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3:01Pete Donaldson: When I go forwards, you go backwards, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble. Wins for the top two and a signal for Burnley. It's Monday, 2nd of March. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Jim Campbell. I'm Marcus Speller. And I'm the defensive hunter-watcher. I can't be confused then.

3:25Vish Khanna: Would you like to do that again? No. I was enjoying the Radiohead lyric so much that in my head I was singing electioneering. And yeah, that's why that happened. He's Pete Donaldson.

3:36Pete Donaldson: I'm Pete Donaldson. He's back from, where did you go?

3:40Vish Khanna: Moldova. And more specifically. Transnistria. Transnistria. Actually, more specifically, Pridnastrovje. Right. And you had a lot of meat. It's just a lot of meat, man. Interfered with your stomach.

3:50Marcus Speller: A lot of borscht, a lot of lard, a lot of meat. I am full of meat. Does it feel like a penalty box during a corner in your stomach? It's chaos.

3:59Vish Khanna: Specifically, Arsenal versus Chelsea. Dan Burns getting manhandled. Yes.

4:03Pete Donaldson: Did you come back with any Soviet weaponry?

4:06Vish Khanna: No, no, no. The annoying thing is, in Transitya, as people who don't live in Transitya call it, you have to buy new money. And I didn't have enough new money to get back over the border. I'll get back over the border and buy all me bits and bobs in Moldova. Okay.

4:22Pete Donaldson: Did you declare any of these bits and bobs?

4:24Vish Khanna: There was no weaponry in my bag. Okay. There was a small frog that I bought my daughter. Why are you winking at me? And a lipstick for my partner. Okay.

4:32Pete Donaldson: What is the lipstick? Oh, fine. All right. Hello, everybody. It's Monday. It's Monday. What a Monday it is. We've got Pete here. We've got the other two. And we've got some football chat. And now, oh, I tell you what. I want to give everybody a reminder, Vish, before you have your toppance worth. about all the football chat, that if you want this show and every other episode of the Football Ramble completely ad-free, then go to patreon.com forward slash football ramble. You also get a bonus episode every single week. You get access to the famous Football Ramble Discord and early access to new merch, short for merchandise.

5:03Pete Donaldson: What more could you bloody want for just five buckaroonies a month? Head to patreon.com forward slash football ramble right now to become a friend of the Ramble. Arsenal 2, Chelsea 1. Three points for the Gunners. Yep. They're five points clear at the top of the Premier League. Yes, Man City have a game in hand. But my goodness, this was a big win for your boys, Jim Campbell.

5:23Jim Campbell: Yep. It was another incredibly stressful three points where at the end of the game, you have to sort of remind yourself that you won because you're just full of mad adrenaline at the end of it. I think Arsenal played really, really well in that first half. Probably should have capitalised on the kind of territorial domination they managed to have. And as has been the case so often, later on lived dangerously oddly when Chelsea went down to 10 men as they are going to do apparently this season nine times now seven in the Premier League alone two against Arsenal yeah absolutely got in the reds yeah absolutely mad and in the referee's pocket yeah and in their lunging tackles for some reason yeah it was it was a nervy ending but we're sort of used to that now yeah so yeah a strange one A strange one It's over It's over It's not The three points It's over

6:21Pete Donaldson: Every couple of days There's another one If you want this title mate This is what you have to do To get in Why don't you be like Fulham and me Look at us Relaxed Fulham and me Fulham and me Taylor Fulham approach Remember everybody It's just a game Yeah exactly

6:35Vish Khanna: That's the autobiography Fulham and me

6:37Pete Donaldson: Vish how did you see it I mean it was It was a big old duel With those corner kick routines That both teams had Wasn't it

6:43Marcus Speller: Yeah Yeah I thought that Chelsea started well and also could have started better because I feel like every time they got the ball it was like they were trying to do an impression of a calm football team because there were actually points where I thought they could have got forward quicker when they did have the ball but it was almost like they didn't want to be counted so they didn't really commit all the way when it would have been something as simple as like just play a pass down the line to Gio Pedro who I thought was really impressive all game considering what he was up against I thought Cole Palmer was a bit off it in that first half as well and it just felt like they were all standing in the right places they didn't quite believe in what they were going to have to do to achieve a positive result and it was only as full time comes in closer to view whether that's the start of the second half or even after going down to 10 men that they were like, okay, if we get a goal now and we go level, there's only so much they can do in 15, 20 minutes.

7:50Marcus Speller: So that was almost their way of preserving the game, which was a bit of shame. I thought it was going to be better. I thought it was just going to be more enjoyable. And that's on both sides. But I think ultimately it felt a bit like men versus boys. There was a smart team and there was a dumb team. And the smart team was in red.

8:08Vish Khanna: And a more poorly organized team as well because just the way that they can see pretty much every match after a defensive free kick they just didn't there wasn't real trouble for the World Frontier situation and Arsenal took a damage of that

8:20Pete Donaldson: yeah no I take your points although just go back to what you said there Vish about a dumb would Chelsea that dumb I thought they equipped themselves well in the second half you got to factor the red card

8:29Jim Campbell: into the dumbness right

8:30Pete Donaldson: is that what you're referring to and the poor free kick I mean they were they were looking like the more likely to score when it was 1-0 and then okay Jim's right to say the red card obviously changes stuff But they just, I thought they, it's probably contained within a few select people.

8:48Marcus Speller: Because even Robert Sanchez, it was a bit like a bloke who'd...

8:51Pete Donaldson: And the goal came before the red card, by the way.

8:54Marcus Speller: Yeah, but it was just all the pressure that he was getting to see him under. It was almost like, you know, he's preparing for a play, but he didn't learn any of the lines.

9:03Jim Campbell: But Arsenal really got in his head by just pressing him hard a lot. And he kind of looked fairly composed, but then he would make a really bad pass and put them under pressure. That happened a few times.

9:13Marcus Speller: Yeah, but I think he was dwelling on the ball. I think they were cutting off his options to pass to rather than him specifically. But at the same time, just kick the ball, man. Stop. It was, yeah. I thought it was one of the worst goalkeeping performances I've seen from anyone in the league this season against one of the best on the other side.

9:33Pete Donaldson: Yeah, right. I've made some very impressive. I mean, yeah, I thought that Chelsea, they equipped themselves differently to when they went there, of course, in that League Cup semi-final, Petey. But, you know, they went toe-to-toe, especially with the set pieces.

9:45Vish Khanna: If that race penalty should have been... Well, I was going to say,

9:49Pete Donaldson: there was Rice holding, which could have been given. Was it Saliba when it ends up with David Ryan producing one of those fine saves of his?

