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3:32Luke Moore: I'd like to get to know you. I'd like to take you out, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble! Away wins for Villa and Man City. It's Wednesday 9th of September. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Pete Donaldson. And I'm Luke Moore.

3:56Luke Moore: Hello everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble. It's a wonderful Wednesday here. In the kingdom. And in the kingdom in general. Yeah, the kingdom! Despite the efforts of some nefarious types. Nine o 'clock at Oswald! It's not nine o 'clock, Peter. I'm the town crier. It was nine o 'clock when you spilt your tea bag. I know, yeah. We have just had to pause the show for that. Oh, yeah, we have had to pause the show for that. We have had to pause the show for that because of you. Because of my... I weed on the table with my tea. Marcus, will you describe it as a kingdom of heaven today? No. I mean, that's always the aim, isn't it?

4:26Luke Moore: Always. But I like to remind certain people that utopia can't and doesn't exist. So always temper your expectations. You strive for it. We strive for more. Disagree. Yeah. Where is it then? Because I've been on Discord, and that is well worth the patreon.com forward slash football ramble subscription service. Ah, I see. That's like an online utopia. It's like milk and honey. Yes, that is true. And people talking about football. Nice. What a combination. What on earth could you, what more could you want? Peter, would you like to thank friend of the ramble Richard the Burns for giving us that intro line?

4:55Dick Burns and welcome. Yeah, fine. All good. Richard the Burns, he gave us that intro line. If you want to submit an intro line for the future episodes, then become a friend of The Ramel on our Patreon. You'll get an extended edition of this show. And I'll be talking about my visit to the Oasis premiere with you, Marcus. I look forward to that immensely.

5:12Luke Moore: I look forward to collecting my gift as well. That'll be coming at you every single Wednesday. Click the link in the show notes to sign up now. Pete is not wrong. Pete is not wrong. Is Pete ever wrong? Yeah, regularly wrong. It certainly goes very close to the line. Is it how I think things are going? Because I think I'm never wrong. Yeah, that is true. Well then, Peter, I think that we've given the listeners enough milk and honey. I think it's time to talk about the football. All right. Football Club Porto. Porto, as Andy Brattle would call them. Now. I haven't read that once. Were you there?

5:47You might not have been there. We were in a restaurant once, and Andy had been on the phone talking Portuguese to someone.

5:52Luke Moore: But we were in London. Which is very disrespectful. He was doing it in a quite respectful way. He was slagging us all off. By the way, isn't Andy on the show tomorrow? he is Andy's back tomorrow how exciting so he can front this up yeah he can so I think we were in Brixton at a restaurant and he had been on the phone to someone in Portuguese and then he came back in put the phone down didn't say anything and the waiter came over and said would you like anything else and he just went now because he was saying no in a Portuguese accent still and it was funny yeah I thought he was I thought he was saying it does a bit yeah would you like anything yes now now could have been late again he is that rude he is that rude but Manchester Manchester City ran off with all the points.

6:31Luke Moore: They beat Porto 2-0 at the Dragon Stadium. Off to a winning start. Porto's first home defeat in 2026. No mean feat winning there, Pete Donaldson. Good performance from Manchester City. It was. It was. Sorry, I thought I'd been speaking Portuguese again. Yeah, Porto worked really, really hard. Defended well, but the qualities just sort of won out in the end. Fernandes just slotting in, isn't he? Do you know what? In his post-match interview, which was in Spanish, and then the excellent interviewer from TNT Sports, he did the translation, which, let's be honest, for English people, is hugely impressive for somebody to have more than one language in their head.

7:14Luke Moore: I thought, and bearing in mind, it wasn't in English, but Enzo Fernandes, the figure he cut when he was talking, I thought, he's coming across slightly likeable there. And I was a bit conflicted. Did you ever see that Jonathan Wilson, I think it was, interviewed Enzo Fernandez and Julian Alvarez's school teacher? They went to the same school. Right, right. And Wilson doing Wilson. Jonathan loves it, doesn't he? Yeah, doing Wilson. I don't know why. I don't know what the angle was, but it might have been... Looks like I have to go to deep, dark Argentina again. Yeah, it might have been a follow-up to the Angels with Dirty Faces book he wrote or something.

7:46And he interviewed the school teacher, and she was very... Little shit. No, she was very, very complimentary about Julian Alvarez. She said, oh, I was always, we had high hopes for him. Please see him do so well. If he wasn't a footballer, I think he could have been a lawyer, a doctor, an accountant, whatever, something like that. And then, at the end of the day, she went, I'm not really sure what else he could have done, but I remember he liked hitting things. That is an actual quote from the school teacher. Football's in the back of the net. Exactly. It's worked for him. He's playing at the very top.

8:18So you're now saying not two or three months beyond since he did what he did against England. and the way he behaved, you now think he's likeable.

8:26Luke Moore: Well, no, I said that in the interview you came across sort of quite likeable. You've been bought out by the Champions League. Are you in the pocket of big man city? Yeah, I think I am. Are you looking to get their charges reduced? The amount of charges? Could you be a liar? I just brush it all under the carpet. They have done it. It was ages ago. They have done it. That's the problem. That's happened. Brush it out from the carpet into the light. What do we make of... So I said on Monday's show, I think it was, or maybe it might have been yesterday on the mailbag, that City haven't really been tested yet, right?

8:56Luke Moore: Oh, yeah. And I said the game against Porto will be interesting because Porto, obviously, used to winning games, very, very good at home. It's a much bigger test, different type of challenge. And they came through it. They came through it well, so good on them. What did you make of Donnarumma's performance, though? I thought he was shaky again. Yeah. And I also have deep, deep concerns about his hairline for a man of that age. So then you can't still keep it yet. Yeah, no, no. It's funny with Donnarumma because if you think about what he's achieved in his career and how it feels like he's been around for a long time, he's 27.

9:30Luke Moore: Yeah. He started so young. Yeah, and he was such a monster in goal, and he still can be. But I think, I don't know what you mean when you say he's looking a bit shaky. You know when a goalkeeper gets into their 30s and maybe they're about 33, 34, with a lot of goalkeepers, or certainly some goalkeepers, their power's just ever just slightly waned. He's a big goalkeeper. Like the head's not necessarily completed to their foot anymore. Maybe. There's just a tiny little drop of focus or whatever. And I feel that maybe there's a little bit of that with Donnarumma. And I thought, oh, yeah, but he still is only 27.

10:06Luke Moore: He still can make the great saves. We know that. You know, he's a great shot stopper for crying. Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We expect that from Donnarumma. But I know what you mean in terms of his presence, in terms of his all-encompassing, you know, aura and, you know, the body. Still very much there. Yeah, but it's not as all-encompassing as it was. And I don't think he's this scary prospect that an attacker would have faced a couple of years ago. I don't know whether it's since going to Man City, because even though he is a goalkeeper, it's still... He signed last season, and this is the Champions League, but maybe he's taking a little while to adapt to the surrounding at Man City a little bit.

