Lola, Mowgli and Dodson’s Mom (aka Actor Adrienne C. Moore)

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1:21Adrienne C. Moore: I could have the worst day. I could come home, one of them could have pooped or threw up on the floor, and they are just looking at me like, hey, girl, hey. How was your day?

1:37I'm Jen Morose, and this is Furball Confidential. Adrienne Seymour has played some truly standout roles. Remember when everybody was talking about Orange is the New Black? Adrienne was a big part of that. She played inmate Cindy Hayes, a.k.a. Black Cindy, who was doing time at the all-female penitentiary. In this scene, another inmate is asking Cindy for a sneaky favor.

2:04Adrienne C. Moore: I'd be very grateful if you could retrieve it for me. Bitch! If grateful paid the bills, we'd all be Bill Gates.

2:17Adrian went on to play Detective Kelly Duff in three seasons of Pretty Hard Cases. Please, Duff. Actually, I prefer the Duffinator. Adrienne is also known as a committed stage actor, but one of her most important roles is working as an advocate for rescue animals. And she's a proud dog mama to Lola, Mowgli, and Dodson too. Their arrival into her life, as you'll hear, was truly meant to be. And they are a close family. As soon as Adrienne sat down for this conversation, Dodson appeared. And so we started our chat with a 55-pound lab pit bull mix sitting in Adrienne's lap.

2:59Adrian, thank you so much for coming on Furball Confidential with Dodson.

3:06Adrienne C. Moore: Yes, one of the three. Oh, my goodness. He just had a walk today, so he's a little tired. Oh, he's so lovely. And you were just saying before that Dodson is four, but you have also Lola and Mowgli. And I want to start with them, too, because I was on their Instagram, of course. And I went back to the very, very first post that they made. And they said, well, they said of you, boy, does she ever have a lot of love to give. And I'm just curious, was that something that you knew before bringing them into your life? or is that something that you discovered when they came into your life? I think both, if I can be honest.

3:57Adrienne C. Moore: I mean, I've always had a big love for animals. I was that kid growing up who spent time down at the creek, you know, trying to catch and keep crawdads and snakes and fish that I'd find. If a bird fell out of the tree, I'd bring it home and be like, mommy, we have to help the bird. You know, it even continues in my adult life because he was someone that I found on the street as a little puppy in Atlanta. So I've always had this huge, you know, sort of affection for animals. I think they teach us really how to be patient, how to love, how to care for something that, you know, for the most part needs help in order to take care of.

4:47Right.

4:47Adrienne C. Moore: You know, I mean, he could be on his own, I'm sure, and make his way. But I mean, who wouldn't want someone loving on him? Oh, no. They give it right back, you know. Yeah. And to be out on the, I mean, I know we project ourselves onto dogs a lot, but my dog, too, is a rescue and was on the streets. And you got to think that how scary would that be being alone on the streets, right? And especially as you get to know the dog and you see, you know, how dependent upon you they are or, you know, what things, certain things that scare them or trigger them or make them feel uncomfortable. And you're just like, oh, my goodness, I can never, you know, leave this dog without some, you know, supervision because how will it survive?

5:32Adrienne C. Moore: I was at a dog park the other day and one of the dog parents was telling me that someone had left a dog there. Like abandoned the dog there. Abandoned the dog at the park. And I just was, I couldn't, I couldn't believe it because I just thought about like, well, I mean, I can see how these guys are when they, you know, are helpless. Yeah. So I can only imagine. I know. You see those videos and sometimes they capture them and they're heartbreaking, but of people dumping their dog out of their car and just leaving. And for me, there's no... That's what I think his story was. Wow. Wow. He was just on the side of the street.

6:18Your little lap dog there.

6:21Adrienne C. Moore: My little big lap dog. Oh my God. He's so beautiful. Can I have a moment? Your moment in the limelight is over. Thank you. Oh, how sweet. And now the little ones are going to make their little entrance. Well, who was that? Whose bark was that? That's Mowgli. Okay. And here they come. Okay, come on. Once one gets off the lap, then the other one has to make their entrance. Amazing. And here they go. it's a revolving door of dogs in adrian's world she just got dodson off her lap and almost immediately the little ones lola and mogli have taken his place mogli is a bit more brownish and as usual he has a ball in his mouth lola's coloring is a bit darker mostly black they're both just as comfy as can be and if you want to see them in all their cuteness you can watch this episode on our YouTube channel.

