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3:02Go to bombas.com slash audio and use code audio for 20 % off your first purchase. That's bombas.com and use code audio. Hello everybody, welcome to the Football Ramble. Manchester City go top and Liam Rosinha's gone. It's Thursday, 23rd of April. I'm Marcus Speller. And I'm Vinicius Holtarajan.

3:34Hello everybody, good to have you with us. What a thrilling Thursday, Vish. Yeah, yeah. It feels like a bit like Groundhog Day, given what we talked about on Wednesday. But yeah, another lovely sunny day in the kingdom in a World Cup year. It couldn't be better. We're having a great run of it, aren't we? We really are. We really are. Don't take all of my lines, though, Vish. Otherwise, I'll have nothing to say. But yes, it is, as Vish says, beautiful sunshine in such a beautiful country. Now, let's move on swiftly. In the best country. In the best country. Sometimes we get comments like, oh, I think you went a bit soft on the Chelsea squad.

4:16I thought you were pulling your punches. Well, now we're not. This is the best country. Yeah, if you lined up all the countries, then a chance to prove that this summer, of course. But anyway, let's go to West London, where Liam Rosina has, of course, been sacked by Chelsea. He was sacked yesterday after a run of five successive Premier League defeats. He's finished with 10 defeats in 23 games. Chelsea released a statement saying, Liam has always conducted himself with the highest integrity and professionalism following his appointment midway through the season. This has not been a decision the club has taken lightly.

4:54However, recent results and performances have fallen below the necessary standards, who with so much still to play for this season, everyone at Chelsea FC wishes Liam every success in the future. Are they obliged to give him a job in the company elsewhere? We know he's a company man. They obviously promoted him against or with his wish when he was at Strasbourg. Do they sort of go, all right, okay, you can go back there or you can, you know, I feel they have a responsibility. Yeah, that's a great point. This is technically a restructuring, isn't it? That's definitely how they'll frame it. If they could, if the Chelsea fans weren't so, let's say, forthcoming with their opinions of the board in recent months or maybe even longer, I think they may well have tried to get away with that kind of crappy language.

5:45Yeah, like I like the idea that, you know, at Blue Co headquarters, there is, you know, a card going around being like, can you sign this? Liam's leaving. I don't even really know Liam. But I've got Fiverr in as well. He's your mate. Have you ever worked, you've worked in offices, right, where that happens, you know, someone's birthday, and you write happy birthday and so on. There was an amazing one once in an office I used to work in where one of the lads, not the sharpest, but you just get these cards appear. And for the most part, I'd say like nine times out of ten, because the office wasn't that big I was working in, maybe about 50 odd people.

6:20You were very happy to give a birthday wish, of course, and it was sincere. Yeah, it doesn't cost anything, does it? It doesn't cost a thing, right? There was one occasion where one of the women in the office was pregnant. We were giving her, oh no, she just had a child. It was a congratulations card and all the rest of it. And one of the lads obviously didn't realise what he was signing. All right, mate, all the best, Jay. Have one for me. Cheers.

6:46Very enjoyable. But anyway, back to Liam Rosina and Chelsea. Yeah, you know, you talked about this idea like, well, I suppose in their statement that they say that we don't take these things lightly. And I'm inclined to believe them, but at the same time, it does feel like they've just reacted as soon as the noise has been loudest. And I appreciate that's generally how sackings go. But this is probably the most overt reaction that Rosinha has had from fans, from Chelsea fans, that is, and they've reacted basically immediately, like 24 hours later. Well, less than 24 hours later. I thought it was interesting that, you know, a lot of the talk around how they were operating specifically with the signing of Rosinha was that they would give it until he's had a first, you know, his first full season under his belt before really judging him.

