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3:01Luke Moore: We've got the big beat Everybody Welcome to the Football Rumble Preview show The Manchester Derby Is here with Jack Grealish Had a big birthday bash It's Friday 12th September I'm Marcus Speller I'm Luke Moore And I'm Pete Donaldson

3:25Luke Moore: Hello, everybody. It's Friday. Of course it is, Peter. We're back. It's weird because, like, I wasn't looking forward to the international break and then the first England match happened and I didn't want to see the second one, but then the second one was good and now I'm confused. I kind of want more international break, but then there's, you know, Newcastle Wolves. Yeah, it is. Do you know what will help you with this international conundrum is a simple apology to Thomas Tuchel and me. Yeah. Now's your chance. Yeah, I'd like to see that as well. I'd like to apologise to everybody for everything I've done.

3:56Luke Moore: We don't have time for that, but the gesture is... That's because I have to go beyond a paywall. I think the gesture is nice, and it is what Fridays are all about. Bringing people together, Luke Moore, that's what we're here to do. We are. Get the keys ready? Very ready. Good. And the Manchester Derby brings people together. Yeah, that is definitely one way of pre-promoting it, trailing it. Is it the friendly Derby? Oh, you know the friendly derby is the Liverpool derby. Come on. Well, there might be another friendly derby on Sunday. Ooh. We'll come to that later, I expect. Oh, will we now? Yeah.

4:25Luke Moore: Well, look, Manchester City host Manchester United, of course, on Sunday at 4.30. Manchester United got four points in Manchester derby's last season. They sure did, thanks to, partly to, it was a Mateus Nunez complete meltdown. Do you remember that thing he did, where he did a really poor back pass? Yes. Then tried to make up for it, tried way too hard, and then took someone out for a penalty? Yes. It was pleasing. It is. Amadiyala was involved. He was. He was very much involved. He scored the last minute goal as well. Gary Neville was essentially just wholly unprofessional in the commentary, from what I remember.

4:59The commentator was trying to commentate what was actually happening, which is the role. And in the background, you just heard Neville going, Oh, you believe it. Neville, you're at work. I know. Was it a comedy of errors, would you say? It was. I think it was definitely in a period of time where Man City were never more than they were always in the same postcode as a comedy of errors yeah it was a golden period

5:24Luke Moore: of Premier League football it's part of the reason why last season was a really funny season yeah it was a bit it was yeah I mean this one Man City of course will be favourites as they have been for so many years now and I yeah I can't really make an argument for Manchester United Peter well but that's how it goes though isn't it yeah but last season I mean again and I know that you're lining up for this Marcus thinking this is going to be an absolute bloodbath and that's why you're watching it for partly reason because you're neutral but it'll end up being like 1-0 I mean at the end of the day Man United have been better than their results they've created more than anyone else in the Premier League this season they're just not putting them away at some point it's going to come good it was a spirited comeback against Grimsby although they lost on penalties I'd write you that but Pete to back you up on that sorry to cut in but to back you up on that if you look at shots per game in the Premier League so far this season may not have the top with five more shots per game on average than the next best team.

6:19Luke Moore: Yeah, well that's what happens when you put Bruno Fernandes, Brian Abumo and Mateus Cunha in the same team. It's just incredible. Long shot party. Yeah, but you would just think that they haven't scored. But that was literally the reason why I thought Mateus Cunha in particular was a good signing. Because he thought, well, if you can't create much and they don't get that near the goal, then at least he's good for a 25-yarder. Do you not think that like practicing against Anane, he's quite an unpredictable, unconventional goalkeeper. so maybe they're just not sure where to hit the ball that would be a long rain shot now wouldn't it shooting against him in Turkey from Manchester exactly yeah I think so the goalkeeping issue is really interesting but it's probably the most interesting thing about this game well I would say yeah well they've obviously signed young Belgium Sene Lemens and so he'll be in contention with Altair Biondia and Tom Heaton Tommy in there he's a registered goalkeeper at Manchester United he is a registered goalkeeper a lot of the people a lot of his colleagues are very keen to see him in bins, but I don't think it's going to happen.

7:14Luke Moore: A lot of your colleagues are as well. A lot of my colleagues are. One of my colleagues. No, I am as well. Would it be fair to say you could rate it as quite a damning indictment if Tom Heaton starts the Manchester derby? He's not going to start. The same week that they've just signed a brand new goalkeeper. All we want is him on the bench. That's realistic. That's what we were let down in the previous fixture where there was serious chat. There was. Marcus, all we did was we had the audacity of hope, didn't we? And it was cruelly snatched from us, wasn't it? It was. Wasn't it snatched from us, wasn't it?

7:45Oh, it was. It felt awful. It's like when that non-league keeper was going to sign for that... I can't remember which side it was. Don't look at me with that eye. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Don't put this on me. You know what I mean? There was a big fat 50-year-old non-league goalkeeper. Oh, the pie man. The roly-poly goalie.

7:57Luke Moore: The roly-poly goalie. It sat in United. He got sacked, didn't he? Yeah. I wasn't thinking of that goalkeeper, but similar vibe. Wayne Shaw's name has looked him up. similar vibes he's not going to play no I'm talking about quite recently I think it's Forest Green Rovers I think we're going to sign Dawking Wanderers Dawking Wanderers are going to sign a goalkeeper they did he was 54 temporarily yeah but they didn't use him in the end so we had that lovely ramble story that didn't happen you guys talked about an 82 year old Italian keeper the other day it's a good point actually and Pete get him in Pete uttered the very sensible advice to the players playing against him make sure you get your rebounds because he ain't getting up again but that said he will be an old school goalkeeper who will keep hold of the ball and not parry it.

8:33Maybe, yeah, that's a good point. The direction this conversation has taken is simply disrespectful to Tom Heaton, who's a good pro, still in his 30s. That's the fact. Still in his 30s. And hopefully we'll still be in contention for the game come Sunday. But, listen, Amarim's biggest decision, maybe I phrased it wrong. Maybe I said, oh, it's the most interesting part of this game. Perhaps that's going too far. but unquestionably the biggest decision that Ruben Amorim has to make is who he plays in goal. It is. Because it makes the optics are very very big.

