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28 Nov 2025 · 53m

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The Preview Show: Nottingham Forest’s fortifications

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  • Marcus Speller
  • Luke Moore
  • Pete Donaldson

In this episode of the Football Ramble, the hosts discuss various football-related topics, including recent European matches, the upcoming Premier League fixtures, and the behavior of football fans. The discussion centers around Nottingham Forest's new manager Sean Dyche's impact on the team, a high-stakes match between Chelsea and Arsenal, and the troubling behavior of supporters during recent matches.

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0:00I never said never everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble Preview Show. Top of the table clash in the Prem this weekend. It's Friday 28th of November. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Luke Moore. And I'm Pete Donaldson.

0:24It's Friday, everybody. Once again, we've made it. Have that the man. Yeah, another week alive. Have that the devil. You'll never take me Under our belts it goes We're going out feet first from the week We're never going out in cuffs Like a shoot Yeah, we're never going out in cuffs Marcus Feet first and two footed You'll never take us alive work week coppers Damn right How are you feeling Pete? Middling I'd say No but Pete, how are you really? Really? A bit tired But I think I'll launch myself with another football ramble with Gusteau How are you in yourself though? Oh yeah, terrible When people ask those questions they just want you to say They say terrible, yeah.

1:01All right, fine. I'm bad. There we go. Can we move on? Whenever I want to say how you're doing to someone, I just want it to be the proper British thing. Yeah, fine. Yeah, fine. Next. Jobs are good. Next. Don't need any truth. Thanks very much. Easy peasy. If someone calls me and says, can I talk to you about something? Absolutely. I'm happy to listen. In a passing interaction in the kitchen at work or in the street, whatever. Fine, thanks. Yeah. That's the British way. Yeah. That's what got us through the blitz. Keep it down. Keep all of the truth down. Yeah. Oh, dear. Right. let's talk about some European football that happened last night Aston Villa 2 Young Boys 1 Dono Marlon scored a brace he's having a good time I like him as a player I like him as a man I don't know him as a man yeah that's true anything comes out of that what a big gamble let's look at his Instagram shall we let's see what he's like recently right you do that right okay we started with praise we could go either way we started with praise Christian good Christian boy there we go You see, I just knew it.

2:01Marcus could sniff him out. It's like a gaydar for Christian people. Oh, Pete has enjoyed that one, hasn't he? I've not enjoyed that one. That joke was specifically for Pete. To be fair. You caught the flack for that. I like Donya Mahlin as a player. All I was going to say was, I was speaking to producer Young Finn. He's not related to young boys. Yeah, but he was a young boy once by the time. He was, yeah. Still is compared to us. And I was saying, do you think he should play more? And he said, oh, he's a bit streaky. I'm not sure. I actually like him as a player. I think he's done you know he's scored what three goals in the league this season three goals in the Europa League oh yeah he seems to catch headlines when he starts games certainly in Europe I'm just not sure given that Oli Watkins has had his travails yes I know Manon can play off the right as well but to me it feels a bit like he didn't deserve to be treated that way by the young boys fans or that was poor it's like right on the bonks didn't it it did yeah it does kind of catch you by surprise sometimes when Swiss fans Particularly the Swiss Who should be neutral Well I was going to say Where was Where was that feistiness And fighting spirit Exactly Oh come on now Listen He's onto something here He's onto something here If you If you are going to be the people You want to look after the gold You've got to be calm Right You've got to make hard decisions Don't throw the gold Yeah but don't give it to them I'd like to see Swiss fans When their team scores Just calmly Pull out a pen and piece of paper Just write something down The time Put it back in their top pocket Just the time Just the time Review the gold Yeah yeah yeah Another piece of chocolate Yeah fine I'd be happy for them at the end of the game if they've won to do a Rafa Benitez glasses off into the top pocket.

3:34There you are. Yeah. I don't think they should be throwing things at a bald man because if it's the United Strand that's bouncing off he's not even going to know about it. Hitting a bald head If you throw at the United Strand presumably it would get stuck into it if it was a cup. That's what it was. Yeah I guess so yeah. If it was a twig definitely. Bald or otherwise don't throw things at people. No. No. But it was poor. They even ripped out some seats which I think is totally counterproductive I appreciate there's some fans that don't like sitting down you get to our range last 10 minutes you need that at some point you might go I've chucked it on the pitch didn't I and then and only then will you feel a fool I'm going to sit on cold concrete I'm going to get piles did you get piles at Marseille by the way he was standing in piles throwing out my shoes that wasn't asked yesterday whether you specifically got piles no I wasn't sat down I tell you what there's been quite a bit said hasn't there don't worry we'll get back to you in a minute There was a moment where there was a crush that was like, right, okay, that could have been nastier.

4:31Could have been bad. Well, your friend of mine, Jonathan Wilson, was saying that how many times do we see this, particularly in France, where they just can't police stuff? But that's always been reviewed. He's a son of a man, though, so be careful what you say about him. If you speak to the West Ham fans, for example, who obviously did in their kind of successful European tour, they sort of say that the French police, compared to the other places they went, like Spain and Germany, the French... Spanish police can be tasty. The French police could be a little more heavy-handed than most. The thing for me is like, it seems to be there.

5:02Again, where was that during the, you know. For me, it upsets me because the clothing, because the clothing that all of the riot police wear, there doesn't seem to be a single sort of costume that they all wear. Costume. It's a costume. It's all different odds and sides. That might be part of the problem. There's a costume. People aren't taking this serious. Well, some people go for the full balaclava. Some people are going for full Legion of Doom, kind of like shoulder pads. Some people don't wear shoulder pads. Some have the cricket sort of protectors on their legs. It just seems to be quite like one big dress-up box.

5:33What you're trying to say is do what we do in England and just have minimum wage security people in high-vis jacket. Who don't want to do anything. But yeah, I suppose if you turn up like that, if someone says dress is your favourite superhero or something like that, you're going to want to get involved, aren't you? You took a picture of the police. There was a man. There was a man with a beautiful moustache. It was something else. Yeah, it was great. I had the Newcastle United Supporters Association chairman on the radio yesterday saying that this kind of stuff for away games he said at least for Newcastle United fans it happens every time but it's really poor all joking aside although we must get back to that to see such a beautiful stadium as the Marseille one and to see how good their fans were because their fans also can't behave themselves outside of the ground the foreign fans have to kind of deal with quite heavy-handed stuff.

