Keystone Scots | 2026 FIFA World Cup

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3:49Luke Moore: Yes I can Doubt but I leave everybody Welcome to the Football Ramble South Africa and Canada make history But Scotland have to wait It's Thursday 25th of June I'm Marcus Speller I'm Luke Moore And I'm Tim Campbell

4:13Luke Moore: Hello, everybody. Welcome to a thrilling Thursday here at the Football Ramble. Had to check the day. Sometimes during the old World Cup, you can forget. You can forget, but not I. Now, before we get on to the football, there are still a few tickets available for our watch party for England versus Panama this Saturday at 40 Foot Brewery, Black Horse in North London. Join us for, we're going to do a live on stage chat. We say stage, it's a load of pallets really stuck on top of one another. Pallets with an old off-cut of carpet over the top of it that we can stand on. Exactly, yeah. Apparently it's what rest of football are doing on Netflix.

4:48Jim Campbell: Yeah, well, if you can't do it on an old pallet, on an old cut-off bit of carpet on a Saturday night, where can you do it? Exactly.

4:55Luke Moore: Underneath the carpet, are they crystal pallets? I strongly doubt it. It wasn't worth it. It seems financially incomprehensible. It wouldn't be worth it. It wouldn't be worth it. A lot of money on stuff that's covered up. But yes, we're going to do that. We've got DJs pumping the tunes. You can have a conversation. Okay, let's be honest. You know, we're all of an age now. As long as you get on the mic. Well, indeed. There's good food. Very good food. Pints of my Physiant. Physiant's gone down very, very well. It's a great pint. It is. It's a lovely tipple. And the food's great as well. The tacos are so good.

5:27Luke Moore: Yeah, generally a great old time, everybody. Hit the ticket link in the episode description to get yours now. And again, a handshake, hug, or French kiss from one of us awaits you. A handshake from Marcus. I'll give a hug as well. Maybe a peck on the cheek. Not in these temperatures. Oh yeah, that's true. And it's going to be really hot on Saturday again. Well, hot and steamy. You'll be hugging everybody if England do the business. If England do the business. Brazil did the business last night, Jim. They did. Scotland 0, Brazil 3. Scotland finished the group with 3 points and a minus 3 goal difference.

6:03Luke Moore: They'll have to wait to see if that's good enough to qualify. A lot of people would have envisaged this. But some think, well, do you know what? It was all about that Haiti game. Win the Haiti game and see where you are. Some would have taken the 1-0 loss against Morocco, as negative as that sounds. But anyway, that was the result. But against Brazil, 3-0. I mean, to be honest, it could have been 4. Yeah. It could have been 4. Or it could have been 1. Yeah, I suppose there's ways of spinning this, aren't there? Yeah. But what did you think, Jim, of the way Steve Clarke set up for this game? Much was made about what he would do.

6:38Luke Moore: Would it be a back five? Would it be Che Adams up front? How would he approach the game just to kind of really kind of cling on for a point or a 1-0 or something like that? He didn't approach it like that. They lost 3-0. But how did you see it?

6:52Jim Campbell: Well, I liked that he started Lawrence Shankland and Ben Gannendoke. I thought that was fairly ambitious in terms of the, certainly the theory of how they kind of set out to play. I think early on, it was fairly evenly matched without either team really doing much. While I feel like Scotland were trying to figure Brazil out a bit in the early stages and then kind of see what sort of barrage they would be up against, see what kind of opportunities they might get on the counter, see how tricky that midfield battle might be. I think actually, early on, Brazil didn't really seem particularly threatening.

7:29Jim Campbell: Now, obviously, they were the better team throughout the whole game. And ultimately, Scotland didn't really threaten to score with any kind of real chance until that, like, Scott McTominay kind of shot in the box right at the end. Or the headheader as well. Yeah, fair point. But it still didn't rule, ultimately. Yeah, ultimately. And it is so easy to be fatalistic, I think, about Scotland, isn't it? We see this with our fans all the time. And it feels just so... It feels like it was always going to happen, that there was going to be a dropped testy at a key moment. And the fact that it happened so early on was just so, so deflating.

8:06Jim Campbell: And it looks like... It's not like scoring a goal where Brazil have kind of carved you open. It feels like you've given them a gift, completely rattled your own confidence. We saw a few times, you know, that Scotland were not comfortable in situations where otherwise they would be, I think. I just think it's the worst possible start. It feels very fatalistic again, doesn't it? that they're not technically out yet and they have to wait, which is awful. But I think this is something a lot of people were predicting, wasn't it, even after the Haiti game, that this would be how it went. Could they phone Middlesbrough to get some tips?

8:38Luke Moore: It may be. You know what that was? Good. But yeah, I mean, that start, obviously the start was, you could say, was worse against Morocco because they were, but the fact is it's another early goal conceded and in that manner. It also just renders, it renders any preparation of how they were going to set up, what they've been working on, how they were going to go about the task in front of them totally obsolete because it doesn't really matter who you are or how you play or who you're playing against if you execute in that way. I mean, the thing is, they were pretty fortunate to get the second one chalked off.

9:12They were. At the very least, you could say it's really weak defending. I mean, and ultimately, if you look at the replay, it's good forward play. I mean, he nips in there and the Scottish defender kicks him. Well, do you know what? And you sort of think, okay, they've got away with one there, but by that point, they're already a goal down. Their confidence is on the floor. The negativity of the manager generally is, I understand he's disappointed after the game. He says what he said. He said it after the Morocco. He cut a really kind of grumpy figure after the Morocco game as well.

9:44Luke Moore: It's a Cole Palmer-esque approach to being interviewed. But Cole Palmer is more naive, though. It's not like sinister and kind of grumpy. Cole Palmer's just like, he's just not bothered I don't fully understand why I've got to do this I'll just do it it's not I don't think he's rude Cole Palmer I just think he's well okay he's not intentionally rude but I'm not suggesting that Steve Clarke is kind of generating this type of mood around the camp more broadly because the camp seems like quite a good one but it's like it just leaves a bit of a bad taste you don't do that to someone like Ellie Barber well quite she's just doing her job isn't she but look I think ultimately to answer your original question it doesn't actually matter it doesn't matter if you decide you're going to be brave and use Ganondorf as an outlet it doesn't matter if you're going to play Shanker ahead of Adams because he's more of a threat it doesn't matter that you're going to play McTominay a little bit further forward and give him a platform of which to operate because ultimately you've got no chance of being able to operate against any competent team if you make those kind of individual errors I'm not criticising McKenna personally or anything like that it can happen, the occasion is massive and they're playing up against a good team and the weight of history is on them I get the pressure is high, but I don't think you can blame the manager for that type of stuff because ultimately the basics have got to be done.

