The Hartlepool Flymo Massacre | 2026 FIFA World Cup

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4:08I'm Luke Moore. And I'm David Cartlidge.

4:23It's Friday. Fish and chip and bat and sausage Friday. David Cartlidge is here. Luke Moos here. It's absolutely remarkable how much I look forward to the bat and sausage photo every while Saturday. I'm pro-batted sausages as well. The problem is, the problem is it kind of, it's quite, sometimes it gets quite close to the camera and it looks a little bit, um, like an appendage. Looks like an appendage. Yeah. And if you've got a backup order in case you get there a bit late and they're not, haven't got any left. They've always got ones for me. I'm their favourite customer. We're not going around the back.

4:50No, exactly. Here's the sausage man. Some sawdust from the floor. So as a kid, did you always get battered sausage with chips rather than fish? No, we used to get, from Joanna's fish bar, we used to get, it was half lot wasn't it? Half lot. What's half what? Half a fish and a small portion of chips. Oh, I've never heard of that. Half lot. And a bit of scrimpings as well. Scraps. We used to get scraps at school. You're younger than me. Did you used to get scraps at school. Oh, exactly. We got scraps as well. Which is literally, if people are unaware of what scraps used to be, people under probably 35, they used to put their hands in the batter and just flick batter into the hot oil at school and give that just no, you know, nutritional value at all.

5:34Just batter, flex of it, just served up for dinner. And I'm saying, we can have those days back. We can have those days back. If we vote the right way, we can have those days back. Bin face out. we loved them so much that after school we went to the fish shop Clems brilliant place and also it's terrible I have no tea for me tonight I've had no discrepancy we may not we may not reach the end of this World Cup as our veins and arteries just close up before us we are now approaching the business end of the tournament I mean I say that FIFA are probably thinking that well the business end of the World Cup FIFA is like just any day the World Cup's going on they're always open for business is there any more business we can do here thank you very much for supporting the football rambles throughout the tournament so far and on the continent as well.

6:17We've had loads of nice messages and we'd love to hear that loads of you are enjoying the show. If you've enjoyed any of our work of content, do leave us a five-star review wherever you're listening. It does help us. It does help. It makes me feel happy, but more importantly, it games that fucking algorithm. It also dilutes out all the trolls, doesn't it? It does, yeah. I mean, yeah, on YouTube, it's particularly important as well because the drive-bys are just incredible. Some people will say, oh, yeah, those guys were mean about the club I support in 2012, so I'm going to call them all paedophiles.

6:47You know, it's like, okay, great. Do that anyway. If you like it, then give it a five star review. Tell us when we're not paedophiles. Didn't you get called out for white supremacy this week? Yeah, that was a good one. It was not closeted white supremacy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's the best way to do it, because the Robs don't get dirty, I imagine. Right. France 2, Morocco 0. No alarms, no surprises. France, they just got the job done, really. You go for a Radiohead reference when you can't there's Bono in goal it's sitting right there I know it was a beautiful day for France a beautiful day for France okay fine it was the sweetest thing the second goal was the sweetest thing are France playing on a Sunday no that's when are France playing next I don't know well we'll find out try and do Sunday bloody Sunday I was trying to do Sunday bloody Sunday I can see now why you stopped with Radiohead yeah it's a good point it was it was it was disappointing because there's a couple of reasons I think that first half in particular was annoying just pedestrian the two reasons it was kind of depressing is because one, you know, France haven't really been tested and we're getting to the point now where, okay, they're in the semi-final, so at some point they need to be tested and I don't think England can do it so someone needs to do it.

7:55And secondly, Morocco play within themselves, right? Which is probably the most disappointing thing. Morocco seemed to play not very Morocco-like because they gave France a huge amount of respect and I think it was it meant there was very little jeopardy in the game. Morocco's, you know, chance, quality of chance was very, very low. They were few and far between. It felt like Japan against Brazil. Yeah. It just felt like they gave France all their own way. And to me, I know it's easier said than done and, you know, and if England do that, I mean, if they play, if they get to play France and obviously I have to take it on the chin as well.

8:28But I just feel like in knockout football in a big World Cup, Morocco's record generally is sensational. They've lost like three games in the last 65 or something. Yeah. That you can go out and you can have a go And if you're going to lose 2-0, ultimately, you might as well lose 4-0. But they didn't leave anyone up front when they were defending. They didn't have any outlook or anything like that. And it was markedly different to how France did. I know France were a better team, but I think if you are going to play in that way, in knockout football, given the weapons that France have got, you need to have some jeopardy in the game, and you need to give them something to think about as well.

9:03And they just didn't do that, and the whole thing became a bit of a damp squib, really. We know about France's quality and everything. They just didn't make any attempt to reduce the margins. And look, we'll go back to the Paraguay game. And I know people didn't like that. They kicked the shit out of them. They kicked the shit out of them. At least they tried something to kind of like, we know they are much better than us technically on every single level. Let's try and reduce the gap between us. And this is how we can do it. Morocco, and I'm really surprised given just the historical context, the relationship between the two countries and everything like that, and the links between the two as well.

