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3:15I get the Friday feeling when a ramble comes my way. Welcome to the Football Ramble Preview Show. It's Friday, 23rd of January. I am Pete Donaldson. I'm Luke Moore. And I'm the Nishina Hunter-Ager. Yes!

3:38Yes, it's Friday. I've got my Friday trousers on Those trousers They're a bit much aren't they Show them to the camera for the YouTube guys I think you can see it on the wide You can already see them can they I can already see them on the wide As trousers they're certainly not wide Exactly I'm sort of blending into the carpet But yeah I'm excited about Friday And I'm excited We can tell I know I'm excited I'm excited that Vish is back on the ramble as well Yeah well you had a bit of me yesterday I did I had a bit of me yesterday No you didn't No yeah exactly You're having your swing now Luke We would absolutely love it though if you were as pleased that Vish is back on the Ramble as we were and are if you could leave us a five star review for Crying Out Loud wherever you listen to the podcast it's a massive help to show and show us that we can help grow our big Ramble community in our big Ramble castle and also it means that more people will get to enjoy Vish's work so leave a five star review now and we will love you until the next time we need you to leave another five end of the season exactly it's an end of season love contract it's a loan with a view to it with a view to it if we play you enough it will have to go to a one year extension but we'll see how that one pans out so in the Europa Nottingham Forest started the evening hoping to secure a top eight finish but by the end they were stuck in a revolving door their car keys were locked inside their car and they've said you too when a waiter has told them to enjoy their meal they have absolutely stinker all three things of those have happened to you this week have they?

4:59correct they definitely happened to you in the past for sure Sporting Braga at one Nottingham Forest nil I mean just everything went wrong I think the social posts of the night summed this up for me. Dale Silvermat3 on Twitter. Missed penalty, own goal, red card, boot off the pitch. That's the Nottingham Forest that I grew up supporting. Very much the locking your two-year-old daughter in the car of a Europa League performance. Yes, that's exactly... I've done that, yeah. It wasn't a hot car. Just briefly, she had my car keys. She was playing with them. She... I don't know how it happened, but she...

5:33She pressed the button while you... Yeah, she pressed the button while it was... And so luckily she pressed the car open again button and I managed to extract that. Oh, she was just messing with you? Yeah, she was toying with my emotions in Cornwall. And as you went closer to the car, she just drove a little bit further. She wasn't in the driving seat. And then she got out and went, it's Friday. It's Saturday, Sunday what? But yeah, Sporty Raya beat Nottingham Forest at home. I mean, it was Morgan Gibbs-White missed a penalty. Ryan Yates scored an own goal, which he seemed weirdly happy about.

6:03And Elliot Anderson was sent off. everything was going off in this game, Vish Yeah, it was kind of you think of those three players and the triangles you make what they make in midfield and how useful they've been for Forrest in the past and then this was the Bermuda triangle equivalent of that where everything just falls apart Are they going to get Morgan off pens? Because he seems to be quite bad at them recently Yeah, I mean I feel like everything that works for Forrest doesn't work for Forrest anymore Wonder why that is Genuinely baffled as to why the part-time working men's club comedian, part-time football manager, Sean Dyche, who's been given a job way above his station, has suddenly turned the team into a bunch of fucking idiots.

6:46But if you look at like, if you zoom out and look at Forrest's run of results over the last, I suppose, let's say four months. I know they drew against Arsenal, but that's a real aberration. But it has the pattern of Dyche teams, doesn't it? Like a little bit of like, oh yeah, this is quite promising. and then like, what has it been? They've only won one in the last two months. It feels to me like he doesn't know at all what to do with attacking players. They don't even counter-attack anymore as a system. It pumps long balls. It's really, really chaotic. Two of those three terrible things you've described there, the own goal and the penalty miss, happened in 54 seconds.

7:28Yeah. And that is going to be fairly fatal to your chances. Yeah, it's almost as if like just sort of going, go on lads, win this football match isn't enough advice. No. But it's also almost like, look, if they don't have a single shot on target, there's no way we can lose the game. Well, there is. There is. You've managed it. Yeah, you've managed it. Ryan Yates, who scored the own goal, also did a classic in the genre of please keep picking me boss. I love to play games. Yeah. By saying, what we could do better is me not scoring an own goal for starters, but we have progressed a lot under Sean Dyche yeah hard disagree on this one please pick me you get the feeling that I mean Dyche is seconds away from getting the green jumper out at this moment he's got to he's got to find it he's got to six losses in a row he has to exhum it every post match he says we need to play quicker we'll make them play quicker then do you know what I mean a plan to counter attack as I said might be nice you get the feeling that Dyche does operate at his best in the relegation zone but he does need to drag his teams down there to start with so you're saying he has to be activated by that Yeah, exactly.

8:31Six-point deduction, please. Financial mismanagement. Thank you. When you're in the science class at school and they put that, I can't remember what it is, but that chemical in the volcano to make it erupt. It's like that. Did you ever do that? It feels very American. No, we did that. Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you go to one of those high schools? Well, Vish went to private school, so he probably definitely had to do that. Well, I mean, I did chemical engineering at university, so we had a bit of that. You had a really fancy version of it. Hang on a minute. It's a chemical engineering at one of the country's best universities involved you playing with a volcano at the front of the class.

8:57It involved us using chemicals that create that reaction, yes. Well, did you do that? Okay, no. Did you do the ash cloud? We did, yeah. The ash cloud. We got to mess around with chloroform in our second year. Oh, good. Oh, good. And the temptation was so, like, it was unbelievable. What, to get to who, though? Who, though? No, just like yourself. Okay, right, yeah. Better. A lovely sleep. An important clarification. Yeah. Because chloroform is quite useful in different, you know, things. I mean, I guess I've lost chemicals. Again, very poor. Yeah. Could you clarify that, please? I can't in these trousers.

9:28No, because you are a man who keeps tape in the back of your car as well. I do keep tape in the back of my car. Just be careful, that's what I'm saying. The rope, too much. And vials of piss. Not vials. Vials. I do very well. Although, sorry to derail this again, particularly to the production staff, but Pete did also get caught recently taking a piss in a bottle in his own car and tried to style it out by saying... What are you doing? He tried to style it out to the guy who caught him, the stranger who caught him, by saying that he was doing a diabetic injection. That's true, isn't it? That is true, yeah, yeah, yeah.