11:00And people make that kind of, I think people make that kind of category error when they're talking about really philosophically concrete managers like, say, Guardiola. Like, oh, yeah, you always have to put it back all the time. And if you make a mistake, you make a mistake. It's like, well, yeah, but you're not lobotomized. You do have to better make a decision for yourself. If you're running back towards your own goal, for example, there's no options. It's not that bad to stick it out for a throw and get your shape back. Like with this type of thing, you know, you're up against one of the world's best forwards.

11:30You know how quick he is. You know how good he is. You can't really be doing that.

11:35Luke Moore: And you just saw Andy Robertson as Brazil is celebrating as they go back. And he's got his hands on his hips and he just looks at Scott McKenna and he just motions as if points ahead and just goes, get it forward. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like it's just kind of like, he's doing around to berate the lads. You know what I mean? What is it? His first start, I think, at the tournament. There's no point. You just, it's such a sicker. An awful start. And yes, you mentioned the second Brazil goal, which of course wasn't a goal. It was chalked off. The very handsome Jack Hendry was sort of robbed by Vinicius Jr.

12:08Luke Moore: Now this, the refereeing at this tournament has been very, very odd at times, to say the least. I think it's been inconsistent for sure. It's the dictionary definition of inconsistent. because you look at some of the things, a lot of people think Esri Kahn's got away with... That's a definite penalty. Yeah, he got away with... You guys said that yesterday, didn't you? Yeah. A definite penalty. Got away with one there. Obviously Mbappe against Senegal is the gold standard for me at this tournament. Yet they want to let the game flow. And then other times you think, well, why on earth has he blown up for that?

12:39Luke Moore: Because there's one angle, the first angle you see of that one, it looks like Vinicius Junior sort of kicked the back of Henry. Yeah, it's like he basically trips him. And then you see the other angle and you go, oh, it's not that at all. The referee went over to the screen. He was very quick. I wonder if the ref saw that first angle and then just didn't and then gave it. I wonder if that's the case.

12:59Jim Campbell: They have been quicker with VAR in general in this tournament. I know, Jim. As they so often are in international tournaments. But you've got to see it from... Oh, I completely agree.

13:06Luke Moore: Do you see what I mean? I think you might be right. I think... I mean, look, Brazil's not going to complain. They top the group and all the rest of it. But that, I thought was very poor decision. It doesn't matter, does it, because of the situation. But they're not at the point of making that. No, no, it's not. I agree with you. I actually agree with you. I think the further bit of evidence I wanted to throw in there, read the Scottish set-up and how they prepared for the game, was actually Angus Gunn's behaviour for the first goal. If you look at how edgy they all are, you look at how quickly they get caught out, and you look at Angus Gunn, basically, when McKenna gets caught, Gunn flies out of his goal.

13:42He flies out, he makes it so easy, there's no calm head. I know it's easy to judge, I know it's a situation where you've got a player bearing down on you, but he essentially instantly makes Vinicius Juno's decision for him. But do you not think, though? And so, I... Well, is it... Say what you want to say. I was going to say that Vinicius Juno's going to get to the ball first.

14:03Luke Moore: He's incredibly quick. Well, don't fly out, then. And it's panic stations. Yeah, but if he stays, Vinicius Juno's... I don't even like the phrase panic stations. To be honest, I think Marcus is right. Yeah. We're going to mention that later. But my point is that with Vinicius Jr., he's so quick and so good. You've got to go all in one way or the other. Because if you kind of halfway house, Vinicius Jr. is going, well, that's easy to tap in the net. I think he... It's a bit harsh to criticize. It is harsh. I agree it's harsh. But he instinctively flies out a million miles an hour.

14:33Jim Campbell: I think a lot of players, though, you can smother them in that situation. But Vinicius Jr. is such that he's got the skill to just essentially do that little swivel, pivot, little stop, little lay of the land, tap into an open net. because he's such an elite player. He makes all those decisions and executes that so, so quickly. The Nathan Patterson defending for his header as well wasn't great. Well, I mean, yeah. He gets dragged, gets sucked in. And it's right at the end of the half as well. The second goal was a sort of systemic failure, though, wasn't it? Three or four players who should be doing better in that moment.

15:03Luke Moore: But I think, though, that when we talk about Scotland-Brazil, there's a lot of goodwill towards Scotland. And we are forgetting that Brazil are a better side. Of course. And I think that, you know, and it was exhausting, you know, the heat and all the rest of it. And as well, Scotland are probably used to, I don't know how much this is a valid point or not, but Scotland are used to their fans being the noisiest in the stadium. You heard the anthems, you know, Flower of Scotland's belt, and then suddenly the Brazil one, you go, oof, this is like a home game for Brazil. And it cuts to that one bloke who's louder than about, you know, half the other end.

15:35Luke Moore: Exactly, yeah. So, like, it all goes into it. And the second goal is the type of goal, it's disappointing. It can happen. It's disappointing, but because of the first one, it's done really at 2-0.

15:47Jim Campbell: Well, even then though, Angus Gunn makes a good save at that point. It's extremely unlikely that they're going to come back into it, but even at half time. Looking at Brazil's performance, we were all saying in the group chat during the game, and I think this was kind of proven to be the case, I suppose, a little bit later. It's like, this is not a vintage Brazil team. Even though they've won 3-0 here, and obviously Vinicius Jr. is really standing out in particular, and the third goal is excellent. It's like, I still don't quite know what their true level is.

16:16Luke Moore: Jim, I'll tell you what's happening with Brazil right now because everybody was thinking they're very light in midfield. It's very open in midfield. But you know one of the centre-halves better than Luke and I do. They've got two of the best centre-halves in the world. They've just got good attacking talent. In the middle of the pitch, yeah, okay, could be a bit pedestrian, blah, blah, blah. I'm thinking Ancelotti is turning this lot into Real Madrid 23-24 where they went and won the Champions League. remember? I think that they beat Man City on penalties on the way, which was an extraordinary season where they kept winning late.

