every part of your life.

9:26You go to bed, you wake up the next morning and it's done all sorts of things, right? We're talking about, you know, within very strict controls. Yeah, exactly. I think those need to be set to begin with. So kind of authorizing the app to do that on your behalf, but then also sign off at the end. It's a very risky state where things are all happening autonomously without any authorization and then final sign off. I think those two things have to be clear. And I think that the best UX will come out of how that's most intelligently done in a kind of very easy way. Yeah, so Evan, seems a sort of natural point to sort of bring you in.

10:07I suppose from a design perspective, how do you start to think about creating some of those guardrails that let AI act while still making users feel sort of like they're informed, they're in control and can sort of, I suppose, push the pause button at any moment? Yeah, it's a really good question and something that, you know, we're really starting to think about a lot now too. I think it sort of starts with understanding, I guess, their goals are intense. So I don't think we can really let an agent sort of take on responsibility for the customer without first sort of starting with what they're trying to achieve.

10:42And we do that a lot with like saving. We have savings goals, savings like, you know, people, a lot of our customers are quite young and are looking for experiences like holidays and things like that. So there's certainly like areas that we can play in that I guess you could consider fairly low risk, which I think is a really smart way to approach it. I think there's sort of like some, maybe some tiers to autonomy. So, you know, if we're talking about a customer who, for instance, is saving for a trip to Japan next year, you know, they've got a date in mind, they've got a destination, you know, you can help them understand the costs involved.

11:22But something like that is like, you know, when we're very big on automation around paydays, so, you know, if we can see that there is surplus at the end of a pay cycle, they're the kind of perfect opportunities where we could be like, all right, well, that's a fairly low stakes thing to take some of that money and shift it towards that goal. Whereas something that's far higher stake, like moving money to external investment accounts or, you know, maybe a new contact, they're the kind of things where I think you have to put a lot more, I guess, customer control in place, if that makes sense, or, yeah, a lot more stages of...

11:59That idea of tiered controls definitely resonates, you know, and making sure, I like what you said about sort of really understanding that risk factor and making sure that that's obviously factored in in terms of how you design out those tierings. Olivia I'm really interested in you know how do we how do users if we think about sort of right now how do users feel about I suppose handing over some control over some actions when it comes to you know personal finances and money yeah I think people like the idea of AI taking friction away you know making things easier and smoother for them but just to echo what everybody else has that I think trust drops sharply and frustration raises when action happens without explanation or crucially the possibility to undo it.

12:51So users are generally able to accept really even drastic actions like automatically freezing cards or flagging suspicious transactions because they understand that this is done in their interest and on their behalf. But no one wants to be stuck in an AI loop from hell You know, when this action was taken mistakenly or something went wrong, you don't want to then be referred to another AI agent who doesn't understand the peculiarities of your own situation and cannot help you. So tight, visible boundaries, but also recourse for when things go wrong. I think these are the two crucial things. Yeah, I mean, they're such important points.

13:33And I suppose, Evan, just coming back to you really quickly on the point around design, you know what Olivia says about being caught in a sort of AI loop from hell, as much as we're focusing on sort of AI and the potential upsides when it comes to automation, all of those sorts of things, I suppose that has to be paired with some human support where there are those sort of, you know, high stress, high anxiety, sort of high impact moments. And yeah, absolutely. And I mean, that's probably one of our strengths is we have invested a lot into that human support side of things. And we really sort of focus on that feeling very relatable and approachable.

14:13And so I guess if customers know that that support's there, like the hard problems are much easier for them to reach out to us. but yeah I mean also you need to visibility and the ability to just switch things off is obviously going to be quite crucial as well support is not always immediate we'd like it to be but yeah Love it, I mean this is the great thing about the Pulse report I suppose the format for the show is I think any one of these predictions we could talk about for the entire show so it may feel a little bit swift but I'm going to move us on to our next one So the next prediction from the report that we want to dive into is that investing will become a new battleground for banking apps.

14:58So in 2026, we're expecting investing to be sort of normalized inside everyday banking apps. You're blurring those lines between saving and investing through low friction guided experiences. Colch, look from a pulse perspective. Are we already starting to see some early sort of signals of things heading in this direction? Yeah, I think we are. I think Monzo were quite an early mover here and they've done very well in simplifying their product offering when it comes to investments. I mean, for example, Zopa, a recent entry into the market, they're offering investment off the get-go to, you know, suggesting that that's something that there's an appetite for.

