Jack's Encyclopaedia: World Cup scorers, prolific Germans and Jose's Madridistas

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4:31Previously on Jack's Encyclopedia. Every team to get relegate from the Premier League since the 2015-2016 season. There are 22 teams. Derby.

4:41Jim Campbell: You must be wrong here. Oh my God, David. Oh my God. Do you know when you said that I thought that's a shocker. I don't know. He's throwing himself in. I've got four other teams on my list and I've gone for them first. Oh, mate. It's not difficult to beat Marcus or Pete. Oh, there's a thing. Dean Smith also says we're an encyclopedia of football. What? An encyclopedia of football. I don't know what that means. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble. It's Friday afternoon and it's Jack's Encyclopedia. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Jim Campbell. And I'm the Dushin of Hunter Raja.

5:28Jim Campbell: Here we are, everybody. Now, after weeks of avoiding the Friday show and therefore the Friday game, Vish has come back to face the music. For the first time in a long time, the coveted Jack's belt is up for grabs. He'll be playing Marcus and I'm reffing and I'm reffing thrilled to be doing so. If you don't know the rules, they are simple. It is a game of categories. I will give you a category and then we will go around each of you to see if you can give me a valid answer. If you go too slow, I will press a countdown timer, leaving six seconds to answer. I don't care for chicanery and bending of the rules, as you both know, so I expect a good, clean game.

6:09Jim Campbell: Now, Marcus, you're up first as you are the challenger. How are you feeling today? Yes, can I have some answers? Yeah, I appreciate that position. I'm not going to fall for that one. I'm familiar with it myself. He almost did. With this game, obviously I've reffed it a fair few times myself. it really is easier when you have the answers so much easier it makes you realise I know that, I know that, I know it all I actually remember that one as well it seems a lot more simple when you know who everyone is Vish, how are you feeling? you've generally been quite cocky around these games not very confident I've been blindsided by this I thought I'd kind of got away with it scot-free if you stop doing Friday shows partly because of work partly because of cowardice you get to keep the belts yeah so I don't know why I tried it when I went to Australia and then you just invented another one yeah we did that but I mean you do enjoy going out and about on the town with your belt on particularly on a Friday night both of them on yeah and you just no trousers no trousers no trousers Jim come on it's the summer so look I'm ready to give him a damn good biffin alright well you are up first you have the opportunity for the first trouserless biff so the first category Marcus is the top 19 men's world cup goal scorers since the 1982 tournament so I'll repeat that top 19 men's world cup goal scorers since the 1982 tournament so none of you Jeff Hurst's but we are looking for the 19 players who've scored the most goals at the Men's World Cup from the 1982 tournament onwards.

7:58Jim Campbell: So, yeah, over to you, pal. Okay. These are the ones where you think, thank goodness I could start because I can get at least one right answer. Miroslav Klose. Correct. Thank you.

8:17Jim Campbell: Go on, go for a fancy one that you're not sure. Yeah, Kylian Mbappe. Kylian Mbabape I'm going to give you that one for the top 19 I'll go for the great Ronaldo Nazario correct there was also him wasn't there he's good oh no it will not surprise you that there are some big names in here Zinedine Zidane he's quite a big name that is a big one Marcus I just went for multiple Can I Tell me who you had written down Well Lionel Messi He's obviously there And then there's a few such as Gary Lineker will be in there I would Jürgen Klinsmann will be in there Klinsmann's in there I think Harry Kane might be in there He is If I was to Zidane did go through my mind To be honest with you if I was to showboat a bit would Paolo Rossi be in there?

9:22Jim Campbell: Paolo Rossi isn't in there and I was actually surprised by that reading through these because obviously he was golden boot in 82 I think I would have gone for him trying to be a bit clever excuse me yeah yeah no no no sure as my coaster falling off of my water if anyone wandered there so let me read let me read the 19 so there was Careca Christian Vieri Cristiano Ronaldo David Villa yeah well again And Cristiano Ronaldo, I thought you might go for when I said Ronaldo Nazarian. Diego Maradona, Gabriel Batistuta, Gade Lineker, Harry Kane, Jürgen Klinsmann, Kylian Mbappe, Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez, Miroslav Klose, Neymar, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Ronaldo Nazario, Rudy Voller and Thomas Muller.