9:09Luke Moore: Indeed. And Andre and Arna are obviously going out to Turquia Luke Moore. Sorry yeah I should have been more respectful of the Turkish people I apologise. Turquia. And to Andy Brasel. Well that's the big one. That's you know again it's the Manchester United way isn't it at the moment but Amorim did say or he certainly believes apparently that the departure of Inanna clears Manchester United of negative influences that he sees is key to his rebuild. He would say that, wouldn't he? But I do stress that a source has claimed that it felt like Andre was there just to show up and he wasn't there or showing any team mentality.

9:50Luke Moore: And apparently, Amarim was unhappy that Inanna had picked up on a hamstring injury at the start of the season after being filmed playing on a mud patch in his homeland in June. and this, that and the other. So whatever the reasons are, Amorim clearly didn't want Anana there. He's gone. And they have signed a new goalkeeper. Are we getting to the point now where the old saying that if everyone you meets a dickhead, you're probably a dickhead. Well, this is it. Amorim to me is running out of road a bit here. Yeah. And with the caveat that if he was playing in concrete in London, it would be a slightly different story.

10:19It's a slightly distasteful kind of aspect to that, I think. But I think, yeah, he was an unpredictable goalkeeper. I don't think the goalkeeping issue is the biggest deal in Amarin's problem. But you're right. He can't keep using this excuse that, oh, it's bad vibes. My footballers aren't playing. He's got a responsibility for the vibes. Hasn't he? He's got a lead. Get yourself a boombox. Get some R &B on. You've got to curate the vibes. Yeah. He is ultimately the ultimate vibesman. He has to be. Do you need a DJ? Yeah. Do you need an ex-radio DJ to play some tunes? Who's got some really, Marcus, to be fair to Pete, say what you like about him.

10:53A lot of CDs. serious experience on the no repeat guarantee exactly yeah

10:57Luke Moore: much like Ebenezer Good he created the vibe so we'll certainly give you that it's not the only comparison with Ebenezer Good I can think of come on why do you always say that I'm a drug addict we haven't got a sponsor this at the moment so I won't talk about drugs I've taken drugs in ages

11:17over the counter every day the first thing you said when you walked in this world has anyone got a spare inhaler can we get a sponsor here.

11:24Luke Moore: I don't care who it is. The good people are buidenocide listening. We need a bloody sponsor as soon as possible. I don't give a damn if it's a cigarette company now. Anosol. Anosol. Anosol. Yeah, get the ass cream. Get the anosol. Get the ass cream. Anything. That's what I'm going to say with another left. Right, get the ass cream. Get the ass cream. But you know, you have a responsibility as the manager to be the ultimate vibes man. You create the environment. Like, for example, Mikel Arteta. The vibe he's created it is admittedly quite mental. But he's created it. We're going to talk about Everton soon.

11:56Okay, exactly. I mean, Grealish is bringing the vibes there.

12:00Luke Moore: But who brought him in to help out with the vibes? The Grim Reaper himself. Wow. The ferryman. Yeah. The ferryman who's now turned his ferry into like a pleasure cruise. The Grim Reaper. The Grim Reaper. There we go. I had something to say about Onana. What was it? He was also getting dog's abuse for that ridiculous error he made for Cameroon to the point where he got caught on camera. Was he pushing? he basically elbowed a Cameroon fan in the face to get rid of him because he was getting hounded it was very distasteful but you say that Anan is an unpredictable goalkeeper I actually found him super predictable by which I mean if there's a shot he ain't saving it if there's a cross he ain't getting it you know what's going to happen what about the what about Manchester City's goalkeeping situation because Big Donnarumma's there it's easy to forget it I mean I mean that's almost Your 25-yarders aren't going to work against them.

12:53No, it's almost worth kind of like a goal, isn't it, right? Well, we're not going to score a goal this afternoon. It's easy at United, isn't it? United have had their own goalkeeping errors, issues. They need to find a keeper. They've farmed one out who's apparently a problem. They've brought one in a while back who's turned out to be shit. They've got one who's about 40, and they've finally brought one in that no one's ever heard of, and the city, in about a week, just gets Donnarumma. It's an absolute dig. And the first game is the battle of the keepers.

13:18Luke Moore: Yeah, right. But it's been said many times and everybody's thought it. Don Rumor is not the type of keeper that Guardia likes. But you guys have had discussions on this on shows that I haven't been on. Not in detail, but you've kind of referenced it and alluded to it. There's been quite a lot of chat among the discourse more generally about the way football's going tactically. And I think the lens that you guys looked at it through last week was Thomas Tuchel talking about long throws. But that just seems to be the way that football's going at the moment. Man City are occasionally going more direct.

13:52Yeah, but they did with Edison. Edison could,

13:54Luke Moore: you know, he could hit a 50 pence piece from 60 yards. Yeah, and I don't think Dollar River can do that, but maybe... Clearly he can't be awful because he plays for Paris Saint-Germain and won the Champions League. I think he's a brilliant keeper. No, no, as in that stuff, but yeah. So maybe, I think, maybe this has been overblown a bit because Luis Enrique, you know what it's like. You win the Champions League, as we all know what that's like. No, but we've seen this before. A manager wins a major trophy or producers aside, which is just playing wonderful football. But they do have to reinvent it.