16:47Luke Moore: Late goals and all that kind of stuff. It was not pretty at all. It was incredibly effective. Brazil will now start to go, okay, this is what we've got. How do we play to our strengths? And they do have strengths. They have weaknesses, but they have strengths. And I couldn't, it wouldn't, it's funny because at the start of the game, the first, even the first half an hour, I'm thinking there might be a chance maybe they get Japan or something in one of the The moment as it stands they'll play Japan Oh is that I thought Japan will beat these and towards the end of the game I'm a bit like oh hang on there's something else and there was a chat wasn't there that Scotland thought oh hang on we've got a bit of a foothold and them saying Brazil were totally fine with that Do you also remember a while back I forget which tournament it was now everyone was really big on Chile and they played Brazil and Brazil didn't look great at the time and Brazil still got past them it was almost a bit kind of his massive like big brother type scenario I'm the bigger brother here you're the little brother You'll have your moments.

17:40Luke Moore: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like the same with Japan. Yeah, you can win a few battles, but the war, gentlemen. Exactly. It will be Brazil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I said, just to circle back around to what you were talking about with Scotland, you've made the point that Brazil are a much better team. Of course they are. You know, there's that old anecdote, isn't there, in 1982, where Sunese is doing the coin flip at the start of the game because he's the captain of Scotland. I forget who the captain of Brazil was. It was Zico, maybe? Maybe. And the referee shakes both their hands and says, yeah, may the best team win and Graham Sunez says, I fucking hope not.

18:10You know, right? That's true. That's great, Sunez. It's the apocryphal tale, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we get that. It's a similar situation here, although this Brazil team clearly aren't the 1982 Brazil side, really, because obviously they'd be really old now. But the point is, it's the manner of how they go about it. If you have any chance whatsoever of getting a positive result, even a draw, right? Even a fucking nil-nil where it's like the Alamo, right? You have to keep it tight. We all know that. You have to get in your shape. You have to basically do what Ghana did against England, which is fucking amazing.

18:41It's discipline and its physicality and its kind of tactical awareness and following the plan to the letter. Now, if Ghana's centre-backs did what Scott McKenna did, England would have won that game probably 3-0. They're the margins. And so it's the manner of it, not the... I think what I'm getting at, I suppose, is the Scottish players and the coaching staff this morning we'll be thinking we didn't really give the account ourselves we could have.

19:08Luke Moore: And this is my fear for Scotland is that if indeed they miss out you know because the percentages before I think after the full-time whistle Opta had worked out that there was a 49.2 % was it on the BBC they were saying chance of Scotland going through well after last night's after Group A's subsequent results I think it's gone down to what 38 point something percent so you can see it dropping and it will be very interesting. But my fear for Scotland is that they miss out and they look around and they look at themselves and go, ah, but you know, we didn't help ourselves. I think they want a chance to put it right.

19:48They'll feel like they want a chance to put it right. And if it stays as it is now, which it's not going to because there's so much football to be played, because we can only deal in the reality in which we're in at the moment. If it stays as it is now, they're playing Mexico and the Azteca. That's a big test. If they get through that,

20:02Luke Moore: you know who they might play? But if they get through that, I don't think that's much... The incentive of maybe playing England in the next round, I don't know. But my point is they'll want a chance to put it right. Yeah, of course, of course. If they go out against... If they go through and they play someone like Mexico at the Aztec, they'll want to say, you know what? We are better than this. We can give a better account of ourselves than this. We're tactically better than this. And we've got some players who can play, which they have. They have got some serious Premier League operators. They've got some players playing in top leagues around Europe.

20:29So they need to give a better account of themselves than that. And I think that'll be the regret.

20:32Luke Moore: Well, I think, yeah, but I think ultimately the problem for Scotland is the firepower up front, is that creativity. And it's very difficult to create chances against a Brazil side who boast Gabriel and Marquinhos at the back. Do you know what I mean? So it's not a huge criticism. It is the reality that, yes, it is probably the best Scotland squad we've seen in a while. Hence, they're at the cup.

20:51Jim Campbell: But even if they got a draw, it would have been one of the best results in their history. Exactly. That's the type of task they were up against. There is no shame or surprise in them losing like this. it's just the manner of those first two goals as Luke suggests will be the regret won't it and is the thing where you look at that and just think oh god that was so so avoidable because if you keep the score down if it goes nil nil at half time maybe Brazil start to panic almost certainly not the Ancelotti factor is perhaps coming into play here with the you know as you mentioned with the comparison to his Real Madrid team but yeah that is that is a sickener

21:23Luke Moore: Jim if it was nil nil after an hour or even one nil one thing would be sure Neymar wouldn't have come on

21:30Jim Campbell: Neymar and Hendrik being on the pitch at the same time feels like that's going to be a sort of quiz question in Brazil when years to come

21:35Luke Moore: The chat in Brazil is that actually he hates Hendrik Yeah He's like he doesn't want to as in he never plays him and they're like can you get this lad on the pitch and there's a bit of chat there but Neymar coming on I tell you what it was was it good to see him I think it was He's a funny It's definitely a talking point He's definitely a talking point I mean producer Rory when Neymar came on at 3-0 he says on the WhatsApp, if you don't mind me, Rory, he's quoting you here. Nothing says we're shit like the opposition manager bringing on a player he literally wishes wasn't in the squad.

22:09Luke Moore: He's like, get him on the pitch, I haven't got to talk to him for 10 minutes. This will shut him up for 10 minutes. He can't take his phone with him on the pitch.

22:21Luke Moore: Is he doing an Instagram Live? Yeah. I haven't... Neymar camp. I haven't seen Neymar play football for I don't know how long. A long time, yeah. Was it two and a half years since he last played for Brazil? Oh, well, that was it then. Blimey O 'Reilly. But yeah, he was on there. He didn't score, but he didn't need to. They ran out winners. One thing I would say about Brazil is at times in the game, zipping the ball about, they've got good pace in that team and I can see them doing something. They've got a lot of good individual players. That's the thing. And they've still got that aura about them.

22:55Luke Moore: Nobody wants to play Brazil. And I think that was part of the Scotland story last night. I think you play the idea of Brazil rather than Brazil. You know the history that's come along. Scotland don't qualify for World Cups that often. When they do, they tend to play Brazil for some weird reason. They played them in 82. They played them in 90. They played them again. 98. Sorry, 98, yeah. No, they did play them in 90. Yeah, they played them in 90 and 98. Yeah, mad, isn't it? And so it seems to always get drawn together. And it felt the weight of history kind of got to them. So, look, it's one of those.

