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3:51Luke Moore: Busted makes me feel good, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble. Botafogo got a famous win and real bettors really want Anthony. It's Friday 20th of June. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Luke Moore. And I'm Pete Donaldson.

4:14Luke Moore: Hello, everybody. It's Friday, and it's a scorching Friday in the kingdom, Peter. It is. I went with trousers because all my shorts are dirty. Is that a funky Friday? It's a funky, it's a freaky, it's a fabulous one. Shame you've got your trousers on. I did tell you it's a thigh guy summer. It is. No, right. Is that why your shorts are dirty? Yeah, my thighs explode and there's blood on them. Oh, that's a shame. That's a shame. He was either going to go for blood or something else. Rubbing his thighs too much. You look like you're wearing swimming trousers, swimming shorts. I am. They're going to fill this studio out of water in a minute.

4:49And you'll be the maybe egg on your face. Oh, no. And there is a snorkel in my pocket. Oh, and a big one at that.

4:56Luke Moore: Yeah. Right, everybody, before we get to the Club World Cup, and that's really why we're all here. Okay, don't pretend you're not here for that. we've got another competition for you to get excited about I'm bloody excited Luke's Game is back yeah baby it's been too long as you know we're giving Jackson Cyclopaedia a break over the summer but we are revisiting an absolute classic of the game genre and I want to remind everyone it's called Luke's Game because we couldn't think of a proper name for it and we just stuck with it it's not because I'm a rampant egotist you kind of invented it though I did invent it yeah yeah I did invent it yeah kind of invented it we need a better name for it but it's just called Luke's Game for now Well, Luke's game will be out today at 4pm as a little bonus episode.

5:36Luke Moore: Yes. For you to enjoy on your Friday evening or your weekend. Little Brucie bonus. Come on. A chicken Chinese. I could do that. £340 worth of Chinese. Love that. But do remember, there's no mailbag on Saturday. So after today's game, we'll be back on Monday. Well, gentlemen, the sun is out and the Club World Cup just won't stop coming. It just won't stop. I'm on board with it now. I'm officially on board. are you a world are you a world club willy are you into it I think I've got one of those but no I tell you what we've had the big the first big surprise you would say of the tournament it was PSG 0 Botafogo 1 yeah and a fist fight in the stands which is very enjoyable that's just Andy Brassel somebody replied there was loads of videos floating around somebody replied why are the PSG fans fighting a Foot Locker staff member oh really because of the colour in the middle But it could have been Andy fighting John Textor.

6:31It's a good point, actually. John Textor was the owner of Butterfogo, isn't he? That's right. Well, John Textor got a, well, got kissy. He got kissy face, kissy face. Yes, he did. Yeah, answer your phone. Renato Piver, the Butterfogo manager, got a kiss from John Textor. I love Renato Piver. Why do you love him? What sort of John Textor? Give him a big smooch. I couldn't say I possibly love him as much as the man who's employed him. Textor's put his money where his mouth is. there. Mine's more just rhetorical. There's two main reasons I love Renato Piver. One is because he looks like an evil George Clooney.

7:08Looks like a George Clooney down on his luck, maybe. And the second reason is because going into this game, when he was asked if his team can produce an upset, of course one of the players said there was a less than 1 % chance they would beat PSG. That player said there's a 1 % chance we'll beat PSG, but that 1 % is a lot for us. Which proved pertinent. But Renato Piver said, the cemetery of football is full of favourites. Yeah. Which is dramatic. It's dramatic. That's massive time. Get behind them. When he was kissed, he did also say, I prefer my wife's kisses. Nerd. Did he? Absolute nerd. Surely they're your team, Peter, for this tournament.

7:43Well, I mean, the colour works, I would say. There you go. Plucky underdogs. Underdogs. Even though I think they're the best stories champions, aren't they? But they're not anywhere near the level of size of club of your Flamengos or your Palmeris or whatever. But amazing turnaround because PSG are favourites. I think they still are favourites despite that defeat. Favourites with all the bookmakers. So it was a great turnaround. And what I loved about it was they were properly robust. Hard to break down. I mean, Alex Barbosa played. I'd never seen him play before. He had a great game. A tank. An absolute tank.

8:18Can I be very European for a moment? Sure. Right. Sign him up. Get him over. That would be a lovely bit of nostalgia because people listening to this who are too young to remember, say, World Cups in the 90s, that one of the best parts of the World Cup in the 90s, the International World Cup, of course. The emerging stars would be signed. Well, players would just come from nowhere and they'd get big moves. I was desperate for someone in England to sign Roger Miller after World Cup 90s.

8:42Luke Moore: And you realised, actually, all things considered, it's best. But he played in 94 as well. Yeah, he did. Scored. There we go. So if we get off the back of that, I mean, Alex Barbosa, I think, might be in his 30s but he just looks amazing quite a weird hairstyle really white teeth there's a lot to like really hard well Lewis Enrique said Botafogo was the team that defended us best all season wow it's a dig at Arsenal it is a bit of a dig isn't it obviously in our league in the Champions League they made a low block from the start and were very efficient united we didn't create the goal scoring opportunities that we normally do one in the eye for Villa there one in the eye for everybody quite frankly Peter but more so for PSG because they were the ones who were on the end of this result so was it good to see Allen in the midfield as well.

9:23It's always good to see Allen. Everton's Allen.

