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4:01Pete Donaldson: Hello, everybody. It's Wednesday. And thanks to Friend of the Ramble, Michael, for giving us that intro line. If you want to submit an intro line for a future episode and get an extended edition of today's show, then become a Friend of the Ramble on our Patreon. Click the link in the show notes to sign up now. On today's Ramble Uncut, we may be speculating about things we shouldn't be speculating about. But have a listen to that to see if you can get the lawyers involved. Last night, the Carabao Cup second round happened. It's back, baby. Six Premier League clubs were involved. They all won, apart from Nottingham Forest, because, Peter, they played Leeds United.

4:37Pete Donaldson: They've lost them twice in a week. Get all your borgie teams out of the way really, really early. It's madness, isn't it? It is a bit, yeah. Yeah, poor old Forest. But, yeah, an interesting round of Carabao Cup action. Obviously, the all-Premier League tie would catch the eye for many, David. But Leeds United, loving it. They're not conceding any goals. They're winning games against Nottingham Forest, specifically. Can we play you every week? Surely should be the chance. Their ambitions are very high. Yeah, it's another bad start for Glasner as well. So it was one win in his first six with Palace.

5:10He didn't win his first eight with Frankfurt, I believe. So it's just an end.

5:14Pete Donaldson: So Forest will get themselves a European trophy? Yes, exactly. A lot will work out in the end. That's the Glasner algorithm. I think the disappointing thing here is there was a lot of fringe players in that Forest team. And again, you'd always expect players to come in and go, all right, prove yourselves, then try and get in the team. Clearly, none of them are up to it. So they thought, all right, we're just going to go and sign a striker from Chelsea. If none of you is going to do it, they're up to it. I still don't know who scored the second goal. It was very confusing. It was a proper bundle.

5:43It was a proper bundle.

5:44Pete Donaldson: Bundle of him. Yes, it was. Yeah, not a great start for Forest, of course. But, I mean, you know, Leeds, I mean, they weren't at full strength last night, Leeds, as well, we should say, David, obviously, in the interest of good practice and so on. James Trafford was in goal, though, which is one of their biggest signings, of course, this summer. I'm pleased for him that he's playing football. He's a very good goalkeeper. This was a great move for him. He could play every single week, no matter what. And he's still only young as well. I think his future's massive. Honestly, I think he's a really good goalkeeper.

6:20Yes, future England number one. Say it. Yeah, go on.

6:23Pete Donaldson: Go on. Why not? When Sir Jordan goes. When Sir Jordan goes, he's clinging on for now. You mentioned Liam Dillap there going Forrest for around 50 million or 45 million plus 5 million add-ons or whatever we say now. The Chelsea owners take a lot of criticism, and that's understandable. However... There's some good business happening around these parts, isn't there? Dillap, I think he's a good player. I think it's a good signing for Forrest, if and when it goes through. and I do understand the potential that he has and obviously that's why they're signing him and I get there was injuries at Chelsea and so on and so forth but the goal tally wasn't great considering the season he had at Chelsea they bought him for 30 million much has been made about this for obvious reasons but adding 20 million to that value yeah hmm you know I mean you have to say fair play to the Chelsea owners forward players are expensive they are strikers are at a premium yeah and no matter what they do because didn't we fancy that move to Chelsea I seem to recall no I didn't no I fancied a move to a Forest or I tried to tout Fulham as I often do you know that sort of mid-table kind of club where do you see him here is kind of a Chris Woods kind of replacement yeah I think De Lapp could go in there and you know you saw what he did with Ipswich in the Premier League it was very different to going to Chelsea that's why I didn't think it was it was going to happen it's easy to be wise before and after the event Obviously, the injuries didn't help.

7:52Pete Donaldson: You do have to stress that about De Lappin. He's a young player. Not everybody who goes to Chelsea does well, of course. Some of the managers he played under, etc. I think he could do well for Forrest. I really do. I understand why they're in for him. We're in that stage of the window where there's not much left of it. I get that. What do you think, David? How do you rate De Lappin? Do you think he can live up to that kind of price tag? Even though, as many people often say, price tags don't really mean anything anymore. Yeah I mean look He's an okay striker Do you think he's just okay? Yeah you know I'm not big We've had this discussion before I think you were probably Trying to get him on the plane I guess And I was just saying I think he's just an okay striker Do you think he's overhyped then?

8:33He's massively overhyped Naturally he would be 50 million is about Right for a striker

8:38Pete Donaldson: I think Hang on but if he's overhyped 50 million is way too much money then From what you're saying No he's overhyped The way people talk about him He didn't deserve a move to Chelsea Right Like I thought that was Way too soon for him Indeed as I just said That's what I meant by it, and everything being overhyped. I thought this kind of level move was ideal for him after Ipswich. I thought Chelsea was far too much, and also going to be another box in their factory, just on the shelf, that sort of thing. So, no, this is a good move. He'll do well, and I think Forest really needs him, because they need somebody who can hold up, play.

9:07Glasner had Mateta in that similar role, where he was quite flexible across the front. He could hold play up, bring people into play. DeLapp will do the same. He'll work the channels. I think this is an ideal move for everybody involved. And he could declare for the Republic of Ireland, and have a nice career.

