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5 May 2026 · 19m · 8 chapters

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Making a Midwife | Life of a Midwife Ep. 1

In short

Two midwives explain how they became midwives and what they learned in the delivery room and postnatal care, emphasizing unexpected birth experiences and the importance of postnatal planning.

Guests

  • Marie: Nearly 20-year midwife career. Initially interested after a school talk; briefly studied biology and joined the RAF, then left to train as a midwife. Key claim: birth can be ordinary or dramatic, and postnatal needs matter more than birth plans.
  • Notable example: Her first on-the-job moment involved roadworks delaying a woman; she arrived just as the baby’s head emerged and delivered quickly.

Leah

Registered midwife for just over 12 years. Became a mature student after a “rubbish” first birth (long back-to-back labor, failed manual rotation, emergency C-section) and later a planned home birth. Key claim: system failures and inadequate support can follow births; doula work can be an entry point.

Notable example

As a student midwife, her first shift was a night shift where she was guided to catch a baby immediately.

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Chapters

3:16

Marie’s Journey into Midwifery

Explore how Marie discovered her passion for midwifery after a talk in school.

“I followed a different path and I did my A-levels and I went to university and then I dropped out of university and I joined the Air Force.”
5:28

Unexpected Delivery Experience

Hear about a surprising delivery that showcases the unpredictability of birth.

7:57

Reflections on Pain and Relationships

Discuss the impact of birth pain on relationships and personal experiences.

10:01

The Need for Postnatal Plans

Understand the importance of postnatal care planning over birthing plans.

“what i felt differently about was postnatal care i didn't really have a birth plan necessarily really.”
13:19

Leah's Midwifery Journey

Leah shares her experience and challenges in becoming a midwife after a tough birth.

“Leah, a registered midwife for just over 12 years, began her midwifery journey in the aftermath of the birth that left her with a lingering question.”
14:05

From Birth Experience to Midwifery Journey

The speaker shares their challenging first birth experience and the realization it prompted about the support women receive during childbirth.

“I met the right person, got married, decided to start a family, and I had thought I was really well prepared for birth.”
16:13

The Path to Becoming a Doula and Midwife

The speaker discusses their transition from a previous career to becoming a doula and eventually a midwife, including their training experiences.

“lots of university education in a different subject.”
18:25

First Experiences as a Student Midwife

An account of the speaker's first shift as a student midwife, including the challenges and emotional aspects of delivering a baby.

“I mean, they say you'd never forget your first time.”
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2:20Often, life begins not with certainty, but with surprise. And the same is true of the paths we find ourselves on. In this episode, two midwives trace the moments that pulled them into their work. One, through a difficult first birth that left her needing answers. The other, an early instinct she ignored for years, until it returned. I'm Giovanna Fletcher, and from Happy Mum, Happy Baby, this is Life of a Midwife.

2:57Marie's nearly 20-year career in midwifery has shown her birth in its many ordinary and unexpected forms. Birth often announces itself with drama but sometimes, as you'll see, it barely announces itself at all.

3:15I was a midwife for I think it was just short of 20 years so I like to round it up to 20 years because that sounds better doesn't it nice round number I got into midwifery because and I think this is like a very traditional thing now I'm going to show my age because somebody came to give us a talk at school and I was sat in the library next to my friend and this midwife was giving us a talk about you know what midwifery was like and I remember thinking oh my goodness like a I never really knew this existed but this is this is me this is my job I turned to my friend and I said oh my god like I'd love this and the look on her face couldn't have been worse and she was like oh my god it's disgusting She was like, and you'd be terrible at it.

4:08I was so embarrassed to have that. I never mentioned it again.

4:17I followed a different path and I did my A-levels and I went to university and then I dropped out of university and I joined the Air Force. Because the RAF like you to be very well-rounded, they will pay for you to do lots of different education and whatever. so I was doing a biology degree part-time and thoroughly enjoying it but I was really loving the bits where we did about fetal conception and fetal development all those kind of things and I was walking to work one morning I worked in Whitehall in a bunker underneath the Ministry of Defence main building and I was walking to work and it was lovely weather and I'd got off the tube a little bit early I was walking across Trafalgar Square thinking oh what do I need to do today and I thought I need to put my paperwork in for my next year of university and then it just came to me like a moment of clarity.

5:12I was 25 then and I thought you know what I really really want to be a midwife and I've always really wanted to be a midwife and now is the time.