9:26Luke Moore: Alain. Everton's Alain. Alana Morissette. He was there. Amazing to think he used to play for Everton, of course. Ancelotti, that would have probably been. But Napoli for many years as well. He's a lovely player. That's where he made his name, Napoli. Lovely player. Just give him the ball, pass the ball. Give the ball, pass the ball. Give the ball, pass the ball. That's all it is. It lends it out. Alex Teller's playing for Botafogo as well, which is interesting. again a former Man United player going on to do great things you keep this up you might just play at the club World Cup boy it won't be here you get a famous result yeah but they they kind of just really dug in they did everything correctly yeah because they rode an early storm as well because Kratz Kelly had the bit between his teeth very early on was doing that thing in that channel that he does was cutting inside was making it difficult I was sort of overwhelmed early on as we've seen did it to Atletico did it in the Champions League many times.

10:23Yeah, but then I guess it's just the true brutality of the thermometer at the Rose Bowl start to take its toll. I was going to say... If you're a team from Brazil who loves to defend... I mean, by the way, cards on the table, this is the very first time in my life I've seen Botafogo play. So they might not play at this normally.

10:40Luke Moore: Second time for me. Okay, right. I've seen them live, boy. Have you? What was the score? They won 2-0 in the first leg of the final of the Rio State Championship. Back in 2006, And was it, how did they perform? Was it a defensive performance? Did they hit them on the break? Was he going to smack them in? They were the big team. No, 2006, so obviously that's 19 years ago. So none of the team, I'm going to assume. Apart from Alan. Apart from Alan, who was there, and Barboza. None of them were there. But yeah, you're right. I mean, they're a big side, but not the biggest in Brazil. Huge tradition.

11:12Luke Moore: I think it would have been Garincha, who was maybe one of their famous sons. But it's great, though, because of all the things you say, Luke. and it's a really important result, this, because look at it, it's captured our... We're in. We're in. And also, if you tell me, Pete Donaldson, that there's going to be a man in golf at Botafogo who is simply just called John. J-O-H-N. Yeah. I'm interested. I love that, yeah. You've got Arthur, Alan and John playing. I know. All the local mechanics are there. They reckon that Jesus is going to Nottingham Forest. Well, they're interested. Interested. Yeah.

11:44Luke Moore: From about half-time yesterday, So we'll have him. I'm hearing it. It's confirmed. It was a fortunate finish. A lovely through ball. If anybody can get the ball past Donnarumma, in England, we just think, he's got to be good. He managed it. The reason the ball went past Donnarumma is because Jesus tried to put it in the other corner and it got deflected into the opposite one. So, I mean, not even Donnarumma could do anything about that. That's true. Nice to see Botafogo's mascot, Biliba, on doing the rounds. Of course, you mentioned him on Rumble Uncut, Peter. Little wee doggy. Little doggy. I'm going to go all time.

12:19They used to throw on the pitch to delay the game. Yeah, slow the game down. Yeah, they could have done that here. I'd love they did that against PSG.

12:25Luke Moore: That would have been funny. Yeah. Although surely they wanted to speed it up. They were winning. Yeah, that's true. Get the dogs off the pitch. Yeah, yeah. Get the dogs on the pitch, please. They've obviously made that decision. Do you throw the dog into the stand or it doesn't work like that? Well, I would throw the dog on the pitch when you need to break the momentum of the other team. Yeah. That's what I'd be doing. Throw him into the stands because there's a fight going on. Oh, yeah, true. Surely you would release the dog on the feet. You'd lob it in from Rosario. I would never want to throw any kind of animal.

12:50A playful shoot. Yeah. I'd throw any sort of birds at the pitch. Yeah. So there was a bird in my kitchen. Like a dart. What about a penguin? What about a penguin? Ooh. They're quite flabby, aren't they? They're slippery as well. Very greasy surface. Greasy. Not that easy. It would dry them out. No, no, because the pitch is watered. If you threw them along the pitch, they'd be so crazy. Like Maradona that time.

13:12Luke Moore: They'd probably think it was just a substitute with the colours. Yeah, good point. You see? Good point. But a great win, though, for Botafogo. And by the sounds of it, they've got quite a lot of animal weapons in their locker to use. I think they're going to go on and win it. I tell you what, that group is shaping up quite nicely. It's nice, isn't it? Because Atletico play them next. Well, Botafogo top it. Exactly. They won two out of two and yet could still not go through. Yeah. Which is the best argument, which is the best argument for a 48-team thing because they deserve to go through. I think it's unlikely that Botafogo won't go through.

13:42I mean, Atletico Madrid could beat them by a... you know, what, two or three goals? I think there'd need to be a pretty big swing. Yeah. Before, no, two, I think. A couple of goals in the sublims. Two or three, yeah. Would you fire a dog over a pretty big swing?

13:54Luke Moore: Now you're asking. Yeah, I think we'll save that one for when the mics aren't here. But PSG, I think, do remain favourites. Were you concerned for the markers after what you saw? Because they did kind of, they bashed the door in as much as they could. Just didn't quite get there. I think that what the Brazil players, if they didn't do this, should have done. I said Brazil players, Botafogo players, of course, sorry. what they could have done is oh you've had a long season haven't you oh you must be tired just keep going on that narrative because at some point PSG at some point Vitina will need a break you can't just keep doing this so I think they probably played onto that and defended it very very well but yes PSG will be heavy favourites to beat Seattle Sounders bless them absolutely absolutely right and they would march on but it would be interesting to see who would top that group all to play for now then Inter Miami 2 football club Porto 1 another little upset little upset with little Lionel he got his goal that's what we all came for it was a beauty as well Cristiano Ronaldo's fuming isn't he yeah should have been me since 2018 apparently Leo Messi scored more free kicks than penalties 34 to 33 that's a really good stat I don't know whether he's been bad at penalties or really good at free kicks seems like a lot a little both a little both you're sure he scored that many free kicks apparently so my goodness Well, it was his 50th goal for Inter Miami.