9:20Pete Donaldson: You can still do that, Kenny. Okay. Yeah. Or Scotland. The reverse Declan Rice. Great win for Leeds, though. What do you expect for Leeds this season? I mean, early signs. You've got to be really encouraged. And it's a good little squad. Fark's kind of now figured everything out there. Go back to last season. There was that point where everybody was going, there might be a relegation scrap here. But Fark, I think... You have to say Farker just in case there are any Colombians listening. Yes, sorry. Farker. Yeah. Sorry. He figured things out and since then they've been on a brilliant run. They made some smart signings as well.

9:54I think they'll do well. Top half of the table is definitely in the offing. Top half, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. I think they can have a go top half.

10:00Pete Donaldson: You feel Fark has cracked the Premier League like he did last season. I think he might have done it. I tell you what, fair play to him because I was one of them and I thought he's just a championship manager. But he's clearly shown he's got more than that to him. Fair play. That's what a back three can do. Cup run would be really good for him as well. Well, he would, yeah. Yeah, yeah. See, Alton Aker

10:20Pete Donaldson: He will do that, yeah. And what was also good, Pete, it was seeing a Leeds fan in the crowd wearing a Marcelo Bielsa T-shirt. In the picture of the T-shirt, Bielsa was wearing an I'm Not a Model T-shirt. So there was a T-shirt within the T-shirt. It was a turd ducking of a T-shirt. If you like. Right, a T-shirt ducking. Yeah, so we like that. Your man, Callum Wilson, scored a goal for Brentford. Nice to see the celebration. Nice to see the celebration. It was a massive deflection, but nice to see the celebration. It was a nice reminder for I'm sure quite a lot of people of where Callum Wilson is at the moment.

10:51Pete Donaldson: And Damari Gray. I was a forgotten comment. Damari Gray. Yeah, that was good. I mean, his major contribution, like, well, football's just closing out games for Leicester in their title season, really. It's not a bad contribution. It's not a bad contribution. A contribution we will never, ever forget. He was worth being dragged around a fly in a kitchen in the celebrations. That's right. That wasn't him, but he deserved it. Oh, OK. I'm getting confused. But yeah, Callum Wilson, there he is. I mean, Callum Wilson, the more Brentford play in the cup competition, especially the early round. That's where we're going to see Callum Wilson, I think.

11:21Pete Donaldson: Then they get desperate and pay him in the league and he gets crocked. Yeah, it's funny with Wilson because I think there's still that sort of poacher instinct that he'll have. I mean, he'll have that for the rest of his life. He's a good finish. That'll never go no matter how old he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll sniff out the goal and all that kind of thing. I just, yeah, the way Brentford play, it would have to be a particular scenario to pop up for Wilson to get on the pitch in league games. Do you know what I think? Yeah, but I think he probably acknowledges that's where he's at in his career.

11:47Oh, I don't think...

11:48Pete Donaldson: Yeah, I'm just... I'm looking at it from where he would fit into the picture. Yeah, he suits Brentford nicely, I was going to say. It's not a big money signing. They're going around for free. He's on the bench. He can come in, last 15, 20 minutes of the game, stretch a few defenders, maybe porch. That's what you want. That's exactly what you want. I did want to see him at West Ham in the Championship, though. That would have been... I mean, that would have been tasty. It would be a Dwight Gale-esque kind of like, you know, 25 goals or something. Do you think... Oh, the game's coming thick and...

12:11Pete Donaldson: He can't play twice a week. No, he can't play. He can't play thick and fast. He can play thick and fast, but not both. No, that's right, yeah. I just want to say, what a disappointment Birmingham's been as well, in terms of the investment they've had. I think they came in, you know, they had the documentary as well, and what have you. Big lack of investment this summer. Things just, you know, very much kind of like just simmer in there. And I think there was a lot of excitement about that. There is, but is there not any excitement over minority owner Tom Brady launching a new Gucci campaign? Is that not what football's about?

12:40Wearing leather trousers.

12:41Pete Donaldson: He is wearing... Apparently, at the age of 49, he's got into wearing leather trousers. That doesn't surprise me at all. Did you see that video of him doing the rounds where he's lying on his back on the front bit of a speedboat, just ploughing down a river? I'm not going to tell you I'm kissing his son again. This is my favourite subject about Tom Brady. Oh, I'm not aware of that. It was Tom Brady, wasn't it? Stop typing! It was Tom Brady kissing his son full on the mouth. Oh, right, okay. No, I'm not talking about when he got off with his son. I'm talking about when he was on a speedboat. I say a river it might have been the sea I don't know wherever it was a body of water a body of water and it wasn't the Thames it wasn't the child's body right okay we're dangerously close to the line there but we haven't crossed the line so carry on we jumped over it like the Fonz in that Happy Days episode oh don't bring him into it yeah that was an odd video where he was just it looks like it looks like if you want to be a really really rich person then you could be very lonely like this and this is what a lonely rich person would do yeah even for the billionaire Classy's a fucking weirdo.

13:41Do you think?

13:42Pete Donaldson: With his leather trousers. I'm here for it. Well, I was going to say, you know. Giselle's definitely better off without me. Yes, exactly. Well, anyway, yeah. Fear for Giselle. But he was in Miami, apparently. Of course he was. Obviously. Obviously. Why did I not put two and two together there? The body of what in Miami? Yes, exactly. Yeah. There is a sea or an ocean there. But anyway, back to Birmingham City. Yeah, very disappointing. There's no doubt about that. leaking goals against Brentford. On the weekend, a Pushkash award contender was scored against them. It might be over. I think it's already decided.