9:57Jim Campbell: I thought Arsenal were quite fortunate there. The thing with the Rice one, though, is that that goes out for a corner and Chelsea score from it anyway, right? So, I mean, that's... Yeah, couldn't have known. I mean, you're grinning, but if the penalty had been given, then the goal from the corner doesn't happen does it? I'm not saying that I think that's a convenient No, no, no, it's not because essentially that's one or either way Jim, it's convenient

10:19Pete Donaldson: because the decision is either given or not and if it's not given it's a howler or not whatever happens after that is convenient or inconvenient I thought Arsenal got away with that

10:27Jim Campbell: Sure, they did but if they hadn't got away with that then the goal from the corner doesn't happen that's what I'm saying

10:32Pete Donaldson: So, I'm drilling down whether the referee should have given it or not and I felt that And I'm saying that it's not going to have affected that element of the game. Okay, fine. So with the Saliba one as well, I think Arsenal were slightly fortuitous. You know, Saliba is... He's holding Jao Pedro. He's holding Jao Pedro indeed. And I think it showed you that Chelsea had clearly planned to do what Arsenal often do to other teams. They were going near post rather than far post. And I thought that was an interesting approach. I think that Chelsea, again, the way that, you know, they've been a bit of a funny side this season.

11:03Pete Donaldson: I know they're fifth in the table or sixth in the table, still alive in Europe, et cetera, and so on. And an experienced manager in terms of Premier League and a young squad and da-di-da-di-da. But I thought this performance showed you that they can mix it up. They can get under the skin of currently the best team in the league because they're top, right? And I thought that parts of that were quite impressive, what they did. Overall, yes, Arsenal probably good value for the win, ultimately. But on another day, I think, you know, that could have turned out differently.

11:40Marcus Speller: I think it turns out differently from the start of the game, though, because, like, yeah, to be fair, I was probably a bit harsh on them. But in the first half, when Enzo was out left and Rhys James was moving into midfield, and they were able to create that space for Cole Palmer initially before Gabriel had to step up.

11:57Pete Donaldson: They've been doing that quite a bit to decent success recently.

12:00Marcus Speller: But they did it successfully against the most, you know, consistently a team that have been the most well-prepared in the league for every match they have, you know, this season, which is why they are top of the league. Yeah. And in that moment, that's kind of what I was alluding to before about, I think they did that well, but they just had to be a little bit more ambitious, I think, certainly with their passing anyway, or their progression.

12:23Pete Donaldson: Well, that's it. I think Chelsea do lack a little bit of cutting edge. I mean, Girard Pettit is a good player, but for a starting sort of out and out number nine I think you want him I think you want someone else up there with him really and Liam Dillap's they hope is going to be that player although it's not happening is it yeah the early I know he's maybe that's harsh young player injured a lot you know we'll see but right now Liam Dillap is not

12:44Jim Campbell: that guy he doesn't really look like the player even from last season does he he's not he's not managed to kick on he's been a bit unlucky with injuries and I'm sure there's more to come from him but yeah

12:52Pete Donaldson: I'm reluctant to criticise and say he's not going to be because I think That is very premature.

12:58Jim Campbell: He's not really pushing Gio Pedro for that spot, is he? Which is the real kind of test of that.

13:02Pete Donaldson: Where we find ourselves right now. Yeah, absolutely.

13:05Jim Campbell: But yeah, I thought it's been interesting given that Arsenal have played Chelsea so much since Liam Rossini took over. This is the third time he's played them. It's one draw and two defeats from his perspective. He's done something quite different each time. They've had a couple of draws in the league recently where you'd think, you know, maybe they should have won those games. And obviously the disciplinary issues are really costing them at the moment. I think their position in the league table is directly tied to that. They could be higher up if they could just get that sorted out. And it's, you know, Rhys James was saying, it was put to him, is it something you need to discuss internally?

13:38Jim Campbell: I was like, yeah, obviously it is, but it's different players every time. There's some weird thing in the Kool-Aid going on there. They're rotating the red cars. It's like, no, you don't do that. That's not a good plan.

13:49Marcus Speller: Someone made a suggestion yesterday that off the back of Neto's reaction to his second yellow, that he didn't realise he was booked the first time? Right, right. Which actually explains the nature of the tackle. Possibly. Because he's not a moron. And also Neto is the kind of player who's been on the other end of those fouls. So he knows how much they cost,

14:09Jim Campbell: you know, literally in terms of caution. He really was remonstrating with the referee for quite a long time. Yeah. When you're banged to rights after a tackle like that if it's your second year, that makes so much sense.

14:18Marcus Speller: Yeah, and so he clearly wasn't complaining about that. But then that goes back to the moronic bozo nature of some of these Chelsea performances, or certainly the individual performances, that he didn't know he was on a yellow card.

14:29Pete Donaldson: Well, that's madness. I mean, speaking of sharing cards, I felt Chelsea were doing that. There was a couple of times, wasn't there? And I'm sure in the stadium, it would have been maddening.

14:37Marcus Speller: The Cole Palmer one of Saka was brilliant because I don't know if you watch the NBA, but there are those kind of fouls that happen at the end of the game, just the same thing to slow it down. Yes, yes, yes. And they're as deliberate as Palmer's one where he pulled him down in front of the referee and almost went to the referee. You do see this. you see a foul you should probably blow up for this it's almost like

14:56Pete Donaldson: American football stuff lying proper off the ball to be honest it's those types of fouls which I think completely off the ball you're not even like you're not even fouling the guy who's running for the ball I honestly if it was just like red card sod off I don't think too many people would complain but clearly that's not the way it is now but it almost was like they were sharing the cards out because every time Arsenal went to break there was the referee they were doing it and the referee could have let it go he could have even let that one go with with Neto when he got given the red card. There were quite a few of them.

15:28Marcus Speller: Yeah, there was a number of ones.

15:29Pete Donaldson: I mean, that must have been maddening for everyone in the stadium.

15:31Jim Campbell: The most frustrating thing, actually, from the referee's performance was there were a couple of occasions where David Rea makes a throw and he finds an Arsenal player in space. There's a break. Rea's been fouled in the build-up and the referee pulls it back. It's like, play the advantage, man. Play the advantage. Even Martinelli jumped up after the Neto foul. You can play the advantage in that situation. There were so many occasions. Very strange. It's very busy. I think it's interesting, from my point of view, obviously, the story of this game is what happened after the red card and how, as we've seen a few times this season, Arsenal's passing game completely collapsed.

16:04Jim Campbell: Chelsea did a really great job, somehow, of controlling the game with one man fewer. They were putting Arsenal under lots of pressure, managed him to get lots of corners. Saliba had to make a great recovery tackle. Gabriel made a really good tackle. David Rea makes a really good save late on. It's like, why is this happening? one few player

16:23Vish Khanna: to sort of worry about a red card if you're losing players to red cards the other players aren't going to get as many

16:29Jim Campbell: or less if you will they might chin us at any second

16:33Pete Donaldson: I think that's it Jim I think for the neutral watching it you're seeing as you say the side who are top of the league at home a goal up a man up why is the dynamic of the game ending up like this it might be the subs

16:46Jim Campbell: I don't know I think the midfield I think it's much more

16:49Pete Donaldson: I think it's bigger than that it's probably to do with the nerves because you talked about this against Arsenal against Wolves when they went to the Molyneux, and again, they're 2-0 up and cruising, and it's like, right, let's hold on to this. But we don't really know how to hold on to this. Ah, we're under attack. Oh, they've scored. We're in trouble. And you kind of think, well, that's the side of the bottom of the league. You know, like, what's going on here? And we've seen this a number of times with Arsenal. We're also seeing it with Man City, by the way. And we're going to mention that we're going to see this, which is why, if I make a bigger point, again, thinking of us neutrals here, the title race is intriguing because every game now, Arsenal and Man City, the odd exception, are clawing over the line.

