Mailbag: Would a Spurs relegation be good or bad for the Premier League?

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4:24Jim Campbell: Pru免as Good start

4:28Pete Donaldson: Now everybody, you are The key to this show The key to spot You are the Richard Key to this show So send us your questions as you have done Otherwise we wouldn't be here quite frankly Message us on xbluesky Or Instagram at footballramble Comment on YouTube or email us And of course friends of the Ramble get priority And you can get that priority If you go to patreon.com Forward slash football ramble o sign up on YouTube.

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5:29Pete Donaldson: There was no sound.

5:30Jim Campbell: No noise. We confirmed no noise. Thanks for hypeing. No mind. A quiet hype. If a hype falls in the woods, does it happen? Well, it did. Yeah, I mean, Flavor Flav was introverted. It wouldn't be as good, would it? That's a good point. They should add like a horn or something.

5:46Pete Donaldson: Y es a la detrimento de nuestros listeners que no han asked us esos preguntas. Pero ellos han asked us algunos preguntas y les damos con esta una de las de las de Adam Cole en Instagram.

5:55Jim Campbell: ¿El wrestler?

5:57Pete Donaldson: ¿No? ¿No? ¿No? ¿No? ¿No? ¿No? ¿No? Adam asks us this. ¿Es it a good... Ask it like a wrestler. ¿Es it a good or bad thing for the Premier League for Spurs to be relegated? Oh, yeah, yeah. ¿I went for Randy Savage? ¿You went for Randy Savage? Correct. In my view. Randy Speller Yeah, you can't go for Hulk Hogan these days

6:19Jim Campbell: Is it a good or bad thing for the Premier League Spurs to be relegated? What a horrible question Adam Cole But it's a fair one Is it?

6:26Pete Donaldson: Yeah So what do you think Peter?

6:27Jim Campbell: Is it ever a good thing for a league For a team to be relegated Unless they're playing very negative football Which I don't think Spurs are Spurs are playing very generous football

6:36Pete Donaldson: Relegation is a thing Peter It happens Whether you or I want it to happen or not And if you don't like relegation Go and watch Major League Soccer Oh, the Super League

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6:48Pete Donaldson: pero si claro, Spurs por there estáis aunque mg haulers porque no finestra ¿ciendrít Revelation? ¿learning$1 ,000 aportarlo? ¿lactor de Intixto? para Mohamed para Promen Mármel ¿por 접 woundñistas para elevar el sujeto? Digitar ,我跟你 терía la pregunta

7:00Jim Campbell: ¿ CARSESO? No creo que interpretada a END either a ch sod chat otату ¿por qué 이런 mil interested en calidad todo el pregunt aquello con competencia si te sorpreietas Everyone competes. If you're not good enough, you go down. There's a sort of integrity to that. The sort of level playing field of the league is sacred, for most teams anyway. And I think it's very, very unusual that Spurs have got themselves into this situation. A big part of that is their injuries, and I suppose we can come on to that in a little bit. But part of the reason is, not just the injuries, but that it is a really, really competitive league this season, right?

7:41Jim Campbell: Y eso puede ser un buen tema. We've spoken a lot about How Wolves looked like they were going to be One of the worst teams in the history Of the competition, and not that long ago They beat the champions, and they've got themselves In this situation where you look at them now and go, okay They've got something about them, they're showing their teeth And it's Great for that reason, so I think Does it necessarily Damage the Premier League if Spurs Go down? I suppose you might look At it from their global fan base Estimados por 180 millones de fans Aún el mundo ¿Vale some of those will stop watching?

8:15Jim Campbell: Pero la Premier League puede wear that I no sé Creo que es una sign de competidores Es un increíble, increíble story Ellos son straight back up Así que creo que es ni bien ni mal Creo que es un muy muy unusual Realidad De la forma que le encuentro en la league

8:32Pete Donaldson: I get why Adam es asking La pregunta Creo que Es desde varios angles I think that my guess would be I don't want to put words in Adam Cole's mouth and I don't think he probably sounds like macho man Randy Savage but I think that maybe what the essence of the question is if Spurs go down then that we nearly got into a pattern where promoted sides were going straight back down was it two seasons on the bounce and that would be bad I think everyone pretty much can agree with that que no se ve que la Premier League efectivamente se convocan a closed shop. El descanso de que closed shop window es so dramático.

9:21Jim Campbell: Sí, es un club que no se veía. Los que los que se veía. Un club que no se veía.

9:25Pete Donaldson: Un club que no se veía.