14:16Bristol City's Tom Ballard. It's just done, isn't it? That was a beauty. It's just done. He knew exactly where he needed to put it and he did it and it's just like, well, that's your career now, isn't it? Yeah.

14:25Pete Donaldson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wonder which football is going to go, okay, what have I got to do to beat that? I don't know if like, I don't know if Adele Tarat was still in the championship. It was like, all right, challenge accepted. That sort of thing. But yeah, Birmingham they crash out of the League Cup at the second round stage Stoke City were close to getting a Premier League scout but they didn't because Hull City won it on penalties they managed to do it against Stoke on a reasonably warm Tuesday night but West Ham beat Southampton 4-1 much better from the Hammers they've had a poor start to the championship there's no doubt about that there's all that business with the penalty and so on against was it Charlton on the weekend Frank Champion my father-in-law couldn't get it on the telly last night and it was kind of my fault because I didn't I didn't renew the login for him and he and he and so he's missed the one match there for the season thanks to thanks to old shitty son-in-law Pete oh right yeah did he goes to the to the games does he no he used to he's he's quite old now so oh right do they have a policy do they have a policy at West Ham well they clearly do in this match they've gone for youth you're too old to be one of our foot soldiers they certainly played a very young side in this football match didn't they yeah they did well they've not they've not won their first two games in the championship of course and the whole business at the end of the game against Charlton at the weekend was that Taddy Castellano missed a penalty the 93rd minute which would have earned them a draw and there was a bit of chat about why wasn't Bowen taking it oh has he bottled it there's some suggestions that maybe Bowen's trying to find a way out of the club having said he stayed and so on and so forth with regard to the penalty apparently it was agreed behind closed doors and in dark corridors and so on that Castellanos would take over penalty duty right okay will that continue?

16:21maybe maybe

16:24Pete Donaldson: I'll tell you what if Bowen was to leave though before the window is shut that would be sick enough I can't see it happening surely his father-in-law will keep him there I was going to say I think that's why he's still there you think so? But, you know, I don't want to speculate about that. And I should give credit to West Ham for last night. The West Ham where? The Academy of Football. There you go. It's back. No, but it's a good win, though. And they needed that. I know it's not in the league. Lovely come from Offord. Swinging it in right over the keep. Oh, lovely. Unmarked at the back. It's a good win, and it's made better by the fact, I think it was five of the 11 were in the Youth Cup winning team.

16:56So they beat Arsenal 5-1. And they did the double that season. So five of the 11 in that. And I think Lewis Offord. I was at that game, funnily enough. Lewis Warford really stood out to me he was brilliant again last night

17:06Pete Donaldson: you tipped him for great things I'm tipping him for great things he's a lovely little midfielder that's a good little tip off there you'd think that Southampton would have wanted to rough up the youngsters a little bit but they were so passive in this match really worrying from them I would say I don't know whether Southampton have got a bit of roughness about them a bit of a soft touch that's their youth academy and he's polite men to be fair they've produced a few players exactly very polite they're all polite all polite men yes Gareth Bale was so polite that he was like No, no, no, no. Someone else should play in front of me at Real Madrid.

17:36Pete Donaldson: That's where the politeness wins.

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20:15Pete Donaldson: Well, the League Cup third round draw will take place tonight. The clubs currently competing in UEFA competitions will finally enter the comp. They won't be able to be drawn against each other. So the big teams will be entering the third round, of course, as is the case with the FA Cup. So we look forward to that. Speaking of UEFA competitions, sorry Celtic fans, we're going to talk about the Champions League playoffs. They were taking place last night as well. Celtic had a 3-0 lead from the first leg, and they went 4-0 up on the night. We... History was... History was made in Austria last night, because that deficit has never been overturned in a Champions League playoff.

20:56Right.

20:57Pete Donaldson: Stunning stuff. Celtic ended up losing 5-4 on aggregate. After they took them to extra time. My goodness. there has been some bad results for Scottish teams, particularly the old firm in Europe, right? There's been some embarrassing... They're the only ones who sort of spend a lot of time there, I suppose. I think that's only fair to say, I would say. Yeah, there's been some bad results over the years. You know, you could start to list them, but I don't think that nobody needs to be booted while they've already been booted, while they've been down. But to go to Austria, to be 3-0 up in the first leg, and then to go 1-0 up on the night, Oh, man.

21:38Pete Donaldson: Lask scored four goals in 60 minutes to take the game to extra time. And they went five and up in extra time. And they even missed a penalty. So they could have... But I mean, this is... Diro must have been like, I scored two goals in the first leg. Yeah. Just stop. What a idiot. But Callum McGregor, who of course has been one of the best players in the last however many years, the comments he made after the game was scathing. Which is, a lot of people are saying it's very unlike him to do that. Yeah. But bloody hell, like again they go 1-0 up on the night and it's not like they went 1-0 up after you know it was a sucker punch after you know two minutes or something they've gone 1-0 up yeah after 21 minutes so it's you know they've played a bit of the game this is the World Cup they're having a hydration break you know I think Lask had I think it was 41 shots on goal oh they bombarded yeah yeah but that's what I mean they sniff blood they remarkable for a team to be that amount of goals up and then go oh crap Oh, this is getting away from us.

