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3:42Pete Donaldson: I've come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and I'm all out of bubblegum, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble. Let's hear out. Auckland City got a point and Liam DeLapp got a goal. It's Wednesday, 25th of June. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Jim Campbell. And I'm Pete Donaldson.

4:06Pete Donaldson: Hello, everybody. It's a wonderful Wednesday at the Football Ramble, and you're here and we're here. What else could we want, Peter? No chewing in the studio, please. Yes. No chewing bubblegum. Thanks to Friend of the Ramble, Chris, for giving me that very wordy intro line. You can submit the intro line for next Wednesday's show by signing up to the Football Ramble Patreon, just five bucks a month. By becoming a member, you'll also get an extended edition of every Wednesday Ramble. Just head to patreon.com forward slash football ramble to get involved. It's a brilliant chance to stitch us up, isn't it?

4:34It is. It is, yes. put things in our mouth, bubblegum or otherwise.

4:39Pete Donaldson: Now, boys, Auckland City, those embarrassing little slugs from New Zealand, got a point! I can't believe it. How about that? Against Boca Juniors. Boca Juniors, who needed to smash them. I mean, it's not as if it was like a Mino. Yes. You know, it was like a Rara Reds or something. Do you know what I mean? It was fucking Boca Juniors. Who needed a result. Well, we've already been absolutely smashed twice, so now we've got to play these Argentinian psychopaths. Oh, this might be quite hard, actually. But no. How many are they going to score? Eight, nine, or ten? Sorry, everybody. Yeah, you better be.

5:16I mean... Jim started it. I mean, good God. That goal could be worth$1 million this year. He should get it. And he should keep it, yeah.

5:24Pete Donaldson: He's a trainee teacher. He can suck that off. Well, for a bit. How much does a million quid go in New Zealand? Well, it's long enough to find... It buys you time to do something different. It depends if it's Australian dollars. I believe they call them dollary-do's. Dollary-do's, sorry. Dollary-no's, yeah. And New Zealand's not a part of Australia. No. Anymore. True. It never was! Yeah. Do you not think that... Sorry, everyone. Being called Christian Grey, the teacher, he'll only spend it on whips, won't he? Oh, yes! Dirty little blater. Dirty little sod. Dirty little blater. My goodness. Christian Grey.

5:57Pete Donaldson: Christian Grey. I've not made that connection. Aren't a lot of rich Americans buying the golden visas or whatever in New Zealand? Oh, right, yeah. There's all that sort of thing. And Noel Edmonds is a pub out there, doesn't he? It's increasingly becoming a really weird place. It's not the fault of anyone in New Zealand. Yeah, but I'm just warning Christian Grey, put that money into, you know, stopping these people. Whatever they're up to. They're up to something. Don't spend a million dollars trying to thwart billionaires. You'll get through it in half an hour. That's a knife to a gunfight, Marcus.

6:31Pete Donaldson: It's a knife to a helicopter fight, isn't it? Well, well done Auckland. Yeah, it was brilliant because, you know, Bokka had so many shots in this game. 40. 40 shots. Big VR call as well, handball. Yeah, and they were kind of knocking on the door a lot, but I expected more energy from them, to be honest. And maybe it's just that time of day, the heat, means it's simply impossible to give it that kind of energy that you need. The game was suspended, of course, for a little while, due to a thunderstorm in the area. It was the all England club Wimbledon-esque, Peter. It was. Yeah, I mean, if there's lightning apparently in a 30-mile radius of the stadium, they must pause again for 30 minutes from the last strike that happens in that area.

7:11It's the same for sort of metal walkways, going to flights. I've been delayed a couple of times. Really? I've actually had a flight cancelled and I had to come back the next day. That's frustrating. In Texas because there was a thunderstorm scene 30 minutes away, 30 minutes ago. I mean, it kind of makes sense,

7:26Pete Donaldson: although you would be a bit like, go on I'll make that you would just get me on the planes are insulated just rubber me up rubber me up you probably you often take your rubber suit with you I do yeah just save sex I don't know well it was it was a nice header from Mr. Grey it was who scored the quarter came in he was they were delighted I just shrugged off his marker who as a professional will be gutted yes because that man's a teacher Yeah, three shots they had. He stopped on something that day. They did. But bear in mind, let's just remind ourselves, 10-0 against Bayern, 6-0 against Benfica, where they held out for a bit against Benfica.

8:09Pete Donaldson: And everyone's thinking, hang on, what are you playing at there? And then Boca, as you say, needed a result. But it's a great point. And Boca's goal was a bit naff. Do you know what I mean? The keeper probably could have done a bit better there. It's just kind of like, well, oh, they could have won that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the final whistle went, it cut to the goalkeeper who had his head in his hand. And I thought it was the Boca keeper. but it wasn't. It was the Auckland City go-go. It was just like, I can't believe we've done this. It's brought beautiful stuff. You would think prior to the game after the two results they'd have, they're thinking, oh, it'd just be great to get a goal.

8:37Pete Donaldson: It'd be really great to get a goal. To get a point as well is brilliant. It's lovely. They don't go away empty-handed. And does anybody at the Club World Cup, quite frankly? No, my heart is full. Yeah, it's a really terrible, really good tournament that I hate, that I'm really enjoying. Yeah. I think you've summed it up quite well there. It's confusing. Well, even if Bocca had won, it wouldn't have mattered because Bruno Large's Benfica were giving it large against Bayern and they topped the group by beating them 1-0. Bayern had already qualified so Vincent Kompany made seven changes but it wasn't enough.

9:08Pete Donaldson: He needed to do more changes because they lost 1-0. Is that how it works? The game was played at 36 degrees Celsius and some of Bayern's players who weren't featured just stayed in the changing room during the game. Yeah, imagine like... You must be mad. Imagine like kind of... Just in the shower. You'd imagine a lot of the dugout would be air-conditioned anyway, so I don't know why they would be particularly losing that excuse. It's outside, Peter. I'm not still outside. This is like Silo. Wear a nice big hat. You don't go outside if you don't have to. Wear a big Crocodile Dundee hat with the corks and stuff.

