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4:35Marcus Speller: And I'm Vibhushina Hamtarajah.

4:48Welcome, one and all, to the Football Ramble. It's a terrific Tuesday, Vish, you have to say. Coventry City, there is no doubt about it, have fully arrived in the Premier League this season. They beat Newcastle United 4-1 last night. I tell you what, that is what we want to see from a Monday night football match. end-to-end, great goals and smiling faces.

5:12Marcus Speller: 100%. We want open football. We want engaging football. We want goals. We want chances. We want a clean game at the time of recording. No questions asked about either team. We're happy. We can believe what's in front of us. And yeah, it was a brilliant way to spend a Monday evening. Yeah, there's a team in blue and white who can do things properly. Come on. Yes, yeah. Anyway, Coventry City. I mean, their first ever Premier League victory at the CBS Arena, because of course they played at Highfield Road back in the old days. You've heard all the stats a lot last night and all the facts. Their first home Premier League goal scored in 25 years.

5:58What have they been doing since then?

5:59Marcus Speller: Mental, isn't it? Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, Emma Bunton was top of the charts last time they were doing this. So maybe they didn't. How much does that age you, by the way? Not even the Spice Girls, but Emma Bunton. They'd already broken up. Solo. Solo stuff. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Poor old Emma. But, you know, it was great while it lasted. But Coventry, they've got both feet under the desk now, the Premier League desk. And they've got back-to-back wins, of course, having lost their first four matches. this um we'll get into the to the details of the game uh in just just a moment but Vish having lost their first four games they weren't scoring they have turned that round either side of the international break of course this is just what the doctor ordered for Frank Lampard and his yeah 100 % um the atmosphere was pretty special um in the way that the the limbs at the um you know in the game away to forest um when the silver scores like that was an that was an incredible moment for their season and this in particular and it was a way that it it just kept going i mean it was you know i suppose the nature of our job is to not just assess the game but also what it might mean for coventry going forward but actually like i think we should allow ourselves to spend a bit more time in the moment because I think you know Radoni had a brilliant game but the fact that he was the one that put the penalty in having been one of their best players last season um the fact that it was it was built upon a lot of the players who were there last season I think regardless of um whether you win the championship as Coventry did or come through the playoffs you're always going to be the subject to people ruminating about whether you're going and go straight back down, whether you can do it with the same players who brought you up.

7:57Marcus Speller: And it kind of feels like top flight football makes you fickle. It makes you disregard your heroes because, yeah, you were great in the second tier, but can you cut it in the first tier? You immediately scrutinize them. And it was really nice for all those players to have that moment in front of those fans who would have adored them all of last season and the season before that as well. I also just love the fact that they were just ticking over loads of records as well. The fact that Sharif is their youngest goalscorer. And then one of their youngest goalscorers, then Mfouni at the end gets that absolute banger.

8:32Marcus Speller: And now he's actually their youngest Premier League goalscorer. Yeah, it was just a great evening. Yeah, on loan from Manchester City, of course. Yes, yeah. Get out of there, lad. Come on. Jump aboard the good Chip Coventry. His bargaining chip isn't the strongest. Please take me on a permanent after this, please. Yeah. You only have to pay me once. Just one contract at a time. Ellis Sims scored as well. His first Premier League goal since he scored against Chelsea for Everton. He's basically who I'm talking about. Yes, indeed. Such an important player for them last season. And there he was getting his goal as well.

9:12And Thomas Asante nearly scored when he had that rasper off the post. It was a game for long shots on goal, I feel. I mean, Sven Botman obviously scored a peach as well. You've talked about that. Sharif scored an absolute scud missile of a strike. But again, Newcastle will feel they should have scored more, perhaps. But for the neutral and for the Coventry City fans, this was a really, really entertaining game. I mean, it shows you that Coventry defender Bobby Thomas was awarded man of the match. In a game where they win 4-1, one of their defenders gets man of the match. I think that's reasonably telling on how kind of end-to-end it was.