9:55How recent was this? Heathrow Terminal 5. That's the nicest terminal. Besmirching the Queen's Terminal. That's where Frank Champion did all her lighting there. Did he? Yeah. Oh, that's what you think of his work. This is why your daughter locked you out of the car. Not allowed in there. Sorry, you were in the car park of Terminal 5. Needed a wee. Famously no toilets at Heathrow. Absolutely needed a wee. You couldn't make it out of the car to the toilet? I was sore bursting for a wee. I wasn't going to make it to the... I was parking in the staff car park because somebody had let me stay in the staff car park.

10:29Terrible. You can go in the staff car park, just don't do anything weird in your car. If you are going to do a urination publicly, try and find somewhere quiet. Yeah, I'd make... The world's busiest airport is probably low on the list. I'd make a great trucker, I think. But you claim to have diabetes and they shouldn't be questioning you because you were doing your injection. That's why you had the trousers down the back of your car. Correct, correct. Yeah, okay. So it sounds like I styled it out perfectly Not really Glad you aired this on one of the most successful sports podcasts in the UK Lovely, thank you Speaking of set pieces Speaking of set pieces, Forrest are bad at them, aren't they?

11:07They cut out that bit at the start of Love Actually, didn't they? Yeah, absolutely, yeah Can you remember the last time Let's bring this back to the football But if you're a Nottingham Forest fan Can you remember the last time Nottingham Forest looked good at a set piece? they just seem like they just do not work on them at any point and yet in every other sense Nottingham Forest seem unable to try anything do you know what I mean? Probably the answer to these kind of questions off the top of my head can regularly be against Spurs maybe but they won 3-0 I can't quite remember the man with the goal West Ham but they won 3-0 obviously beat West Ham obviously fairly diabolical as well look I don't think it was all bad last night to be fair I know I've been critical of Dyche have been critical of Forrest under Dyche and I've given the reasons for that.

11:51They're very light up top. There was, yeah, I guess so, yeah. I think that's probably fair. But what I would say is they did have chances. The goalkeeper did well. The penalty save was good. We had a little debate in the office this morning about whether it can still be a good penalty and be saved. I would say no. Some of the guys were saying it can. It wasn't the world's worst penalty because of Brahim Diaz. But it was a good penalty save and the goalkeeper himself actually did make some good saves. So I think all in all, they've not been terribly bad in the Europa League this season. If you think of, I think it might have been Dice's first game in charge at home against Porto, was it?

12:28They won quite well. So they're going to go through to the next phase. It was one of those nights. It was literally a minute of madness that made the difference and that can happen in football. But I don't want to, look, I don't think it was all terrible is what I want to say. It was fucking boring, by the way. my god the amount of games we have to watch doing this show which is obviously a privilege because we love football is one thing but I feel like we are in the middle of watching quite a lot of shit games like now the amount of times I turn a game on on the midweek and it's bad like it was a bit of an effort to stick with this last night especially teams that are playing three times a week I mean we are reaching the petrol fumes of the season at this moment in time even though it's only January well it was so soon after the Christmas period as well true yeah yeah I mean he hit his own goal as you said Kim after he didn't react very quickly to that either I feel like he could have got to it yeah it rick has showed off him about 8 yards out I would kindly say that he didn't sort his feet out in time but he kind of did and still put it in his net but his brain didn't react fast enough to clear it he wasn't that far away from clearing it is what I'm saying I think he was surprised by his own lack of skill, I think.

13:46They are going to be travelling to Brentford on Sunday at 2pm. I get the sense that if they hadn't had 15 managers this season, Sean Dyche might be in a lot of trouble if they don't manage to win. Well, Marcus has said that he's fully convinced that Dyche will be gone in the summer if they stay in the Premier League, which, you know, they probably will stay in the Premier League, Vish, won't they? But, you know, West Ham obviously won last time out against Spurs. You know, is there a sign that they might start making a bit of a fist of it. You don't think Burnley will. Wolves certainly aren't going to do that.

14:18So it basically comes down to whether West Ham can reel them in. But I mean I would just say that if Forrest do get relegated this season it's harder to think of a bigger fucking dropping of the ball than that given where they were at the end of last season, right? Yeah, exactly. Especially when you look at the players that started yesterday. The players they've got! They've got so many good players. I mean, the fact that they've dropped off with the same players that got them to Europe is quite startling. I feel like all that needs to happen is for West Ham to look like they might catch Forrest for a decision to be made on...

14:53Yeah, and look, you could look at it this way as well. I mean, so West Ham play Sunderland at home first up tomorrow, right? Sunderland have been really good this season, but they're a home team, really, right? It wouldn't be a massive surprise. It would probably be a bit of a surprise, but it wouldn't be a massive surprise if West Ham beats Sunderland. And then Brentford, not if it's got to go to Brentford on Sunday. If that goes the wrong way, it's two points. It's not a lot. And there's so much football left to play. And you see how important momentum is going down the stretch. It really does tend to be all about momentum.

15:26All over football, really. I always think of teams going up into the championship playoffs. The amount of time you see teams just go on a run. And it's the same with relegation. you can just be sucked into it like a black hole so they've definitely got to be careful and there's just absolutely no excuse for it given the level of player they've got as Vish said I don't think last night was a disaster it's a poor result they've been okay in the Europa League it's a disaster mainly because they might be losing Elliot Anderson for the playoff in February right of course because he got sent off he'll be suspended yeah okay yeah well Elliot Anderson has carried himself with incredible credit really I mean he's been brilliant despite Forrest dropping off he's still been really good he's all action and he can do a bit of everything.

16:05He uses the ball really well. He's always in the thick of it. You look at his passing statistics and stuff, he's just always amongst it. He'll be playing in Europe next year. Yeah. I mean, as a Newcastle fan, you must be like, fuck, what are you doing? Yeah, it's absolutely good. But I mean, that's a cloth that must be cut for PSR. Because of PSR, yeah. PSR cloth. Which is what you had drooped over yourself in the back of your car. Mint it, yeah. You couldn't do a quick urination in those trousers. No trousers. No, it takes a lot of planning. pre-planning you have to book them in you have to book your toilet trips in it's like a servicing it's like a Ferrari getting serviced not a Ferrari is it to take an air filter out you've got to take the wheels off it's not a Ferrari is it you're referring to your own your own legs and cock and balls as a Ferrari correct yes a prancing horse shut up anyway elsewhere in the same competition Fenerbahce were beaten at home to Aston Villa Jadon Sancho's first Aston Villa goal was enough for a 1-0 win over Fenerbahce in the Europa League.