10:05Jim Campbell: So Voller I had down, yeah. Muller. But it's so funny, I immediately went old school Germany. So yeah, Thomas Muller was one I didn't have. But I feel, do you know what? I did write Zidane's name down, but he was quite low on my list. You had a lot of them to be fair. So I wouldn't have gone for Paolo Rossi early on, by the way. I just wondered if it was 82. Marcus, you won the round. You don't need to keep winning it. Sorry, sorry. You'll 1-0 up. I'm just quite excited. I get excited by old World Cup stuff. I know. Now Vish goes first this time. And for the second round, every player to play in Liverpool's 4-0 second leg comeback victory against Barcelona in the 2018-19 Champions League semi-final, there are 28 players.

10:43Jim Campbell: so that includes the players who came off the bench. So that's every player to play in Liverpool's 4-0 second-leg comeback victory against Barcelona in the 2018-19 Champions League semi-final. 28 players. So both sides? Both sides, including subs. Cool, blimey. Divock Origi. Divock Origi was very much present on that evening. Trent Alexander-Arnold was quick thinking. Absolutely. Andy Robertson. Andy Robertson was, of course, there. Alison. Alison Becker, indeed. Why did you, honestly, heart and mouth. I knew he played. It's just like, he definitely played. Mo Salah. Oh, Vish. Mo Salah, you say.

11:27Jim Campbell: Famously didn't play. Yeah. Marcus, over to you. Did Lionel Messi play? Lionel Messi did play. Vish, I can't believe you've... I generally, it's completely slipped my mind that he didn't play was it because yeah they were Origi started it was a that was the big surprise that even without Salah it's 2-0 Marcus Jordan Shaqiri start the game the power cube did feature I don't know if he started so I'll read you the rest of the players there was Arthur sorry but we've given you a big task yes there's a lot of can you read the other 26 players could you have just gone a bit deeper let me just finish this bit of phone book Arthur Arturo Vidal Clemon Longley Daniel Sturridge Fabinho Jorginho Wijnaldum Gerard Piquet Ivan Rakitic James Milner Joe Gomez Jordan Henderson Jordi Alba Joel Matip Luis Suarez Malcolm Marc-Andre Tostegen Nelson Samedo Philippe Coutinho Sadio Mane Sergi Roberto Sergio Busquets Virgil van Dijk and the power cube himself Jordan Shaqiri are all players you could have picked but didn't Sturridge I was surprised you got a mention there it's quite a while ago now it was a while ago yeah oh dear

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17:10national team. Plus, if you want to test your soccer knowledge, try On the Ball. It's a game in the Guardian app and it's really, really fun. And if you're into stuff like this... Well, I think the problem is if you give footballers an inch, they will take a mile. Is it too much when it's this close? It's a bit much. It's a bit too real. Maybe you could just talk with a slight delay. Be sure to listen to our Football Weekly podcast for on-the-move expert analysis. The Guardian, bringing you the whole picture on soccer. Search Guardian Soccer for more.

17:42Jim Campbell: So, Marcus, you're up now. and this is a chance for you to win it, or it's a chance for Vish to get his head back in the game and mount the start of what would be a pretty historic comeback, but one we all know he's capable of. So the danger is not over for you, my friend. So, really annoying that this question isn't featured on the show when I'm trying to play this game. It's Arsenal's previous housemates. It's Arsenal's top 20 Premier League goal scorers, obviously of all time. Again, happy to go first and have Thierry Henry. Correct. He was quite good. Ian Wright. Ian Wright is also there. I was going to say.

18:22Jim Campbell: If that's not there, there's been a problem somewhere. Yeah, I'll have Robin Van Persie. Yeah, you will. Cesc Fabregas. Cesc Fabregas is there. Dennis Bergkamp. Dennis Bergkamp. Aubameyang. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is there. Olivier Giroud. Olivier Giroud is also there.