23:22I hope they go through and get a chance. not because I think they'll they'll go deep in the tournament because I just don't think they're good enough for that but what I do think is they'll want to redeem themselves I think there's an element though I mean some Scottish fans might think do we really want to go through for the first time ever in this kind of manner it's a bit of a consolation prize type thing I suppose

23:43Luke Moore: I get that I do get that but you know if someone else can break the glass ceiling for you then just get it broken I think whoever you get in the next round if you are fortunate enough to go through. Whoever you get, give a good account yourself. You don't want to leave the tournament with the Brits. Leave everything on the pitch. Yeah, indeed. But was there something else going on last night? You can talk about the tactics, you can talk about the individual talent and so on and so forth. But before this match, a Brazilian spiritualist claimed that aliens were going to invade the planet and abduct players from the game.

24:14Well, they fucking invaded Scott McKenna's head.

24:17Luke Moore: I mean, it is possible that... They abducted him from the game. Yeah. So can we rule out that it did happen? Hang on, hang on, Luke. I think you've been a bit flippant. Jim just said, it's possible, and then you cut him off. Well, I was going to say,

24:28Jim Campbell: it's possible that this was in the player's head. Oh, okay. Both sides of them, in which case, I think Brazil did even better. Now, this lady has made this prediction. The reason she thought it would happen was because she dreamt about it. 24 million Instagram followers. We are simply doomed as a species. We are just not prepared for the challenges we face. We are done. The other night, I dreamt that I sat on a hedgehog I'm going to have to pull the spines out of my arse. Interpret, Jim. Interpret that dream dream. But I don't go around... I suppose I just have broadcasted. I don't go around saying that that means it's going to happen to everyone.

25:01Luke Moore: That's true. That's true. Yeah, leave hedgehogs alone. Don't sit on them for crying. It was an accident in the dream, I have to say. Still, be more careful. Yeah, I will do. Yeah, always check your seat for a hedgehog. Good news, though, in terms of a Ghanaian witch doctor who said he hexed Harry Kane. And Harry Kane, he did miss that chance. And that did work. He claims to have now released Harry Kane from the hex. Appreciate that. He said, I am the most powerful spiritualist in the whole world. Now I'm going to release Harry Kane so that his next match he can score. He's had a look at the pictures.

25:33Luke Moore: He's probably bagging. Sounds a bit like Nick Hewer, doesn't he? He does.

25:37Jim Campbell: A little bit like Nick Hewer, yeah. I wonder what Nick Hewer's up to since he left Countdown. Trick Hewer. Trick Hewer, yeah. I do appreciate him releasing him from the hex. Yeah, I do. It's like the Bella Goopman thing, isn't it? It is a bit. I mean, you can't really in any way prove that. Exactly. Yeah, you've got to judge them on the results. And the hex, you can't prove it didn't work. You can't say that you didn't see Harry Kane blaze that one over the bar off Nico O 'Reilly's crossbar header. I'd not think there was some kind of hex on the man.

26:06Luke Moore: It does seem strange. It does seem strange. In the other match in Scotland's group, Morocco beat Haiti 4-2. It's a brilliant game. Yeah, it was. Haiti, come on. Do you know what? It's so annoying the way that they've changed the system in this World Cup. A lot of people saying this about head-to-head from goal difference. Because at 2-1, Haiti should be thinking, we've got a chance here to slip into third place. They lost all three games, though. Head-to-head or goal difference if you lose every game. No, but the fact is they go in. At that point, it was on. Well, indeed, but also going into this game, other than pride, and my goodness, they've got some of that, nothing to play for.

26:39Luke Moore: It's piss-poor.

26:40Jim Campbell: Is it not just the reality that there is simply no way to eliminate dead rubbers? It's just...

26:45Luke Moore: Well, I feel we've got more this time round. I don't know if that's true.

26:49Jim Campbell: I think what they should do is they appoint an independent adjudicator for the next World Cup for each group, and they will decide based on vibes which system is in play for each group. One of these spiritualists, man. Use Nick Heuer, the Ghanaian witch doctor. And you can choose vowels or consonants for your head.

27:09Luke Moore: Hatery, too many vowels. Out. That sounded less like Nick Hewer than your guy now in which I should do. Scotland into the next round. Speaking of the next round though, I do want to talk about this Morocco-Hater game because it was brilliant. And that Wilson Isidore's goal was probably one of the goals of the tournament. Do you know it was a proper goal? Because their first goal looked lovely, but it actually went down as an own goal. In real time, it looked like an amazing flick, but it wasn't. Well, it did. It was their first goal at the tournament since 1974, I think. And so it was like, oh, that was, oh, it's an own goal.

27:40Luke Moore: Oh, and then Isidore went out. A bit of history here for me.

27:42Jim Campbell: Yeah, more Sunderlandification of the World Cup. Well, indeed, Jim. Indeed. It was great. There's been a lot of long-range goals that have been really satisfying. And that was up there with the best of them, I think. And as things stand as well, I'm excited by this. Morocco looks like they'll play Netherlands in the next round. The hashish derby. Oh, legalise that. Yeah. It's quality.

28:03Luke Moore: The Robin Van Persie derby. Oh, yeah. Didn't he grow up in a... Get Cypress Hill doing the national anthem. Didn't Robin Van Persie. It's the absolute hashish derby, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Didn't Robert Van Persie grow up in a neighbourhood which was quite Moroccan-influenced? Maybe. Maybe. So, yeah, I don't know. If I've made that up, then... But I'm keeping it, the Robert Van Persie derby. Well, anyway. Now, how about this? Some South Korean and Japanese academics have released an academic paper titled Orientation-Dependent Drag Crisis and Flight Response of the FIFA World Cup Matchball Trionda.

28:37Jim Campbell: Based on that title, I put it to you. Are they academics or are they boffins?

28:41Luke Moore: They are boffins. Definitely boffins, I think. I mean, they can be both, but if you want one or the other, Jim, then I would go boffins. They've been testing the World Cup ball in a wind tunnel and found that if it reaches a certain velocity, it starts to fly faster. Who would have thought that? Do you need a wind tunnel to know that? No. If you kick the ball really hard, it's going to move faster.

29:01Jim Campbell: I actually... Yeah. Well, it's... Wilson Isidore will tell you that. It's more about it slowing down later, isn't it? That's what they've learned. You're beginning to sound like one at every point. Joe Hart called it. He didn't need anything to do with qualifications whatsoever.

29:17Luke Moore: Yeah, well, he's repeatedly said goalkeepers at this tournament are struggling to judge the speed of the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Isidore, judge that. Presumably, though, they do get a chance to work with the ball before the games. And I feel like we have this conversation maybe every two... Yeah, you don't get a ball at all if you're around. every two or three tournaments, they have this problem with the ball. It's the same with the Jabalani. Jabalani was the gold standard, wasn't it?