14:21Luke Moore: Even Guardiola in his glory years at Barcelona, even his glory years at Manchester City, but glory years at Barcelona, the side who won the Champions League the first time is very different. Not very different, but it was certainly noticeably different to the side that won it, was it two years later or whenever it was. Not just the personnel, but even the style of play actually. So I get the fact that Luis Enrique thinks like, you know, Don Remy obviously played his part and is an absolute adonis in goal. It was shot stopping. he's basically Thanos I'm not sure we've seen a finer goalkeeper maybe Alisson or anyway he's one of the finest we'll leave it at that but with the stuff if Luis Enrique does want to just mix it up a little bit and he's got to be a little bit quicker with his feet and maybe a little bit more precise then okay I don't think it's a case of bloody hell I don't know how we won it with this idiot in goal right off you go mate I don't think that's the chat I think my point was that being good with your feet is twofold it's delivering the ball but also not being absolutely destroyed by a bit of pressure now Donovan was like won you know won massive tournaments of the Champions League and stuff like that so he's clearly got the temperament to sort of be able to deal with anything he's not going to be like passing it out you know six yards to a striker he says unless he does that I don't think Haaland's going to drop that team it's just also the nerds get involved don't they and start talking about past completion but they're welcome in football everyone's welcome they're not welcome in the studios and I'm just more welcome than others well look it's I just think that Donnarumma's a brilliant goalkeeper and I sometimes that's enough isn't it yeah if you can keep the ball out of your net quite effectively then I think you're going to do okay but yeah I think the rest of the Premier League when Man City get Donnarumma it is a bit like oh bollocks psychologically that's a blow certainly to Man City on Sunday but look if they've taken that many shots they're going to have to really be a little bit more accurate Amarim well the thing is Amorim's got so much pressure on himself whoever he picks in goal.

16:18I think you're right, Peter. It's going to be Lamens because otherwise, how are you going to set him up to be confident to play? It's a huge game to come into. Exactly. And if he does pick Bayern Deer, I mean, Bayern Deer is objectively a very poor goalkeeper. Certainly from crosses. Well, I mean, I guess, yes, exactly. That's putting a bit more of a finer point on it. But also, I suppose you could add that who is good at United? Not many people. So maybe it's not his fault. And he's obviously not going to pick Heaton. So there's going to be a huge amount of pressure.

16:43Luke Moore: I mean, if you look at Levin's record Antwerp is of course where he's been playing I've literally never seen him play yeah I mean he really only had one full season which was in the Belgian Pro League he's had he's had one he's played in one European match he's never played for the Belgian first team he's 23 but you know we've seen young young lads go in before and actually you know do okay but on paper you're thinking that's a big game for him to go into poor old Emi Martinez he's still waiting by the phone I think Emi Martinez has speaking of vibes understood that he's not going to Manchester United just yet I think so he's going to spend his time destroying Aston Villa maybe until January what about Erling Haaland returning from the international break with six more international goals and three new stitches yeah did you see that he required stitches after getting banged out apparently by a bus door I don't think it was the door I think it might have been the luggage compartment thing that comes up that gets him in the mouth That feels more vicious, doesn't it?

17:44Luke Moore: Yeah, but it was described as he was banged out by it. Yeah. As if he's entered some sort of duel and he's lost out to it. He's also a delightfully simple character, isn't he? If you look at his Instagram, he says something like, this happened, I think it looks quite cool, lol. I don't think he's a simple character. I think he's one of the better footballing social media users, I would say. I agree with that, yeah. I think he just doesn't give a damn, does he? No, he doesn't. And you cannot give a damn when you've scored five in midweek. I mean, I was feeling a little bit down this morning and then I watched him doing an advert, basically filming behind the scenes footage of a Norwegian fish company advert and it just made me happy.

18:22I don't know why.

18:23Luke Moore: Got your capitalist juices going again, didn't it? Got my capitalist juices, yeah. I think it's one of the most Norwegian stories I've ever heard. Godfisk. Is that what they're called? Godfisk. Okay, cool. I like it. Will you turn me around? He was apparently very apologetic after scoring all his goals against Moldova, wasn't he? He was, yeah. Yeah, the Moldova keeper said that Harlan kept apologizing to him after every goal. Which again sounds like a piss table. He said, it's not my fault but we have to keep scoring for the goal difference. He needs to buy us that bus because that's not passing the MOT after that, is it?

18:50No, probably not. You should have seen the state of the bus.

18:53Luke Moore: But Arlen should pass his MOT for the game though. He should. I imagine he will. And I also think that there was an element, I think I might have talked about this on Wednesday, there was an element of this where Moldova were not helping themselves in any way. If it gets to the point where you're 9-1 down, just launch it just get rid of the ball get the ball away from your own goal just as a starting point to start off stop trying to play it out from the back when Harland is basically eating you up now gentlemen I think it's fair to say that Manchester United may not be recruiting any Manchester City fans any time soon I bet there are some in there probably, some of them snuck in because, some of you have seen this, a judge has ruled that football fans can be denied a job if they support a rival team to colleagues.

19:47Luke Moore: Have you seen this? Yeah, wasn't there a... Yeah, I mean, it seems like a weird thing for a cot to get involved with. You didn't know this, did you, when David Cartlidge, Sunderland fan, started... I know, yeah. ...contributing. And Sunderland started well, by the way, as predicted by David Cartlidge. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got dogs abuse on the social... I was like, he knows what he's talking about. Compared to me. So this all came from... It was a marketing agency who decided not to give a candidate a job because they didn't vibe with them. Yeah. And that's exactly the sort of shit you get from that kind of agency.

20:18Was it Ruben Aberim? It wasn't Ruben Aberim,

20:20Luke Moore: but I think the person who didn't get that job has probably dodged a bullet, as you say, Peter. It feels a bit Harry Kane's brother kind of office. A little bit. He works on his own, doesn't he? He does look kind of lonely. I think he's just on his own. Him and his bike. Him and his hog. I've never seen Charlie Kane in a photo with anyone else other than Harry Kane. Does he know anyone else? He's either alone or his brother. Well, I mean, on a more serious note, what happened was that a woman lost out on this job because she said she would struggle to socialise at the pub as she suffered from depression and drinking was not in her culture.