18:47Jim Campbell: suddenly the mind goes a bit thank you think of players who played for Arsenal and scored lots of goals Alexis Sanchez yep yeah I had him down Theo Walcott Theo Walcott is there there are some sort of surprising players in there but it's 20 it's a lot Lacazette Lacazette is there Robert Piroz Correct It's a good pressing game from you that Freddie Lindberg You're going to go Lindberg straight away Sylvain Wiltord Good, one for the heads Wiltord is there Getting dangerously close to the countdown Vish, I'm giving you a warning here Arshavin André Arshavin you say Marcus Oh hello Marcus No, André Arshavin is not present, you could also have had Aaron Ramsey, Mikaiya Saka, Emmanuel Adebayor, Gabriel Martinelli, Martin Odegaard, Meza Ozil, and Karnou.

19:52I didn't think about Ozil. I thought about Karnou as well. Oddly,

19:55Jim Campbell: Ozil was my next one. Yeah. Which, mad, because Saka. Yeah. Do you know, I was thinking of the current team and I thought, it's not Jokeres. And yeah, I had Ozil up next. I also had Hleb as well. Do you know what though, Arsenal, it's that, It's that period, isn't it, where Shemak went through my head. Yeah, I thought Shemak. I also thought Ali Adier. Ali Adier, do you know what I mean? Just because of longevity, but no. Patrick Vieira wasn't in there, was he? No. He wasn't a big goal scorer. Perez Lundberg, you're like, I'm not going in the center there. Gilberto Silva, no way. Yeah, and then I had the same thing.

20:36I was like, I'll just stick out wide. And then I kept thinking of Glenn Helder.

20:39Jim Campbell: Stop thinking of Glenn Helder. No, John Jensen famously never scored any bloody goals. What it does do this game, you know. Yeah. Well, I... Bish, you... He said he wasn't confident. 3-0 down now. Obviously, you've lost the game. You've got the opportunity to bring some... You know, to kind of, you know, at least get some... Don't say pride. You couldn't even bring yourself to say pride, could you? Well, you know... Why don't you do one of your Real Madrid answers again? Goal difference counts, doesn't it? Goal difference counts. So, we're going to carry on. I can't believe this from you, mate.

21:12Jim Campbell: It's quite amazing to see how the mighty have fallen here. You were just impossible to catch up with at one point, but here you are. It's your turn now. Well, when I'm on this sort of form, Jim. Well, exactly. When you are on this sort of form. When I'm having to give obvious answers to win the round. Because Vich has stuck every part of his body in a bucket and he's falling down the stairs. Right, Vich, your turn. Every German player with 10 or more goals in the Premier League, there are 19 players and for players with dual nationality we will only accept players who choose to represent Germany at international level.

21:50Jim Campbell: How many players are there? There are 19 and it's every German player with 10 or more goals in the Premier League. Jürgen Klinsmann. That was my first one. Jürgen Klinsmann is present and correct. I love Mesut Ozil. Yeah, you will. André Schürrle. André Schürrle. Oh, that's a nice answer. Good answer. That's the old fish, isn't it? I like the... The confidence of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I like that. It's not going to do anything from today, though, is it? Ten or more goals in the Premier League. Yes, ten or more. Right. Who am I? Lukas Podolsky? Lukas Podolsky. Oh, don't give me that. He's there.

22:26Jim Campbell: I just couldn't see his name. I was like, surely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Leroy Sané? Leroy Sané, you say? Yes.

22:38Jim Campbell: Who are the obvious ones I'm missing here?

22:44Jim Campbell: Going to have to give you a countdown soon. Yeah, you are. Yes. Come on, who's the obvious one? Maybe I'll just do that. Now, Michael Ballack? That's really good. Yeah.

22:59Karl-Heinz Reidler?

23:00Jim Campbell: Karl-Heinz Reidler. It's nice to hear his name and he is there. Well, I'm surprised at that. It was a bit of a risk, yeah. I stayed away from that.

23:16Jim Campbell: Christian Ziga. I don't think that's right. It is right. Oh my goodness! Ran him down. He's been in the Premier League a while. He was at Liverpool, he was at Spurs, wasn't he? This is a bit of a gamble. Uwe Rossler? Uwe Rossler. Oh, he'll be in there. He'll definitely be in there. Yeah, good shout, good shout. Getting harder and harder.