15:15Luke Moore: Beautiful free kick. Lovely one. And it was the difference, of course. You sort of got this feeling the keeper didn't sort his feet out enough. I know he was unsighted a little bit, but it just felt like he could... He thought Messi was going the other way. Yeah. Did he? Well, especially because Man United were in for the main man in next report. And I thought it was him. And I was like, oh, dear. Man United are going to get another stinking goalkeeper. But it wasn't. it was the sub. Oh, right, okay. Oh, well. Don't worry, they'll overpay. Yeah. No matter who it is. Do you know what the highlight of this game for me was?

15:48Messi's goal? No, it was a beauty. But that, I think it was when Porto were one up because obviously Agarhouse scored a penalty.

15:54Luke Moore: The clearance off the line. That was great. The Falcone clearance off the line was great. For me, the highlight was Varela smacking one from miles out which ricocheted back off the post, hit the keeper, almost went in, the keeper managed to claw it away. I thought that was an amazing passage of play. It was. It's a shame he didn't even go in actually. But I also think, I've got to be careful here because Inter Miami won the game and good for them, but I found it quite funny watching Luis Suarez play. I know what you mean. He looks like he's playing underwater now. He's lost a step, isn't it? Yeah, for sure.

16:25It's so noticeable. It's so noticeable. I mean, obviously, he's getting to the age he is and he's had an amazing career and I don't want to criticise him too much. 38 years old and still, basically leading the line alongside Messi. He's really cool in one way, but he looks so big on the turn now that it's crazy to watch

16:41Luke Moore: yeah I know because you're so used to how keen he was the type of player you used to be tenacity was incredible yeah yeah but it's quite interesting to watch yeah well people weren't sure if Messi was going to play in this game after he was seen grimacing when nursing his leg a few days ago but Inter Miami boss Javier Mascherano put all that to bed and he said he was touching his leg sometimes people touch themselves Pete do you want to come in on that come in on that but there's no problem they do sometimes sometimes there is a problem when I think about you I judge myself as the song went yeah he's fit and he will play I didn't know that song was about Lionel Messi and his thigh it was yeah yeah yeah well talking of older footballers Sergio Busquets of course was in there 36 years old he looked good he did look good rolling back the years but I think all in his head I mean for a player of that intelligence exactly with that education yeah that role as well other than maybe getting overrun by you know a very fit midfield or something he's also playing alongside a very, very inexperienced central midfielder alongside him, to be fair to him.

17:40And they've won the game against a team who've got great pedigree in European competition, you know. And I know Andy was talking on OTC. They're proper appominent. He was talking the other day about OTC, about how Portuguese football might be in a bit of trouble. But nevertheless, I mean, it's still a great result for Inter Miami.

17:53Luke Moore: Yeah, it is. And they face Palmeiras on Monday. And if they avoid defeat, they'll qualify for the next round. Which I didn't see coming when I saw them in whichever half it was in their opening game when they were really, really poor. Yes, indeed, yeah. First half, I think, yeah. Yeah, the top two in the groups go through, of course. We could get some interesting things, goal difference or head-to-head and all that kind of stuff, but we'll wait until, see if that happens. Palmeiras in that group beat Al-Akhali 2-0 after a 40-minute delay in the second half because of severe weather. Fans were told to go and take shelter inside the stadium.

18:25Luke Moore: Yeah, the Palmeiras fans turned it into a big party, which was fucking great. The South American fans have been fucking great. Yeah, they've been great. We knew that would be the case, but credit where credit's due. And as you said before, Luke, that will carry this tournament. That's what it's about. And I think, you know, we are warming to it. This is so predictable because we love football. And when you see some of these great teams from the other side of the world giving good accounts of themselves and so on, it would have been awful if the European team just turned up and dominated. But I think there's enough European teams of differing quality to ensure that doesn't happen.

18:55Luke Moore: However, the PSG result is an outstanding one. Yeah, and Luis Enrico did allude to that in one of his interviews. He said they're going to present a completely different challenge for us. I don't know quite what he meant by that because ultimately the rules of the game are the same but I mean and a lot of teams would try to set up in that way against PSG and probably I guess failed but I guess maybe it does show that top coaches are thinking about because you just don't get an opportunity to ever play a team like that in a competitive way yeah it presents a different challenge in that way I mean at some point I think PSG when they look around or some of the big clubs they may well look around and they look at the lack of attendances they look at what's going on and they think, Gordon Bennett, we are exhausted.

19:35Luke Moore: Maybe there is going to be a bit of a drop-off. All that stuff still stands. This tournament is still quite ludicrous in a lot of ways. Totally. But that's why football is such an effective tool for people to use it in which way or whatever. Well, that's why I was kind of disappointed earlier in the week about the way that I perceive MLS teams to be playing, although they seem to have turned it around somewhat since then, because they're in the middle of their season. And I know that the drop-off in quality is obvious, but if you look at say how Al Hilal played against Real Madrid they were decent they were actually decent without Mitrovic as well yeah quite and we haven't touched on that because it came after the Wednesday episode so we haven't talked about that but that was an amazing yeah another outstanding result yeah right but now we have actually seen of course it's only a couple of results but we have actually seen Inter Miami do something and so maybe teams will start to grow into the tournament a bit more yes they will I'm very much a Pachuca man at the moment I thought you would be Kennedy and Solomon Rondon in hooking up losing 2-1 against Salzburg in a game at no one what now you're talking 3-1 2018 you can see United where's Yoshinori Muto to be fair Pete where's Kisung Young early on you set your stall out that you are a pro club World Cup man yes I am and once again you are being proved right I just feel like Urawa Red Diamonds have lost me and I'm now a Pachuca man Pachuca Pete much like the theme of this tournament we are very much open for offers in Guns N 'Hard.