9:26Jim Campbell: Para ver el club que no se veía. Un club que no se veía.

9:27Pete Donaldson: Para un club que no se veía. Un club que no se veía. Y un club que, lest que se veía. were playing Champions League knockout football this season and won one of those legs against Atletico Madrid so I don't think it would be a bad thing for the Premier League because as you kind of said there Jim there's enough huge sides and fanfare and all the rest of it I think you might argue it would be good for the Championship because you might have a few more eyes on that so I don't think there's any negativity for the Premier League I think it could be only good for again the reasons you said about the competitive nature of it pero también, es un recuerdo de que tu clubes se ha ganado.

10:13Pete Donaldson: Take la pregunta con el injuries y todo el resto de la gente. Mi Dios, Spurs fans han sido diciendo esto por so, so long. Esto ha ha almost sido, en un muy diferente de decir Wolves, que ha ha almost managed a decline, si se lo que yo. Esto ha sido calamitous ownership que ha led a esto y un montón de cosas. Es un perfecto storm.

10:34Jim Campbell: Es un Haleís Comet.

10:34Pete Donaldson: Y no, no, no, no, no, no, no. que creen que podrían du denim largaenix en el díaムbl nutritionista que no se ac,...инuo a verdadero decir que debería ser un buen ray No es

11:15Jim Campbell: un gran r Supportador ¡ indicates que no es que NBC sobre todo el trío del 190 en mi equipo ha conocido actualmente una situación aspe hacerlo me hubiera aún menos corazón ya vale si se no solo se quieren meter el equipo o team right, but specifically get the on-field product right because you can have as many stadiums as you want, you can have as many removable fields as you want, but you will get terrible ACL injuries if you do that. It seems every team that have had to use one of these removable pitches the technology isn't quite there because so many of these players get injured I think it's, like you say if Spurs go down, great thing for the championship and it just basically says to people coming in to park their para un poco de tiempo

12:28Jim Campbell: quite fair by the end of it. There's just so many variables The league table doesn't lie Peter at the end of the season. Do you think part of the essence of the question is the idea of Spurs being one of the big six which we don't really hear about so much now because the big six have been but you're right it wasn't that long ago

12:43Pete Donaldson: it was the big four and the big six and Spurs were invited to the Super League Absolutely On another way in another dimension Tottenham Hotspur Football Club would be playing Arsenal Manchester United Manchester City Liverpool Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona Real Madrid, Juventus, Inter and AC Milan week in week out That could have happened

13:05Jim Campbell: Even in that dream they're getting a whip in every week Fine Peter, but that's what

13:09Pete Donaldson: What a lovely dream But I thought it was important to name those sides That was the table that they were asked to dine at Other than Bayern and PSG and maybe Dortmund if you want to be a bit generous That's what you're dealing with That's what they were nearly dealing with Now we're all happy that didn't happen and of course It never had any legs And so on and so forth Kill your idols Kill them But we're now in a situation Where they could really be relegated From the Premier League It seems unthinkable For any of those other clubs

13:37Jim Campbell: To go down in their leagues But the fact that there are Six of them Suggests that you could Could lose one doesn't it Because there's enough Sort of big names in the league And we've seen big teams Go down before Aston Villa Newcastle Are probably the two comparable It is different though isn't it It does feel different

13:51Pete Donaldson: Because again They're in the Champions Or they were up until The other week In the Champions League el nuevo fadio iARD en la tienda a niveau de estar en lo contrario y en la actitud llena del abril el modo que se construyó cuando se ha llegado a la Champions League final el modo que se construyó etcétera etcétera y todo el chat about Pochettino pensé que pensé que era un lado que se quiera a la parte que querían que se quiera a la Champions League o solo trophies en general y incluso en la semana de Ange se managed a conseguir entrar en la Champions League y también se threw a la puerta y Ange was diciendo que la segunda temporada es siempre mejor que la segunda temporada en dramas y todo esto y todo lo que pasa y se dice reset se parece unthinkable es still really hard

14:29Jim Campbell: to wrap your head around indeed I'm struggling probably the most dramatic relegation of a big side from the Premier League ever is Leeds but that was because they essentially bet the farm didn't they on the Champions League and kind of spent money at the risk of kind of essentially sort of the existential threat of ruin this is not like that at all the injuries are a big big factor I think you've got players like Kulusevsky and Madison haven't kicked a ball for them I'm not suggesting they would be having a good season I can see your face Marcus but I do think they probably have enough points from those two players alone that they're certainly not one point above the relegation zone right but it is like if they do I'm allowed to enjoy I'm allowed to enjoy one point above the relegation he's a man who supports Arsenal he's done very well but he's done very well but genuinely if they do end up going down I think it will it will become the summer ¿Cómo did it happen?