7:17It's so obvious now that Lola and Mowgli were meant to be with Adrian, but like a lot of good stories, their adoption journey wasn't exactly a straight line.

7:29Adrienne C. Moore: I had been volunteering with the ASPCA, doing work with them for years. And I feel like I have to preface it with this story because the year prior to them coming into my life, I had just done this campaign with the ASPCA with these two little brown and black puppies. And Leslie Klotz, who worked for the organization at the time, I think she still worked there. She was like, you know, these dogs are up for adoption if you want them. And I was like, I can't take on any dogs right now. My life is chaotic and crazy. I was traveling everywhere. Fast forward to several months after that, they sent me the photo of me and the dogs.

8:11Adrienne C. Moore: And I just put it up in my house. Like, okay, well, I can't have dogs right now, but at least, you know, they'll be in the house. Well, I don't know how you feel about manifestation, but I believe when you want to bring in the things in your life, you put them up, right? You write about it. It's like a vision visuals, you make a visual of it, all the things. And so I think that picture of it being in my house invited them into my life because literally that following year, I was back in California and a friend was like, Hey, my friend works for this organization called hope for pause. They just got some puppies in.

8:46Adrienne C. Moore: You had kind of mentioned you were teetering between wanting a dog or not. Would you mind fostering? And that's how the whole thing started. And initially I just was going to be fostering Lola, my black one. But the day before they brought her to me as a little eight week old puppy, they said, we have one more dog that we couldn't foster her brother. Would you mind taking him? And I was like, sure. Not really thinking what was in store for me, but now I have my, I have my black and brown puppies that I had taken that picture with the year before. So that's what I was saying, that whole like full circle moment.

9:26Full circle. Yeah. And for you, when you were fostering these puppies, like puppies are, they're no joke. Like they're a lot, right? Like how, how did that play out for you?

9:37Adrienne C. Moore: I had several breakdowns. I had several meltdowns, several moments where I'm like, because the foster at the time was telling me that I could, you know, they're like, Like if you're interested in keeping them, you can only keep one. And so it was like every day, every week, it was like a trade-off depending on which dog was the worst that day. Like if one of them had pooped and peed in the house, I was like, that's it. You're the one that's going to go back to the foster. And then they would do something sweet. And then I'm like, oh, how could I? But the moment that really transpired for me was, you know, I had just lost my debt.

10:17Adrienne C. Moore: again, that year, that prior year. And so I was going through, I was going through a lot of emotional feelings. Right. And I, it just happened to be one of those days I was really missing him and really thinking about him. And I was, you know, I had this breakdown and I was, you know, had melted down onto the floor crying and Lola climbed up in my little lap, put her paws like right on my chest and just started licking all of my tears. And then Mowgli climbed into my lap and just like put his paw, cause I was sitting like in a cross-legged form and he put his paws like on my knee and just like sat there.

11:02Adrienne C. Moore: And it just, for me, it was like this moment of them saying, I'm here for you. We're here for you. And, and ever since then, I just, I was like, they're both mine. Oh, that's so beautiful. And, and you said before though, that they were, you, that the foster, the rescue had said, well, you can only take one, but clearly you can otherwise. And I did because she was ready to take one. I said, what do I have to do? I was like, look, we could do this off the books. Right. Whatever we got to do, I'm taking both of them. Oh, that's so wonderful. And they were so, and also they were so bonded, you know, as puppies and Lola as a baby was so shy and timid and Mowgli was just a big ball of energy and very you know confident even as a puppy and so he's helped build her confidence and even now with the big one he kind of protects her from him even though there's no reason he still like stands in between the way whenever he gets too close to her it's it's funny it's like big it's big brother like although he's I he's younger I know but but like well he's yeah Dodson is that he's the younger one but the bigger one and Mowgli is the little one but the older one and trust me we call him the general around here oh that's hilarious he runs the show who Mowgli or Dodson Mowgli for sure okay the little one he's not one bit scared of Dodson now tell me about the Dodson story because I know you got you got Mowgli and Lola during Orange is the new black.