21:04I had my heart broken by All-San HD losing to Manalodi Sun. That's a good point. That was really, really tough to take.

21:10Luke Moore: Well, my team of the tournament are still... For about 3 ,000 hardy souls. Really? My team of the tournament is still Man City. Are they really? Yeah. Nice. You look like you're wearing one of their third away kits or something. It is a little bit like that. I feel like... I know we haven't scheduled time to talk about this, but very briefly, can we just talk a little bit about Real Madrid Al-Halau? Yeah, go on then. Because... It was hilarious. There is. What I found interesting is the goalkeeper. There's your headline. Bounou, who we all saw play for Morocco in the World Cup, did brilliantly.

21:38He did. He was in... Are you going Bounou?

21:40Luke Moore: I always want to say Bono. Bono, yeah. For the joke. It's spelt Bounou, isn't it? But I suppose... I'm happy to go with Bono. Yeah. I think it was one of the highlights of that World Cup, wasn't it? Being able to call the goalkeeper Bono. So that's fine. And he's got a great account of him. Definitely the best Bono I can think of. But what's really interesting is Alexander-Arnold. Come on! and looked amazingly shaky as a defensive player. Yeah, at the start, yeah. He did, but I mean... He came into himself a little bit. It was... So on one hand... Assisted and assist. There's so much to say about this.

22:09Luke Moore: I wanted a severe weather, like a real big downpour, so he looked like a drowning rat. Well, actually, before I come on to what I was going to say, it was... I studiously looked into this, and every single article about his performance and YouTube highlight video, there were loads of Liverpool fans, and they're saying, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Amazing. You want to see what he's going to be like. He was lucky Mitrovic wasn't playing because you saw in the flesh when Mitrovic bullied him at Crave and Cottage. Well, Al Halal did seem to actively target that flank, which is interesting.

22:42But also, I suppose, he's only had three training sessions for Real Madrid and Dean Hoyssen played as well. He's, I think, making his debut as well. And so there was a lot of disjointed feel about how Real Madrid played. But one thing I wanted to bring to the table, a huge congratulations to Al Halal because it looks like Simone and Zaghi's got on plan already. They look like a really good unit in a way that Real Madrid didn't, even though the game finished 1-0. But what was fascinating to me, Pete, and this might be of interest to you, is that so many people are experiencing this Club World Cup through the YouTube highlights videos, right?

23:11Because there's so many games and because the time difference is tricky, right? And there's loads of teams that you don't really know about, so you're going into YouTube and you're consuming the content. There were a load of Al Halal fans in that YouTube video, the official DAZN YouTube highlights video, saying this edit of these highlights is an absolute disgrace. Is that right? And you are actively promoting Real Madrid and diminishing our team. Interesting. By the amount of chances you're showing. And I thought to myself, that is a really interesting discussion around the way people consume football in the modern world.

23:43But if you go to, I'm sure the comments are all still there. People are really upset about it.

23:47Luke Moore: It's funny because obviously DAZN have Saudi investment, huge Saudi investment. So if anything you think of going the other way. but it's reverse propaganda well the tournament needs Real Madrid more than they need Al Jal you would probably suggest not for me mate I just I did kind of not to the point that I'd ever do a YouTube comment about it but I did you're coming in on here I did kind of agree that it was a lot more of an even game than the highlights showed so a little word to the old editor I don't think that's a conspiracy it's basically going to be some editor who's doing his best chucking something as quick as possible it's the tip of the iceberg you've got to do it very quickly I always find I just thought they only showed of a fraction of Trent Ayrton's mistakes.

24:26The Sky Sports Premier League highlights always surprise me that they never contain the most salacious bits and bobs, like the weird decisions and stuff like that. They never focus on them. Yeah. I guess you've probably got an optimum amount of time for the length of the video. So you've got to prioritise. Yeah, it's just a video on it. You've got to prioritise because people are only going to watch for a certain amount of time.

24:46Luke Moore: Gentlemen, if you're looking for real, real juicy stuff and dare I say scandal, I want to return our attention to former Inter Porto and Real Madrid manager, Jose Mourinho. Yeah. Disgrace that he's not involved in this club. You'd think FIFA would have found a way. I think he'll find a way. Yeah. He'll find a way. I think his name's inscribed on the trophy. That's right. Unlock it and Mourinho pops up. Complain of the better ref. Well, now, get a load of this. Andy and the boys talked about this on OTC. WhatsApp messages between members of the Turkish Football Federation's disciplinary committee have been leaked where they talk about making Jose pay next season.

25:27Luke Moore: They said he has been tolerated too much and this reference Mourinho calling out Turkish referees after Fenerbahce drew with Galatasaray in February. Fenerbahce released a statement saying we believe that this hostile mentality which clearly violates the principle of impartiality and is based on showdowns and revenge has no place in Turkish sports. It does, it does, doesn't it? It's one of the main things of it. One of the main parts. They're going to give... It's like saying that George Clooney's got no place in the ER. He's the main guy. They're going to give Jose Mourinho a lifetime contract for this.

25:57This is mana from heaven for that club. Brussels, Brussels. Everyone's against us and here's the fucking proof. Brilliant. I'll tell you what I don't like about Brussels. He was playing it down. Yeah. He was. Playing it down and said it's not a big deal. They shouldn't be doing that. They shouldn't be doing that. But they are just basically saying, can we tighten up on Jose Mourinho being an absolute menace to everybody? Yeah. And the answer is no. No. The answer is no, you can't.

