How Albertans Stopped a Separatist Movement; Why ‘You Can See Everything’ is Smashing the Box Office

0:00You now have to push the past in the past and think about the future because that championship was great, but it doesn't win you one game in the 2026-27 season. Hi, everybody, and welcome to Here's the Scoop from NBC News. I'm Yasin Vasugyan. So today on the show, the NBA season is off and running, tipping off today. The New York Knicks are raising their championship banner, and then they're taking on the Philadelphia 76ers with the GOAT, leading this team, LeBron James, who just signed on to the 76ers. We're going to see how that plays out. The Eastern Conference has a whole new set of superstars as well.

0:39Mike Tirico is saying that the Western Conference is still better than the East. So we're getting into all that. Plus, everybody is raving about the new Nathan Fielder documentary. You can see everything about Elizabeth Holmes. We're going to talk to someone who knew about it way before all of us did and even got to talk to director Nathan Fielder about it.

1:05Up first, though, so we don't normally think about Canadians as being particularly divisive. But this week, Residence Alberta voted on whether to split off from the country entirely. In the end, around three quarters of Alberta voters chose to remain in Canada, a win for Prime Minister Mark Carney, who has been pushing for Canadian unity amidst tensions with President Donald Trump. But why did some Albertans want to leave Canada in the first place? And how could this referendum affect U.S.-Canada relations moving forward? For this, I want to bring in Miki Jurich. She's a politics and policy reporter for Politico Canada.

1:40Hi, Miki. Hi, thanks for having me. It's great to have you. Okay, so I think a lot of people kind of woke up to this news going, wait, what? What is happening in Canada? And why is it that Alberta, if anybody in Alberta, would like to separate from Canada? Can you tell us what is going on here? What is driving the folks that did, in fact, vote to separate? Well, really, there has been a lot of frustration from many Albertans regarding their relationship with Ottawa, primarily under Liberal prime ministers. Alberta is an oil-rich province. They're deeply conservative, one of the most conservative regions in all of Canada.

2:18And they have blamed 10 years under former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for hurting their oil and gas industry through environmental policies. So Prime Minister Mark Carney has been working to repeal some of those energy policies and give a boost to the oil and gas industry. But people have not forgotten what the last 10 years have been like for their sectors. And so that's where really what's really driving this desire to separate is that they feel that they could set their own rules for their own resources in their province. And then Ottawa has no say at all. They are just feel very alienated from the rest of Canada.

2:56And that's kind of been a sentiment that's run through the province for many, many decades. What about the United States? How do they feel about the United States? So a lot of people in Alberta actually have a favorable relationship with the United States. Separatists that I've spoken to on the ground view themselves culturally more aligned with the United States. They view the rest of Canada more aligned with kind of a Europe-style mentality. A lot of people in Alberta, like I mentioned, they're deeply conservative. So a lot of them actually like Donald Trump. Not all separatists like Donald Trump, but a lot of Albertans do like Donald Trump.

3:29I've spoken to people who want to separate, who actually wouldn't mind becoming the 51st state. And I also spoke to a lot of separatists and separatist leaders who say independence would not be possible if the United States wasn't our ally and wasn't our next door neighbor. Why did this vote happen now? It's a very complicated question, but a lot of people have been frustrated because we've had a liberal federal government that's in power for over 10 years. Right. So some people I talk to are just fed up with having a liberal government in Ottawa. But at the same time, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith, a huge base of her United Conservative Party are actually people who believe in separatism.

4:09So over the past year, she's kind of made steps that allowed for a legal process to bring this question forward. And so that allowed people to voice their opinion on this. And actually, a lot of people are upset with the premier for even allowing this question on the ballot. But overwhelmingly, right, voters in Alberta rejected this push to potentially leave Canada. But there was a significant portion of voters that voted in favor of it, 25 percent or so, right? In the past, separatist parties, for instance, have kind of received a lot smaller percentages, like one or two percent. What did you make of this huge jump now to 25 percent?