17:06His last goal came in the Conference League final for Chelsea. Of course it did. He's a Euro boy. Euro boy. I don't know how you feel, Vish, but this is a great example of players with odd careers, right? Jair Sancho, definitely. It's a very modern career, isn't it, I think, in football? It feels like a depressingly modern career. The other one I would just chuck out there on the other side of the ledger is fucking John Duran. Incredible, wasn't it? The fact that he's coming up against them. I don't know. They were talking about it on comms during the game, and I feel like they totally got the wrong end of the stick because they basically intimated that Villa sold him because the offer was so good.

17:43But actually, it was Duran that pushed to move, and they were like, fine, okay, if you really want to go, then go. And the fact that he's at Fenerbahce was like, this is too early in your life cycle to be in Turkey right now. But the Turkish teams do that. They sort of go, move not working out? Yeah. In six months, we'll take you. he's on low isn't he yeah but the fact that he went to Saudi Arabia and there's almost like a fast tracked version of what's happening in Live Golf at the moment right with like people coming back because they're like no one gives a shit about stuff yeah look I'm rich but I'm basically irrelevant now so I want to come back into Europe and play meaningful football and it was like I'm not saying that he's you know kiboshed any you know high end career he might have in Europe but it would require him you know taking various amounts of pay cuts and doing this that and the other and like it's just annoying being like you could have been leading the line for you know for Villa or any other team in Europe and obviously he's at Fenerbahce but Villa are among the favourites to win the competition yeah it was just very annoying it's very kind of like you're right to be annoyed at modern football one of the many reasons you're right to be annoyed at modern football is the fact that John Duran started that game off front for Fenerbahce yeah I don't think that a football player should be on loan in Turkey after spending a year in a footballing backwater for poor decision after having a breakthrough season in the Premier League and having a thousand yard stare at all he's been through and he's only 22.

19:11He'll clearly have a lot of road ahead of him because of his age profile and because of what he's done. But it's a strange situation. It really is. I thought he was fairly game last night as well. I actually thought he did okay. I also loved that Unai Emery got very carried away with Uri Tillemans when he sent him off. Yeah, so he subbed him off in the 92nd minute and then he shoved him. Like, Yuri Tillemans went in for the handshake and Emery just got angry and just shoved him. I don't know what that was about, but he basically explained the incident away by saying he's like my son, who I also shoved.

19:46Who I shoved five times a day. And if Emery is like my dad, then that's not really mitigation. No, exactly. But a good win for Villa, who you think would, as I said, they've got to be among the favourites for the competition, particularly given who their manager is, right? Yeah, I mean, you forget about that aspect. Alston Villa are playing at Newcastle on Sunday at 2pm. One exhausted team, one pre-exhausted team because Newcastle are going to PSG next week. It's going to be... Pre-exhausted. I don't think you can use that as an excuse. That is exactly the kind of thing Eddie Howe would say, by the way.

20:16You're pre-exhausted. I feel like it's a... A little bit of a Euro star. It's another super Sunday for... When you sort of see a so-called super Sunday in massive inverted commas, you do go off. They never live up to where they were. They certainly didn't last week. I think Newcastle-Villa is a classic Premier League game, though. Do you think? Do you think they'll raise their game? No, I just think it's got heritage. It has got heritage, but... If you look at this Sunday, you've got Aston Villa-Newcastle and then Arsenal-United. Arsenal-United is... Okay, yeah, that's it. No, Newcastle-Villa.

20:52That was the game where Bojo and Dier beat the shit out of each other. That was a long time ago. That's great. You can't argue with that, Dawson. And the Steven Taylor red card where he was shot. Oh, yeah, that was Villa as well. Was that the same game? Yeah, I think it was. The same game. For those who have recently come to football, he wasn't shot. He wasn't shot, no. And it was absolutely not the same game. Was it not? I thought it was. Was it the same game? No. Are you sure? Well, I've got the match report right here. Two Gareth Barry penalties and a fight between Kieran Dyer and Lee Boyer sent eight-man Newcastle.

21:25Eight-man Newcastle. You don't know. What was the final score on that match? That was 3-0. Not bad, not bad. Barry's second penalty came from the spot after Stephen Taylor was sent off for a deliberate handball. Wow. I mean, wow. Amazing. In the 73rd minute. 73rd minute. I could rescue us here. I could rescue us here. Imagine if they had like VAR and injury time. Good God. So Villavi-Newcastle is heritage, Peter. All right, fine. It's Premier League heritage. It should be a good Super Sunday. Should be. It should be. Yeah. I just don't think it's going to live up. Certainly that much. I don't think it's going to live up.

21:59You don't think anything's going to live up to expectation your whole life, do you? You don't ever think that. And yet you still woke up and put on those trousers. You still chose one. Dress to the attitude you want. Celtic drew two all away to Bologna last night. Celtic, I mean, listen to this tournament, man. Celtic are 24th in the table just inside the qualification positions. Get fucked, you were fucked. Messy, messy men. There's a football tournament. you wouldn't understand it right and your team are 24th in the table so you're going to qualify what yeah yeah it's based on the the really popular chess model oh yeah let's do that yeah they kept their position next to Rages 1-0 win over Ludigaretz so Celtic are travelling to hearts this is the Marcus Speller section Celtic chose hearts on Sunday hearts are going nine points clear of Celtic with a win let's move on coming up after this Manchester United the drama is coming to the small screen

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25:34For the first time in history, also, no Brit was arrested during the World Cup. Imagine, this is something really, really special. doesn't even work as a joke because no British team qualified in World Cup 94. It's a very good point. So, grow up Gianni. Yeah. The thing I hate most about Infantino, right, you've got the sidling up to Trump, you've got the corruption. The thing I hate the most for a reason I can't quite explain is that he suddenly decided that he's a comedian. Yeah. He's necessary. I'll do a bit. I'll do five minutes at the start. Don't leave me. You just watch me go. Yeah. Fuck off.