12:37So back in 2017. So it was like four years later that you find Dodson on the streets of Atlanta. What happened there?

12:45Adrienne C. Moore: I'm trying to remember where we were at in that place of life. I think COVID had just kind of was, was kind of happening. And I went home to Atlanta or my, my, my, you know, childhood home to see my mom before heading to back to Toronto. Cause I was filming in Toronto at the time. And I'm, you know, saying my goodbyes to my friend, you know, you know, the little by circuit that you do before you head out of town the next day. Yeah. And so I was I was heading home from that. And it was like midnight. Like, I need to paint this picture just to see just you see how how this dog was purposed in my life.

13:29Adrienne C. Moore: So I was driving home and I was taking the back roads. I was trying to remember if I, if I could remember all the back roads, you know, to get to my mom's house, if you know what I mean. And I kept like missing that one turn and then the next turn to like get the shortcut. And I was like, ah, and this was the last shortcut that I could take before I'd have to go like all the way around to get, you know, back to my mom's house. And I, but I hated that street. I hated that street because when I was in high school, my mom sent us out for like a quick errand and we were just learning how to drive and we got pulled over by the cops and we didn't know like where our ID was at the time, like in the glove compartment.

14:10And the cop was like telling us, like threatening us that he was going to take

14:14Adrienne C. Moore: our parents to jail. And also I had a bad association with the street, but I took it anyway because it was the last street that I could take. And this little dog was sitting on On the side of the road, on Dotson, that's the name of the street, on Dotson, just sitting there at midnight. And I roll past him, and I'm thinking, like, okay, maybe somebody's out here late at night with their dog walking around. So I pulled up, looked at him in my rearview mirror. He looks back at me. No one comes. I roll down the window. I'm like, hello, hello. No one responds. I back up. I get out of the car. and he just, he smells around me and then he just plants himself right in between my legs.

14:58Adrienne C. Moore: Oh, and I was like, okay, I guess you're coming with me. So I brought him back to my mom's house. I woke my mom up. I was like, uh, found a stray. But it sounds like she might've been used to that. And you know exactly what she said to me. She said, I'm not surprised. And so I said, Mom, you know what? Because she was taking me to the airport the next day. I said, just take him to a nearby shelter. I'm sure he'll be good. So the next morning, you know, she drops me off at the airport. He's still on my mind. And I say, you know what? If I can change my flight without any penalty, then I'll go back home and I'll figure out what to do with him.

15:37Adrienne C. Moore: Like that's your sign. Right. And of course, they changed my flight without penalty to the next day. So I went home and I tore up Atlanta, like getting this dog chipped and labeled and the missing report and all the things. And no one, you know, stepped forward. I left him with someone in Atlanta. I said, in case someone comes back to claim him or, you know, if you want to keep him, you know, just whatever. And so. So at the time, were you thinking, I'm going to save this dog, but I don't know that I'm going to take it on for. A thousand percent. OK. I have these two. I have Lola and Mowgli. Like my cup runneth over.

16:22Right.

16:23Adrienne C. Moore: So I go to Canada. I check in, you know, pretty infrequently to see how the dog is doing. I get back seven months later. It's Christmas time. And I'm like, I wonder how this dog is doing. How is the dog? And I reached out to the person that I had left him with. They didn't have him anymore. So you can imagine I was in like fury panic mode. And I said, I just want to know if the dog is okay. If the dog is okay with whatever life he's in, then that's fine. But just find the dog and let me know that he's okay. Through several calls and several people that he had been passed through, I was able to locate him.

17:06Adrienne C. Moore: And I won't get into the full details of it, but I'll say this. When I saw him again, because of the state he was in, I said, can I take the dog back? Yeah. Good for you. And so I took him back. And it was with the promise that unless I or someone could do better for him, he was going to stay with me. Oh, what a story, eh? like it's i think i'm out of my mind though well listen we all are when it comes to our dog love but like at every single juncture it's almost as if like you said like things are meant to be like everything was pulling you back yeah to this dog yeah that's wild

17:59you told me a little bit about them at the beginning but i find like every dog has a very distinct personality. So if you were to go through like Mowgli and Lola and Dodson, what are they like as like individuals?