9:32Morocco didn't really get in France's faces and just try and maybe even rough them up a little bit. just unsettle them and just say you're not going to get all your own way here they didn't make any attempt at that and don't get me wrong I know the Saibari injury really really hurt them and that took away a lot of their attacking output but to not really have a go to get this far and have that much promise and then to turn up and offer this really really disappointing one of the most disappointing I think performances of the tournament maybe they're waiting for the CAF appeals committee to get home maybe they are we don't actually need to win to be honest all our best players are in the courtroom so we'll do this and then we'll...

10:08Yeah, I think we can award this one to Mbappe's boys. Like you say, it was just so... Manion could have had a lovely sleep on the first half. Yeah, it was a bit of a shame. I think it became quite clear from early on that Morocco weren't going to offer much. And I wondered whether they were just going to bide their time and try and keep it tight for the first half and then maybe kind of go through the gears or something. but then I also wonder whether there's so much about this France side that the only way you can really get them is to try and kick the shit out of them and on the Paraguay thing you know ultimately it's the referee's responsibility to ensure the safety of the players and all the rest of it and if you're not going out to hurt players I don't particularly have a problem with you being super physical and all that kind of stuff but Morocco didn't offer any of that and you know they are talented they obviously got to the semi-file last time you know and will be in my France so you know they had a score to settle as well.

11:03Yeah, it was just super disappointing. I also found that the one thing that obviously didn't help them was the absolutely brainless decision by Mas Raui to fucking chop down Mbappe, a really key part of the game. Oh, get physical there. Yeah. Yeah, it's the wrong place. And the penalty... I don't know what it is about penalties in this tournament, but there was a combination here in this situation where it's a brainless decision to chop him down. I mean, it's obviously a penalty. I know there were people trying to kind of, you know, argue that there was one of Maserawi's shoelaces might have flicked the ball when he was making the challenge.

11:39It was a ridiculous challenge. Yeah, of course it was. Really clumsy. Then they took three minutes to var it. Then they had to replace the ball twice. And then he took what can only be described as one of the worst penalties in World Cup history. It was a very odd sort of set of circumstances. It was really strange. And even off the back of that, Morocco didn't get any boost out. They didn't go, Jesus, we've got out of jail there right now. We can really play our game. They didn't even try and play their game. and I do maintain it is easier said than done but I do maintain if you're going to go out 2-0 in a regulation fucking defeat that you know you get picked off for a second goal and you're not in the game and that's the end of it and you go home you might as well fucking go for it throw the kitchen sink at it leave a couple of men up front and if you get beat 4-0 you can at least say we're at front and we're going to go yeah yeah I don't understand it you know there's no point getting in the boxing ring and not having a punch well I mean they came out of the blocks quite well I thought in the second half but they just sort of faded again.

12:31But their heart wasn't in that though. Their heart wasn't in it. I don't think they were forced. It felt like, I think there was an open Meccano slip and then I think there was one more. I think it was Sliver very early on. It felt as though France would have to make a mistake themselves, just kind of lose concentration to allow Morocco in because Morocco weren't really generating anything compared to this to the game against Canada with Morocco and they were generating all sorts of chances. And it was, and I completely agree with Luke and I'm so for this. I'm happy to get beaten as long as I get beaten in the right manner and I know my team and my players have completely gone in there and tried Morocco fans hey they're a passionate bunch as well by the way let's say this their fans and their players as well for them to turn that sort of performance in bizarre it's really puzzled me how they perform and I think you can you can also you can also kind of transpose yourself across as an England fan say if England play France they're going to fall short enough to get to the final and play France right we've got the players to rough them up as well but they play like Morocco did I mean, I think, you know, maybe on their day, England are a slightly better team than Morocco, but there's not that much in it.

13:32I mean, if England played Morocco, you'd be going, that's a 50-50 game. Morocco were good, right? If England played like that against France, you'd be like, what's the fucking point of being in the final? And this is a team in Morocco who have had brilliant success in the Africa Cup of Nations, brilliant success by their own standards in the World Cup. They should have a lot of belief and they just felt like it was like little brother against big brother. Yeah, 100%. And it's like, it's disappointing. So that was why I was kind of frustrated and obviously Dembele puts the cherry on top at the end.

14:01Dine was unlucky not to score as well, thought he did quite well. And I can't understand why Dine looked so good. I know Douwe's a good player, but Dine's a good player and stuff, but they've got Hakimi down the right, he's an absolute flying machine. They've got Braham Diaz, he's a top quality player who played since he played off the right for quite a lot of it as well. It was, I mean, they didn't really affect the game. And so yeah, I think if I were a Morocco fan today, I'd be just super disappointed at a missed opportunity. Not saying they could have won, but they could have given it a better go.