6:26And it was really sort of stripped down. It was like proper backstage brawl at WrestleMania. Still on grey concrete everywhere. There'll be people listening to this going, come on, lads, England fans and English fans. Long time ago, though, isn't it? I think a lot of that, of course there was. I mean, there were Palace fans fighting each other in Strasbourg. If you can't find any locals to fight, just fight each other. When there's nothing left to burn, you must set yourself on fire. So I understand this, but whatever the reasons, the way those young boys fans were behaving if that's in a stadium perhaps in one of the aforementioned countries the police just go in and clearly that's not the other thing I mean the captain of young boys Lloris Bento went over to try and calm them down beautiful looking man I'd listen to him but Swiss fans can be great often in sort of northern and central Europe you remember years ago when we went to watch Fulham play Basel in that run they were brilliant they were very good producer Roy was saying Zurich fans were some of the best he's seen as well so they're vociferous I think you need to be vociferous I think to support your team particularly when you're away from home and you want to give them a bit of an atmosphere but you shouldn't be throwing things at players and you shouldn't be throwing chairs that's as simple as that Chairs are for sitting on Yeah Maybe they're throwing it just to get Loris Benito over because they want to look at him closer Baby I can forgive for that That's what it was I've paid the easy jet fee to get here I'd listen to him Well I mean the game has stopped five and a half minutes but look it was a good performance from Aston Villa controlled okay the only one 2-1 but young boys scored very very late on But Young Boys did have one ruled out for a toe-off side as well, which was quite a nice move.

7:55So it could have been worse for Villa. I think Villa took their foot off the gas a little bit. They missed a few chances and so on. But they were good value for the win. And I think right now, Villa, we're talking about them in a different way than we were, I don't know, two or three months ago. They've won, what, 10 of their last 12. They've turned the corner. And there were chats about, okay, If you look at Emery's coaching career, then sometimes he finds it difficult on that third season or fourth season, or whatever it is. But he just doesn't stay at a place that long generally. Yeah, because it sort of starts to go.

8:31But they've arrested it. They're going well. And what's also interesting about that run you mentioned there is the kind of standout defeat in that run, domestically, Marcus, is the game against Liverpool. Yeah. Which is quite strange, because Liverpool, as we've seen, are there for the taking. They really are. And so I was surprised that they were beaten. I mean, they're beaten fairly easily 2-0 at Anfield. And we've seen what's happened before and since for Liverpool, and it's quite surprising. So it could have been even better for them. They could be in second. But look, it's a win, isn't it?

9:00And given Emery's record, given the size of club of Villa and their budget, they need to be getting deep in this competition, and that's another step towards doing so. Yeah, I mean, it was very nice to see the club not do what you've talked about some of the foreign police do and Aston Millis sent them a very nice message the Young Boys fans didn't they please just calm down please just calm down in German dear guest fans please keep quiet to avoid further problems thank you very much further problems yeah their own further problems that they're presumably enjoying because they've made the further problems it couldn't be more British if he went over to them and said I'm really sorry cut it out I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm really sorry no worries if not yeah no worries if not yeah Yeah, no worries if not.

9:45Sorry we've scored a second goal. Yeah. A bit of sarcasm there. Will Aston Villa play Wolves in a West Midlands derby on Sunday? Wolves, of course, are very much there for the taking. I think they'll get spanked. Yeah? Yeah. I've not seen anything from them either before or after the lovely Rob Edwards took over the helm of that particular sinking ship to think they're going to bail themselves out enough to get to harbour. Yeah. And let's hope those seats are replaced by the way because if you're all phone to them and go come on I guess it would still would that still be the away area because their allocation would just be the away bit maybe Peter either or let's get those seats fixed yeah I think either way Pete we need the seats fixed yeah but the Wolves they'd probably like the idea of the Wolves fans sitting on the floor I would say maybe I mean I'm sure Aston Villa are long in the tooth enough to no yeah we are going to have to replace them yeah but they're Wolves so presumably they could get together some kind of den yeah little embroidered pillow yeah Wolves doing Broadway do they?

10:44Get him in the club shop get Harvey Elliott's face on a pillow Oh yeah featured in Aston Villa's Christmas advert I saw an Aston Villa fan refer to Harvey Elliott in the Aston Villa Christmas advert as the best performance from him this season It is sad what's happened to him It's sad but fair How's it fair? He's been poor Because he's been poor Well he should have come home to Fulham All would have been forgiven All would have been forgiven apart from that haircut But he went to Aston Villa instead Right Moving on to Nottingham Forest 3 Malmö a zero. Forest kept clean sheets in each of their three Europa League games under Sean Dyche so far in the campaign.

11:19And who said he couldn't take to European football, Peter? Who said he couldn't get a team scoring goals? Who said that? Well, that bit was me. Yeah, we all had a doubt and maybe we still do, but my goodness, it's going all right. It's gone very direct. It's gone very all right and I think the clean sheet is the most important thing for Nottingham Forest at this moment in time. I know it was a home win and, you know, the might of the Premier League and all that stuff. But I mean, that's a hell of a performance. Three straight clean sheets. Doesn't it show you how much football has changed? Because of course, Forrest and Malmö played in the European Cup in 1979.

11:53France scored the winner, as many people know. And now the gap between an English top flight team and a Swedish club side is just astronomical in comparison. I thought Forrest were good, Marcus. I thought they could have scored more goals. I thought Ryan Yates was outstanding. he could have it's probably a bit of a stretch to say he could have had a hat trick but he certainly could have scored two and he's had an amazing career in Parth hasn't he scored in every division now has he won a lot and in Europe I think and I think possibly even the National League as well I'll have to check that yeah so he's had an amazing career but a friend of mine was at the game and said the Malmo fans continuing this theme we've talked about apparently the Malmo fans were absolutely brilliant he said it's the best away end I've ever seen at Forest and he said at one point they did a 20 minute rendition of the song Whistle Stop from Disney's Robin Hood.

12:40That's excellent. Come on. Hey, our young boys. Three of them a game and you're nearly at full time. What was also really nice, what was also really nice, by the way, is that Forest are a historic club and I'm personally very pleased to see them in the Premier League in the top flight again. But they did bring out all the, I think as many of the surviving players from 79 as they could. Obviously, Trevor Francis is no longer with us and one or two others aren't. But it was a really nice moment before the game to have them out to show the kind of symbolism of it. Well, they were having a dinner, weren't they?