20:54Luke Moore: Well, that's not the vibe we want, so you're not having the job. And this has been extrapolated out by people, and a judge in particular. And it was said in the article, an example of this could be a small company where everybody who works in the office is an ardent supporter of Arsenal Football Club. And they decided to become an Arsenal fan at the interview over a similarly qualified Tottenham Hotspur season ticket holder because they don't want to damage the harmony of the office. I don't think the judge should be freestyling. I also found it interesting in the tribunal, the marketing woman that interviewed the candidate for the whole case to happen said that, she said to an actual employment tribunal, I just vibed more with the other applicant.

21:36Luke Moore: yeah I'm not sure that's got a foundation of employment law again apparently it has I'm quite sure that when all's said and done he's much better off maybe not to work with that company maybe although when she did say right well you're going to have to down that and then down that and the quickest one gets the job I thought that was a bit much and by the way has anyone got a spare inhaler yeah that didn't happen that we know of but in that scenario listed by that judge yeah arguably if we are going to indulge this quite ridiculous fantasy for a moment it would kind of work both ways wouldn't it because it might be reasonable to suggest that if you are going to take a decision based on that you probably should inform the candidate that every single person in the office is an Arsenal fan and you're going to get dogs abuse every day, you might not want it yourself either but I thought you were going to say it works the other way, so they say to the judge alright who do you support?

22:27Luke Moore: and then whoever they say, you pick the opposite side and then you get another judge I request a different judge one might suggest that London football rivalry isn't that important. Yeah, I mean, Arsenal Spurs is not a big derby. Honestly, I just look at it and I say... I can go to a break anytime. I can go to a break anytime you want. I'm just giving him the option. Hold up, hold up. Let him cook. I just think it's... YouTube commenter. I just think it's an underwhelming rivalry. What, all London clubs? Just mainly Arsenal Spurs, to be honest. I don't know why people get so upset about it. Yeah.

22:59You live in each other's pockets. Marcus. Isn't that what a derby's about?

23:03Luke Moore: it's the Seven Sisters road they connect both clubs pretty much yeah you should go to Dundee mate it's absolutely no rivalry I can't wait to hear what we've got to say about the South Coast Derby later it is true isn't it the closer the teams are the friendly they are because they live in harmony in many ways that's the story of civilisation I would say isn't it yeah coming up after this Jack Grealish celebrated his 30th birthday in style

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25:56Luke Moore: What about Aston Villa, your old side? Have you had some big things this evening? Yeah, I think it's a lot we said earlier. They've won. Oh. And there's a goal. Welcome back to the football ramble, everybody. Yeah, Everton versus Aston Villa, Saturday at 3pm. The Jack Grealish derby. A Jack Grealish derby. Jack, Jack. Yeah. But yes, he spent the international break celebrating his 30th birthday. Prior to the big celebration, which we'll get to in a minute, Apparently, according to one article, the winger had earlier treated himself to a seven-hour pub crawl in Sweden during the break before flying back to set up his birthday celebration.

26:32I mean, seven-hour pub crawl makes it sound bad.

26:35Luke Moore: Sweden. Yeah, but... He's flying out for that. I mean, if you go out at 5pm and you're out till midnight, that's a standard. That's a standard evening, isn't it? Yeah, that's not that bad. The pub crawl is probably, what, anything more than two pubs. So it could be three pubs across seven. That's not that bad. He's probably waiting for darkness to fall, but it never did. Maybe. Well, this time of year, would be starting to get that up. Depends in Sweden where he was. I also like the fact that he's not let a disappointment in terms of the international squad get in his way. Oh, I make the most of it.

27:05Well, because the thing is... Do you think that's why he didn't get picked? Well, I was going to say that. Thomas Tuchel saw. No, because Marcus, the thing is, you're about to come on to say that he had his own festival for his birthday. That takes planning. I don't care who you are.

27:16Luke Moore: Yeah, it does. He needs to have been pretty sure that he wasn't going to be into the international football. Yeah, do you know what? I didn't think about that Until about three seconds ago. Well, yeah. What did they do to just put his England game on the big screen? Oh, that'd have been nice. Well, he was celebrating his 30th birthday with a festival-themed party called Grealfield. It's great. Is that name great or is it awful? No, it's both, isn't it? It's quite clearly both. It's a torturous wordplay. I would say that we are very, very lucky to have a player these days if that personality type still playing at the very top of the game.

27:49because you don't get an awful lot of that now. I know it's an old person thing to say but you just don't because of the way the football players are created now. Almost like made in a lab and Grealish has got a huge personality and it's a massive thing. I love the photos of it. I love that he was there with Brucey.

28:06Luke Moore: Stevie Bruce was there. That was great, wasn't it? Wayne Rooney was there. Of course. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Wazza was there. That's lovely. So it was a festival style tent which looked great by the way. It had been transformed into a nightclub complete with giant LED screens flashing his name. The final I saw was the three big screens were just grill fields across them. A DJ booth in the middle. Disco balls and obviously a DJ booth. I wonder if old DJ Griller had a go himself. So yes, Everton and Aston Villa, quite contrasting seasons so far. Everton, of course, fifth in the table, two wins from three games, have impressed.

28:41Luke Moore: Villa, 19th with only one point so far. Peter Donaldson, are you concerned for the Brummies? I am a little bit. I mean I think they've signed relatively well Javier let's huge signing for them and he presumably will play because he's been given number nine hasn't he yes and I just hope they manage to sort of I could see Emery walking away this season if they are middle of the table kind of concern I really could to see him I don't think he's been supported quite as much as he possibly could have is he the man who can get a tune out of Jadon Sancho because he's obviously helped Marcus Rashford kind of rejuvenate his career a bit although I think we all suspected Rashford had that in the tank.

29:20Luke Moore: With Sancho, obviously a player there, he's gone from team to team and unless he's at Borussia Dortmund, doesn't seem to quite click. Although he had moments at Chelsea. It's a sort of team, it's a little bit like being under Eddie Howe, isn't it? It's kind of like there are managers who can improve you. We were talking about the Manchester United keeper situation and the goalkeeper who's played for Antwerp for a little while and come over. You kind of need to hit the ground running because of the exposure you get as a Manchester United player. in Aston Villa's case it's completely different I think you can develop a little bit and I mean obviously it's a bit of a last chance for Jadon Sancho in the state Do you reckon he's a last chance already yeah?