29:38Jim Campbell: I can't believe we're into the third group game or third round of group games before this has come up, though. That's got to be a record. I thought we were going to have a whole tournament where no one mentioned the ball being tricky. It used to be before the tournament. Yeah, yeah. It's very strange. What I need to do is I need to get Louis Grandin in front of a camera to go, it's rounder. Like he did in that classic Nike album back in the day.

29:56Luke Moore: And presumably Uri Geller, because he can help with such things, can't he? I don't think he doesn't bend balls, does he? Well, like Beckham. He was there last night with his big glass. Massive glass of red wine getting stuck in. I'll tell you what. That was proper insult to injury stuff for Scottish fans, that one. It really was. At one point, they lose the Brazil. Terrible errors all over the pitch. Could be going home. They're all fucking sweating. Probably a bit pissed and a bit annoyed. And they cut to David Beckham with the largest glass of red wine you've ever seen over a lovely time. Towards the end of the game, there's about five minutes left.

30:26Luke Moore: He leaned over and obviously hugged the bloke who was sat next to him. I didn't know who it was, if it was anybody I should. and he's obviously leaving before the rush as well. This is done. Brazila threw. Yeah. It was insult to injury, I thought. I see Gerard Butler, though. Looked like he had a whiskey on the go, fittingly. Yeah. So there we are. Needed one. Right. Coming up after this, talking of old boys, Guillermo Ochoa gets his big moment.

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33:13Vargas in the area, still within on the right side, stepping over, sending it back for Lindsay. which is back into the area for Svatorski. One touch, he scores! Another one for Svatorski! And that one was more impressive than the first! Darren Cannes there.

33:31Jim Campbell: A real boy. Doing commentating. Yeah, a real boy. A real boy. Amazing, amazing voice. It sounds like Mickey Mouse. Yeah, or what, Pinocchio? Yeah, I got the reference. Good. I wouldn't be surprised if the same person who voiced Pinocchio also voiced Mickey Mouse. Yeah, and they're both Jordan Peterson. Or Darren Cairn. Just raw beef from me! Oh dear.

33:56Luke Moore: At least have it medium rare. Now Mexico beat Czech Republic 3-0. The co-host made it 3 wins from 3 in Mexico City. World Cup vibes, Jim Campbell.

34:05Jim Campbell: It's one of those ones where, you know the score, you put the 9 minute highlights on, first 5 minutes are on absolute terrain, you're like, oh this is gonna be good for him. It simply has to be amazing from now on. And it did not disappoint, did it?

34:17Luke Moore: Yeah, this is one of those ones. Mexico already threw, they're playing in front of their home fans, and as you say, they turned it on. And even the 94th minute goal, it's just like everything. It's just what an evening for them.

34:27Jim Campbell: It was kind of... I mean, the Czech Republic didn't really do themselves any favours in defence either, did they? Less they credited them out of space. Fair to say, fair to say. Yeah, it's great for Mexico to win all three games though. It's going to be a very, very exciting time for them. And that Quinones fella looks a tidy player. He's looked great from the very first minute of the first game. Really direct and really powerful and purposeful. And Gilberto Moura coming on and getting an assist as well. We started. He had the absolute... Sorry, did he start the game? He started the game.

34:52Luke Moore: He became the sixth youngest chap to start a World Cup match. He got the freedom of the pitch for his assist. Yeah. I mean, it was absolutely remarkable. He had no pressure on the ball. There was no one around him at all. And the gap between the centre-backs was about 30 yards wide. Slide it in. Slide it through. It's fine. Yeah, the Czechs have not given a good account of themselves at this World Cup, sadly for them. But Mexico have. And so much so, we talk about Neymar coming on, and, you know, go on then with 3-0 up, fill your boots. Guillermo Ochoa was subbed on with 10 minutes to go. They were only 2-0 up at that point, to be fair.

35:23Luke Moore: Still jeopardy. Yeah, exactly. I think with that Czech defending, they thought we should be a third. I loved it when the third went in. Pit one up front. Yeah, Ochoa was probably like, I was in the air celebrating. He was on the pitch for it. That's great stuff. It's his sixth World Cup involvement. Involvement, Jim. Only Messi and Ronaldo, isn't it? What's the expected involvement, XI, for the next World Cup with Ochoa?

35:46Jim Campbell: Surprisingly high, based on this.

35:49Luke Moore: So, yeah, only Messi and Ronaldo have been involved in six World Cups. I mean, Messi and Ronaldo have played a lot more. Ochoa, I think he was an unused sub in 06 in 2010. Which seems incredible. He came back in 2014 and corrected that. But there he is again. Look, it's very much a little bit of a gimmicky sort of substitution. should but I was into it though.

36:11Jim Campbell: But you know you're 3-0 up having won your third group game. 2-0 up Jim. Sorry 2-0 up having won your third group game at home you're sailing through into the next round. Why not? Give his team confidence to go and get a third. Totally.

36:23Luke Moore: I love the fact that he was like yeah I'm definitely up for this because some people would have been like nah come on it's a bit as you say gimmicky or whatever he's like nah nah nah nah if this party's going to be good I'm going to make it even better.

36:31Jim Campbell: Bring on Hugo Sanchez and Carlos Vela for a little dink. Do it all. I don't think anyone is realistically at the age he is and the nationality is going to be going I'm not sure I want to come on at the Azteca in the World Cup going for my nation that's a bit gimmicky that

36:47Luke Moore: but you've got to say he kept a cloochie he's saying get me fucking on there yeah yeah right yeah I want to be a part of this and he was part of it he was I mean they have been brilliant

36:55Jim Campbell: we've been talking all tournament haven't we about how it's always a good thing when the hosts do well they're all kind of delivering on that I don't know Canada have spluttered a little bit but they're through to the next round so that's great but Mexico themselves again it's sort of hard to gauge their level, isn't it? They'll be full of confidence and they've got this obsession in Mexico, haven't they, about the fifth game and getting past that second round. Allow England to accommodate them. Yeah. Obviously, it's a bit easier this time because of the extended tournament and the extra round.

37:24Jim Campbell: But I mean, they look well capable of being a problem for a lot of teams. I still think, you know, any of the big hitters will probably break their hearts,

37:33Luke Moore: but they've done everything they can so far. But the Azteca, though, with that home support and so on and so forth. They've got a real chance. They'll knock England out. Three wins from three, six goals for, none against. I don't think they're a great side, but on the old vibes alone. Done the business. They're going to knock England out of the World Cup. Okay. That's what I think is going to happen. All right. Fair enough. Well, keep your powder dry. In the other game in this group, South Africa sensationally had gone through. Come on. They came from nowhere. After that first game, when Mexico beat them 2-0.