22:37Pete Donaldson: Because as soon as last score, the first one, which was on 32 minutes, you can see. One journalist described when the second last goal goes in at the start of the second half, he said Celtic players' legs just went to jelly. They just didn't know what to do. Because they've been in that situation before as well. And they didn't get all of it then. And it's like, I don't know. But Celtic aren't good enough for the Champions League. Are they good enough to beat? I mean, they've won the first leg three. Are they really? Well, because they beat this side 3-0 the other week. Yeah, but then they went out and got hammered by them.

23:06Pete Donaldson: Well, fine. But you can argue they're not good enough maybe to... I think they are good enough to play in the first round. Scottish teams aren't good enough for the Champions League. I mean, they have proved that. They're just not. Time again. They're just not. We wanted to work. We'll see what happens in the Europa League with them, but I don't think they're good enough for that either. Well, fine. I think... Yeah. I mean, I take your points. What I'm trying to think is that if you think about all the sides that reach the Champions League first round, they'll be one or two. I think Celtic would be indefinitely that.

23:34Pete Donaldson: one of the few at the bottom of the big league table don't get me wrong but yeah I mean look you're evidently right David I mean I don't know why I'm trying to sort of try and find an argument against that it was that it was their third goal I think the way that it was curled in it was an absolute beauty and he sort of thought well that's if the stuffing hadn't already been knocked out of them there's more stuffing to come well it did I mean yeah I think yeah I mean three of the goals were from range you know But the fact is, I should say, by the way, that Celtic did make the Champions League knockouts in 2025.

24:11Pete Donaldson: So when you're saying they're not good enough, I think they have shown a bit in the Champions League previously. I mean, I know you're harking back to a different generation completely under Martin O 'Neill when they were regulating the Champions League and they could get those sort of big results at home and so on. But I think for me, you know, for Celtic, losing out on about 40 million quid as well, not get into the Champions League is a sick now. Now, don't get me wrong, it will be great for the rest of Scotland that they didn't get that money because the financial disparity between, particularly the top team, Celtic, I know you could say the old firm as well, but Rangers aren't getting that money from other places.

24:49Pete Donaldson: That is a bigger financial disparity than anything in the Premier League will have been over for many, many seasons. So I'm sure that some will be absolutely delighted. I mean, you get some people, you know, a bit old-fashioned, like myself, thinking, now that's bad for Scottish football and so on and so forth. But my goodness, this was a serious humiliation. Yeah, that's absolutely where it is, humiliation. And you're talking about the disparity that they have, and don't forget, Rangers aren't going to be in it. Celtic aren't going to be in it. That's your two big teams. So if there is this thing of, oh, it's good for Scottish football and what have you like that, they've not made it.

25:26And I think they've just shown exactly what standard and level the league is at.

25:30Pete Donaldson: They'll make much more of a fist of Europa League, you would think. But I mean, I don't think that's a consolation they're clinging to this morning. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. But like, they probably thought the same about when they were played last. They were a lot better than them and what have you. Well, I mean, after you're 3-0 up in the first leg, you might be entitled to think that. But clearly, that wasn't the case. I mean, Martin O 'Neill, you know, he took the blame. He was just dumbfounded, wasn't he? One of the worst nights of his career and so on and so forth. I think that any feeling that O 'Neill had from last season, that is a massive wake-up call because you can think, okay this guy was great for us in the past and blah blah blah but the champions league has eluded celtic again like i said i know they made the knockouts in 2025 and you know to reach the champions league is an achievement for a scottish team because you have to go through those playoff rounds and so on and so forth but like they'll be licking their wounds for a little while oh yeah massively this will this will hurt them for a while yeah no doubt about it um and like i said just shines a light on things that are basically further as somebody said once Peter The Lask will be first And the first will be Lask Yes Very good Thank you See you in the light of me I was going to say Cut my life into pieces This is my Lask result There we go Rolling Stones Rolling Stones What?

26:45Pete Donaldson: This could be the last time I don't know that song at all I'm trying to think Lask Last Last This is my last No No You're usually good at this I'm really shocked I'm really shocked No Completely gone Completely gone I'm so sorry everybody I've let everyone down You have? Can't think of a word That rhymes with flask That's what I'm here for How are you going for flask? Well, lask, flask Yeah, I understand it rhymes I'm trying to think of something With a flask I haven't heard the word flask For about 15 years Get on the flask train I've got loads at home Really poor We're not laskin for much There we go There we are Rescued it Thank you, David That's why David's here Yeah, exactly To help me That was poor from you, Peter The lask slipped there Alright, before we go for a break, quick update from Major League Soccer.

27:34Pete Donaldson: Because a recent game between Minnesota United and San Jose Earthquakes was interrupted because a baby invaded the pitch! This is a first, isn't it? What is going on there? Lowing on there. Yeah, that would have counted had you have said it when the game was going on. We've moved on, Pete. Yeah, that's like running out of the changing room with the football. Everyone's gone home and going, Ah, scored! Sorry, Marcus. A baby was seen on the pitch during a professional football match. Yeah, it was described as a baby had invaded the pitch. It was described as a baby. It was described as a baby. No, sorry, it was a baby.

28:08It was a very small man. Okay, maybe... Clarify, please.