17:27Pete Donaldson: And they can both be got at. But with Arsenal, it has to be, and with Man City as well, but with Arsenal, it has to be a mindset. It has to be the nerves and everything coming in. Again, you see that with Man City. I don't want to be harsh on Arsenal here, but to me, that's what it is.

17:40Jim Campbell: Yeah, I mean, there's obviously an element of it. I think there was, as I said, it was only an element yesterday. I think there's a point where they stopped trying to score a third goal, thinking, okay, we'll just manage the game now. which translated as let's let them have a dance which seems really really mad but I do think possibly Rice coming off the Norgard meant there was too much space in midfield I think it was a little bit of a disconnect between Norgard, Zubermendi and Eze and Chelsea were getting a lot of joy in that position but Rice was giving away corners though that was mad as well he had a couple of odd moments there was some really clownish moments from both teams in this game finally we've seen Declan Rice look like he's fatigued

18:18Marcus Speller: he has scored a couple of bangers on that side of the Emirates as well hasn't he he has is that what he was doing he's going to be a third yeah

18:24Jim Campbell: also great they all count they do but great to hear

18:28Marcus Speller: fucking ticks over to March March in a World Cup year he's like oh Declan Rice is looking knackered brilliant well done Jim thanks enjoy the title fucking hell

18:37Pete Donaldson: and well done Vish for looking at the big team thank you you could have seen this off by like February yeah you could have given everyone

18:43Marcus Speller: a lovely rest yeah

18:44Pete Donaldson: sorry everyone yeah well apology accepted but yes

18:48Vish Khanna: I can't even play a saccharine to form jeez

18:50Pete Donaldson: although actually

18:52Marcus Speller: that you mention him he was pretty tidy

18:55Jim Campbell: he was really good last week as well

18:57Marcus Speller: I think it's I think like in terms of the nerves you know it's always easy to say bring on someone who'll play the ball about but you need other players to play the ball too sure and I thought kind of off the back of that I thought saccharine's performance was really good because I kind of I've watched him you know in the last month or so and wondered if he like he's just trying to play himself out of form which is actually very respectable and a very commendable way of trying to do it and this game felt a bit more like and it might have been because there were people closer to him but it felt a bit more like actually yeah I can play one touch with Deza I can you know go around the outside and get Timber on the underlap or overlap but it felt a bit more like I don't know it felt quite a grown up performance from him I know he's a mature player anyway but this felt an extra level yeah

19:44Pete Donaldson: Yeah, I think that's fair. But look, it was a victory for Arsenal. Went all said and done. Yeah, it was an important one. It was an important one.

19:51Vish Khanna: Those ones were going to get spicy, and it did. Yes. It was sending off. That's right, that's right.

19:54Pete Donaldson: Before we move on to Manchester City, did you see that Todd Bowling was speaking about his transfer strategy over the weekend? Quite honest from Big Todd this. He said, having taken over in the circumstances that we did, basically the whole management team left. I was stuck being interim sporting director. I love that, interim sporting director. Oh, I'm stuck here in this overnight garage.

20:15Marcus Speller: I've got to pay myself another wage. Damn it!

20:19Pete Donaldson: I mean, you remember though when he came in, it was quite an odd situation with Boley in there. But yeah, he was stuck being interim sporting director for a summer, having no idea what made a good player. Admit that.

20:31Vish Khanna: Yeah, brilliant.

20:31Pete Donaldson: Amazing that he's admitted that. He certainly came across as that at the time. I'm glad we've got confirmation. He said, but knowing that Mark Correa, if Man City wanted him, I want him. It was really simple that way.

20:41Jim Campbell: and to be fair to him that has actually worked out really well because Mark Cuccarello has been a really important player for them and he's obviously a really good player but it does sort of just follow other people's scouting networks just don't bother it does sort of confirm that suspicion as you suggest there Mark is that they were really just sort of flying blind and just kind of seeing what happened

20:58Pete Donaldson: I think one might be surprised how many football clubs not always but have and often do with regard to transfers sometimes go about it we know that there's a huge scouting networks and blahdy blahdy blah and clubs like Brighton, for example, much has been made about the way they do their business. At Brentford as well and so on and so forth. But sometimes...

21:20Vish Khanna: When a big blue chip kind of company rolls in and wants a bit. Yeah.

21:23Pete Donaldson: Yeah. Sometimes it is just a case of he's seen him playing and goes, I like the vibe of that guy. I like the look. You know, how else can I... He doesn't like the look. Yeah. I mean, again, without giving too much away, I know somebody who said that one of the bigwigs at a particular Premier League club would often phone him and he's one of the heads of the sort of fan groups and so on. And he would phone him and just sort of say, do you know what we're thinking of signing this guy and that guy and so on? And this fellow said to me, it dawned on me that he was basically canvassing our opinion on that.

21:56Pete Donaldson: Like the fan group, you know, which again, like, in one sense, is not the worst thing in the world kind of thing. But you kind of go, bloody hell.

22:03Vish Khanna: Feels like the worst thing in the world. Well, yeah.

22:06Marcus Speller: Almost like a word of curry favor with fans. I just thought We want to spend loads of money On some of your favourite players Who don't play for us Yeah It's funny how it works But do you remember at the time When Chelsea bought Caicedo And then Lavia Yeah It was immediately after Liverpool Open talk with both those players Yeah So Liverpool did it with Caicedo And then Chelsea came in And took him And Liverpool were like Right we'll move on to Lavia And Chelsea We'll have him as well then Yeah

22:34Pete Donaldson: Mind you they've been doing it for a while John Obi-Miquel Yeah that was a strange one anyway let us move on to Leeds United 0 Manchester City 1 Antoine Semenyo scored again 6th goal in 11 games for Man City I mean he's just it doesn't matter what shirt you put him in I've said it and remember England are playing Gardner at the World Cup Jim yeah ok was that what you were going to say

22:55Jim Campbell: no I'm going to move on from that immediately I've said a few times since they signed Semenyo he is a player who gets you points and we are seeing it in effect so often that's just 6 goals in just 11 goals for them. He is absolutely fantastic player. Can I just say though that the real story is that Peter Banks is an enemy of football for sending off Daniel Farker. That is outrageous. Why?