38:05Luke Moore: Yeah. It was 2-0 going on about 5-0. Two men sent off. There is nobody on the planet who thought South Africa had turned this around. And even when they drew one all with the Czech Republic, literally I think the first line on the BBC report was, well this result was no good for either team. And then they go against South Korea who looked pretty good against Czech Republic, South Korea okay against Mexico, but they were very poor and now they've got to wait for, you know, how the... They're in the waiting room, the third place waiting room. third place purgatory they're in there at the moment but my goodness and also as well with South Africa not a great side an awful start to the tournament they've never been to the knockouts before in a World Cup such an unlikely result there was nothing you saw from them to think they were better do that against South Korea who aren't amazing but have got some quite good players and look quite well organised and all the rest of it it was a surprising result it really was they've been really disappointing since that first game they have there's no doubt about that but this Honestly, I mean, it was not a great game.

39:05Luke Moore: It was a bit stodgy, but South Africa squeezed through, and Hugo Bruce was loving it after the full-time whistle. He could barely celebrate the goal he's so old. Yeah. He was like, I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but... Do you know what I think the emotion of it got to him as well? Yeah, but the mobility simply isn't there to express it. He got out of his seat a good couple of seconds after all the other coaches. They were like, no, we have scored. It was Roy Hodgson-esque. Was he watching it on a stream, which was three seconds behind? He might have been. Maybe he was. Yeah, maybe he was.

39:31Luke Moore: Roy Hodgson-esque. But I mean, they've done amazingly. It's historic for them, clearly. It's literally historic for them. So I think they'll play Canada, don't they, in the next round? They are in Los Angeles. Yeah. Yeah, because we'll get to Canada a bit. But it's incredible. I think this is what you want if you're a side. You've made your history. You go into that Canada game. Yeah, they'll be competitive in that fixture. Don't get me wrong. And it's not like, ah, we can just throw the towel in, lads. We're okay. But those South African players at full time, marvellous result. I'm genuinely delighted for them.

40:00Luke Moore: But yeah, South Korea. They are in the third place purgatory, as we are calling it. But they're above Scotland, confirmed. They are confirmed above Scotland, yeah. So that's why the percentage of Scotland going through has actually dropped down. So South Korea have done Scotland, what's the opposite to a solid? A disservice. A floppy? I don't know. A runny? I've done them a runny. They've done them a liquid. Or potentially a gas. Now, with South Africa going through, We want to hear from as many fans of nations still in the tournament as possible. So if the team you support is still in with a shout of World Cup glory, and if you're English, don't bother, email us to tell us how you're feeling, showatfootballramble.com.

40:45Luke Moore: Or maybe you could, actually, if you've got something funny to tell. Then get involved, showatfootballramble.com. The more exotic, the better. So yes, South African and Canadian fans, do let us know, because you are facing off in Los Angeles in the last 32 on Sunday. and Canada they lost 2-1 to Switzerland but scored one of the most pleasing goals of the cup so far it was a great goal aesthetically very very pleasing really good goal yeah it's a shame that they couldn't get that equaliser because they would have then played in Canada I think for the last 32 this game as you said it ended up 2-1 but the first half was quite boring and it really got into its stride in the second half I chose to watch this game over the Bosnia game which was probably a mistake because Bosnia were, the Bosnia game seemed it was pretty decent.

41:30But the goal, not only did the goal, the score proved to be very aesthetically pleasing, it basically happened instantly after a sub came on.

41:39Jim Campbell: When it was his first touch, wasn't it? He was the sub. In a similar way to Lukaku, although Lukaku obviously wasn't given the goal for Belgium, but this was a much more pleasing goal to watch. It was great. And I wondered whether they were going to kind of get back in, fight for a draw and get that draw they needed. But, well, they didn't necessarily need it, but wanted, I suppose. But Switzerland, I thought, were a bit too canny for them, really.

41:58Luke Moore: Yeah, I would say so. I think that shows you where the experience and a bit more quality kind of gets you. I don't think, though, looking at the bigger picture, if I may for a moment, that I think it could end up all right for Canada, because despite what we've said about South Africa, they're not a great side, and they've got South Africa, whereas Switzerland, I appreciate they would have wanted to play in Canada. I totally understand that. but a very sort of quick look at the potential opponents that Switzerland could play it does really depend Belgium or Iran Ecuador or Ivory Coast Austria or Algeria the permutations are so mad at the moment it's Algeria is it Algeria I think you'd rather play South Africa yeah South Africa seems to be yeah so I I did say earlier in the competition that South Africa haven't got any good players.

42:50So, I mean, and they're qualified. So, I mean, maybe they're being underestimated.

42:55Luke Moore: No, I think they're being estimated. Okay, right. I think they are. Okay. I think they are. But yeah, so, but again, Switzerland was always the big test for Canada.

43:04Jim Campbell: Yeah. And I think Johan Menzambi is a really exciting talent, isn't he? He's a very, very elegant player. I told you, earlier in the tournament, I said he's basically secured himself a 55 million pound move to Chelsea already with the goals he scored.

43:15Luke Moore: And then where will he get loaned to? Yeah. Strasbourg. Strasbourg. Several listeners watching this game immediately got in touch when they heard a Keystone Cops reference from Ali McCoy, Stone Coldman's.

43:27Jim Campbell: On it goes. Keystone, this has been a sort of a bit of a trope on the ramble for a long time now. If you're not familiar with that, Keystone Cops is an old series of kind of essentially silent movies. Slapstick comedy movies. Slapstick comedy movies set in the town of Bangville. Produced between 1912 and 1917. currently unavailable to view anywhere. Nobody making the reference knows what it is, and yet, on it goes. I love it. 109 years on, it's still being referenced. Even Ali McCoyst's father would have been too young to even have seen it.

44:05Luke Moore: Luke, it stopped being made before the First World War was done. Significantly over 100 years ago, it stopped. But who was... I mean, the thing is with that, who's that for?

44:18Jim Campbell: Nobody had a telly back then. They would have been on in cinemas presumably. Yeah, it's cinema. It's cinema. It's silent movie slapstick comedy. It's like Laura and the Hardy type stuff. It's absolute cinema. But which streaming platform? I'm not at the moment.