26:13You're like a corrupt, ignorant, football administrator that everyone hates. That is not the ingredients to be a stand-up comic. Yeah, but it is ingredients to be Davos' best man. He's a Davos! He's a Davos! That was a Davos! What's he doing there? Welcome back to the football round for Luke Sammon and Anurisa. I suppose he probably works in Switzerland, doesn't he? Yeah, it's a very good point. Pop along. Pop along. I brought me on Volavons. I've got my travel car, I might as well come. I brought me on Volavons. Yeah, Arsenal take on Manchester United. As you said, Luke, Sunday at half past four, a classic Premier League clash.

26:48Arguably the classic Premier League clash. Yeah, I mean, Man United following up their Manchester derby win with a trip to Arsenal. I can see why Ruben dipped out. He's like, what a set of fixtures. I don't want any of that. By the way, before we go on to that, do you want to know how much it is for a sandwich at a hotel being chose at random at Davos? Can you guess for one sandwich? What sandwich? It didn't list the sandwich. I think there's a couple of them all at the same price. 30 euros I reckon a decent club sandwich 30 euros that's what I've seen a club sandwich actually 50 Swiss francs which is 55 US dollars good god so I guess I'd say about 50 euros something like that yeah okay can we have it in pounds please Marcus is still here in spirit thank you very much if Marcus was hosting I would do it in pounds and I wouldn't even need to be asked can we have it in guinea I wouldn't need to be asked hold on 55 euros in Scottish pounds he'll do that Arsenal in bacon how much bacon can you get for that he brought his own bacon £47.75 for a sandwich that's London prices yeah is it you can't get out of prep for under£47 Arsenal are not I'm going I'm going to go to the game you're going to go yeah I'll be there I thought of the the stack Arsenal season ticket when they were saying that Kash Patel the FBI director this is good I think it was the New York Times has revealed that his I think it was a trip that's already been taken to go and see MI5.

28:13Yeah, there's... He basically sort of demanded to go and see a football match. Yeah, there's being shit at your job and not understanding what it entails and then asking the head of MI5 to go jet skiing with you. Which apparently is what he did. Incredible. And he kept taking pictures at some... I think it was at Windsor Castle or something. He kept basically causing a national incident. He also wore a Liverpool tie to his seminary. Yeah, he did. He's a big Liverpool fan. You know, if you are travelling to London to do a meeting with MI5, you're not getting away with going. I'm going to know Kash Patel's, you know, private jet monster going to see his girlfriend, the country music singer.

28:48But he, you can't, there's no excuse to go up and see Liverpool play. Yeah. With those tickets. Sometimes representation is bad. I just felt the top brass at MI5 is probably quite serious people. Yeah. Jet skiing is not on the agenda. In the UK, in November or something, what are you talking about? He's brought his own life presenter. It's just a baffling suggestion. Cash App, I do not know what this is all about. You know James Bond isn't real. Maybe he's found their weakness. It's just confusing. No, exactly. But what we need to find is a fixture that even Cash Patel will, you know, turn his nuts up.

29:23Why don't you DM him and ask him to come on the Arsenal pod? I will, yes. I will. Get in there. I think, by the way, I'll just say that there's probably a difference between Mamdani and drunkenly DMing repeatedly that lot. Right, okay. You might get a response. Those trousers. Yeah, you'll definitely get a response. Do you want to come and watch Newcastle? Just put the cash bag emoji in the morning. Anyway. Give us your Bitcoin wallet. I do genuinely have something to say about Arsenal United, which is that I wanted Vicious take because Manchester United were actually good last time out. And this makes this game quite interesting because I think if this game happens even a month or two ago, you think, well, it's going to be routine.

30:01The United aren't going to be able to deal with it. They're going to get rolled over. They're going to get overwhelmed and that's that. United were actually genuinely good against City. I wasn't on the, was I on the show? might have been on the show anyway. If I didn't say, I'll say now. They were genuinely good. It wasn't like they'd nicked something against City. They were actually decent. And one swallow doesn't make a summer. But do you have higher hopes going into this game as you would have done ordinarily? A little bit, because I think the game is going to play out to Arsenal's type in that they'll probably win it 2-0 with a couple of set-piece goals.

30:34And while I was encouraged last week, I think a lot of the joy that Manchester United got through playing through City those avenues will be very much close to them against Arsenal. I don't think they're, you know, Arsenal are very strong and structured in the middle compared to City who are just all over the place. It's probably the key difference between City and Arsenal. Yeah, 100%. And actually, during the City game, Man City United made a few mistakes where they basically squandered some really useful openings. And in the end, it didn't matter because they were able to create more of them.

31:06I think they've got to be more efficient if they get those opportunities against Arsenal. I still think there's, you know, there's a roughness to Manchester United still, obviously. But I just see Arsenal being a bit more functional, a bit more savvy when it comes to dealing with what Manchester United were able to do to City last week. And this is a bit out of context as well, but it might have a bearing on the game. But one of the things that has annoyed me most about Manchester United over the last few years, and it's partly through all the spending as well and where the money's been spent.

31:40But when you have that kind of squad and when you spend that kind of money, the last thing you can be is boring. It is a sin to be boring with all that expenditure. And the thing I was encouraged by, and nourished by actually, not just encouraged, but last week. You're on the tea. You're on the tea. The soul. The soul was sucking on it, not the mouth. Soul milk. It was like, it was like you know the good players the attacking players they were allowed to they were let off the leash a little bit but they were engaging in a way that might draw Arsenal out of you know whatever set plans they have and what might end up being Manchester United's best route to a positive result I found it interesting not just because he scored but I found it interesting that he played Dorgi much further forward and he was actually able to have a really big impact on the game and the reason I'm saying that is because I think Dorgi's pretty good but he's to me and maybe you much more than me so maybe this is wrong so pull me up if need be but he seems quite predictable in the fact that he's so one footed and so left footed and the fact that he was able in the modern game against a team like City who aren't without their flaws but are obviously a good team have such an impact on the game was quite interesting really and I wonder if he'd do that again I think the best thing that could happen in this game would be for United to score early because then what you're talking about means 100 % Arsenal are but seven points clear on the rest of it, but it's not done.