7:42which would have meant this going through to the summer of 2027 which is ludicrous when you think about it given, you know, it also makes you wonder how much have we missed out on like they were hugging the ball a month ago respecting the ball Yeah, I know, I know But it goes to show, doesn't it, that like they they obviously want a level of control over their managers which is why they brought Rossini in in the first place so he's on a bit of a hiding to nothing and at the same time they had such a good thing with Enzo Moresca and they botched it really. It feels like reading from Chelsea reporters who've been in the know about this kind of thing, certainly about how the board operates, it feels like Moresca came in under very similar circumstances to Rossinia in that there were a few different department heads he had to report into and there was only so much he could do because in part he'd never managed in the Premier League before but also that's the way Bluco wanted to operate and as soon as he was good enough to make demands that's when the friction started so when they bring in Rossini they essentially bring in a company man, a yes man and even that's gone south so I don't know where they go from here but ultimately it just shows how flawed the system was from the start Well totally yeah what the board have done is they've made Chelsea look like the type of place that you'll only go to for money You're not going there because that's a team I want to go.

9:10Yeah, OK, they've still got the name. They've still achieved a lot in recent seasons. You know, European champions not that long ago. And I understand that there's always going to be the pulling power of the Premier League and blah, blah, blah. But let's be frank, often a lot of that is to do with money. They are not Manchester United. No matter how bad Manchester United got or get, you'll always have somebody go, oh but my dad supported them or I supported them growing up or whatever it may be Chelsea I don't think have that and so the board they've really dragged the place into the mud and again if you're a manager you'd steer clear of it surely if you're more bothered about reputation rather than money again there will always be takers and you'll always get managers who understandably so will think oh I'll be the guy to go in and sort that out but also with players like if you look at those Chelsea players none of them are happy I appreciate that that and I feel sorry for Rosina on a human level but also I do feel sorry that clearly his players just weren't having him for whatever reason and I think that's definitely something that's a very very evident and has been for many years in modern football I think back in the day I don't know what it was maybe because back in the day you were much more local and you would probably drink in the same pub as a lot of the local fans so you couldn't get away of completely phoning in performances whereas nowadays it's kind of like i don't fancy this guy i probably want to move yes sod it but like the effort that some of those players put in was was incredibly low and incredibly poor but ultimately more often than not it comes from the very top of the club and the very top of that club has been toxic for quite a while now i um i don't want to defend the players outright um obviously we see this with other clubs as well that feels like you know player power is what it is and has been the case for i suppose longer than we choose to admit really but um but ultimately yes our romantic notion of of football i think 100 % happen to be a job when it's our dream yeah yeah so so sometimes we're naive with that i appreciate that but i think i think there is something to be said about yeah but the the thing you said there about like you know they're almost uh you alluded to about them being a product of their environment.

11:27If you're a player in that Chelsea squad, you almost certainly know someone close to you who's been disrespected by those owners, by that management, by the way they operate. You know someone who's been in the bomb squad. You know someone who's been lied to. You know someone who has been kind of turfed out or I don't want to say in prison, that feels a bit strong, but you know someone who has been like you know put in an awkward situation because of things around their contract or just the way that the club want to be seen to operate or are operating and so when you have that of course you're not gonna you know if there's someone you don't really like who who has power over you you're not gonna feel all that attached to them anyway and that is the kind of that is the issue when you try and run a club like this you you don't there is no real emotional buy-in you get from the players and thus you're not going to get any back you're not going to get any spread around or like you know used to deal with an incoming manager who by all accounts they probably have quite a lot in common with Liam Rossini I appreciate he wasn't like a top top level player and you've got World Cup and Euro winners in that squad but he's someone who knows how tough it is I don't think he's he's someone who hasn't doesn't take it for granted he doesn't take skill for granted he doesn't take like Yeah, a respectful playing career.

12:44For granted, yeah. But yeah, ultimately, he was one of them, wasn't he? So they've reacted like that. Yeah, well, the fact of the matter is Liam Rosina is gone. I don't think that comes as a surprise to anybody. I thought, I wonder if he'll make the summer. And then, of course, you look at their league position, they are falling. They still have an FA Cup semi-final to play. and you think, OK, they are where they are. I think if you are a Chelsea fan, you're probably pleased to see Rosina go, not because you wish him bad or anything, but they have to get some kind of European football next season.