9:39You might obscure the view of someone behind you. That's a good point, actually. That's a good point.

9:42Pete Donaldson: I suppose not with a Crocodile Dundee hat, although why would you need the corks? No. It's just an aesthetic, isn't it? It's just an aesthetic. That's what I mean. But imagine if you're a fringe concern at Bayern Munich or a youth team player and you're coming on to prove yourself to Vossar Company in that heat you're like fuck off give us an easier set of conditions please do you think that was a test where we play in hell I've got to prove is it a test though because the company said you know if you're not involved because some you know maybe it was a fringe parade or two then you can stay inside yeah I've noted this is a Brenda Rogers anything like you're doing inside isn't it I suppose it's a good play actually They could be watching iPad shots of the next performance.

10:28Pete Donaldson: Can we do the research? They come back here, how'd you get on? Exactly, yeah. Did you not even have the Dazon app downloaded, lads? Come on. There's no excuse here. You can sign up for free. We'll be playing Uno. Yeah. Did we win? No, we didn't. Mind you, when we went to Wembley, I remember I tested all of the plug sockets because I wanted to. You say that as if you went around the whole ground. Well, no. Yeah. Now in the changing rooms in the home changing rooms I think we were in doing a show about the FA Cup I think it was FA Cup yeah and some of the plug sockets didn't work because each player gets an individual single plug socket I remember some of them didn't work so maybe there are a situation where they could sort of say well my phone ran out of battery I couldn't watch the match It's good of you to rewire it for free I know yeah it's got involved Yeah exactly that's the way you do it apparently some of the Dortmund players did the same at the weekend as well just stayed inside which yeah maybe can you not find them a little kind of executive box that's sitting rather than the changing room like zip wire down if you brought on yeah I don't know we'll be back next summer for the World Cup everybody and there's nothing that will be any different because the problem is the weather there's literally nothing you can do about that which is getting hotter and more unpredictable and more lightning-y let's say at least the Qataris gave us the false promise of I don't know if it actually came from them about the clouds, the remote control clouds.

11:53Pete Donaldson: Cloud seeding, yeah. The remote control clouds that they would just put them over the stadium. And then they thought, do you know what, it's in the best interest of everybody to move this to December. Yeah. November, December. Which is still difficult. Are you saying we should have another Winter World Cup in the US, Max Coe, and Canada? Doesn't it get to like minus 20 in places in the US? Yeah, Colorado. Those Colorado matches will be fun. Yeah, I think an Autumn World Cup. Oh, an Autumn World Cup in Scandinavia, maybe. Oh. Why Scandinavia? Just because it'll be particularly autumnal. Yeah, but they don't have the facilities or the design.

12:23Pete Donaldson: I don't care about that. Have you got a Starbucks? Get me a Starbucks Lart in. Let's play. Oh, dear. Well, Bayern face Flamingo, who drew 1-1 with LAFC in their final group stage match last night. Benfica will play Group D runners-up Chelsea. They beat Esperance Tunis 3-0. And Liam de Lappe scored his first goal for Chelsea. That's impressive stuff. He's up and running. You've joined a new club. You've scored your first goal before pre-season. Who else can say that? Probably literally no one. A competitive goal before pre-season. Lovely. Is this a major trophy? If Harry Kane wins this with Bayern, has he got two major trophies to his name?

12:59Pete Donaldson: Yeah, surely it has to count as a major trophy. Yeah, I don't... Whatever we think of it. I think it does. It's a full tournament. It has to. Yeah, it must be. Where's it getting placed on the transfer market website where you've got the little logos of the Cops? I still think it would be below the Europa League. Oh, do you think so? Yeah. Do you think so? With all this money sloshing around. This is why they want to do it every two years, isn't it? Because it will make it more prestigious. I think it's the opposite of a World Cup. The more often you do it, the more people will be invested in it.

13:31Pete Donaldson: Let's hope they don't. Well, shall they? What did you think of Chelsea, though, Jim? I said that they needed a reaction. They gave us that reaction. They did. Beat an inferior side 3-0. Yes, they were playing as a France 2-0. Who gave them a helping lack of hands from the goalkeeper, I would say. Goalkeeper was terrible on two of those goals. De Laap's goal it was a nice feat and I thought the finish was very composed and I thought I understand that he was slightly off balance but I mean he he will think to himself he might have done better yeah I might have moved in any sense true enough well they've progressed to the knockouts meaning they've already made 49.5 million dollars from the competition it's a big not too shabby Peter it's not bad for the transfer Kitty is it depending on you know bearing in mind how many kind of movements Chelsea shuffle off and shuffle on during the close season Jadon Sancho back for half a season.

14:18Get Sancho back. But yeah, I mean, it kind of doesn't game the Premier League season, but it does allow Chelsea to sort of stick their heads a little bit higher than a couple of the teams that they're facing off against in the kind of Champions League set, so to speak.

14:35Pete Donaldson: They already have a huge amount of money available to them from having essentially sold themselves to their women's team and some of the other things that they've done. And obviously they make a lot of money in the transfer market as well. But it's on top of that. Well, the money that they've made from this tournament may not be scrutinised in the way that some of the other funds they've raised. I don't know what's scrutinised at all. Selling themselves their own women's team and all that kind of stuff. And it's just fine. Lovely, clean money. The ridiculous thing about it is no one's voting against it because they're like, well, maybe we'll have to do that in the future.

