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3:52Luke Moore: I declare there will be joy, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble Preview Show. Bournemouth are off to Old Trafford and Brighton face Liverpool. It's Friday, 23rd of October. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Luke Moore.

4:02Marcus Speller: I'm David Carledge. And I'm Lucian Hunter-Raja.

4:17Luke Moore: Bottoms up, everybody. It's Friday. I'm on a Friday show we've got for you today. My goodness, it's raining, but our spirits are not dampened. Oh, hey, the weekend, David Cartlidge. It's just around the corner. It is indeed. We're going to start by going to the south coast, where our beloved Luke Moore is from. Not that particular bit, though, which has recently disgraced itself. Bournemouth. That's where we begin. They're off to Old Trafford on Sunday at 2pm. What's disgraced itself? You know. I'm not involved. Never said you were. Okay. Last time a South Coast team played AC Milan at home in this competition, the result was quite different.

4:56They could only get a draw. They could. They could only get a draw.

4:58Luke Moore: Against Ronaldinho, with Glenn Little. Yeah. Portsmouth were, Well, Milan was certainly a better side then, but take nothing away from Bournemouth. Yes, exactly, yeah. Paulsworth, very, very used to having Milans in the place. Yes, we are. Another good link. And we didn't have the luxury of a goalkeeper just getting himself sent off either, which was pleasing. That was strange. So Bournemouth beat AC Milan 3-0 last night. I know it's not the AC Milan of all, but my goodness, it's a big name. It's a big badge. And they've got Ruben Amarim in charge. It's nice to see him back on these shores, Vish, would you say?

5:30Marcus Speller: Yeah, yeah. It's a little bit... I mean, it's strange. I didn't like it. What's strange about a man... Do you miss him? It was like there was this... It was like he was called back to base of some kind. I don't know. But Fish, what's strange about a man being 3-0 down in the rain laughing? Yeah. Robbie Savage was upset about that, wasn't he? Very upset. I don't think any of the fans would like to see that. Do you think he got his magnet board confiscated customs? He cannot bring that back into the country.

5:59Luke Moore: I think after a humiliating loss to a, what is a smaller club, obviously, that's disrespectful, he's thinking, oh, thank goodness I'm going back to Milan and not Manchester.

6:10Marcus Speller: Thank God I don't have to do this again on Sunday with them. Yes, exactly. But Bournemouth were having a lovely old time. They were having a lovely old time. Changing around penalty takers, knocking it about. Do you think they're living their best lives? I think they are living their best lives.

6:21Luke Moore: They've had two big scalps so far in the Europa League. Obviously, Rio Sossi had away from home. It was a big win. Very big win. And now look at this. This is a statement, Victoria. I know Milan were down to ten men, but the way Bournemouth started the game was magnifique, you could say. Now, of course, Milan are the reason why Bournemouth wear red and black stripes. Because normally it's the English clubs who have influenced their teams on the continent. You know, you think Juventus being the obvious one. Absolutely, Vish, as is the way. But it was a little bit of a reverse because Bournemouth previously wore red shirts and white shorts.

6:53Luke Moore: But in order to emulate the 1969 European Champions AC Milan, they thought, you know what, we're going to have red and black. And finally, after all these decades, it's paid off. It was John Bond who did that, who's Kevin Bond's father. So Kevin Bond, who managed Bournemouth briefly as well, and was also spent a huge amount of time being Harry Redknapp's cab driver. Sorry, assistant manager. Get rid of that for me, will you? Harry Redknapp's tomato sauce finder. I spent about, I'm going to say, four and a half of the ten miles of the Great South run running alongside Kevin Bond. Did you? One year.

7:31Yeah.

7:31Luke Moore: Did you realise it was him? Yeah. Or was that the reason why? No, of course I knew it was him. Were you chatting to him? No, not really. Oh, that's a bit of a waste. Do you not like him? It's not that I don't. Well, no, but that's not the reason. Were you following him? Did you knock him black and red? The reason is because I was too exhausted to speak. Well, you were role-playing and you were like, I'm Harry Redknapp. No, absolutely not. Yeah. You've done that a lot of good times. At the time it was a very Portsmouth thing to be doing, to be running through the dockyard next to Kevin Bond. It's a very Portsmouth thing to do.

7:58Luke Moore: Very Portsmouth thing to do.

7:59Marcus Speller: Weren't Milan founded by an Englishman though? Yes, of course. That's why they're called Milan. Yeah. Genoa as well. So you know, Bournemouth were inspired by Milan, but Milan were created by an Englishman.

8:08Luke Moore: So the house always wins. The house always does win. You're absolutely right. Prem back on top. Still on top. Yeah, it was Division One back then. Doesn't matter. I think we knew.

8:17Marcus Speller: The spirit of the Prem was always there. We just only realised it in 92. At the risk of us sounding a touch frivolous, a massive night for Bournemouth, we have to say that. I do have to say that. I mean, the incredible occasion for them given their journey, where they've come from. It wasn't that long ago, they almost felt like the Football League. To be beating Milan in a competitive game is an amazing thing, right?

8:40Luke Moore: It was one of those European nights where, as you say, the occasion was not lost on a single person in that area. And the atmosphere and everything, just straight from the off, it was like, we're not going to be denied tonight. And obviously the sending off helps, but my goodness, they were front foot all the way. There's no Kruppi and no Scott, so they're missing their two best players as well. Kruppi's very close to coming back, I think. There's talk of him being back this weekend in some capacity. Yeah. A lovely third goal as well. That's the kind of goal where, okay, fine, 2-0 and Cruz, and obviously they're on top, but let's have a little cherry on top of the cake.

9:10Luke Moore: Pun intended. Absolutely. And good pun it is too. It's an excellent pun. So Manchester United will be absolutely exhausted by the occasion. Yep. You would hope so. Enjoy yourselves, lads. Yeah, we used to play Milan back in the day. Well, Michael Carrick, I mean, Manchester United, of course, you know, they're in the Champions League, Milan aren't. So it's Milan who are the ones who are lagging behind them, you could say. Definitely feels that way, doesn't it? It does. Michael Carrick is expected... I mean, this is where we are now, because this sentence is relevant. Michael Carrick is expected to be in charge come Sunday's game.

9:45Clocks haven't gone back yet. No, no.

9:47Luke Moore: They have not. And it depends what the players decide, surely. And an extra hour of pondering may well make a difference. Bruno Fernandes wasn't that far away from saying, I think he should probably be binned in the post-match, wasn't he? He was very, very vocal, as we spoke about yesterday. I wonder whose turn it is next as well. Yeah, it would be great to see. I mean, I think if you were going to say, I said yesterday that, I mean, Vish, we need to get your take, because you're the designated Man United sufferer on the show. I'm all right, but go on. He said to me on the way, and he went, yesterday's show was good, wasn't it?

10:15Luke Moore: I said, yeah, I said, glad that they got that out of the way for you. He jumped on the grenade for me. And now you're dragging him back in. Yeah, of course we are. He's here. We jumped on the grey, but there's always another grenade when it comes to May United. If any player had been, you know, is worth being able to say something publicly. I don't agree with what he said, and I thought it was unprofessional. But, you know, if any player could do it, you'd argue it would be Bruno Fernandes. But it is very, very difficult to see how Carrick survives this, right?