18:13Adrienne C. Moore: Mowgli is every bit his name. Like in the Jungle Book, he is mischievous. He's chill, but yet like there's always something working in the back of his mind. I think there's a, you know, you talk about their Instagram page. There's a video I posted of him trying to get a ball that I placed on top of the crate. And he was trying to, you know, just kind of reach up with his paws to get it, but that wasn't helping him. So he devised a way to jump up on top of the crate and get the ball and move on just to only satisfy his own need of wanting to play ball. So he's very much a mischievous, take charge, entertain himself, you know, relaxed kind of dog.

19:01Adrienne C. Moore: Lola is every bit of a lap dog and she will let you know it. If she likes you, she will want to cut a lip in your lap and you must pet her without ceasing. The minute you stop, she will paw you and let you know that that is not. I am familiar with that paw. Yeah. Right. And, and so a few years ago, I don't know if you see it I had to have her teeth pulled. And so she forever, this is a low one. Oh, is that a tongue? Her tongue sticks out. But when it gets really long, it's like all the way down here. Oh, she's like a Loli and Lola. She gives good tongue, but she's every bit spoiled. I had their DNA tested some years ago.

19:49Adrienne C. Moore: And I mean, they're based Chihuahua, but they have miniature Pincher, miniature Schnauzer, all the lapdog breeds. All into one. I love it. All into one. And she even has a little bit of pit bull in her. Well, one of the things I've got to say about rescues, I'm just going to say it out loud for this audience, is that if there's a rescue, a lot of them have pit bull in them. And they're wonderful dogs, too. Very wonderful. And that, to me, was the lesson with him. Because I even had my own apprehension. And when I found him, when he came back into my life, I said, I don't know how this is going to fare.

20:30Adrienne C. Moore: But I, you know, again, I had him tested and he has Labrador Retriever. You can see that. And it's almost like split down the middle. And so, again, I work with a trainer. I always advocate if you have a dog or an animal, bring a trainer into the house. it makes your life and their life so much better because you're able to understand communication. And so I, so I always bring trainers in. My two little ones are service animals, Mowgli. Um, he's a therapy dog. So he actually goes to hospitals and learning centers and, you know, uh, he works with, uh, adults or kids with disabilities. So I had to like, really make sure their training was top par.

21:16Adrienne C. Moore: And with him being a pit bull, I was like, people are going to look at him and be intimidated. So I have to make sure that he's bulletproof. He's not, he's like 75 % bulletproof. As he gets older, he's calming down, but I had to learn it's, it's his energy. You know, he has that Labrador and he has that pit bull energy, which are very much on 10. And through a trainer, I had to learn how to utilize that in a positive way. And so one of the things that I do with him, I keep it very physical. We run on the bike. I throw Frisbee with him. He likes to pull. So I do exercises with him. that like tug pull yeah yeah the labrador retriever he likes to he likes to find things so I my mom when I'm visiting her in Atlanta she has a huge like acre property and a lot of it's wooded and so I'll go take a ball and I'll go hide it heaven in the trees in somewhere and he'll spend 30 minutes or more looking for and be so tired after that so it's like engaging his mind and his body is what keeps makes him a happy dog.

22:35Like any good pet owner, Adrian knows how to keep her pups happy, but it's a two way street. They give her so much joy and comfort on a daily basis. And that made her realize that they could also help others as therapy dogs. With the chaos that I, that comes with this business and the traveling, they have become

22:57Adrienne C. Moore: a calming sense of constancy and consistency for me. Yeah, I bet. Walking them, taking care of them. You know, even if my schedule is like jam-packed that day, just carving out that time to care for them. I can't tell you what it does for my brain, you know, in terms of putting a bigger picture, a bigger perspective on what life is and what's important about life. And it's not always about career. and, you know, making money and all those things. It's like, how are you investing in yourself? How are you investing your time? How are you giving back? You know, those kinds of things they help for.