23:38Jim Campbell: Murta Saka yeah luck have already won the game though yeah it is isn't it it is so you went first so that is a point to you I'm sure there's an obvious one here there is one particular well two particularly obvious ones and I'll get to them now that's Kai Havertz oh my goodness wow Ilkay Gundogan you could also have had Didi Hamann Hamann Emre Chan Kevin Sharder oh yeah I always forget he's German, if I'm honest with you. Pascal Gross. He's at Brentford. I think he's Danish. Yeah. Robert Huth, which is a great one. Well, I wouldn't have guessed Huth, if I'm honest. If his name is coming to me on it.

24:15Jim Campbell: Thomas de Hammer Hitzelsperger. Oh, lovely. Timo Werner. And a Brentford player I didn't know was German. Vitaly Janel. There you go. Yeah. They're all Danish. Indeed. Indeed. It's all Danish to me. So, yeah, there we go. 3-1. He's avoided the whitewash. He has avoided the whitewash. so the goal difference matters Marcus why does the goal difference matter well because when at the end of the season tally it all up I'll be honest it's going to be you and Luke at the top but at the end of the season your percentage and so on that's when you go into the playoff to determine who wins the I think I'll be fine for the playoff yeah yeah come on let's get this one at least so Marcus knock that percentage down a tiny bit it's the final round come on Marcus you'll be thrilled with this because it's one of Vish's Real Madrid questions every player to make 50 or more appearances is for Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid in all competitions.

25:05Jim Campbell: That is 20 players. Blimey. Yes. Cristiano Ronaldo. Cristiano Ronaldo is there, funnily enough. Sergio Ramos. Sergio Ramos, of course.

25:18Jim Campbell: Mesut Ozil. Mesut Ozil. He's been good for me this game. Pepe. Pepe, absolutely.

25:29Jim Campbell: Some big names in here. Yeah. Karen Benzema is there. Casemiro? He was after. He was after. Come on. So it's 4-1. 4-1 to Marcus. Was Di Maria there? Di Maria was there. He's often present in these sort of things. So I'll read them out. You could have had Alvaro Albaloa, Angel Di Maria, Esteban Graniero, Fabio Coen-Feral, which I'm surprised by. Esteban Graniero is a lovely mention. Gonzalo Higuain, Ike Casillas, even though they fell out. Well, do you know what? I nearly went because I thought, I thought that. I'm sure he would have done. Jose Callejon, Kaká. Oh, I wouldn't have guessed that. The one I'm the most surprised by, Lassana Diara.

26:14Jim Campbell: That is a surprise. Really surprising, isn't it? Luka Modric, Marcelo, Raul Albiol, Ricardo Carvalho, Sammy Kadira, and Jabby Alonso. So Gareth Bale wasn't in there? Gareth Bale wasn't in there. Okay, interesting. Yeah, because that was Zidane. Yeah, there we go. Gareth Bale was much after that. 4-1 to Marcus. Fish, what have you got to say for yourself? Put your trousers back on when you go out tonight, big lad. I still have another belt. I still wear that. You've got as many belts as me now. It's true, yeah. When is the final? Are we the belt boys? I think we are the belt boys, yeah. The final's not going to be too long.

26:47You don't have to make a little game so you've both got belts.

26:50Jim Campbell: Not the Warriors. It's been so long since I beat you. The only last time I beat you was just before we went to Australia. Oh, was it in this? In Jackson's Wikipedia. The Wikipedia. Oh, I mean, probably. Yeah, I think it was when the Romans were invading. So the final will be towards the end of the Premier League season. Don't know exactly when yet, but it's not too far away. Well, look, I'm delighted about that. I'm sure everybody else other than Vish is delighted. I'm sure your parents will be delighted. Your brother certainly will be delighted. Yeah, he is. Yeah. I also, I think the first round, you would have got that anywhere.

27:24Jim Campbell: My eyes lit up at that first round, I have to say. and three other rounds as well yeah in a way well lovely old job everybody well done to me finally it's been a long time coming it was a great game Marcus you played a great game well I think I got lucky there were a couple of mistakes at the back but you capitalised I think it was I felt like Keir Starmer going to the last election Just let him mess it up and I'll be okay. So there we are, everybody. Thank you for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the ACAR's Creator Network. Follow us on all the socials. Get your tickets for our World Cup watch-along and do have a wonderful weekend.

28:12Jim Campbell: I'm choosing the music and you bet your bottom dollar it's pitbull, everybody. Oh, I'm a fireball. See you on Monday.

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