10:44Marcus Speller: Yeah, 100%. Ben, I always think with, if you look at how the sausages are made, and I think you talked about this after the Lissandro Martinez thing, but clubs go to a senior player in those moments after a defeat and ask them to do media. And it's often, you know, they'll brief them, but it's generally someone that they can trust who has a bit of credibility. And obviously Martinez, they had their fingers burnt with that and they ended up having to send out Tielemans as well for various other interviews. But with Brudo, they're like, if anyone gets it, if anyone clearly loves the club, surely it's this man.

11:15Marcus Speller: He went, oh, he said it. He's not even beaten around the bush. Get somebody who doesn't speak any English.

11:29Marcus Speller: I can't really see him surviving the international break, regardless of how the results go from here on out. I think we discussed it after the Martinez comments about this real sense of mutiny within the camp and to be fair, Martinez defended everyone in the room as it were, so the coach and the players and the fact that there's such a precise skewering of Carrick's tactics and what he asked the players to do. I'm kind of with you. I don't necessarily agree with how Bruno has come out and done that. It felt like he was having one of his, the first time he's had one of these like on field tiffs off the field.

12:07Marcus Speller: but everything he was saying was quite damning and Carrick's response to that when he said that, you know, when it was put to him that Bruno was saying that because Manchester United weren't pressing, they were giving up space, Como just hit them hard and that's why they were down at half-time and Carrick's response was, well, we pressed him in the second half and we still conceded. Yeah. That doesn't come across as... No, I agree with you. But he also said something that was really interesting in the press conference, I don't know if it was part of the same answer, but I saw a clip of Carrick saying directly to Bruno Fernandes, is.

12:35So I guess the way it happened is Fernandes did the flash interview, then the press conference comes a bit later. I don't know if they've had a chance to speak. They probably haven't. And it's put to Carrick, and he said about the tactics, specifically to Fernandes' comments when the journalist put it to him, he said, well, if you don't run towards your own goal and towards the other goal, you're never going to win anyway, or something like that. It was basically like chucking it straight back at him, saying effectively, don't worry about my tact is if you're not going to try. And that to me seems absolutely terminal.

13:06It has to be.

13:06Luke Moore: In a civil war between the two, Fernandes is going to win. Of course he is. But this is a guy who's potentially leaving as well. Like there's always talk about his contract as well. So it might be, he might be going as well. So maybe his attitude in that interview, he was really doubt, obviously, as he were, he's clearly suffering. But I think his attitude is kind of like, I'm done. I'm like, this is too much now. The thing is that we've seen this with Fernandes before and I understand that there has been talk and he's, you know, you could say he's approaching the twilight of his career, maybe, even though he's still got a lot to offer.

13:36Luke Moore: The type of character Fernandes is...

13:37Marcus Speller: I don't know about that. He's gone through a lot. Do you think? If you look at his minutes and the amount he runs, contrary to Carrick's rebuttal, I think this is... I mean, we're kind of seeing it in real time. He's just come off his best season ever.

13:50Luke Moore: He likes being a big fish in a... I know Man United is a big pool, but as in, in terms of quality. That's why he's not gone to Bayern or Barcelona. So you don't think he might just love the club? No, I think he likes being one of, or if not the main voice. And so where is he going to get that elsewhere? Not at the size of club of Manchester United. And so I think that it is damning. I agree with everything you said there, Vish, that Carrick's not going to last long. This is a different kind of situation to what we had with Martinez in terms of who it's pointed at. Because I think a lot of the players would have probably heard what Martinez said, and a lot of them might have agreed with it.

14:33Luke Moore: Whereas with Bruno Fernandes, you're a bit like, okay, what's that is? Because you have some who probably, like with any manager, you have some who maybe quite like the manager because he's playing them, and then that can cause a bit of disarray. It's a huge issue now. He's calling out the manager, and as you say, the manager's battered it back at him. I wonder if there's a little bit of, because you just zeroing in on Fernandes specifically there I wonder if there's a little bit of bitterness in Fernandes generally because he's had quite a for the quality he's got and for the ability and for the performances he's put in fairly consistently even when everything around him has been fallen to shit his career is not going to when you look back at his career he's not going to have been befitting of his quality that's what I'm hence my comment and not just at club level but also at international level because at international level he's never been the main guy because there's a Cristiano Ronaldo soap opera at United He's basically, wherever you think, I mean, Vischer's pointed back him having a really great season last season is fair enough.

15:25But he's not going to be realistically an improving player now. And so his opportunities to win big trophies are now going to be dwindling. And what's he won? I mean, he's won, what, an FA Cup?

15:36Luke Moore: League Cup. He's won a League Cup. He's won a couple of Nations Leagues and a Portuguese League or something. I mean, that is a sheer coincidence of timing. If he played at United, whenever it was, 20 years ago, he'd won everything. But look, he's been there for so long. He's had so many different managers. And that was my point. I think he likes being the main guy and the main voice. I don't think he likes it. I don't think he wants to be wheeled out there every single time and be critical of everything, what's going on. I just think he's got a degree of loyalty. I think he does actually genuinely care.

16:05Luke Moore: Of course, I think there's maybe that. But Luke, you were going to say something. Well, I was going to also say, broadening it out to the coaching situation that Vish was talking about, to me it feels like, although it's an unmanageable club, it feels like they get caught between two stools quite a lot. by which I mean, if they get an amazingly successful manager who's respected at a tactical level, let's just say for this situation, it might be Conte, because he's been linked, right? That manager tends to get really frustrated really quickly with how badly it's run, the hierarchy, and everyone interfering with shit, and whatever else goes on, the commercial considerations and stuff like that.

16:38But if they go for a much more malleable, younger, inexperienced manager who will put up with that because he's happy to be at May United, and he's maybe a bit closer to the players or whatever, as soon as they play an important game, they just get found out because they haven't got the experience. So Carrick got found out by Como because Fabregas is a much better coach. And because Como were so hungry, United just couldn't deal with it. They just couldn't put up with it. Like I said yesterday, it felt like Como were just, don't worry, but they're going to smash the door down. But it's not a one-off though,

17:07Luke Moore: this season. No, it's not. But the point being that, I guess what I'm trying to say is if they had a Conte in as the manager for that game, it might have been different. But sooner or later, it would have gone to shit anyway because there's no kind of cheat code to run, to manage in this club. There's no manager that currently exists that can put up with it all. Well, I'd say the last coach they've had, who was sort of the proven winner or whatever, I mean, what, are you going back to Mourinho?

17:30Marcus Speller: Yeah, I think that's fair.

17:31Luke Moore: Do you know what, in terms of Premier League wins? I mean, I'm scrambling through my brain now, you know, it's not Solskjaer, is it?

17:36Marcus Speller: Van Gaal's probably the only manager in that time who thought, you know what, fuck your philosophy, this is how this squad has to win games. and it's going to be boring. He's probably the only person who's been able to come in, maybe because at the time Manchester United weren't so reliant on their, I suppose, like marketing and advertising income, but he was the first person to come in and say like, sure, you said that's your philosophy, but there's a reason I'm here and there's a reason I'm not, you know, this wasn't succession planning, there just happened to be a vacancy here. I think the problem is always going to be, and you've spoken about it well this week, particularly after the Como game, about the difficulty of being a manager, and Luke's just said there about the different kinds of managers that you'll be able to come in.