15:38Chase UK further integrating Nutmeg. So I think that's a good example from the UK, but also further afield, I think Newbank are doing something similar as well where, yeah, they are integrating these investment products, often simplified, which is probably a good thing, and there's some momentum there. And there's momentum in terms of the product releases, but also I think the behavior around it. People finding actually they do have some surplus money, their interest rates might not be very good. There is encouragement, whether it's a policy from within a country about investing actually is being more encouraged.

16:16So I think there is momentum building as current accounts and banking apps start introducing these features. So I think that's something where, I think that that will be a new battleground. I think something to look out for though is that a lot of existing trading platforms, things like Trading212 and Robinhood, for example, they're starting to offer prepaid cards. So it's interesting that it's happening from both sides and often the perks from these trading platforms when it comes to current accounts can be, sorry, prepaid cards can be quite significant. So the race is coming from both sides, not just from banks, but also from trading platforms themselves to whenever customers.

16:59Yeah, super interesting. I've been kind of saying for a while, I think investments have a bit of a personal branding problem. All we've talked about for a really long time is the risks and the value of your investment might go down as well as up. But I feel like we're starting to shift away from that a little bit. Absolutely, the examples that you gave, you know, making investments options available in the sort of like the everyday sort of mobile banking experience. The Zobe example is a really good one where they're partnering with Invesco to make their funds available and sort of making it more accessible because it is a great tool for certain people to sort of grow their wealth, etc.

17:36Etc. Olivia, you know, from the user research that you've seen, what emotional barriers though still exist around investing? And I suppose, have you seen any good examples where brands are starting to try and counteract that? Yeah, I think the biggest emotional barriers are fear of loss, fear of getting it wrong, a sense that investing is something for other people. Culture plays a huge part of it, I I think that is often overlooked. You know, Americans overall are better than Europeans at investing. Western Europe is better than Eastern and Central Europe. So when you're designing these products, I think culture is something to keep in mind.

18:18I think many users still associate investing with high-risk insider knowledge, irreversible mistakes, you know, losing all of your money, quite drastic, like big things. so what works well is actually reframing investments as an extension and a continuation of saving better than you know a large leap into something completely unfamiliar so what works really well from the examples that we've seen is brands that focus on guidance really small steps plain language and progress over time rather than kind of performance obsession So features that normalize small, low stakes entry points and try to keep users engaged and really calm, right?

19:08To not dump those investments when the market takes a downturn and so on. So that really helps to reduce that anxiety and build confidence without pushing users faster than they're ready to go. Yeah, I love that. The cultural point is so interesting because, you know, so much of that is kind of inherent, isn't it? And almost like generational and the difference between the sort of different parts of the world and their sort of their mentality towards it is so interesting. Um, but totally understand what you're saying about those sort of maybe more like iterative sort of like behavioral design techniques, starting with a little bit sort of growing it over time, all of that sort of stuff.

19:47Um, Evan, are you guys seeing a sort of a growing demand from customers for investing and I suppose to sort of, to live alongside that sort of like that everyday money side of things. Yeah, definitely. I think we see like sort of to echo those points from Olivia, we see I guess passive investing is an extension on savings. So the way we've typically thought about it is, yeah, investing for young people is potentially either a scary thing or something that can almost borderline gambling at some points when I guess we think about crypto and other sort of assets like that that seem to bounce up and down so much that it becomes very speculative.

20:31So we think a lot about our customers and their financial well-being and thinking about how we help them, I guess, increase that knowledge and make better decisions without having to do too much of the hard work. We call it, you know, easy money, but I think where investing really fits nicely for our customers is in that sort of low risk ETF kind of part of the market. So if we can present that sort of thing to them in a way that is really easy to understand and to understand that it is low risk, then that's really important. But I think the other point is like there's a bit of a friction sort of paradox with investing And that is like we want to make it super easy for customers to get that money into that sort of passive investing.

21:21But if they're going to keep dipping in and taking it straight back out, then they're losing all of those gains. You know, it'll go to tax, etc. So if we can kind of really reduce that friction to zero when getting into the market, if that's like micro investing, but we can make it a lot harder for them or make them think a lot harder about taking that money out, then that's the kind of thing that we would prioritize. So, I mean, what that means in practice is probably, you know, more like creating a front end that doesn't talk to, like Olivia said, doesn't talk to like market changes. It looks to the long term.