4:52So a lot of that had to do with people who don't necessarily want to separate from Canada, but they wanted to send Ottawa a message. So symbolic. Very symbolic. They believe that if they had a high enough number, they could use that number as leverage so that their premier, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith, could work with Prime Minister Mark Carney and maybe get some more policy gains out of him. So is that specifically policy gains when it comes to immigration? There's nine other questions on the ballot, and a lot of them have to do with immigration. And what Danielle Smith is essentially seeking is a mandate to choose what kind of immigrants could come into her province.

5:34She mostly wants to have immigration only to fill certain labor shortages in the province. She wants to require that voters in the province have to show a Canadian citizenship ID in order to actually vote in provincial elections. She is considering not offering up certain health care or education services to newcomers because she believes that they are straining the social systems in her province. So these are kind of things that she's going to be talking about in the coming weeks, not only with the prime minister, but with people in her province. And a lot of people that I've spoken to in Alberta believe that these nine questions, these immigration ones specifically, are soft separatist ideas.

6:24So people in the province very much view these questions as appeasing the separatist agenda. Prime Minister McCurney actually campaigned strongly against the separatist movement. How helpful are these results to his agenda going forward, particularly when it comes to trade with the United States? I think it's extremely helpful. I was on the ground the last week seeing him campaign throughout Alberta, which was very astonishing to see because he is so loved there. And Alberta is not a welcoming place for any liberal leader. But right now, Prime Minister Mark Carney is the most popular leader in Alberta.

7:00But that's interesting because you also say that many people in Alberta love President Trump and Prime Minister Mark Carney and President Trump have gone toe to toe throughout his entire time so far as prime minister. There's a lot of progressive conservatives they identify as progressive conservatives who lean more with the policies that Carney is bringing in. You know, he really motivated the pro-unity Team Canada campaign last week. People had showed up to his rallies in the thousands. I think he ended up speaking to over 10 ,000 people at two rallies. Even his office was caught off guard by how many people showed up.

7:35People are backing his message. He's promised even today to continue to work with Alberta to try to address some of their concerns about immigration. I don't know what that's going to look like yet, but he also is somebody who considers himself an Albertan. He refers to Alberta as home. He was raised there in Edmonton. And so fixing this relationship with Alberta is also very deeply personal for the prime minister because it is what he says is his home. And he doesn't want to obviously fracture the country, but also Alberta is really central to his economic agenda. He wants to diversify trade.

8:11He wants to grow the economy and attract investment. And he can't do that without Alberta's support. Miki Juric, thank you. Thank you so much. All right, coming up. Everyone is seeing You Can See Everything, the Elizabeth Holmes documentary. It's selling out theaters across the country. We're going to break down why this movie is captivating audiences and how director Nathan Fielder created the buzziest movie of the fall. That's next. And also, while you're listening to the ads, why not take a moment to subscribe to Here's the Scoop? And if you already subscribe, thank you. Take a second to rate and review us.

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10:30And we're back with Here's the Scoop from NBC News. So it seems like everyone saw this new A24 documentary, You Can See Everything, during opening weekend this past weekend. Because it smashed box office records, pulling in$15 million with sold-out theaters all over the country. Critics are raving, and the internet is buzzing, and it has been, basically, since the directors, Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim, surprise debuted at the Telluride Film Festival last month. The movie is about 34 days, leading up to Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes' prison sentence for defrauding investors. It's a wild ride, lots of surprises, lots of twists.

11:09Wired global editorial director Katie Drummond got the only interview with Nathan Fielder so far. And we are going to attempt to have a spoiler-free conversation about what she learned and the movie. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. Okay, this documentary about a tech entrepreneur, it's blown up. You, though, had the privilege of seeing this film a long time before it was actually released. Did you expect the reaction that it's getting now? I did. I it was a terrible secret to have to keep to have gone I signed an NDA along with our features director at Wired and we went and we screened the film at the end of August and we walked out and we were both just totally like stunned silence like we didn't know what to say to each other and I think we sat down and had a drink and we were just like yeah this is going to be a big deal like this movie is going to be a really big deal and then Telluride happened and it and it blew up online.