18:19Marcus Speller: What, in my opinion, Manchester United need to do, which they're already quite late in doing anyway, but they need to recalibrate how they see themselves at the club. The problem is, in having a bit of realism, you know, on the football side of things, comes people living off the brand at the top end of the club, involved in the running of the other areas of, I suppose money making at Manchester United that rely upon the posturing of still being the behemoth that is Manchester United and that's always where the bind is going to be, it doesn't matter if Ineos are just taking over on the football side and you leave the Glazers to take out whatever they want to take out of the club, there is always going to be that conflict and I don't really see any sign of that abasing at all.

19:07And it's been compounded by the people who are involved, for sure I mean, you look at how it is possible to imagine that on paper, a British billionaire who is a fan of the club could get out of his own way and actually improve things when he took over the football operations from the Glazers who were doing a poor job. But he's made it worse. I mean, he's not going to get out of his own way. The decisions he's made have been really poor.

19:31Marcus Speller: He's almost reverse sports-washed it as well. Because he's got that role to be in a position where he's asked about immigration. Yeah, no. It's going to be all these mental clothes. Actually, since he's done it, Ineos' reputation has gone through the floor. United's reputation has gone through the floor. And Britain generally has carried on going through the floor because of him. The only people who have done well out of it have been teams like Bournemouth who seem to be able to get results against them. And speaking of that, taking it back to the game, I mean, United haven't beaten Bournemouth for ages, Vish, have they?

19:58A couple of years ago, Bournemouth embarrassed them at Old Trafford. It was 3-0 under Iriola and Amorim. Unbeaten in six. Against United. so I mean it comes to something when you're talking about Manchester United and you know I'm on the outside looking in I don't care about either club really but I'm of the view that United probably need to hope that Bournemouth are a little bit down the dumps after the adrenaline of last night European hangover and they struggle to lift themselves again but you know

20:25Luke Moore: Bournemouth haven't started the season that way but they've won their last game it's interesting that

20:30Marcus Speller: isn't it because of that run so they've won three in a row they've all been at home they haven't conceded a goal and it totally has totally changed the complexion of their start because if you look at it their defeats in the Premier League have come to Man City Liverpool and Chelsea you know it's kind of what you were saying before about how early things are and I think the one the only thing that might play in United's favour is the fact that midfield three of Christie, Tyler Adams and Lewis Cook have played quite a lot of I appreciate Cook didn't start against Milan but they played quite a lot the problem is it is early in the season.

21:05Marcus Speller: Clocks haven't gone back yet. They are very energetic and they could easily, that midfield three alone could absolutely blitz United. Also, think about it this way. What kind of three or four days in United are they having in training in the camp after what's been going on? They had a day off after Como. Of course they did. Half of them are probably still there. It's impossible to imagine, unless Carrick's doing, I don't think he's this type of character, so I'll be surprised if he is doing this, unless he's doing some kind of, you know, clear the air talks, let's get moving in the same direction type thing, which is almost like for a manager in this position, it's almost like the last roll of the dice.

21:41To me, this has got nail in the coffin written all over it. And Bournemouth are going to be on the crest of a wave. So the other thing about it is that it's going to be on TV. You know, if United concede early, it just could get really messy because they're just in that position, which is prime for it.

21:58Luke Moore: Well, Eric Tenhard gave an interview. But that'll help. This week, yeah. And he voiced his opinion. in the current situation. Marcus, think about it. The imagination of this. Some journalist has gone, right, I can really get after him. Oh, yeah. Someone got Ten Hag's number. Oh, we've all got it. We know he'll talk. He keeps phoning us. Yeah, ask him about Anthony.

22:17Marcus Speller: You know often when people go on Love Island and suddenly in the papers they're like, you know what we should do? Why don't we just talk to all of their exes? All their friends. All the people they've pissed off.

22:26Luke Moore: Yeah. Exactly what's happening. Well, according to Eric Ten Hag with the situation about Michael Carrick, and I quote, it is not the solution to dismiss him. 100 % not." You know, you see? He's probably still paying Ten Hag, aren't he? I was about to say, he was like this, wasn't he? Yeah, he's like in some kind of crack-den cat and he's got the bills. You spoke yesterday about Cristiano Ronaldo's CV, it was obviously making news around the world this week, and that measly fine of, was it 250 euros or something like that, or 250 drachmas, whatever it was. In the same interview, Ten Hag described Cristiano Ronaldo though failing to complete the famous run he made his players do after the 4-0 loss to Brentford in 2022.

23:08Luke Moore: So when he said, like, right, I'm not having that, you're going to have a little run after the game. And the next time you do that during the game. Ronaldo did two or three laps and he was like, sod this. I'd love it if Ten Hag was the character witness for the prosecution in that case between Ronaldo and the Portuguese FA. Well, actually, you've seen his CV, but when I asked him to run three laps, he only ran two, and that's a measure of the man.

23:28Marcus Speller: It was the most assertive thing that Ten Hag did at Manchester United. Can I say, it was,

23:31Luke Moore: let me say this. It was, yeah. Manchester United, a friend of mine pointed this out to me, that in that 4-0 loss to Brentford, the back four, Luke Shaw, Lissandra Martinez, Harry Maguire, Diego Dalo. Left wing, Marcus Rashford, number 10, Bruno Fernandes. They're all still at the club. Yeah, they're all there. They're all there. And it shows you that they just, I mean, Diego Dalo, A couple more seasons, he's got a testimonial or something.

24:00Marcus Speller: I have always defended Dallow because I feel bad for him. I feel like he gets unnecessary hate. But when he was presented with a special shirt for his 250th appearance ahead of this season's Manchester derby, I did think, that's a lot that is. I think Dallow was the one who had the shot that was going over the bar, the Kimpembe handball when Rashford scored that penalty. Is that right? I don't want to hate on it. Oh, really? I'm so shy. That's really unnecessary. But it shows you,

24:31Luke Moore: how long ago was that game? A few years ago. Again, if Manchester United have serious ambitions to win Premier League titles and so on, six, what was it? Six I counted there of the starters of the game. Okay, Bruno Fernandes is fine. Okay, but these are players who are regularly starting games still. It's the fact that the churn of the squad, yeah, you've got players in and out and so on, but that some of those who are not really pulling up trees are still very much starting games for them. Look at Arsenal from that. Arsenal under Arteta when they weren't winning. This is the closest you've been to criticising Harry Maguire.

24:59I love it. It's the closest you've ever been to criticising Harry Maguire.

25:03Luke Moore: It's Martínez that's a problem, really, when you think about it. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Luke Shaw and Maguire, you build a team on them as they've done so since 2022 and they were right to do that. Martínez is pissed off and he's got two English for each side of him. You don't know where he is. I thought they were by Romero. Yeah, exactly. And they got Rashford back and that was smart. You know, when are you going to support these guys?