23:41Adrienne C. Moore: And so with that, I noticed that my anxiety is less when I have them around. Especially when I'm, you know, gone for three and four months at a time, I'm, you know, in a place that's unfamiliar. And so all these new things that are being presented to me while I'm asked to be my best creative self, you know, for work, I need something that then gives back to me. So that's that. And then with the Mowgli becoming a therapy dog, it was by accident. I had invited a trainer. They've had so many trainers. I invited this trainer in to work on barking because they have a little barking, a little terrier in them.

24:29Yep.

24:30Adrienne C. Moore: And she got there. And within a few minutes, Mowgli just kind of like went to her and sat by her the entire time. And now to me, he does that all the time. So I didn't think anything of it. But she was the one that pointed out that he has a good sense of people. He should be a therapy dog. So he goes with me or I go with him really because he's the main attraction, not me. Oh, that's so cool. Some learning adult learning centers that I've taken him to. I've taken him to hospitals. And he's so I mean, like he's it's so what what I thought was just so natural. I see how it blesses people that he can just be lifted and put in somebody's lap.

25:17Adrienne C. Moore: And of course, he loves getting all the treats and loves getting all the pets. and he loves a ball. So I'll bring the ball and I'll let people throw the ball and he'll go run and catch it. And, you know, he's just in his world, you know, but he's also blessing and healing, um, uh, other people in the process. Oh, that's so beautiful. And so it's just Mowgli who's, who's a therapy dog. It's just Mowgli because you can only, you can only do one at a time. And so Lola needs to go for her, um, evaluation. Okay. So the plan is for Lola to, to follow in Mowgli's footsteps or footprints, I should say.

25:54Yeah, I would love to eventually make all of them serve as animals. You've mentioned in this conversation, like, it sounds like you have a pretty deeply spiritual side to you. Is that fair? It's very fair. I've had a few conversations and a lot of the times people see a connection between the spiritual world and the animal world. And I'm curious, for you, does that resonate? Do you see a connection between the two? I always say when I die and come back, I want to come back as a very spoiled dog or cat.

26:35Adrienne C. Moore: for sure. I think I even, you know, this may be going too far with it, but I sometimes think that animals were possibly human, you know, in another life form or another lifetime. Yeah. But I definitely do. And that's just on a, like, you want to look at from a spiritual perspective, but from a scientific perspective, I think it also proves itself because Even in their training with trainers, they always encouraged me to do nonverbal training with them. And so that's just that's all spirit. That's all nonverbal communication. They also taught me that oftentimes dogs sense us through our smells.

27:27Yep.

27:28Adrienne C. Moore: And so they can smell when we're afraid, when we're happy, when we're in a good mood, when we're in a bad mood. They can even be in the room, especially, and Dotson's really sensitive to this. I can be in the room with someone that I don't quite care for, but I'm being polite and being nice. Or if I'm walking them and there's someone on the street that I'm a little like, I don't know about this cat. He senses it. And I can see and feel him just like perk up. Yeah. And his tail goes up straight. his ears go up. A couple of those hairs run down his back, that run down his back go up. And I'm like, yeah, he's really sensing my energy right now.

28:14Adrienne C. Moore: There's a part of it that I, I'm not, I'm not mad at it. You know, I encourage it because I do notice, this is going to sound really facetious to say, but I do notice the immediate respect that his presence brings. You know, the little ones, people, like the little ones can bark and growl and then people will be like, oh, that's cute. But he gets the barking or he gets the growl and he gets that little tight jaw. People think twice. Yep, yes. And I'm not mad at it. I'm curious in that scenario where, let's say you're in a room and as you said, there's someone that you, you know, you have to interact with, but maybe not your favorite person.

28:55and Dodson is there and you can tell he's sensing something. Now, do you think he's sensing your reaction to the person or is he having his very own reaction to the person or both? Maybe both. Yeah.

29:11Adrienne C. Moore: Maybe both because there are times where, you know, he's off leash, maybe in a room of people and he can go up to every person with, you know, and, and, you know, when you start having pit bulls, you sort of learn to read some of their, their physical and bodily cues. Yep. When he, his mouth is wide open, he's like, and he's rubbing up on people or leaning up on them. He is in his world when his jaws are tight and he's smelling a lot and he's looking a lot. He's sensing and sussing people out. And sometimes he'll do that when I'm not even in, you know, have him on leash where you can really feel that tethering energy.