10:45Luke Moore: There was a new manager coming in, maybe asking him to do different things. You don't know what's going on there. It's a small sample size, though, I suppose, isn't it? Yeah, I suppose so. I mean, he played for PSG for long enough. Not massive, there's not been massive ricks in his first few games, has it? No, but I... It's a bit like uneasy, I think. Yeah. If this was a 23-year-old goalkeeper, you're like, oh, get him out, but... Yeah, I think that's it. I think maybe I'm making too much of the age that he is, and, you know, maybe in the coming months we'll see him get sort of back to his indomitable self.

11:17Luke Moore: But I don't know. I mean, you thought he was shaky, Luke. Do you think that's fair, what I've just said there? Yeah, maybe. I mean, I think goalkeepers are under a lot of scrutiny all the time and the way in which he signed was interesting. Obviously, they brought Trafford back and then they just got to the room, I guess, because they could get him. But he was kind of... But PSC didn't want him. Yeah. So maybe there's a little knock of confidence there because, again, you're such a high-profile player. So the world's media, it's like, oh, the best team in Europe. Yes, you won the Champions League and have done great things with them, but they don't want you now.

11:46I don't think it's been a vintage week for goalkeepers. because I don't think it was a good weekend for goalkeepers in the Premier League. I don't think it was a good night for goalkeepers last night in various different Champions League games.

11:57Luke Moore: But ultimately, Donnarumma has kept a clean sheet and he made some saves. So when we're saying it's shaky, maybe we're overanalyzing this a little bit. What credit City is the fact they go away from home, like I say, against a team who are used to winning at home with basically a really an all-new base of the midfield because Fernandes and Boadi both played and obviously Anderson came on they're all brand new players and they still get the job done Harlan got a lot of chances took him a while to take one but he did take one and then off they go they march on and I wonder if this is the start of that thing we tend to see in the early rounds of the Champions League where English teams just kind of stampede their way through I mean we'll see with the games tonight as well I suppose don't want to peak too early though we've seen that from English teams yeah I guess I guess Arsenal got to the final last time around and didn't win it didn't win it to the point massively stands so up yours everybody but look i think with manchester city they would have maybe been slightly disappointed that they didn't go in at the break more than the one goal up but but as you say when all said and done but porter had chances as well didn't they yeah they did i i never i i always fancied man city throughout the game you know there were times when they were under the kosh a little bit and again with you know porto are a decent side.

13:14Luke Moore: And Haaland sort of said that Porto worked really hard. You mentioned it is the first sort of proper test. Going away to Porto is usually a tricky tie, especially with their very impressive home record anyway. So I think ultimately it goes down as a bit of a professional job. It wasn't as airtight as maybe they would have liked, but cry not, 2-0 on the road and they're done. And with that new midfield, but particularly the young lad, Bouadi, who looks a proper player. You can see why. it was no surprise that they were going to spend that amount of money even if you'd just seen him at the World Cup everyone wanted him you saw how composed he is at the age of 18 how much of a contribution do you think he can make this season to City's season though at the age he's at well we were wondering this the other day he's not starting the Premier League game yet has he?

14:00Luke Moore: no he's come on in a couple and isn't that funny how Ender Mareska put him in in this game maybe it's because it's not the cut and thrust of the Premier League because he has played in the Champions League He played quite notably for Lille against, was it Real Madrid, where he was particularly good last season or whenever it was. And so obviously Maresca thought quite, you know, understandably slash oddly against Porto away from home. This is the fixture you're going to start, not Bournemouth at home. He did sort of tire a little bit by the end of the game. But I mean, that's just, again, he's still growing.

14:34Luke Moore: I think there's a lot of growing pains in the shins. He might well do, I think a lot of Man City fans will look at that and think, well, we were worried about Rodri not being there. This guy's clearly, the amount of money they've paid for him and how much they wanted him, he is seen as a replacement in that midfield. And if they can get him playing, which the signs are that they will, because he just looks like he's the type of player who's going to slot in anywhere and be imperious, then my goodness, you know, this could really be something. And that midfield, as you said there, Luke, has been completely reconstructed.

15:06Luke Moore: You get him in Enzo Fernandes, Elliot Anderson, an enormous amount of money spent on those three players but sometimes you get what you pay for I think it bodes pretty well for Porto and I think I think Buad is yeah they should be well they don't bode for their any opposition and I think I think Man City fans will be very excited to see him in the league and see how he can adapt to the Premier League because again he's only 18 so you know expectations have to be tempered a little bit just in case he does have a little bit of a slow start to the Premier League but my goodness he's away and Erling Haaland despite him saying that he should have scored one or two more still got a couple he should have had four he should have but it shows you again with Haaland the space he can create how I mean there was a chance I think it was the first first header he had a goal where the keeper sort of pushes it over the bar and Foden is played down the wing and he crosses it and again the size of the guy the way he can kind of sniff those chances out most strikers in the world aren't getting the connection he's there He's that sharpness and we'll grow and that'll be a goal next time around.

16:12You know, his movement in anticipation is amazing

16:14Luke Moore: You saw it in the World Cup in that goalie that header he scored against Brazil. That's right against Gabriela He made Gabriel look like me. It was dinner money It was amazing. So yeah, I Marescu was happy after the game so he should be and Yeah, Man City just going about the business and winning games Before the game, Enzo Mareska said that Erling Haaland is now the complete person, both on and off the pitch Well, the complete person already? Yeah I'm not sure about that That's not even a complete person I mean, usually you say a complete player He's 26 No one's a complete person at 26 Well, Mareska said, Peter, in terms of, you know, person and player He said he's a man now, he's a dad When I arrived here, he was not a dad Now life has changed A family man, still scoring goals I'm very happy for him It's mad, isn't it?

17:01Most footballers do have their first child at least by the age of 27. They have to mature very quickly. I guess they probably feel, I've got the resources. I'm not worried about having to afford. Yeah, and the support, probably.

17:13Luke Moore: It's funny, isn't it? There are exceptions to this, but generally speaking, a footballer's life is essentially dull. If you think about the schedule... Some of them spice it up a bit. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. There are exceptions. And they're the ones that stand out and the ones we all know about. But generally speaking, what I don't think is taken into account with football fans is if you're a football player, of course it's an amazing life and you get paid very well and you get the adulation if you're good of a load of fans. But you're not on your own schedule for the next however many years of your life.

17:42You're like the Marines. Yeah, you can't say. It's very difficult to take holidays, for example. You can't really go out and do much. And if you do go and do much and you're a big famous player, it's going to be tricky for lots of different reasons. So a lot of them do have kids early because you might as well.

17:58Luke Moore: Yeah, I mean, I remember a blast from the past, you know, seeing like Beckham, remember him holding his first child going through the airport? 23, 24. Yeah. You know, but anyway, he's a man now, because he's a dad, and that's how it works, Pete Donaldson. Harland has revealed that he has spent£67 ,000 on a, quote, sick caravan. That's not that much. Let me translate a good caravan. Oh, okay. Just in case you thought he was like... I thought that. I thought it would be when he gets sick, he goes in it. Yeah, you go in there. It's like a little mini hospital. Like Justin Rose's motor home. Very charitable.