29:55I think so the way that He's had a lot of chances but he's only 25

29:57Luke Moore: Well it may be in terms of playing for teams in England specifically at that level although I think unless he has a shocker I think he'll always have suitors but yeah it could be slightly further down Because what you find is that managers always feel like they're the ones that can get a tune out of them But we know what he can produce on the pitch so it's all about just trying to access that what's funny is that I feel like with the connections involved I feel like David Moyes probably would have known that Sancho was available and he's obviously playing occupying the same position as Grealish who they eventually signed instead and Moyes I would be surprised if Moyes passed on him someone like Everton he'd probably be brilliant you could see him doing really well there now he's not there he's at Villa I think but maybe Sancho passed on them maybe but I would just say I don't think you can necessarily I agree with a lot of what Pete said there actually but I don't think you can necessarily say that Emery hasn't been supported.

30:50He's been given a lot of players and I know that they haven't spent an awful lot of money this transfer window. They've relied on loans and they've had one big signing in Evan Gesson from Nice.

31:01Luke Moore: Well, the financial situation at Villa is... Exactly. And they're not getting the Champions League as well. The problem with Villa this season is I think they get into a situation where pretty much every club other than Valencia, which was some years ago now, Emery, he gets to that point where he just starts to, I don't know, shuffle his feet or want to move on. He never stays at a job for that long and he's been at Villa for quite a long time. What can he realistically do with Villa? It is get into the Champions League. Fine, but I don't think that's necessarily the point because Emery's best work as a manager has been at that level of clubs slightly below the elite and he's been able to do things like pick up Europa League trophies and do really well and deliver perhaps slightly unfancy clubs to higher level and he's done that with Villa because he got them into the Champions League, right?

31:46I'm just feeling like it might be coming towards the end of the line now.

31:49Luke Moore: Well, inertia sets in. Yeah, and the way they started this season has been very poor and I think the Emi Martinez saga kind of affected them badly and if you look at Everton, it's basically the inverse of that. It's the opposite of it. What has Moyes done at a club like Everton who are a similar sized club to Villa, you know, he's set them with a really good basis from which to play from. Everyone knows their jobs and he's peppered that with some exciting attacking players. You look at like the front four that they'll play against Villa will probably be Grealish and Dye, who was brilliant last season and is a good player.

32:20Kinnan Dewsbury Halls found his feet and Beto, who I think is a much better striker than people give him credit for. That's a good front four on top of a really solid base. I think Everton are going to do pretty well this season. And I can't see Villa, based on what we've seen so far, go to the Hill Dickinson Stadium, as it's known now, and get something. And the final thing I'll say is the most damning indictment of Aston Villa's start of the season has been how good Esri Concer and Morgan Rodgers look for England. And they've both looked really poor for Villa so far this season.

32:51Luke Moore: Yeah. Well, Everton, they have struggled to score goals. It's quite clear in recent seasons. The last four seasons, they've been 19th, 19th, 17th, and 13th lowest scorers in those seasons. Under Dyche, towards the end of his tenure, I mean, they just simply weren't scoring goals. I think that's the story of the managers they've had though, isn't it? It is, yeah. Because Dice doesn't really try and score goals. No, and that's why I think when Moyes came in, as a lot of people have made the point, it was like, is it just slightly better than the same that we've had? Well, so far, I mean, even when he took over at the end of last season, but really now with that summer and some of the signings he's got, it bodes very well.

33:32Luke Moore: Look, we're only a few games in. So, again, early days and all that sort of stuff. They should be undefeated, by the way, as well, because the only reason they lost to Leeds on the opening day was because of absolute preposterous refereeing decisions. I mean, well, the funny thing was against Leeds, it did look pretty poor, actually. Leeds were the better side and Moyes admitted that. But Leeds look totally toothless though. They did, but, but, but, you know, a couple of games later and suddenly everyone's purring about Everton and Moyes and it's great. I just think the eye test, they look really good.

33:57They just look good. They look balanced to me and the Villa look like they haven't found their feet yet. I'll be interested to see what happens with them. It's a very goalkeeper heavy show today, but I'd be interested to see how Martinez settles back in big character obviously won the World Cup been voted the best goalkeeper in the world and all that kind of stuff wanted to go Man United didn't make any secret of that didn't get the move is it unrealistic to think that he's going to settle back into that squad without any problems I think at that age you don't sort of you get a bit more you get a bit more rope I think when you're at that age and you've obviously done all that in your career you sort of feel like you can you are a master of your own destiny he's out there fucking trophies he's out there fucking trophies How many trophies have you fucked?

34:34I've never seen. You have. Sitting behind you, Pete. Yeah. Do you regret it, Marcus? No. No. Good on you. Double down, mate. Double down. Yeah. I think this is one of the most fascinating games of the weekend. I'm sad it's on the three o 'clock on a Saturday, to be honest. Because there's no physical way I'll ever be able to watch it.

34:50Luke Moore: There's no physical way I'll ever be able to watch it. You could go to the game. I could do, couldn't I? You could play Paddle. You can listen to it on the radio. Maybe I will. You know, you can put it on Teletext. Right. Now, let's go to West London. Chelsea travel to Brentford at 8pm on Saturday. Will you be able to watch that one? Yeah, will do, yeah. That's a nice Saturday treat, isn't it? The difference is I simply don't want to. Right. I'm at the aforementioned Alpaca Festival that my neighbour put on. Oh, on Saturday night? Yeah. Grillfest. Grillfields. Yeah, I've got a little grillfields going on this weekend.

35:25So you're going to an Alpaca Festival Saturday night? I'm going to an Alpaca-based festival. I have been tasked with setting up the PA for several bands who will be very upset with my professionalism. But it's going to be better. Who's playing? Some very, very localized concerns. That's it. Hardfire, Leon? Pete, you could probably play a bit of guitar for him, couldn't you? I tested out the PA yesterday. How was it? Through a very small Kirkhamer practice amp. Nice.