28:10Pete Donaldson: Could have been a toddler. I don't know the age of this little person. We'll go with baby, but the baby was described as invading the pitch. Can a baby invade a pitch? I mean, it felt like the baby was too far on the pitch for it not to have Charles Sanders discussing it later on. There are serious questions that need to be asked. I've got so many questions about this. Whereabouts were the parents sitting in the stands? How's the kid? According to Jim Campbell, the kid is Angus Gunn's son. Right. Is that true? That's what he's saying. That's what Jim Campbell's saying. For now, I think that remains a conspiracy theory.

28:46Pete Donaldson: Right, okay, fine. We'll see if it comes to life. Is it Angus Gunn's son? Can the production team check out whether it's Angus Gunn's son, please? The son of a gun. Was there a son of a gun spotted at the pitch? Had he been fired onto the pitch? It is Angus Gunn's son. It is Angus Gunn's son. Thank you. It is Angus Gunn's son, so show some respect. Well, Angus. I know I let you down with the flask mask, lask stuff. Angus. But I'm back on top. He's taking a bullet for you there. Angus, if you listen, I would encourage you to turn yourself in. Don't turn yourself on yourself. That was good. Well done, Peter.

29:18Pete Donaldson: He's back. There we go. See? Can't keep a good man down. Three weeks off caffeine, this is what you're getting off of it. That's it. No, no, no, that's fine. Yeah, the baby looked, or the toddler, whatever it was, the little person looked very pleased with themselves. You weren't pleased, brilliant. It's literally what they do at the last game of the season. Yeah, that's it. Who's with me? And nobody else was. I'm looking for him eventually being, or the kid eventually being a footballer. Yes. And then it's going back to this video. And then a 1 ,000 word athletic piece on the time that you can...

29:49And Lionel Messi runs over. He's in MLS, obviously. Gives him a bath. Yeah. Bath that burn.

29:53Pete Donaldson: But then his bodyguard comes off and pushes the baby away from Lionel Messi. All right, glad we cleared that up, everybody. Let's go for a quick break.

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31:48You know, everything was a challenge. I'd eat an apple in the, you know, watching the TV at night, and the bin would be by the TV, you know, six meters away or whatever it was. And, well, I would just do it. I had the bravery to miss and for the, to be a stain on the wallpaper and my mum to absolutely scream at me. But the next day I'd do the same and I'd be bump and it'd go right in the middle and my dad would give me a nod of approval and my mum would be seething but couldn't say anything because it went in.

32:17Pete Donaldson: Well, back to the football ramble, everybody. Now, Michael Owen has taken some criticism for saying that, of course, but he's finally responded to his critics over this. He said, the vast majority of people who laughed at it don't get it. See, Peter, you just don't get it. You just don't get it. And that's why they're bloody Muppets. They're probably still living in their mum and dad's house when they're 40 years of age. It's like, who's arsed? Peter, are you a bloody Muppet? And are you still living in your mum and dad's house over the age of four? I think Michael Owen would like to live in his mum and dad's house.

32:50I think in his heart of hearts, he's still like a talented football boy who lives with his mum and dad. Do you know what I mean? And he kind of likes... That's where he's comfortable, being a prodigious kind of talent. Do you like horses, Michael? Yes, I like horses. Dinosaurs. I want to live in your mum and dad's house. You're so lucky to live in your mum and dad's house. Not watching movies, though. Not watching movies. Turn that off!

33:11Pete Donaldson: well Meet the Owens of course is is coming to our as exclusively revealed yes exactly it comes out this weekend oh right okay it's out is it so yeah this weekend Pete's Film Club Pete's Documentary Club thank goodness that's over Pete's Pete's Reality TV Club yeah you can sign up now nice okay wherever you do it because I'm not signing up to that muck well well done Michael Owen right now it's the transfer window is still open and therefore we have transfer news Manchester City finally close to completing the£86 million signing of Aoub Bouadi, having agreed a deal with Lille. This is one that we've been waiting for for a while, David.

33:47Pete Donaldson: Talented young man. We saw him at the World Cup. Does this... I mean, again, he's 18 years old. Very young, of course. But does this give you a little bit more hope for Man City this season? Or is that too much to ask at this stage? No, I think this is the sort of sign that does that. And I think they might get one or two more in as well. and I think there might be another midfielder from a certain West London club. I'll say about that. Jordan Henderson. But in terms of Boaddy, just a brilliant player. He really is. I think a lot of clubs are really looking for a midfielder right now who is press resistant, who can get out of being pressed and can carry the ball and progress the ball and he fits that perfectly well.

34:30Pete Donaldson: I like how you describe that, press resistant, because obviously that's all the rage at the moment in football. Whereas if you get someone who can counteract that, than you were away. I mean, obviously, Rodri was like that. Whatever you did to him, he seemed to be able to wriggle his way out of it. I mean, he's a very exciting play. He was at Lille last season, of course. He played in, he started five of Morocco's six games during the World Cup. That's where we saw him. So, yeah, hence the price tag, you would say there. And I think Elliot Anderson will appreciate a bit more help in that midfield.

34:56Pete Donaldson: He was like, I thought I was going to be playing with Rodri. Did you really think that, though? Come on, be honest. I don't think we were playing with Enzo Fernandes. I was going to say, where's the nice-looking in Portugal, he's gone. Bernardo, where's he gone? Oh, he's gone too. He's away. He's away. Now that shithouse that knocked you out of the World Cup, you know, he might be turning up soon. Oh, deary me. Yeah, I mean, Man City are ready to meet Chelsea's asking price of 120 million for Enzo Fernandes, even though Man City know that that particular window has shut on Enzo Fernandes. Oh, the deadline.