5:28for anybody who's familiar with Trafalgar Square there's a big water stones on the corner and I went in there and I went downstairs to the career section and I picked up a textbook that I now know is like you know one of the seminal midwifery textbooks opened it and there was a picture of a midwife with her hand in the placenta checking the membranes and I shut the book and was like that is my job that's what I want to do

5:57I worked at a hospital that we'd got some temporary roadworks outside the front of the hospital and it was a right nightmare you know because obviously you know you're either 20 minutes early or 20 minutes late and you know you can never judge it and I turned up early for a night shift and the place was going like a fairground and the coordinator for the day saw me and said oh come come come can you come and take this woman and I remember thinking oh I've got half an hour before I meant to start you know it's precious time of being able to put my sandwiches in the fridge and just get my head into you know the space of obviously I can't say no so I said yeah yeah absolutely it's fine so go down to the room and she'd had a baby before and I'd only got the briefest sort of notes on her really her name and whatnot went and introduced myself and I said I'm so sorry you know you've had to wait so long and I said but you caught up in the roadworks at the top and I said they're meant to be there for eight months I said and I think it's knocking on 18 months now do you know what I mean I said but every time I drive past there's no one working there so that might explain it you know chat chat chat chat chat but we'll start off I said we'll just do the basics I'll do a temperature blood pressure pulse I said and then I can have a feel of your tummy we can make a plan see what's going on at the time we had these little plastic strips called temper dots like a really rubbish temperature thing but you had to leave it under their tongue for a minute so obviously I'd left it under the tongue and done a proper pulse you know done a blood pressure chat chat chat chat and then I said oh do you want to just hop up on the bed and um have a feel of your tummy and I don't know what made me sort of look down but I just thought there was something a bit odd in the way that the woman was moving I can't really describe it she just wasn't moving normally and as I took her leggings I helped to take her leggings down the baby's head was out there's just this little face looking at me and I said oh oh uh did you want to um give a push and she did and then the baby delivered and I was like oh well there's that then congratulations and I said you know when I was wittering on to you about the roadworks you could have mentioned it it was it would have been completely appropriate just letting me carry on you know a minute under the tongue sat there with a pulse saying oh you know blah blah blah have you got a birth plan and I'm always so old lovely and how old are your other baby oh nice you know how are they feeling about you know the standard chip no nothing no just not mention it the heads heads out okay and she said your face was a picture

8:35but I mean I'm in awe of people who like that who make it look easy and that's the thing there's such a spectrum you know I've looked after women in the pool that their heads you know fully crowning perineums blanched and I'm really trying to be mindful of my face because I'm busy thinking oh ouch you know and doing a few pelvic floor exercises myself well I remember and people looked at me in the face and said oh it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be it's you know it's okay and then there's a whole spectrum running down to you know screaming and shouting and climbing the walls and it's just nuts and so when I had my children I remember thinking in labour I don't understand how I'm not dead surely this is the level of pain where people die because I can't be in more pain and still be alive but even that I mean I can laugh about it now I didn't find it particularly traumatic but even that thought can you imagine as a person who doesn't have any experience of you know maybe you've not been in hospital before maybe you've not even farted in front of your husband before and your first experience you have of this is you know doing a poo in front of him or throwing up or screaming and shouting and you know being completely out of control that's nuts that's massive for your relationship and for you and for your parents and journey but we just don't give it any space we're just well okay congratulations crap on

10:05what i felt differently about was postnatal care i didn't really have a birth plan necessarily really. But that was the bit for me that I was like, what? And I was used to newborn care, but yeah, I remember being sat there thinking, what on earth is going on here?

10:25My first baby was awake and feeding till four o 'clock in the morning. And I remember saying to, you know, one of the midwives that came in, he's just been awake all night. And I've been awake feeding him all night and she said yeah it's hard or you know something along those lines and I remember thinking oh sorry I never realized it was true I thought like people were just maybe exaggerating a little bit or saying oh he's been awake for I didn't know he's actually as if he might be faulty you know as if you could you take him away and maybe get another one that you know doesn't do this and that was the bit that blew my mind I was like oh my goodness and then I have to go home and start worrying about him and wondering if this is normal and that red patch was that there yesterday and does that poo look normal you know that was my job so I can only imagine what it's like for you know people who don't have that yeah that's what you need you need a postnatal plan not a birth plan because postnatals when it starts all you know the sleep deprivation kicks in and yeah life is not the same again I was an absolute and continue to be an absolute nerd about anything to do with birth it's genuinely not me looking back with rose tinted glasses or anything like that I loved it from day one I was just like this is it and just as an aside when I said to my friend who was the same friend that sat next to me in the library 25 we were not 14 anymore I said I'm leaving the air force I'm gonna be a midwife and she said oh that's disgusting what an awful job you'll be terrible at it so nice to see she was at least consistent

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13:25Leah, a registered midwife for just over 12 years, began her midwifery journey in the aftermath of the birth that left her with a lingering question.

13:40Like many midwives, I came to midwifery as a mature student because I had a bit of a rubbish birth. If you had told me growing up that I would be a midwife, I think I would have been very confused. Definitely wasn't something that was on my radar at all. In fact, having babies wasn't on my radar at all. I met the right person, got married, decided to start a family, and I had thought I was really well prepared for birth. I'd always had a bit of an interest in women's health, and I read widely around pregnancy and birth. I went to the antenatal classes, was privileged to be relatively kind of young, fit and healthy, and thought I had a good chance of having a really good experience and nothing could have been further from the truth.

14:32I had what I now know is kind of a classically rubbish first birth. It was a difficult long labour with a back-to-back baby that couldn't be budged, failed manual rotation and an emergency section at nearly fully dilated. Afterwards, I had a really difficult time as well. I struggled to breastfeed. I was quite socially isolated. I just felt like my whole body, identity, life had just been hit by a truck. And I didn't really know why. I didn't understand why that had happened when I thought I'd been so well prepared. And the more I spoke to other women who had had babies around the same time as me, the more I realized we all had really similar stories.