23:20Vish Khanna: Why is it outrageous? Because he's a big care bear. Because he is a big care bear.

23:23Pete Donaldson: Yeah but he went though didn't he? He did go. That bear everyone was reminded oh but it is ultimately a bear. Probably just wanted some honey. Maybe Jim.

23:32Vish Khanna: Maybe he had honey on his foot that time that he sort of caught the ball. Yeah maybe that would help wouldn't it? he should start wearing trousers though

23:38Marcus Speller: he has to start wearing trousers

23:41Pete Donaldson: in public spaces when he charged onto the pitch at full time it was the wag of the finger I think the referee understandably shat himself I thought my only defence here is a red card that isn't sure brown bear sit down, white bear like a priest in the exorcist Daniel Farker

24:02Vish Khanna: I don't know what the rhyme is for Daniel Farker

24:04Pete Donaldson: You throw something. Daniel Farker, Scarpa.

24:08Vish Khanna: Scarpa. Yeah, that's good. There you are.

24:10Pete Donaldson: Because he brought out that red card very early. I think Farker wasn't even in breathing distance from him.

24:15Vish Khanna: He was like, get away. He's not going to know that he's got that red. Yeah, he did, yeah.

24:20Marcus Speller: There was a moment before where Ethan Ampadu went to stop him, clearly. Stopped Farker. He was clearly like, gaffer. I can't do anything. You don't stop Farker. Yeah.

24:30Pete Donaldson: But talking to the title racers, I mentioned Man City earlier. again like the chances Leeds had Dominic Calvert-Lewin early on he had a really really big one

24:39Jim Campbell: but they were battering Man City I mean battering might be too

24:41Pete Donaldson: but they were in the game weren't they they made it a fight and again Man City you know as the game went on there was that relief I think you notice that every time Arsenal and Man City win at the moment unless I appreciate you know Arsenal beat Leeds 4-0 and you know Man City beat Fulham 3-0 at home you know they weren't relieved you know it was obvious it was going to be three points but it's often by the odd goal and both teams and both sets of supporters and managers they do have

25:07Jim Campbell: they do breathe a sigh of relief because there is a sense that for both teams you just have to win every game every single drop point is a disaster regardless of the how difficult the tie is regardless of the circumstances of the game so if you win it feels like alright cool job done if you lose it feels like a disaster because of how tight it is I think for both teams at this stage of the season there isn't that sense of yes come on we've got a bit of a cushion there So I would imagine it's making for a fairly interesting title race for the neutral. It certainly is. It is frustrating at times from here, but I'd rather it was like this.

25:42Pete Donaldson: You'd rather win it than not. Indeed. Said the Fulham fan. Look, Man City did this without Erling Haaland, of course, who didn't want to disrespect his father. So he didn't look at him. The city of his birth. Haaland wasn't there. There were loud boos during a short stoppage for Ryan Cherky, Ryan Aitnuri, and Omar Mamouche as they broke their fast for a Ramadan midway through the first half. Pep Guardiola said afterwards, well, he was just... Literally saying what was happening. Yes, he was dismayed by the reaction of some of the fans.

26:13Jim Campbell: It's one of those situations where by simply explaining what happened, you criticise it. Because it was appalling.

26:20Pete Donaldson: It was on the big screen, wasn't it? Yeah. At Ellen Road, and it was explained.

26:26Vish Khanna: Yeah, I mean, I think the commentators on the live broadcast try to explain it whereas the fans don't know what's going on. But they do know what's going on because it's on the screen. So there's not really much of an issue on that end. And it's a safety issue. You're not eating or drinking for that many hours. You're going to need something. It's unfortunate to be expected in this country at this moment.

26:42Jim Campbell: There are players of all kinds of different faiths and backgrounds in the Premier League. And everybody is cheering those players in their teams when it suits them. And obviously, we've got a wider rhetoric in society now that's encouraging this sort of behaviour, particularly publicly in these situations, sadly. I'm just glad it's been so widely called out because it's embarrassing Have we had one of these before?

27:03Vish Khanna: I don't recall

27:04Marcus Speller: We've had breaks before Since 2021 we've had breaks especially for evening games because even some of the games that are going to happen in midweek 7.30, 8.30 7.30, 8.30 That would be after people have broken their fast I you know we'll probably get comments about it but like obviously it wasn't all Leeds fans it wasn't everyone in the ground there would just I suppose just yeah from my experiences anyway there'll be some people who generally didn't know what it was about and there were some people who were generally opposed to it and obviously like some of the reaction there are a lot of people called about and a lot of people have been like well actually you know this isn't a Muslim country we shouldn't be doing this no we should because it's just a good thing to do isn't it it's just a very considerate thing to do

27:54Vish Khanna: I get a concussion protocol. They've not eaten all day. They've not drank all day.

27:58Marcus Speller: But it's just like, if we can stop the game to view if a shoulder's offside, this is not impinging on anyone's game. I was going to say,

28:12Pete Donaldson: it's not like we're going to take a short break so that these players can go off and have a three-course meal.

28:17Marcus Speller: Yeah, but they're having it in the middle of the pit. Get the dates out. Vine leaf anyone? They should do that. Yeah, that would be good. Big old, big old, big old, what do you call it? People shouldn't be worried about other cultures coming in here and trying to impinge on a...

28:38Vish Khanna: You are like dinner, don't you?

28:40Jim Campbell: Fourth, fifth, we've got the board and it's just a menu. Oh, that or kebab's a problem, is it?

28:46Pete Donaldson: And then as soon as the meal's finished, they go, right, finally, those players are then subbed off.

28:51Marcus Speller: They're just going to need to go for a walk. I am stuffed

28:56Pete Donaldson: Stitches all round

28:57Marcus Speller: Right coming up after this

29:01Pete Donaldson: We've got not one but two Seven goal thrillers

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31:51Vish Khanna: We still give a go. We still have chances. We still have a lot of set pieces. We still put pressure on them. So, as I said to the boys after the game, I'm I'm I'm fucking hate to lose but I'm so proud of them

32:04Pete Donaldson: Sheffield Wednesday manager Henrik Pedersen there after Sheffield Wednesday lost their 13th game in a row but good to see there's some fighting talk in there

32:11Vish Khanna: yeah he has got in trouble for fighting talk before swearing worse than that oh dear read his Wikipedia which is what I have just done right crack on okay

32:22Pete Donaldson: thanks to Friend of the Ramble Tito for sending us that clip you can become a Friend of the Ramble too search patreon.com forward slash football ramble or click that join button on YouTube to get involved. Right then, Burnley 3, Brentford 4. Oh, Burnley. A sick one.

32:38Vish Khanna: Oh, no. Lovely tidy winner, though. You can't be angry at that lovely tidy winner.

32:44Marcus Speller: Yeah, I think that's what they were saying as a Burnley fan.

32:47Jim Campbell: Fair play.

32:48Vish Khanna: Come on, guys.