13:24Again, we spoke about this the other day on the pod. The financial situation at Chelsea is quite worrying. And I implore anybody, if you're bothered to look into that, because as I say, it is quite boring and with any kind of talk of finances and whatnot, you can get a bit tangled up. And I don't think it's the most riveting chat to have with the detail on that, but it is quite a worrying situation. If they were to miss out on European football completely, that's a financial hit. Even if they got Europa League football, it would still be some sort of revenue. And with the FA Cup there, I appreciate what would they be second favourites behind Manchester City, but there's still a chance.

14:02So if they finish this season as FA Cup winners, then it does gloss over a teensy little bit. However, if they miss out on Champions League, which I think they are going to, I don't think that's a particularly insightful prediction, then it goes down as a disappointing season. There's huge questions to ask of the board. I don't think they're going to get it right anytime soon. They've got Callum McFarlane in, who's going to be interim manager, quickly becoming the Ryan Mason of West London through no fault of his own. He took one point from his two games as interim of the club last January. So he's going to get very used to this routine.

14:44But he does strike me as a man who is not interested in this job, or certainly not now anyway. It's just hot desk at Luka, isn't it? It's just hot desk. It's fine. It is. It absolutely is. So they are going to have to appoint someone who the fans won't hate immediately. and at the moment there's not a huge amount of names that I think realistically the clubs can go and get. I mean Andoni Arreola would be an obvious one because he's as we know he's going to be a free agent in the summer Vish I'd be very surprised if he went to Chelsea though Well let's try and work it out. If you want someone who is like good that you can tether to a long contract and is you know will give you a bit more control as the owners so therefore is like inexperienced and relatively new to the game would Fabregas be a mental shout no but I think with what Fabregas doing at Como again I people will always say yeah but the money but if you are good enough the money will come like reputation is more important than money But that much money and that little reputational damage if he goes wrong.

16:08The old make him an offer he can't refuse kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. I think the fans would probably like to see Fabregas. That's a guess. But again, I think you'd have to be quite hard-hearted to think that. If you want someone with Premier League experience, you've got Irei over there. Again, I'd be surprised if he went. Marco Silva, I think, another name being linked. The only thing with that is, if the board wants someone they can control, Silva's not your man. Even he admitted... He'd jump at the job, though. Probably, probably. I don't think that's an unreasonable point to make at all. But again, Silva likes a lot of control.

16:56And at Fulham, he's got it. The club is kind of moulded around him, really. And even then he said not that long ago, he went, you know, I appreciate I could be quite difficult to work with and the demands I make and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm not sure he would be the man that they would want. You've got some other interesting names in the mix. Funnily enough, Frank Lampard's being linked by people. Frank, don't do it. Please, please don't. Please, third time lucky. Yeah, maybe, yeah. Have I changed enough? Has she changed enough? I don't know. No, please don't do that, Frank. I can't change them, but they do have more money.

17:33Yeah. And they are spending it recklessly, so I can get in on that. Yeah, true enough. I don't know who's linked Diego Simeone to the job, but somebody has, which is a complete waste of everybody's time. To be fair, he loves long contracts. Yeah, but he likes seeing them out, though. Yeah, yeah. He likes sticking around, and there's the sticking point, if you will. there's no way Diego Simeone's going there it's pointless Oliver Glasner is another name which no but people like Glasner and Iriola are just too wise to take that job yeah yeah that's why I think Fabregas kind of makes a bit of sense because he has that you know he's a coming manager it would be even though we know what it was kind of you know we know a lot of the motivations behind it.

18:29It's quite a statement piece signing. It would be one of the biggest player slash manager signings that people would make this summer. Fabregas coming in at Chelsea as manager. Someone giving his record as a footballer in the Premier League, internationally, abroad. And also the moves he's making as manager. He's one of the best up-and-coming managers at the moment. I feel like I see more of him talking on podcasts than I do of him on the touchline because I don't really watch Italian football. But he's evidently someone who like, I don't know, he has friends in the media. He's very good with the media.