26:18Luke Moore: Well, Fennel Baccio has suggested that the board is biased in favour of Galatasaray, which they've said many, many times. I mean, this gives fuel to that. Mourinho did say... Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire. Mourinho did say the anniversary of the release of Lode this year. Did he buy it a present? I think it's 30 years, I think. Yeah, anyway. That's not my story. But Mourinho did say that... He accused that guy who was about to resign for doing this. the head of that committee of being I don't know if it's true or not but he definitely accused him of being on video dancing around in a Galatasaray shirt when they won the league sorry but on the Jose Mourinho side he's also literally opened press conferences by saying I hate Turkish football it stinks no one wants to watch it the referees are a joke so maybe they can be forgiven for being a bit kind of like we have to stop this happening we have to become the itty bitty ritty committee they have to become that but the thing though is that you know as I do this just chucks paraffin on the fire for Mourinho they've got to keep him a job now he's like a legend now he looks set to stay next season takes your eyebrows off this stuff if he wins the Turkish league next season he'll go on about the finest achievement but it's all there but a lot of the fans were cheering for his predecessor on the final day of the season with Frenad Baccio because he got a ridiculous points total but didn't win the league he was very much second but if Mourinho can legitimately say ahead of the new season.

27:48Look, I may not have delivered the league to you this season, but I have basically completely decimated the entire infrastructure, the props up, the whole thing. Come on to me, my side.

27:55Luke Moore: You know he'll use this like a Tory MP uses that letter that they left in the Treasury. Yes. It's like, I do agree with Andy, this is probably no big deal. But they will just go on and on and on about it. Who leaked it? Which dirty little sod leaked that? Yeah. I don't know. But, you know, what's bad for the Turkish league is usually what's good for the Ramble. Coming up after this, England scrape through in the Euro under-21s and Gianni's back in the White House.

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32:08So sorry about the, I hadn't pressed the button. I went away for a job at halftime. Excuse my term of language and stuff. A wee bit of poop. And it went on from there, really. Yeah. It's the second mention.

32:24Luke Moore: so unnecessary first one you're thinking alright you're getting a telling off second one yeah they'll sack you and they did start walking now gentlemen before we fully move on from the club world cup we do have to talk about Juventus yeah okay they beat Alain 5-0 on Wednesday night absolutely walk in the park yes much sort of stranger and troubling scenes involving Juventus some of the players and delegation were forced to make a trip to the White House before their game against El Ayn on Wednesday. And I use the word forced because that's what one or two of the players have said. Now, they were stood behind Donald Trump.

33:03Luke Moore: I thought Trump didn't have a clue who they were. He also made up a load of stuff about the games being sold out and that he couldn't get a ticket himself. Not the worst thing that came out of his mouth. No. That hour, I'm sure. But he then sat there with, as I say, with a handful of Juventus people behind him and started discussing a possible attack on Iran. It's just, what a dreadful timeline we're living in. It just, how is this happening? Is he thinking to himself, well, we need a good defence, there's Chiellini. He'll probably help out. He'd better not have grabbed that old lady by the, you know what.

33:36The old lady of Chiellini. The vecchia signora by the gato. Gato, is it? That's cat in Italian. Gato. Spanish is gato for cat. Right. Yeah, I know where you're going with it. Marcus, you want to move him on?

33:47Luke Moore: Yeah, so Trump also talked about whether the US civil war could have been avoided, and his administration's travel bans. He also asked the event suppliers if a woman could get into their team. Yeah, and I think one of the coaching staff rather diplomatically said, yes, we have a great female team. He did. And tried to tidy that up. But Trump had another go after that. Nothing about this is any different to going... There's a fig leaf. No. He's going to visit your grandparents struggling with dementia in an old people's home. Yeah. And you go and visit them because you love them and you want to spend time with them.

34:18and if you took a transcript, everything Donald Trump said there, you could easily attribute that to that scenario. There's no difference. Weston McKinney was absolutely furious. For those who don't know, Weston McKinney is on record already as saying, well, I'll read you the quote. I don't think that Trump is the right man for the president. I stand by these words. I believe he doesn't understand the responsibility he has. I think he's ignorant. I don't support him. I don't think he's a man who stands by his word. In my eyes, you can call him racist. Timothy Ware was also very upset about it as well.

34:48We're taking the piss out of it because ultimately there is a black comedy element to Donald Trump and the way he behaves. But this is fucking bad. It's bad. You're mentioning Weir and McKinney there. I mean, they're 25 and 26 years old. You don't have to leave the fucking hotel. I'm sorry. Why do you reckon they actually did it? Well, Weir said this. Because the players could have said no. Because you've hit a scum club. The players could have said, I'm not going.

35:13Luke Moore: Well, Timothy Weir said it was all a bit of a surprise to me, honestly. they told us that we have to go and I had no choice but to go. It was a bit weird. And when he started talking about the politics with Iran and everything, it's kind of like, I just want to play football, man. And I have enormous sympathy for that. I genuinely felt sorry. I mean, like, once again, a footballer has proved that they're just confection, isn't it? I had sympathy for Timothy White. What he could have meant by that, just to play devil's advocate here, because I get where you're both coming from. What could have happened, Pete, is they could have said, you go into the White House, visit the White House, as a scheduled press appearance, to talk about the Club World Cup and you're contractually obliged to do it.

35:48You get real rid of that. And obviously Trump can't fucking stay on message or anything. Exactly.