33:06And if they go behind early and they have to come out and think, oh, we can't really afford to lose this, so we need to get something, then it could play into the hands of how United were against City because City left loads of gaps. And if Arsenal find themselves having to leave gaps, it could become really interesting. Look, what will probably happen is they'll get overwhelmed. Arsenal will batter them in some way. It might be a set piece, might not, but they'll find a way. And when United go behind, can they respond we don't really know because we haven't seen an awful lot of them doing that I don't think but an early United goal would be delicious 100 % yeah well it's worth reminding everyone that Michael Carrick has already beaten Arsenal as a Manchester United manager his interim manager record he's beaten quite a lot big team it's really good they beat them 3-2 in 2021 with Carrick as interim boss Ralph Raniuk was watching from the stands before taking over Cristiano Ronaldo scored his 800th career goal in 2021 was that the goal it was certainly the game when there was a controversial goal awarded because according to VAR, De Gea was a judge to have fallen over a United player and so the goal stood.

34:09Right. They said he wasn't infringed or something like that. Yeah. Was that the Cristiano Ronaldo goal? You don't remember, do you? No. I mean, you're pointing at me. Yeah. You're a dog pointing at me. Yeah. I remember the game anyway. I do remember the game. And then Ranjik took over shortly after that, didn't he? Yeah. And everything got much better. The great auditor. Vish is a Ranjik stan. No, I think he actually he did what he was supposed to do. He came in, he audited the club and he was like, this doesn't work, this doesn't work, this doesn't work. And at the end he was like, oh, you know that kind of overarching role I was going to take?

34:39I can't be arsed. That job's way too big. I'm not doing that. Yeah. I simply don't have the tools in the van. I'll have to come back. No, no, no. I need to order some parts in. I've seen the number. I've seen the wages. I've seen the contract. Don't worry about that. I've also seen inside. Yeah. Checker trade is closed. Yeah. It's going to be Monday at the earliest and that's the phone goes off doesn't it yeah have you seen what he's doing in his car I'm not I don't want to get back well a little bit of news from the playing staff Casemiro will be leaving Manchester United when his contract expired this summer Vish is there no greater exemplar of mismanagement from Manchester United than Casemiro multiple Champions League winner coming in he probably could have been looked after a bit better on the defensive side he has been pretty awful by his own high standards from start to finish.

35:32I think he has had patches where he's been really good. Yeah, I don't think awful from start to finish is fair. By his own high standards. He was very good. Five-time Champions League winner. At United. Yeah, five-time Champions League winner. That's a concrete block, isn't it? He had a lot of miles on the clock. I can't believe he's only 33 now. Well, yeah, he turns 34 next month. He was 29 when he got to United. Yeah, but it felt like Like he was 33 when he got to United in terms of like how often he played. He looked slow to start with. Yeah, 100%. He had a really good first two thirds of the season when he started at Manchester United.

36:07I think, do you remember it kind of capitulated against Palace where he got sent off? They lost 4-0. Yeah. And then it completely fell apart that season. That's when Carragher said what he said. Or was that later? No, and then that was later. Right. And then, so that period of, you know, leave the football before the football leaves you was quite a prescient quote, I think, because it really did seem like he was totally gone. Radcliffe was a big fan, wasn't he? Yeah. Overpaid and not good enough? Yeah, yeah. Well done. But that's a bit that you're talking about, about, you know, he had no runners with him in midfield.

36:42And then actually this season, he's been pretty good. And also, both things can be true, yeah? He was clearly looking for his last consistent, big payday after leaving Real Madrid and Manchester United were willing to give it to him. And by all accounts, they were going to lose in Real as well. Yeah, I mean, I don't really know. I feel like they were going through their own... It's merely a cut from your opinion that everyone's crying right after. But then at the same time, he also cared. And like you can see, you know, there's some clips of him celebrating with Carrick on the touchline last week where he's like jumping on his back and he's a bit like a kid.

37:15Obviously, you can't... He's still a winner and, you know, that drive never goes away. But I think it would be wrong to say he didn't care about Manchester United, I think it would also be fair to say that United have feathered his nest effectively, regardless of whatever his next move is. Yeah, and shout out to Sir Jim Radcliffe for calling other people overpaid and not good enough. Yeah. Any kind of self-awareness whatsoever. I think the move, they probably would have kept all of him, but he does have one of those kind of play me in more games and then I get an extension automatically. Oh, does he?

37:42Okay. That's probably why he's not a pretty much. I think it's also that like, you know, he is, he doesn't play 90 minutes anymore and he's very good at what he does, but you need someone who's doing that consistently. And Manchester United don't have a player of that particular midfield profile in their squad, so. Okay, well, Thierry Henry has said that Kaio Saka is less of a nice guy this season. He says that his eyes have changed. What does that mean? Like when David Boyd got that eye injury and he's changed the color of his eyes. Maybe it is that, yeah. I don't know what it means, Pete, and I don't think anyone who's heard Thierry Henry's output will be surprised.

38:20by it. Hey, show some respect because Gabriel Jesus told CBS that when Henry speaks, everyone listens and asks him to speak more about Arsenal. Can I say something slightly controversial? A new teat is arriving, Luke. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. Casting a long shadow. The boss says a new teat is arriving. Tee-tee. Is Thierry Henry that good a pundit? I think sometimes a lot of the stuff he says is not just baffling but is nonsense dressed up in a very attractive package that people assume is good. I think sometimes I don't say that same thing about me because it's not a good package so that's bullshit this package is damaged in transit yeah you look at me as a package you think promises were made about stories I haven't been kept but is there anything in that though do you think I think there is I think he's charming sometimes when he talks about like forward play I think that's really interesting I don't know if you saw Monday Night Football just gone that's basically what I'm referring to but he had a really weird thing where they were asking about who do you think would be given what you what you know of manchester united who do you think would who would be your choice as manchester united manager yeah for all the things you think they're about and how they need to go forward and he kept saying that it's difficult because it's a hypothetical question and the host i was like no i get that it is it is a hypothetical but i'm looking at your contract here that's exactly what it is and i'm asking what you think and then on we kept replying with well i don't know what they're thinking is that that again if they're thinking wasn't there To some extent.