35:50Luke Moore: With Pete, it would be noughties indie bands like Hardfire, The Enemy, and those kind of things. He also likes the old ska punk stuff, doesn't he, Pete? Yeah, exactly. Are you into that? He likes your sponge. would play. Marcus, can I also say that we should both agree that Pete being put in charge for a PA system on a Saturday night, testing it on a Thursday, remarkable growth from the lad. That is a last minute Larry. If anyone's electrocuted, if anyone from Absolute Radio is listening, they'll be thinking to themselves, where was this? Where was this? Turn up for sure 10 minutes in, prep and plan.

36:24Where was this when your very last thing you did for us was burping down the mic and swearing? Is it swearing? you didn't swear no I didn't swear final question from me it's a burning question that all our listeners want to know the answer to I make no apologies for asking it Peter how many alpacas do you need for it to be counted as a festival of alpacas to me it feels like it should be quite a lot I think it's about there's about seven next to a across what kind of area it's a pretty large pile I would say can we get tickets for it no it's all sold out

36:53Luke Moore: oh that's a shame well there's always next year everybody exactly I'd imagine Brentford Chelsea probably sold out as well but I don't know that Now of course we have that West London derby going on but it was announced yesterday that Chelsea had been charged by the FA with 74 alleged rule breaches related to payments to agents between 2009 and 2022. Yes, the alleged rule breaches concern agents, intermediaries and third party investments in players. George breaches. She hasn't done anything wrong. That we know of. that we know of and at the time of recording. She wouldn't admit it like Chelsea.

37:32She has done quite a lot wrong. We were talking about swearing. Not relevant to this. Yeah, right.

37:37Luke Moore: Chelsea themselves reported this to the FA. So, when we say they're alleged, I mean, they have, you know, said that this has happened. So this is the big difference between them and the Man City thing, isn't it? Yes. If Mandelson had done the same, he would still be in a job. I often get you and him mixed up. Good Hartlepool men. Yeah. Both called Peter. Yeah, indeed. Good Hartlepool Peters. Well, anyway. might I go back to the detail of this the charges are primarily focused on transfers between 2010-11 and the 2015-16 seasons, the deals to sign Eden Hazard similar to and William apart the investigation however there's no suggestion that the players have done anything wrong I like that they add that in there it's responsible reporting I think I think because they've announced that they've reported themselves and they're going to comply properly with the investigation, they're expecting a fine What they should expect is, of course, absolutely no end to the case whatsoever.

38:30No punishment over the horizon at all. Because that seems to be the precedent that's been set. I'm surprised that Chelsea have been frightened into reporting it themselves, given that Man City have had absolutely nothing leveled at them. Who are they going to level a fine or anything at? A sanctioned Abramovich? What are you going to do?

38:44Luke Moore: Well, they've still got his money. Was it 2.5 million? Apparently that's still frozen, although technically it belongs to him. So can the Premier League take that? Well, they basically need to ask for his pin and say, right, you've been fired. you've been fine I don't know say 200 grand or whatever it's going to be someone's got to go back every day and take their maximum out of the cash point every day so I've got the pin number 500 quid yeah I'd like a train spot in two little tip go out one minute before midnight you'll get two lots there we go nice like it but yeah so I think somebody needs to say alright Roman I know you can't touch that money but it does need to come out of there but it's not no it's surely it'll be leveled at Chelsea as a club yeah yeah but surely you inherit the crimes I mean the interest alone Luke you can't blame the sum for the sins of the sugar daddy that would be what I'd say will we wait for the investigation to finish in between the Spurs I should have done it myself now before we go for a break how about this Josh King's disallowed goal for Fulham against Chelsea of course was a very controversial moment in the last round of Premier League fixtures well the defiant people of Fulham have voted it Fulham's goal of the month nice the goal received 83 % of the votes come on Fulham's goal of the month that is the kind of standing up for what you believe in against the dark forces that our VAR that we need to see.

40:00It's the petty Brits.

40:02Luke Moore: It's very much so. It's glorious. It's very full of mission. I love the fact that they think the best course of action here is to rig some kind of online vote. We'll play by the rules, but we're just going to cast our votes. People will understand how we feel. Yeah, I like it. Didn't vote myself. Didn't need to. Knew we'd get over the line. Yeah, to the landslide. Don't bother coming out and vote. I think Josh King will be very emboldened by that one. He'll be good for his confidence. The fans are with me. Maybe he'll set that confidence into the game against Leeds. He'll score more, disallowed goals.

40:34You'll be at Craven Cottage as we can, will you, Marcus?

40:36Luke Moore: See if you can spot me. I'll try. I'll try my best. Coming up after this, how did this get in the running order? Portsmouth face Southampton in the South Coast derby. Massive game.

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42:43Luke Moore: Right, everybody, let's continue talking about the Premier League. Arsenal versus Nottingham Forest. Saturday at 12.30, just tomorrow, it's happening. Former Spurs manager Ange Postacoglu will be in the dugout for his first game for Forest and of course, it's away at Arsenal. It's great to see him back, wasn't it? It's great to see him back. It just was. My feelings towards Ange were like, I loved him at the start of his Spurs tenure. I thought he was a real breath of fresh air. I loved how frank he was. Then I kind of got a bit confused by how... Chippy. Yeah. upset he was about everything. But the chipping just came a bit later.

43:17I kind of got a bit confused about how a man who seemed to be quite straight-talking and quite rational would field quite irrational teams. Quite irrational setups on the pitch. That Chelsea game where they're just all defending across the halfway line. I love that. And then I got kind of a little bit fed up of his bullshit and his kind of really, really chippy demeanor, as you said. But then we had a little break, didn't we? Yeah. And then he's come back again. And now I really like him again.