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46:46Luke Moore: I want to go back to Canada, though, if I may. Jesse Marsh. A little lay down. Yeah, he's... I don't... He's very performative, however... Yeah, I've got no beef with Canada whatsoever. I'm broadly in favour of them as a nation, as a team, and as a concept. He's American. Let me make the point. Sorry. But Jesse Marsh is making me dislike them.

47:10Jim Campbell: Okay. Yeah, I mean, it must be very frustrating for people who are Canadian. Speaking very broadly, the US and Canada have quite different sort of national characteristics. And Jesse Marsh is very American in that dugout, isn't he? He's very like Hacksaw Jim Duggan, air-punching American in a way that does really sort of contrast with how Canada feels as a nation. Are you saying it works in America, but it doesn't necessarily work in America's hat? Well, it's working so far. It is. It's just maybe the hat is fitting a little uncomfortably. So I don't like the sort of performative stuff. However, I do...

47:51Luke Moore: He's determined to kind of... Well, and he has made history. In the next round for the first time ever. You know, they got their first point. Then they got their first win. And so on and so forth. I do think, though, under him, that he's made them into a proper... There's something about them. Yeah, sure. And so I take all those things, but more than one thing could be true when it comes to Jesse Varsh, evidently. And I think that after the Bosnia game, for example, they were disappointed. They could have been... They could have gone either way. They could have felt that's really disappointing that we didn't win the game or, oh my goodness, we got our first point and get a load of us.

48:28And I think he kept them in between that.

48:31Luke Moore: Said, look, okay, we got the point, fine. but we push on come on we need to do we need to do more and so we didn't get let any fanfare kind of get in the way of that that's how I saw it anyway and against Qatar you know they got their marquee win and that was always going to be enough to go through I just think it's his behaviour on the touchline on this manner yeah no I get that but I also think that he is a serious operator a bit too serious at times and I think that his leadership I think is boding well ultimately for Canada is what my take would be even though you have to put up with some insufferable behaviour I think if you're like Jose Mourinho or your, I mean, we've seen Antonio Conte do it, we've seen Thomas Tuchel even do it.

49:06You're aggressive on the touchline, you're dominating. Arteta does a bit of it as well. It's a kind of alpha type, dominating the space, territory setting out type thing. If you're Jesse Marsh doing that, you just come across as a dickhead. But why is that, do you think, though? I just think he's got an irritating personality. Right. That's how it is.

49:23Luke Moore: I don't know. There's no pushback on that because I would tend to agree with you. But look, Canada, they are through to the next round, of course. Now, listeners... They've got an amazing chance to go even further. Well, they do. listeners on our discord were also debating among other things Canada's choice of music during the hydration breaks it was obviously Journey Don't Stop Believing there were shouts for Celine Dion and Nickelback as alternatives now I'm not a huge fan of that Journey song but I'll take it over those two but Journey are from San Francisco aren't they and the point is they're not Canadian Big Brian yeah Brian Adams I think they should play every time Canada score I think they should play the entirety of everything I do, I do it for you, Brian Adams.

50:05Luke Moore: I'll tell you what, we had to sit through that in the 90s. Yeah, we did. And it was number one for three years. 16 weeks. I'll tell you who'd be in favour of that, all the advertisers. All the broadcasters. Gianni Fantine, even though he denies it. But England have chosen Chase the Sun, haven't they, for their goal song.

50:22Luke Moore: I'd have rather Catch the Sun by the Doves, even though that would have been an incredibly rogue choice. Very niche. Very niche. I think... Or the Jamie Cullen version, Jim. I think the Chase the Suns on the England Chosen is an Italian electronic dance group with a Finnish singer. So we've not gone patriotic either. No.

50:40Jim Campbell: So you've got to bear that in mind. What do you think of the goal music, generally speaking? You can't hold back the tide, can you? Yeah, that is how it feels, absolutely. I do think there are times where it's actually a bit annoying. It's just busy, isn't it? There's always some artificial thing happening somewhere that's meant to enhance the atmosphere or hydrate the players. Jim, all these things.

51:06Luke Moore: There's no kind of breathing space. Jim, how about this for the hydration break for Canada? Next time they go for a hydration break. I'm through with standing in line of clubs I'll never get in. They're the bottom up.

51:17Jim Campbell: No, I don't know what it is.

51:19Luke Moore: Snickle back your dick.

51:21Jim Campbell: Yeah, I'm the dick, right? Jim, Jim. Come on, you know that song. You're a dick for that, G.

51:26Luke Moore: Hey, hey, I need a can of rockstar. Let me get to the chorus. Alright, I'm back on board. I'm back on board. You stopped before the chorus. Well, I looked at his face. He needed an explainer.

51:38Jim Campbell: There we are. I remember when we used to do stuff like this before the show. Get it all out now. It was like Keystone Cops, wasn't it? I don't know. I've never seen it. Keystone Cops. Absolutely was.

51:48Luke Moore: That was unnecessary. That was naughty. I almost went cunt stone cunt there we go yeah that's how strongly I feel about it that's how tough you are Bosnia-Herzegovina beat Qatar 3-1 yes they they they could qualify I would say they are going to qualify damn it all Bosnia-Herzegovina because they are top of the third place purgatory you would really hope that you know by this point

52:19Jim Campbell: if you're topping the third place purgatory you're okay

52:21Luke Moore: they'll be through there'll be four points fine fine fine fine yeah there we go it's an entertaining game this one absolutely I mean again after that not as Ali Obegovic scored one of the goals beautiful again another lovely long ranger lovely long ranger Jim yeah he's tipped as their next young superstar I think he already is their young superstar

52:41Jim Campbell: we cemented it there didn't need a tip

52:43Luke Moore: didn't we don't need any more tips did you like it when the goalkeeper was headbutted in the bollocks when he came to claim a corner it's always pleasing yeah not for the keeper it though. But personally, I mean, not as profound as, say, South Africa, but after the first game against Canada, I don't think you would have probably had them going through. Obviously pumped by Switzerland. I mean, Qatar maybe, I was a bit of a foolish, but they, I mean, that point against Canada, where it's really on another day Canada win that game. That's essentially going to get them through. The thing that made this game good was that Qatar just kept attacking.

53:18They kept trying to score themselves, which of course they did once, but obviously they're going to go home now. But I had that thing which is terrible where I was watching Switzerland and Canada and I was thinking, and the goals kept flying in the Bosnia game. I was like, if I turn over now...