35:51Luke Moore: So it gets sprung on them, right? But footballers all the time are told, right, right, we're going here now, you're doing this, you're doing that. Yeah. And by the way... You've got to the White House, I'm going to meet Donald Trump, don't want to do it, not want to do it. But the thing is though, Peter, a lot of the time when they shirk their responsibilities, it's usually, can you sign this for some kids or all this, you know? Because Roy Keane said that recently, didn't he, on Stick to Football, he said he would be like, no, you sign every single one of these. It'll take you 20 minutes, shut up and get on with it.

36:14Luke Moore: And there's certain clubs where if they don't have like a strong captain or something, sometimes players just quickly leave and off they go. But there's certain things where they're told, right, stand there, smile, do that, do that. You just push from pillar to post. What I find, the interesting thing for me is the idea that Infantino is like a gurning simpleton as usual. And it's interesting, isn't it, how when it suits them, FIFA are actually interested in Paul. They are actually in sidling up to whichever way the wind's blowing because they'll punish nations and confederations and associations for any kind of quote political influence which stops them doing what they want to do but the moment Infantino's got an opportunity to sidle up to Donald Trump he does it over and over and over again I mean it's bizarre it's just bizarre It is bizarre to say the least Right let's leave the Club World Cup now Plenty of look forward to It's the second time you said that today I was just enjoying Brad Friedle's commentary.

37:09Oh, there you're talking. There's been the highlight of this work, I forget, because we don't get enough Friedle in this country. Yes. And just, he is just... Friedle doesn't come for free. The Friedle doesn't come for free. He is just the dad you want to be handing him a spanner as he fixes up a Corvette on the front of your house. Will he have a Corvette? Why have you got a Corvette at the front of your house? No, he's got a Corvette. He's just maintaining it. And I've got... You're walking past and you can give me a hand with this. No, no, he's my dad and I'm handing him spanners and he wipes his hands off on an oily rag and he puts his big arms around me and tells me you know what son you may not have had a date to the prom but you still matter you still matter let's go throw the ball for a bit let's go chuck the pill you toot in and come back out with your baseball glove and he throws you a ball yeah you want a bit of that yeah I do

37:52Luke Moore: it's all in response for your dad having his hernia operation it is apparently he's still at home because he didn't do a poo so he's still waiting can we get some kind of timeline going on the YouTube video I think he has a poo doctor's not happy with his kidney nuts. Okay. Flavours, I don't know. I don't know what doctors do. It's interesting to get the hereditary thing out of that because you didn't do a poo for ages, didn't you? It's a good part, yeah. You were constipated for like four months. I didn't have the excuse of having a lot of drugs pumped into me. Well, that's not true. Why do you always beg me as a drug addict?

38:23I don't like it. Well, look at you. Yeah, good point.

38:26Luke Moore: I've got the general look over me. Was it 2011? You did, what, three shits in the whole year? I had a dos of not being able to poo for a couple of months in 2005. No, it wasn't. It was about 2011. It wasn't 2011. And Brad Frieda's wife at this point comes at the house and says, why are you getting a spanner off that drug addict? He's on meth. Leave him alone. Get out of this neighbourhood. We've told you once before. Yeah. Right. What are we doing? We're talking about the under-21s. Okay, good. I was in this game. England were through to the quarterfinals, despite losing 2-1 to Germany. Yeah. they started really badly England they were quite sloppy they should have been falling upwards in this tournament as we said Lee Cardsley did challenge them to go to do it even better than the under-21s did two years ago when they won the tournament without conceding a goal they're not doing that no they've already lost a game they've conceded and they went through in second place because Czechia did them a favour beating Slovenia so yeah England they'll play Spain tomorrow right Saturday that's right so the side who they beat 1-0 in last year sorry last time round final.

39:31Luke Moore: Yeah. So Spain will be wanting revenge, you would have thought. So England weren't great. I'd say they got the job done. The Czechy got the job done for them. Yeah, they conceded very early. The two goals they conceded were pretty sloppy. And then Germany were really good, from what I saw, were really good defensively. Really solid, really robust. In fact, not dissimilar to how Botafogo were, actually. But then England, a little bright spot for them is that, ironically, on a night where the floodlights failed, But that was a weird passage of play. Did you see that? So basically, for those who didn't see it, because you've got an incredible amount of football to watch already, as it is, without watching age group games as well, allow me to evaluate the information.

40:13Basically, about a minute and a half before half-time, one of the floodlights failed, and the referee didn't seem to know what to do. So he went to the fourth official, asked him what was going on. They had a little chat, and then the referee went to both the captains. I think the England captain was Harvey Elliott. I can't remember who the German captain was. and said, look, do you want to just play for the last minute in this light? Are you okay with that? And they both just said yes. But they didn't actually play. What happened was they gave the ball to Harvey Elliott. He did about a few keepy-ups.

40:41They stood around. Germany didn't try and win the ball. Then the referee blew up for half-time.

40:45Luke Moore: Yeah, just get it done. That's weird. If I was Harvey Elliott, shouldn't he just had a pop? Get down there. Yeah. You're losing the game. Yeah, yeah. Just do keep-ups, but ever so slightly get closer. He's only 30 yards from goal. Yeah. He's put it over the bar. but the other highlight was Amari Hutchison yes I mean the goal will be credited to a lovely a delightfully chin strapped Alex Scott who got viciously assaulted by Tyron Mings you remember one of the final days of the season broke his jaw but the goal really should be credited to a large extent to Amari Hutchison who danced down the left flank danced through the penalty area and put it on the plate for Scott it was a beauty absolutely beauty beauty it was a beauty Marcus speaking of international football did you see Harv Renard getting involved in a scuffle in the Saudi Arabia USA match.

41:29Oh, did he? Nearly got blood in his shirt, honestly.