14:28So, yeah, it was a shame. Yeah, I mean, the XG is telling at the end of the match 0.14 from Morocco compared to France's 3.34. You've got to be careful on XG because you get a lot of people reporting different things, I find. There's no defined standard, is there? Yeah, but it seems to be kind of like reported by different people where, yeah, you're completely right. But, you know, you choose your own X-Genius, I suppose. Yeah. Your ex-gastronomes, if you will. That one's from XG Philosophy. Yeah, XG Philosophy. I'm an XG Philosophy stan. That's who I believe. But that tells you its own story as well because Morocco actually had more possession.

15:03Yeah. So France like, cheers. We know you're not going to try anything because you're frightened. You're not going to leave anyone up front when we're attacking. You're not going to try and penetrate because you're worried about getting caught out. So have as much of the ball as you want. I think they were just playing for penalties from the start. I hope not. Because that would be bullshit. But honestly, they know who they've got in goal. No, genuinely. Were they potentially trying to weird it out for penalties? Yeah. His record is amazing. Yeah, they'd say like, look, in 90 minutes, France, 90 minutes next time, France might be favourites.

15:27But if this gets the penalties, we now suddenly become favourites. So who knows? Is Bono like a, is he like a well-known name in Spain? Yes. Because he played in Spain for a long time. And for a lot of people, he would only have come into the consciousness probably last World Cup, right? There was the last World Cup and then there was the Europa League final as well. So he saved two penalties, I believe, against Roma. That's right. So he was at Seville there. Yeah, he was brilliant at Sevilla and that's where I'd say he rose to prominence. Because he could have played for Canada as well. He's got some Canadian sort of things.

15:58He was born in Montreal apparently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So he could have played for them as well. I mean, 96 caps for Morocco. I think he's probably, he's thrown his lot in there. He's set in but... I don't think he's thinking that. But yeah, he's got a few games for Canada. He's a big lad and very, very good at stopping the old penalties. I think he's a good goalkeeper generally. Yeah, he is. I think he is. I think he didn't really have much chance with the goal. I mean, the Mbappe goal, having said what I just said about Morocco, You can't hide away from the fact that France's quality, my God.

16:24That Mbappe goal, if you watch it from a certain angle, he kind of looks up. Obviously, his feet are quick. He looks up and he bends it perfectly around the defender, who he basically uses as a shield, so the keeper can't see it till late. And even if the keeper does see it, it's so far in the corner anyway. It's absolutely inch perfect. I think for those of us, and certainly me, who don't watch Mbappe every week, I think there could be a tendency to kind of forget what makes him so special. he's obviously you hear like no he's about you know his club side people can be slightly critical of him because obviously he doesn't do any defending and he certainly doesn't do any defending for France you'd say but for him to sort of just turn up every match with at least two moments like that it's just astonishing to nail that like sort of say well at some point Mbappe will pop up with an absolute peach like that he's now on eight goals it's now two World Cups he's got eight goals eight or more goals in two different World Cups.

17:20I mean, it's an astonishing record from the man. It's absolutely ridiculous. And what, he's still probably got, what, two World Cups in him? You'd probably say at least. So, I mean, this record, he's going to absolutely obliterate. You wonder who's going to come around and actually top it. Incredible finish. The way, that type of strike he loves, where he can hit it, get the back lift, but also get the dip. He loves doing that from a cutting point of view. And he's been brilliant. He really, really has. And look, you can criticise Mbappe for a lot of things, but I don't think from an attacking point of view, he hides.

17:47he looks to get on the ball he looks to change a game and turn again he's also like a bit of a throwback as far as he absolutely loves the World Cup he seems to turn up to his very best in that spot like if you think so he's played three World Cups he got to the final in the first two and it looks like he'll at least get to the final in the I mean you can't overlook the semi-final but they've got a really good chance they've looked like the best team by miles in the World Cup so you could say he's got a really good chance of getting to a third final row he scored four goals in 2018 eight in 2022, and eight already in 2026.

18:20I know there's an extra game. He loves the World Cup. He clearly just, and he seems, I mean, I'm not saying he doesn't score goals at club football because obviously he's got 40-odd goals for Real Madrid in the last couple of seasons, but he is clearly someone for this massive occasion. He clearly loves it and so it translates really well across the World Cup and that may seem like a trite thing to say, but there are other world-class players down the years who haven't shown their, I mean, Cristiano Ronaldo would be a great example, hasn't shown his very best at the World Cup. Forget what's happened this summer.

18:48It's happened before. Mbappe's translated into the World Cup so well. So it's remarkable what France are doing actually. If they win the World Cup this year, which they'd be overwhelming favourites to do, it's proper dynasty stuff actually because they've had life and death in 2022. If they win it this year, there would have been three World Cups in a row. They've come basically a hair's breadth away from winning three World Cups in a row. I mean, it's amazing. It is amazing. There was a lot of pressure on Mbappe for this one as well because I mean with Griezmann moving out of the national team everybody was kind of like oh how they're going to react to that he's been the Dechamps player.