15:08Pete Donaldson: Let them do it. It's very silly. But, you know, they've made 49 and a half million quid from the competition. fair play to them. They could make more Peter should they progress. That's how it works. That's how it works. It just goes up and up and off. Well, it looks like they were, you know, getting bombed out of the competition but they still would have made a hell of a lot of cash anyway. So, yeah. Simple sums that Christian Grey of Auckland City will be teaching his pupils. As I understand it, it's a million dollars a header. Lovely old job. Well, Atletico Madrid won't be making any more money from the Club World Cup despite them beating Botafogo 1-0.

15:40Pete Donaldson: They've crashed out the Club World Cup. They have been to war in the most Atletico Madrid style possible in these three games. That 4-0 defeat at PSG, screwed them. Absolutely screwed them. It did. It really, really did. And it's a funny one because before the tournament, their president, Enrique Cerezo, said, this is the most important tournament we will play in in four years. Well, it's an opportunity for them to get a bit of a financial leg up, isn't it? They'd rather win the Champions League, Jim. Of course they would. But when you're competing with Barcelona and Real Madrid, any kind of advantage you can get over even one of them even when they're skint and keep pulling financial levers and it keeps working is a huge advantage right so I do see what you're saying there well okay I mean yeah it's a generous reading of it it is I mean being able to do basic arithmetic puts you at more of an advantage than Barcelona they just don't seem to understand how subtraction works and yet they're the champions I know and they manage to bring players in well Well, Atletico Madrid have been quite creative in setting up a supporters club in outer space.

16:47Pete Donaldson: The message on social media was quite stunning, this really. Sorry about bombing out the club workup, but look at this. Well, it said that we have supporters all over the world, but not just the world, even further in outer space. And then said the first Spanish man in space is an Atletico Madrid fan. and we value all our fans from Chicago to Tokyo and da-da-da-da-da. And we've set up a supporters club in outer space, and I quote, with headquarters in a real star. So the base is set in a star in the Ursa Major constellation, a.k.a. the Big Dipper, a.k.a. the Plough. And Ursa Major in Latin does mean the greater bear, and of course they have a big old bear licking that thing on their badge.

17:29Pete Donaldson: Suddenly it makes sense. Yeah, so you were about to take the piss out of this, Jim. Are you going to row back before you do that? I'm not. No, because the way they've announced this suggests that there's like a supporter's bar. You can go to it. Flowing around up there. Yeah, you can visit it whenever you want. There's a Spanish astronaut who sort of like usher you in. Like, it's ridiculous. It's just meaningless nonsense. Totally. An AI video. Just good stuff. It's bollocks. It's complete bollocks. With an American voiceover as well for some reason. Yeah. It's international. Yeah. I think that had they've put it on a planet, and it's like a little hut, that any billionaire at Letty fans can go and see it, I think that is a pile of wank, but it's something.

18:13Could they not just land a craft on some planet, probably not as far away as that one, and just have a screen, solar powered or otherwise, that is just constantly broadcasting Atleti TV? I don't know. That would be a touch, wouldn't it? If they'd made it to the knockout, maybe they'd have had the budget maybe they'd have had the budget scale back where would you put the Rambo Supporters Club?

18:35Pete Donaldson: in space yeah like what planet would you choose? Clever yes because then people could access it and people could come yeah I'm sure the zone are on you know you don't have to you're fine you've still got the free logging I would go for the stinkiest planet of all which is the hydrogen sulfide rich rotten egg smelling Uranus How do I know? Because they know that hydrogen sulphide stinks You might smell it Take your helmet off you coward and prove it What? It's delicious I think Venus rains sulphuric acid So maybe that's unwell When you say I think it's like I've done the sums I can't remember whether it was Venus Have you read that or not?

19:21Pete Donaldson: I can't remember which planet it was Right, pass it off as your own I'm not passing it off as my own I'm not claiming to have been travelling around the universe and going oh yeah when I was in Venus it was raining sulphuric acid you did a gap year like you were talking about South America you did a gap year in Venus didn't you did you bettel nut oh dear at least I've got photos yeah you shoot a kalashnikov at a cow that was in Vietnam sorry and it wasn't just one cow but you did have a dog with trousers on and a little phone in his pocket right that is really good good point it's better than any of my photos of Venus back on board There we go.

19:56Pete Donaldson: Right, back into the Club World Cup. PSG, of course, we were in the same group as Atletico Madrid. They beat Seattle Sounders 2-0 to finish top of the group. So they and Botafogo go through. Yes. Yeah, so Pete, you're happy with your new adopted black and white boys going through. And PSG, the underdog, we can all get behind there as well. Now, Luis Enrique criticised the pitches at the Club World Cup saying the ball bounced like a rabbit. But Jude Bellingham has also criticised the pitches saying the ball barely bounces. Which one is it? Does it bounce really high or does it barely bounce at all?

20:29Pete Donaldson: Someone's lying. Yeah. Or maybe it's different state to state. But the pitches are being critical. I'll tell you something. I mean, this is as a much, much younger, well, I wasn't a man, I was a boy during the World Cup in USA 94. I don't remember all this kind of chat. I remember the chat about the temperature, of course. Next year, it's going to be, is it going to be chaos? I don't know what's going to happen. Have you heard Harry Kane talking about it? Yeah. He keeps saying, this is actually really useful for me and all the England boys just because we've got an idea of what it's going to be like next year.

20:58Pete Donaldson: It's like, that is a positive spin that I like. Very positive. But there are other players from other international teams who are also going to know. So again, it's a leveller. But it's going to be mad. And then you've got, what would it be in Mexico City is a little bit of altitude, I think. So you've got, I don't know, it's going to be crazy. It's going to be crazy. But I mean, it sounds very much like, you know, Luis Enrique and also Jude Bellingham would enjoy the Club World Cup on Mercury. because third of the gravity, no atmosphere. The ball's going to absolutely ping about like, oh, Billy.

21:29So get yourself to Mercury, guys.