39:49Yeah. Not at all. And he just went back and forth and he went, great, let's go to a break. Well, two people who aren't, you know, bothered about upsetting people are Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt. Alessandro Martinez recently told Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt to come to his house and criticise him face to face. They're not going to do that. After the pair said that Erling Haaland would pick Martinez up and run with him like a dad carrying his toddler. Which I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. Yeah, I completely agree. I thought that was pretty good behaviour, actually. It's not a show I love generally, but it's a pretty good behaviour.

40:20No, I think on Martinez's side of things, though, if you're inviting two of the same type of man with red hair, it feels more like a hate crime. Like, come to my house and I'm going to beat you up. It just feels wrong somehow. First of all, there's no way... Ron Weasley with you. And Sheeran. Come on, Sheeran. Yeah, just imagine like a load of the basic same physical profile of Gingerblow. Just turn up at Martinez's house. With a bollock out each. Lovely. But you know, there is, didn't Nicky Butt say something like, in response, I'm a 48 year old father of two, I'm not coming to your house, or something like that.

40:54Right, okay, yeah. But like, there is a kind of interesting thing developing where it's become almost a cottage industry when you're ex-May United and May United are in the state they're currently in. It's just the most unbelievably low hanging fruit whatsoever. Yeah. And you've got Keane doing it and Skulls doing it and Butt doing it because there's so many ex-May United people around. It's just, it is quite repetitive. Yeah. And clearly, we'll sit on a show like this and we'll bash May United, fine. We're not getting their money, though. Yeah, but these guys are supposed to be kind of offering some kind of insight as ex-pros, right?

41:32And all it comes down to time and time again is under Ferguson, we did this. Apart from Keane, who's like, under Ferguson, we did this, but it wasn't actually that good. And if you do think it was good, you're a fucking liar because he hates Ferguson. I just wonder what the end game is here for people who, I guess what I'm trying to say is if I was at May United now in a decision-making position, I would be... Ban them from the ground. No, I'd just be quite disappointed by how often they revert to this. Even though a lot of it, I guess, is kind of warranted. Do you understand what I mean, though?

42:05Yeah, but I think it's the... I guess their point of view would be that we're not even given season tickets now, so fuck you, basically. but I think we see it as like children of the 90s with you know it happened with Liverpool didn't it when they went through the period where they weren't winning anything and a lot of the pundits were ex-Liverable players who had won things and we're talking about how things used to be and how things should be now based on that but I mean it kind of folds into the Gabriel Jesus Thierry Henry thing as well ex-pros rightly wrongly I think fine but have such a sway with their own fan base that clubs use them in various different ways obviously the mansionite situation is colored somewhat by i suppose the the the um cut down in ambassadorial roles as luke alluded to their like season tickets things like that people being on retainers and what they said that i mean scolz and but have said yeah it's hard for them to get tickets yeah oh yes of course yeah and then like you've got the other side of it where it's like it felt like jamie carrigan for example was doing a lot of liverpool's bidding not just over the contract with most salah but like salah's behavior earlier this year I think of someone like Ian Wright for Arsenal in particular who is a generally just a force for good for them for their men and women's team in particular and Jesus saying that about Henry was almost like a knowing not to like actually yeah you're on loads of different stations you're on Sky you're on CBS you're on this that and the other you big us up and suddenly like the groundswell around us is so much greater you have Hurling Haaland's movement suddenly the heat on them is that much greater I think with Man City it's just like it's their turn for this bit of a shit storm, really.

43:41I think the players have to wear it. I see what you're saying about the relevance of ex-pros, but I mean, they're on a podcast with Paddy McGuinness, aren't they? But that is just the nature of the beast. He is going to drag you down to his level. Is he a bad person? I think he's been very lucky with his career. Yeah. I think that's absolutely fine. If rumours are to be believed, certain people at his agency call him the luckiest C-word in the world. So that's his moniker. Oh, that's fine, is it? Yeah, absolutely fine. You can call him shit. If you want. Yeah. I'll keep saying about us, to be fair.

44:10Shit with a C. Speaking of, I can't even link that. It's been reported, it's been reported that Manchester United have agreed a deal to create the Crown-style TV drama series. What is this going to be about? Presume me. Interesting they've gone with a comparison for The Crown. Like the past glories of an empire. It's not exactly the only historical drama of all time, is it? It's just interesting that they kind of associate themselves with the monarchy of this country which is a shit show yeah who's going to play the part of Prince Andrew that's a good point how long has he been away oh sorry Andrew Mountbatten is that what he's called good point is that what he's called now I don't know I don't know what he's called now yeah you're right Luke why have they gone for you know a depiction of a crumbling monarchy rather than I don't know a different Masters of the Air exactly I don't even know what that show is Spitfires isn't it Spitfires good stuff World War 2 now we're back but it's just do it a bit for Marcus do it a bit for Marcus but it's it's not found a platform yet apparently Lionsgate Lionsgate have shopped it around wow shopping it around yeah there's so many different streaming platforms no one's bitten yet no one's bitten yet one of those kind of weird ones you get free with Amazon Fire stick I don't know what Zoobie is they've already done a really good Munich Air Disaster era Matt Busby era drama with Dougray Scott played Busby and it was brilliant they've already done that yeah It was very, very good.

45:37So the standards are already high. Let's have the kick in a football bit with David Beckham years. That'd be good. Yeah, I think we've had enough of the Beckhams. We've had a busy week. Did you see Brassel's mate, Gary Cottrell, asking the Paphos manager about that? Yeah, yeah. Pretty wild, wasn't it? It's bad. Yeah. He was having none of it, or rather his translator was having none of it. But I think even he was like, I probably could answer this in English, but I'm not going to. I'm not going to. No. He got tripped up on the word saga. It's just not a word that foreign speakers have. Anyway.

46:10Foreign speakers. Foreign speakers. No language in the world has foreign speakers. They know nothing of troubles for foreign speakers. Those foreign speakers. All right, we'll come and go after this. Diego Costa has restarted his feud with Antonio Conte.