19:23But the thing that gets me and I think what contrasts with like Messi and Ronaldo he's just got such broad shoulders and and he has to because he gets fucking dogs abuse sometimes and he doesn't duck the politics like Messi and Ronaldo do in lieu of their brand in my opinion and I just think he's just a really important statement for football. Your brand is quite bad politics, isn't it? So you've kind of confined the two. That is your brand. On the three World Cups in a row, looking back, Brazil did three and four. And obviously that was kind of interrupted by England in the 66. But I mean, obviously they haven't done it, so I guess it's pointless to me saying it.

20:03But they've been very close to doing it. I think they'll win the World Cup pretty easily. I think the point is it'll be the one thing that undermined the quality of football in this World Cup, which has been very good. If you forget, you know, with the World Cup, you've always got to put all the politics to one side and that kind of shit. If you focus on the football, it's been really good this year. It's been really, and it tends to be. If France win it at a canter, if they just ghost past the semi-final and beat a team easily at the final, you'd have to say the one thing that's come to undermine it is that France have been too good.

20:32It's like from start to finish, they've gone through the gears. They've not really been in trouble and they've been fine. And that will be a little bit disappointing. That's how good they are. Yeah. Well, either way, the Moroccans are out. The Atlas lions are out, as they say. Have you ever seen a Barbary lion, by the way? I have. The very last photograph of a Barbary lion. In the wild. Yeah, possibly taken in Morocco. I'm not sure, but it will certainly be taken in North Africa. It's one of the most haunting photos you'll ever see. It's taken from the top of a cliff, and it's one solitary lion walking with his footprints behind him through almost like a desert track.

21:07And it's the last time anyone was ever spotted. It literally looks like that last lion is going off to die somewhere. It's incredibly emotive. Were they in captivity for years afterwards then? They're still in captivity. Oh, they're still in captivity. Okay, I didn't know that. You can still see them now. The Atlas Lions is a great nickname. You've got the indomitable lions, Cameroon as well. Well, we used to have lions here, the cave lions. Did we? Yeah, we had to use that. I mean, I don't know why the England, why these three lions exist, but either way, we used to have English lions. Did we?

21:36Yeah, back in the day. Like before recording history. Back in the 50s? Yeah, back in the 50s. Plus a few years. Did the lions win the Battle of Britain? Well, they were called cave lions because their bones were found in a cave, which is not where they lived, which is a bit annoying. Probably raining though, wouldn't it? Get out of here. But they didn't have any men. But it'd be like me saying, you know, I die, my bones are found in a FIFA approved strip club, and we're the people of the strip club humans. That's an environment, yeah. Because we just found one, yeah. I think that, Pete, if I may be so bold, I think that would be a fairly good outcome for your family, that.

22:16I think, yeah, fine. They'd take that. Yeah, they'd take that off. They definitely, they would not twist on that. Yeah. They'd stick with that. Absolutely. Did he have an orange in his mouth? No, he didn't. No, not a pot of ammo found on him. All right, well, coming up after this, Dan Byrne does some big backflips.

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25:55What's his standout strength, Erling Haaland? Finishing. Have you seen anything like it? Yeah. Hurricane. He loves it. Spence loves it. He's in the zone. Very cool. Loves the press calls, doesn't he? I was, that was Jed Spence being interviewed before the Norway game, right? I was chatting to a mate of mine the other day about Harland and Kane. He's a journalist for the BBC, and he was saying that, a sports journalist, he was saying that if Harland had decided to represent England, he would have finished Kane's international career years ago. I was like, really? I don't think that. I can't see that.

26:38What do you mean? As in like... As in like Kane wouldn't want to be back up to Harland. He would be back up to Harland. He would have just gone. Just gone. I could see us doing like the old thing where we try to jam everybody from the golden generation at one midfield. Yeah, but that'd be good though. We've got two up top. With Kane and Harlan, that would actually be good. I mean, Kane could be blacked in midfield probably. Yeah, he would. But I mean, the thing is though, you talk about that and you think, okay, that does sound like we've been bitten by that before. But with how much Kane likes to drop deep and the fact that Harlan just basically stays up there.

27:07Never as a six foot ten massive bloke, ever been more invisible to come here before than Harlan. He'd just stay there and then batter people. I think it would actually be amazing. Imagine the discourse in the English press over that if we had them both. You've got to go two up top. You've got to go two up top. And then if you argue about people going, oh, we have to go one. I'll be one of them. Yeah, you had one too, wasn't I? Yeah, same. Mixer. Do you know what I think? Physically, he looks too Norwegian for an England squad. Would that be fair? Born in Leeds. I know he's born in Leeds. I know, but look at him.

27:32He looks like a Viking. Half a North England and a half Viking. Yeah, exactly. You've probably got, I mean, It's pretty poor two examples here. Never have two northern men looked less like Vikings. You look more like a Viking. You're like hobbits. Goblin. Little northern goblins. Oh, my God. Oh, outrageous. Yes. Well, welcome to the football rambles. We'll be banging the drum there while we're looking at the street. We'll be romancing the women's fuck of the town. Let's be honest. Let's be absolutely fair. You'd be cleaning out the latrines and you'd be thankful for it. Not with my asthma. Jarrell Kwanzaa has been given a two-match ban for his red card against Mexico.