32:49Jim Campbell: Credit where it is due. What do you get?

32:51Marcus Speller: You've got seven official goals? You've got three chocked up? Enjoy it.

32:55Pete Donaldson: You've got a lovely day out. Crying out loud. You've got seven official goals? official goals the modern era ladies and gentlemen

33:01Marcus Speller: honestly if that was if that was my team having that kind of spirited performance having two goals ruled out for you know offside and handball I would generally even in March just be like you know what fuck it we'll see you in the championship in August but Vish what more can we do I mean they are

33:21Pete Donaldson: they are what is it I mean inches centimetres away from going 4-3 up if they won that game I'm sorry to say this, Burnley. You know what I'm going to say. If they win that game, they're five points from safety. Yeah, it's on if they win that game. Even, I mean, you get a draw, you're seven points. I understand. But this is the thing with Burnley, right? There is a bit of fight there and Fleming himself, who was in the thick of it, said, you know, we're going to try and do something extraordinary. Of course, but I'd like just to hear those words, you know. And they, it seems very unlikely. I understand it.

33:51Pete Donaldson: And people have written them off for so long and I understand why. Out of 28 games of the Premier League this season, they've only won four. but they do have a fighting chance. You're duty bound to say that as unlikely as it is. But this is a signal.

34:04Jim Campbell: They're so unlucky in this game. I think obviously when Fleming's goal was ruled out I was kind of confused as to what happened and it's the one where it's Jadon Anthony's shoulder. And it's really tight and I know that the reason that that's disallowed is because you can technically score a goal with a shoulder. Perhaps this is overthinking it but could there not be a rule in place that if you score with your shoulder and your shoulder is offside, then it's ruled out. But in a situation like this, crack on. Do you know what I mean? If you didn't score it,

34:33Vish Khanna: if you didn't get an advantage

34:34Jim Campbell: for having your shoulder onside. Yeah, because it's just such a specific thing. I know, Jim, but you know what I'm going to say. You've got to draw the line somewhere, of course. But do you not think in the... I know this is a very niche, specific situation that almost never happens. And for that reason, doesn't it seem like it's worthwhile?

34:51Vish Khanna: Why if the players see the shoulder that's offside and they know it's offside? Yeah, what if, like,

34:56Marcus Speller: Like the strap is off and it's like a sexy shoulder. What if you're wearing a distracting sexy shoulder?

35:01Pete Donaldson: What if you're wearing one of those Cameroon tops that weren't actually allowed when the shoulders were out? You see, Jim, you haven't thought about that. I still had their shoulders though, didn't I?

35:08Jim Campbell: But when they banned from whatever they were competing in for wearing those. Too sexy again. You can't be too sexy on a football pitch.

35:16Pete Donaldson: But it's so boring to say this, but this is the problem. When VAR came in, you realise, and we are reminded this weekly now, that there is the law and the spirit of the law. And that is what offside was. If you're going to draw the line. The spirit of the law. With IFAB, you know, they met recently in a big castle in Wales and they were talking about this. And there's chat that Arsene Wenger's offside plan may be put into place. I think in the Canadian League, I think there was talk about that. They might trial it there. Which is going to completely change the game.

35:47Marcus Speller: Yes. Yeah, but it's going to completely change the game over there.

35:52Pete Donaldson: It's talking about daylight. You know, there needs to be daylight between attacker and defender. and people go, oh yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that'll be better. You are still drawing the line somewhere.

36:01Marcus Speller: Because there'll be someone sprinting and their heel will be next to someone's shin. Translucent heels.

36:07Pete Donaldson: We have it and it's here to stay unless you get rid of VAR on offside specifically, which I don't think you're going to row back on that particular thing. It's a bit like saying, well, I was only doing 31 and a 30. All right, well, we'll make this own 40. Well, I was only doing 41 and a 40. It never ends this, unfortunately. And it is a sickness because we have grown up with the spirit of the offside law. And he visits us every Christmas. Indeed, yes. The offside law of Christmas Premier League past. And tells us the IFAB rules so that we all remember them.

36:37Jim Campbell: Can you piss off? There are more important lessons I need to learn from all the ghosts talking around here. I don't need you here. I don't need the IFAB rules,

36:46Vish Khanna: I'm crying out loud.

36:49Marcus Speller: But it does feel a little bit like, you know, like some of the greatest films of all time have terrible continuity where it's like someone's holding a coffee cup in one hand and then it cuts back to them and they're holding it in another and they're clearly offside but that it's a thing of like obviously these different hands who gives a shit it's a story about space you dickhead leave it

37:13Vish Khanna: space bombs

37:14Marcus Speller: that's what it feels like yes there is an issue there and there is a problem but I get what you're saying it's like let the magic happen let the magic happen Because there were shades of, so I just got it up here to remember the year, but the 07-08 season, Fulham's come back against Man City. You know, 2-0 down, Diamante Camara, then scores the winner, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:36Pete Donaldson: Beautiful goal, yeah.

37:37Marcus Speller: At the Etihad. But like, that was what it reminded me of when I was checking the score on my phone because it was illegal to watch. I wouldn't break the law. And it was, yeah, it was madness. Not the offside law, anyway. Yeah.

37:48Pete Donaldson: No, you're right. Again, I'm sorry to say this. The firestick ghosts. but like you know should have would have could have but if Burnley win that game yeah look they still have a fighting chance but it is a sick and then of course right at the end when because I mean look Burnley they're 3-0 down they were getting pasted by Brentford absolutely pasted it was it was night and day that first half I appreciate Burnley score at the end of the first half which was a fortunate one but they fight back and there's still time half an hour to go

38:16Jim Campbell: when it's 3-0 the second goal where it comes off Michael Coyote again I don't think it was listed as a known goal for him, wasn't it? His face was unbelievable. He wasn't anywhere near him. He was in a funk, to put it mildly.

38:29Pete Donaldson: But Fleminger leading the charge. We talked about that goal. And then, as you mentioned, Dam's got it.