41:32Luke Moore: Someone else's blood. Yeah. Should see the other guy. That is funny, isn't it, how the US and Co are playing the gold card right now. Again, I'm just a bit like, what are they? What do you think of? If someone says to you, Harv Renard, what do you think of? What incident? I always think of him carrying that player. Yeah, that's the highlight of that. I mean, that's just glorious. I just think of him pictured in the shirt. Yeah. But then when he took it off that time, when he was celebrating... Good nick, isn't he? Ivory Coast, was it, when he won. He's in good nick, isn't he? He always will be.

42:00Luke Moore: He'll be able to look like that in his 90s. He'd better carry a player off the pitch in his 90s. Like Captain Tom. Exactly. But the Zimmer frame is a Zimbabwean player. Yeah. Zambian. Zambian player, sorry, yeah. Yeah, right. Coming up after this, food poisoning conspiracies and Real Betis move heaven and earth to sign Anthony.

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44:36Luke Moore: Right then. Real Betis, they are desperate for their man. They're trying to come up with all sorts of ways to get him from Manchester United. He's now back at Manchester United, Anthony, after his loan spell in Seville came to an end. But Bennett have reportedly offered to pay£17 million up front and then include a 50 % sell-on clause as a part of the deal. Jim Radcliffe, come back to him, gone 17 and a half. Yeah.

45:01Luke Moore: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what... Just get rid of him, man, you know. It's some money. It's some money. But Radcliffe's got another way of earning money, hasn't he? Well, he has, yeah. He's put up ticket prices. is it? Yeah. Don't laugh, Pete. Well, it's just... You either laugh or cry. And it's Friday. We're not going to cry. Do teams make all that much money these days by match day tickets? Well, there is chat about that, isn't there? The amount of revenue you make, it's kind of, it's not that high. Well, just in comparison to other revenue streams. But it is still important revenue stream for them, isn't it?

45:35Luke Moore: Thought you'd defend it. I'm not defending it. I see, yeah. Well, also, what's fascinating about this is that if you look at... Charged me for a barbecue in his house once. If you look at... I've never invited you to barbecue at my house. If you look at the detail, right? So the Man United Supporters Trust are saying that the cheapest tickets for most league games have gone up by 50%, right? And so the big refrain that I've seen has been, it's now much more expensive to watch Man United than it is Man City, who are, of course, a much better team. But I'm not defending it, but I was putting this out there.

46:08Here we go. The demand for tickets at Man United is nonetheless, no matter how shut they are far higher than it is at Man City Man City yeah right so there's an element of that as to what I don't think it's the right thing to do and I'm appalled the amount of fans who just get stiffed by these idiots and it's disgraceful but to compare the two is kind of erroneous I think I would like to see like Gianni and Fettino had never heard of sort of you know the sliding scale of dynamic ticket sales let's have some performance ticket sales yeah yeah that's a good idea For every goal you score, the price goes up a little bit.

46:44Yeah, how much? 50p? 50p. And every goal you concede, it goes down 50p. Exactly. That'd be brilliant.

46:50Luke Moore: They'll be paying you to come. The whole ticket thing at Manchester United is a disgrace. It's been well documented. I mean, Paul Scholl said that they sold his ticket without him saying anything. I think it was the Lyon game or something. And you hear, I know one or two fans who have said that. I was absolutely furious. There's people who've had... He's not Frank Clark. it's got the same demeanour. Get back in the river, Frank. There's, there's, there's people who've had seen things like 50 years. We've just been told they've got to move for some more hospitality box. Yeah. Yeah. It's terrible.

47:22progress. The way they go about it is absolutely terrible.

47:24Luke Moore: It's such a shit show. It's terrible. But just let Anthony go. It's good for you. It's good for him. It's good for him. Make him buy a season ticket. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. If he, if he buys a box there. Yeah. Something like that. Some of the hospitality, I don't know. In other news, Manchester United related,

47:41Luke Moore: on a year loan. What do you think of that, PED? I don't know. I mean, his form hasn't been stellar. He played well for 15 minutes against PSG and he's sort of shown flashes, but I guess for a loan move it's not too bad, is it? Good to step on Anthony Gordon's toes. Well, Anthony Gordon's toes has been stepped on by himself at the moment. I think if you go around stepping on your new colleague's toes, that's a poor start to pursue. It's poor tactical awareness. With Gordon and Barnes, I mean, I know it's always handy to have a bigger squad, especially in Champions League and they want to be firing on all cylinders.

48:16Luke Moore: I just feel though that position, I mean, a little bit catered for. Yeah, massively. It's the right hand side that they've always wanted to replace ever since. But then we've got the greatest assist maker in our club's history there at the moment, in Murphy. So don't worry about it. No better than what we've already got, quite frankly. I would also say with Rashford at Villa, I mean, I'll take your point about the Champions League, but he was like introduced off the bench on a number of occasions in pretty spectacular fashion in the league as well. Yeah, I suppose so. Him and Asensio coming in were like, they were like, I know a lot of people hate this phrase, but they were kind of like modern finishers, weren't they?

48:51Yes. Like to games rather than starters. And I think, and he was also going into a very competitive environment in that position at Villa as well, in a team that was competing on a number of different fronts. I actually felt like, I came away from that experience watching him thinking, if he had a full pre-season at a team and was away from that United environment. I don't think it's outrageous to say he might have a real big effect on someone at that level.

49:14Luke Moore: Yeah, I think he's worth a... So again, for Newcastle, with the amount of football they've got to play and they have been burned with a lot of injuries before and Gordon sometimes does, as you say, pick up bits and pieces. Yeah, all things considered, I think if they can do it with Manchester United paying most of the wages, maybe. I think if you get a good deal, then I think it's worth taking him. I just thought they might hone in on other positions, but maybe that's still to come. It's always a United problem because they've got so many players on such big wages. Landing spots are a problem.