28:14He will miss the quarterfinals and a potential semifinal as the red card was deemed a serious foul play. Well, you know. You want the big job, Burnham? Get your emails fired up. They're making it up as they go along, aren't they? Yeah. FIFA. That's the problem. Come on, mate. Let Kwanzaa play. All I'm saying is, is that Burnham? That's Andy Burnham. Isn't he a scouser? You can't quite Well kind of yeah You're getting confused With the fact that he was Mayor of Manchester Yeah but it's like a It's like a moss That grows on you A Manchester moss But that's not like That's not what Evertonian sounds like Alright then Do another one Alright Gianni Fucking That's another second Liam Gallagher Can't spell Yeah exactly Can't spell World Cup Without Quarled Are we sending Liam Gallagher in To turn over the card decision Come on now Make a Northern World Cup For us for just those northerners fucking shite what do you want else to say I forget where we're at to be honest what I want to say I want Andy Burnham if you're going to be a proper prime minister you need to be emailing Gianni that's what I'm saying maybe he is maybe he is Gianni Infantino doesn't know who he is I wouldn't have thought because Gianni Infantino only knows people that can advance him that's the whole point when people think about Infantino being corrupt and all the rest of it accuse him of all this other stuff Ultimately, his MO is to just be with people who can make him more powerful or make him wealthier.

29:41So if Burnham's got nothing to offer, then it's going to be very difficult for him to get any traction with him. But all I was just saying was that if it is a two-game ban for Qantas for that challenge, fine, if we've decided that's what the rules are, fine. But let's apply the rules across the board, right? If it's a serious foul play red card, and it's two games, and there's no... and inexplicably FIFA have got no mechanism to appeal it during the World Cup situation, we all have to take our medicine, then it's fine. But let's all take our medicine, as we were saying. Let's all drink the Kool-Aid in the Belize rainforest and all die, or let's not self-exclude ourselves from these sort of processes because we don't feel like it.

30:23That's the problem. The problem for me isn't that Kwanzaa has been given a ban. If that's how it is, that's how it is. But the problem is that it's not being applied consistently. So I don't think England should, With the greatest respect to Jarrell Kwanzaa, I don't think England should get too het up by the fact that they've lost a player for a couple of games. I was going to say, yeah. Certainly not a player of his standing. Because he's broadly, he's fine, but he's not going to hinge on him or not. Yeah, individually, I'm not too bothered, like you've just said there. It's the process. It's just how everything's gone around.

30:52Well, it seems that like, what a difference a day makes, because yesterday it was, you know, Rhys James didn't take part in some training, Declan Rice, Matt Gay, and then that was two days ago and then yesterday all things are pointing to at least Rhys James taking part in England's training yesterday. So Rhys was because he was ill though, isn't it? Oh, right, okay. He's not caught the Norwegian flu, has he? I don't know, but it's not to do with his hamstring. Right, okay. He's been ill and yeah, James is, they say that, I mean. Rhys James seems to be like, he's in pieces, Rhys's pieces. He's not in Rhys's pieces.

31:28He is in Rhys's pieces. I think that the reality is he's not going to play the court final. So it'll be Konza, not Kwanza, not to be confused with Kwanza. It is confusing, isn't it? Or Jed Spence. The aforementioned Jed Spence, who loves Harry Kane. I think that this problem has been highlighted throughout the tournament, right? He's going to have had a weird relationship with right-backs. I mean, of Tuchel's own making. As soon as the squad was announced, everyone was kind of... I mean, there was obviously... The first thing that fell, the first brick that kind of fell, was the liver mental injury.

31:59and everybody was kind of like oh well I didn't expect that to happen did you? and then obviously Rhys James ends up getting injured as well and then but when Rhys James played I thought he didn't look like usual Rhys James he looked a bit uncomfortable on the ball and such and that's what that's what you want from Rhys James so if you're playing Rhys James at fullback then you want him to use the ball really well and build play and he wasn't really doing that and then the injury happened and everybody's like ugh do you reckon he wasn't fully fit in the first place? definitely not okay right I don't think so I don't think so I just thought but then And obviously there's just Tuchel's outright here for Trent Alexander-Arnold.

32:33Yeah. Well, to be fair to Tuchel, what I would say is he does seem to hate Jed Spence as well. He does. Shouts at him all the time. It's different levels though, isn't it? A friend of mine is a Chelsea fan was saying that like, he went to Stanford, seems to get at Stanford Bridge, said that Tuchel seemed to identify two or three players on like a rotational basis that he would scream out in the touchline every single game. Right. So I think it's just part of his, part of his attractive style. It's kind of like me here, isn't it? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. overbearing screams but we'll preview the England game tomorrow right we will yeah a little touch on the place where England are training you won't be hearing on tomorrow's show is that they're at the Swarp Soccer Village which is very interesting they were criticised for using this soccer village earlier on in the tournament apparently for some reason in my mind because we had the Viking chat it's like a medieval village maybe yeah like vanquished foes in like big sort of what do you call those things where you burn bodies and stuff.