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48:56Apparently Mateta might be on the way. I know. Yeah, yeah. He seems keen to leave on this edge in satin. He does. Yeah, absolutely. So I had my say on Glasner last week. I thought it was absolutely dreadful. I just thought it was terrible the way he played. Apparently it's all been smoothed over now. But it does feel difficult to see how you rescue that in this situation, given that he said what he said. They're in a terrible run anyway. And he's leaving. So you wonder whether the more cynical side of you wonders whether the motivation for him to turn it around is there because they're not going to get relegated.

49:28I mean, what's the fucking point? Yeah, and you wonder if he was staying, if he might have had a different kind of conversation with Mateta because it sounds like Mateta went to him last week and said, oh, I quite fancy leaving. And he's on like, yeah, fine, if we can find someone for you. He's got 18 months left on his deal. Yeah, yeah. So if we can find a decent amount of money for you between now and the end of the window, then great. Otherwise, you're staying with us. Would he have fought a bit more if he was staying? Yeah, because he fought really hard for Gay. Yeah. really hard for him to the point where the rumours are to be believed he was like well if he goes at this short notice you don't expect me to stick around so Mateta's been like well I'm going well you know I'm going as well so we can walk out together exactly I think he apparently bike locked himself to the neck of Kay like that protester that time yeah that'd be nice and the guy who was clipping him free did the greatest facial expression ever he did what was it do it I can't do it do it do the face possible to do it no he wouldn't do it justice what was it like was it a grimace was it a smile a really cartoonish toothy grimace oh we'll have to check it out we'll have to have a good look Chelsea on the other hand have won three games in four under Liam Rossini again 1 % of the story I think very promising character Rossini not necessarily for the football no very much for the ramble I think definitely an absolutely amazing academy prospect for ramble material like he is going to I don't know he's too dry though isn't he he's basically Stephen Bartlett without a lot of the health misinformation so far so far I feel really I feel really sad for him I feel sorry let me rephrase that I feel happy for him that he's got this job because it's a great opportunity regardless of how trigger happy Chelsea are with managers and at the same time I feel a bit sad for him because it's like how you act when you know you've got something you don't deserve.

51:22Yeah. So he's just over, trying too hard. Yeah. He's got a really attractive partner at school and he's like, right, I've just got to start acting up now. I've got to pretend that I deserve this. Or that I can beat up the hardest kid in the school. Yeah. And I've got to start wearing this. I've got to speak like this. Has this happened to you? No, I wish. I've been preparing for it. There's a picture in a curry house in North London where Gordon Ramsay is basically standing in the middle of all of the chefs at the curry house. and it's not Gordon Ramsay and the look on the face is very telling I think just kind of like I've gone too far I've gone too far I've got a free meal and they're taking a picture and that's going to be put up in the restaurant so Liam Rossellia is the Premier League managerial equivalent of a Gordon Ramsay look-alike in a curry house exactly I think that's fair it's a very prominent Gordon Ramsay look-alike you know the famous David Brent guy he's one of his his gang because David Brent's look-alike his best friend is the Gareth Keane lookalike and they always hang around with the Gordon Ramsay lookalike who does genuinely look like a very short Gordon Ramsay but the whole edifice falls apart because obviously the lookalike for David Brent is doing this thing on Instagram and he's appearing at Stag Do's and all the rest of it right he's got the act down but then sometimes in his videos Gordon Ramsay just walks past going right wow it's like you're killing the universe here that's how this works oh yeah that's a non sequitur they've never met their universe have never met It's not Marvel's like universe.

52:49It's kind of the same, but all in football. But that TikTok lot where you get your Neymar, Pele, I think, Rodinho as well. And they all hang out together. They're a funny looking lot. But I do enjoy seeing those lads out and about. Yeah, it's great to see them. But you never see them by themselves. No, it's true. It's really confusing. So I think that Rossini, I just got a lot of high hopes for him producing material based on what I've seen so far. I hope he sticks around. I think it's just going to be the same kind of material, though. Yeah, but what's really interesting is, I had a theory, and it was a theory around Brendan Rodgers, and when he was having success, and my theory around Brendan Rodgers is that he was cringe like that.

53:31He was Brent. He used to get a load of that shit for being like Danny Brown. Yeah, yeah, I understand, yeah. But he did well, right? Won trophies, you know, different places. Had relative success at Liverpool, before Klopp came along, of course. And the reason for it, I thought, was that because he's clever enough to seem clever to footballers, but not so clever that he alienates them. Yeah. And that David Brent middle management level, you can't lose sight of the fact that a lot of people, a lot of younger, not academically brilliant football players will go, that's a bit of me that. You see, you can't be snobby about it.

54:04Yeah. I'm not saying all footballers are stupid. I'm just saying they're not prioritised academically. They're young and they get taken in by idiots. There's a reason Stephen Bartlett's fucking massive. And weirdly massive in the sports world as well. Yeah. yeah that's a good point I think what what he said behind closed doors to a group of say 20 people or in Chelsea's case 55 people is very different when said in the press when repeated in the press conference isn't kind of that kind of channel their focus and yeah that is a good point and that video where we were starting with football I was saying what have you learnt you still learning what have you learnt the guy's going I don't know what can we do some drills can you give me the football please former Chelsea player Eden Hazard has started a new career as a winemaker has he though or has he just put his name to it I don't know he's done Stomper on the grapes himself I don't know I imagine you'd need pretty large spaces between the the plants for his posterior down the lines of the the vines they shouldn't be they're not usually that close are they so no yeah he'd still get well he could he wouldn't have to yeah he wouldn't have to stand on them he'd sit on them like a Koopa is it Koopa Koopa the things that like Stomp in Mario oh or Cooper.

55:17Cooper? Cooper Trooper. Cooper Trooper. I don't know. He's such a dude, Aidan Hazard. I wish him every success. That man was a Rolls Royce player and I'm so glad he's a Rolls Royce vineyard. But it's been made by an Italian winemaker. Right. I think he's just... This, to me, smacks off. I've had the monthly meeting with the financial advisor. Yeah. This opportunity has come along. Yeah. It's a bit of a tax write-off. You ain't got to do much. Here's your tax bill for next year, potentially. Unless you operate in Spain. you're going to have to get some PR out of it and you're going to have to put your name to it and your face to it as a result you're going to pay far less tax and you'll probably get a load of wine for free alright I'll do it I'll talk and do it why have we never had a meeting with like a Brixton Railway Arch brewer true those ones are like 100 cans at a gore Brixton Brewery right near me very good brewery well you get in there and you tell them we want a Ramble very chemical lager why don't we have a Ramble beer don't know we should do but I just want to say to close this little section off that the label on the bottle of wine makes it look appalling.