13:11Were they? Well, they're going to have dinner every night. People have dinner every night. It's a good point, actually. Yeah, you can rarely go without dinner. Marcus never goes without dinner, do you? I don't think so. No. Call me what you want, but don't call me lit for dinner. Yeah, exactly. Quite getting, that one. It's basically, yeah, they're having dinner and they just, once in a while, or maybe just once, they've thought, let's just have it together this time. Yes, good point, actually. I think people should have dinners together more. It's a wonderful way to commune. So Dyche's building something there, Does it feel like he's building something?

13:37Well, they've only lost once since he took over. So building, I think, might be too strong. We've got to wait and see because he himself said... Fortifying? Fortifying. Fortifying. Because he himself said, we're taking it one game at a time. Now, he probably would say that. Obviously, he'll have a slightly longer term strategy, you would think. But taking him on his word, I think fortifying is a better word to use. He is the first English manager to start a campaign with three straight clean sheets since 2012. And who did it in 2012, Pete Donaldson? Oh. Your friend and mine. See him down at the casino.

14:08Alan Pardew. Yeah, currently in a Just Eat advert. He is currently in a Just Eat advert. Is it Just Eat? No, it's not Just Eat. Uber Eats, isn't it? Right. He's one of them. Apologies to our friends at Uber Eats. He paid a lot of money for that spot. They have, yeah, but if you can't respect commerce, what can you respect? No, exactly. Is he fully retired now? Will he never darken anyone's doors? I don't think Alan Pardew is the kind of guy who ever fully retires. No. He'll tip a wink, won't he, if something comes up? Yeah. He's always available. Yeah, but in terms of, I think in terms of the top two leagues in England, I don't think we'd see him back.

14:39But that's our choice. That's the football community's choice, not his choice. Yes. And retirement is like, I'm stepping back now. Right. I see what you mean. I think he's... It's like, you get fired for gross misconduct. I'm not saying he has, but if you got fired for gross misconduct at a job, I don't think you'd get away on LinkedIn by saying, I've retired. Yeah, no, no, no. What actually happened was I retired. I get what you're saying. I think that there's still a chance that Jamaica could make the World Cup that'd be lovely and I just think maybe there's one or two managers looking at that I was I mean we probably don't have time for this but very very quickly because it's my show as well I was very surprised to hear Steve McLaren do what he did when there's still a chance yeah very weird it's a small chance I think he thought you know what I've but you've got to stay to the end but I think he's fallen on his sword I think he's thought I've been a bit disappointing he's going to see it through though if you're outnumbered in a battle and you're in charge people don't want to see their ranking officers quit it may well have been a mutual agreement yeah more mutual on one side than the other quite possibly but anyway I'll go through a few of those this meeting just got mutualed can I just also very quickly say back to Forrest yeah that I I didn't have my doubts at all that Dyche would be able to set them up to be harder to beat right and you could unfairly probably say that, you know, after Postacoglu, it's not going to be difficult.

16:00They were easy to beat. Yeah, and it's not difficult to make them improve on that side. But I did think to myself, at the time, it's a really interesting test of what Dice is all about now, because they've got so many good attacking players actually, they've got good players. It's a dream job for him, not just because of his, you know, in my view, exaggerated links to the club, but also because they're on there at a really low ebb for the quality of player they've got, so he hasn't got to do that much to improve them. And when you've got the players of quality that he's got, particularly against a team like Malmo, who are nowhere near the budget and nowhere near the level with respect to them, you'd expect them to be scoring goals.

16:34And he made quite a lot of changes and they still were able to do well. So I do think, I don't think it is an exaggeration that he's building something there. You can see them slowly and steadily moving up the table. I don't think it's going to be what it was last season, but I think it's going to be way, way better than they are at the moment. They're still down in like 16th or something. You would think he would be able to galvanise a squad because, again, look at what he did at Burnley, keeping them in the division. and despite them getting relegated back up again. So, you know, a lot of credit there.

17:01And Forrest have had much more investment than Bernie did for players. And Everton as well, where the points deduction, you know, it was a very, very difficult situation. Yet he managed to, you know, he wasn't playing wonderful football, but it was a very tricky situation and he navigated that well. So, as you say, Luke, coming in to Forrest, we mentioned before. But they couldn't score Everton. No. That's the point. Well, that was the problem. And I think even he was saying towards the end, it's like, yeah, maybe someone else can sort of come in or whatever. But he's there and they're going well in European competition and they're slowly but surely climbing up the league in the Premier League.

17:32They've got Brighton on Sunday which is a tricky task but we thought that was it last season and it turned out to be not a tricky task last season. Brighton are much better at home. They are. Yeah. Many do the travel I find most of the time. I don't know why. Brighton to Nottingham around the end of 25 if you're in the car. Do you fancy another 7-0-er Peter? No, I don't think it'd be quite that. Well, I mean if it is then Dyche will be loving it. He will be loving it. Donaldson will be wrong. Yes. Again, embarrassing. That will add to his, him loving it. Have you got a little stamp from a nightclub on your hand, Peter?

18:03No, I just brought Mark Shurt. I know you're Mark Haines from Wrestling Shurt. How is Mark Shurt these days? Good. Good lad, yeah. He's fine. Mark Shurt. Mark Shurt. How's Johnny Trousers? Is he doing okay? He's all right, yeah. Sorry about that, Marcus. I just thought it might be a nightclub stamp and it might be a story of Pete's daring do. Is it the shirt you're currently wearing that you owe him? No, no. He won't have the shirt off my back. Yeah. I've actually got to a funeral it's fine not important but on Monday well done but I'm wearing a black shirt and I was like I'm going to need this on Monday aren't I so I'm going to have to wash this black shirt and then wear it again oh okay and then again for my political meeting in the evening

18:42why are you like this try to lighten the mood after the funeral chat that's fair after me after me Auntie John coming up after this Strasbourg fans aren't happy with Todd Bowley's posse I beg your pardon

19:03The music plays a big part in our extended sports And the Inverness Cali Thistle manager Duncan Ferguson Is in charge of that this evening Here is his first choice Hi, it's Duncan Ferguson here My first choice is by Johnny Cash Which is Folsom Prison Blues In the song, the guy shot a man in Reno, I just happened to bump into a guy in Ibrox. So this song always reminds me of that time I spent away. Slimey back to the football. Astounding. Stong and Ferguson's brilliant, isn't he? Amazing, yeah. I love that. Right, Strasbourg 2, Crystal Palace 1. Palace suffered their second loss in the Conference League this season.