18:33Luke Moore: When asked where he plans to go in the caravan, he said, I'll just go and drive somewhere and sleep in it. You've got a kid now. You can't just do that. Trust me. You can't be doing that for quite a while. We all know you can't just do that. Your wife will not be very happy with you. This can't just be a cat. This must be... What do you call those... The Winnebago? That sort of thing, yeah. It's got to be 67 grand, because you can spend a lot of money on those. Oh, you can't. You spend like half a million. They've got little cars inside the belly of them. That's why this is a weird story, because he's a top footballer and he's so much money.

19:01Luke Moore: Well, maybe it is a caravan. Maybe it is just a humble caravan. Well, he's only got one kid, I suppose. You wouldn't get Carl Walker's brood in there, would you? Yeah. Well, you listen to little beds and cupboards and stuff like that. That's ideal for a man with lots of kids. That's another one in here. But I googled this this morning and I basically tried to find out how much you could... the cheapest you could get a luxury motorhome and the cheapest you could get one for for it to be in the luxury mould is£350 ,000. So£67 ,000, it sounds like it would be crap. No, but it's a caravan though and I think that we're being too harsh on the man.

19:36Luke Moore: I found one for$3 million and it looked amazing. Imagine the insurance, football insurance, pulling that with a Maserati. I think£67 ,000 on a caravan should be sufficient for it to be very good. Really? Call me old-fashioned. You could buy a new cut-down shitty caravan for 20 grand. I've looked into it. Of course you have. Like a bad one. Yeah, I'll bet you have. Like very, very thin. You drive it into central London, straight into the Euless zone. Park it. Have you seen what it looks like, by the way? It looks like... So you guys familiar with those lads who hang out outside Area 51 looking for aliens in those silver-domed caravan?

20:16Right, yeah. It looks like one of those. It's a sort that you'd cook meth in. Yeah, basically. Exactly that. Exactly that. Yeah. There's nothing to suggest that that's what Erling Haaland's doing. He's certainly performing very well.

20:27Luke Moore: Yeah, there'll be a drop-off at some point. He's definitely the Jesse Pinkman. Pep's Walter White. It's just content. He's a content monster, isn't he? He's just going to be, you know, he's going to be filming his little... Oh, that'll be paid for in two videos. But do you not think, though, with Haaland, there is a down-to-earthness. which is very, very light. And normality, which seems abnormal. Yeah. It's branded up with Supreme for some reason. Presumably they gave him the money. Gave him the caravan, effectively. Maybe. I think it's a freebie. We'll give you the caravan for 67 grand. He's buying something, Peter.

21:02Luke Moore: Do you know what? You should come down to my local Sainsbury's. They give you loads of stuff. All you've got to do, take a little bit of plastic out your pocket. It's amazing what you can get. All right. Well, well done, Manchester City. Any more on them? Will we be pleased to... I want to hear what you guys think about Gianluigi Donnarumma's egg in a nest. Yeah? Is that what he's done? He's 27 years old. He's got an egg in a nest. That's all right. I'd like to see more bald footballers. I think it's a disgrace. But he's not bald, is he? That's the point. Right. Hang on. How is it a disgrace? How is it a disgrace?

21:33Because they all just get their hair plugs, don't they? And then go mad and eat steak on a plane. I think there's a lot of people out there who've disappointed you that have been to Turkey for some reason. I know. You'd think I'd be an absolute... I've had my armpits lasered, but I shall not touch this widow's peak that was in London wasn't it that was in London how much did you pay for the old armpit laser I don't know four grand two grand I think and it's all grown back two grand per armpit or two grand all in this is a chat for Rambo Lunkap I've let myself go I don't care this is for Rambo Lunkap

21:59Luke Moore: I'm sweating on it have you ever been to Istanbul yes I have oh you have oh amazing because I'd assumed if you went there you'd never come back he's seven feet tall yeah give me the number alright Right, coming up after this, Jose Mourinho wins again at the Bernabeu.

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26:07Luke Moore: Welcome back to the Football Hour, everybody. John McGinn and I assume Ollie Watkins there. Warms my cockles, that. Yeah. Now, a quick announcement, everybody, before we cocoa butter ourselves up. Nice. The three of us, Luke Moore, Pete Donaldson, and me, Marcus C. Speller. We'll be back for the preview show on Friday, and we'll be once again live streaming the whole thing on our YouTube channel. Uh-oh. That's right. Willies and all on the Football Ramble this preview show on this Friday. So search Football Ramble on YouTube. Hit subscribe and we'll see you in the live chat. And you've got the Richard Keys head next door so you can put that on maybe.

26:43Yeah, I guess so. We've talked about that. Do the Richard Keys head. You can do the Richard Keys head. I think I will have to adjust my stuff accordingly. Right, okay, yeah. You can have to adjust your microphone and adjust the size of your head Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Could you put the headphones inside it or just put the headphones on? Oh, I guess so. I guess you're good, yeah. That would be good. But we're going live.

27:02Luke Moore: We're going live, yeah. 9.30, 9.30 on Friday. Come join us. Come dine with us. Come fly with us. Come and get mucky with us. Come cry with us. Yeah, there you go. Right, off to Belgium. Club Brugge 2, Aston Villa 3. Villa got their first competitive win of the season. They did. There we go. And scored their first goals, by the way. By the way. Yeah. Johnny McGinn got the first one. McGinn is forever. McGinn is endless and timeless. He will always be here with us. His ass is. Dry as hell. Cracked and dry. He doesn't own a donkey as far as I'm aware. His Derek. Will someone grease up that man's Derek?

27:41Luke Moore: Good for Villa though, Peter. It was. It's kind of not had a good start to the season. It's sort of in the middle of the doom and gloom from the press, I think. And in my opinion, a little bit of kind of... The result. It's a rebuild. Guys, it's a rebuild. Caught from the fans. McGinn himself said it's a new Aston Villa. It is, yeah. But it was just lovely to see the fans enjoy a night in the Champions League. You're like, oh, yeah, we're in the Champions League, aren't we? This is great. So a chance to just see some new signings during a win. Gomez was good. He worked so hard and he will hopefully keep Barkley out of the side.

28:13Have you seen Ross Barkley recently? Yeah, I like it. He's terrible. Oh, come on. He's awful. He's got England caps. He's got England caps. Which means he gets away with anything. It's like a little cap you put on top of a mouth officer. It protects you from any criticism. It protects you from Marx's criticism. Marx's criticism.

28:31Luke Moore: No, I won't say that. I didn't think it was a great night for Jan Sommer, sadly. Well, I was about to say, I know the man that you love the most was playing in goal for Club Brugge. And yeah, he did a great evening, it's fair to say. That goal where he came herring out and Nicholas Jackson was a bit like, yeah, I could do with getting my first goal from Villa. Nicholas Jackson was like, this is just what I exactly... He could not believe his life. Do you get the thing that, like, I also think with Jackson, I think it's kind of like a nearly, one of those nearly strikers who don't really sort of cut the mustard at the top level.

29:00Then you're like... 65 million. Yeah, that's what 65 million gets you. But then you look at his figures and you're like, you know what? He probably has to... He might get there. I don't know. I know what you mean.