15:29Jim Campbell: ¿Cómo did this happen to this team? A culture-o-lis league managed to relegate Spurs.

15:34Pete Donaldson: Pero su outgoings, su signings this season comes to£265 million. Exacto. There are really good players on that team. They spent£65 million on Xabi Simmonds, £63 on Kudus. Conor Gallagher obviously joined in the January transfer. Mateus Tell,£35 million. Danzo,£25 million. Don't start them,

15:50Jim Campbell: don't worry about it. No better than what we've only got.

15:52Pete Donaldson: Obviously they're the big ones, but even like Colin Mawani, who, again, en otra vez, scores un gol de la final. Pero es un síntoma

16:00Jim Campbell: de cambiar tu manager cada vez, y cada manager bringing in tu own spares.

16:04Pete Donaldson: Es inconceivable a pensar que un side que ha pasado 260 millones de quid podría ir a dar. Una de las cosas que un side coming up de la Champions podría decir, no, no, no, no. Si te dio 260 millones de Daniel Farka o incluso Scott Parker, they would be better. You would think that points tally-wise they would be higher than what they were. Surely you would think that But Spurs They finished 17th last year I know you said it's not been on the cards They've not been circling the drain That was because how ridiculous last season was Because they knew they weren't going to go down There was such a gulf between 17th and 18th That they could just phone it in And they did phone it in by the way And they prioritised the Europa League And alright is that the reset They're back in there they can attract some big players Fine Is it a good thing or a bad thing Ultimately, we're circling the drain of that question.

16:58Pete Donaldson: Is it a good thing or a bad thing? As I say, I don't think you can make an argument that it's a bad thing. That's not me saying, hooray, I'm not celebrating if Spurs were to go down or the thought of it. But, well indeed, Peter, it is entertainment. I think it can only be seen as a good thing for reasons stated because of the drama, because of, look, you can spend that amount of money in this league, you can be playing in the Champions League, bang, you're not safe. You've got to put it in, you've got to run your club correctly and all the rest of it Anyone else?

17:28Jim Campbell: Finish it, finish it

17:31Pete Donaldson: Run your club correctly What is BDSM? Where are me buttons? Where are me buttons? There we are Two days in a row It's been done You knew it was coming I didn't know it was coming I thought you'd still give me Ian Holloway

17:48Jim Campbell: That's the third button

17:50Pete Donaldson: There we go Ahí está. Biddy, biddy. Bien, vamos a ver con esto. Choosing overseas teams and managers under pressure.

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21:37Jim Campbell: y resultados. Si, Rosinha, por ejemplo. ¿Por qué es así such an increasing demand on managers currently y quién es realmente driving this? ¿The owners, the media o el fans?

21:48Pete Donaldson: I feel this question ha sido relevant for about 20 o 30 años. Thank you, Sean, por getting in touch. And I think this is one of those questions which is asked every few years or maybe even every season, actually. But you feel that as well, Jim, that we always think, Teams don't stick with managers I don't think that's I think it's probably been the case You could argue maybe since the 90s Definitely the noughties I think the idea of sticking with managers You used to get managers didn't you Who would manage a team for 10-15 years Despite what was going on I think that's the 60s and 70s

22:26Jim Campbell: It's the Arteta effect a little bit isn't it That people are allowing Some managers Underwhelming managers frequently To go on a little bit longer than what they used to y luego hay otros equipos que han tenido tres managers a la temporada. ¿Y Arteta?

22:40Pete Donaldson: ¿Estás diciendo que Arsenal debería haber sido?

22:42Jim Campbell: Bueno, Arteta fue un choc y bloco a couple de veces y entonces se le hicieron cosas. Y solo necesitaba que el equipo de él. Creo que él ha sido un choc y bloco en términos de Arsenal Twitter, pero no creo que el board necesariamente. ¿Quién sabe? Bueno, no, porque creo que el idea es que Arteta fue quien fue brought in a handle a rebuild y stuck with him when that was tricky early on and I suppose Amerim would be a good example of where Man United tried that so that is a project manager but a project manager isn't a new thing I think you're right Marcus I think this is this could have been a question we were talking about 10 years ago and I think it always feels like it's a highly pressured job where people are constantly under threat just because just because it is how much longer and a picture of Arteta that was one year ago No, no, un año ago.