35:26Pete Donaldson: Yeah, the deadline. I've got the deadline. I'd love it if Chelsea stuck to that. Would you not? You'd have to respect that on some level. If Chelsea said to Man City, I don't care you can offer 150 million we gave you the deadline and you didn't do it if they stuck to that which they won't as Ted DiBiase the million dollar man used to say oh lovely reference everyone's got a price and that is Chelsea's mentality there's no deadlines until the actual official deadline there's no deadline they'll sell anyone if the money comes in that's one of the Ted DiBiase the wrestler in the WWF as it was called back then Peter until the World Wildlife Fund finally caught on that is a very that now the million dollar man people will be like Is that all you've got?

36:05Pete Donaldson: You have to be the billion dollar man now. He's constantly being accused of fraud. He's a man of, I think he's got a super church, a mega church. Has he? And his son and him are constantly... Funneling certain things through there. Not funneling, accused of funneling. Yeah. Oh yeah, it's not Ramblin' Cut yet, is it? Wasn't he part of a group that was called Money Inc? And they had a wrestler who's gimmick was a tax man also in that group. Exactly, IRS. Brilliant. Yeah. I didn't say what he was funneling. Fuddling good vibes for our Lord Jesus Christ. There we are. There we go. There we are, you see?

36:39Pete Donaldson: Perhaps we may talk about Ted DiBiase more. Speaking of great deals, Hugo Vianna's selling well, aren't he? Is he? He's doing very well. Well, he's doing well. Well, obviously, it sounds like Man City are having to live within their means for a few weeks, which is very, very, it's very, very reprehensible behaviour from, you know, a great non-Eden story club, in my opinion. Thank God for Spurs. He's like a load of money for a player who doesn't play. Well, Newcastle have reached a verbal agreement to sign Nico Gonzalez. Yeah. For about£50 million as well. Quite a tidy player, good attitude. Very weirdly good signing.

37:17What do you think? What's going on? This is a good signing.

37:20Pete Donaldson: We haven't really seen much of him at Man City, of course. It's not really, I'd say worked out. I mean, he was brought in, you know, at a time when... Would you say, I don't say Pep was maybe worried or something, but they did a lot of business in that window, didn't they? It felt like that was like, oh, actually, we do need a bit of a refresh. And he was one of the guys who came in. So it was a difficult time for him to come in. I think there was a couple of matches, and I think it was clear in the documentary that was quite recently that Pep Guardiola gave a lot of fringe players a chance, which they did not grab with both hands.

37:49And therefore, he was kind of too good for the bench and not good enough for the first team. So it's kind of in his best interest to kickstart his career again. but yeah, great signing. Really happy with that. I think you'll do really well there. Oh, good luck to him.

38:02Pete Donaldson: To be kind of big money signings, Arsenal reportedly ready to bid 130 million for Julian Alvarez. However, they said that about Vinicius Junior. They did say that. This is the new saga though. Vinicius Junior, as a lot of people thought, was just probably using that as leverage to get a better deal at Real Madrid, which he did. There is a little bit of a caveat here because Arsenal are not going to bid this kind of money and go in for him until they get assurances that he actually wants to move to Arsenal. This is because... That's what a contract's for. Well, sign the contract, you're interested.

38:38Pete Donaldson: Alvarez has said, apparently, that he wants to leave Atletico Madrid to the point of the Atleti fans have turned on him a bit. He was getting booed in one of the recent matches and it's not going well there. It's a bit of a sad end by the looks of it to his time there. And he said, no, I'm going to Barcelona. I want to go to Barcelona. And I think maybe someone at the club said, do you understand though that they don't have the money and he probably turned around and went yeah but do you understand that doesn't matter when it comes to barcelona anyway he's he wants to go to barcelona so i'll sort of be like hey well we've got the money we've got the money yeah but i want to go to barcelona well we've got the money we can get you out of there we've got a nice river yeah yeah exactly yeah so i look arsenal are there they have the money they can pay him the wages and my goodness, if he went there, all this chat about, you know, well, are they still slightly light in the centre of attack up top or whatever, this would certainly answer that.

39:32Pete Donaldson: This would be a huge... I mean, if you thought the signings that Arsenal have already made were kind of statement signings, which, you know, you'd argue that they were, this would be like, right, we are coming for the Champions League proper. 100%. You know, so this would be massive. but he may not I mean but do you really want to sign a player for 130 million who you think to yourself there's no guarantee I know he's played well in the Premier League but if he doesn't fancy and he kind of goes half-arsed you can't be going in for a player like that who's a bit like yeah fine whatever I'll come that's what you're dicing with I think it's Robinho at Man City but honestly the quality he would give Arsenal is remarkable just a really good player and he suits their style really well I think who knows in negotiations might be able to say at Liga Madrid do you want to take that Giocarez as well well yeah there has been suggestions about Simeone apparently likes him he likes a bit of a hulking centre forward yeah he would get so who knows but yeah it would be a fantastic signing but look I have massive doubts over whether he does want to move to Arsenal it's nothing against Arsenal it's just the fact that he's so set on going to Barcelona but look they don't have the money just for clarification sake they don't have the money you need to tell them that yeah oh yeah we always do we've seen the past few years I remember when Dani Olmosan he was just in the crowd.

40:47He's like, yeah, I haven't been registered. You're a squad number two. It's a bit awkward, isn't it?