9:51Marcus Speller: Yeah, and when they had him off on screen at the end of the game, well, you know, in the dregs of the game, when the commentator had awarded him player of the match, you know they do that thing where they bring up a table of all the different metrics where they were first in. It's one of the first time I've seen clearances. Yeah, okay, yeah. He made something like 14, 15 clearances. How do you make that many? That's great, isn't it? But that's bordering on emergency services stuff. Yeah, but that's what I mean. It's funny, this game, how it went. Because 4-1... I don't think 4-1 tells the story.

10:32Marcus Speller: No, 7-4 would have been an accurate story, yeah. As you said there, Newcastle should have got more goals, but College also should have scored more. So I'm going to revise my opinion on this game. Having enjoyed it, I feel robbed now. they've robbed us of about six goals. We've been shortchanged. So I feel this game will always look back on as the sort of what-if game for the neutral, perhaps. No, I think this, despite what happened on the weekend and the way certain teams celebrated, this was the day the Premier League died. When Coventry and Newcastle made us question what we were watching in front of our eyes, just the veracity of it.

11:16Marcus Speller: Is this legitimate? Is there something more here? Does this have any meaning at all? But there we are. Until that's all proved or not proved, we will bounce on Merrily. But, yeah, good win for Coventry.

11:34I, yeah, I mean, it is funny when you think about Bobby Thomas getting awarded man. Well, it's not funny. I mean, he earned that award. I mean, it's his first season in the Premier League after going through the leagues on loan with Barrow. I mean, mad to think Bristol Rovers and Barnsley. He's done all the Bs. Now he's moved on to C. He's just got to wait until Doncaster come up, or is there maybe a more obvious one I'm missing there?

11:59Marcus Speller: You couldn't even do Derby, could you? You couldn't bring yourself to do Derby. Couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. But Newcastle United, let's turn our attention to them because they played their part in this entertaining game. I'm reliably informed that Bobby Thomas was also at Burnley as well. So he really did do every single club that begins with B in the Football League at Marcus Speller. So, yeah, Newcastle United, I mean, they were beaten up, according to Jamie Carragher. And a lot of people were casting their minds back to when Newcastle United were beaten 4-1, sorry, by Leeds United at Ellen Road about a month ago.

12:37I think it was their last away match in the Premier League. This was a bit different. I think it was a little bit different because Leeds really hammered Newcastle United. And I feel Coventry City, I'm not sure Newcastle were outplayed, as some people were saying, but they were definitely outfought. And I mean, I forget which goal it was when Lewis Hall gets caught on that flank. It's the Sims goal. Yeah, it's a third one.

13:09Marcus Speller: Yeah, yeah. And there, Coventry, their desire, their physicality. We spoke about Coventry's physicality before the season started. They were very much signing physical players and obviously players with quality. I mean, you're not just a big bumbling oaf. You saw what Sharif did when he put the ball in the back of the net. They're obviously good players. And Lampard said with Sharif in particular, they've got real high hopes for him. But with Coventry, again, that physicality, they were prepared for it. You saw that in that little passage of play, the physicality, but also Newcastle. It basically took Joel Linton to nearly give away a penalty, then foul someone.

13:48He'd made at least one foul in that passage of play. But Coventry, again, the desire, the strength, and they get it through. And I just, with this Yaisal and Newcastle United side, they start the season pretty well, but you had that Leeds defeat, and now you've had this one. I mean he apologised didn't he Isler after the game to the fans I wonder if I mean what are they to do now because as I say they can play a little bit they'll be disappointed they didn't score more but I mean how did you assess their performance and the areas where they will be looking at Vish?

14:19Marcus Speller: I think you summed it up well there when you said it didn't feel like Newcastle were outplayed and they had loads of opportunities that they either missed as you said like Pardos you know he chose to round the keeper and Thomas clears it off the line. And there was a one at the near post where he leaves it for no one, which that was enjoyable. But he actually looked quite lively. They felt a bit out of sync. It was like they were strangers. You know, they were misplacing passes. They're playing the wrong kind of passes to people out wide. They were getting caught offside loads, especially people out wide.