49:44Luke Moore: That's right. A big problem. Indeed. Now, gentlemen, we've talked a lot about this Serie B relegation playoff business between Sampdoria and Salonita. How's it still going on? Well, it's turned into a saga. It's nearly August. Nearly the end of June. It's been rescheduled from tonight. I thought it was going to be done and dusted tonight, but it's been pushed back to Sunday night. after eight Salenitana players suffered from severe food poisoning. Right. They started to feel ill soon after their 2-0 loss to Sampdoria last Sunday and several people claimed they'd eaten a meal that had been prepared at the team hotel beforehand.

50:19Luke Moore: They had to cancel some training this week. They apparently, as soon as they got off the plane, a couple of them were hospitalised. The plane. Oh, God. Imagine that. Two toilets maximum. Sometimes a plane has to turn around and someone does a big stinking shit in the bog, doesn't it? Is that true? Yeah, it's happened, hasn't it? Has it happened? I don't know. Has it happened? It's happened. It's happened once, surely. No, I think it's happened. Honestly, it's happened like a couple of times. People have decimated the toilet to such an extent that they've had to turn back round because it's a public health hazard.

50:46Decimated. Yeah. You've really got to prioritise, haven't you? Bit of Jif Lemon. Look it up. I'm telling you, it happened. So God knows what that plane was like. I mean, it's reminiscent, isn't it, of the Spurs situation back in the day. Yeah, true. Lasagna Gate, which turned out to not be a lasagna, didn't it? It wasn't a lasagna. No, it's a myth. It turned out to be... So they tested the players afterwards and the only evidence they could find of anything... They all drank some expired milk. No, it was norovirus. I think it was norovirus.

51:09Luke Moore: That's often misconstrued as football. But obviously in that case, the Premier League refused to reschedule, didn't they? And they lost to West Ham in the end. They had to match Arsenal's result, didn't they? And Arsenal beat Wigan, I think it was. But this has given me those kind of vibes. But the league has accommodated Salon and Tana, hasn't it? Yeah, that's what I mean. They put it back a couple of days. So there we go. Is it a ruse? will the conspiracy theories never end in Italian football? Is it? No, absolutely not. Definitely not. No, absolutely not. Which is what Trump asked some of the Juventus players in the Oval Office.

51:38Yeah. It was like,

51:39Luke Moore: did you guys take the, you know, around that scandal? Let's talk about it now. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the Oval Office Luciano Mojie. My new corruption investigator. I'll tell you what, Gigi Buffon would have some views on that. He would. Right, Luke, let's finish the show with the Brant Adams update. So everyone would have heard yesterday's show, I hope, it's a Rumble Uncut episode that we put out there for public consumption because that's just how lovely we are. But we did a lot of Brian Adams chat, didn't we? Oh, we did. A friend of mine, Ed, a long-time listener to the show, Ed Tullett is also a singer-songwriter of some renown operating under the name of Low Swimmer.

52:18And he put a covers record out in November just gone. Ed Tullett and his mullet. I think he's a cue ball. He's completely shaven, head shaven. So not on my level. I would like to see that. But he put a record out just before Christmas, and the whole theme of the covers record was songs he used to love as a kid. That was the theme. Right. And he included in it, When You're Gone, Brian Adams featuring Mel C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And somehow, and we can share this link on the socials if people want to hear it, because it's on Spotify. Somehow, it wound its way to the obvious, and he just received an email out of the blue.

52:56Shout out. Just saying, love the low swimmer cover of When You're Gone Brian Adams my goodness wow and he got affirmation and he said and Ed would like to say he now thinks of Brian Adams as a certified good egg there we go

53:09Luke Moore: oh Badham's himself lovely stuff isn't it Badham's involved as he's now known yeah Peter we have to have a follow up from our discord with regard to Gareth Southgate potentially taking the Poland job you talked about what the Polish fans may sing right And we missed an open goal, didn't we? Let's be fair. Johnny Foley on Discord said, you missed a trick with a Polish atomic kitten chat. You can make me pole again. Nice. Although we never were originally, but still, we'll let it go. It's not about you, it's about the Polish fans. Exactly, but it feels like it's appealing directly to people who've somehow no longer consider themselves Polish.

53:48And they'll come back because Gareth's going to teach them the way.

53:51Luke Moore: The Polish diaspora in England would definitely get behind that. They would, absolutely, and rightly so. And rightly so, everybody. Good on them. thank you very much for listening to the Football Ramble part of the Acast creator network remember we're back today today that's right after this podcast we're double dropping an absolute box office return this is this is happening Luke's game is back presented by Pete I think yeah so Luke and I will be up against each other for Luke's game so Jack's Encyclopedia is having a rest this summer yeah Luke's game is filling in we're not going to leave you high and dry no you've got a game you've got a whole podcast dedicated to the game check it out in your podcast app this afternoon it's going to be A little bonus, a little Brucie bonus.

54:26A little weekend bonus. I'd say so. So does the weekend officially start at the end of this show or the end of that one? Oh, that's a good point. I think the weekend is up and running, I would say. Yeah. When Luke's game shows. So I'll tell you what it's like. It's like a house party when the pizzas turn up. That's right.

54:41Luke Moore: The party's carrying on. There you go. Now you've got pizza. Absolutely right. Make sure you subscribe to the Football Ramble in your podcast app so you do not miss it. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Thank you, Luke Moore. Thank you. Thank you, Pete Donaldson. Goodbye. And thank you, Renato Piva.

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