19:09He'll be a very popular acquisition on all sides, really. I think it also buys them a bit of good press with the English media, which is obviously something they care about. Whether they should or not is up to them. Well, it's up to everyone else to decide, but they certainly do. I don't know. I think that works. for Chelsea for a bit does it work for Fabregas though I would be I think he's too well thought out to do that do you also think maybe quickly do you also think that would potentially if he goes to Chelsea it might potentially rule him out of say in two years time if the Arsenal job comes up now there's a thought there's a thought he's got options I think we could agree I think we can agree well how about this for a stat since Antonio Conte sorry left in July 2018 Thomas Tuchel is the only manager to manage at least 100 games at Chelsea that came before Bluko took over didn't it Bluko took over at the back end of that run so yeah yeah I mean since Conte Maurizio Sarra Frank Lampard Thomas Tuchel Graham Potter Frank Lampard again Maurizio Pochettino Enzo Mresco and Liam Rosinha can't wait for the next one yeah so what is it they're looking the new ownership are looking for their fifth manager at this stage yeah well well good luck to them I think I think that there's there'd be I think what they're hoping for is kind of what's happened at Manchester United this season to a degree in that they give it to Carrick at Man United and the results improve and they've got back into the Champions League well it's very very likely they're going to get back into the Champions League and people just seem a little bit happier The ownership is still the ownership at Manchester United.

20:53You've still got all those deep-rooted problems. Yes, yeah. But you can just about get by with what's going on there and maybe the hope of trying to go for a trophy or whatever next season. That's really what this Chelsea ownership are going to do. I can't imagine the ownership are going to suddenly have a complete and utter restructuring, rethinking. you know they have a very very successful and and helpful lobotomy and suddenly they're all flying on all cylinders and it's all rosy and lovely old job i and it looks like the owners are in it for the long run um and i know a lot of owners may say that until somebody comes along and makes them an offer they can't refuse because you can't sell it can you well it's it's such a tangled situation as well at chelsea again without going into all those unnecessary details but one thing we do know is that if they do not find a new stadium soon which seems unlikely especially the time limit given they are in they are in trouble because that's what the ownership of kind of banked on doing but anyway I said I wouldn't talk about all that kind of stuff so I'm going to stop there so yeah Chelsea young Callum's in charge can he get them a European football next season that is the brief they do have that semi-final as well against the team we're going to talk about after the break we're also going to talk about Manchester City going top and that spicy affair between Leeds and Bournemouth on the South Coast.

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24:53Welcome back to Football Ramble, everybody. Well then, Vish. Burnley 0, Manchester City 1. In among all this talk at the top of the league, I think everyone's forgotten that Burnley have been relegated. I think people maybe thought they already had been I don't know, poor old Burnley but we will get to that in a minute or two Burnley fans, sorry about that but Manchester City moved top of the Premier League I found this one interesting because they go 1-0 up after five minutes and we're all thinking goal difference is going to be crucial here and we're thinking, okay, Man City are going to go 1-0 and win maybe 3 or 4 yes, they had chances, Cherki had a great chance which he should have scored, Dubravka made an outrageous save but they only won it 1-0 Vish and after the game the reporters suddenly were saying to Man City okay you won but you're disappointed about the goal difference and you just saw a little bit from Haaland and Guardiola of well we won that was the main thing don't give a damn about goal difference why you keep asking me that and just a little bit of defensiveness so if you think that this title race is done it is not Man City feeling the pressure you saw Pep on the sideline as well getting nervous against Little Burnley it's hard to call And I think Arsenal fans would have bitten your hand off for Man City only winning 1-0.