14:56Marcus Speller: Harvey Barnes didn't seem to know what he wanted to do, which is strange for a player who feel like he's so direct at his very best the stuff you mentioned about fight there, I mean is it really that surprising that Newcastle are no longer the tenacious side that you usually expect them to be when you lose to Nali, Gimmarish even someone like Anthony Gordon who does so much work going back the other way yeah they were really disappointing, I thought it was there was also an element, you know you mentioned the way that Lewis Hall was dispossessed for that goal, I think there was also an element of like, to themselves thinking, you know, why are Coventry doing this to us?

15:37Marcus Speller: When Hall gets dispossessed on, you know, I suppose on the Newcastle left, he's holding off his man while looking at the referee. There's a point where he has the better of that battle, but he's like, he's almost kind of appealing in cricket. He's asking for the foul. Then he doesn't get it. And he's, you know, and there's a counter-attack and Sims ends up putting it in. But yeah, they're a really strange side because I, like you, well, I mean, as you say, they started well. I have kind of had that early season. I appreciate it's only six games in, but I have that early season impression of them.

16:15Well, look, it's a transitional year

16:17Marcus Speller: and they look like they've got the right guy in there for a bit of a rebuild. And then speaking to a couple of Newcastle mates and my brother yesterday, who's a Newcastle fan, they seem further along their tether than I thought they'd be. Interesting. And yeah, I don't know how much of that is just the anger of losing, you know, two games, 4-1, and losing this game in that manner, because they were really, really sloppy. But yeah, it's a really strange one. The fact that Joel Linton, that was his first appearance of the season, And when he comes in and, you know, his starting games, he will give them a bit more solidity in the middle.

17:00Marcus Speller: But they were just far too easy to play against and just really bad at all the things they do quite well. There was felt like there was very little pressure on the ball. And also the fact that they won't win. It didn't seem like they were winning any second balls either. Yeah. I mean, do you feel though with Newcastle and some of the fans maybe saying there that, you know, when they have the first few games of the season, they do all right when people are expecting them to struggle and people will start saying actually it's not that bad you're all right I thought it was going to be a lot worse than this but the fans who watch every minute of their matches and week in week out they're going oh yeah it's all it's you're from the outside looking in you're not seeing this from our point of view that yes okay results wise it's not been terrible but these performances as we saw away to Leeds and and last night.

17:50It's like they've been in the post kind of thing. You know, that is, you know, you rip out, you know, the heart of that midfield. You're not, I mean, Nico Gonzalez, he's a good player, obviously. I think there's a lot of chat, and I understand, again, this is, and I think this is the problem. This is the tension of the early part of the season. You're kind of thinking, well, give it some time. Let's see, you know, they've got to get fitted into a new system. And yet you can see other teams, you know, Hull City being the obvious one, where you kind of think, well, some teams hit the ground running.

18:24And in the Premier League, you have a bit of a sloppy start and you get into November. If you're still down there, then suddenly there's pressure on every game. And I don't know, I just wonder if people are thinking, hmm, okay, is Fernandes Pardo going to suddenly become amazing? You know, is Nico Gonzalez going to suddenly become a dominant fielder? Is this going to happen? Is that? There's a lot of question marks. Is that going to click? Is that going to happen? When you've got too many of those things that need to happen, that's when you start worrying. I'm a Fulham fan. That's exactly what's going on right there.

18:57And so, yes, it is possible. I don't think Newcastle United are going to get relegated. But I think those concerns are now quite obvious to the wider footballing public, if you like. So I don't think it's a disaster. And as I say, I don't think they're going to get relegated. But I do understand that some of them are thinking, ah, yeah, it's all very well neutral saying, come on, it's not that bad, but we're the ones that watch him. And it's more uninspiring perhaps than maybe what some others think.