29:10Luke Moore: I think there's a player in there. I think for Jackson, I think, you know, when he was playing at Chelsea, there were moments, but that was kind of that team. You know, that's been Chelsea for the last few years. and that's why this season the way they started despite the loss against Arsenal it's quite exciting for them and I think Jackson you've obviously got a bit of pace there is an eye for goal there but it's not quite there The story of his career is interesting because he has a good season at Villarreal and then gets a move and then he's at Chelsea and Chelsea's model is Chelsea's model so all of a sudden before you know it you're at surplus you're never going to be the first choice striker at Bayern Munich despite the fact he did score some decent goals I mean he was back up clearly obviously yeah he's back up to Harry Kane and now he's Astrid Vidal it's one of those strange things about modern football that despite the fact that he would be what in his mid to late 20s now we still I still I still don't feel like we've seen enough of him yeah and so it'd be interesting to see given that Ollie Watkins has now moved on what Emery can get out of him but he was he was almost apologetic in the goal that he scored because Jan Sommer just made it so easy for him but I also thought Jan Sommer should have saved the first goal I thought the angle it comes from It's right in the corner, I get that, but it comes from a long way and it's not hit with that much pace.

30:23Luke Moore: Yeah, I mean, it's obviously misjudged. I never get that when goalkeepers, they go to one side and they're not that far from it. It's like, you know what to do, stick your arms out. It was right in the corner, but I just thought this game, it was a really good game to watch. I mean, I watched it and enjoyed it. It was also a little bit frustrating because the first half was so good. Well, that often is the case. Yeah, and the second half is like people just take their foot off the gas. Yeah, I mean, you know, there were three run up Villa and it was a case of just kind of, you know, making sure they get over the line.

30:52Speaking of goalkeepers, as we did in the last roundup of the Man City match, I thought you were saying that this week's not been great for keepers. I think Suzuki's had a couple of really, really good matches. If he can keep like a big botch out of his game, his delivery is just absolutely different. He's brilliant with delivery. He's got a delicious delivery. But it could always be like, well, we've got a new, you know, ballplay sweeper.

31:14Luke Moore: Some of the passes you see, I mean, there's been some clips going around, but if you've watched the matches, you'll have seen as well. The way he's like threading passes from goal. He can throw as well. Well, at some point, I was a bit like, this is quite a high risk. Surely people will be aware of this. Right, let's start closing him down a bit. But you are right to talk about the distribution. He made some good saves against Hull as well, by the way. Yeah, he did. But I agree with you, Peter. I think if, you know, again, there's an adjustment period and so on, but there's a proper keeper there.

31:40Luke Moore: I mean, there's a reason why he came in. I mean, Amy Martinez had been angling for a move for about three years. so you know at some point they thought well we probably should have a contingency plan I tell you who impressed George Hemmings yeah he was good 19 year old he was there as well he should have scored actually probably should have scored a goal yeah he did have a chance but I think for Villa it was all about a positive result and get some goals and that's what they've done because I know Club Brugger they're not going to be the best team that Villa face in the Champions League this season but it's an away game they've not been scoring they've not been having a good time of it if you win away in the Champions League it's always a good result totally always a good result I know that There's differing performances and blah, blah, blah.

32:16Luke Moore: But I think this was just the tonic, really. And you're going to be distracted because you're in one of the most beautiful cities in Europe and you want to get out there and get on a little boat trip and go and see the clock tower and all the rest of it. Well, they were late for kick-off. They were just like, do we have to play? I want a flight of beers. Right on the little canal, please. John McGinn's saying, I want some chips. Yeah. I want some Belgium chips. Some mayonnaise, exactly. Absolutely. Some French chips. They've definitely got some win-all matches in the next couple as well. They do.

32:42You've got Forest, Coventry. The good doctor, I suppose. You can't say French chips. Not in Belgium. They'd be raging out here. I'm not saying it in Belgium. I'm saying it here. Frikes, they're known for it.

32:53Luke Moore: I'm saying it here. Well, they're called French fries, aren't they? Yeah, it's not the same thing. It was a hilarious gag on that. I don't think it was that hilarious. I think the great thing is, is while we're talking now, all the listeners won't have actually heard that chat because they'll still be laughing. It's true. That's the saving grace. So here we go. They're about to pick themselves up off the floor. Have you seen that Unai Emery has been nominated for Men's Coach of the Year at the Ballon d 'Or ceremony? I like it yeah it's good I mean they've won the Europa League obviously done a brilliant job do you think that you know in the Oscars when you think like it's somebody I don't know like DiCaprio or whoever it's like really good performance after really good performance big film after big film you know achievement after achievement at some point and with Unai Emery it's kind of like he has won the Europa League again we really need to mark this do something about that yeah exactly name it after him just name the trophy after him oh well the city of well retire the trophy football club of Sevilla should really...

33:44I think that he should be named the Emery Trophy. Yeah. For him.

33:47Luke Moore: At least have his face on it. Yeah. With the bottom when you look into it. You know, that's the bit at the top that sort of... The bouffant. They redo the trophy. It's a bit like the World Cup looks like a big baldy head. Yeah. You know, like just Emery's head. There's a big bouffant. Yeah. It's a cover in agile. And you have to give him a kiss when you win the trophy. Right, okay. This is getting... What do you think? Just taking a lovely turn. Yeah. No words of beefy boffin. What are you thinking? Let's not do a beefy boffin trophy. No. Stephen Ayam and Erling Haaland taking his caravan to wherever the Ballon d 'Or is getting handed out.

34:18I'd love that. I don't know how Vinnie Company has got in there. Why is that? Very generous. Well, I mean, he's knocked everyone over in the Bundesliga again. Well done, Vinnie. It could have gone wrong. Yeah, but he was a shame-wise number four.

34:30Luke Moore: He was involved in that great game between Bayern Munich and PSG. Yeah, there's certain managers and clubs that to have a successful season need to do more than just win the league. And I would say Bayern Munich are one of them. Oh, would you? It's a word. All right, fair enough. It's hard, isn't it? It's quite simply very hard. It's always hard. It's hard for Barmute to win the Bundesliga. No, it's quite simply very hard to win the Champions League. Well, I think you've got a point, Luke, because he's made the shortlist along with Luis De La Fuente, who, of course, along with, obviously a couple of years ago, but along with the Euros, he's won Euros and World Cup, done the double there.

35:01Luke Moore: Nations League next summer, Luis, for the complete hat-trick. And Luis Enrique. Yeah. Who'd you expect to be in there? Yeah. So. There we go. I mean, he's the standout one. and you think, what's he doing in there? What is he doing in there? What's he doing? Why are they building in there? Next year, could it be Isla? Could it be Arba Lala on last night's performance? Potentially not. Yes. Could it be Jose Mourinho, Peter? Could it be Jose Mourinho? He started life at Real Madrid very well. They beat Inter 2-1 last night. Jose's old club, of course. He won his first Champions League game at Real Madrid since 2013.