19:46They're currently 18th in the Conference League. how did they not get at the very least a point in this game? I mean they missed a couple of... They missed two big ones didn't they? Yeah, off the bar and off the post. I mean Adam Morton, I understand he sort of takes it on the half volley but the goal is at his mercy and then was it Sarr in the first half? And even then Pino had chances as well. I mean Mike Penders, the Chelsea Loney and goal, had a very interesting game because on one level made some great saves and a couple of one-on-ones and all that but was playing like Rene Higuita in the 1990 World Cup against Cameroon specifically at other times as well.

20:21He just, he just, give him an outfield number. Well, when you were talking about the Newcastle match on Wednesday's show, you were saying that I was waiting in, waiting for my three hour delayed Ryanair thing that turned up as an air malter flight for some reason. Did you just get on the wrong one? Just classic one. Classic Ryanair. But I was listening to you talk about that and you were talking about Nick Pope. Charging out. He never charges out. He's like, he does it every match. I was telling you is he a charger? Remember when he got that handball at Liverpool? a couple of seasons ago. That's kind of his vibe.

20:50So maybe this is what he does all the time and we just don't see enough of him. So that's the equivalent of us going, what are these Swiss football fans being all feisty and naughty bad? It's kind of... It was like that. Yeah, the away fans are often quite vocal. So yeah, maybe I'm a... We can't be across everything, I suppose. But yeah, it was a wild performance, wasn't it? It was, yeah. I thoroughly enjoyed it, by the way. Yeah, more of that, please. Yeah, indeed, yeah. I mean, Chelsea, get him back. Get him back. I like that he's called Mike Penders. I do. Sounds like you would be in a kind of US detective show maybe.

21:21I like, and when I like, when I say I like this bit, I'm for the record being sarcastic. I like how many Chelsea players is playing at Strasbourg as part of the multi-club model. Do you like it? Do you like it or is it a problem? I think it's bullshit. A number of the Strasbourg ultras don't like it, do they? They were complaining. Earlier in the season, some Strasbourg fans staged a 90 minute silent protest against Blueco, Chelsea's owners. and volunteer actors from a local theatre company wearing Strasbourg shirts were then drafted in to fill the stands and sing and play drums. Which is proper like supervillain stuff.

21:54But I think that shows you because other football clubs that would just kind of happen and you wouldn't think of doing that or like you just have empty seats and you'd go you'd try and sort of style it out or whatever. The fact is that they did that is just absolutely incredible. Blueco insisted that they did not pay for them or have the idea to do it. They just they did it on their own backs. On their own. They all just suddenly thought, you know what, guys, we need a team bonding trip. They just thought, what that multinational corporation needs is a bunch of volunteer actors getting down there and supporting the club for them randomly, inexplicably on just one game.

22:28When there happens to be, Marcus, a silent protest happening. Yeah, but as I say, some of the, I mean, in that story, some of the Strasbourg fans were very pissed off about this. And then, what's his name? The President Keller said, he was like, no, they think we're a feeder club. and his words were I don't think that we are. Yeah. You don't think. You need to be clear on that and then he said it's more like it's more like a a nibbling association. Yeah. His actual words were no it's more like we're like the little brother. Right. Oh great. And it's like oh that's really going to appease everybody you absolute moron.

23:02He said in England sometimes you use the term sister company. It's like it's just still. You've basically mapped it out. I also just don't like I know Ben Chilwell for example has signed permanently for Strasburg well he's benefited yeah he has but he's signed permanently alright I'm backing no but the problem is you don't want to see a European game where you know you see you're a Crystal Palace fan you're excited for them to play their first ever campaign in Europe as a club and all of a sudden you are playing essentially a glorified second Chelsea second it's like Real B and stuff isn't it it's like Barcelona B in the lower league I don't think we've got to this stage because I know that I think Chelsea have got three players on loan at Strasbourg of which you know some play some don't whatever it just feels a bit like an undermining of how the football should actually work well also as well when those players start to perform well Chelsea will come along and say oh well we'll take him for a bit yeah he's hungry yeah maybe we'll loan him back but it also and then there's a sudden sort of state of flux about certain players yeah and then there's also it's just a slightly different situation but it's nevertheless I think as corrosive if you look at say if you support a team in say League 2 or League 1 I can remember support in Portsmouth several seasons like at the end of each season the squad almost gets like decimated because you've got so many players on loan from Premier League clubs and they just go at the end of each season you've got to restart again but the problem is league clubs have got so little money generally there's no way you can't just buy players because you haven't got any money the loaning thing's and I appreciate again that quite clearly if a player is going to play out of their skin at Strasbourg they're going to get picked up elsewhere.

24:47But that's a more sort of cut and dry situation whereas this is it's all that sort of the vague greyness of it all which I think rubs fans up the wrong way. But look Strasbourg got themselves a victory. It seemed unlikely when Palace were 1-0 up and getting chance after chance. So this is the kind of game where Palace are going to they're going to learn from this because Strasbourg one of the better sides in the competition you would say. It's away from home you know it was quite a raucous atmosphere, et cetera, et cetera. Though, as I say, this is a learning curve for a group of players who are not that familiar with this sort of territory.

25:21Yeah, Strasbourg are one of the better teams in France, right? They're fifth in Ligue 1 at the moment. Yeah, and they're second in the European Conference League table. But, I mean, look, six points. I mean, that home loss against Llaner was a huge surprise, really. And again, that was a game that they should have put away. So they've got two wins out of four. I mean, it should really be at least three, and that's maybe being generous, four wins out of four. and it's weird because Glaslan's got such good experience in Europe he does yeah I know what you mean I mean maybe yeah I just think I think Palace fans this morning will be thinking what on earth are we doing why were we fighting each other and why did we not win that game I should say it was only a very very small group of Palace fans it's not going to be all of them is it that would be quite impressive on a level on an unhelpful level it would be more impressive every single fan had a fight yeah in an old fashioned man on man just kind of like in an old fashioned battle scene right we found a bit a wasteland and we were just going to charge each other.

26:12I mean, they did used to do that, didn't they? Maybe they still do. We don't hear about it. But if you're in a... We want to hear about it. No, we don't. Don't do that. We could become a proper naughty football channel, couldn't we? Violent. Talking to old thugs. The way you just said that makes me think we couldn't. Oh, I'm here with some proper naughty boys. Wait, tell us about the naughtiest things you've done. Did you see Patrick Vieira join Crystal Palace fans in the pub before? Is that why there was a fight? Maybe. Because Roy Keane was at the other end. Do you think that, is he kind of thinking that Glasner might be snapped up at some point?