19:28Marcus Speller: I thought Fernando Spardew looked quite good. Like beyond the misses, he's clearly like a front man you can hang your hat on. I suppose it's just everything around him. Yeah, I hope so. I think, you know, I mean, Harvey Barnes is, you know, I suppose Anthony Alanga when he's in there, these are experienced primary players, well, Joanne Wisser as well. I just feel that there's something that needs to link it together. There's goals there. Fernandes Pardo is not an out-and-out number nine. He was played there, of course. And from his movement, you can see that he can cause a bit of trouble. Is he going to score the goals that Newcastle United will need this season?

20:09And I wonder if he isolates, obviously he's probably still having a tinker there. Wisser can play slightly deeper. For me, I don't know. I know Wisser's not scored the goals at Newcastle yet. I would want him to be the man leading that line if that was me, Vish.

20:26Marcus Speller: Yeah, I wonder if there's a way of reworking that so that, like, Vish is dropping deep. It didn't mean he wasn't doing, like, he was holding up the ball quite well in patches, but he was almost doing he was almost rather than dropping back he was like why don't you just stay where you're going to drop back to and we can work around you and get runners forward it did feel like they lacked a bit of meaningful thrust which is a strange phrase yeah it's a strange phrase to say on a Tuesday morning normally that's on the Friday night on the dance floor yeah or a Thursday night it's obviously the new Friday True enough.

21:13Well, for the old school members of the football ramble community.

21:17Marcus Speller: Yeah, or Tuesday in Luxembourg. Whatever you're into, you know, go nuts. But yeah, you don't want to necessarily harp back to how things were, but the best available successful blueprint we have for Newcastle is with daring wingers and a really solid bastard of the midfield. And it's just, a lot of that stuff is just lacking, really. And, you know, is there an argument to make that, like, actually, why don't you try Pardo a bit withdrawn and, I don't know, like take a punt on Osula, like someone with that kind of pace who, you know, is at times like Bambi on ice, but does have a willingness to take on players.

22:07Yeah, I mean, I wonder if with Pardo and Wisser, if he tries to switch him around a bit, you know, when one drops deep, one goes. I don't know. That is definitely something that he's going to have to figure out, the Isler. But, you know, he's good options up there. And I think that after that international break and people were gagging for the Premier League to come back, maybe that's why some of these Newcastle United fans that you've been chatting away to Vish behind my back maybe that's why they're you know they're they're getting further along their tether than maybe some others

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24:59Coventry City themselves I mean Frank Lampard said they played like the team that he wants them to be and he called it a complete performance nice to see Frank Lampard happy again

25:12Marcus Speller: yeah yeah and he was like that was unfiltered joy wasn't it his scenes during the game at the end of the the end of the match I thought, you know, for all their physicality and, you know, their want of hitting the ball, being more direct, I thought there was a lot of touches of classes around that. I know we mentioned Rudoni as well, who gave a very, very nice post-match interview to Sky Sports. South London boy as well. Yes. I think he was briefly on the books at Crystal Palace and then AFC Wimbledon. That's right, yeah. But yeah, he looked a touch of class. I thought actually the ball for the penalty, or the ball that led to the penalty, so Brandon Thomas Asante basically like stuns this like curling ball just, you know, behind the Newcastle defence with only about like not a very small window to work with, both to get the ball through and also between the striker and the keeper.

26:13Marcus Speller: Hornacek should do better, but he makes him, I suppose he kind of provokes him to make the mistake and then eventually goes on and takes out Jarenki, I think. But there were loads of little moments like that. You mentioned before about Sherry's finish. That's an incredibly hard finish. His touch takes him away from goal. And he's basically got to get his right leg around and stun the ball and keep it low into the far corner. Obviously, it helps that it went through the population of Newcastle on the edge of that box. The angle from behind the goal is ludicrous. The fact that he doesn't take a single snick is crazy, really.

26:55Marcus Speller: But look at the subs they brought on and the way they were able to maintain that intensity. And that probably speaks to... Well, that definitely speaks to something that Lampard can be proud of and certainly he can be credited with. The fact that he brought on Sakamoto, who pressurises Hall to lose a ball for Coventry's 30. He's able to bring on Onyeka, which is quite a smart signing as someone who's got Premier League experience who can quiet down the game. And yeah, obviously Infoony gets that goal, but Sims, there's a lot of everything there that worked really well. Whether it's going to work long-term in the Premier League, we don't know.