12:10They released, I think, a teaser, like a 30-second teaser for the movie. Why would I deceive you? There's no reason for me to do that. Okay.

12:28All right. Okay, good shot. And I'm sure, as you saw, it went viral. I mean, it was crazy. And I was going crazy as that was happening because we were trying to lock down this cover with Nathan. And I just felt like I knew this secret that everybody was talking about. And I wanted to be like, me too. I know. I know what it is. And I like, I couldn't do it. I had to stay classy, you know. So you couldn't even say that you had seen it. No. I mean, we take NDAs very seriously at Wired. So we like, the staff after Telluride, everyone was like, we got to reach out to his publicist. Let's try to get an interview.

13:06We should try to do something on the film. And we were like, stop. Don't talk to anyone. And they were like, what is your problem? And we just, we didn't tell anyone on the Wired team until the interview and the photo shoot were done. I thought it was interesting because, like, you asked Nathan, like, why did Elizabeth pick him? Yeah. What did you make of the answer that he gave you to that question? Because I think all of us were thinking that. Like, wait, what? Like, when we got wind of this documentary that it had dropped at Telluride, and that's how we initially had heard about it, was like, why is Nathan Fielder doing this?

13:49Like, why did she choose him? What did you make of his response to that? I think that there is a lot that he still doesn't know or understand about her, about her partner, about their motives. And I genuinely think he does not understand why they invited him in. And he says as much in the interview that, you know, her partner, Billy, had seen some of his work. She had not really seen very much of it. and, you know, a lot of the work that he has done is comedic. It's funny. It's very funny. But that he felt like she had maybe a different sense of humor than him. I mean, he comments that her favorite movie is Elf and I wouldn't liken anything he's ever made to Elf, the Will Ferrell movie.

14:30It's like a very different kind of comedy. But I think it's funny because he is, I think, a terrible choice for her to have made to bring into her home. But for audiences, he's like the best possible choice because he is so skilled at grappling with uncomfortable situations and asking really blunt questions and sort of examining and scrutinizing human behavior that for audiences, it's such a riveting experience to watch the film. But it makes you wonder, like, what was she thinking? You actually said that you've seen the movie multiple times and after you saw it for the first time, you kind of had empathy for Elizabeth Holmes.

15:11And then you went back and reminded yourself of what she actually did and what she was able to pull off and who she defrauded. And then you saw it again and you were like, yeah, yeah, no, that empathy is now out the door. Yeah. I mean, remember, you know, I'm a parent and she has two very small children. And so watching someone in their final days before they go to prison with their two young kids, that is a very sad thing. That's a very sad thing for everybody involved. And I felt all of that sadness. And then I did go back and remind myself about what exactly happened to Theranos and felt conned by this woman that I watched.

15:48And you watch her crying and there's so much emotion in the first half of the film. And then you just feel like you're being lied to all over again. It's really interesting. It's really interesting. It's just an interesting experience to go see the movie and sort of see how different people experience it. because someone who doesn't have kids might have a totally different view on that first half of the movie. Well, even Nathan Fielder, when you talk to him about whether or not he felt lied to, he couldn't even necessarily answer the question in like a yes or no answer. Yeah, yeah. That definitively he was lied to or not.

16:23Like, I think it seemed like even to this day, he doesn't know if she was deceptive throughout the entire filmmaking process. If she was deceptive or if she conceives of a lie differently than the average person. Is something a lie if it's not true, but you say it and believe it to be true? At the end of the day, she was doing kind of what a lot of the, it seems, tech entrepreneurs do, which is kind of like faking it, right, till you make it. And it took a reporter, right, to figure out that it was actually all fake. We're now in the middle of this huge tech boom right now, artificial intelligence, and you're in charge of coverage at one of the leading tech media outlets.

17:04Has this kind of made you think about what is going to actually come to fruition and what is not, like what is real and what is not real, looking back on what we all went through with Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes? I think the movie is a really important reminder for everyone, but particularly journalists, particularly journalists covering this moment in technology, to remember that so much of what we experience of the tech industry is smoke and mirrors, is obfuscation, is said or done with an ulterior motive. I mean, often that motive is just profit, right? It's just about money. These are businesses.