21:31Pete Donaldson: Like the Jabalani. Yeah, like the Jabalani. And with some Argentinian football fans and Brazilians up there, you could get an atmosphere. Yeah, correct. Now, chaps, I believe you're both dressed in pink. This is a picky tea of a show, isn't it? Isn't it? This is a picky tea. What's for dinner? Everything. Get it in the air fryer. This is Arco Dijon. Now, I believe, gentlemen, you're both wearing pink today to celebrate the fact that Inter Miami have gone through to the knockouts as well. They drew to all with Palmyras, of course. And that was enough for them to make sure they're there. And it was lovely to see Luis Suarez scoring in the 2-2 draw with Palmyras.

22:10Yeah, it was. If the keeper got something on it, and I thought it would have been more impressive if the keeper hadn't got anything on it, but it was a lovely goal. It was a good hit. It was a good hit.

22:18Pete Donaldson: He sort of stumbled, not stumbled, but he got a, there was a few ricochets on his way through. And then it wasn't quite the angle he would have wanted. I think it was like, just get in there. For the Miami opener, there was like a foot race, like you wouldn't believe, up the field. And one of the Panthers defenders just went down in the most, oh, fuck this kind of way. I think like one of his muscles just went in the wrong direction, didn't it? And that looked like an injury. in trying to get back he bowed out of the tournament yeah that was him that was yeah poor bloke proper football match though I enjoyed this immensely now over 60 ,000 people turned out for the game at the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami come on that's what this tournament's about it was rocking the Hard Rock bloody stadium was rocking it was that's what Infantino wanted and that's what that man deserves a big stadium and into Miami going through and he's been vindicated because he basically invited them because of Messi they're there but they're through to the knockouts Jim so people like you have a big old slice of humble pie to gobble down today.

23:18Pete Donaldson: I'll eat any pie. With Mama's cream. Mama's hot pie cream. Have we got a new sponsor that you're introducing? Yeah, Mama's hot pie cream. Okay. Served up by Infantino himself with a big smile on his face. And I show speed. Salt Bae's in the kitchen cooking up some Mama's hot pie cream and I show speed turns up and he throws it in your face and goes, ah! There you are. And then there's a backflip. Well, I guess I still get to have some, don't I? So yeah, I'm in. It's not what you would have envisaged. As you're licking it off your fingers, like, is this mama's hot pie cream? And actually he goes, yes, it is!

23:55Yeah, he got it right!

23:56Pete Donaldson: Then he does a backflip. And then we're all better for it. While Lionel Messi will face his former club PSG in the next round. Not just Messi, with the kind of reunion going on as well, because obviously Luis Enrique managed him, Suarez, Busquets and Jordi Alba at Barcelona. So that's a little bit of narrative. David Beckham as well. David Beckham as well. He's been involved with both clubs. Yeah. But Messi, how about this? Messi's never failed to reach the knockout stage of any tournament he's played in for club and country. 33 tournaments. That is quite something. And I understand he's played the vast majority of his career at Barcelona.

24:31Pete Donaldson: And Argentina. And Argentina. This was the test. This was. And he's done it. This is a sternest test. He's done it again. It's been a while since we've had a new Messi stat. And this is what it's taken. let's be honest they didn't even qualify not through any route that makes any sense that's right that's right elsewhere in the group Paul also played a very entertaining 4-4 with Al-Akhali but that meant both teams were eliminated from the tournament so another European giant has gone Pete Donaldson goodbye it's quite an interesting little snapshot this isn't it because some of these games where you're not quite sure what the level is from one country to another have thrown up these really, really interesting ones.

25:14Pete Donaldson: An Egyptian team and a Portuguese team playing out of 4-0. It's very hard to predict that that was going to even be a possibility. Yeah, and as well for fans in this country or this time zone, if you're going to stay up to watch some of these games, you want eight goals. Yeah, absolutely. You think, okay, that's fair. Or whatever time. It's been worth it. It's been entertaining games, gentlemen. Everyone just calm down. As the tournament's underway and stuff, seeing some of the entrants like LAFC and Salzburg as well in some ways, it does seem really odd on the ground, doesn't it? I wonder if they'll address that before the next one.

25:57Pete Donaldson: Barcelona, you've not qualified. You fucking have. We want you in. The qualification process will be very interesting next time around, especially if it's 48 teams. it will just be, yeah, we'll have them, we'll have them. Who fancies a pair there? Yeah, baller league, get in there. All that, all that. All right, coming up after this, John Textor sells up at Crystal Palace and Alejandro Garnaccio's been a naughty boy.

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29:37Hutchinson, his first touch isn't great, but he's still going. And it is another penalty for Sligo Rovers. He did catch him, I think, Declan. And an opportunity for Sligo Rovers. But challenge happened outside the shagging box. Excuse my French.

29:49Pete Donaldson: Welcome back to the football level, everybody. Shagging every morning on the Ramble. Yes. Recently, it seems. Are you ready to talk about Manchester United? I am, yes. Yes, Manchester United. Infantino will find a way to get them at the next Club World Cup, won't they? Definitely. It's like, what, two 15th place finishes back-to-back in the Premier League and no European football this season. How have they qualified for the Club World Cup? Maybe that's what they'll do. Infantino will be like, for the next qualification process, will tell you how it works when the season is finished. Just chuck whoever they want in there.

30:23Pete Donaldson: That's right, yeah. Well, Jim, enough of that Club World Cup bollocks. I want to talk about who may and may not be playing for Manchester United next season. Alejandro Garnaccio. Is he going to be there? Doesn't look like it. No, he seems to be angling for a move. He posted a picture, I'm sure a lot of you saw this the other day, of himself on Instagram wearing a Marcus Rashford Aston Villa shirt. I mean, it's like, there's angling for a move. It's a antagonistic little song. But it's sort of like poisoning your own well, isn't it? Yes. Because you need a move. And what does that signal to the teams that are interested in you?