21:56It tries to talk to that future you rather than the person who's investing today. And making sure that we're introducing at the right time as well. There's no point a customer investing if they haven't got that sort of savings buffer in the first place. So like, you know, making sure it fits is really important. Yeah. I think that's such an important point. You can't talk about investing in isolation. I think you need to know that you've got that emergency fund there that means that if for whatever reason you do need quick access to cash, then it's there and you're not pulling it out of investments and you sort of set up in a way to enable that sort of longer term sort of investment strategy that I think is really so important.

22:39And I think probably, you know, pairing that then alongside some of the stuff that Olivia was talking about around guidance and sort of education and helping build, helping people build those sort of, um, those, those better financial habits and behaviors and moving away from the more speculative end of it towards that sort of that, that longer term view. I'm going to move this on. So our final prediction is pensions remain the biggest untapped engagement opportunity. Now, we said in the report that pensions hold enormous value, but engagement remains incredibly low. We believe that only changes when providers shift from abstract balances to lifestyle-led progress and reassurance.

23:22Olivia, I'll come to you first on this one. And again, from your research, what do users sort of actually want to know about their pension? What do they care about? I think it's surprisingly simple. It's just, am I going to be okay? So, you know, people don't care about fund names, contribution mechanics, the squabblings over legislation and so on. It's more about whether their pension is going to support the kind of lifestyle and the life they imagine themselves to have. so really they want kind of reassurance clarity and progress that they can understand like you said in you know in in life cycle and in lifestyle terms rather than charts and progresses and so on yeah yeah so interesting i think you're spot on i think when it comes to it's so difficult almost to sort of like crack a lot of the language and the positioning around pensions because it does focus on things like the mechanics and portfolios and all of that sort of stuff rather than where does this get me to in retirement and is that going to enable a comfortable lifestyle?

24:30Um, coach, why do you think, you know, people don't tend to engage or seemingly don't tend to really think about or care very much about pensions relative to almost any other financial product? Yeah, I think it's one of the sort of most longstanding branding problems in financial services where you can't mention pensions without someone sighing quite deeply and wanting to move on really quickly. And I think it's got that branding problem because it's so long term. It's never been presented as something that's particularly interesting or worthwhile to dig into. It's so removed. And I think that is addressable by communicating it in the right way.

25:17And yeah, so it's got that, you know, it's not a problem right now, so I don't have to think about it. But actually, there's good product decisions to be made. There's a lot of guidance that should be there and people just put it at the back of their mind. And I think, I don't think we're going to see a lot of progress this year, but maybe there'll be a couple of trailblazers who kind of, who integrate it more interestingly, present the facts and the kind of decisions that people should be making in a more compelling way. That's more of a hope than an expectation. Yeah, I like that though. It's good to be optimistic when it comes to our predictions and sort of hope that we start to see some movement towards some real sort of financial, solving for some real financial problems.

26:02I don't know how many times or if we've ever really referenced Jimmy Carr on the show, but I saw a really good clip where, for anyone that doesn't know, he routinely gets sort of heckled at his show. people shout out random questions and they so the the sort of question that was shouted out was you know what what what what piece of advice would you give and he said well if you distill down the key messages from basically every self-help book that's ever been written and pretty much all of the major religions it boils down to um prioritize later so the whole thing is just like make a sacrifice and how that gets you in a better place um later on but i think understanding that as a concept but then you know sort of putting things in place that sort of counteract what is human nature which is i'm going to prioritize right now aren't necessarily the same thing um evan if you were designing a pension experience today oh yeah of course olivia come on in jump in on that um thank you sorry it's just um i think it's interesting because there's there are very difficult things to engage with for young people and older people for different reasons so it would nice to see some sort of you know emotional messaging around those because i think for younger generation there is a sense of financial nihilism it's the kind of like well i see the kind of lifestyle that my parents have unavailable to me and so what does it matter if i have a pension or not then you know i might as well spend this money or not care and for the older generation it's really a lot of anxiety about aging and uncertain future and you know your productive like your work life coming to an end um so it's it's it's such an overlooked product and it's interesting because we've managed to rebrand fitness right like 10 years ago nobody cared about fitness but now everybody understands that you need to lift and you need to like really take care of yourself so that you can um lead a nice healthy life until you're old age yeah and it started with such a simple concept like 10 ,000 steps and it kind of grows from there right but you're so right I mean um connecting with people particularly about lifestyle and retirement and those types of things on an emotional level because all of that is money is inherently emotional um but also then I suppose contextualizing it in the brutal realities of you know what the sort of financial future that different generations are facing into because they are entirely different um as you say I think those are incredible um incredible points does Does that sort of resonate, Evan, with you as well from a design perspective?