23:36Jim Campbell: ¿Has Mikel Arteta underachieved at Arsenal? Marcus, ¿was Mikel Arteta's job under threat a year ago?

23:44Pete Donaldson: Bueno, lo que yo diría es que el choc en bloc might be a strong way de ponerlo. Pero hay definitivamente suggestions de si no se ven Arsenal a la liga title o si Arsenal tienen otra temporada sin ganar un trophy o showing any improvement o si no se puede hacer porque es que es que es que eso piechar I said about a year ago he's almost in like a Gareth Southgate, Sir Gareth Southgate zone in that he's clearly improved the culture and he's done an incredible job and these are my words by the way so I'll help yours, he's done an incredible job of lifting the club and the country where it was, got them back really competitive, going deep, lifted the whole country

24:26Jim Campbell: there you go

24:28Pete Donaldson: going far, they're among the favourites etc etc but at some point that has to turn in to a trophy win a victory and therefore Arteta is to blame Pete's holding up to Pete's just looking at thumbnails from the football ramble I mean to be fair if I was Pete I'd be doing the same so I think that there was chat about Arteta and not because of well ultimately I suppose is he good enough is he going to be the man has he brought them as far as he come Eddie Howe there's probably similar preguntas as well, so that's the essence of that

25:06Jim Campbell: So the point I'm trying to get us back to, right, is that there's never been a point in Arteta's reign where certainly other than possibly early on, but even then there was nothing from the club, there's never been a point where it's like, oh, sources suggest Arteta has three games to save his job, etc, etc. No. These are the points that we do regularly find managers getting to, and I think that's really more what Sean is talking about I think Arteta and Guardiola wouldn't necessarily be the kind of managers that he's talking about here Or Jurgen Klopp, who had a slowest start Exacto, Jurgen Klopp had a slow start as well, but he was kind of essentially bulletproof after a little while.

25:38Jim Campbell: But I think that essentially top-level management, especially when you're at a club where you consider yourself a Champions League club, but there essentially aren't enough Champions League places for all of them to fit into. It's such an extremely highly pressured job where it all happens in public. Everything is under scrutiny. You have to explain yourself after every result, good or bad, so the pressure builds that way, one way or another. I just think it's essentially... As highly pressured as it's possible to be. And I just think it's always going to be like this. I just think it's been like this for a long time.

26:10Jim Campbell: And I think it's essentially at the limit of how highly pressured it can be. And I don't think we're likely to see that ever change.

26:16Pete Donaldson: But is there something in fans turning their attention to the owners of football clubs these days?

26:22Jim Campbell: Maybe, yeah. They used to be very invisible back in the day, didn't they? They did. And that's it, isn't it? If you want to be a celebrity, you've got to take this bit as well. Well, that's what I mean. A lot of millionaires want that, don't they?

26:32Pete Donaldson: Billionaires, yeah. Pero es que se puede que Es que también puede ser Como la futbolización Porque la diferencia En la vida de futbolistas Es muy obvio Es por eso que tenemos La finanzas de las reglas Que han llegado ¿Vas fue FFP? Y luego PSR Y luego de las diferentes titulares Pero finalmente Tu tienes que spend Within tu limitación Y eso es parte Para proteger clubs Pero también A sugar daddy O daddies O mamis y decir, bueno, we're just going to quite blatantly buy our way to the league title in a very, very obvious way that we did see in the noughties, for example. So therefore, I think that there is more emphasis on the owners and with that, when you open the doors to really aggressive free market liberal capitalism on these sorts of things, I know you can argue it's always been there pero societally, si es un word, hemos tenido que irse y ha ido que sea, creo que, y se puede ver, y, therefore, el fútbol follows suit.

27:40Pete Donaldson: Y eso significa, que los, como sabemos, los clubes pueden simplemente fade away into oblivión. You've got to do algo sobre eso porque es un un sad situación. O clubes pueden simplemente y off they go. Así que el reglación es como in. Pero todo esto es un long-winded de decir que es por eso que hay más emphasis en el odio. Also, things like clubs Becoming into the modern era In the 21st century Things like moving stadiums We've seen Arsenal do it Spurs have done it Chelsea have tried repeatedly to do it There's still talk about Manchester United There's talk about St James' Park Obviously Manchester City It seems like a while ago But they changed stadium Even Fulham have a new stand So that's another thing The finances And again, that goes down to the ownership So I think there is more scrutiny On the ownership Than I've seen before, previously si se hark back to the day I think that's a I think that's a that's a thing so managerial appointments I mean when when when Ange Postacoglu leaves Spurs again I think a lot of people are talking about the ownership rather than Ange phoning in the league as we spoke about in the in the previous part of the show but Peter you were going to say something