53:31Luke Moore: I know this will stop happening. But we saw the lovely goal for the Canada squad. I thought about turning over at half-time and I think the universe realised that because the second half in the Switzerland-Canada game was really good. So I'm pleased I stayed where I was. Yeah, indeed, yeah. Well, I think, to you what, Bosnia-Herzegovina, their fans have been great as well. So I'm pleased that they're almost certainly going to get another game. Four points, you've got a massive, massive... I think there's very, very little chance they're not going to go through. Luke, I'm calling it. Well, what?

53:55Luke Moore: That they're through. Okay, well, I haven't consulted the boffins. That's the thing I'm worried about. The great thing for them is they're now in a game of guess the city. Where are you going to end up, guys? At the moment, as it stands, it's USA. They're playing USA next year. Oh, is that right? As it stands, yeah.

54:10Jim Campbell: I don't think they should know until they get to the airport. Yeah, okay. Like a surprise stag weekend. Yeah, yeah.

54:16Luke Moore: This could be a one-hour flight or a five-hour flight. Is that what Steve Clark did to Scotland? That's why they're so nervous. You're in Miami playing Brazil. Why don't someone tell us? I don't know why to prepare for this.

54:28Jim Campbell: Mungo here's getting married.

54:29Luke Moore: Yay! Gentlemen, let's turn our attention to tonight's games. Australia face Paraguay where a point for both teams would probably be enough to see them through. Definitely watch that one then. Well, Socceroos defender Jason Garri said they won't play out a truce as he put it, as that's cheating the game in a way, because Jason went on to say. We're not playing out a truce because we're bloody Australian, mate. Yeah, no truce for Bruce. Does the nickname of the Socceroos undermine them a bit?

54:59Jim Campbell: No, it's fitting. I don't care, do they? They don't care about that. No, but I'm just saying it's not that intimidating, is it? It's not. His Cabaroos nickname is the Indomitable Lions. That is quite intimidating.

55:09Luke Moore: Taliban just means students. Does it? Not that intimidating, is it? No, it's not, I suppose. That's a fair point. But they've been quite effective. It's a really good comparison, mate. Well done. Yeah, well done, yeah. I'm just saying that sometimes a name is, you know, not that important. I'm just saying, I just don't think the Socceroos, it makes them out to be footballing kangaroos. It's quite weird. It's quite a weird thing.

55:31Jim Campbell: Which is a terrifying prospect though, if you've ever seen a kangaroo live. And they've got a kangaroo on their badge, haven't they? So it's almost like you feel like if you didn't know any better, you'd be playing this kind of human-kangaroo hybrid.

55:40Luke Moore: I take the point that it sounds like somebody using stereotypical language and has named them that. but actually as Jim says they don't give a shit and they love it because Australia

55:51Jim Campbell: is the world's only informal country yeah so it's fitting and the Australian women's national team are called the Matildas aren't they exactly yeah

55:58Luke Moore: there you go I'm all for it because they are but if they want to change it I respectfully let them do that but yeah it's a big game for them though against Paraguay Australia bearing in mind you know they've not had a huge talent pool over the years they've had some good players and whatnot but yeah They've got through to the knockouts a number of times. You know, you've managed to do it last time. They only edged, well, I said, edged Argentina. We're in control, but they beat, what was it, 2-1? And they presumably want to play, want to stay second, right? Because I think at the moment, the difference is between playing Iran or Germany.

56:31So they probably will want to make sure they get a positive result.

56:34Jim Campbell: Yeah, yeah. You would think. I mean, there's so many permutations. There's always something to play for, right? You might not know what it is. The big game for me tonight to watch is Sweden-Japan.

56:44Luke Moore: Oh, yeah. There's two reasons. one because I think that'll be a really interesting game generally but also because we need if possible to preserve the hashish derby, the aforementioned hashish derby and Netherlands play Tunisia. So you fancy them to win that anyway but if they slip up it could all go wrong or you might not get it. Well Sweden currently second in the third place purgatory. I think if they avoid a heavy defeat lose by the odd goal then I appreciate that's what Scotland was saying they'd probably be okay and possible march into the next round. It's a shame Turkey, USA is because of these rules, Turkey were already out.

57:17It's ideal for USA, though, because they've been so good, they can now probably just rotate a little bit. Turkey would be down their luck. You'd fancy a USA to get a positive result against them, but they need to keep that momentum going.

57:27Luke Moore: I'll tell you what, at 9pm tonight, though, British summertime, Jim, you've got Germany, Ecuador, Curacao, Ivory Coast. Which one? Are you double-screening? No, I don't think it will double-screen,

57:39Jim Campbell: because it just never really works, does it? Unless you're Andy Brasso. Unless you're Andy Brasso, and you've got a whole room full of screens. Well that pervert in that movie where the guy's watching all the women in the hotel room. Is that Michael Douglas? It's not, it's one of the Baldwin's I think. Can't remember. I don't remember the movie. Sliver? Andy Braswell does that but with football. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. We hope it's just with football. It is just with football. Calm down. Exactly. Ecuador, Germany. Probably gonna watch that one. Yeah, thanks for rescuing that Jim. Ecuador have been disappointing in my view.

58:07Jim Campbell: They have. They've not conceded many goals as people expected of them but they simply haven't scored a goal either. You are going to have to do that at some point. If you tip them as a dark horse, it's quite annoying, actually. Yeah, but they need to score goals, Jim. They do. You can't realistically get deep in a tournament about scoring a goal. And now they look like a horse trying to score a goal, which you should have seen coming. Or a kangaroo, like I'm saying. Unless you're Sweden qualified, you can't go on like this.

58:30Luke Moore: No. Yeah. No, no, love. The idea of watching Curacao, a victory against Ivory Coast, as unlikely as it may seem, would take them through, probably, to the next round.

58:39Jim Campbell: I mean, if you are going to second screen a pair of games or one game while you watch another one this is a tasty set of fixtures actually I mean Ivory Coast have got some good players as we've seen and they've been quite entertaining so maybe I will maybe he will

58:53Luke Moore: well you can tell everybody tomorrow whenever you're next on the pod gym because that's it for today thanks for listening to the Football Ramble part of the Acast Creator Network remember to get your tickets for Saturday's England Watch Party where we're going to stuff Panama we're going to stuff a load of goals in the back of their net because the hex is gone. Yeah. There we are. Thank you very much, Luke Moore. Thank you to Nick Hewer for lifting the hex.

59:15Jim Campbell: Thank you, Jim Campbell. Thank you. And to the aliens for not coming down in Brazil v Scotland. Thank you. And thank you, Diama Wachawa.

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