28:37Yeah, it's kind of interesting actually because we have quite a different environment in Australia. I don't think we can say this too often, but we're probably kind of world leaders in this one little niche. Love that. Congrats. So, Australia has superannuation as a compulsory thing linked to your salary. So you're getting paid 12 % of your salary every time you get paid into your super. So we've kind of removed a lot of the, I guess, the need to encourage people to start doing it because it's just happening automatically in the background. So the bigger problem or maybe the bigger opportunity is probably more around, it's very similar to investing really.

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29:25It's like super is actually very similar to, you know, passive investment, except it actually has the added benefit of not being able to remove that money until you're retired. So it's in some ways that sort of perfect product where it's easy to get in because you're automatically getting in. There's actually a lot of tax benefits to contributing as well. So it's probably the first thing that you look to do outside of, say, you know, saving for a home deposit is like seeing how I can save on tax through super contributions. So in Australia, it's more about like how can we help customers sort of take ownership of it and actually not neglect all of those savings that they could be making through super.

30:10So some problems are still the same, though. Like it's still like people can't imagine, you know, young customers can't imagine their future self. So there's some really good regulation that's coming in this year, actually, in Australia around making sure that your super is paid on your payday as opposed to paid quarterly. So there's an opportunity there to really start linking that super contribution with your pay. So, you know, you could be talking about your salary today and your salary for that future you and the lifestyle that affords. So, yeah, there's heaps of opportunity actually. And sorry, I could probably go on about it.

30:50But there are also players that are doing some really interesting things around, you know, aligning super and where that money goes to their values as well. Future super is a great example of that in Australia. So, yeah, pretty fertile ground here at the moment. So, we're certainly thinking about it. Look, I think as an industry when it comes to pensions, I don't think we've been ambitious enough. we've almost kind of been defeatist. I think we've kind of gone, oh, people don't really get pensions and they don't really care about it. Like, it is what it is. That's a shame. And then we've just sort of carried on.

31:22But I think back to everything that you guys have said, I think like if this is even just like a small call to arms to that corner of financial services that says, guys, I think we can do a lot better here. Then I think definitely, definitely worthwhile, Coach, to your point. All right. So look in, oh yeah, go on. Nice and quick though. Oh, sorry. I think there are some ways of approaching it, which is just to visualize it more. I think we saw that from the likes of Tembo when it came to mortgages, which is to make seemingly distant objectives actually achievable by kind of breaking it down into individual parts, whether it's certain life goals and how that might relate to pensions.

32:03I think there is a user interface solution to that that we're not quite seeing at the moment. Couldn't agree more. All right, look, in this half, we have talked about the changes that we think will directly shape how users interact with their banking apps. After the break, we're going to zoom out and we're going to look at the infrastructure shifts that are quietly reshaping financial services, UX, often without users even realizing it. So stick with us, don't go anywhere. We'll be back very shortly. Hey folks, if you're anything like us, you're on the road constantly. Airports, hotels, conference centers, half the time the Wi-Fi feels as safe as shouting, my pin is 1234 across the departures lounge.

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34:08Coach, I think, look, when it comes to prediction markets, probably a fairly new phenomenon. For anyone who hasn't heard of them, maybe you can give us a quick sort of 101, what are they and who are the major players? Yeah, pretty new phenomenon that have really rocket shipped into action actually. So all eyes on prediction markets at the moment. As you say, they basically let people trade on real world outcomes, like elections or economic events, sports events, right until very, very seemingly meaningless kind of will it happen, will it not moments that can often be user created. So it's essentially gambling products placed within trading and investment platforms.

34:53And key players, things like Kalshi, Polymarket, Robinhood, and from the kind of sports angle and things like DraftKings, but I think they're more emerging. And they're gaining a lot of visibility and they kind of sit in that awkward position between finance and gambling. And that's why everyone's talking about them because they might not have the same guardrails that should be in place for gambling because they exist within trading platforms. Evan, I think it's interesting because there's definite parallels to maybe some of the more speculative behaviors that we talked about when we were talking about investments.