28:47Jim Campbell: I just think the the sort of not intellect but the kind of character of the sort of modern football owner has changed and the price of entry has obviously gone you know through the room you know back in the day You had two Recycling centres You made your money in a bit of scrap metal Are you a local lad? You'd have a football club You're Steve Gibson-y kind of character And now it is just people who've stolen Billions of dollars of oil From the people That's the sort of level Allegedly Oligarchs literally stole everything From the people And then they stole it From the Premier League Pero yo creo que back then, si eres en charge de un metal un poco un poco de un negocio y no tienes que tener el dinero o el wherewithal para empezar firing loads de managers aquí y ahí y de ahí, getting rid de toda la dugout de gente.

29:48Jim Campbell: Pero si eres a billionaire, firing a manager en su set-up que te costa maybe$10 million, es un chump change, ¿no? Y la gente cómo se viewan como se había sido porque hay tanto어야 de poder y son mal ¿es mayor méteto de 못 de éxito o consiste en la información de

30:08Pete Donaldson: actuar y así

30:25Pete Donaldson: y así überhaupto de esas incertezas blade a lo justo y lo dijo líquilas y líquidas LO fanás una vuelta y la práctica de los fil другой y con el de eliminamiento potrojarse y más o menos traders Deixa tú 해�lo no tiene la gran画la Maybe that people are kind of I don't know what it is Could it be that people are just aware That players, you know, they come and go A bit more and they think, you know, it's got to be The manager getting the best out of those players I always think, you know, again, harking back In the day, you'd think, well, what more Motivation do you need to put in on that jersey And playing in front of those fans But that doesn't seem to be a chat Do you think, so Sean mentions the media

31:14Jim Campbell: And the fans, and obviously, you know Social media is a combination of those two things que es, you know, no no es nueva en este punto, pero certainly a muy modern pressure point. I think there might be something there, porque quite often, if you're in the, if you're suffering the emotional fallout of a game, you often look to the most extreme kind of panacea cause for your current pain, isn't it? Which is often to go, oh, it's bigger than the players, it's bigger than the manager, it is the owners, and that's not necessarily right, but I think maybe that pressure does come from people having access to all kinds of platforms when they're at their most highly emotive.

31:55Jim Campbell: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, blame us. We don't mind. Yeah, exactly. That's what we're here for.

31:58Pete Donaldson: Yeah, as long as you spell our name correctly. Okay, what do you call me? Yeah, it's an interesting question and again, one that I'm sure we will revisit next season and the season after. Thank you, Sean. It'd be very weird if it stops, wouldn't it?

32:11Jim Campbell: Actually, was it last season that there wasn't a sacking until quite late in the season? About December or so?

32:15Pete Donaldson: Well, which is what... Sí, sí, sí, sí. También hay un tetra effect. No, pero yo creo que hay algo. Just a quick addendum onto este question. I'm pretty sure we're about to move on. Pero Rubén Amorim, there's no way he would have lasted that long, I think. And again, maybe it goes into the owners. There's an element of we're seen as incompetent if we sack or just... And also, I think, to Man United's credit as well, they do try to give managers time. I agree. Certain clubs do certain things in some ways and it seems to work. Because some clubs

32:44Jim Campbell: feel like, oh, it's a bit coming if I get rid of them now. con la global brand y también tendría la sort de big

32:49Pete Donaldson: legacy clubs yeah

32:50Jim Campbell: it's like the shareholder the more shareholder kind of clubs that kind of instability just kind of messes with people's heads whereas Chelsea

32:55Pete Donaldson: you know in recent years it doesn't matter who they've got they seem to win a trophy well it works for Chelsea though isn't it so fair enough yeah I mean they are currently the world club champions maybe we should all be sacking more I don't know there we are Jim you've got the next question

33:09Jim Campbell: I do have the next question and it's from Valia Shabilla on email Valia says fans of PL clubs overseas Always have an interesting way they chose their team What criteria would you have If you were to choose a team from somewhere else Bonus if you each can choose an MLS team For whatever the criteria is Feller is an Iraqi American journalist Who asked us for some good vibes Because Iraq played our biggest game in 40 years this week In the World Cup playoffs That game is tonight So I will say very clearly up the rock That's with a Q That's with a hard Q Good lads

33:44Pete Donaldson: But look Good luck to them Peter How are you choosing a team from abroad?