30:56Pete Donaldson: What does that show about the type of character you're going to be in the dressing room when the chips are down? That you love your colleagues very much and will support them in whatever they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Even, you know, he'll be coming back. He's only on loan to Villa. He's still a Man United player. That's why we can never forget him. The annoying thing is, like, he won't have gone into Sports Direct himself to do that. Nope. And so one of his assistants would have done that. And they've absolutely done themselves over there because if he gets a move, that assistant will have to move to wherever he goes.

31:24Pete Donaldson: Was it his brother who's his agent? I'm sure he doesn't go to Sports Direct for... Oh, no, no, no. I'm sure he's got an underling, a minion, if you will. But I mean, I'd be through in that heat as well. His sweaty old wicking the Aston Villa shirt. Yeah, but I would assume that, Peter, that he's got somebody to do it for him. And yet, when we see some of the stuff he puts out on social media, I'm thinking there's not much wisdom going into his brain. People will do anything for him, but they won't make him question why he's asking them to do it. Yeah. I mean, look, I understand it's a difficult situation that he may not want to...

31:56Pete Donaldson: Clearly, he doesn't want to be there. It's like he's trying to drive his own price down. Yeah. Well, maybe that's... He doesn't give it down, does he? No, he doesn't give it down. Obviously, he doesn't. Yeah. I mean, Rashford replied to the post by saying, my brother. So, I honestly... Why don't all of these sort of bombed out players has just become a little five-a-side team. Yeah. Take on the best five-a-siders in the world. I've no doubt they would. Well, United are still holding out for a£60 million fee for Garnaccio. There's no... I think there'll be a lot more suitors than you think of Garnaccio.

32:29Pete Donaldson: Well, his wages are a fair bit lower than, say, Rashford and Sancho, for example. But there's no reason why a 20-year-old Garnaccio should have been leading the line and all of that being on his shoulders. I've said it before on the show, there's no reason why he should have been in charge of that Manchester United football. He didn't play that much, though. I think that's what's rubbed him up the wrong way, though. I think that, yes... A lot of weight on a young man's shoulders. There was. And I think, yeah, Ten Hag put more faith in him than, say, Amorim did at times. And there was that time when he scored and he didn't celebrate because he felt like he'd got a bit of stick from the fans and stuff.

33:02Pete Donaldson: Which, again, for a young man, that must be tough to take. Something that we'll never understand, of course. Amorim, though, has come in, and I think the way Amorim plays, I'm not sure that would suit Garnaccio, and clearly doesn't fancy him that much. I mean, in the Europa League final, you know, McCoyst was doing his head in on commentary saying just get him on at half time. You know, it was too little, too late ultimately. He's a player with a bit of quality. I think we can all see that. He's only 20. Yes, exactly. That's really, it's easy to forget how young that is because of how early we see some players break through now, but he's got a huge talent.

33:36Pete Donaldson: There's a lot of players in that Man United squad where you think what has happened to them? They come in with a big reputation and suddenly they look like they're just bereft of confidence and ideas and nothing seems to come off all work. Garnaccio is one of the few where that's not the case. So I think someone's going to get a really, really good player there. Yeah. And it'd be interesting to see if he stays in the Premier League because you feel like he could come back to haunt them. Yeah, I hate... As you said, Jim, I could see him at Atletico. Oh, absolutely. Perfect fit. I mean, he should have gone to Napoli, shouldn't he?

34:05Pete Donaldson: Should have gone to Napoli in January. Yeah. It would have been perfect. He'll get loaned out and he won't be allowed to play against Manchester United. speaking of loans apparently Barcelona according to the Times are reportedly interested on taking Marcus Rashford on loan even if they sign Nico Williams isn't it apparently oh goodness knows Jim yeah it's always they put out the feelers and so on but that's what you know put out the levers yes exactly is that a step too far because he'll find someone who'll pay a percentage of his wages Barcelona will presumably be in the same boat as every other team who wants to they'll probably be like 25 % of his wages yeah So, I mean, that's more of a story than him being loaned out to Brentford or something.

34:45So I don't think Man United politically would go for that.

34:48Pete Donaldson: But, well, as I said on the previous pod, it would be like a game of poker. Who's going to wait? A Manchester United going to wait for the window to close and then go, oh, crap, nobody bought him. And we've got a player here now who is on record as saying he's done at Manchester United. The manager doesn't want him here. And he's just picking up an enormous amount of wages. This is no good for anybody. whereas you take the deal where it is say a 25 % or 50 % whatever it is a percentage and you think it's hardly ideal but we are saving ourselves you know 100 grand or 150 grand a week or something like that which with Sir Jim Ratcliffe you know that is like Christmas time isn't it but Man United are should be a bigger concern than you know lording out players because he'll get that money somewhere else and someone will come in for him but I don't think if he has a good season wherever he goes that's what I'm saying but Villery showed something I think that with Rashford, I think that is this question of the wages?

35:42Pete Donaldson: I mean, Jadon Sancho, that's a question there. But then there's reports that Jose Mourinho wants him to come to Feno Bacchae. Now that, to me, would be, you know, there's a suitor there who probably could pay wages or a certain fair whack of them as well. And there's still a pull of Mourinho, I would have thought, with some players. And it is, you know, it's not the best league in Europe, but it's a proper league. It's not like going to Saudi, for example. so I wonder if that's something but do check out the mailbag that we did yesterday because we spoke quite a bit about Sancho and Rashford on there Manchester United have improved a bid to sign Brian and Bumo they've gone up to sort of 60 million it was 45 million plus add-ons up to 10 million so they've gone that little bit further I thought it already happened well I think this is the trouble with transfers isn't it you know it's reported and it's going to happen and so on and so forth because Vish said he was incredibly excited about Brian and Buma going.