29:58Adrienne C. Moore: He's just kind of sensing it himself. And I also know, I think he knows that he has a bad rap as a breed because I noticed when people immediately have an anxiety or an apprehension of him, he definitely feels that. And I think it hurts his feelings to the point where he actually becomes what they fear because he's like so hurt that you would assume that he's going to hurt you. Yeah. Well, they've all taken turns, right? I remember it was like Doberman Pinchers and then it was Rottweilers that everyone was... And then German Shepherds and now it's Pitbulls and it's... Yeah. They are some of the biggest lovers I've ever encountered.

30:47Adrienne C. Moore: And I don't know why he came in. I don't know why the universe had him in store for me. But what I say, I will say he's taught me a lot about

30:59Adrienne C. Moore: making the wrong assumptions about things, about people, which then the larger lesson is don't judge a book by its cover or by a reputation that someone may have. Get to know them, yourselves, but I truly walk in the blessing every day.

31:25I have one more question. Thank you so much for sharing all this time and all these stories about your three pups. Healing has come up during this conversation in terms of Mowgli going and helping others heal. I wonder like for you, how much of a healing force have these dogs been for you? So much, so much.

31:53Adrienne C. Moore: In navigating the loss of my father, in navigating the highs and lows of my profession. Yeah.

32:31Adrienne C. Moore: insecurity. They heal that, um, that vulnerability, uh, in me just, just by their pure excitement to see me when I walk through their door. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like, I can have the worst day. It solves so much, doesn't it? I can have the worst day. I could come home. One of them could have pooped or threw up on the floor and I'm just, and they are just looking and be like, Hey girl, Hey, how was your day? Um, and yeah. And so I, I, what they give me emotionally, it makes me want to give back as best as I can to them. Yeah. That's so lovely. And Mowgli at the time right now is, you know, he's going through, he's eight now they're, they're eight.

33:22Adrienne C. Moore: He's going through this heart murmur. And I say he's going through it because Because the doctors are like, I don't know how much longer he's going to live. And he needs to be on this medication and all these kinds of things. And I've taken a very holistic approach. And I'm researching. I'm actually reading these books now on herbal remedies for dogs. Because it's like, I want him to have the best life that I could possibly provide. Because of the love and the joy and the healing that he has given me so far. Oh, that's gorgeous. Oh, thank you, Adrienne. Honestly, this has been such a beautiful conversation and hopefully it wasn't too bad of a conversation to have on your door.

34:06Adrienne C. Moore: Oh, no, I loved it. I enjoyed it. Thank you. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I love my doggies. I feel like I talk to my boyfriend all the time about the dog. So having a designated moment to be able to talk about them is great.

34:22the healing force of dogs so beautifully put by adrian seymour you can catch her in the latest season of poker face on peacock and if you haven't already checked out orange is the new black or pretty hard cases i'd say this is your sign and hey if you're looking to support a pet related cause today adrian's got a few for you as she mentioned in our chat she's deeply involved in working with rescue animals and with organizations, including the ASPCA and Hope for Paws, which is where she got Lola and Mowgli.

34:52Adrienne C. Moore: I always believe that, you know, there are enough dogs out there to rescue, to keep our hands and our hearts busy for a while. We'll include links to both the ASPCA and Hope for Paws in our show notes. And if you like what you're hearing on Furball Confidential, throw us a bone, will ya? Leave us a review. Five kibbles would be our suggestion. Tell a friend, give us a follow. You know the drill. It all helps.

35:20Furball Confidential is created and hosted by me, Jen Moroz. Our show producer is Talia Schlanger. She also co-created our theme music with David Travers-Smith with Brian Kobayakawa on bass. Reza Daya does our sound and video design and editing. Danny Stover does our social media. Our show artwork is by Adrian Foro. and Marina Hanna does our audience development. And thanks, as always, to the Furball who started it all, Clutch. I'm Jen Moroz. See you next time on Furball Confidential.

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