35:30You know, that sort of that gambling angle is always controversial. I'm interested in, I suppose, again, from a design point of view, are there areas we can take from within sort of existing financial services or gambling UX that we can start to maybe just note this in a more responsible direction? Yeah, sure. I'm going to start by saying I had not heard of prediction markets until I saw this podcast. So this was totally new to me. And then I saw them everywhere. I was watching the UFC on the weekend and there's polymarket everywhere. I'm like, wow, okay. It's a thing. Okay. Yeah. When you know, you know, right.

36:13I'm certainly not going to come to this with an air of authority, but I can obviously try and, you know, through that limited research, try and understand what's going on here. So I think there's something there. Like I kind of understand it. Like this whole wisdom of the crowd, like if there's enough that's being made on either end, then somehow there's some sort of truth in the middle there. I mean, I'm still trying to fully understand what that means, but it sounds like there is like an actual benefit to be made through these markets. But they just look like that guy walking down the street with you who just wants to put a wager on everything.

36:56So, yeah, I would say looking at what is out there today and thinking about the word responsible, I think you would look to gambling as what not to do and start to look at if you were to make a responsible one and you were to try and, I guess, bring forward the benefits of placing serious bets on things to try and help, you know, forecast what might happen, then I would say like get rid of, interrupt that animal brain as much as possible and remove all those, you know, adrenaline and dopamine cues that you see. You know, we don't need trending, you know, you don't need a million different things that you can wager on.

37:39I think if you can sort of start removing a lot of the, you know, time constraints, all of those sort of things that make people be impulsive, then that would be a good start. And then I think maybe you could try and weed out the serious people from the ones who are just wanting to make the wages by, you know, maybe borrowing from video games a bit more and thinking about how you could sort of create that, you know, simulated learning, you know, onboarding that's like not necessarily using real money and making someone actually understand what they're doing before sort of committing to using these platforms.

38:14So yeah, I could probably go on, It's a weird area. It is. And I think, look, you know, for it to come across as legitimate and responsible, you know, the point that you raised around, like, you know, the sort of time constraints and those sorts of tactics that you're almost more used to seeing from, like, scammers and fraudsters, then I think absolutely we need to move away from those. But no, you know, those types of design considerations, I think, are going to be really important. And Olivia, what have you seen in terms of how people actually engage with these markets? Is it more sort of like the information piece like Evan was saying, or is it really just that sort of more gambling behavior?

39:02Gambling, 100%. Easy question to answer. Yes. So just for a bit of a background on prediction markets, they argued that they're not betting because you're entering with a contract against the other person, right? Because you're trading on a binary outcome, they're saying, rather than against the house. So they fall under the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, which doesn't have provisions against insider trading. And now they have official sponsorships and partnerships with CNN, CNBC, the Golden Globes, oddly enough. so they really this is why they worry me personally um it's because the official language and the um official positioning in terms of legislation is as a trading platform but really everything else is gambling um and that's how people engage with them as well so the mechanics the language the emotional dynamics um that's all taken from gambling uh quick quick outcomes probabilistic thinking the rush of being right you know the kind of impulse to if you didn't get it right to get it right the next time so but that doesn't mean that they can't necessarily provide insight but from a user mindset perspective it's pure gambling yeah it's an interesting one I mean it's an interesting prediction I think it's one that we're gonna is gonna run and run And I think we're going to have to keep an eye on it.

40:35The worry, obviously, Olivia, is what you said, that they're almost getting around some of the key important regulation by way of a sort of loophole, which is always a worry in terms of the potential damage for users and consumers. So I think one will definitely need to keep an eye on. Our next prediction is that stablecoins and their rise as financial infrastructure. So in the report, we said that by 2027, stable coins will operate behind the scenes as financial infrastructure reshaping payments, treasury and cross-border money movement without users needing to think about crypto at all. Colch, I mean, this feels bang on trend.

41:15Are we already starting to see some stable coin-like infrastructure influencing those mainstream products? Yeah, I think we are. So Visa now settles payments using USDC. So a lot of that's happening behind the scenes. Users would never realize that. But it's actually fundamentally shifting the infrastructure behind the scenes finally, because there's been a lot of talk, a lot of hype. And I think now we are actually seeing that come into action. And I think that will only increase this year as efficiencies identified and opportunities are seized. So yes, I think that's really going to take shape.