36:38Pete Donaldson: That was about two weeks ago, wasn't it? Yeah, exactly, Jim, yeah. I think these things take ages to get ready, don't they? And it's when you see a transfer rumour that involves a club other than your own, this is a perfect example. You think, bloody hell, they've got that done quickly. And then it just rumbles on for weeks and weeks and weeks because they take ages. Completely, yeah. I mean, in Buma, as we've mentioned before, that would be a fabulous sign-in for Manchester United. It really would. Like, that would... Really would. With Kunyun and Buma in there... Two of the best players in the Premier League last season.

37:03Pete Donaldson: You know, if that doesn't work, then you truly have to think you're cursed. Like you're actually cursed if that doesn't work. Yeah, totally, yeah. And I think it would work in the system. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let's see if I get him though because old Thomas the Frank engine at Spurs might fancy a bit of that. He might do. Let's be honest, he really would fancy a bit of that. So we shall see. But do you go to the side who are in the Champions League or do you go to the side who may well find a way to get into the Club World Cup soon enough? I don't know. Now, let's move on to John Texter.

37:38Pete Donaldson: Apparently, he's sold his shares in Crystal Palace. New York Jets owner Woody Johnson has signed a legally binding contract, we are led to believe, to buy John Texter's 43 % stake in Crystal Palace. The deal is reportedly worth£190 million. That values the club as a whole at approximately£442 million. It's uncertain whether Texter's sale will boost Palace's hopes of playing in the Europa League next season. I would imagine it would, surely. That was the sticking point, right? That was the whole problem. Indeed, but maybe there's deadlines and so on and blah, blah, blah. Just to give you a little bit of background, though, Crystal Palace fans on who Woody Johnson is.

38:13Pete Donaldson: Between 2017 and 2021, he was the US ambassador to the UK, appointed by Donald Trump. Yeah. So one in, one out. Is it definitely that Woody Johnson? Because Woody Johnson sounds like the name, sort of name you might make up if you're doing like a prank call. Are we sure it's not John Texter again? Doing a Chelsea. Hey, Woody Johnson here. Selling his shares to himself. He's a fascinating creature, is this fella. Woody Johnson? Yes, Woody Johnson, not John Texter. Well, he is. He's also fascinating. But obviously, Woody Johnson owns the NFL team, the New York Jets. Now, he didn't sign an NFL player because his teenage sons said that his Madden rating wasn't high enough.

38:59And the Jets are apparently a load of toilet. and this isn't great for the club.

39:04Pete Donaldson: Yeah, I was about to say, Crystal Palace, careful. Yeah, see, this is it because this sale has been enforced and has happened very, very quickly. You do worry that he's not necessarily going to be a great fit. I mean, presumably they would have done as much due diligence as possible. You'd think, Jim. In a week. Steve Parrish seems pretty on it with that sort of stuff. You'd think. Hopefully, hopefully this will be okay. Okay. Well, I... That one pans out. See how Jim's hop. Yeah, what about this then, Jim? So John Texter, of course, owns seven-time French champions Lyon, which caused the conflict with Palace.

39:42Pete Donaldson: Well, Lyon have been officially relegated to Leicester. John, you're so bad at this. They were told earlier this year that if their financial situation didn't improve, they would be relegated. So they stood their ground. and their ground has been taken to Ligue 2. It's mad that Lyon have been relegated for that. They're a huge club. They're the best club in France easily for a period. And pre-PSG, they were a sort of fixture of the Champions League knockout stages and so many great players came through there. Do you remember they were an absolute nightmare to deal with famously when clubs tried to sign players from them and they were really admirable in that sense.

40:24Pete Donaldson: and it's for I suppose people of our of our age they were this this fixture a kind of really interesting club that everybody kind of liked and it's such a shame that they've because of this kind of mismanagement that they're now being relegated it is the mismanagement it's not as if you know like we see Spurs and Manchester United people might say they're mismanaged it's not in the same stratosphere as this more of a footballing story for those two isn't it yeah so they've been poor on the pitchers as well If it was a case that Lyon had just had a nightmare, they've been bad, they've just been a bit crap, and over the years they've drifted and down they go, that can happen.

41:02Pete Donaldson: When you say, but 15 years ago they won the league, well, a lot can happen in 15 years in football or whatever. This is not that. We always say it, don't we? But it's becoming a little bit more common. They finish sixth. Yes, sixth in Lyon. And down they go. And they're bringing themselves down to Andy Carr's level, you would suggest. Well, yeah. So maybe he'll be appearing there. I think he's done, isn't he? I think didn't he finish that is he done is he actually retired yeah we had a message but with yeah but I mean that's I mean that's another story for French football with Bordeaux going all the way down you know crazy I know Leon it's just it's just one relegation but still club that so I can't it's crazy absolutely crazy oh dear right let's move on something closer to home Cardiff City you've seen that Gareth Bale said he's interested in being a part of a bid to buy Cardiff City yes please I think Cardiff City fans can understandably be excited about this because Vincent Tan is still their owner.

41:58Pete Donaldson: Yeah, it's easy to forget that if you don't think about Cardiff City that often, isn't it? Because obviously you think of Tan changing the colour of the kit and then changing it back and just being a slightly kind of ridiculous figure. But he's been really absent, just has been quite combative and takes criticism really badly, even when it's fair, and has turned on the fans in that regard as well. he's been a disaster for them it's been a bit of a shit show I mean they were relegated obviously this season and the fans have been protesting against him they were protesting against his ownership of the club before the South Wales derby this year and I think that the thought of having you know a player like Bale who need I say more who's a part of it and of course he'd be sort of the celebrity face of it you would think and do these things always work out blah blah blah but we want to give it a go because Tan has just been so shit.

42:52I think Vincent Tan could probably hide an entire golf club set in his trousers.