26:09I said the other day, they'd probably take a 2-0. It's up for grabs now. Yeah, it felt like Man City also thought the Burnley ball were really relegated because they seemed surprised that they were playing up against them. Back in South Wales? Was it FA Cup again? What? What's going on here? Yeah, it was such a strange performance because they were quite good. They knocked the ball about. Every now and again, they were playing with their food. And then they missed, you know, big chances. Then they started clutching at those big chances. And then suddenly, Burnley would just get an opening every once in a while.

26:46And you're just like, I mean, in the first half, Burnley were actually quite good. Yeah, they weren't bad, were they? When Dubravka came up for that corner at the end of the game, Man City were nervous. And this is what I mean, right? Here I go again, everybody, but I feel I have an opportunity to say this again. This is not the Man City of two or three years ago. Okay? So if you think they're just going to steamroller everybody for the last five Premier League games of the season, I think you've got to think again. I will be surprised if both sides win all five of their games. I might be surprised if either side wins all five of the games.

27:24I'm not sure that either side are capable of that run. But it's a fascinating one. You saw the nerves just creeping in. very different body language to what they were showing after that Arsenal victory and I understand that that's not a criticism it's just pure observation this I'm not saying oh they've dropped the ball they won the game they're right to point that out against a side fighting for their lives all the other cliches and so on so yes they are top of the league finally Arsenal had been top of the Premier League for 200 days this season well that's that's come to an end for the moment but Arsenal now have a chance they've got a couple of games in the Premier League before Man City play.

28:00They do have that tie against Atletico Madrid. So there's a lot to think about there. But how do you feel about the title race now after seeing last night? Has it moved or altered your thinking? What kind of percentages are you given if you can just pretend to be the Opta supercomputer at the moment? Feel free not to do that. I definitely want to mix last night's Man City performance with the weekend's Arsenal performance just gone. in terms of... Yeah, okay. I had a bit more belief in Arsenal, weirdly, after they lost at Man City. Yeah, I know what you mean. Because of the performance. You talked about it on Monday really well.

28:37And then at the same time, that has been slightly raised, that expectation, by just Man City being a bit patchy on Wednesday night. And I'd say I'm still giving it to Man City because I feel like they still have that individual quality that can win those games in that running. I feel like also Arsenal, again, we talked about this a little bit on Wednesday, Arsenal might have to be a very different Arsenal to what we've seen over the last, you know, however many months of the season, eight months or so. And, you know, that's just a difficult thing to do. But yeah, I think Guardiola is the massive tell, isn't he?

29:20And I know like we laud, oh certainly i lord players like shirky for being independent to kind of the nonsense and you know he had a decent game yesterday as well but i think like seeing guardiola like really like we're close to remember that was it last season where he kept scratching himself and he just like that's right and it was almost like a cartoon character with tire marks over him um yes he has that kind of he's approaching that obviously like he's a very passionate guy but like there were times yesterday where I was like just keep the camera on him he's going to do something crazy here yeah yeah yeah I'm not saying like it was like outrageously bad or anything like that but it was like keep it on him because some of this might be used in evidence down the line he's on the verge of doing you know there's someone at the bar where you're like have you seen this because he just walks in yeah yeah yeah yeah I thought he was talking to a cat but it's a severed head of a cat so I'm pretty sure there's no body see look look he's just he loves talking to the mirror that bloke yeah I know what you mean I think Guardiola I think we said this about Arsenal I don't know a week ago I think it was after the sporting game and Luke highlighted it when Declan Rice was speaking and one or two of the others were going well you know we got through like we don't care there was a again it was a little bit too defensive and Guardiola keeps saying that he's more relaxed than ever going into the final weeks of the the Premier League season.

30:50And when you are relaxed, you just tell people how relaxed you are all the time, don't you? Exactly, yeah. The feeling is that we had a really, really good season. Now is the moment to enjoy it more than ever. And I understand, well, I can only imagine how annoying it must be to answer journalists' questions over and over again, the same question, slightly rephrased. Haaland showed that as well. I don't know why you keep saying that. We won the game, we're happy. And they were happy. They are top of the league. And you have to give Manchester City... It's nonsense though, isn't it? We keep saying it because that's how you would win the league in this situation where the score is tied.