33:52Jim Campbell: I mean I guess I've only done it like I think once there's my Japanese club that I quite like And they had the three Welcoming fan base Lines for the beer and the food were very very short And Peter Yutaka Was playing up top Now Peter Yutaka plays for every J League side And will until he's 45 I'm sure If not later And yeah Welcoming fan base lines for Bia very very short and Peter Utaka is my three sections which is, that's great because that's a narrow set of parameters isn't it it's very easy a J2 slash J3 side from the last couple of years I would say like, I think having a player, like an old sort of warhorse coming to a club he's currently playing in J3 by the way, they're set to be J2 next season

34:41Pete Donaldson: but he is 42 years old so nice Absolutely amazing Individual players Are a good one though Aren't they

34:47Jim Campbell: Yeah but like Finding like all Sort of like Fringe Premier League Sort of cult Concerns Someone's brother In Pituitaga's case Being in a situation Where they're In a In a weird part Of the world And they're just Kind of like But you've been there though Do you guys Oh Barry Letizia

35:04Pete Donaldson: Is tearing it up In the Seychelles

35:06Jim Campbell: Yes I love that

35:07Pete Donaldson: Clearly if you've been there That's like an obvious one If you've Kind of witnessed the play Which is presumably What you've done With this Japanese side Pero yo creo que... Bueno, yo creo que el Ramble MLS es el equipo de Portland Timbers. Porque Eric, que nos metió en Chicago para una de las redes sociales, le jugó a la Ramble theme tune, ¿no? Sí, sí. Sí, sí. Así que hay un personal connection ahí. Y we like Chainsaws as well. Love them. Otherwise, si tú crees about say like Serie A sides when you could only watch the only football available to us in this country was the Italian League the best league in the world on Channel 4 again the 90s were so good

35:54Jim Campbell: who's Bobby Badger playing for?

35:58Pete Donaldson: because AC Milan were my side but that's because they were the best team and they were on therefore you could watch them

36:03Jim Campbell: and also that's very interesting to me that you say that because I also loved AC Milan and I think it's purely sometimes it is es un vibe o un sensu de romans. O el kit. O parto de la kit. Lo que yo creo es tan interesante sobre eso es que si comparas AC Milan a Inter. Inter ha dejado me un poco cold. Agree con you. I can't really explain why it is. Why would you choose Inter over AC Milan? They had comparably good players. En a lot of cases. Ronaldo. The same players. So many players played for both teams and Juventus as well, oddly. They played in similar kits. They played in the same stadium.

36:39Jim Campbell: To me, it's obvious that it's AC Milan. Totally, yeah.

36:41Pete Donaldson: y es un vibe pero creo que hay un glamour sobre AC Milan y si no si no si y yo si piensa si piensa si piensa si piensa si piensa si piensa Berlusconi Bunga Bunga Man es el hombre you es right

36:55Jim Campbell: similar lifestyles hay un sentido hay un sentido hay un sentido hay un sentido cuando se dice lines for food and beer hay un sentido lines for the Bunga Bunga Exactly

37:05Pete Donaldson: exactly lines are certainly involved this is

37:10Jim Campbell: the Bunga Bunga Buree

37:11Pete Donaldson: Sí, sí. Así que, no sé, el red y el blanco kit me hace que me hace que me hace que por algún motivo. Pero creo que hay un glamour sobre Milan que no era para Inter, pero no puedo explicarlo. Es difícil, pero es difícil. Es un player. ¿Cómo muchos de nuestra generación, cuando menciona Fiorentina, hay un poco de... Al menos uno de los ojos un poco misty porque es un único kit y Gabriel Batistuta.

37:38Jim Campbell: 7up slash Nintendo, Gabriel Batistuta, Purple kit That's what you think about Both eyes now I would say Little explanation Both eyes What about What about players That have joined your club From teams Like Parma Tino Connection for me Was always kind of like I mean they are Or Thomas Brolin To Leeds United What a success story that was

37:59Pete Donaldson: Yeah so I think There's that I think if you've been somewhere Then that's an obvious One Again A certain team Atletico Madrid Are the team que yo tendría que buscar el resultado primero en España porque breaking up esa duopoli de Real Madrid y Barcelona con esa parte, en esa style y así, en esa parte. I also do think

38:21Jim Campbell: que tenemos un luxury y AC Milan sería un gran ejemplo de esto, de ser como el Barcelona y el Real Madrid y todo el país. Porque obviamente la teams que están playing la mejor futbol, por obvious reasons. Y creo que es absolutamente... Pero... ...you've got to enjoy that as a football purist, right? Well, you do. Whatever kind of negative thoughts you might have about either of those teams and how they operate or have operated in the past, that is part of the romance of it, isn't it? They've got their own TV stations as well you can watch. Yeah.