33:30That kind of cage thing. The cage thing. I was thinking more like heads on pikes. Heads on pikes. I was thinking like that medieval times restaurant in America. Is that Celine Dion? Yeah, that thing. Yeah, when you get the flagons of... Yeah, okay. Big drumsticks. Like oversized drumsticks. And you have to call the person bringing you the drinks. The serving wench. Prithy! Prithy! Prithy serving wench. That's what Pete does in the pubs. I do, yeah. He walks to the pubs. Ask for me IPA. Excuse me, IPA for crying out loud. I've been reading some reviews about the Swap Soccer Village on Google. Apparently Sophie says there is no hand sanitizer for kids.

34:06No wonder Declan Rice has got a sickness. So some of the younger players will not have a good time. Well Declan Rice is clearly ill because of that. Yeah, exactly. Ryan Haley said my team lost 2-0 and I'm mad. That'll be Declan Rice again on Sunday. Alex Guho said my dog ran away. One star. Has he found the dog? Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to go down to my lefty cat story. I would like an update on the story. And finally for now, somebody commented, one star, a field marshal drove across the field in a golf cart during the game right across the middle. That's quite an American story. I know.

34:42Can you give an establishment one star because your dog ran away? That seems to be harsh. It's your personal responsibility, isn't it? Why are you taking the dog to the soccer village? They're just going to be distracted by the golf carts and the balls, aren't they? Did you see the diving competition in the England camp, by the way? I haven't seen it so people were having basically a dive off wasn't it Anthony Gordans was terrible he sort of over rotated and sort of flopped was it off a board? yeah was it off a board? it was a small board it wasn't too hard was it flexible wooden board or was it flexible like white right well Anthony Gordans just absolutely flopped but Big Dan Burns was excellent wow really good form salmon was it yeah But with how John Henderson broke his wrist, you do sort of worry about a man his size.

35:31I was thinking about that when they were jumping in. Going in a two-meter pool. I don't think enough's been made of how bad that break was. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a proper like snapping half break. Yeah. It was... Was it his wrist that actually went in the end? They say it was, but it looked like it was It looked like it was elbow, wasn't it? Because it was the same thing that my elbow kind of did when I broke my elbow. Yours wasn't as bad as that. Yeah, it wasn't as bad. Yours was doing a Klinsman dive, wasn't it? Yeah. but like his his arms sort of like over rotated and to me the footage looked like it just snapped yeah but he's had the surgery now hasn't he you give it a thumbs up in the hospital surrounded by the surgeons why is his why is his bone so weak I sometimes wonder what the level of fame is that you need to have to look famously quite arrogant surgeons yeah will stand around do a fight with you yeah because if I said that if I had my arm broken and they performed surgery on me I think they'd be like fuck off we're going we'll get more work to do yeah you have to be I was going to say he had the whole team around the surgeon always the NFL players do NFL NBA players always do it they're posing with a full team and everything like that it's like okay so I don't think he'd make the grade Luke sorry no I wouldn't definitely hopefully I won't break any more bones yeah I mean before we move on to a spin of a Belgium there's a lot of love online for your picture painting that you did that bit of social media a clip from probably about four months ago you painting a picture about Big Dan Burns that was May 2024 May 2024 it was two years ago I didn't actually put it on Instagram I don't know how to do that it was the guys I'm just a bit you're kind of ruining Dan Byrne for me can you stop please well I said to Marcus in May of 2024 before the Euros we should be looking at him he's versatile he's big and strong at set pieces the game is going that way you know those of us who those of us in the industry David we saw the way the game was going before last season and we could see that he'd be a key player and now he's doing his thing Marcus was very against big Dan Byrne in the England squad I remember me and Andy Brassel tried a one-two punch on him and he just wasn't having any of it because the thing with Marcus when it comes to England is, he's a bit like Sven back in the day, right?

37:26He models himself on Sven. He's got his favourites. If your face don't fit, he's not interested. Yeah. He's not interested. He would like probably 12 or 13 players, England players, to have 150 caps each. And that's his close club. Sometimes it takes him a while to welcome new people in. What would he talk about on the Live England previews, though? It's true. If there's no chat about squads being announced. If you only know the squads. If you've not listened to them, all they are are immediate suggestion players and Marcus going, nah. Nah. Nah. No, I'm not. Not me.

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39:33Tonight at 8pm BST the best tea Spain vs Belgium Belgium 8 o 'clock is pleasing 8 o 'clock is pleasing it's a nice time for parents of toddlers it's an honest time the bedtime's gonna be done the bedtime's done It's not going to finish so late that you fall asleep. Hello, France, Morocco. Eat it with a bad sausage. Eat it with a bad sausage. Eat it with a bad sausage. And a pot of gravy and a pot of curry. David, just absolutely go to town with it. Do you think, could you give Belgium a chance here? Yeah, definitely. Do you do? Because you know the Athletic run a poll. I saw it before we came in.