25:24Marcus Speller: The funny thing about that is that Luke Shaw, Lissandra Martinez and Harry Maguire in the last three months have complained about a lack of signings. Yeah, well there you go. Almost to say, we shouldn't still be here.

25:34Luke Moore: Well, then we shouldn't. Exactly. Lucky I was Lewis Hall. Lucky I was Lewis Hall. Luke Shaw is of the position where he's saying, you can't seriously be expecting me to leave these wages, but if you were to force me out, I would go. You just won't force me out. I had a situation... David De Gea just had to stop playing football for a bit.

25:53Marcus Speller: I had a situation last month where my dad literally said to me, you can't keep calling me about this, call an electrician.

26:01Luke Moore: Is that giving you a luxury? By the way, just to remind ourselves how long this has been going on for, again, my mate Alan, who was sending me all this stuff, he was saying, look, do you remember One Matters blog, like 10, 11 years ago? And I was like, oh yeah, it's 10, 11 years ago. And he said, look, it was screenshot after screenshot of Juan Mata apologizes for Man United performance against Huddersfield. Juan Mata apologizes for performance against Chelsea. Juan Mata apologizes, he went, I reckon I can find all of the clubs they played. All 19 teams in the league that season. It was unbelievable.

26:38Luke Moore: And Bruno Fernandes needs to do a blog, is all I'm saying. He needs to get on the blog.

26:42Marcus Speller: The great thing about Mata's blog, though, it was like, it would be five apologies. and then like say in 2010, 2011 it was like, quite like Tame Impala. Yeah, I know, yeah. Just like random bits of like, oh, this is quite interesting music.

26:56Luke Moore: Yeah, straight, he's had his laptop straight on the bus after the game. Are you apologising to the fans? Yeah. Headphones in. Nobody talked to Juan. Yeah. He's doing it. Quite like the new Beach House record. Just listen to a new remix album. Oh, yeah. Apologising about Huddersfield. Yeah, sorry about Fulham everybody. Alright, coming up after this, Piss Samples at Aston Villa.

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30:38Now a well-placed source has told me that you celebrated the win over Borussia Dortmund in the dressing room by doing an impression of Chris Kamara. So good. Is that right? Lumbaleh Baba Jeff. Lumbaleh Baba Jeff.

30:51Luke Moore: What about the football ramble? It's the best thing he did at the club. It was, yeah.

30:54Marcus Speller: That's up there with the girl from Little Mix doing a Jamaican accent. Oh, that's brilliant.

30:58Luke Moore: Yeah. Do you want me to do it? Do you want me to do her doing it? Yes. Barred egg dick. That's exactly what she says. Exactly what she says. Nick, you were anybody? You'd have nobody ask permission.

31:10Marcus Speller: Do Mandela do your Jamaican accent?

31:12Luke Moore: Oh, no. Liverpool be Brighton, Sunday, 2pm. Let's get on with that. We were talking on Wednesday. We said this would be a tougher test for Liverpool than Villa Real in the Champions League. That was an amazing ding-dong of a game. Lovely ding-dong. Yeah, Liverpool obviously won that game fourth. They were not feeling their best side, of course, David, but against Brighton, they're going to have to be at their best. Even though Brighton were quite disappointing in their Europa Conference League game last night. Pretty much a second string, you might say, for Brighton. I was going to say they made a lot of changes and Herzl has pretty much kept the same 11 throughout this season.

31:48I think they're one of the teams, I think he's only made seven changes across the game so far as well. So I think there's only two managers who's made less. So you imagine all the first team will be back in for this and will give Liverpool a very good goal. because Liverpool are really susceptible at the back.

32:01Luke Moore: I was going to say, if Brighton can just do what they do, I mean, I know that their home form is very much the swarming and all that kind of good stuff. But I mean, against Liverpool, if they just show a bit of that, they're going to get some joy. I don't want to say that they're that bad, but I mean, Villarreal scored three goals for crying out loud. I know the first one was quite a bad error from Van Dijk, but they are there to be got at. I was going to say that those errors are occurring, and Brighton with the way they play, they can force errors like what we saw from Van Dijk against Villarreal as well.

32:33So honestly, I think they're really up against it here, Liverpool.

32:36Luke Moore: Yeah, I mean, how do you rate Liverpool so far this season? It's a funnier one. It's a continuation from last season, although I mean, Villarreal, you know, we should obviously give him a bit of grace because he's not been there that long and after last season, there was a bit of a, you know, sort of a G-ing up on the squad and whatnot. But they don't give off the vibes of a team who's only lost one game this season. No, I mean, that's it. I mean, they're fifth in 12 points. And I think a lot of the chat has been around the underperformance of big players, right? So that's why it kind of becomes more negative than perhaps it actually is.

33:09I think if you fold into the idea that Iriola likes to manage teams in a very specific way, if you look at his start at Bournemouth, it took ages for him to get going. Obviously, Liverpool's a bit more plug-and-play, a bit more ready, and they've started much better. He started much better at Liverpool. but a lot of the chat has been and as it always is with a club the size of Liverpool and particularly when they sign players the size of Barcola and Wurtz and to an extent Isak as well although he's kind of shaking it off a little bit but Barcola obviously went a long old time without contributing anything on paper to the games and Wurtz is still a massive question mark over him he looks far more suited to playing in Europe than he does in the Premier League which you'd expect so yeah I think they're better than perhaps the vibes suggest but there's still a lot of question marks over them.

33:57I think Brighton is an amazing test. It's an amazing game this.

33:59Luke Moore: Yeah, it is. Because Brighton have had, I would say, the biggest test Brighton have had this season is the Arsenal game and they smashed them. They were amazing. And if they've got that belief, there's a certain amount of intimidation about going to Liverpool. And Liverpool, of course, have players that can hurt you. If they can be really, really successful, particularly in wide areas, I think, against an Araka or a Kyrgyz, I think they might have a lot of joy. I think it would be a good game. I just think Brighton are brilliant. Would you have fancied this for the 4.30 instead of David's lot against Leeds United?

34:28Luke Moore: Yeah, I mean... Yeah, we don't need me there. Yes, I would. Although Leeds, though, may be a very good thing. You can still watch this on TV. Of course you can. So you're saying there's a kind of hierarchy where the 4.30 on Sunday is the game? Well, yeah, I mean, the way you were talking it up there, I agree with you. I think Liverpool v Brighton... But you're saying that Sky Sports normally select a 4.30 game as the game, or do they not rotate it around because they want to give coverage to different teams? I think there's a bit of both. They should have changed it. At the end of the season, they probably didn't know that Brighton were going to be doing what this is.

34:54I know, but they need to do with the NFL. So if certain teams are playing bad, they'll flex them out of that position and they'll move elsewhere. So they should start doing that. Is it not because Sunderland need an extra couple of hours because they're European travels? Are you saying we're all really hungover from drinking lots of tisky in Poland? I'm not saying that. You might say that. Brighton are away from home as well. Yeah, true. Yeah, true. Yeah, that's fair.