31:24That's how it works. If the season was over, now they would be champions. So you have to give them immense credit for coming back into it. Arsenal have let them in, but it's not over. And I think that both teams are feeling pressure. I suppose my sort of gripe this season has been this idea that people keep saying, oh, there you go, Man City are going to click. Yes, they have players in that team who know how to get over the line and the managers. That is obvious. So that gives them maybe a slight sort of emotional advantage. I totally take that point. But again, this idea of, ah, here we go. They're going to knock four past Burnett and then they're just going to win, win, win, win, win, win.

32:04I just don't think that's going to be the case. And I think you write off Arsenal right now at your peril. And Arsenal's brief is obvious. You have to go and blooming well win matches and you have to go and be more proactive. And I think that that game, whether you look at the Carabao, whether we look back to the Carabao Cup final or the game at the Etihad, it'll be very easy to be wise after the event in a number of weeks' time. But we're going to do it, ladies and gentlemen. That is a firm prediction of mine. It's all we've got to pay to do. We're paid to be wise after the event. It's literally the whole point of this.

32:42I told you they were going to... Oh, you didn't see this coming. Am I the fucking Oracle? fuck off Edipus who gives a shit yeah none of us thought many of us thought that Man United were going to end up in league champions this season yeah that would be yeah that would be one event that we couldn't be wise I thought Kamala was going to win of course you did you're an idiot

33:02so so that game at the Etihad I wonder if that everyone will say what they've already been saying and as soon as they Man City you won that game at the Etihad you saw the body language you saw the celebrations, blah, blah, blah. And then Man City just went on and Arsenal looked scared. Or will we be saying in a handful of weeks' time, that was the moment where Arsenal thought, right, we can't just kind of hope it all goes away. We can't just hope that Man City lose the league and we'll just scrape the odd 1-0 here and there. It was the moment where Arsenal went, you know what, we're going to have to be more front-footed in games.

33:39We're going to have to go after it. And they can start that, win against Newcastle United and win well, woof the confidence will be up so it's an absolutely fascinating title race now and again be happy neutrals that we've got this because this is brilliant very seldom does a title race go like this in such a difficult way to go usually what's happened in recent seasons is yes say Liverpool and Man City or Arsenal and Man City have gone it and it's been exciting but that's where Man City get the little advantage and they hold it and they're away this I think is brilliant I'm very pleased as I knew before that this is going on because it is absolutely absorbing so drink it in Vish drink it all in happily yeah a can of my fizzy arm there you are eh you're drinking like a Vish now the result did mean that Burnley were relegated everybody so commiserations to them back into the championship a place they know well they're a bit of a yo-yo side these days you have to say Vish see you next year which some people say is a criticism but if you're a yo-yo side by definition you get some of the highs it's a bit like somebody when they describe something as hit and miss well you have used the word hit there yeah see what I mean it's not all bad I do see what you mean thank you yeah it's kind of fascinating to see what squad they end up with next season they obviously brought in a few people on loan deals we kind of wondered about what the end goal was.

35:13And it seems to be that it's just like them getting the shop window, maybe players that they can keep for next season. Because even when they got them in in January, it was, you know, the odds were short that they'd be in the championship next year. So yeah, fascinating thing. Again, we'll have the same conversation about Scott Parker. Is he a good manager in the Premier League? Don't know. We haven't seen anything. Great manager in the championship. Great manager in the championship. He gets you out of the championship, yeah. so yes it's a very strange one there didn't seem to be all that much disappointment around the world they were resigned to it let's be honest well exactly yeah and actually quite a solid performance to not go out on they've still got to play the rest of the season you can't get out of that but you know quite a solid performance you know on the during the game that ultimately confirms their relegation but yeah I don't even want to say sad to see them go because, yeah, by all accounts, we'll probably see them soon enough.