27:39Marcus Speller: We'll just have to wait and see. But on Monday night, it was, I mean, it was brilliant. And they, like, I mean, they deserve all the headaches they've woken up with this morning. Yeah, very much so. I mean, speaking of subs, Newcastle United brought on Big Dan Byrne for the last few minutes. So they'll need him to get back if they're going to improve the defence, you might say. And this month, by the way, Vish Marks, the fifth anniversary of the Piff Posse's takeover of Newcastle United. How will you be celebrating this? will you be dressing up like a Saudi man, as so many of them did when the bit of posse arrived?

28:16Marcus Speller: Dressing up like a Saudi man.

28:22Oh, I tell you what, they were scenes of sorts.

28:26Marcus Speller: I'll go and fill up my car. There you are. In celebration, yeah. That's the spirit. It also marks five years since we last saw Steve Bruce in the Premier League. Lest we forget. You make it sound... Sorry, just going from Piff Posse to the last time we saw Steve Roof, you make it sound like we're still looking for him. Oh, Brucey. I hope he's having a lovely time. I hope he's recreating that photo where he was diving into the sea. On the slide. It was a diving board, not a slide. Is he employed somewhere at the moment? I don't know. Because the reason I say that is the England cricket team who have quite a big winter ahead of them.

29:09Marcus Speller: And he loves his cricket. You know, you remember, I think it was in 2022, where he delayed taking the Sheffield Wednesday job. To be fair, it's quite a sweet story. I think it was the one before that, so maybe 2019. But he delayed taking the Sheffield Wednesday job because he had originally organised to go to watch England play test cricket in the Caribbean with his old man. And then his old man passed away. So he did the trip in his honour. Oh, maybe that's where the photo's from, of him diving into the river. Yeah, it might be. Might be from there. Well, I honestly thought you were going to make a pitch for Steve Bruce taking control of the England cricket team.

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29:51Marcus Speller: Like it. A bacon ball. I thought you might. I thought you might. Well, Steve Bruce, yes, we haven't seen him in the Premier League for a little while. I don't know whether Reggie on Instagram had this in mind when he was asking us this question. But he says, now we're six games deep into the season, which clubs down the bottom of the league are you fearing for the most? Because Coventry City's win against Newcastle, obviously pushed Bournemouth into the bottom three, Coventry. Up in 14th, Vish, are you going to say Fulham like I am? No, I thought I'd leave you with Fulham. You know, far be it for me to pass judgment on someone else's house.

30:30Marcus Speller: So I thought I'd go with Palace. We mentioned it a bit on Monday's show, and I appreciate they did beat Nottingham Forest, but they looked quite bad. I don't... I'd love a 3-1 win where we look bad. Yeah. Mate, you're telling me. I'd love it if Manchester United beat Spurs 3-1 after that, you know, where they started that match. But they just, like, they won the game because Forest lost it. I know what you mean. And you look ahead to what they have for the rest of October. Bear in mind, we're almost halfway through the month. They've still got to play Brighton, Newcastle, Fulham and Spurs, interspersed with a load of Europa League matches.

31:23Marcus Speller: And I appreciate it. We've talked about how bad Newcastle were last night. You're about to talk about how poor Fulham were. Spurs, who knows, after Marbella, they might be all hung over. After celebrating their draw. Brighton, obviously, huge, huge derby match. And, you know, they look typical Brighton, really, really functional, really good. But they could come out, they could go into November in a bit of strife. And who knows, Sarge might be out of the job, given all the conversations that were happening before the international break. But they're a team that I've got an eye on for one to be worried about, certainly.

32:03Yeah, well, if anybody who is in the hierarchy of Fulham Football Club is listening, please start now. Be ambitious and go for Eddie Howe. And if not, and I think this is more realistic, let's bring brother Brendi home back to the Premier League. Come on.