17:48But I think it's really important when Sam Altman says something or Dario Amadai says something that you scrutinize their underlying motivation for saying it. And, you know, I do think tech journalism has come a long way since the days of Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes. I think that was a cautionary tale for so many journalists that it's really important not to take what a CEO or a founder says at face value, but to really interrogate the claims underneath it. And I think, I mean, to apply that to this moment in AI is incredibly important, right? because you have these executives saying all kinds of outlandish things about what their products can do.

18:26And it's really important to interrogate the premise and interrogate why they may be inclined to say what they're saying. Katie Drummond, thank you. Thank you. All right. We're going to take a very quick break. And when we are back, a new NBA season tips off today. And yes, we're all asking it. Can the New York Knicks run it back? Mike Tirico explains how LeBron James and his 76ers are going to give them their first test, plus his full season preview just ahead. This holiday, all plans, even unlimited, are just$15 a month. A holiday deal this good obviously deserves an enormously expensive holiday song, like all I want.

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20:33And we're back with Here's the Scoop from NBC News. So it feels like just yesterday, New York City was turned upside down during the Knicks championship run. But we are about to do it all over again because a brand new NBA season tips off today. There were some major shakeups in the offseason. And yes, more than just LeBron James moving to Philly. So to bring us a preview of the biggest contenders and what to expect on the court this season, I want to bring in NBC Sports NBA play-by-play voice, Mike Tirico. Hi. Hi, Aspen. How are you? I'm good. It's good to see you. Great to be here. I cannot believe tip-off is here.

21:07It feels like just yesterday that New York was alive with the finals. But you get to announce, be the play-by-play announcer for the biggest game tonight. Yeah. Right? You got the Philly 76ers, Philadelphia 76ers up against the Knicks. How do you feel about tonight? It's a great night. And it's even more special or meaningful personally for me because I grew up in New York. Yeah. And I grew up going to Madison Square Garden. You think about that roof, that iconic roof since the 1960s. every big musical act, every big hockey and basketball player have played and performed under that roof. It's a special stage.

21:40But when you go into the garden, you look up, you see the banners that are hanging, the best hockey players to the Rangers, the best NBA players to the Knicks, and the titles those teams have won. And tonight, a banner, 53 years in the waiting, goes up that will be there as long as the building is there and will travel to wherever the next garden is. So it's really a special night to be there and experience a basketball title in a basketball-loving city like New York. What do you think, though, about the defending champs, the Knicks, going up against the Philadelphia 76ers with LeBron now on the ticket, right?

22:13He took kind of this, like, smaller contract because he wants to take the win at the end of the day. I mean, how loud do you think it's going to get tonight? Well, it'll be great. Anytime you have the championship moment happening for a team, there's extra energy and excitement in the building. But now you throw in Philadelphia, a rival of New York in every sport, And LeBron James may be as great a player as the sport has ever seen, playing an unprecedented 24th season. Nobody's played this many seasons of professional basketball. LeBron coming in with a Philadelphia team that is the co-favorite, according to the folks who set the betting lines, the co-favorite with the Knicks in the Eastern Conference.

22:51So right away, we're jumping into the deep end of the pool here. So that just adds to it. And any time LeBron or any all-time great plays in Madison Square Garden, there's an extra energy and a buzz. And that's not me saying it. That's LeBron and all those other greats saying playing in the garden is just different. So LeBron was added to the roster for the 76ers. The Celtics got some big players. The Heat got some big players as well. What do you make of this Eastern Conference this year? Well, you made the point. LeBron took a two-year,$8 million contract. Which is pennies for LeBron. And it's pennies for anybody in the NBA.