38:49Pete Donaldson: Well, totally. As I said, in the modern era, I mean, having been to some far-flung places in the world, you think, why, you know, if you are, you know, living in Nairobi or something, why would you support Southampton? Because for a lot of the time, you probably won't be able to watch them. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. So it makes total sense. es un error so I totally get it

39:09Jim Campbell: I went to Malaga last year just on that point Pete and you know one of the fun things about being on holiday isn't it if you're in your hotel room or your Airbnb or whatever it's like oh let's see what foreign telly's like and Gone in 60 Seconds was on Real Madrid TV I was like what on earth is this what is this media landscape foreign telly's always got an episode of Bones on I don't know why it's always got Bones on is that when they

39:33Pete Donaldson: sack a manager have they got 60 seconds Ahí va Javi Alonso Ahí va a la puerta Y aquí va a la puerta Luxemburgo No further questions He's going in mate

39:42Jim Campbell: I do wonder what Kenya's I went to Kenya once And they're obsessed with Spurs Because of the Wanyama connection I said what's happened Who are they going to support now

39:51Pete Donaldson: Well They'll be in trouble Although They've got huge Manchester United support In Population in Kenya I was described as When Manchester United beat Chelsea In the Champions League final In Moscow That time I went to Kenya I think it was the year after y le dijo que le dijo que la canya nacional team had won a massive game porque everyone was out with the horns tootin away from Manchester incredible coming up after this holidays for the Luke Nation and re-recording a Billy Joel classic Hi this is Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam hosts of the Watch What Crappens podcast here to tell you that the HBO original comedy series The Comeback is back for its final season On the official Comeback Podcast, join host Evan Ross Katz along with Lisa Kudrow and Michael Patrick King to unpack each episode.

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42:06Pete Donaldson: This from Pickle McDillionaire on X England's squad announcement was a national holiday in Spelgium What fixtures are holidays in the Luke Nation and the nations of other Ramblers? Luke's not here so we can we can stitch him up I suppose

42:24Jim Campbell: He absolutely loves it when the fixtures are announced doesn't he? He loves that He's thrilled about that every time Yeah he hates that for some reason So do I Anyway Jim ¿Qué tal para vosotros? So, over in Jimbuktu, we, of course, celebrate St. Tottenham's Day. ¡Oye! ¡Oye, oye, oye! And I make no apology for that. I also think it's a relatively new tradition, but I think it's really great. Finalissima, however you might pronounce that. Finalissima. Yeah, where the winners of the Euros and the winners of the Copa America face off in an exhibition match. Because it's always very competitive. It's obviously, by the nature of it, it's two very, very good teams.

43:02Jim Campbell: it tends to be played in a neutral venue. I think that's very, very cool. This edition of it was supposed to be in Qatar, which has been cancelled for obvious reasons, and the Spanish and Argentinian FAs are struggling to come up with a date and a venue, so it may well not happen, this edition, which would be a shame. But generally speaking, I think it's a really good addition to the international calendar. Obviously, the nature of it means it's two highly competitive, good teams. Yeah, no, I quite like that. Peter? Who would I go for? I would go for the Annual Celebration of the League Cup win Megson versus Warnock Whenever they face off It's always absolutely astonishing stuff And I would always sit down And remember where I was The last time this happened Because it doesn't always happen on the same day Obviously Carabao Cup win 16th of March I mean Gary

43:54Pete Donaldson: Gary Megson hasn't managed since 2017 Just waiting for another one Even then it was caretaker role y antes de que su primer job fue 2012 Marcus, creo que esto es muy disrespectful a Pete's culture

44:04Jim Campbell: I know Just porque se ponen un montón de chile en nuestro food se sienten against nosotros

44:12Pete Donaldson: ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué?