35:14Luke Moore: Yeah, maybe Brighton should play Sunderland. Yeah, okay. On the continent. No, please. We'll call it a 39th game. Brighton are closer to the continent, aren't they? They are. Ah, yeah. So a couple of X rounds. And what I don't like to hear is that Hurtsler still being linked with the Man United job. Yeah. It's the last thing he needs. Yeah. I mean, I think it is. I think it really is. Like, we talked about Man United. It'd be madness.

35:36Marcus Speller: The only reasonable thing to Man United going after Hurtsler is not to employ him, but get him to pitch to them and basically, can you just show us your scouting network? Yeah. Yeah, we'll pay you 15 million for that. Yeah. Yeah. Just sneak it out. Slow horses it. Nick it. Drop it off. We'll pick it up. We'll pay you 15 million for Tony Bloom's database. Yeah. They've done the young, cool guy thing now with Amarim, though, so they need to do something else. Yeah, he looked very cool with those magnets, didn't he? At Grimsby, in the rain. It's an Englishman next. It's Eddie Hall next. Yeah, he probably is, you know.

36:06Something they haven't done. That's a proper measure of how English football can reduce someone. Yeah. Because, like, in the rain, with those magnets at Grimsby, losing the game. Yes. And just basically the whole football community going, fucking look at that guy. It's just terrible.

36:20Luke Moore: But then when you saw him, when he just... Takes a million dollars. Exactly, when he just left the Man United job. That wouldn't shock me if Man United, after Fulham beat Hull, they'd go after Alvaro Alvaloa. It wouldn't shock me. That's where they are right now. You'd love that, wouldn't you? Well, you'd make room for brother Brandy. Anyway, so let's talk about his former side, Liverpool. Now, despite Alexis McAllister's good form this season, the club had in no rush to open contract negotiations. Because McAllister, every game, he's like, I've scored again, I've done that. he's like yeah one more one more performance you see what's going on here you've really got to earn this in Liverpool's last game of course away to Brentford they won they scored a couple lovely goals I mean that Munoz goal wasn't it a beauty the way it has proper chop that lovely goal Newcastle fans are fuming about that well why are they fuming because they were outbid for him by Liverpool and they missed out on getting him and they're also now quite shit right they have been fuming with them basically fuming with the winning goal because obviously that was a Andre Zag Yeah, exactly.

37:18Luke Moore: And them being outbid by bigger clubs. So basically, the reason Newcastle United fans will be fuming is because their best striker was taken by Liverpool and potentially a good player for them was bought instead of them by Liverpool. They got a good fee for Ezekiel.

37:31Marcus Speller: They were also in Vertica TK as well. They were. Bastards. I think you knew the answer to that when you asked the question, but carry on.

37:37Luke Moore: I'm going to be annoyed with Liverpool when they sign Josh King at the end of the season. Well, end of the season is quite ambitious at this point. so anyway Liverpool yeah so during that game against Brentford this is one for for you David a man kicked a rugby ball from a nearby roof towards the GTEC pitch you're a rugby man at heart aren't you oh I love it I love a bit of rugger is there anything that would be more West London than that even though you don't really associate Brentford that specific part of West London with West London that is a very West London thing to do defend West London's honour

38:10Marcus Speller: I'm not defending them I'm throwing them under the bus Brentford is basically Q Brentford is not people just do nothing

38:18Luke Moore: so across the river from Brentford Stadium you said the beautiful Q the GTEC is basically in Q there is a river that separates and I think the residents of the very affluent Q would like people to be reminded but it's more affluent than Griffin Park was there we go then you're going to do that, you're going to make that move you're going to get rugby balls, that's all I'm saying That was... Yeah, exactly. They share it with a rugby team, don't they? And the odd Peacock. I'm sure a rugby team plays there as well. Oh, they want to wait their turn! Come on, lads, it's half an hour ago! Start your game in a minute.

38:53Marcus Speller: They moved away from South Ealing and they're paying the price for it. With oval balls. I just talked at Brentford, reported it to the police, right? For what? Imagine getting in trouble with the police for that. Kicking a rugby ball. I like how they were looking into it. We've all seen the video of the guy doing it. Yeah, exactly.

39:09Luke Moore: It's not exactly the perfect crime. Absolutely ridiculous. Just to the bloke who did that, just sit down, have another pint of your own piss and don't drink. Through a sock.

39:17Marcus Speller: So it wasn't actually, if you watch the video, it's just basically a couple of kids who were just in trackies thinking this would be really funny because they've tried it a few times. Well, it wasn't funny, was it, Vish? It wasn't funny. No. We're not laughing. I'm glad the police were involved. Do you know why it's not funny? Because rugby's simply never funny. Yeah, but I think the ball was just choosing a ball that would go the furthest to kick it. I don't necessarily think they were rugby people. They're not purists, it's more practical. Because if they're rugby people, it's three o 'clock.

39:47Marcus Speller: There's a pub in Wandsworth they should be in. Exactly. There's a Fullers or a Youngs. Yeah. Should be in the slow new pony in the passing screen. Yeah. That gear's not going to do itself. It isn't. Right. Moving on from rugby. That's the first time you said that to us, Fish.

40:00Luke Moore: Moving on from rugby, but staying with piss. Aston Villa versus Manchester City. Villa face the league leaders. It's the best link of the season you've done. It'll be up there come the end of the season as well. Now Manchester... Sorry. Yeah, Manchester City and Aston Villa are two of the five Premier League clubs confirmed to be using smart urinals to track players' hydration. Look, there it goes. Down the throat and out the willy. Along with Arsenal, Manchester United and Ipswich Town tracking the hydration. What your urologist said last time I saw him. Well, basically... That was quick. It goes down the throat, out the willy.

40:33That's how it works. Yeah, yeah.

40:35Luke Moore: Don't worry about the middle bit. Each of the urinals has a touch screen at the top. Something to aim at, I assume.

40:41Marcus Speller: I always go to a urinal and think, God, I wish I could touch me here. I'd love to touch me.

40:48Luke Moore: Something that doesn't belong to you. Well, where you are given a choice, this touch screen, it gives you a choice to urinate anonymously, or it gives you an identification mode, which involves selecting your name or profile. You can find these in Young's pubs, of course. You can't. Sensors then measure the urine-specific gravity, the USG as we call it, the colour, volume and electrolyte concentration of the urine to send directly to the club's medical team. You also get an immediate green, yellow or red hydration score, with a score out of 100. I actually love this. I think it's so funny. I remember being at Aston Villa once at the training ground.

41:26With me? Oh, not with training ground.

41:28Luke Moore: We had a tour of the stadium once, didn't we? We did. I went to the training ground with Lawrence McKenna. Oh, lovely to hear his name. to do a shoot there. And they were, and I was surprised at the time. You can't make sense given how important hydration is, particularly professional athletes. Oh, yeah. But at Bollymore Heath, they had signs everywhere saying, Piss here. Saying, your urine will be checked at regular intervals through the day or whatever. And if it's not the colour it needs to be, there was like fines and stuff. The players would get fined. So they're obviously massively hot on it.

41:56I guess this is like a technologically version of it.