26:44He's not going back. He's trying to stop you again? He's not going back to Palace. All right, fine. Or maybe. No, I don't think so. Well, look, Palace have got Manchester United on Sunday. And a lot of the players will be well rested because Glasner seems to think he can just sort of sleepwalk through this round of the European fixture. Oh, is that right? So they'll be back firing on all cylinders and I think they'll win this one. Okay, well, yeah, you've written off Manchester United. I have completely. Which used to be easier than... No, you see them against Everton, though. I feel very comfortable riding them off still.

27:15They were back to our favourite version of themselves. We don't even have Wayne Rooney hosing down 9am pasta for a 12 o 'clock kick-off. True. You know, any more. You've got to feel for the players when they're playing at 12. They are going to have to eat a very unpleasant breakfast. Why not? Surely, though, if you're trying to carb up and stuff. Porridge. Porridge, bananas. Don't they need more than that, though? Shredded wheat as well. A lot of them have to take the 15 asthma inhalers as well. Alan Shearer always used to eat chicken, breast and beans, didn't he? That was his big thing. Oh, God.

27:48That man is very vanilla, isn't he? Apparently that was his thing. It's not that bad, is it? It's quite vanilla. Chicken and beans. You know he's not having any spices on the end of the chicken, are you? No, he's not even putting a bit of HP sauce in his beans. Plain pasta and chicken is way more exciting. It's just, it's not great either way, though, is it? Donaldson's pre-exercise meals are a disgrace. that's where absolutely clear what's wrong on last night's curry Alan yeah yeah because you do it five minutes before kick off I've said it a lot but I'm going to say it again because it's contextual a massive large steak tartare which he then yacked up on the sidelines when I played with you I got hit in the head because Andy Brassel's too good at football yeah no because he's not good his aim was off because you were a sub you were a sub anyway Manchester United go to Crystal Palace and what about this, Matthias Cunha was supposed to do a Christmas light switch on in Altrincham last Saturday, but he pulled out the last minute.

28:44Do players keep doing this or is this the same story that I read before? I don't know. Because this is poor by them. We don't know the reasons, so if there are good reasons for it, fine. But until we find out those good reasons, yeah, it's poor. I just remember, was it last year? It might have been... Yeah, last year Crystal Palace absolutely thumped Man United at Sellers Park. They beat them 4-0. it would have been the season before last. So I don't think it's outrageous to say what Pete said about Man Utd struggling. No. I mean, the Everton game was really poor. Yeah. But, you know, Manchester United do have that in their locker.

29:23However, I mean, again, they are still in the top half of the table. Well, great. Tenth. Great. But that's the funny thing, the nature of this season. I mean, we just spoke about Aston Villa, a resurgent Aston Villa and rightly so they're three points off Villa who are in fourth. Yeah but we keep saying this I don't understand why all of a sudden not just our show but everyone starts talking about the league table like it's somehow interesting in November. It doesn't matter. But we're very close to December Luke. No but it's the teams are very close together quite simply because there's not been that many games yet.

29:56So it's fine. Talk to me about it in April and if that's still the case in April I'll be very surprised. So Wolves can relax with just two points from 12 games? I think part of it is they probably should relax and not worry about it, that particular element of it, because it's a long way to go. If you start thinking to yourself all the time that, oh yeah, we're in the relegation, we're rock bottom. I mean, it is November. Let's just not forget about that. Well, I'm fine, but people are switching the Christmas lights on. That is true. Well, they're not apparently. Mateus Cunha's not doing it. Mateus Cunha's not.

30:26He was supposed to do it with Sam Astin who plays Chesney in Coronation Street. I feel sorry for Sam Astin. I do too. It's a big moment for Mateus Cunha. It is. by far the country's biggest and most long running soap and he should be respectful of that I know it's been quite Pete heavy this show but I mean it is the Alex Zinn Highbury Holloway Road Christmas lights where I had to do it because he couldn't make it yeah why couldn't he make it he had prior engagements hangover which were he had to be in Wales oh he had to be in Wales what was he turning on the Wales Christmas lights he was turning on what year was this by the way 2007 yeah so when you turn so you turn up so I turned up it was supposed to be Alex Zinn and Cheeky Pete they put me on a Christmas bauble on the poster and then I came and did it did you get a classic ramble story yes I did actually of course you did I said Christmas is a time for disappointment and I'm here you've got to be listen you've got to be I was Sam Astin here I'm not moving on I was Sam Astin here we've heard the story before on the show but I am Sam Astin in this story piece so when you turn it on how do you do it is it like did you put a plug in or is it like the local councillor who was down the street with the actual button came up and turned them on and then came up and slated me by saying I didn't want to turn on the lights properly.

31:36I wasn't misinformed about how the lights were supposed to be turned on. It was a terrible night for me. This could have gone worse. Yeah. And you were drinking heavily, wouldn't you? At that point, no. On the job. I want to make it clear that the drop-off, and I mean this with love and respect to a long-time colleague and friend, but the drop-off to a 2007 Alex Zane to Pete Darnson is massive. At least I was a Holloway resident. He's up on the hill on Highgate. People don't care about that. They just want to see a famous face. I know. It was disappointing. At this point, Zane's doing probably RudeTube on Channel 4.

32:04He's apparently, I've got his Wikipedia page up in front of me, he's had small acting roles in Dawn of the Dead and Juice Bigelow, European Gigolo. Pete's not even on the Ramble at this point. No. Exactly, yeah. Pete's not known for anything, really. No. So I think the drop of people will have a right to be disappointed. Are you finally going to apologise to the people? Well, look, if Sam Aston and Chesney, slash Chesney from Coronation Street apologises, I'll apologise too. Well, I should say... other people's bad admin. In July of 2007, Alex Zayn is doing a big presenting role with Alexa Chung, who was probably dating Alex Turner at the time from Arctic Monkeys.

32:38The unlovable Popwell second. If I had taken my family up to see that Holloway Road and I'm seeing that guy... You're not taking your family to see Zayn. Probably not. Come on. Probably not. You go too far in. You think the band The Holloways would have turned off? Yeah. That'd have been nice. That'd have been better. I think the reasons, the stuff you're saying that he was doing at the time, that's why he wasn't there to do this. Of course. But Donaldson's not only turned up and played understudy, he's executed it in a very poor fashion. It's poor behaviour all round. I had to go back to my little bed seat in Holloway.