36:10Just be better next time. Yeah, don't embarrass us. Yeah. We've got to sell this to everyone else. Yeah, true enough. Well, it is a routine, they know, very clear. They say goodbye to the Premier League. They also say goodbye to VAR. So, you know, maybe they'll take a little bit of heart from that. Yeah. Poor old Burnley. One side, though, that were promoted last season, who surely will be in the Premier League next season, and Leeds United drew two all away to Bournemouth. What a goal from Sean Longstaff in the 97th minute. Good times at Leeds. You see, Parker we know. Scott Parker is a good manager in the Championship and he's struggled in the Premier League.

36:46He needs what we're now going to call a Daniel Farker season in the Premier League. It needs to be Scott Parker. Scott Farker. Yeah. If you just say his name, people won't understand that you're trying to do it well. Imagine around Daniel Farker's arms, how those stripes would look. That would be so big, wouldn't they? you know on Parker's fancy coat yeah yeah how do you like those stripes there'd be like little rings of Saturn around his big German arms would you like to comment on Sean Longstaff's goal yeah lovely I think he has been you know a really smart signing for them one that I I thought would be good from an experience point of view but I actually thought was quite not dull but I certainly didn't see him affecting as much, you know, certainly further up the pitch as he has done this season.

37:40And that's just a really nice, like, I feel like every person who plays midfield dreams of scoring that kind of goal. Like arriving late and just had a volley as well. And to do so, you know, at the end there, to get a point in what was like a really entertaining game. I wish kind of, you know, like, you know, sometimes this season, we've had like a 7.30 kickoff and an 8.15 kickoff. I think mainly for the Amazon games. I was like, would have loved that for this. Yeah, yeah. Trying to speak back and forth, but shame. Come on, Sky Sports. Sort it out. Sort it out. They've reached 40 points, Leeds United.

38:13Last time a side went down with 40 points, or in the 40-point bracket was West Ham when they were relegated in 2002, 2003, with 42 points. Blimey. I mean, yeah, they're totally fine now, surely. Oh, I would have thought so. I mean, you know, they are nine points above Tottenham Hotspur. OK, Spurs, West Ham and Forest have games in hand. But I think, yeah, Leeds have put themselves in a fabulous position there. They're as close to Bournemouth in seventh as they are to Spurs in 18th. Yeah, it's indeed. I don't think Leeds are going to catch Bournemouth. I don't think Spurs are going to catch Leeds.

38:52But Leeds, good times for them, as you say. to get an equaliser deep into stoppage time is always going to be pleasing. They have a semi-final to look forward to. Good times for Leeds United. But what about Bournemouth though? Disappointing for them. Yes, they're 14 games unbeaten. They're in seventh. They would have gone sixth with a win. But oh, so close. I mean, really, they had the chances to whisker away from going 3-1 up with, you know, a very narrow offside call. But if it's offside, it's offside. That's something that we've come to learn. I mean, they're a very good side. They still need to play Manchester City this season, of course.

39:32Annoyingly for Bournemouth is they love a draw just that much more than a win. They have by far and away the most draws. You get fewer points for a draw than you do for a win. And someone should really tell them that. They've got to know. They've got to know that. Yeah, it's not like two points for a win back in the day. So, yeah, they've drawn by far and away the most games of any side in the Premier League this season. But I find it extraordinary that only Man City and Arsenal have lost fewer games than Bournemouth in the league this season. That shows you how good they are. Currently with 49 points, they are...

40:04Sorry, Bournemouth fans. A win would have made it really, really interesting. So there will be a few disappointed sides. I say disappointed. I mean, wherever Brentford finish this season, I don't think you can call it a disappointment. But again, if you've made kissy faces at European spots and you don't get them, or you don't get one, then I can understand that. But in that pack of teams, it's all to play for. Two from the South Coast in contention. So, yeah, fascinating stuff. But, yes, Bournemouth ultimately drew the game. Thank you very much for listening to the Football Ramble part of the Acast Creative Network.

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