43:42Luke Moore: I mean, yeah, towards the end of his time, he had the kind of demeanour of an Australian fast bowler. Yeah. You know, and the... After a few beers. Yeah. And the journalists, he was looking at them, imagining them to be England batsmen. Yeah. And I have nothing but content for most of those journalists myself, so I quite like the fact that he was going to bat with them. Yeah. To mix them out. If journalists are turning up with poems and cakes and stuff, I think they can take a few hits, can't they? Yeah. I don't think that Gary Cottrell disgraced himself in this press conference that we've seen, that I've seen so far, which is surprising.

44:13Luke Moore: Yes. Had he done that, I think Ange's got his feet under the table now at the Premier League so much he probably could have just had a swing for him. I mean, Maranakis would probably... Yeah, Maranakis comes in with the big splash peak off the top turnbuckle. Heavy boots, the big boots. They very much did, there was a photo of them. I can't remember what it was for, but there was a photo of them quite recently. Earthquake and typhoon. Yeah, very much the natural disasters of the Premier League now. It's very pleasing. Such a lovely old reference there. Have you seen Gary Cottrell's output on Twitter recently?

44:43His last post is just all Jose Mourinho stuff. It's just all Jose Mourinho hugging him. It's just bizarre. Maybe he knows something.

44:52Luke Moore: Maybe he knows something. Maybe he's on the way. Maybe Jose's on his way back. He's tracking a flight as we speak. Yeah, exactly. Well, let's leave Jose for another week. Callum Arzaldoy already said that training session was mad. But that's the thing, though. going from Nuno to Ange is quite the gear change. Callum Hudson-Odoi is now Callum Hudson-Odoi-Di because he's been stretched on Ange's wrath. Is that right? All of his limbs are longer. Callum Hudson-Odoi. Well, Ange was asked in the press conference about the fact he always wins a trophy in his second season, which was an inevitable question he was going to be asked, of course.

45:26Luke Moore: He replied by saying, I have won a couple in my first as well. He then was asked if he can win one with Forrest this season and he replied, of course I can. I may have to win one to get a second year here, mate. Which is quite amusing. Well, the double with Celtic in his first year, I think. So yeah, he's fair enough saying that. Yeah, not of course. For Mario Nacos, it's kind of like a twist or bust kind of season, really, because obviously they got to a certain level with the manager previous to Nuno, and then this one, they just had a bit of a falling out. Nuno's got this reputation of being quite a...

45:58These performances are on a bedrock of quite good defensive performances, but they've let in quite a few goals this season. They've let in more than they've scored.

46:04Luke Moore: I mean, losing at home to West Ham 3-0 is absolutely terrible. That was a real kind of last 10 or 15 minute display by West Ham, wasn't it? It just took the game away from Forrest. I think it looks worse on the score than it actually was, but I think the point still stands. I mean, for me, looking at it from the other side, I just feel like the only... This is a kind of nightmarish game for Arsenal with the circumstances we've just talked about. The only saving grace for them is the Emirates. Yes. I think this is absolutely kind of set up for Elliot Anderson just run the show against a midfield that costs loads more money than him he's having a bit but is Ange back in the Premier League that's what I'm saying yeah but so when you're saying like running the show and so on but this could massively feed into Arsenal's capabilities but it depends yeah but it depends on what postocoglu you think it's going to be well going on what Callum Hudson adored it seems like he's picking up where he left off training hard is different to tactically on the field.

47:04Well, okay. They didn't sit up against free kicks very well last season, did they, Spurs? So, Arsenal, that's kind of... Arsenal's thing. No, Arsenal's thing at the moment. But my angle would just be that if Poster Coglu, at the age of 60, is still able to learn and be flexible like he was, as you guys mentioned, on Wednesday in the Europa League, if we get that version of it, it might be really interesting. If he just plays this kamikaze stuff... it'll be good for the Ramble. It will be great for the Ramble, whatever happens, I think. I just feel like, look, possibly I'm going to be embarrassed when I come back in next week and we talk about this game.

47:39Let's hope so. Yeah, well, again, good for the Ramble. But to me, it just feels, I think Arsenal have been overrated a bit by a lot of pundits. I think people have looked at them and gone, they've been second for however many seasons. They've strengthened in this area and this area. I haven't been that impressed with Zubimendi so far. I haven't been that impressed with Gokker so far. Eze's in line to start, possibly for the first time for Arsenal.

48:00Luke Moore: Yeah, I mean, he came on against Liverpool. Yeah, so that's interesting. And they've clearly strengthened in the areas they feel they need to be strengthened in. But they've also got Saliba missing, which is a big deal. And I just think it's an element of unknown about Forrest under Ange Postocoglu. It could go one way or the other. They could get whooped about 4-0, but they could get a result. It's early days, and it's even earlier days for Forrest now. Let me put it this way for you. Would you like to be, your capacity as a Fulham fan, would you like to be playing the first game of Ange's Forrest in the Premier League?

48:28You wouldn't want that.

48:29Luke Moore: I don't know I think because I think there's a chance that Ange could you know I'm going on the first season at Spurs I think that he started brilliantly at Spurs yeah I know which is why you'd want to play them earlier on rather than when they really get going so I actually you know we'll see obviously it's hard to say our new manager I would say I think because of the likely sort of juxtaposition of what we'll see tactically I don't think Ange Postergogli is not stupid he knows football better than I do so he's not going to go in there and go right tear that up and let's gung-ho and let's carry on you know 22 league defeats last season well let's see how many we can rack up this season I don't think he's going to be like that it would be mental wouldn't it it would be great for us but I think Baranakis outside with a colour cup at the door what's he doing so I think yeah I but I think I think to catch him cold would be is what Arteta and Arsenal fans will be hoping to do of course I like that they've had to sign a goalkeeping coach because obviously Nuno was a goalkeeper.

49:31Yeah, nice. So it's just nice that they've had to hire on you. Left the gap.