33:08But if people had left, going away from that, going, okay, Donaldson, it's not who I wanted, but his technique was fantastic. Well, it's not who I wanted because I didn't know he existed. But he's applied himself and he's done it well. Yeah, exactly. It wouldn't be as bad. That's the thing, Pete. I think people could have said, I've come there to see the lights go on, they've gone on. The little lad's done his best there. He could barely reach the switch. but he's done alright he's brought his own plunger he's got the wrong end of the stick who was England's top scorer going into World Cup 66 that's all I'm saying there we are who was it it's Greaves Greavesy wasn't it yeah didn't get picked did he yeah no or did he turn the lights on so you call yourself the Jeff Hurst of the Holloway Road Christmas lights now I am yeah I think it's all over wonderful well I should say Visit Altrincham announced the news by saying unfortunately Matthias has had an accident in training today will not be able to attend due to medical reasons shat his pants that does sound like is shat his pants.

33:58Straight away, I'm thinking, what's the accident? Tell us what it is. We deserve to know. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. Apparently, he could be back in the squad this Sunday. Of course he will. He'll play. He'll play. I tell you what, though, if I was connected to visit Altrincham in any sense, in any way, I'd be like, we've got to get tickets to that game and we will boo that. Turn off the lights. Imagine if he scored and he pulled out some Christmas lights out of his shorts. Yeah. Held them up. Held them up and going, ha, ha, ha. I think it would be Really, really disrespectful. And I don't think we should laugh about it.

34:26So there we are. That's Palace versus Manchester United. Everton versus Newcastle is on Saturday at 5.30, Peter. I think this is going to be a good one. Is there going to be any fisticuffs? Well, I don't know. I mean, like... Oh, yeah, of course. I forgot about that. Both teams have got a form. Newcastle is a bit further away. Idriss again, Michael Keane, did pretend to have a boxing match on social media to put their differences to rest after they scrapped on the pitch on Monday. Tiena Barry was the referee. Was it better than the Souness, Boya, Dyer, Hanshook? No, because that was great stuff.

34:57That was great stuff. The great stuff about that was that Souness did basically most of it. Do you remember outside the training ground or do you mean the press conference? Outside the training ground. Both of them were good. The training ground was brilliant because Souness basically does all the talking. Yes. And it's like Souness is reveling in it. Yeah. He's actually enjoying it. Of course he is. But he's not going right. Listen, the right thing to do here is to go out and apologize. We've got to get it over with. It's like a trip to the dentist. Just get it done. As soon as he's like this is my time to shine I'm getting out there You know what he said when he saw two of his own players Scrap and he said we've got a game back He was furious on one level but absolutely delighted on another But I thought that the address of gay Michael Keane pretend to have a boxing match on social media What else are they going to do?

35:38But it's very poorly done It was poorly What they should have done is they should have had an actual round of boxing where someone could have got punched properly I think they didn't even commit to it It didn't go on for more than about five seconds Well, they only had one pair of gloves. That's the problem. You get one glove each. That's poor. Yeah, take the gloves off and probably do it. Actually, we had to react to that game on Tuesday. So we didn't have an awful lot of time to kind of get involved with the history of teammates fighting with each other. But what I would say is that the Bruce Grobbler, Steve McManaman one was much worse than that.

36:09It wasn't even a stoppage. Do you think then that, I don't know if you gave your views on Tuesday, but I mean, I do kind of think you should basically, within the realms of the law and good practice, do whatever you want to your own teammates the referee that's what you said on the WhatsApp in defence of me saying that it was fine no I feel like I said on Tuesday I don't feel like Manchester United should have I mean they didn't benefit because they were fucking awful but they shouldn't benefit from that there should be something going on where I don't know maybe you could argue that the team has shown such ill discipline that maybe the other team should benefit from it I don't know yeah I mean it's a oh shoot it's an open shut case you can't just start throwing elbows and slaps everywhere well look in better news David David Moyes didn't ask me anything on Reddit.

36:51That was good. Yes. I quite liked reading through this. Some people were suggesting it was AI. There was a lot of very AI-y stuff. I feel like Moyes was telling the person who was taping what to say and he was just chucking it in the chat GPT. Can you just make this sound like more of an answer rather than no? But the chat GPT thing is really interesting because some of the answers that were given as potential examples of him answering with chat GPT, what I found really interesting was if I read it just straight I thought okay yeah I can see what you mean by that if I then read it imagining David Moyes' accent it actually seemed authentic to me yeah I agree with you I agree you reckon yeah his thoughts on like when great question no but his thoughts on his time at like Real Sociedad the way he's talking about I loved San Sebastian it was like a working holiday almost it was great I think it's a mix and a blend best food by far and all this kind of stuff and I was like I want to go there yeah I think also there was a revelation where he said San Sebastian big time Vish went there recently shows you the classian culture indeed but he said and this really surprised me that some people call him Dave I thought that I thought he'd be much more like harsh about people calling him Dave than he seemed to be he seemed to care I was really surprised and in Scotland Davey would be more common though Davey I don't know Davey maybe a bit maybe Scottish producer Rory is nodding he's had a little nod there yeah I just I thought he'd be one of those people who's noticed David like David Cartlidge yes or David Beckham famously yeah David Cuttich famously very very strict on his being called David is he?

38:23yeah he is he is he likes to be David I thought you were trying to no he does and David Beckham's another good example yeah very true but we call him Becks anyway Becksy baby we call him golden balls don't we his friends call him golden balls his wife does where did golden balls even come from? his wife I don't know oh right okay right taking the piss out of him he's the seven doctor Vicky B said it yeah do you fancy Newcastle to win though Peter? Well, they need to show something more than they did at the week, but they just can't score on the road. Or if they score early, they just can't seem to stay in the game.

38:55Can I put a theory as to why they won't win? So they bullied Man City. Yes. I think Man City are a team that can be bullied. That's their shortcoming. Yeah. I don't think Everton at Everton can be bullied. I think Everton will stand up to it. They'll bully themselves. Newcastle got bullied a little bit against Marseille. Did they? Okay. They were certainly very pressed. I think Everton might be okay here. I like that. I like that. well let's hope they don't fight among themselves right coming up after this we've got a top of the table clash in the Premier League

39:33Chelsea host Arsenal on Sunday at 4.30 it's the big one first versus second in the Premier League Arsenal could go at least seven points clear at the top with a win a win though for Chelsea would bring it back to three points. Luke Moore. You've been a league table doubter thus far, I'm sure. I have. You have been doubting this league table, but there is no doubt about it. Especially after that win against Bayern. Arsenal are the team to beat in England, the team to beat in Europe. Probably. I think you can kind of glean some information from the table, and that is that Arsenal are the best team in the league, and the Wolves are the worst team in the league.