38:33Jim Campbell: And then Ashley Barnes. So that one, right? At this point, I'm thinking about the shoulder situation, thinking that's extremely unlucky for Burnley because, as you say, that is the rule at the moment. So that has to be respected. And then I'm thinking, oh, it's hit his hand, but it's not deliberate. And because he's the goal scorer they've been really unlucky with that specific rule again but then seeing the replays it's like I don't know that it does hit his arm it's so unclear I think it's a terrible decision

39:02Pete Donaldson: I reckon Barnes I don't know if it was just sheer desperation but he's not a man who I think would be backwards in coming forwards he looks like he was crestfallen almost like as if no no no I thought he may have known really I don't know I mean

39:21Marcus Speller: I know what you mean I feel like he would have been much angrier yes

39:25Jim Campbell: I thought he'd be really furious

39:26Pete Donaldson: maybe it's just Ashley Barnes I'm no body language expert Jim as you know

39:30Marcus Speller: but on this podcast we are Ashley Barnes experts we are

39:34Pete Donaldson: and I hope it was a sicker because for him as well the finish yeah and the way they run back to the centre circle and he's going come on one more you think this could be one of the greatest after all it's been chalked off

39:45Vish Khanna: is there an argument to say with all this fixture congestion that all of the managers are having trouble with the referees are fighting it's just as difficult filling out reports and forms and apologising and you know getting taken off matches because you've been shit it's just a I think they're really busy I can't accept the Christmas ghost God

40:02Pete Donaldson: I think they're really busy I just feel so sorry for Burnley because everyone has dismissed them and I just look I've been one of those people if they could if they could do this it would be such an up yours to every single person who's not connected to the club

40:14Jim Campbell: no one's really talking about them doing it people are even sort of saying oh wolves are showing a bit could they you know make the greatest escape ever I think you're right Burnley have been just disregarded and dismissed for a lot of the season and if they could have got something out of this I think people would have said or started to say okay it might be on there but they've got to use that as encouragement right that second half performance was brilliant

40:35Pete Donaldson: but they can't have another first half performance like that no they were so bad in that first half so we're giving them credit but I mean they haven't won at home since October you compare that to say Leeds United who have made their home an absolute fortress West Ham

40:51Marcus Speller: recently West Ham recently yeah

40:53Pete Donaldson: and of course with Wolves beating Aston Villa the night before you know you maybe barely thought take some encouragement from that I don't know but yeah but Wolves though that does mean that they have officially moved past Derby County's record low Premier League points tally which again begs the question what on earth would Derby County do it's still it's still March there's still ages to go it's extraordinary how they managed to achieve that

41:19Marcus Speller: we should you said that and I say an achievement

41:22Pete Donaldson: because it's so it's so bad yeah

41:25Marcus Speller: you say that in a way we have to reopen the case yeah we should punish surely they got more points yeah

41:33Pete Donaldson: well Vish you did mention West Ham though they were battered 5-2 at Anfield though you know I did yeah so what do you think of that

41:40Marcus Speller: yeah shame on them I support them

41:44Jim Campbell: Alexis McAllister's goal Liverpool's third was like a headers and volley style goal that you rarely see outside of a park that was great

41:51Marcus Speller: the look he gave Eketike as well who set him up was like oh I didn't know you liked that it was very much like when you meet someone for the first time you're like yeah I like this guy

42:02Pete Donaldson: I knew this MTV show yeah do you know Liverpool have scored more set-piece goals than any other team in the Premier League in 2026 brackets excluding penalties

42:11Marcus Speller: they changed their set-piece coach recently didn't they so I mean set-piece FC

42:16Pete Donaldson: set-piece FC yeah that was Arsenal for a long time yeah well no

42:19Marcus Speller: No, because they're Arsenal and Set Piece FC so they have to be like Set Piece Wednesday or something. Set Piece City.

42:26Pete Donaldson: I think they would appreciate being called Set Piece United. Set Piece How?

42:29Marcus Speller: Yeah, yeah. They've always wanted to be United, haven't they? Set Piece Academical. There you go. That's good, yeah. I love that, Petey. Sporting club to Set Piece. Set Piece Machine. Nice. Yeah, good.

42:44Vish Khanna: You do have to be familiar with the South African football team Police Machine FC though, don't you? Or the Nigerian one, Peter. The Nigerian? Yeah. Oh, that was South African. No, it was a big scandal in Nigeria. It was a big scandal in Nigeria. Is it?

42:55Marcus Speller: We've already brought it up before.

42:57Pete Donaldson: Do you not remember the live show? No, I was drunk.

43:01Vish Khanna: What a stupid question. Like a big puppy and mash a head of Richard Keyes. The CTE from the live show.

43:07Pete Donaldson: All right, Pete, this is perhaps more up your alley. Part of the cop, I say part of the cop, maybe there was one or two people not singing this to West Ham. You're going down with Prince Andrew. Oh, no. There's plenty of people getting arrested. I'd like to say to those people who sang that, he's no longer Prince Andrew.

43:23Jim Campbell: He's only still got his title there just because it fits the rhyme. True. Or so it fits the line. I don't think we should be making light

43:29Vish Khanna: of an organisation that protects sex offenders because Sunderland's in the second half of it. Oh, dear.

43:35Marcus Speller: Good Lord.

43:37Vish Khanna: Come on.

43:38Marcus Speller: You know, I think Sunderland next. Have you made a joke about the Epstein files worse?

43:42Pete Donaldson: Come on. We're not going to be doing Sunderland next. All right, okay. Yeah, so that's why that bit's wrong. messed up my big joke yeah well you got it in there I got it in there have you seen Peter that police officers in Warsaw are on the hunt for a suspected burglar who looks very similar to Stephen Gerrard

44:00Marcus Speller: he looks nothing like Stephen Gerrard really why is it

44:04Pete Donaldson: I think he looks

44:05Vish Khanna: exactly like Stephen Gerrard

44:06Jim Campbell: so I think he looks he looks like Stephen Gerrard at a stretch right and my favourite thing about this is that so well he won't because so many people were saying either he looks exactly like him or he looks nothing like him and then those people were arguing that the police deleted the post. So I was just like, okay, not worth it. He's just in the wind then. It's not worth it. It works out really well for him. Was he wearing a blue dress or was he wearing a blue dress?

44:28Vish Khanna: Why are we doing this again? I can't remember. It was just for engagement. Yeah. Keep it up.

44:33Marcus Speller: He's doing a seven-year sentence until it's an eight-year sentence. That's how it works. Yeah, exactly.

44:39Pete Donaldson: And he lives with a bloke who looks like Frank Lampard. And when one goes out of the rob, one stays in, et cetera. Nice. Paul Scholes lives next door. One goes out on the rob. Nicky Butt doesn't live anywhere near them, although he should. All right, then, coming up after this, more goals, the old firm, and don't beat Brendan Rodgers at pool. Wasn't planning on.