35:33Luke Moore: That does suggest that they've had a mare. He's quite simply not been there to do that. He has started. Are we seeing... Is this Mourinho with a proper second chance here? And is he cutting a different... Is he approaching this? Or at some point, are we going to see vintage Mourinho? Because if you think about him getting this job at Real Madrid, right, it was pretty much from left field, let's be honest. And we thought, you know, when he took over at Benfica, you thought, yeah, that's maybe the biggest job he can get right now. Maybe there's a Premier League club who might still fancy... We were talking about international football, weren't we?

36:10International football, all that kind of stuff.

36:12Luke Moore: When they, you know, Real Madrid go back for Jose Mourinho, we were just like, oh, this is going to be great. So far, they've been pretty steady and they've been decent. They've been just going about it and winning games. With one of the most gifted squads in Europe. Well, fine, indeed. But, you know, last season, you know, there was a reason why, you know, there was a bit of managerial upheaval or whatever, because it wasn't clicking. You know, Alonso had a go and Arboloha had a go, all the West London managers. at Mourinho is just the latest one. So, I do find it quite intriguing. I think he's also, what's also interesting is the aspect of it where if he was circling the drain, he would, even if he'd want to admit it to himself, he would know that, right?

36:54Of course. I'm on a downward spiral, this is the age I am now, this is the profile of club I'm getting. Yes. And he would have thought, I'm never going to get this again. He's gone. But now he's got it back, it might be a whole new motivating factor for him to refocus him. Especially given that when he was at Real before he never got beyond the semi-final in the Champions League. That's right. And that is, that's probably going to stick in the crawl because you obviously won a league title against that great Guardiola's Barcelona side, which is an amazing thing. And that rivalry was, you know, was legitimate for all sorts of reasons, but they never lifted the big one, which is how Real Madrid would judge themselves.

37:25So it could be that all these things come together and motivate him to go on if he still has the ability to do it. If you think about it, 2013 was when what he last managed there he's not he's not going to have had any none of the players are going to have been around then really you know broadly speaking so the whole new generation of players effectively that he's having to deal with and get responses out of but as Pete's alluded to they've got the players and they've got the resources to compete and they always have so I mean last night it was an interesting game because you know I feel Inder should have won that one

37:57Luke Moore: I mean they gifted them two goals well on one hand I agree with that But on the other hand, Real Madrid, I mean, Bellingham is too massive. Yeah, I don't think Inter maybe should have won. Inter were in control. They were very wasteful. They should have won the game. They were in control. They were in control. They were wasteful. And they let two goals. It was a stupid mistake. I think the two goals coming so early on in the game, I think there's too much chaos theory there to suggest who should have won it. Trent was getting a run around in midfield. I don't know what he's doing up there. A very advanced position for a player who just seems very disinterested with doing any kind of tackling.

38:28He got hooked off. and I wonder how long that's going to last with someone like Mourinho, so combustible.

38:32Luke Moore: Well, Mourinho, again, so Mourinho, his comments about Alexander-Arnold were interested in the game, he said, he basically said he's not a central midfielder. You picked him in central midfielder. That's why I put him there. Perhaps I haven't assessed it, because he got a few injuries in that position. But, yeah, he said he's not really a central midfielder, but he left everything out on the pitch, and he was quick to kind of... He's passive, he's passive as hell. I completely disagree. Well, disagree with him. Again, I think with Mourinho, again that's a little bit different sometimes to what he's like he was quick to sort of say but you know he gave it his all and blah blah blah blah and I do wonder though because he'll be competing Alexander-Arnold with Denzel Dumfries who started that game and he was competing with Danny Carvajal last season Carvajal, is he still a free agent?

39:18Luke Moore: Has anyone picked him up? Everton, he's still there if he hasn't been picked up already so Alexander-Arnold will be in competition as you'd expect at Real Madrid but Mourinho did talk about how Trent gives him another option which he does you know I mean he is he can be such a weapon for a manager just knowing Mourinho as we do he's not a Mourinho type player is he? Let's be honest No, Dumfries was signed to cover for to make up for his defensive deficiency so I just can't see a space from there But even I mean Dumfries is a very attacking fullback I mean you would say maybe even better off as a wingback Yeah, he's better in defence than Trent, isn't he?

39:54Luke Moore: Probably I think both have been played I think in a pre-season friendly and that so not sure how much football Trent's going to get this season I hope it's a lot because I think you know I love seeing him play despite you know what some people may say his fellow or former Liverpool teammate Curtis Jones was playing for the other team he was yeah that was a lovely surprise a torrent yeah we saw John Stones come on as well but yeah Jones the first goal he does give a bad pass to his team mate doesn't he there's a great bit of commentary from I think it was Steve McManaman who put it all on Bissek it was Bissek but Bissek he says something because Bissek obviously goes to pass gets his studs caught on the turf and expects he's worried about Mbappe as well expects a challenge from Mbappe and then fucks it up and McManaman I think it was said it looks like Bissek thinks Kylian Mbappe is going to tackle him Kylian Mbappe never tackles anyone I worry about it but it was yeah Jones kind of gave him a little bit of a hospital pass there yeah he did yeah he did of course it was a catalogue of errors and obviously the goalkeeper was fault for the other goal as well oh the other goal which is madness but Bellingham the two missed chances that Bellingham had were unbelievable misses.

40:58Luke Moore: Do you know, I think the first one the keeper does where he smothers him, what else would you think Bellingham, if you look at the replays and stuff? I think Bellingham quite casually and in the style of a man who thinks he's already scores, side foots it when he should absolutely smash it and give the keeper no chance at all. And the second one, he makes the keeper look good again. I mean, could he not head it in? I mean, obviously... The second one, he can head it in for sure. I mean, he's under the ball, so obviously he thinks maybe... I just thought it was quite lackadaisical. But it was, yeah, maybe.

41:27Some people would say Marcus, sorry to interrupt, but some people would say, I wouldn't say this because I think it would be unfair. Why are you quoting these people? Well, just given the full gamut of opinions. Suggest that you may be aligned with them somehow. No, I wouldn't say this because I don't think it would be fair, but some people may suggest that the arrogance of Bellingham means that he thinks twice that he's already scored when he hasn't and he doesn't get the job done.

41:46Luke Moore: But you disagree with that? I think it would be on the harsh end of the spectrum. But it's a spectrum he'll introduce to the conversation. Yeah, you've thrown that on the table. I'm not drilling my flag into that territory, but I can see it from where I am. Debate me. I think that is a bit harsh. Is there any sympathy for that opinion? No, not really. Okay, fine. Because Bellingham, I think, Bellingham started the season well. In fact, Marina, we've been talking about Bellingham. He's a fantastic player, no doubt about that. Yeah, and he's outside, and he's wanting to get in. I doubt that. I doubt that a lot.

42:17Luke Moore: He got here quick, didn't he? Yeah. It's good for him. Hey, the air traffic control systems are working. Yeah. for those keeping up with the news. Bellingham, Mourinho spoke about Bellingham and said that he wants him close to the goal. And he said, like, basically, get right up there. You know, we don't want you to do the defensive work. Oh, he was close to the goal. Don't worry, we've got Trent to do the defensive work. And again, with the way Mourinho's been talking about Bellingham, you know, and the way Bellingham has started the season, I think that, I think he may well flourish under Mourinho for a bit.