49:35Luke Moore: Right then. Heating in. Yeah, go on then, Luke. I don't know how this has made it in. Southampton are hosting Portsmouth on Sunday at midday. Well, the way it's made it in is it's the second biggest game in England. Second biggest game in England. I'll give you the Manchester derby. Right. That's bigger. Thanks. But Southampton-Portsmouth is the biggest game other than that in the country today this weekend. Is it the closest to the sea derby? Must be. Must be. It absolutely must be. You're not looking forward to this? You're not going to watch this on Sunday? Just frantically looking at fixtures and just notice that West Ham are playing Spurs, that's all.

50:10Luke Moore: But yeah, apparently the South Coast derby is bigger than that Premier League game. Depends on your viewpoint. Yeah, clearly. Will you both be watching on Sunday? No, I'll probably be well. Have you ever taken out of PA in the middle of a field? I'll be here at 12 o 'clock, so maybe I'll stick it on the big telly. Nice. All right, I'll probably still be socialising after church. Fair enough. Why not combine the two? Well, I don't want to ruin the vibe. It's the first time Portsmouth and Sarampton have played in a league game, I think, for a long old time. I mean, it must be since 2000. First time I've played since 2019.

50:45Yeah, which then I won 4-0. That was in the cup. Yeah, 4-0. Since then, it's probably 2012, I think.

50:51Luke Moore: Yeah, it was. Yeah, the previous one was 2012. That was the last time they played in the league game. That was when Sir Ampton scored in the last minute and then David Norris equalised for Portsmouth in injury time. It was an amazing end to the game. Good old Norrie. Well, the big news in the lead up to this game is that iconic Portsmouth fan and friend of Luke Moore, John Westwood, had his... Father of Luke Moore, John Westwood. Come on.

51:15Luke Moore: You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends. So that's why we go with friend. Yeah, John Westwood is wig stolen by a rival fan. That sort of dreadlocky looking... It's like a horrible Pirates, privateers kind of wig, isn't it? Yeah, kind of. You've got obviously the blue and white. The photo of it is one of the most depressing photos I've ever seen. It looks like it's got weevils in it. It should only be approached with a hazmat suit. For sure. They got stolen and put up on Facebook Marketplace. Yeah, well, the incident... I've got a dancer who should have bought it. You missed a trick there.

51:44Well, the incident happened

51:45Luke Moore: while he was watching Portsmouth's Academy play in the Hampshire Senior Cup against Romsey Town. And a number of Southampton fans were supposedly present at the game. His wig was nicked. and then listed on Facebook marketplace for a pound. A pound. Because he obviously has had many, many stadium bans. I like that now he's allowed back in to Fronten Park that he's sort of also doing all of the other matches. I don't remember why he was given stadium bans. He went to the Women's Tilot. Yeah, and then a lot of... There's a few other ones. During one of the Premier League seasons, he was essentially banned from quite a lot of away stadiums from being just drunk and disorderly and stuff like that and cause him problems.

52:24I mean, joking aside, he's not a very nice bloke.

52:28Luke Moore: Well, something nice happened to him because the wig was eventually posted back to him. Posted back to Westwood's bookshop, which is where he applies his thread. In Petersfield, I think it is. A pretty good looking bookshop, but then you look at the back room of the bookshop and it's a bit of me in there, if you're honest and honest. A lot of wires, a lot of batteries, a lot of odds and sods around. Brick-up-rack. Yeah. It doesn't look like the back of a library or a bookshop. It looks like my dad's shed. Yeah, well, Westwood said that when he saw it on Facebook Marketplace, he rang the person up and left a really nice message asking for its return.

53:03Luke Moore: I bet he did. A really nice message from John Westwood. He then said, he texted me back saying it wasn't him and he needed to talk to someone about it. Oh, yeah. But the next hour, I received a special delivery. It's the same state it was in, still dirty and smelly, which reminds me, I must wash it. Yeah. And presumably himself. Push yourself while you're there, John. Anyway, great preview of the game. I really enjoyed it. That's what you're getting. So go on then, how are Portsmouth and Salah? How are Salaham to getting on back in the championship? They're the team that we're really focused on.

53:31Worse than Portsmouth. Currently below them in the table. Portsmouth started quite well. I was at the game against Preston at home a week or two ago. Portsmouth looked pretty good. They've since signed Connor Chaplin, which is a massive sign-in. A really surprising signing as well. So that will be a factor, I think. and I think Portsmouth front four particularly now looks decent and I would have feared going into this game more than any other game because away from home of course and my general kind of default position when it comes to being a Portsmouth fan is just if we're at home against anyone in the league I'm disappointed we don't win and then when we're away it feels like any points are bonus but this is how football gets you though isn't it because I've now got quite a lot of hope because Portsmouth started the season quite a bit better than I thought they would if you bear in mind that last season the championship didn't win a game until October they've already picked up

54:21Luke Moore: seven points yeah seven points from what four games they only lost one game I think so I think they've got a chance here and I'd also like to see what colour pants Samson have got you get in there early get on the front foot get on early in the front foot see if they can stand up to it because they've they've found the transition back to the championship quite hard so if Pompey can go in there get on the front foot with a bit of confidence and realise there's nothing to be scared of I think they can win the game. Tell you what, the team to beat though in the championship so far, Middlesbrough, four wins from four.

54:49Luke Moore: They've been very good. How about that? They have been very good. No doubt about that. Left back. Yes. Now, of course, it's Friday and it's a huge day for myself. For the Luke Nation. And the Luke Nation as well. Luke is back to take on me in your first game of the season, in my biddy aunt. Of course, that's going to be out later. Pete will be reffing, of course. So to get today's episode of my biddy aunt, it will be later this afternoon, as I said. Make sure you subscribe to the Football Ramble in your podcast app so you do not miss it. And thank you, everybody, for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the ACAR's Creator Network.

55:22Luke Moore: I've got great news, though. The keys are in the lock. The gate to the weekend is officially open. Get out there, listen to all the good music, eat all the good food, and if there is still a little bit of life in Greelfields left, then get yourselves down there. Yeah, look over the bones of that. Thank you very much, Luke Ball. Thank you very much. Thank you, Pete Donaldson. And thank you, Jack Greenleaf.

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