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46:30Pete Donaldson: Welcome back to the Football Ramble, everybody. Newcastle United 2, Everton 3. Ha-ha, Petey! Ha-ha! Got you! Got me! David Moyes' men. Yes. beat your boys they beat you

46:40Vish Khanna: you Eddie Howe said that it's just because of the Sunderland Jog Eddie Howe said that they keep making uncharacteristic defensive mistakes keep doing them don't they so yeah at some point it becomes characteristic it becomes characteristic doesn't it

46:54Pete Donaldson: Newcastle have lost three consecutive home games for the first time since February 2021 which was of course under Steve Bruce nice to hear his name nice to see his name yeah in the running order it's an unwanted flashback Peter ultimately

47:08Vish Khanna: all joking aside Nick Pope had one of his one of his nights one of his days did he? he did he wasn't great he was very flappy and very rushy and very and parry-y

47:19Pete Donaldson: Pete what's going on here I was making the point to Jim on our live stream that we did on the point

47:23Vish Khanna: they're shitting the league Marcus

47:24Pete Donaldson: they're really bad

47:25Marcus Speller: but they're from the league

47:27Pete Donaldson: they're from the league but not all the leagues I was making the point to that guy Jim over there in our reaction to the Champions League draw you can still find it on YouTube I was saying that like Newcastle in the Champions League go well I think they could give Barcelona a bloody nose in fact it wouldn't shock me yeah we were both saying that like it it would be an upset if they went through but I don't you know I think I'd agree with you what's going on in the Premier League

47:50Vish Khanna: they do seem to raise their games against teams like the Barcelona's and you know PSG's and stuff yeah in certain you know times in matches and stuff

47:59Pete Donaldson: but they've lost five of the last six in the league they're just not

48:01Vish Khanna: 13th one point below Sunderland I think although my recent comments on I think Newcastle would entertain an offer for Bruno. I think when he's not in the side, the confidence just drops a little bit. It's huge. Because I feel like he's the only person who can break down any kind of block. But fundamentally at this moment in time, just a really low confidence keeper behind a really low confidence defence. They gifted Everton so many chances in this match and they shouldn't have run out winners here at all.

48:31Jim Campbell: It's the nature of the times where they've conceded those two last goals, immediately after scoring I think it was 74 seconds for the last one and also it goes in off Tiano Barry's arse doesn't it really or his midriff was he failed? maybe

48:48Pete Donaldson: if the referee wanted a real killjoy

48:50Vish Khanna: no goal

48:51Pete Donaldson: it's actually a penalty

48:52Vish Khanna: but you almost guarantee hit it with your foot please you almost guarantee that they'll probably have quite a good season next season like they had last season because they won't have Champions League football so there's that to be said for it if Eddie Howe's still in the job what if they won the Champions League What if they won the Champions League? They would be forced to play in the Champions League again. They would be forced. Is that how you'd do it?

49:10Marcus Speller: Yeah, I wondered how you'd spin winning the Champions League. They'd be forced.

49:14Vish Khanna: Oh, we have to do it again, do we? Caravan in the Champions League. What sort of rewards that? More off.

49:19Pete Donaldson: That would be frustrating.

49:20Vish Khanna: Stay of execution.

49:22Pete Donaldson: I mean, but if it wasn't for...

49:24Marcus Speller: Eddie Howe has been given a stay of execution, careful.

49:27Pete Donaldson: Yeah, I was about to say. For winning the Champions League.

49:30Marcus Speller: For speaking out. Oh, no. For winning the Champions League.

49:34Pete Donaldson: it would have been a point for Newcastle United if it wasn't for the strong arms of Jordan Pickford oh it was a lovely serve that wasn't it and his little whoo after it

49:42Marcus Speller: cheeky little vamos in there as well you'll see that

49:45Pete Donaldson: a few footballers do that these days I think yeah like non-Spanish speaking footballers yeah so

49:51Marcus Speller: I wonder if it's just yeah they've just done it more often recently but I know the a lot of the England players were taking the piss out of Belligan when he came back and started saying it they were like what are you doing yeah he did that I think

50:03Pete Donaldson: in Scotland but yeah that save

50:07Marcus Speller: I think it's the best I've seen in the Premier League ever yeah comes to a crowd

50:12Vish Khanna: it's really quick I don't think it's the best but it was and the way it pings off the bar as well which there's an aesthetic quality to that isn't there there's a lot to love

50:21Marcus Speller: so you're I mean I'm putting words in your mouth here but I wonder if people don't think

50:28Vish Khanna: get them in there

50:29Marcus Speller: not after the week you've had not after the meet the weekend Not after the meat week you've had. The meat week. The meat weekend.

50:35Vish Khanna: Pete's Meat Week. The Bosch Week. I would watch that on the National Geographic.

50:39Pete Donaldson: It wouldn't be on that network.

50:43Vish Khanna: You said I wouldn't be on National Geographic. I'm eating every animal exists.

50:47Jim Campbell: They do have a lot of shows where it is just a guy eating. Or someone going to the forest. Come on, let's get Mama Davies big slap sauce on this. Let's lick at this toad and then eat it. I don't know why you're from Brooklyn.

51:00Pete Donaldson: It's a clothed man eating.

51:02Marcus Speller: Yeah, Marcus, you're suggesting it'd be an internet only video.

51:05Pete Donaldson: If you can find it. Like dark web only as well. But going back to the save.

51:10Marcus Speller: So I think the reason maybe some people won't see it in the way that I see it is because, you know, it's not quite in the corner. I thought you were going to come out with some pompous,

51:20Pete Donaldson: because, you know, I know about goalkeeping. I think he's well on the way to that, Marcus.

51:23Marcus Speller: Give me a second. Let me cook. but he hits it so well and he's actually not that far out for the level for the fact that it's a volley and the run up to it Tonali will never hit a ball that well in his life

51:44Vish Khanna: he does hang out there quite a lot

51:47Marcus Speller: he will never strike a ball as well as that in his life he's hit that perfectly he's probably still thinking about the contact on his foot now rather than the save and because of how Pickford normally is, he exaggerates every save. You need to exaggerate a save to get a shot of that ferocity. Magnitude off. Yeah. Away from the goal, essentially. You need to almost like, it's like when you punch someone, you've got to punch through them. You can't just like punch them to hit them in the nose. All right. Is it now? Whoa. What a weekend have you had? It's just everything about it's perfect and the fact that he has four celebrations.

52:24Pete Donaldson: Yeah. in front of the Newcastle fans as well. Typical Sunderland. It's fair to say don't like him. But the only thing you could say that maybe doesn't make it the best save in Premier League history is people might say it is quite close to him. It's not like perfectly in the corner. That doesn't take anything away from me, by the way. So, yeah, it's a stunning, stunning save. And the way he gets up, it is a bit like get a load of that. I love it. I absolutely love it.

52:51Jim Campbell: It's as important as any of the goals as well.

52:54Pete Donaldson: yeah I think it is definitely 100 %

52:57Marcus Speller: also the that was genuinely a moment and it might be just from you being in my head where I was like fucking bring all the World Cup I know I know right

53:07Jim Campbell: I think it's fair to say that I've got to Vish on that theme though Jared Branthwaite on the score sheet nice yeah back in the team for a little while now do you know what

53:14Pete Donaldson: he hasn't really featured much at all in the England squad no he hasn't

53:17Jim Campbell: he's been very unlucky with injuries

53:18Pete Donaldson: he has been unlucky with injuries and Evertonians I'm going to speak on behalf of you No, I'm going to speak on behalf of a few that I know love him and think he's brilliant. He's a great player. He is a great player, yeah.

53:28Marcus Speller: He was being groomed for that role by Southgate

53:30Pete Donaldson: and then the injuries kind of lost him.

53:33Jim Campbell: Moyes has been playing him as a left back recently as well, interestingly.