41:59Luke Moore: David's shaking his head. It's just shaking. What are you doing, man? No, it's wheeze. I was going to say. That's brown. I know. You're shatting the urinal, you dirty bastard. You're getting a fine for that. Don't go to the toilet with cartilage. Why do you need all this? If you take a piss, you see your piss is quite yellow, you go, oh, I'll have to drink some more water. Yeah, but maybe they're not doing that. You've got a load of boffins sitting somewhere. Watching your piss. Watching your piss. Oh, dirty bastard. I know what you mean. There is a limit of modern life where things just keep getting invented.

42:26For no reason. I don't need this. I like it, but I get what you mean. Everything was fine before.

42:30Marcus Speller: But I think this is something that's been invented by the buffins so they can be less involved. Because that sounds like it's all just done on its own in a normal urinal. They're just sick of being handed piss. Yeah, they just want to look at it on the screen. They don't want to be looking at other people's piss all the time.

42:47Luke Moore: Yeah, that is a fair point. I'm storing it next to my lunch. What score do you reckon you guys would get out of 100? Generally how I'd rate it down. Right now, this morning, would you say? You've had, what, two quarters of a... two quarters? Three quarters of a glass of water?

42:59Marcus Speller: I'm doing alright, yeah. I'm generally pretty good. I'm generally pretty good. I'm good. I'm at like a six litres a day, man. Six litres a day. Water, not piss. That's actually... That's too much. NHS recommend two to four. You'd be dead if you had six litres a day. Yeah, generally, I'm six litres a day. Don't be like that. It's the only thing I drink, apart from coffee. That's absolute bollocks. I've seen your Instagram.

43:20Luke Moore: The day after, though. I'm seven litres a day. Yes, Marcus. Marcus is better than you, Jervish. That's fine. I just piss all the time. Yeah. So there we are. But do get your water, everybody, because we don't want yellow. Well, send pictures of your piss into us at Football Ramble. Don't do that. Pete's going to do this, isn't he? He already does.

43:42Marcus Speller: What's his personal Rambler email address? Don't give that away. But I'm sure you can guess it. Where does he live?

43:50Luke Moore: He lives south of the river. Right, Aston Villa, Man City. I think there's a game happening. It's going to be a piss joust between these two. And Man City, I mean, they've been very good seasons. Imagine their piss. Yes. They've taken the fucking piss, not given it. Yeah, there we go. Nicely done, Luke Moore. Thanks, mate.

44:06Marcus Speller: Mine was libelous. Yeah.

44:10Luke Moore: David, how do you see this one going? I think Villa will win this. Do you? Whoa! Whoa! Their record's really good against City as well. I think they won the last four of the six. Have they? So, yeah, I think they're really strong against City. They'll give them a game. Man Zambi's looking outstanding as well. Yeah. I don't particularly rate City. So they're there to be got at. Well, I mean, you said that they've won seven out of seven. Yeah. Do you understand why I've mentioned that? David, what's going to happen now is you're going to need to justify what you've just said. Yeah, because when you say they're there to be got at, and I say, well, okay, okay, but they've not conceded that many goals.

44:45Luke Moore: They've scored a lot and they've won seven out of seven. I just maybe unpack that. Yeah, yeah, no, of course, justifiably. So, no, they've just not blown me away in what they're doing. I don't think they've had a proper test yet. And I think they're there to be got at. you know I don't really rate Maresca as well. So I think Villa's the sort of... Well, the proper test they've had was against PSG in the Champions League and they failed it, right? Did you say that? Yeah, I'd say so. Absolutely. I just think they're there to be... A lot of people fail that test against PSG, to be fair. To be fair.

45:12Yeah, and I think Villa's the sort of team who can really rattle them, especially with the way they're playing right now. It looks like it's starting to click between Manzambi and Jackson as well. I mean, as long as Jackson doesn't keep getting caught offside, then yeah, I think they'll give them a good game.

45:23Marcus Speller: Do you think there's a bit of Villa that... I've quite enjoyed watching them, partly because they were always going to be interesting, you know, due to the rebuild that had to go on. But they... I've really enjoyed watching them because they're very rough around the edges, almost typified by Jackson as well. But I feel like they're a little too rough to be able to do a number on Man City. I can't... You know what I mean? I can't quite put my finger on it.

45:50Luke Moore: No, I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

45:51Marcus Speller: Like a piss urinal. Yeah.

45:56I think they're exciting and unpredictable enough to do so. So like M-Bai is the sort of player, pretty unorthodox, who can just really get at City in a different way that other teams set up against City. Yeah, fair, fair. It'd be a good game. Villa, obviously, traditionally, if you take a larger sample size, are brilliant at home. I kind of do get the point, because if you think City, they snuck past Coventry. Was it 1-0? That's what I mean. They snuck past Ipswich as well. A bit of a ding-dong with them. Snuck passes maybe pushing it. It was a ding-dong of a game, though. Was it 3-2?

46:30Luke Moore: 3-2 in the end. I sort of take your point. It's a bit extreme. At some point, we have to think that they're going to get punished for cheating. And if that happens, their season could go to shit. So maybe Villa can precipitate that. But it's unlikely going to happen at half-time against Villa. What about between now and 12.30 tomorrow? I'd be up for that. Get it done. I really would be. Get it done. Yeah, get it all done. That's a play for eight men for the rest of the season. There you go. All right, coming up after this, a big chance for Big Mike Penders.

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49:19Oh,

49:22Luke Moore: it's a big one. Saturday, 5.30, Chelsea versus Tottenham Hotspur. Big Mike Penders is expected to start against Spurs after Emi Martinez's jawbreak, of course, against Everton. It'll be lovely to see him in nets, but we hope... We don't like to see a person with a jaw broken, do we? You cut me off there. It sounded like I was a bit like, yeah, so sod that, you know, sod. I think with Emi Martinez we want him back soon but we do want Mike Penders to have a chance absolutely what I was actually going to go on to say it was poor timing by me but what I was going to go on to say was we don't like to see someone with their jaw broken but if there was a player I was going to pick to have a broken jaw outrageous I think Martinez would be probably in the top five would he?

50:01Marcus Speller: yeah he gave you such a good help for that and you still went with it nah fuck it

50:06Luke Moore: it's Luke's Friday as well exactly now Chelsea obviously if you go back a few matches. They drew it home to Hull. They lost 3-0 away to Brentford. But since then, battered Bournemouth and had a good win away against Everton. Sort of climbing the table. They're putting performances, you know, the last two certainly. The performances that we thought we'd expect from this Chelsea side. You know, it's a great going forward. Out the back is somewhere or something they're going to have to look at, Fish. Well, I mean, Asda, obviously, one goal they've conceded in those games. Not the best opposition.

50:36Luke Moore: I mean, Bournemouth have done well the last few games. But again, they've not had a great start to the Premier League season, and Everton not scoring a lot of goals themselves. Against Tottenham Hotspur, can we call them a rejuvenated Tottenham Hotspur after their victory against Coventry City?

50:49Marcus Speller: Yeah, we probably can. We could probably extend that to how they finished the game against Manchester, well, how they started and how they finished the game against Manchester United as well.

50:57Luke Moore: They do look different since the international break, you have to say.

50:59Marcus Speller: Yeah, Marbella seems to have worked wonders for them. I've never been, but yeah, they obviously came back a lot more refreshed. Madison had an exceptional turn. Yes.