41:52It will still largely happen behind the scenes. I don't think users will really notice, which is great. They're not there to be noticed. They don't need to be told even. But I think it will play an important role. Particularly, I think, with international transfers. I think that's where the user is set to gain the most by kind of gaining off the opportunities of stable coins and the beneficial rates that they might offer. Yeah, I mean, Evan, I think culture for me raises a couple of important points I think as an industry you know we're naturally sort of obsessed with the tech and the rails and all of that sort of stuff but I mean from the end users perspective they're not too worried about that are they?

42:31Yeah I don't think so like I mean I think that's what is probably why it's more likely to succeed is that it is invisible yeah look as speed you know removing those middlemen from the equation to reduce cost is also super appealing I guess you know with speed. There's also that, I guess, that downstream effect, though, that comes with, you know, the risk of being irreversible. So, I think as we adopt this sort of technology, I certainly know from, you know, working in payment security in our teams, how much attention we've put on that. And I think it does make that process potentially become harder.

43:17It depends on where you know, I guess it depends on where stablecoins fits into that middle territory. You know, if there's enough sort of like gates in place, then maybe it's not as big a problem, but it certainly makes us, would make us focus more on like making sure that we're protecting customers before something goes wrong. You know, for an example, investment scams are a huge problem for us. And if that money can get out overseas, you know, next day, or sorry, instantly rather than in a day or two's time and is irretrievable, then that's a really bad outcome for quite a lot of our customers.

43:51So, I guess they're the things that we would look at. They're the risks. But I think I'll give you an example because this is something that I'm still trying to understand, but seems like a really big opportunity is we have a spendable balance where we, for customers. And what we do here is we take their available balance, we project forward and look at all their bills and we say, all right, this is what's safe to spend. The problem with that is they can still go out and spend that money. That reserved cash is still there at the tap of a card. It's not safe. We can introduce products, which we do, around separating that money into different areas with a different card, separate account, etc.

44:33But that comes with a whole bunch of problems as well and all the, I guess, the maintenance that comes with that sort of thing. So I think if Stablecoin can sort of embed that logic to the money and say that those reserve funds, they're actually just reserved for this specific thing. And if the user goes to tap their card, then those reserve funds are actually off the table. That sort of thing seems really appealing to us. um so yeah so that that shift more towards kind of like programmable money yeah but then and the other the other point as well that you um you called out that i really liked was about putting the relevant controls in place so that people are protected before they sort of and yeah i think we're starting to see some some good movement in that direction from like revolute with their sort of like street mode which is like if you're not in a safe recognized space or if there's a transaction over a certain amount, they'll sort of put a hold on that for an hour or whatever it is.

45:35Yeah. Yeah. Prevention becomes a really big thing, but it's hard. Like prevention is hard when you're talking about investment scams, because these scammers are very motivated to convince, you know, over a long period of time to convince these people that they're doing the right thing. So prevention is tricky. It's a tough problem. And so like reducing the friction to get that money out means we've got to get smarter about how we identify those problems before they happen. So it's a hard challenge. It is. Olivia, what about that sort of user angle? Does sort of hiding complexity tend to build trust or does it actually risk undermining it?

46:14I think generally users don't really want to see the plumbing. They just want to know it works, right? And if something goes wrong, somebody can explain to them. Like as long as transparency is still available, still on the table, should they need it, there's no problem in hiding complexity because nobody has time for that. Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. All right, look, the final prediction already, I can't believe we're here. So we're going to dive into wealth management crossing the final frontier. This means that the next wave of wealth competition will focus on integration and in-app distribution, bringing private bank style personalization to mass and mass affluent users.

47:03I mean, talk about a call to arms, from my previous one, this sounds like, yeah, come on guys, we can do this. And I like it. Evan, have you seen sort of growing demand from customers for those more sort of like personalized, maybe more of that sort of like white glove experience in financial services? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we're seeing growing demand as much as I think we're starting to see a shift in expectations. Like if you look at the way young people today, young Australians are using things like ChatGPT, like just the absolute adoption of these sort of tools where they can be asking advice on almost anything is becoming more and more common.