56:22It looks terrible. It says on the bottle Wine of Champions. No one's buying that. Good point. Elsewhere, a former Chelsea player is also in the headlines. Diego Costa has restarted his unwelcome feud with Antonio Conte. It's not unwelcome. Is it? Well, it's very welcome. It's always unedifying, isn't it? It's always upsetting. These two are proper like alphas. They're both silverbacks, aren't they? Yeah. So you've got to, whoever wins we lose kind of vibe yeah you've got to let them have a feud they should be feuding it's like Keane and Ferguson they should be feuding okay fine fine no one wants to live in a world where Keane and Ferguson like each other do they?

56:54no I guess it's nice to see them sort of roll back the years but you never hear of Ferguson having a go at Keane do you really? nah he can't be bothered can he? well Costa said of his ex-manager Antonio Conte he said that he's a person who doesn't trust others he thinks he knows everything you don't enjoy training with him he's always angry always with a long face probably he doesn't have sex at home because he is a very bitter guy I do not want I can't hear these words that are coming out of his mouth I know it's a bit fucking rich isn't it I also love that he's not played for Conte for 10 years almost yeah still there still bubbling away yeah I don't really want to think about Costa having sex to be honest I imagine he just unhinges his jaw and eats her every second like a praying mantis like a praying mantis yeah awful really awful stuff Luki Moore big big match in the championship Sunday at midday a lovely little Sunday treat it's Portsmouth versus Southampton the second Southcourse derby of the season the first game ended goreless terrible game terrible game they generally are derbies keenly contested derbies aren't they yeah I'm fighting every urge in my body to avoid this game yeah it's a really important game that as well because Portsmouth need the points yeah and that's the last thing you want going into a derby the pressure is so high as I said to you before I always I'd always back Portsmouth at home there have been a lot of incidents this season that have tested that theory.

58:15I'll be honest. But I'm still just about... A lot of barnacles on the hole. Yeah, I'm still clinging onto it by my fingernails, that theory. But yeah, I think Surampton haven't been great either. You know, they did that classic thing where they bring in their caretaker, a caretaker manager. He does all right. And then since they give him the permit job, he's been terrible. Obviously, we helped to see off their last manager, Will Still, who's doing a great line in Stephen Bartlett-esque Instagram post at the moment. Is he? Oh, yeah. He would do, wouldn't he? He's a man who should be brewing alcohol with that name.

58:42he should be but he very much wants back in the game but he's done now he's gone I'd take a 1-0 sketchy win right now all day long that's a lovely kind of Sunday you've got there because obviously midday kick off and then you can waltz into it's not a lovely Sunday because I'll wake up at the crack of dawn with my son and for about six hours I'll feel sick and I'll take a deep breath step outside and then I'm going to go to Arsenal Man United and hopefully have a bit of a relaxed bit of a palate cleanser because I've got no Dog in the fight. Well, don't punch any horses because the last time that Portsmouth and Southampton, that fixture took place back in 2019 at Fratton Park, someone chained a horse.

59:19How very Geordie. In our last live tour, we did a whole bit about the Newcastle fan punching the horse. And the Fratton Park horse punching in 2019 never really got mentioned. We've not really sort of investigated that man's vibe, but yeah, he's probably not as weird and problematic as Geordie. He'll be as problematic. He won't be as funny. But police are preparing a ring of steel operation for this game, apparently, which I think basically means shepherding every single St. Hampton fan to and from the train station. Yeah. And leaving it, obviously, and obviously before you take them back to the train station, they stay in the stadium until ages afterwards.

59:53Did you see the, yeah, I'm looking forward to PSG next week, French pawpaw. Did you see the Aston Villa buses coming from the airport to Fiannavaccia? Yeah. Just a procession of, and police escorts and stuff. Circus don't mess around, that's why. No, they don't mess around as well as shit. Anyway, look, pray for me. Pray for you. If you're a Samson fan, fuck you. If you're a Portsmouth fan, pray for me. Pray for us all. Pray for us all. And if you want a bit more... You're part of the Luke Nation. You want to be supporting Portsmouth on Sunday. That's a good point. And more on that very, very soon indeed.

1:00:21If you want a bit more intel on that, our friends over at Second Tier Podcast have an in-depth preview of that game available right now. Just search Second Tier Podcast on YouTube or wherever you get your pods to subscribe and listen now. Right. Coming up a little bit later today on your YouTubes and your Spotify's and wherever you get your pods, Vish is going to be taking on Luke in my big hand. Where's my belt gone? The belt was over there. Has it been moved? Pete made the belt for us. It's been sort of modified. I've been wearing it. Probably in the wash. On the boil wash cycle. Make it a bit more flexible.

1:00:56Yeah, Vish, you're after the belt on your return. I am, yeah. Are you still doing that thing where you pretend you don't care? I cut a very unconvincing promo yesterday. Yeah. It's better than the promo you did in like November. If I win this, I think England will win the ashes and I didn't win it and England didn't win the ashes exactly good point so is it my fault because I beat you right I think you did beat me yeah no it's Marcus who beat you didn't he Marcus beat you in the last gasp so it's Marcus's fault Zach Crawley is Marcus's fault that's the takeaway for the two posh dickers no one is to blame outrageous well yes my video will be available to listen to later today make sure to subscribe to the Football Ramble in your podcast app so that you do not miss it thank you very much for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the Aircast Creator Network.

1:01:41Vish, good to have you back. A strong return to the Premier League of sports podcasting, the Football Ramble. Cheers. I mean, I wasn't worried about my performance until you said that now. I wasn't until I heard you yesterday. Casemiro-esque. Yeah, I started to worry. And Lukey Mo, goodbye to you too. Goodbye to you. Any words about my performance? It's passable. It's a good performance. Give him a full frontal look at the trousers before you go. I don't know where my... Oi, let the seat do the work. Don't start that. There we go. So many colors.

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