40:52Pete Donaldson: I love it though. What about our overdraft? That went, honestly, you're in the overdraft of the overdraft. They've sold everything off as well. They've sold everything, basically. So they can't raise any more money. I think they're hoping that they can sell the full back ball day to Manning Eitert. But I can't say Manning Eitert paying 40, 50 million for him. Oh, I can. There's always the issue as well. Stupid Premier League money as they call it in Germany. There's always the issue as well, and I brought this up to producer Rory, look, you get Alvarez in at Arsenal, in two or three years' time, he's going to go on, I still want that Barcelona move.

41:25Yeah, exactly, that's the thing. And then another saga will be created. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I won't avoid that.

41:28Pete Donaldson: And you're not going to get 130 million back for him, despite what Barcelona may suggest. Hey, the money never disappears, it just gets moved around, yeah? We all get to enjoy it. Yeah? Money there, money there. That's all I'm watching. Right, you're not talking to the police again. Arsenal apparently in talks to sell Gabriel Martino to Al-Hilal. They want to fear 50 to 55 million. and apparently Gabriel Martinelli is a little bit more open to the move, purely because he's realised that he's just no longer a part of the plans that Mikel Arteta has for this season. Ian Wright kind of passionately came to the defence of Gabriel Martinelli recently, saying that he shouldn't be being disrespected in this way.

42:03Pete Donaldson: Do you think Martinelli is being disrespected, Peter? I think we'll find out whether they're being disrespected if they actually go for the£60 million that Arsenal want rather than the£7 million that they seem to be selling. Which is really my hobby horse. Yeah, I mean, Ian Wright was saying, you know, he didn't play that much last season, but he did chip in with some gum. He equalised against Man City. You know, he provided some bits and pieces. I mean, I suppose this is how football sadly works. But David, you're turning your nose up at any suggestions. Yeah, so like I said to Jim, has he progressed as a player?

42:34You know what I mean? I think he still plays like he did a few years ago. I don't really see any major improvement in Martinelly's game, personally. So when Saudi come calling with a bit of money that the rest of Europe hasn't really got right now, you give a serious consideration if you take into account that maybe he hasn't progressed. You take that money.

42:50Pete Donaldson: Well, yeah, I mean, obviously we spoke about Saudi last time around in light of Ollie Watkins, you know, perhaps going there. And obviously that saga continues. But I do understand from a player's point of view. Now, obviously you've got huge money there. But they think to themselves, maybe there's a situation where you have to go to Saudi to then get a move back to Europe in a sort of a weird way. because the only clubs that have serious money in Europe right now that are going to spend 50 plus million on Gabriel Martinelli or a player like that, you've got fellow Premier League clubs, PSG aren't going to do it for them, Bayern aren't going to do it, and then you've got the top two or three in Spain.

43:31Pete Donaldson: So unless you are a top, top level player, you're not going to go to one of those teams on the continent with the cash. You could go to another Premier League side if you don't get the offer and it's kind of like, well, are you just going to be in the bomb squad and we can't say the bomb squad according to FIFA. Are you going to be in the explosive squad or do you go to Saudi, you can make an absolute fortune? I know there's that whole business where you have to stay for a certain period of time and you still get paid. I mean, the idea that you play a season, oh, we didn't stay for two, right?

43:59Pete Donaldson: You owe us money. There'll be ways around that. You know, you might not get as much, but you're going to get a lot. But perhaps maybe that is a new route now, which seems ridiculous, but you go, right, well, I'm going to take six months to a year to go to Saudi because that club does have the money, I will play football there. And for a guy who's a Brazilian international, that won't affect his chances at international level that much, you wouldn't think. I think there's a lot of players being briefed that this Saudi gravy train is starting to apply at the breaks. Well, like in China. China was like that.

44:30You remember they were... Move now or you're never going to get that money. Well, indeed, but do you take the point? Same with the Ollie Watkins thing, I think.

44:36Pete Donaldson: Watkins is different, though. I think with Martinelli, surely he would think... Because, again, Martinelli's good enough to play. for like a big side in say Serie A or even like a big side in Spain or something. But those clubs do not have the kind of money that you would need to sign a player like him. So you almost have to do, you know, I was thinking this the other day, that if Saudi offer it, if Saudi club offers it, you kind of go there, as I say, you make a lot of money in the sort of six months to a year. And then you go, I want to move back to Europe. You can go on loan. By then, maybe your price has gone down a bit.

45:05Pete Donaldson: And then you can go to... Via Turkey. There you go. Yeah, forget the Turkey option. but you might you might get offered I don't know a Galatasaray or even say an AC Milan or I don't know Sevilla or something like that and that's your way back in it seems a bit weird but unfortunately that is the lie of the land it's the nature of the market now I was going to say the market goes in cycles different things happen and this happens to be it right now and like I said clubs are so up against it financially with all these new measures and such that when an offer comes even for a player who's starting every single week in week out they have to look out They have to go Oh right He's just Yeah yeah They have to go Oh maybe he's 28, 29 He's got two years left We've got 60 million on the table Are we going to get enough Like that again?