42:56Pete Donaldson: Yes. Because they're very tall. And of course, if Gareth Bale did turn the Cardiff City's pitch into a golf course, then I think they'd be right to want Tan back. It's right to complain. I don't think that's going to happen. No. I think a lot needs to happen for that to happen. I don't think any of it will happen. And I would like to see Bale and this consortium or this group try and wrestle the club away from Tan. Although it was rejected. I'd like to see that. Literally, yeah. One might suggest... Stripped to the waist, although Tan's trousers, he wouldn't be to the waist. It's a less romantic story because football's quite a nice place to put your money these days and it's kind of opportunistic.

43:37They've just gone down. I don't know. It doesn't always work out that well, this sort of thing. Well, yeah.

43:44Pete Donaldson: Now, one man's dirty little businessman. One man's Wrexham and another man's Leon, as they say. Both in their second tiers, of course, respectively. All right, coming up after this, controversy in the Veterans Bundesliga and the best game that you might ever see in the under 19 euros.

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46:03Pete Donaldson: Now, gentlemen, it's transfer season. How about this? Galatasaray are reportedly keen on signing Aaron Ramsdale. Yes. That's lovely. It is. There appear to be three options, which is Galatasaray, seems weird. Leeds, good fit. West Ham, chaos. Go to Galatasaray. Oh, come on. Yeah, apparently Ramsdale, he's got a£20 million relegation release clause. in his contract, clever, which is now... Why do you want that, Aaron? Don't worry about it. Can I just have it in there? I'm not coming unless that's in there. It's now active. It's now active. It's activated. A bit active since about October last year.

46:43Pete Donaldson: But yes, so that's in play. Do you not think that A, Skin, will not fare well under that hot, hot sun? And also, he gets very distracted by the crowd and the crowd are very, very distracting. true do you know what I think he'd love it there for the crowd because he loves he'd bring his own flares he would that was Leeds United when he played for Arsenal that was the time I think when Arsenal won like 4-0 or 4-1 there as they always seem to do at Ellen Road in my eyes or in my mind he was like dancing in front of the fans do you remember that time with the Leeds fans and then I remember Ian Wright reposted it on on Twitter as it probably was back then and said oh man I really miss this from playing yeah I told him the fans very Ian Wright cordless yes I think the Leeds United fans may remember that but I think that would be part of the fun though if he became one of theirs then I think there would I could see that I put it to you Marcus can you establish yourself as England's number one if you're the Galatasaray goalkeeper which will probably be in his thinking well I think that being number one for England is probably a step too far at the moment for Aaron Ramsdale because Pickford is clearly the number one.

47:58Pete Donaldson: And I think Dean Henderson now, I think we'd all agree, he's probably the number two. No, I think he could definitely get back in the team. I think that they would probably want to pick Ramsdale. I mean, James Trafford though, if that move does go through to Newcastle, which one would think it would. He'll be out as well. Yeah, but well, but if you're Aaron Ramsdale, okay, you could go to Leeds and West Ham and clearly you're there in front of the manager and you can see, he's going to see you more often. But at Leeds and West Ham, I'm like, you know, if West Ham are anything to go by, you know, the jury's out on what Potter can do there.

48:31Pete Donaldson: And I could just see them having another kind of mediocre season. I hope not because, you know, they deserve a bit better, you would argue. Leeds are a promoted side. Again, Leeds, I think, are more equipped for the Premier League than Southampton were. Galatasaray, you go from a side who were... They'd do well in the Championship. They would do well in the Championship. That's right. they stand up to them historically bad okay in the Premier League you could potentially go to a side who are the champions of the country where they're very very passionate about their football I understand it's not as good as the Premier League but you'd be playing Champions League football which is the highest level of football you can play eight games as well yeah you get eight it's the Premier League plus five years isn't it really it's like when when you're a Premier League star plus five years you've got a Galatasaray you've got a Turkey yeah there you go you see so I think but also as well for him yeah getting back in the England squad would be an achievement and he would be you know I think if he was playing regular and he was playing well then definitely there's that number three dare I even say number two spot if other goalkeepers if two goals are still in charge he'll put anyone in there well you know that he's including people who are playing with Saudi then Turkey's not a problem but obviously the Turkish league is a better standard than the Saudi league but just for him though Jim playing kind of fantasy football in my mind's eye and thinking about it as I say playing in front of those crowds, you'd feel like you're at the biggest club in the world there, or one of them, you know what I mean?

49:54Pete Donaldson: With that crowd and the sense of occasion. You get to mug off Mourinho, which he'd love to do. Is that not a dangerous game to play your own head? Yeah, but you know, he's at Galatasaray, so he's at the safest place possible to do that. As I say, playing Champions League on the big nights and so on, I don't know, I'd love to see him go there. I think he'd be brilliant. I think if you play for Leeds, you're less likely to get flak from Mourinho than if you play for Galatasaray. Just want that on record. All right, fine. Fine. But go on. Go on, Aaron. Do it. Do the daring thing. Oh, dear. Before we get to the under-19 euros madness, I just want to say that Paul Pogba has apparently agreed to join AS Monaco.

50:37Pete Donaldson: Hasn't played since September 2023. He's out in America at the moment with Juventus. Watch your hams. Watch your hams are crying out loud. I hope he's been exercising. He's not just been eating crisps, sat on the sofa. I don't think he has been doing it, Jim. That's a lovely old job, isn't it? To get yourself back up and running. Absolutely, yeah. Where better? Right, let's talk about the chaos in the under-19s Euros semi-final between Spain and Germany. It ended 6-5 for crying out loud. The game included a missed penalty, a truly dreadful own goal right at the death, a goal straight from a corner, three goals in stoppage time, four goals in extra time, and a 119th minute winner.