47:48So I think those expectations, like we often sort of compare our app with like, what are the other apps that customers are engaging with on their phone? And that's increasingly becoming something they're doing. And so like those expectations tend to bleed into other areas. And I think that's where even if we don't necessarily see the demand, we know the demand is coming because, you know, if you can get that experience elsewhere, why can't your bank help you? so it's something that yeah so that's definitely something that makes us think about it yeah I definitely agree with that particularly with the kind of great wealth transfer people are expecting a lot more of their digital experiences because they've experienced that with their regular bank they're getting it elsewhere and there's definitely that demand and expectation and it's going to grow so whether the tech can keep up with that expectation remains to be seen because the challenges are enormous, but certainly it will be demand-driven.

48:50I think it's so interesting because, and that comparison to, you know, what's happening in other apps and maybe in other industries. I think, you know, within financial services, I think we can sometimes tunnel vision and we'll just look at, right, well, what are the other financial players doing? And sort of that's, I suppose, the outer bounds of sort of our ambition from a UX design perspective. And sure, look, obviously, heavily regulated industry, there are restrictions on what you can and can't do, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and take wider inspiration where there are opportunities to deliver more sort of seamless but also richer experiences for customers.

49:33Speaking of customers, Olivia, what are you seeing in terms of, what are customers looking for in terms of like guidance, advice, particularly, I suppose, within their banking apps? So I think they want more advice rather than full, sorry, more guidance rather than full financial advice. So they want, we're moving from show me my money to show me how I can be better with my money. And nothing makes me sadder than going on a banking app and seeing, you know, a static link that says, trouble with money, here's some guidance. and it's just the most generic kind of thing that really gives you no guidance, in fact.

50:13So users want to see just more personalization, more understanding of their own situation and for their bank to surface kind of relevant nudges when the occasion arises. So here's some surplus clash, exactly like Adam was saying. You can invest it. Here's, you know, you have a big event coming up. here's a plan on how to make it happen. So I think it's more of that rather than full-scale financial advice. Yeah, nice. I mean, it doesn't feel like, Coach, like we're sort of making rapid progress in this space. Why do you think it's been so hard for banks to sort of integrate some of these techniques into the day-to-day banking experience?

51:01Well, I think when it comes to, for example, high net worth individuals, I think their wealth is often spread across multiple jurisdictions, multiple countries. And that introduces enormous tax problems, enormous complications tech-wise. And I think that often you actually do need a human being to then step in and give very, very specific advice on that. To try and just digitalize that from the get-go is very, very hard. So that expectation may still require a human being there to be in the middle because of the enormous complications around it, I think. I also think just building on the point about, you know, people relying on things like ChatGPT, I think there is going to be a little bit of a race there where people will assume their own risk and whether it's investment advice, but also kind of setting up their own agentic AIs and kind of setting up their own trading protocols where they can assume all their own risk and take it away from the institutions, that's going to be a little bit of a race where people take on their own risk there, I think.

52:12Is that it's almost like a sort of a bonus prediction? So people are going to start interacting with their own AI agents. The financial services institutions are going to get completely disintermediated. And that's the dystopian future that we have to look forward to. I think that could be a bonus reduction, yeah. and that's where a lot of the headlines will be I think people making huge gains or huge losses off their own assumed risk and setting up their own agentic AIs and and and look even if we're even if it's not necessarily in the full sort of AI model we are definitely already starting to see people using AI tools to sort of like pick stocks rebalance their portfolios and all of that sort of stuff.

52:57So I think we're already starting to see a shift in this direction, not necessarily on mass, but certainly some canaries in the coal mine. So I think, again, potentially a really interesting one to keep an eye on. All right, look, that wraps up today's discussion. A big, big thank you to our panelists for breaking down this very important topic, talking through the predictions from the 11FS Pulse report. Guys, thank you so much for joining me. Let's do a a quick whiz around the virtual room work and people maybe connect and find out a little bit more about you guys and your companies. Joe, let's start with you.

53:34So you can find me on LinkedIn, Joe Colchester, or you can find Pulse at pulse.11fest.com. Perfect. Olivia, how about you? Same thing, actually. Pulse or LinkedIn. Perfect. All right. Easy peasy. And Evan, how about you? Yeah, LinkedIn is probably the easiest spot to get in touch with me. Yeah, Evan Simmons. Yeah, I mean, if you're in Australia and you haven't downloaded the app, get on it. Just go to the App Store. You'll find it. Awesome. And yeah, continuing the trend, you can also find me on LinkedIn. Thank you very much for listening. If you want to learn more about our predictions, then download the 11FS Pulse report right now.

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