15:15You know, none of us had the birth that we had expected or hoped for. Why is this the case? Why is this happening to all of us when we should, at least some of us, should be having positive experiences? Why has the system let us all down? Now, it took me a while to kind of move away from the job I was in at that time, which could not have been more different. I was working for the BBC. I was behind the scenes in arts and factual entertainment, kind of coming up with program ideas and things. and when I went back to work part-time kind of sitting in the office at my computer churning out ideas for pilots and so on I just thought this is not it this is not where my heart is you know and that's no harm to anybody who feels that is where their heart is but it just wasn't for me when I thought no I need to step back from this and do something that really matters to me which was birth So it took me some time to kind of find my way to midwifery because I had not long completed lots of university education in a different subject.

16:23I kind of thought about it for a while and I found out about the role of a doula, who is essentially just a lay birth companion. It's somebody who provides practical and emotional and informational support around the perinatal period. And I thought this sounds like a great way in for me as a mother of a young child and somebody who still needs to be kind of flexible. So I did some training around that and long story short I was a doula and I provided birth companionship across central Scotland at home and hospital births for about six years and then I had another baby. So the first one was kind of the classic really difficult birth and an emergency cesarean section in hospital and then second birth was a planned home birth.

17:06Every person in the UK has the legal right to give birth wherever they want and to be attended by a professional in that place of birth. The rates of home birth are varying across the UK. They're generally quite a small proportion of overall births. In any average health board, I'm just sort of estimating figures that tends to be between kind of 2 and 4 or 5 % at a maximum. but obviously some boards will have a very dedicated home birth team and a more kind of publicised, streamlined service that the numbers will be more than that and other areas will be maybe less well-equipped. I have had a baby at home and I can tell you it does feel very different from having a baby in the hospital and as a doula I've had lots of different births in homes and hospitals and yeah, absolutely being in somebody's home environment it's much more intimate.

17:57it. The person generally feels more comfortable. Had a very, very different birth and it ended up being about 90 minutes of labour and she was born so quickly that my husband caught the baby, so it couldn't have been more different. And ultimately I decided the time was right for me to go back to university and become the full package and do midwifery. So that's what I did. I qualified in 2013.

18:32I mean, they say you'd never forget your first time. And I definitely remember my first birth as a student midwife. Most university training courses in the UK, you do roughly kind of 50-50 classroom instruction, and then you do practical placement, predominantly in and around a hospital or community services. And for me, my first shift as a first-year student midwife was a night shift, which was daunting in and of itself. Just going into that environment of the maternity hospital is terrifying. You know, you're navigating this strange space. You don't know where to get changed. You don't know where to put your stuff.

19:15Everybody looks bigger, braver, stronger, tougher than you. You go into this room and get the handover from the day shift of all the ladies that are in labour at that moment and it is just absolutely bamboozling and terrifying. You don't speak the language, you don't understand most of the terms. And then the coordinator for the shift kind of looks at you and rolls their eyes and says, right, you go with this midwife who will be your mentor for the shift. so this poor woman was assigned me as her student and I remember clearly walking down the corridor and it's the same hospital I work in now I even remember which room it was and we knocked on the door and we went in and there was a woman on all fours on the bed with a light shining on her tail end and it was very clear from what we could see and from the noises she was making and what she was doing that she was about to have a baby.

20:12Literally flung in at the business end of things. No lovely long labour, no time to get to know this person, just put your gloves on, put your hands here, we're having a baby. And that's how most student midwives will catch their first baby. Essentially they will put their hands on probably you know the baby's presenting part usually the head and the midwife will then put her hands on the student's hands and literally guide that birth and guide the student in catching that baby which is actually so so special because when you think about all the generations of hands going back I mean how old is midwifery hundreds of thousands of years, probably.

20:59It's so special, even though the actual situation might be quite terrifying and intimidating, it's so special to think that your mentor is putting her hands on your hands and somebody else put their hands on her hands, and that's how we learn.

21:26Thank you so much for listening. Please do like, subscribe, and leave us a review. We would love to know what you think. And if you're a midwife and would like to take part in this series, you can find contact details in the podcast description.

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From the publisher

To celebrate the international day of the midwife we’ve got something very special for you — the very first episode of our brand-new miniseries!


Every Thursday, we’ll be sharing powerful stories from midwives, past and present, as they reflect on the moments that have shaped their lives and careers.


In this first episode, we'll trace the moments two women were pulled into midwifery.


We’ll return to our regular guest episodes next Tuesday xx


If you’re interested in being part of the Life of a Midwife series, we’d love to hear from you — just drop us an email [email protected]


Links from our midwives:

Little Light Support offers independent, trauma-informed birth debriefs for women and families — particularly those who’ve had complex, confusing or difficult experiences

Petition · Make birth safer: protect midwives' working hours - United Kingdom · Change.org

Hard Pushed: A Midwife's Story and Womb: The Inside Story of Where We All Began

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