40:10But that's all the glean you're going to be doing. Would you feel confident? I mean, it's a genuine question. Would you guys feel confident saying that you think definitively Chelsea are the second best team in the country? I think second place is up for grabs. A little bit by default more than anything else, though, you would say. Well, possibly. I think, you know, I'm very happy to give my views on Manchester City again, but I'm not that convinced. Aston Villa in fourth. I think that's maybe about, I mean, Palace fifth, Bryan sixth, Sunderland seventh, Bournemouth eighth. You know, that's, those positions, maybe other than Villa, you're a bit surprised that some of the teams are in there.

40:43we are expecting more from Liverpool at some point we're expecting more from Newcastle down in 14th I think we've got a right to expect more from Liverpool I think so you've got a right to expect more from Newcastle as well yeah right so you've got those two Spurs in 9th we'll see so in that I mean again in the top half other than Man City and Arsenal Chelsea have got the best squad so they're either the second or third best team I would say in the country certainly right now I mean, obviously the league position would say that. But they've got a chance, Chelsea, to do something. And if they can get a result here, which is not beyond the stretch of one's imagination, I think Arsenal are the best side.

41:23But if they win, all this kind of... I think Chelsea fans are very, very understandably very slow or very reluctant to commit to any kind of title talk. But if they win that game, you've got to start looking in that direction. But do you know how many times Chelsea have beaten Arsenal in the last 12 games? It's not like it used to be. One, I think. Yeah. I mean, you think about in the days of Drogba and so on. I mean, it used to be Chelsea, no matter what Arsenal were doing, no matter what Chelsea were doing, and it tended to be Chelsea were the better side, obviously, they would always just, they would just out-muscle Arsenal, wouldn't they?

41:55Right, yeah. I remember that game about 10 or so years ago where they beat them 6-0 at Stamford Bridge. Yeah, it wasn't even that. Like, Arsenal could apply themselves well, they could be going well, and then Chelsea would just go, I've had enough of this, and just out-muscle them and boom. it's now the other way around in some regards you know Arsenal are clearly the better side and they're ball you imagine they'll sort of get something there yeah I mean I tell you what you're echoing the thoughts of Joshua Kimmich there of Bayern Munich not for the first time yeah exactly similar men on and off the field I would say he was saying Arsenal rely on set pieces although part of the game wasn't it yeah Joshua indeed if you took away corner kicks and Arsenal was finding some way to do them Arsenal's got four open play goals against Spurs, didn't they?

42:41Against Spurs, they did. Yeah. And they scored a couple against Bayern as well. So one in the eye for old Joshy there. If I was Arsenal phoned about all this chat, I'd be delighted because it's just jaw clutching. Desperate, isn't it? One thing that is... I'd have played the can-can back down the phone. Well, do you know what he said, it was a bit of sour grapes. He said, I think PSG was our toughest opponent, especially the way they play football. Arsenal is completely different. I mean, you beat PSG and then you were soundly beaten by Arsenal. They love to play the long balls against PSG. it's more of a game of football today.

43:07It was not so much about football, it was about game management. I mean, it's such a sour grapes thing, isn't it? Yeah. But going for the purest thing. But you're right, Luke, when you say if you're Arsenal, you'd be absolutely loving this. Why do people act like set plays are not a part of the game? Yeah. And if that was Arsenal's only way of scoring and then that dried up, if everyone was defending them really well and repelling Arsenal corner kicks and Arsenal fans were going, all we're doing is relying on that. Yeah. We can't score from... But that's not what's going on. I mean they battered Bayern especially in that second half battered maybe slightly too strong a point they've beaten one of the best sides in Europe no doubt about that they put Spurs to the sword in the derby it's an absolute it's a tough assignment for Chelsea this I think they have been good that reversal at home to Sunderland aside they've been really good actually but they've won almost every other game in recent months so it will be a good game I guess the fear is that if Arsenal go there and just steamroll them then it's starting to look a bit like it did with Liverpool last season.

44:10It's starting to look a bit like it's a procession. Long way to go, as I've already said today. But they are clearly, you can sell by the stats, by the eye test, by everything really, that Arsenal are the best team in the league at the moment. And the only asterisk over it is whether they can sustain it for a whole season. I think the biggest, beating Bayern is massive for them, given their history of Bayern. They come up against Bayern in a tricky way not that long ago. It shows you where they are. Yeah. But also I think that, you know, losing Gabriel against Spurs, you know, there would be some Arsenal fans who'd be a bit like, oh God, what bad luck, you know, typical Spurs are going to come and fucking do something and it's going to be a nightmare.

44:48I mean, it wasn't like that. They were so much better. And part of that is down to Spurs, of course. I'd be really interested to see how Chelsea set up because the way Spurs set up was all wrong. Chelsea are better than Spurs, but they also have their limitations. They also have a bit of an issue, I think, with who their best team is. They also have a little bit of an issue with decisions as well. They've had quite a lot of red cards, for example. They are capable of a self-immolation, Chelsea. I would also play, I've said this for a few weeks now, I feel like he should be playing Esteval more.

45:19Well, he's getting him under pressure to do that. The reason I'm saying that is because I know Chelsea have got good options in wide forward areas. And Neto, for example, has picked up and is starting to make a big contribution now. but I sometimes feel like in football a big game like this Sunday tea time on the telly everyone's going to be watching it first versus second bit of X factor in there from a young kid who's not going to be nervous because he's so young and he's buzzing at the moment and he's capable of such amazing things I just think it's a big if you're at home the fans will be delighted to see Esteval start if he starts he gets in there early and starts really asking questions of Arsenal it can be a different type of game and I wonder whether Maresca will have the bravery to do that I think he might just be a bit more systemic about it Esteval's going to go to the very top he's going to be a world beating player I mean and so I think after the way he played against Barcelona I think he deserves to start and I think it can give Arsenal something to think about and at the moment the only thing you can really say about Arsenal is not enough teams are giving them enough time to think about you know and I know it's easier said than done but Chelsea do have the players who have the ability to do that and I'd like to see it happen and it's a really interesting few games for Arsenal because again you've got the Derby now I wasn't worried at all for Arsenal in that Derby as it showed to be but it's still a Derby game and you've still got you know Spurs have been good on the roads you know by and large this season whatever one may think All the roads Well not all the roads Right Specifically not the Holloway roads Yes Again Again Whoever's turning on the lights They would fuck up the lights being turned on as badly as you did So they did that then Bayern great victory and now away to Chelsea who is second in the league it's going to be great and I'm really interested to see the matchups between the wingers and the full backs you mentioned Esteval there would you like to see him play as well?