32:20Marcus Speller: Who would you prefer out of the two? Realistically, Eddie Howe is not going to go to Fulham. He's going to probably, I would imagine, have a bit of a break from football and then a bigger job would probably present itself, you would think. So which club, just, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but like, what is that bigger job? So, well, a club who have similar ambitions to his Newcastle side when he was there. Is that Spurs, potentially? Like, I'm not saying that De Zerbe is... Well, a club who... But is it like that? Well, a club who have realistic ambitions of achieving European football.

32:57And they may not... So in the case of Spurs, I mean, I think De Zerbe's safe there. But let's take Spurs. Spurs, despite their performances, even though they were better at Old Trafford, of course, and despite their league position, they still have a squad that you get them playing. they could finish in the European spots this season. I don't think they'll be finishing in the Champions League, but I think quite clearly Spurs have a more talented squad than, say, Fulham, for example, which is why Howe would be, if indeed our belower is to be sacked, which, to be honest, if this carries on, you would say that the writing is very, very close to being on the wall for him.

33:36But if Howe is free, considering what Howe did with Newcastle, they were playing in the Champions League semi-regularly. they want to leak up. It is a little bit above what, what, what Fulham have, well, have done in their history, quite frankly, even though under Silva, Silva was close to getting them into Europe. Or so I think somebody like, I mean, I know I sort of joke around and say Brendan Rogers, but if say Brendan Rogers fancied coming back and Arbeloa has been sacked, there's a lot of ifs and buts here. I wouldn't worry about relegation if Fulham got in Brendan Rogers. And I think that if it does keep going badly for Arbeloa, you have to pull the trigger reasonably soon because you go, oh, well, let's see it.

34:17Let's give him another January transfer window and so on. If it's not improved in the next month or so, just the way it's going and what he's doing, I can't see that improving. So you might as well write, okay, let's get a new manager in who has an incoming January transfer window, you know, soon enough. And you need to get someone who you appoint and everyone goes, oh, they should be okay now. That's what you've got to do. So, I mean, Palace may well find themselves in that situation soon-ish, but I don't think, because they quite literally picked up some wins this season, you know?

34:53Marcus Speller: Yeah. You know, I know Bournemouth haven't, but I don't know. Again, Bournemouth fans might think I'm talking absolute twaddle here, but I feel that they've been a little bit unlucky and they've been better than what some of their results have suggested. But as I was saying earlier with Newcastle United, it could be a case with that. So, you know, forgive me, Bournemouth fans, if I'm doing that. To me, Fulham are the ones who are really struggling. Hull City have been great. Ipswich just beat Fulham. You know, they got some wins. And Hull City, you can't imagine them getting relegated the way they've started the season.

35:24So it's going to be cutthroat at the bottom of the Premier League this season. There's going to be no whipping boys. So you've got to now adjust your sights accordingly if you're down there. And I think Fulham are the ones because of how it's been going. And it was a total experiment with this sort of Spanish experiment, if you like, the players they brought in, very young and very slight in comparison, the opposite of what Coventry have done with the physicality. And so far, yes, early days, but so far, it's not been working really at all, other than the odd sort of 20-minute spell here and there.

36:00But as I said before, anybody, any team in the Premier League is capable of putting a 20-minute spell together.

36:05Marcus Speller: Yeah, yeah. Bloody Spaniards. trust them too much I know maybe he needs to put maybe Fulham need to change their kit to Spain kits and then and then then we can do it Spain kit smaller plates can't really play bigger ambitions yeah can't really play 3pm's kick-offs because you'll be asleep then start playing your games at 11pm there we are There we are. The only problem with the Spain kits, though, I feel that's quite treacherous, considering when the same Nations League group as them. But anyway, discussions to be had there. Good point. Yeah, well made. Thanks for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the ACAR's Creator Network.

36:50Vish and I will be back with David Cartlidge tomorrow to react to all the Champions League action that is happening this evening. Manchester United in action, of course, away to Atletico and Arsenal at home to Lille. And just two fixtures that are happening. If you want to know more, then Google it yourself. Lots of love. We'll see you tomorrow. Ta-ta for now.

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