40:05And who do you think, who's more likely to win Spain or Belgium? 84 % I think of Athletic subscribers. These are people who care enough to pay for it. Do they know football? think they know football like me to threaten to pay £9.99 and then they go oh please come you want£9.99 and then go they've always got offers on you get it for two quid I heard that with Sky TV yesterday did you? 20 year long customer threatened to leave did you beat them down they couldn't do enough for me they're paying me for it now I got a little discount but anyway 84 % of athletic subscribers who voted said Spain not giving Belgium a chance and Belgium haven't looked great until they played USA who I think as you guys mentioned at the time, I wasn't on that show but as you guys mentioned, just shit the bed massively.

40:53Have we seen enough from Belgium to think they can trouble Spain because Spain have looked all right? Yeah, defensively they look really solid. Exactly. But the problem is on the break they can still be caught, they really can. You've got to give Belgium a bit of a chance here and everything. I think sometimes Spain can kind of overcook it, leave themselves a little bit open and it's just a case of a team trying to go at them and get at them. And I think it'd be interesting to see if Doku's brought back in to start, because obviously some of the major changes that Rudy Garcia has made has been dropping big names and turning things around.

41:25And I don't think you start Doku, or maybe if you think Spain are perhaps tired from having a lot of possession and what have you, you bring on Doku. You bring on Lukaku. He has to play Doku. He has to play Doku. And he has to bring Lukaku in at a really key time. And they're players who can trouble Spain, I think. And again, you'd maybe look at Spain and say, Have they really been tested yet? So I think they're absolutely vulnerable in certain positions. And look, Yamal has an interesting tournament because there's been a lot of the big stars have really turned up in this tournament. But Yamal's not one of them.

42:00I think he's struggled. And you have to look at him at some point and say, surely he's going to do something. He's running out of games here. This perhaps might be his moment tonight to do something. But otherwise, Spain are struggling to score goals, as usual. by the time he got onto the pitch he did change Spain a little bit he attracts attention at the very least he does, he draws two, three players away absolutely and I think Ferran Torres was brilliant when he came off the bench as well and he opened up the game so they've got players to open it up as well but I think now when you look at Mbappe doing things for France and such and Messi obviously for Argentina you need Yamal to provide a bit something because I'm still not fully over on Ayatollah he's got 15 years on him each one of them 15 years on him The thing I find with this matchup is that you've got Spain who are very systemic, and you've got Belgium who are basically relying on something different from a player.

42:52So is Lukaku going to batter his way into a goal? Is Tielemann going to hit one from distance? Is Doku going to provide a bit of magic? Can De Bruyne, you know, pull out an amazing slide of all paths, one for the road, you know, rolling back the years? With the exception of like Trossard, they don't really have that many systemic players. it's really difficult to work out what they're trying to do. I think it might depend on a moment for Belgium. And if Spain don't show that much going forward, they've got a chance. But, I mean, the problem is, if Belgium do find a way to get past Spain, they're not going to beat France.

43:28No, they're not. And I think Spain have got, perhaps, weirdly, a better chance of beating France because they could frustrate France by just not giving them much of the ball. One thing you'd say about Spain, they're very good technicians, keep holding the ball really well, obviously. So if they can frustrate France, then they might get something. But you're relying on... Is it fair to say you're relying on an individual bit of brilliance for someone for Belgium? I think so. They're not going to do it by being a great team. It's going to be a lapse or a moment. It's going to be like, Spain have had a lot of possession and it's going to be a lapse when they're back for a little bit bored sort of thing.

43:56And they just took their eye off the game. So it's going to be something like that that try and breaks it through. But I don't know. Spain have beaten Austria, who are not there at all. And they were open for the kill, basically. And then Portugal, they're managed by Roberto Martinez. or whatever. So that speaks to itself. Now it's not on Marcus's watch. He inexplicably loves Martinez. Well, apparently he's in the frame for the use for the Scotland. Wow. More of the same. Steve Black with the tan. Can I just say, though, that's not a bad get for Scotland. It's not. For their level. Yeah, yeah.

44:27For their level. Oh, we have to mention Amadou Anana as well. Yes. That's got to be a miss. Because if you think of what he brings, I mean, he's obviously done his ATL, terrible injury, really sad for him. So he'll miss the start of the season as well. They're going to have to find a way of replacing him as well. Exactly, and I think it means Tillmans has to do a few more duties that Inanna would do as well, so it takes him off his main purpose. Yeah, I mean, we talk about how good Spain have been, but history's against them. Spain have only reached the semifinals once. That's a crazy start. And Belgium have done it twice, so, you know, they might get there.

44:59Spain have got the big fish. Yeah, they got to the semifinals when they won it in 2010. But did you see the talk on the round of 16 sheep quotient? Yeah, so what's the latest with that? So I know that the countries with most sheep per square kilometre have won. Have won in the round of 16. Unfortunately, last night's game, Morocco, France, Morocco had more sheep per kilometre than France, but France won. We will say. I just don't know what to think now. Well, maybe it's an aberration. I thought that was a stat you could genuinely hang your hat on. The exception that proves the rule. Spain does have more sheep per kilometre than Belgium.