44:16Jim Campbell: It's just 10 times better Not as versatile I'll grant you that but 10 times better I also March 16th I obviously celebrate the Carabao Cup win Yeah you do Did you do that this year? No, I celebrate Mussolini's annexing a fuma Which is also the same day So you celebrate a different event Wait a minute Wait a minute

44:41Pete Donaldson: You weren't there at the reunion I never saw you there

44:48Pete Donaldson: You big fake Okay

44:53Jim Campbell: Do you remember the Megs and Warnock Big sort of like They hated each other y cadaạn2017, le enó Ese

45:06Pete Donaldson: primero que nos recognise Un programs东 que nos ska son lasvida mud manousch fun lo

45:24Pete Donaldson: mud mano usch fun lo We should probably put that in the calendar. But the thing is, there were so many of them. Which one do you recognise? Yeah, well, I'll tell you what we should recognise is the day we got our game back, which was Spurs at Stamford Bridge when Conte and Tuchel had that very highly intense, aggressive handshake. Yeah, so maybe that should be... I think probably the Luke Nation would be into that one. Yeah. If I may say. Or the day Portsmouth nearly beat AC Milan en el Ronaldinho at Fratton Park Ronaldinho they needed a Ronaldinho peach of a free kick and was it Inzaghi I forget who got the equaliser but they got it presumably offside equaliser exactly yeah although Luke does also he does love the memory of Thierry Henry wearing the Pompey shirt yeah when he was saying there should be a statue wasn't he yeah of Henry and the Pompey shirt yeah was that when they got beat 5-0 and Henry was like I've never seen fans like this or something.

46:15Jim Campbell: I'm not sure what the particular score was. I think it might have been... Anyway, David Duns Rabona? Yeah. I think that's worthy, isn't it? David Duns Rabona with his big monad. That needs its own day. Sure. Oh dear. Jim, what's the last question of the day? The last question of the day is from Luke Ibbotson on email. If you were all to re-record a football version of We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel, and I will interject here to say Pete has done that in the past to sing the praises of the shops on Holloway Road. Un piece of work from you back in the day. ¿Qué events from your lifetime would make the cut?

46:50Jim Campbell: If you remember, all of the lyrics from the song were from famous world incidents from within Billy Joel's lifetime. So I'm essentially asking you, what would you put in there? Lasagna Gate, Cantona's Karate Kick, Keegan's Rant. So yeah, what are we thinking? Yes. The good thing about this song is there are loads of lyrics.

47:07Pete Donaldson: There's a lot of opportunity to put stuff in here. I've no doubt someone, probably people saying, this has been done on YouTube before. Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm sure I have But not by us So, I mean, yeah I mean, our favourite things that have happened I mean, but shocking moments as well So you'd have to say something about I mean, there's a lot of Jamie Vardy content in there

47:29Jim Campbell: Any particular highlights? The song has 119 different references So there's more than enough room for Stupid stuff Like the Liverpool Beach Bowl For some reason, that was the first thing that came to my mind

47:40Pete Donaldson: Oh yeah, when was it Darren Bent who scored for Sunderland? ¿Y el baño de la coach? ¿ salmon pitcheas de loCH?

47:59Pete Donaldson: El baño de la coach de la coach ¿xale de la settledista?

48:01Jim Campbell: Es el baño, que aparcila Jrs, ¿no? ¡RodASH,

48:06Pete Donaldson: red focusing!

48:07Jim Campbell: Secret, Zuma, kick de la capoma Morris Volts, charity stuff

48:16Pete Donaldson: Blimey, he's coming back many years there What about, you know, and if Spurs get rallied Tottenham Hotspur blown away, what else do I have to say? There's the end, surely Or when Everton

48:27Jim Campbell: Eight promotion playoff spots in the championship

48:32Pete Donaldson: Or maybe David Moyes when he won at Old Trafford David Moyes, one away And that kind of works, you know, got that one as well

48:38Jim Campbell: Get it for a slap Squad cost ratio

48:43Pete Donaldson: Net spend is rising Net spend There's a lot there I think We would get a lot of mentions for our old favourites

48:54Jim Campbell: Jimmy Vardy does rhyme with Mauro Cardi I don't know how you get Graham Pohl giving Josep Simunic Three yellows at the World Cup in 2006 That was before our time though It's in our lifetime

49:07Pete Donaldson: Bueno, ok, fair enough I'm thinking more in the Ramble Lifetime Which started in 2007

49:14Jim Campbell: Yeah, that wasn't what Luke Ibizan asked

49:16Pete Donaldson: So I think we can give ourselves some leeway there He's the only Luke I'll apologise to There we are Thanks for listening to the Football Ramble Part of the ACAST Creator Network Back tomorrow for some more juicy football chat Until then, thanks Jim Thank you Thank you PT Goodbye Thanks Billy Joel

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