42:45Luke Moore: Because I can't see this going, I can't see it being this harmonious. That'll be the real litmus test of whether Mourinho has been able to adjust and adapt and change at the age of you. because the stuff that he would do calling out players, which he's kind of done his whole career, is easier to do when you're A, right at the top of the tree like he was for a while, or B, at a club that's smaller than you. So the reason that Mourinho couldn't really flourish properly at Man United or certainly at Real Madrid is because they're the clubs that are so big that he couldn't bend them to him. He had to bend to them and he wasn't able to do it.

43:17All the other clubs he's worked at, he could bend to him. And I think that was one of the things that underpinned his time at Real Madrid before, even though he did have some success there. So if he is showing that he can be more malleable in his older age, in his dotage, then that might be helpful. But other than that, he's going to get explosive at some point because it always does. And when you're at Real Madrid, that is obviously much more notable.

43:39Luke Moore: Could be. There could be, though, a situation where Perez has given him such an olive branch here for his career that any time this is about to pop off, Perez and him go for a cigar and it all calms down. and he remembers where he is and what he's been given. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. But that would suggest that Perez is quite a calm and stable figure. You sign the jersey, you get the bullshit that comes along with it, I suppose. But we have to give credit where credit's due. It was only 2-1, but it's still a victory. Kukaria is a very good signing. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's quality. He's absolutely quality.

44:10Luke Moore: For the money as well. I thought he would go for more. Was it 51 million, I think, he went for? Just a great value in playing with 51 million or whatever. Yeah. You mentioned earlier about when his inter-side beat Barcelona in that tumultuous semi-final and all the nonsense that happened during it and ensued. Well, before the game, an Italian journalist gave Jose Mourinho a garden sprinkler. I saw it, yeah. And the sprinkler had a blue bow on it as well, obviously a reference to when his inter-side beat Barcelona in that semi-final. Mourinho seemed like he quite liked it. Of course he did. because it's the I think the greatest the greatest victory in his career I know he won the final and that's where you get the trophy but when they overcame that Barcelona team especially down to 10 men we all remember it it was great amazing game over there they lost on the night 1-0 but it was enough and when they celebrated on the pitch after for those who forgot Barcelona turned the sprinklers on I think it's a lovely nod is the if a while he's Real Madrid manager again as well here's the sprinkler we've seen so many little gifts and little sort of cakes and little sing songs in the presses perpetrated by British journalists.

45:17Yeah, we have. And we always slay at them. Is this just not performative? There's a point. So if Gary Cottrell does that, are you happy with it?

45:23Luke Moore: Is what Pete's asking. But Gary Cottrell hasn't done that. No, it's true. He hasn't thought of it. He'd do a worse version of it. If Gary Cottrell also scored two goals in Porto last night, yes, I would give him credit for that. He hasn't done that. Right, okay. Interesting. Okay. Interesting. It's quite performative, isn't it? It's not the sort of thing that we like. There is a point to that, Marcus. I mean, what Pete's saying is the old classic. if a British journalist does it, we're taking the piss out of them so it's cringe because they're being sycophantic. Yeah. If Andy Brassel did that, speaking Portuguese, would you get away with it?

45:52I think I'd have to like it. His hand's covered in pastel donata. Andy Brassel's more of a hangout in the mix zone for four hours after the game kind of guy. Yeah, he's not... He's blood and guts. He does it for the... I'm not the glory, yeah. Doesn't have the guts. He said blood and guts. I said he wants to be down with the people who are actually doing the football. Oh, absolutely. Sweaty.

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48:21Luke Moore: Of course, the Champions League wasn't the only cup that was played last night because the Carabao Cup returned Pete Donaldson. It did, yes. Newcastle escaped the den. Escaped, yeah. With a hard-earned 1-0 win. It was looking a little bit wobbly, but they got there in the end. Quite a physical game. Quite a physical game, wasn't it? Quite a physical game against Millwall. That's right. But Millwall have played some good staff. They had a really good season last season. They've actually started the season really well again. They have. I don't think it's fair to use that cliche out there, oh, they're just a bunch of merchants who just kick people up in the air.

48:49I didn't say that, but against the Premier League side

48:51Luke Moore: going to a traditionally tough place to go. We don't have physical scars leaving. Newcastle don't have physical scars on their faces leaving the den. True enough. But yeah, no, they have started the season pretty well, Millwall, but Newcastle United are into the next round of the cup. It's weird sort of with these early round cup competitions. You're like, you don't fear them as much as you used to under previous managers before Eddie Howe. So, absolutely a transformer, isn't he? Eddie Howe, in many ways. What did you make of... He won the damn thing. I'll tell you what, Tino Liveramento was lucky to get away with one.

49:22Did you see that? Yeah. Ball over the top, meat and drink it should be. Got himself in a right old mess. And Mill will hit the post. I think I said yes. I think I said yes. I think I said last season. and I don't really know why he's rated as highly as he is by the England manager. I think his form can be quite wavy-wavy. He finds it hard to stay fit as well, doesn't he?

49:42Luke Moore: Well, he does, unfortunately. I mean, look, he's a decent full-back. He's got to say him back, though, inside. But Dedich has started life well. He has, yeah. He was a bit wobbly at times and stuff, and he's got a hamstring pull low, so that's why he came off. Another injured full-back. I know, I know. It's not what you want, is it? That's what it is. It's almost like it's a very demanding position. Yes. Last night, there was a revelation. Hull City can be beaten can be beaten this season they were knocked out by Sunderland one to nothing there were a lot of changes in this game in terms of personnel that we've seen Hull City we knew that was going to be the case because Jafirovic said yeah some of these lads we've just signed they should probably play some football at some point turns out they're not good enough well they were by the odd goal they've gone out or by the solitary goal they've gone out so Hull don't worry the Premier League will return and you'll be back to winning or drawing ways I have no doubt The other big story, I would say, is that Ryan Christie got a hat-trick as Bournemouth beat Lincoln City.

50:35Luke Moore: 4-0. That's just a tonic. Just a tonic, isn't it, for an embattered Lincoln City. Bournemouth, after Marco Rosa made those unfortunate comments at the weekend. Do you think they were unfortunate? No, I liked them. I thought they were great. So who are you quoting this time? I thought they were great. I don't know what he thinks anymore. I don't know what I think. He's just starting conversations. yeah but we I mean it's asking the questions some people want me to take my clothes off I don't know I don't know who these people are ordinarily if you get if one of your first contributions to English football is getting your getting your post-match quoted on the break idea of the Ramble it tells its own story well then he say put your finger in the bunda yeah but Ryan Christie something he had his finger on rather than in was the pulse absolutely can you put your finger in the pulse probably not if you push too hard yeah yeah exactly you can put your finger in anything if you push too hard I can definitely feel the blood It's starting to become quite erratic Erratic or erotic, Peter?