23:23I'm not concerned about the meals they'll be able to eat at home. I think they'll still be able to provide food and travel for the family. I think he's going to be just fine. I think they're okay. But that allowed them to keep other big pieces together on a team that's very talented. They added Jalen Brown, who was with the Boston Celtics, a former MVP of the NBA Finals. So immediately Philadelphia becomes a loaded team. The question is, what does Boston look like? A team that's been terrific in the East. One piece, Jalen Brown's in Philadelphia. Sophia Jason Tatum is back a full year plus removed from his Achilles surgery.

23:56Paul George, another veteran, has been a terrific NBA player, joins him. I think Boston will be good. You mentioned Miami will be good. Detroit had the most wins in the East last year. They come back mostly as constituted. Toronto added a player in Kawhi Leonard who's very good. So what I'm saying, beyond all the detail, is the East is much better, much better than it was a year ago. And it will be harder for the Knicks to repeat. And you put that under the umbrella of no NBA team is repeated as champion in eight consecutive years. That's never been said before in the NBA. But how good are the Knicks looking right now?

24:29I mean, can they defend their team? Of course they can. They have every key player back. But one, when you win a championship, you play longer than every other team except the other team in the finals. Sure, yeah. There's a little more wear and tear. And it's only human nature. If I come in and tell you over and over, yes, the show was so good. That show was so good. Like, that hunger changes. And in New York, where there are 7 million people saying, hey, I remember when. They want to live in the past. You now have to push the past in the past and think about the future. Because that championship was great, but it doesn't win you one game in the 2026-27 season.

25:01What are your expectations for the Western Conference? Western Conference was the best conference. It will still be the better conference because I think the teams at the top of the West are better than the teams at the top of the East. Last year, we had on NBC the Western Conference Finals, San Antonio Spurs against Oklahoma City. A great seven-game series. Their first game of the regular season follows the Knicks game on NBC and Peacock tonight. And we are kind of framing it as it's game eight of a series that went seven games and was terrific. They both have superior young talent. Shea Gildas-Alexander is the back-to-back MVP, plays for Oklahoma City.

25:36Victor Wembanyama is the next thing. He's seven foot plus. He dribbles like a guard, shoots three pointers. And he learned about leadership and playing on the biggest stage during the finals. While everybody celebrates the Knicks title, let's remember, San Antonio had double-digit leads in all five of the finals games. Yeah. And they had the lead with less than three minutes in every one of those games. So they were this close. I tell people San Antonio last year was talented enough to win the finals. They just weren't mature enough. They just couldn't get that last little bit of championship moment DNA.

26:11As players or time on the court? Both. Extremely young core. Their youngest players are 23, 22, and 21. Can we do a quick lightning round here? Sure. Okay. Matchup that you're excited for? I'm going to say that San Antonio, Oklahoma City. That's the game. If you gave me one series to watch all year, every matchup, it would be that one. Dark Horse team. Hmm. I've thought about this a couple of times. Houston Rockets. Okay. Houston Rockets were a good team with a future Hall of Famer in Kevin Durant. Alperin Schengen's another good player. They get their point guard back this year. He was out all of last year with a torn ACL.

26:42I think people are sleeping on them a bit. Wouldn't sleep on them too much. Rookie to watch. Rookie to watch for me, it's Cam Boozer. His dad, Carlos Boozer, played in the NBA for many years. He played at Duke one year, averaged over 20 points, over 10 rebounds a game. Mature, grew up around the game, knows how to play it. He's in Memphis. They won't win a lot of games, but I think he's going to be an exciting rookie to watch in what should be a good rookie class, which followed a good rookie class led by Cooper Flagg and Khan Knipple a year ago. The NBA has a bunch of young, good stars coming in right now.

27:14Prediction for this season's MVP. I would say Victor Wemben-Yaman Sennett would be the MVP of the league. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. Good, I'm glad we think alike. By the way, I'm glad you do your job and I do mine because I would never be able to make any of those predictions. Did I? Mike Tirico, thank you. Great to be with you, thanks. You too, thanks. All right, that is going to do it for us. Here's The Scoop from NBC News. I'm Yasmin Vestugin. We'll be back tomorrow with whatever the day may bring. And if you like what you heard, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. And you can also subscribe to our daily newsletter, The Inside Scoop.

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