51:10Luke Moore: He's already making a difference, as often said about Madison.

51:13Marcus Speller: So the difference, which was really clear, is the difference between having him in the hole behind the striker, and having, with all due respect, Conor Gallagher, who was just a little too far forward, and it's just like, you don't need to tackle anyone there. Get the ball and turn around, please. Whereas Madison, it's obviously much more natural to him. Spurs are quick starters, Chelsea are very quick starters, as evidenced by that Bournemouth game where they basically won the game in the first 25 minutes. This should be quite held skelter. I suppose Chelsea generally are at home and they generally are at home against Spurs.

51:49Marcus Speller: I think their record is, I think they've won the last 16 or something stupid like that. But I think Chelsea are going to win this. I think it would be, it will be a defeat that Spurs won't necessarily rue to a point because they have such a bad record against Chelsea. But I think it'll be a very entertaining game worthy of the 5.30pm slot on a Saturday. Very worthy, David, you have to say. Yeah, definitely. I think Chelsea should win this at the Canter, really. Maybe three or four. Spurs were better against Coventry, but the bar's really low. I love the boldness of having David on. Because, like, Jim, Vish and Pete are great.

52:23You never know what Pete's going to say. But Jim, Vish and you, Marcus, you're all a little bit lily-livered when it comes to making big shouts. That's bollocks. I just said Chelsea would win. Yeah, he said Chelsea would win. And I, you know... Oh, Chelsea will win for the 450th time in a row against Spurs. Yeah, so how is that a big shout? David's shout is, say, three or four. All right, fine.

52:39Luke Moore: Hang on, hang on. I think Brighton are going to win the league. How's that for a bold shout for you?

52:43Marcus Speller: More like it. Fuller, we're going to get Champions League. Well, they're not going to win the league. Also going to get relegated. They're not going to win the league. Because Man City, you're innocent. Yeah.

52:52Luke Moore: Oh, yeah, that's the bolder shout. Their appeal is going to be successful.

52:57Marcus Speller: Don't clip that. What am I like? We've just satirised the whole YouTube generation of creators.

53:04Luke Moore: Anyway, David, you were saying that you think it's going to be a draw. No, you were thinking Chelsea shouldn't have a problem.

53:10Marcus Speller: Do your Adam Johnson stuff.

53:13Luke Moore: Come on. There's no way Tom's going to let you get that way. Why not? He just won't. He just won't. Just don't know what I'm going to say, do you? I saw him score a hat-trick at Craven Cottage. Do you not think Spurs can put up a fight against Chelsea, David? The last couple of games, they've been decent. They've been okay. They've been better, but I mean, the bar's incredibly low. Well, Man United and Coventry. And Coventry had a lot of chances that game. I thought that scoreline flattered Spurs a little bit because Coventry were very, very good for large spells. Spurs still had a bit of calamity in them as well.

53:43They still look like they find their way. And it was all nice and everybody was having a good time and everything like that. Madison was playing. Kulovetsky came back. Yeah. I felt like, you know, look. It was a bit overblown, right? I was at the game on Monday night and I think that it was, what was the most interesting part of it for me, it goes down as a 3-1 win on paper. obviously Ben David scores very late and the whole thing becomes a little bit of a circus not a circus like a little bit of a kind of celebration no I think circus I thought circus was my part yeah Kudus Efki let's go with circus Kudus Efki came on first time in almost a couple of years everyone was pleased obviously I was delighted of him as well what he's been through and everything he'd be very hard-hearted not to be appreciative of that but I mean for me it was surprising how long Coventry stayed in the game like Spurs still look quite soft-centered it was interesting they switched to three at the back which deserve to hasn't done that much outside of when he was at Marseille maybe.

54:34That's right, yeah. And that seemed to work in a more coherent way. I just felt, being at the game, that Coventry lacked a bit of belief. I think if Coventry had a bit more belief, they might have been going to get something out of it. I didn't think it was a new dawn at all for Spurs. But that's why

54:49Luke Moore: I know you're focusing on Spurs there, but that's why with Coventry, when they had their terrible start, we expect more from them. Just because, you know, from what you know, some of those players, some of the signs in the back. I was really impressed by Rodoni. He's class. He's brilliant. He pops up everywhere.

55:06Marcus Speller: If they had one more Rodoni, they would have won that game, I think. That's what I mean.

55:09Luke Moore: I think Coventry are better than what they've shown, and maybe what people think because of those poor results. But yeah, with Spurs, yeah, you put it like that, I mean against Manchester United, you know, pfft. I just wonder if De Zerbe is going to get them where he wants them. But look, you've got to start from somewhere. You've got to have a platform to build on. and getting a point when you're down to 10 men. I think you have to say it was all in all a satisfactory result. Listen, they've had four points out of the last two games. They'd be very happy with that. Exactly. But there's nothing in that, Marcus.

55:40I agree with David, really. There's nothing in that. But you have to start bearing where they've been. We've not seen anything from them that says they can beat Chelsea. No way. Not at Stamford Bridge. I do agree. When you put it like that, fair.

55:51Luke Moore: I do agree with that. I'll tell you why. Because they're all wrong for them. The problem with Spurs is they're very, very brittle mentally and physically. So, Madison scores a goal of great quality against Coventry. We know he's capable of that. He almost has the freedom of the pitch to do it and he executes it well and he deserves credit because he's had a lot of time out as well and it's been tough for him. But he's still a massive flat track bully. If they start in the middle of the pitch with him and Gray and essentially have, like they did against Coventry, and they have Tenali just trying to put fires at everybody, Chelsea will absolutely blitz them.

56:20That front three, there's no way that the Spurs can put up with that. Now, if they get blown away or blown to pieces, like you were saying earlier about Chelsea smashing Bournemouth in about 20 minutes.

56:30Luke Moore: Well, Chelsea will get an early goal. That's just what they do. And that is absolutely terminal for this Spurs side. They do not stick in there. When it doesn't go for them, they try things for about 25 minutes. And if it doesn't go for them, you might as well give up. But you're not saying, though, against Manchester United, there's just a little bit of evidence. Against Manchester United. It's been going down to 10 men, because De Zerbe himself was very pleased with that. How many times, Vish, have Man United given up a win against 10 men? It's definitely happened. Just say any number and we'll believe you.

56:57Marcus Speller: Yeah, I mean, they've done it a few times this season already. 17, obviously. United are literally the only team in the league who are unfitter than Spurs, and they managed to play them and get the draw. I get it. Look, again, I am agreeing with part of your point. They are doing better. You have to have a platform. They are doing better. Yeah. Come on. But also, Marcus, you also have to understand the first portion of this show, we talked about how uniformly terrible May United are, and now you're asking me to give Spurs credit for getting a draw against them. Down to 10, man. But it doesn't even need to be a big deal though, does it?

57:29Marcus Speller: Like, Spurs are likely to lose this game. It's how they go about this game that will matter. It's far too early to say that they've turned the corner. It obviously wasn't a new dawn when they beat Coventry. The whole point was it was just the first Premier League win of the season. But I think there's a lot of stuff that could work here. But we're having a conversation we should probably only have in January.