51:34Luke Moore: I don't know No, just erratic Yeah Good Tonight, Champions League is back It is We've got a lot of Champions League this week You'll be pleased to know Fans of the Champions League This is a big one Liverpool versus Atletico Madrid Yeah They've had some big ones Covid special It's the Covid special It was the Covid special The super spreader derby Yeah But not everyone is happy In the Liverpool camp at the moment Because Alexis McAlessis said he's really sad not to have been offered a new deal by Liverpool. He said, I see Dominic and Ryan, obviously, Sir Bosline and Gravenberg renewing their contracts and that makes me very happy because they deserve it.

52:06Luke Moore: At the same time, it makes me a little bit sad that I didn't get mine. Give him something to sign, for crying out loud. Yeah. Sign anything. Could he perhaps look back on some of his own performances last season and put two and two together, one would say. He does have a couple of years left on his own contract. Right. Yeah. He also name checks. He's not going to be out on the street anytime soon. He also name checks two of the only three outfield players from the poor last season that were any good. Those two and Hugo Eketico were the only three that actually covered themselves in any kind of glory whatsoever.

52:35McAllister was awful last season. So it's a bit of a brass neck, which one might, again, going back to how some people are a bit more unfair in their coverage than I am, but some might say is befitting of an fucking Charlie Kirk over here. Just asking the questions. Good God. Befitting of an Argentinian, isn't it? Yeah, interesting. It's like, I've not been very good. So rather than just get my head down and then try and have a good season this season, given that I've got two years left on my deal, my very well-paid deal, I'm going to say I'm, quote, very, very sad that I've not been included in the new contract ponanza.

53:06But that's all football, isn't it? They just... It used to be, you sign a contract, you get the end of your contract, you sign another one. No, it's 18 months out. 18 months, right, okay. But it just seems like they'll sign a contract, and then six months later, they want another contract. It does happen a lot more. Just to sort of protect themselves. But he's not been any good. If he'd come out and said, oh, I've been brilliant, and I feel like I deserve more, and he had been brilliant then fair enough it's just bullshit

53:28Luke Moore: it does feel like there were freebies being handed out and I didn't get my goodie bag yes exactly yeah exactly but Marcus you will be getting your goodie bag in Ramble and Cut double thumbs up for that double thumbs up for those of you listening on pitching.com for Ramble Marcus will be receiving gifts from my bag oh good I look forward to that have you jobied in the bag again no the final point I make about McAllister is I had a I have a memory of the start of last season seeing Liverpool not being that good and thinking well, McAllis doesn't look up to speed yet when they need him to get match fit as soon as possible.

53:59He was saving himself for the World Cup. Yeah, and then at no point did it happen. For the whole season it didn't happen at any point. I think McAllis has started the season okay and he's like, well, if I'm going to ask,

54:07Luke Moore: I've got to ask now because my form's going to fall off the cliff. But would you say he's done enough in a Liverpool shirt to maybe think that we know the quality that he's got? Not for that level, not for Liverpool's level surely. Or where they think they need to be or where they're spending to be. Well I suppose for Liverpool like I say it's not like his contract's up at the end of the month or anything so he's still got time and they're just thinking you know what you do have to earn it a little bit Maybe they don't want to keep him There's still time everybody There is still time Look it's a lesson for people who are like you know what I'm just going to keep myself fit for the World Cup and then the World Cup comes and then that happens and then you know next season you're kind of trying to buy yourself into a new contract but you were relaxing too much last season It's quite a specific lesson for people Well it is It's a lesson for people If you're a player who's just not trying that hard because you're scared of getting injured for the World Cup, and then you suddenly don't get a new contract, find out where your bread's buttered.

54:57It's in Liverpool, Carlos.

54:58Luke Moore: Yeah, but Pete's only... This is just what some people are saying. It's not your views, is it? Sorry, yeah, sorry, yeah. I forgot to couch myself and some plausible to my ability. My little birdies are saying that potentially in the Palo Alto universe, that might be the case. But I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying it's quite a specific lesson for people. It is a very, yeah. Does that not make it a lesson? It's not applicable, yeah. Does that not make it a lesson? Bird in the hand. World Cup's only every four years anyway. Bird in the hand. Not at the moment. It's just a lesson, Marcus, for those people out there who think about not trying that hard because they want to stay sick for a World Cup.

55:33Is there an allegory?

55:34Luke Moore: If Johnny and Fantina were having World Cup matches every Saturday, I'd be like, you've charmed me. You've charmed me. So McAllister. Is there a biblical allegory I can use to impress Luke? Because I haven't got one right now. If there is, I'm not going to give it to you. No, I don't deserve it anyway. It's been wasted on me. I'll tell you what you do deserve. What's that? And I sit down to watch Napoli v Arsenal tonight. That's going to be nice. Well, I will be watching that tonight. A hundred percent. Come on. That's what we're... Are you watching that? Well, it's double screening, Liverpool and Leicesterco.

55:58I think I tend to just choose the game I fancy the most.

56:01Luke Moore: So you would go Napoli-Arsenal rather than Liverpool? On this occasion, I think I will, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. You think you want to see Arsenal grinding it out in Napoli? I get a little bit fed up. I'm not saying this would be the case in the Liverpool game, games which instinctively make me feel like a Premier League team she's going to knock another team over at home I think that'll be the case with Atletico I think Liverpool would be favourites yeah because with those sides as it's the first the opening round of Champions League fixtures bigger sides you think it will take it easy a bit more whereas Napoli a side like them they have to be at it hammer and tongs every week yeah it's away from home and I think I just think it's personally a more interesting game interesting well Atletico Madrid haven't started the season that well they've been a bit hit and miss so yeah okay it's just two teams transition, Liverpool and Atletico.

56:46I'm looking forward to it though.

56:47Luke Moore: Yeah, we should be. But with Napoli, of course, Scott McTominay has had heart surgery recently, so he certainly won't be playing. But it was a complete success, we're all pleased to know. They said they expect him to resume training this month. They need him back as well, because they've not started that well either. No, they haven't started that well. So it'll be interesting to see. In terms of Arsenal, favourites for this one, who do you think he'll go for up front? Do you think Kai Havertz after his goal? Or are we going to see Vicky starting? I think it, I don't know but I think that it's a really interesting situation there.

57:19Luke Moore: I think he might, I don't know why. Because Habetz has been so good and he offers obviously quite clearly and obviously offers a lot that Giochores doesn't offer but at the same time, you know, Giochores, you need him sharp, you might have to rely on him. He did score a lot of goals last season. It might be set up actually for Giochores to start tonight just to give him a proper run out. Yeah, I think so. But. Because they've got Sunderland away on Saturday night. it's a tough place to go as we know but it kind of was a tough place to go and it kind of stopped being a tough place to go towards the end of the season after Christmas yeah they beat Fulham 1-0 there this season listen that doesn't happen without people sitting up and taking notes apart from me who completely forgot about it putting down a marker some people were saying that Fulham were lucky to get out there with just a 1-0 loss I'm not one of them simply was saying the Ramblers rubbish better news for Arsenal though not that there was any particularly bad news there Declan Rice-Gabriot and William Saliba have been nominated for this year's Ballon d 'Or.