45:36It does have a lot. I think quite a few are in the Basque country. By the way, if you ever go to the Bass country, if you're in Bilbao or San Sebastian, whatever like that, and you put on the local TV, sometimes it's actually as a sport herding them. Oh, nice. So it's very big in the Bass country. We used to have it here on the Sundays, didn't we? We used to have sheep. Yeah, we did. We used to have, what's it called? Look at Up. Countryfile. Yeah, but no, it was like the Sheepdog Trials. It used to be a big thing. Oh, yeah, the Sheepdog Trials. I think it's called Sheepdog Trials. The BBC used to show it all the time.

46:00It was absolutely mesmerising. Wow. Mate, it was mesmerising. The only TV show worth anything on a Sunday afternoon was Antiques Roadshow or something. Great show. I actually watched that last Sunday. Can I just point out that it's actually much more evening than afternoon. Alright, fine. It's important to make that distinction. If my grand's got a big pot of tea on the gore and a load of egg and tomato sandwiches. No, egg and tomato sandwiches. Is she still with us? She'd be 110. Is she still with us? Is she playing in the Belgian midfield or not? Sheepdog Showdown, apparently. Sheepdog Showdown.

46:40Much punchier title. Thanks, Rory. Did you see that Danny Carvajal, obviously left out of Spain's World Cup squad, he was pictured standing next to the TV, hand on heart, belting out, bellowing out the Spanish national anthem. Are you into that, DC? Patriot. Yeah. Big Patriot. I'm massively into his home set-up. Let me remind you. Have a look at it mate. Lovely garden. I love Danny Carvajal. He's got an outside telly. Big outside screen. Just living the life of Ryan. I love Danny Carvajal. I have a lot of time for him. I really do. It's a little bit like my one. I've got like a portable paddling pool for my daughter and a telly that I stole from the office.

47:18So very similar. And abs like him as well. You and him would get on so well. You're both absolute shithouses as well. You'd get on great. I could see you two sharing a bat of sausage like Lady and the Tramp. Yeah. Oh, love it. And then big Sergio Ramos coming later. Going to Danny Carvillat, are you going to give Sergio a call or what? Yeah. Get him over. Yeah. Get him over. All right, well, before we go, domestic football has started, gentlemen. In some countries, Shelbourne drew 1-0 with Celtic in a pre-season friendly earlier in the week. And we're mentioning this for the sole reason that my other match, Sean Gannon, was awarded a chainsaw by the sponsors.

47:56You must be quite jealous seeing that. You must know your way around a chainsaw. I've got one chainsaw, but it's one of those ones that's on a long pole so I can sort of look off branches. That's a hedge trimmer. Have you got to fly more hedge trimmer? You're trying to see you've got a chainsaw. It's a tiny chainsaw on the end of a thing. It's not like a little hedge trimmer. You know my mate Phil? He's a legend of that stuff. Would he respect it? Yeah, I think he would. It could do some real damage. He's a petrel. I could nick an artery. Is it petrel? Is it a good answer? It's a petrel. Good question, sorry.

48:25Battery. Is that? No, come on. He's got a fly more heads, Trevor. Exactly. And the battery was just right to play my first chainsaw over there. All right. I've got a concrete saw. Who's got a concrete saw in this room? Anyone? No, I haven't. Have you ever used it? Yes, I have. Chopped down a wall quite recently, actually. Chopped down a wall? It's that building terminology. Chopped down a wall. I wasn't strong enough to swing the hammer and knock it down. Chop it down. You're not moving on. Don't let that noise you make when you want to move on. If you do get yourself a chainsaw, which I think you will now because you've been taunted, make sure you get your Kevlar trousers.

49:04Yeah. Your Kevlar trousers, you need them. Not in this weather. You could kill yourself otherwise. Nah. You can't compromise on the Kevlar trousers. Have you got a tool belt? Yes, I did. Have you ever seen a chainsaw go into some Kevlar trousers? It's amazing. Well, we'll Google that after the show. Yeah, watch it. You'd love it. He won't know. He hasn't got a chainsaw. I would just like to say exactly. What would he know about it? it would say have you got a chainsaw or not you should not be watching this Kevlar Trouser content I just think if you are going to be if you're going to be a chainsaw sales house that sponsor a football match and give someone a chainsaw the responsible thing to do would also be to give them some Kevlar Trousers I hope they did because there's no way Gannon should be playing around with that chainsaw in his football shorts no it's a good point absolutely no way health and safety health and safety stay safe stay chainsaw safe thank you for listening to Football Ramble part of the Aircast Creator Network all three of us will be back tomorrow will we?

49:58well apparently so proving the game proving the game that's alright with you I'm looking forward to it yeah more Chainsaw Chat tomorrow Chainsaw Chaps Chainsaw Chums Chainsaw Charlies ta-ta

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