57:50Luke Moore: All right, well, we'll stop talking about it then.

57:52Marcus Speller: Wait for me to go to South Africa, then you can talk about it. Oh, I see.

57:56Luke Moore: We have to do the ashes again, are you? Yeah. Yeah, well, with being Mike Pendas in goal, I would say he's not the first choice goalkeeper. Oi, shoot on sight, lads. Honestly, that cliche, whenever you turn up on a Saturday morning, Sunday morning pitch, you'd be like, that's not their usual goalkeeper. Look at him, right, shoot on sight, lads. Never works. Is that Pete Donaldson in goal? It's interesting, because the mentality I used to have when I was doing that, was I was trying to do it in the air shot of the keeper to try and undermine his confidence. Oh, is that right? Yeah. It's very unlike you.

58:26Exactly. It's typically me.

58:28Luke Moore: Mike Penders, though, he's so tall, you hit it low, he won't be able to get down and save him. I will not talk about Chelsea keepers until they do a decent thing and recall Ted Curd from Lone. Agreed. Absolutely. They need Ted Curd back in the summer.

58:38Marcus Speller: Ted Curd and Mike Penders sound like they should be campaigning in flyover states, don't they? 100%. Oh, I like that. 100%.

58:44Luke Moore: I don't like American politics, but I like that. Yeah, yeah. I like that. Now, gentlemen, have you seen that former Spurs defender, Kyle Walker, he played for some other clubs as well, has admitted that he'll probably get his four-in-a-row tattoo removed if Manchester City are stripped of their titles.

58:59Marcus Speller: The way he said this is like, you know... Kyle, respect the process. It's an appeal to be heard. Imagine if that was the punishment the Premier League dished out. Okay, it's all fine, but Kyle Walker's got to have his tattoo removed. Who's had tattoos?

59:14Luke Moore: I want to see all your upper arms, your bums, your thighs. Who's having tattoos removed? It was a pay-per-view event. Ah! Super - No, you're talking. Tattoo Tuesday. Everyone's gotta watch it. Right. Ami Prime, get involved. There's a bloodletting, there's a big outpouring of a... Ami Prime. Get involved. That's what I would say. A bit of Ami P. Vish, you were gonna say something, or do you want me to move on to Richarlison?

59:38Marcus Speller: Uh, no, it's fine, but the way this story came out... Sophie's choice, that, innit? Listen to Vish, I'll talk about Richarlison. The way this came out... Tattoos or Richarlison? The way this came out was like, you know, when it's like when a new player, like a big high profile player is linked with the club and some dickhead goes and just gets a pre-printed shirt and they don't end up signing.

59:59Luke Moore: Did a Man City fan not get that with caca? Remember when they nearly signed?

1:00:01Marcus Speller: Yes, that was the one I couldn't remember. Gary Cook said that Milan bottled it. Yeah, that was brilliant. And look at them now. Where's Gary Cook now? Seriously, what is Gary Cook doing now? You carry on. You have a little look.

1:00:12Luke Moore: We're going to talk about Richarlison because he was playing for Spurs under 21s in the Jersey Mike trophy last week, of course. Spurs could do better than playing him up front against Chelsea, couldn't they? Or they could do worse, actually, is the expression. Freudian slip there. This week, he's accused the Brazilian presidential frontrunner Flavio Bolsonaro, yep, son of former president Jair Bolsonaro, of stealing his private island. Now, I thought, when I read that sentence, as I got to the stealing, but I'm thinking, what, sort of public land, or I don't know, sort of, some other things that I better not say.

1:00:45Do you reckon he's the first person in history to score in the Jersey Mike's Trophy and own a private island? Must be. Must be.

1:00:51Luke Moore: Absolutely. Yeah. No prizes for that quiz question getting answered correctly. Richarlison said about his private island, which inexplicably he owns, Neymar must have a few. Mustn't he? If Richarlison's got one, Neymar must have a whole. He's got a whole archipelago. Neymar's the reason Richarlison's got one. I want a bit of that. Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah, I need a buffer between my island and the land to do

1:01:13Marcus Speller: I'm just going to move on to my sister's island, so I don't need that anymore.

1:01:18Luke Moore: Richarlison said, I didn't want to sell the island to him. Because I didn't want to, these guys took advantage of the situation in court. We were sorting out the paperwork, documentation for the island's ownership, and they said it would take months or even years to resolve. Flavio Bolsonaro and this guy, Willa Tomas, went there, and in 24 hours took possession of the island. That's where the justice system has failed. I wouldn't have expected this from a Bolsonaro, if I'm honest.

1:01:44Marcus Speller: Well, to me anyway, it's clearly a targeted attack on Richarlison, given he was the only member of the Brazil team to be outspoken about. Oh, was he? Yeah, I remember they were all for him, weren't they? Yeah, to the point that... It was ridiculous. He ended up being a bit of a poster boy for the Workers' Party in Brazil. Ah, yes. Because, I think, ranging from all the things that fucking right-wing grifters, throw themselves at. So like, he, you know, Covid denier, Richarlison came out and said something about that, like loads of things about various civil rights as well. Richarlison's been quite outspoken about that.

1:02:21Marcus Speller: Constantly posting about him, which obviously he didn't like because they tried to use the Brazil team as a vessel for spreading their message, basically.

1:02:28Luke Moore: And Richarlison said, actually, if you look at it, it's not Leonardo DiCaprio chopping down the Amazon. As Jai Bolsonaro suggested. He may not have used the word chopping.

1:02:37Marcus Speller: I think Bolsonaro also described Covid as a little flu. Right. He did, yeah.

1:02:43Luke Moore: Flu... Fluinho? A little flu-mine-se. Everyone knows that the Amazon rainforest is way too old for the Ado DiCaprio anyway. No interest in getting wood from there. There's got to be a young tree in here somewhere. Anyway, the Brazilian presidential election between Bolsonaro and Lula is still ongoing. All right. You see, the TV debate was unbelievable. Was it? So some of the shots were like, Lula's crying, and then Bolsonaro's just in the background, just dancing and just trying to aura-farm, basically. Some really strange, surreal scenes. And then I think at the end, Lula was like, smashing his papers about, and then Bolsonaro's again, just dancing about.

1:03:19Really surreal stuff. I'm gonna check that out in a minute. Yeah.

1:03:21Luke Moore: Let's have a bold prediction then, Luke. Yeah, no. I don't think we're needing that date of the Brazilian presidential election on this show, do we? Where's that come from? We've got some good stuff out of it. Move on. Move on, crying out loud. Palmeiras though back in the Copa Libertadores final there we go come on Andreas Pereira you can do it this time former Fulham man alright there we are thanks for listening to the Football Ramble part of the A.C.L. Screator Network we're going to see you later for Jackson Encyclopedia it promises to be a classic and it's a big old grudge match it's a grudge match to end all grudge matches until the next one remember to join us live on YouTube at 9.30 on Monday morning where we review the weekend's action you can see our faces you can see our mistakes it's going to be great we look forward to seeing you then of course and it's live and it's live but before that Jack's Encyclopedia until then thank you very much Luke Moore thank you thank you David Cartlidge thank you thank you for doing Hantaraja cheers and thank you Charles

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