53:36Pete Donaldson: Yeah, I don't think he's going to go to the World Cup because of the way it's gone, unfortunately for him. But he's still a young man. There's plenty left there. And yeah, we'll definitely see him playing for England in the future. There's no doubt about that. But yes, great win for Everton though, who are going very well. They find themselves in eighth. you can tell they're having a good season because they're only three points behind Brentford that's how you measure it that is how you measure it, yeah, absolutely now, Keenan Dewsbury Hall current Everton man, has revealed that he once left Brendan Rodgers fuming after he beat him in a pool tournament when he was at Leicester City Dewsbury Hall said, quite a few people were watching and I beat him 3-0 and you could tell he was raging I've just gone, yeah, sorry gaffer and a week later, I got sent out on loan to Blackpool

54:18Jim Campbell: so the story behind this is really funny apparently Kiernan Jusby Hall played pool since he was about 10 like in pubs and stuff and he was a really handy player in the Jusby pool hall absolutely yeah and he was he was drawn against Brendan Rodgers in the first round and apparently he was like really worried about it he's like do I go easy because apparently Brendan Rodgers had talked himself up and he basically Brendan Rodgers

54:43Pete Donaldson: talked himself up

54:43Jim Campbell: apparently so and the whole tournament was his idea and I think it was about him trying to assert some dominance and then Jujbe Hall just cleans him out in the first round so good

54:54Vish Khanna: brings us on custom pool that is a sick

54:58Jim Campbell: I was really trying not to win oh no oh no Ronnie O'Sullivan dit sorry let me say that again Ronnie O'Sullivan dit oh dear we do Ronnie O'Sullivan dit I said Rolly Rolly

55:11Pete Donaldson: sorry put this at the end he Ronnie O'Sullivan dit he sure did that's a good one Marcus that's a good one Marcus

55:17Marcus Speller: how did you think of that can you give him another one for me

55:22Marcus Speller: Yay Marcus I always knew you were the funny one Even when I wasn't on the show I was like good Marcus is the funny one Is it that funny? It's just the guy's name No but he turned it into a verb And he pronounced Wait till the boys on Reddit hear about this He pronounced it perfectly First time as well It's just the way he delivered it

55:46Pete Donaldson: Let's go to Brendan Rogers is a former side Celtic. They got a draw at Ibrox. 2-2. What a game. What a game.

55:56Marcus Speller: It's great when you get an old firm game and they're scrapping and neither of them are going to win the league.

56:02Pete Donaldson: It was the perfect result for Hearts. That's the big takeaway. I mean, look, we know that the old firm is entertaining. It doesn't matter if you have any interest in Scottish football or not. It's one of those games where you're like, come on, this is compulsive. Eight minutes in, a spectacular overhead kick. It's like, whoa, here we go.

56:17Jim Campbell: Beautiful stuff. My favourite part of that is... Charmite! I like how the Scots brought it up. Yes. The Glenn's vodka advert in the background. Love it, yeah. So just beautiful to me. Midday kickoff on a Sunday. Glenn's vodka.

56:30Marcus Speller: Get out there!

56:31Pete Donaldson: It would have only been better if it was whiskey. There we are. There we are. Yeah, so, Hearts are now six points clear of Rangers, eight points clear of Celtic. Celtic still have a game in hand, but... It's good to see. It's probably an old game. Yeah, boy, isn't it? Can I just, like... we're in a march now. We are into, I'm tearing up. We're in a march. We are into march. Me too, just because of the jokes. Hearts have a commanding lead at the top of the table, right? And not only that, if I can bring in something else, 10 points separates first to fourth in Scotland. We're in march. This is unprecedented territory.

57:10Pete Donaldson: Scottish Premiership, I'm proud of you. I'm really proud of you. Oh dear. You can do it. Yeah. and the old firm I'm proud of you for not getting in the way of what's been well done just getting in each other's way yeah yeah right oh my goodness slightly softer

57:27Marcus Speller: yeah finally seeing the bigger picture aren't they they are

57:29Pete Donaldson: it is it is extraordinary it is extraordinary Jack Butland had a good game for Rangers was he the unluckiest goalkeeper on the weekend because

57:39Jim Campbell: the way he put the rebound in was properly just like it was almost a foul on the ball it was so determined to go out of the line

57:46Pete Donaldson: We cannot let this go. But Butland, you know, so initially keeps the ball out, but it is given as a penalty. He saves the penalty. He saves the rebound. And then, as you say, Jim, it goes in at the third time. He's just like, lads, somebody help me out here. But the game ended 2-0. A very entertaining game. Rangers 2-0 up. They'll be unhappy with that. As they showed at the full-time whistle, because Martin O 'Neill had to break up a fight at the end of the game. I like that from 74-year-old Martin O 'Neill. On his birthday. On his birthday. But he was just going over to the players, just going, go away.

58:15Pete Donaldson: don't get involved what are you doing you know they say you're getting a bit more miserable when you're older I think also though you can sometimes see more clarity like this is just not what are you

58:25Marcus Speller: I think people of that age though when they when they come across those kind of situations actually know they have a lot of power because people generally just like oh sorry there's an adult here

58:37Vish Khanna: yeah and you can't if you knock them over they might get a head injury and you never know which way that's going to go within all the more that is true Bloody Nora. It's true.

58:46Jim Campbell: What age at which do you draw the line?

58:49Vish Khanna: Do not hit anyone over 15.

58:51Marcus Speller: Okay, so would you have hit... No further questions. Would you have hit Martin O 'Neill... If Sunday was his birthday, would you have hit Martin O 'Neill on Saturday? Oh, yeah, it's a good point. As a 73-year-old.

59:02Vish Khanna: As a 73-year-old, yeah. He does look very into it. His awareness of what's going on around him, he's spinning around, seeing any other fights that need breaking up. It's pure less. It's a skill, that. It's a skill. Yeah.

59:14Pete Donaldson: such vision yeah let's finish the show we're talking about another older man Neil Warnock he's 77 and he's back in business yay talking United sacked their manager Paul Watton yesterday which means Neil Warnock will take charge

59:27Jim Campbell: it just feels like every club in the country has a red phone and you just pick it up and it's a direct line to Neil and he'll always be at the end of it not every club well not every club is going to use it every club has it yes indeed

59:40Vish Khanna: someone's always cooking like mints in the background there's some stick Steak and onions or something. I bet it's just constantly got some steak and onions on the go. That'd be lovely.

59:50Pete Donaldson: Just in case, just in case. We look forward to talking about Talker United much, much more on the show.

59:56Vish Khanna: What's good for the ramble and all that.

59:59Pete Donaldson: Indeed. Thank you very much for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the Acast Creator Network. I'm back tomorrow with Vish and Jim for the Mailbang. So get your ears around that lot. Until then, thank you, Vish. Thank you. Thank you, Jim. Thank you. Thank you, PT. I'm Marcus Feller. And thank you, Talker United.

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