51:21Pete Donaldson: Sensational scenes. It really was. Why else would we be talking about it? It was great. The goal from the corner was brilliant because it hit the post and went in as well, which is just aesthetically so pleasing. Go and watch the highlights. What I found funny, though, is when Germany go 2-1 up with about 13 minutes of normal time to go, they do kind of like a big celebration, as you would expect. Watching the highlights, you're thinking, oh, lads, there's so... most of the goals still haven't happened in this game. That's the youthful exuberance, though, right? I don't want to take that away from them.

51:51Pete Donaldson: But every time someone goes a goal up, they celebrate as if they've won the game. They're like, you should have learned by now that this is not it. The great thing is because they're so young, they're all doing bundles at every opportunity. Bundles! You are lighter at that age. If I bundled someone, they'd probably die. No, you're all right. Yeah, well, I think it's well worth a turn if you read that. And there was Pablo Garcia, and a German player called Max Moistead both got hat-tricks. Garcia got four. And there was a player called Jan Vergili who looks a real prospect. Yes, he does. He scored a lovely goal and got a brilliant assist for those last two Spanish goals.

52:24Pete Donaldson: And he's in Barcelona's B team at the moment. He looked fantastic. Spanish age cap level team impresses and looks like they've got some tasty players for the future. Very, very... Yeah, how unpredictable. Well, speaking of age cap tournaments, England play in Netherlands today at five o 'clock in the semi of the under-21s. So watch Lee Carsley's Cavaliers there. Now, pardon me during the school run? Yes, there you go. Yeah, we sat at home in a dark room watching it. Oh dear. Well, let's talk about the Veterans Bundesliga controversy, Pete Donaldson. Union Berlin are filing a protest about potential, and I have to say the word potential, although...

53:04Well, deep pockets that Union Berlin under-50s league team.

53:10Pete Donaldson: Yeah. about a potential match fixing in the veterans Berlin under 50s league. Under 50s. Brilliant, isn't it? Is that Thomas Muller? Is that the final age group? Yeah. Harry Kane's top scorer in the league. They appear to be suggesting that their city rivals, Hertha Berlin, lost on purpose on the final day to get them relegated. SD Croatia were the other team trying to avoid relegation and needed to win by six goals to overtake them. SD Croatia was 6-4 down with 15 minutes left versus second place Hertha Berlin. And you think to yourself, the job's done. Incredibly, in that last 15 minutes, SD Croatia, who were on for relegation, managed to overturn it against second place Hertha Berlin and win 12-6.

53:59Pete Donaldson: From 6-4 down, they won 12-6. Can that happen at that level, though? No, creaking knees. No, no, no. I've played in you know conditions where the last 10 minutes are very different from the first yeah Jim come on Union ended up going down on goal difference by one goal if they've if they've done that if they're guilty of that it's so funny and so worth it yeah two words for you machine and police yeah I mean it's it does sound amazing and unlikely it's outrageous 15 minutes left get this So the matches were only an hour long. That's even worse about it. When the match observer, Kurt Schmissowski, was asked whether he had noticed any possible match fixing, he said, I can only say that everything was done legally.

54:50Pete Donaldson: Good for you, Kurt. Well done, Kurt. No goals are illegal. Anyway, let's move on swiftly. The last thing we're going to talk about today is the film Saipan. the film that we all wanted and needed in our lives Pete's Film Club is back bloody hell the trailer for the film about the Saipan incident between Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy has been released a film it's not a short film I was watching football at this point in time and I don't remember it being that big I remember it being on BBC News but it's not worth a fucking film I think in Ireland it was obviously a gigantic deal. But I mean, going after the bountiful, tricky Irish market with this.

55:39Pete Donaldson: Do you know what I mean? It's not, you know, population-wise, it simply doesn't need to be a film. That doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. Steve Coogan is playing Mick McCarthy. He loves it, though. It's just any impression. Any impression, he'll do any film. If it's longer than half an hour, he'll do it. It's a less heavy topic than the Jimmy Savile one he did. Yeah. Okay. It's a less heavy topic than anything he's done, isn't it? Yeah. Although it's still a heavy topic, though, for some people. Sure. For one man. Two men. All right. Two men. Yeah. So Cougars playing McCarthy. Are they going for the market of people who hate Roy Keane?

56:18Pete Donaldson: Must be. It's a bit my night with Gary Lineker, isn't it? It's a bit like it should be a theatre production rather than a film. What, an evening with Gary Lineker? Is that what it was called? That was a film, though. back in the day. That was a TV film, wasn't it? TV film, yeah. Did that not start as a theatre production? Oh, you're right. Can't remember. I feel like this should have been in the theatre first and then with Steve Coogan in it and then even though his... Whenever he's in something live, it always seems like he cancels gigs and stuff because he's not very well or something. I see.

56:46I'm just annoyed because he cancelled the gig I wanted to go and see. Oh, that's a shame.

56:50Pete Donaldson: But Pulp didn't cancel and that was the big one. They didn't, good point. Well, apparently Coogan spoke to Mick McCarthy after being cast to make sure it was a balanced depiction of the fallout. Brave. So, yes. My balanced depiction. It's going to be released later this summer. It's the summer blockbuster. I think it's the summer bollocks buster. We're all going to watch it, let's be honest. I'm not. I'm not. The only way that I will watch this is if I get some hint that this means Roy Keane is now going to enter some other cinematic universe. Right. If this ends with Roy Keane in Superman or the Avengers, then great.

57:27Pete Donaldson: Sticking him up with Superman's iron bollocks. Exactly. Nice. Well, thank you very much for listening to the Football Ramble, part of the Acast Creator Network. Patreon subscribers don't go anywhere. Keep listening for Ramble Uncut. And if you're not a Patreon subscriber, sign up to get Ramble Uncut every single Wednesday. Head over to patreon.com forward slash football ramble now. Thank you, Jim Campbell. Thank you. Thank you for your dolls. Goodbye. And thank you, Mick McCarthy.

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