58:17Luke Moore: Harry Kane has also been nominated and is considered the favourite to win it. Is he a complete man, though? Is he a complete man? Has he got a few kids? He's been a complete man for ages. Right, okay. Going on Enzo Maresca's... We're all complete men here. Going on Maresca's... Just got to have a kid. By a cheap caravan. Robert Carlos had 11 kids, I think. Did he? He's the most complete man. Yeah. Does he go around the full circle, though, and come back round again though. Yeah. But you get over a certain number and you become an incomplete man again. Incomplete man. How many mothers? Yeah, we don't know.

58:49Are we talking? Probably quite a few.

58:50Luke Moore: Because I think you go complete man, it goes all around and then you become a real bad man. Real bad man. For those who know that. Boris Johnson, could you call him a complete man? Yeah, he's a real bad man. I think if you have 11 children with the same woman, it's almost like, just fucking leave her alone, man. It's just too much. No, I think it depends though, doesn't it? Right. Did you have like quince at one point? Quince. Quince. I couldn't remember the name of the six. I saw a video yesterday of Boris Johnson at some quite big well attended conference. Is he still getting out of the bell?

59:24Yeah, where the interviewer said to him, why don't you brush your hair? And I thought, oh, we're still doing this. We're still doing this. That's it. Six years on, we're still doing this. Christ, on the bike.

59:32Luke Moore: I just want to know how many children he has. He can't keep track. That's the problem. He doesn't want to know. That is the problem. So yeah, Harry Kane, he's been nominated. He's my favourite to win it because I don't think there's anybody obvious to win it. Yeah, I know what you mean. I just don't know what you mean. I think if you kind of... I think those seasons in Germany helps you when you're lobbying for that sort of thing, what we suggest. Yeah. And he did score goals at the World Cup. I understand he didn't score in the quarter of the semi or even the third place playoff because he didn't play in it where there was goals galore.

1:00:04Luke Moore: He is. But he still scored goals. He is big favourite. to me I would have him as Ballon d 'Or he's listed as a really strong favourite ahead of I think Lamin-Yemal and then Mbappe and Rodri but I think it's interesting in the post Messi-Ronaldo environment yes it is there's not really there hasn't been a massive standout this year has there even Rodri winning it which I supported is still quite anomalous it is because the position he plays and the type of player he is it surprised Real Madrid to say the least they took it well though they took it well Always gracious in defeat. How are they going to react if Harry Kane wins it?

1:00:39Luke Moore: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. But quite wonderfully, Cape Verde's Vecinia has been nominated for goalkeeper of the year. It's quite simply a lovely bit of fun. You've put a positive spin on that because I was saying it was going to make a mockery of it. But then maybe I might eat my words because if you remember when Emi Martinez won goalkeeper of the year and when Argentina won the World Cup, I kind of scoffed at it a bit. Right. And then I rethought it And I did that wonderful, lovely poem to him, if you remember. I do remember that. And I thought, yeah, I had to eat my words and eat an enormous amount of humble pie.

1:01:13Luke Moore: And I do love a pie. Whether it's humble or steak and kidney. Marzipan. You can have a marzipan. No, for me, a pie has got to be savoury. You put that like an apple pie? Unless it's an apple pie. Where do we stand on crumbles? Well, it's the same thing, really. It's like a chronicle of one man's breakdown. It's like, what is going on? You never know which one is going to be, do you? But they were my views, though. That's true. All right? That's true, yeah. That's what I like. But anyway, Vecinia, it's a fun, lovely story. It is. And I would love him to win it, damn it all. It's a great allegory for you.

1:01:48It's a great pie. You know when certain teams qualify for the World Cup and you go, bang, it's brilliant, they've qualified. Yeah. And you don't expect anything else. Yeah. It's like that with the goalkeeper, isn't it? He's not going to win it. No. But it's great that he's been recognized. He's been four matches. Yeah. If not, yeah. It's essentially all predicated on the fact that he was amazing against Spain and then did some quite good saves in some other games for a two and a half week period. Fodd a lot of ladies? Yes, he did follow a lot of ladies on Instagram.

1:02:11Luke Moore: Pete was very quick to bring that to the story. He was, yeah. I was, yeah. I've got one note. Just to show, Peter. I'll play that note every time. Just to show, he's a complete man. He's a complete man. Who's winning at life? Vazilia or the man who points out that he's following people on Instagram and then falls off his bike on the way into work? No, not people. I was following a woman. Yeah. Yeah. I'll leave that there you were rescued by a woman I was rescued by a woman cuck beat a cuck cuck that's enough you're going to be rescued by a woman that's enough why is the cuck chair still here why is the cuck chair that's what I want to know Vecinia has only had two appearances for Colo Colo yeah since he signed I'm surprised he even got them to be it was a sympathy move yeah a PR fueled sympathy move and in last season's Liga Portugal 2 he had 19 appearances but at the World Cup he entered all of our hearts.

1:03:00What does it say about us though that the man with that profile and that CV is nominated for goalkeeper a year? It says that we're all quite sentimental I think. Sentimental and eager for clicks. Eager for clicks.

1:03:11Luke Moore: Yeah I think it's fine. I think it's absolutely fine and I think I'm pleased joking aside I'm pleased he's been recognised. It's a good story. It's a good story. I think it also shows the weight of the World Cup. It still has. But the other names on the short list you've got Bono I forget how you pronounce it. Everyone calls him Bono, don't they? Bono, we'll go Bono. Thieva Courtois, Joan Garcia, Gregor Kovo, Emi Martinez back in there. Eduardo Mendy, of course. David Raya. David Raya. Didn't start for Spain, though. He didn't. Matve Sofanov, of course, PSG goalkeeper. Unai Simon and the great Vecinia himself.

1:03:48Luke Moore: Unai Simon's got to be up there, surely. It would, look, it would make an absolute mockery of the award if Vecinia won it. Let me be absolutely clear. Ridiculous. It would be ridiculous. And therefore, I'm backing him. It would be like the mascot walking out the tunnel with the teams before a game being asked to take a penalty. Yeah, in the game itself. Indeed, indeed. We wish you all the best for seeing you for that award. And if you don't win it, then we're rioting. Thanks for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the ACAR Scraider Network. Friends of the Ramble, don't go anywhere. Keep listening for Ramble Uncut.

1:04:18Luke Moore: We're going to be talking about Peter going to the premiere of the Oasis film, Don't Look Back in Anger, the documentary about Live 25. And Pete was in the same room. As Jack Grealish. I was, Jack Jack. So basically... And your call. No, don't start it now. We're doing that on Uncut. Rumble Uncut will be an argument between Marcus and Pete about whether Oasis are any good or not. Tune in. No, Pete's involved now. Part of Team Oasis. I think he might turn heel. Well, let's find out in Rumble Uncut. I'll beat him to pulp. Oh, that's what he wants. If you're not a friend of the Ramble, sign up at patreon.com forward slash football ramble.

1:04:52Luke Moore: Well, as Luke already said, Andy Brassel is back on the Football Ramble tomorrow. so do get involved there and of course on Friday we're going live baby live on YouTube at 9.30 for the preview show thank you very much thank you very much thank you Pete Donaldson suck it and thank you for seeing you

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