47:11I'd love to see him play do you think Mureski will pick him? I think that he he should it depends how Esteval is if he's I can't imagine you know I know it was against Barcelona but I mean they really you know they played with such a plomb you know it wasn't a particularly strenuous game for them in a kind of a back and forth kind of sense and it was at home so I'd be surprised if he doesn't go with Esteveu with the confidence he's playing with because this would be such a big result if Chelsea can get something here I think Neto can play on either side yeah he played almost like a false nine against Barcelona didn't he yeah he did so I wonder if he'll go for that actually a similar setup I think Garnaccio's done okay since he's gone in there I think he could look quite lovely and he came off so he may well do that but who are Arsenal going to go at left back possibly Calafiore maybe to deal with Esteveu you'd think but there's some interesting matchups as well he will play Calafiore for sure yeah who is going to be up against Mark Cucurea it's going to be Bakayosaka Robert Sanchez said with regard to Lamin-Yamal against Barcelona Cucurea has him in the bag everyone is great until they come to the Premier League and get in the bag people shouldn't be confused between the fact that Cucurea seems like a complete prick and the fact that he's really good I mean he's brilliant he's a brilliant player do you think he's a prick I think so yeah why is that don't have time for that do we alright let's move on it's a hair it's not just a hair it's because he's got curly hair like you and if you grew your hair that's what it would look like if it went really long it's because he was a part played his part in Spain beating England in the Euros final that as well then sang a shitty song Jim's really good on why Cucarillo's an arsehole right okay he makes time he's back on ask him fair fair fair fair fair oh do you see Chelsea's plans to build a new stadium at Earl's Court have ended in the Earl's Court area in London they tried to get back to see Power Station in London as well they did yeah It would look like the new Birmingham one with the big chimneys there.

49:01I'm well surprised to hear that it's really difficult to build a massive thing. I know, right? But Birmingham City, you're right, Peter, they've got a new stadium plan out. The initial design features 12 chimneys as a part of the stadium. I quite like it. Is that controversial or something that I quite like it? I know nothing about architecture. I absolutely love it. Is this one of those things that it's good for us but it might not be good for the Birmingham City fans if they turn up? Well, I don't know. Well, unless if one of the chimneys, if it's not been sort of erected properly, if they've not had Fred Dimner in to have a look at it.

49:30I mean, I quite like it as well, looking at it now. It's 62 ,000 seater with the 12 chimneys. Optimistic. It does. The way you said that is like each chimney's a seat as well. Yeah. It would only be 61 ,000. Try ripping them out, young boys. Yeah. Maybe, yeah, it does seem unnecessary. Can I be cynical? I'll just say that back under the... Someone's bought 12 chimneys and you need to get rid of them. No, I wasn't going to go down that road. It's actually even more cynical. When Portsmouth under Milan Mandarich would have a particularly difficult time or things weren't going as well. He'd erect a chimney.

50:01He'd get the architect. It felt quite like they'd hire architects quite a lot. Oh, okay. I know you guys need a new stadium. I've thought about doing this. One of them was like a massive one that floated in Portsmouth Harbour. And people were like, this will be brilliant. Nice. It's like, yeah, it contains technology that doesn't yet exist. So I think maybe it's a bit of a distraction technique. We bought that North Korean ferry hotel. Yeah, exactly. We converted into a stadium. But Chelsea have been after it. I mean, the saga of Chelsea wanting a new stadium It's as old as time. It's a tale as old as time.

50:27Yep. It's Beauty and the Beast. It really is. They're underground. People are happy underground. There we go. Is that a War of the Worlds reference? No, it's a bandage, the song Underground. Going underground. No. The jam. Not the jam. This is one of your worst anecdotes. Indie boy with a keyboard. Ben Folds 5. Oh, okay. People are happy underground. Oh, of course it is. Yeah, yeah. I know this song. I know this song. But was he referencing War of the Worlds? he was referencing the Chelsea possibilities of building a stadium underground what part of London would you build it under? the main part underneath the stadium they've got now I think I'm they already own that land Peter but you can have a little bit more if you go underground I think I'm winning the battle of who could care less yes nice little reference nice very good now then everybody that's what we do on this show if someone makes a really good reference we don't just let the listeners enjoy it we go no we like that that's good yeah doesn't happen often enough start a post on the discards Did we like this, guys?

51:25Yeah, let's move on. Little, little, little, little, little chat for the upcoming My Biddy Aunt episode this afternoon. It's that guy. He's got the belt. It's his only belt, but it's still a belt. It's Luke Aaron Moore, the champ, and he faces Pete Donaldson. It's the second. Did you give me a little My Biddy Aunt catchphrase? Biddy, biddy, biddy. Yeah. I hope you're ready. I've got my own catchphrase. So you've come the closest. It's my Austin 316. You've come to the. Biddy, biddy, biddy. You've come the closest to beating me of anyone recently on My Biddy Aunt. You went two in a lap against me and I won three too.

51:56That was the Parker incident, wasn't it, I suppose? It was. It felt like, if I may be so bold, and Marcus will take issue with this, but I'm going to go for it anyway. It felt a bit like, you know, Man City have been drawn against a non-league side in the third round. See, the mind games are already starting, Peter. Mind games. Mind games. Mind games. Yeah. When you play Moe, but the aunt, it's like the camera's coming to town because you're playing me and they ask you what your proper job is. Peter, I speak on behalf of everybody connected. to this podcast but we want you to win well look it'll be a clean game because Marcus is he knows his stuff yeah I mean I could make it a little bit dirty in your favour or could he but we'll see I'll be very interested to see how the game is refereed later well of course my buddy aunt will be available to listen to later today make sure to subscribe to the Football Ramble in your podcast app so that you never miss an episode thank you for listening to the Football Ramble part of the ACAR's Creator Network thank you Luke Moore thank you thank you Pete Donaldson We'll see you later for my biddy aunt and an opening of the Gates to the Weekend.

52:59Looking forward to it.

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