45:47You are definitely not So everybody's considering it The clubs are considering it The players are considering it So it goes around like that

45:54Pete Donaldson: Interesting Well Going back to To Ollie Watkins He's returned to training With Aston Villa After missing their game Against Brighton on Sunday He's back in training Like Bruno was that time Exactly Exactly yeah He's gone up to flight to Spain. Yes, indeed. But Aston Villa have now approached AC Milan for Rafael Leal. Yeah. Which I think is interesting. I'm surprised, pleasantly surprised, that Rafael Leal has been at Milan for a little while now because obviously he's a good player. And, you know, again, this is my sort of old-fashioned, purist, naive, whatever word you want to call it, approach.

46:29Pete Donaldson: But to me, like, a club like AC Milan should have good players. Do you know what I mean? When you kind of, when you have a player playing for a huge club like that, I know they're not winning trophies or challenging for league titles as much as they perhaps should. And they go to just a lower league, Premier League side or something like that and they don't do that well. And you just think, yeah, that must be... It's a constant reality check, I suppose, for the other leagues in Europe when a huge club like that maybe can't hold on to their best players. Belial's been there for a bit, but he's a very good player.

47:03Pete Donaldson: And surely with his pace and his style, it would fit the Premier League, right? Are you surprised that no one's gone in for him before? No, not really Why is that? Do you not think he's good enough? I don't think he's good enough He's a bit flashy but overrated I think he's in Milan for a reason Honestly, I think that's a good level for him He gets talked about a lot And people say, oh he's maybe like I've seen him link with like 80, 90 million moves No, there's a reason why he's still there A lot of players are being transferred in the time that he's been there And he's been ignored But yeah, I'll be interested to see Prove me wrong if he goes to Villa I think Mendes has realised that Villa don't have that kind of money so he turns attention to Spurs which is where everyone they have been they've got the Morgan Rodgers man they have been linked with who's a big Ecuadorian defender from Belgium very good defender though so I like that one a little tip for you Aston Ville for listening right before we depart ways everybody I did want to bring to the table the very important news that the world humanoid robot game is finished today in Beijing of course.

48:07Pete Donaldson: Now at the event, robots are competing in sports such as boxing, high jump, tai chi, table tennis and football. I didn't know this was going on either. In a notable moment at the games, one of the robots scored a free kick during a football match and then did a Cristiano Ronaldo celebration. It was a very accurate one. It was good. The celebration was good. The free kick was terrible. Yeah. Keeper should have done a lot better with a free kick. It was no keeper. It was a small inflatable wall. Oh, that's right, yeah. That's why I thought it was a porphyry kick. But the celebration was very lifelike.

48:39Pete Donaldson: Peter, you're sort of the guy I would turn to in these times. When I see robots acting like humans, it freaks me out a bit, and I'm just a bit like for crying out loud, as lots and lots of people have already said, we can see where this is going, somebody pull the plug now. Help me out here. Well, the more I sort of watch this robot football, the more I sort of realise that humans or a humanoid shape is very ill-suited to play football. I don't think we should be doing it because they've proved, you know, they can do a million calculations about, you know, velocity and movement and inertia and all of the physical, you know, needs that robots need.

49:17David and I are glancing quite worryingly at each other. So you've basically... I'm just saying... I'm just saying... No, because robots are really bad at it. No, that's not what I heard. The human shape is terrible at playing football. You're backtracking now.

49:29Pete Donaldson: I basically said, can you reassure me? And you've pretty much said, well, actually, I think that one of the things that a robot can't do, I think it might be better than us. In fact, robots should be playing football. They should be applauded. I like it when the robot falls over or for whatever reason messes things up. And it just starts to just skitter. Skitter and jitter. Like it's getting angry. I like that. It's absolutely hulking itself up. so I love all that. Did you see that one that I think was doing, was he doing like a forward flip, I think? And his entire guts just exploded in sparks.

50:04Pete Donaldson: I didn't see that. It was brilliant. I've loved this Chinese robot show. The first robot footballer to have representation. Some shitty agent will do it. Yeah, I thought I saw George Mendes in the crowd somewhere. I can get you moved to Wolverhampton Wonders if you want. It will be. It's like that AI actress, isn't it? Tilly, whatever her name is. What? There's an AI access that some fucking dickhead agency has taken on as talent. And yeah, some robot footballer will get representation from some forward-thinking AI-sicked CEO idiot. You don't like these robots, do you? I don't like these robots.

50:40I'll tell you what, if they're a listener mind, you're fucked. I'm in big trouble.

50:43Pete Donaldson: I think we all are. I think what has been proved from the recent Blade & Races reimagining on the NUFC Twitter, robots cannot understand people from the North East. I've often thought this, people from the North East are going to save us. So someone did a remix of, I think they're going to play it at the next home game or whatever, of the Bladen Racers. And all the Jodie sort of singing his stuff. And the closed captions at the bottom of the Twitter page that was, you know, imagined by the computer. And we're all racist. Because the Bladen Racers. It was so shit. And we're all racist. Oh, what a lovely message.

51:26Brilliant. I absolutely love it. Could a robot do it on a Friday night on the Keyside? Exactly.

51:31Pete Donaldson: Exactly. Bloody Nora. That Blade and Raisins remix. Could a robot find Hugo Vianna's wife's ring? Do you remember when that happened back in the day? No. Real Newcastle law. Back in the day. Oh, dear. We are going to have to end the show on that note. Thank you for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the ACARS Creator Network. Yes, we're off to destroy some robots. Thank you very much, David. Thank you. thank you Peter they're coming they are coming yeah for you and me and thank you Michael Owen who's maybe the man to save us all yeah

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