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1:15I'm Zoe Hardman. And I'm Georgia Dayton. And this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits. With five kids between G and I, we have seen a lot.

1:25Georgia Dayton: We really have. Each week, we'll be joined by some famous faces and experts and we'll chat about the brands and products that have saved us along the way. In short, we're the parenting podcast for you. Before we get started, hit subscribe or follow so you're the first to know when each episode lands. And they're on Tuesdays and Fridays. And it really helps if you leave a rating and a review. You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mamas. But for now, George, should we get into it? Happy Friday. Happy Friday. Oh, what a week we've had with the heat. I know. Yeah. I mean, it's been amazing.

1:59Georgia Dayton: But equally, I have phoned an air conditioning engineer to see if we can get some aircon installed. Because I think it's becoming more of a necessity. Yeah. We're going to get much, much, much hotter summers. It's going to happen. In fact, somebody said something to me the other day, which was really scary, was that there will become parts of the planet, obviously, that we currently inhabit, that we won't be able to in, say, five years' time because the summers are going to be getting hotter and hotter and hotter. Oh, my gosh. So people will naturally migrate into the other areas. But, I mean, I think I'm right in thinking that we really nearly hit 40 degrees this week.

2:34Georgia Dayton: Wow. That is mental. So it's hot, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it really is. I've loved it, but the kids are suffering, and I'm sure everybody listening to this is going to feel that way. Imagine being in a classroom all day long and the poor teachers as well. I know. Gigi's been able to wear her own clothes all week. Really? Yeah, they sent out a message on Sunday night saying that they're allowed to wear their own clothes all week, which cracks me up because Axel has to wear a long sleeve shirt, long trousers, a tie, a blazer, a cap. And he was like, I'm the one who should be able to wear my own clothes.

3:05He has to wear long trousers in this heat? No, man, that's not right.

3:08Georgia Dayton: They're not allowed to wear shorts. They're not allowed to wear shorts. Oh, come on. I know, I know. It's really brutal. And he's definitely red faced. but um Gigi's flicking him flicking him the bird going haha she's literally like haha sucker um yeah I know it's it's we're not set up for it are we we're not set up for the cold we're not set up for the heat we're um yeah we just fall apart nice cold beers at the ready um listen we need to get into today's um podcast because we thought what we do is is do a roundup of the most talked about kind of questions the most asked questions that we'd kind of bunch into one podcast bringing you that today these are things that have come up in our dms discussions that we've had you know on our instagram and on the podcast as well we kind of collated them all together and then we thought we'd go through them today so george do you want to kick us off yeah um i mean we have this a lot but someone has written in to say what do you find the hardest about the stage of parenting you're in right now um well for me it's it's to do with the lack of listening and and the desire to do anything that I ask as in you know mainly from Kit because Luna literally does she's so sweet and she just is out to please which obviously brings other dynamics because she feels that if you know if she kind of maybe argues with anything she's kind of destroyed me and I'm like you know you're allowed to have an opinion on things you don't you can always you can push back that's fine you don't always have to be the good girl but with kit i find this kind of like he the other day he said to me i don't want to do anything that you asked me to do and i said well i thanks for the honesty and i really rate the fact that you've had the balls to come out and say that and i said what sort of thing is he goes all the big things i said like what and he goes teeth shoes going to bed and uh eating eating food and i was like you don't want to eat food he goes no no i don't want to eat the food that you cook for me i just thought brilliant little shit like he's basically just going everything they're not even that big things are they no he basically just doesn't want to be told what to do by you right okay I think okay I'm leaving that's it I'm tapping out so I find that really hard what about you George um I think at the moment it is the sibling dynamic I think Axel is entering that stage where I mean like all the kids at school talking about secondary schools they're going to and you know they're kind of top of the school and it's something changes there like I don't know what it is but as they start to realize that they're not in primary school forever then they sort of change a bit and he's always been really nice to Gigi like he she's always been the one who's mean to him and he's always been lovely to her and that has switched he always winds her up he's always wanting to wind her up she's great you know and it's difficult because he's like you always take Gigi's side and I'm and I hear what he's saying because I do um but I am like I just don't expect this from you you know like I don't know why you're doing it like you're old enough to not do this I don't understand so I'm finding that hard with the whole well she's your favorite um while also maintaining like a level of discipline like without you know I think like yeah that's the bit that I'm at the moment I find you feel like you're a bit out of control with Axel at the moment.

6:40Georgia Dayton: Yeah I think there is a shift that's you know that's happened where he's definitely he's always been such a good boy like to the point where you've been like come on mate lighten up a bit and now he's you know he's kind of pushing the boundaries like slightly and it's just it's more the winding up that's the bit that I'm like oh just stop it like actually just stop bit but I guess I don't know it's like it's almost like he behaves how he does with his friends like where they all wind each other up and banter but with Gigi who is not old enough to understand that he's winding her up that sort of thing yeah I get it sibling dynamics are infuriating and beautiful at the same time I mean sometimes Luna and Kit fight so much that I say to them right that's it I'm leaving yeah and sometimes I go and sit on the back doorstep and just leave them to it because I just think I cannot referee your arguing any longer I don't want to do it I say to them I'm like do you think this is fun for me I think some of it is really healthy and actually I say to a lot of other people the the more you dive into it and try and stop them from doing it like oh guys why can't you two just get on I hated my sister growing up she hated me I mean we would fight and argue all the time it's very natural and very normal I think times when I intervene or when it gets physical like the other night I came into Luna's room and she was standing on his arm and had she put all of her weight on it there could have been a serious issue with this like it was it was bent backwards and I thought oh you could break his arm Luna I was like get off his arm so I do try and intervene if there's like physical physical force being used but a lot of the time I'm just like they have to live together all the time they're at school together they must be pretty pissed off with being in each other's company constantly yeah no I get it as well and you they're always I guess siblings are always gonna fight aren't they but you know it's just like not now just not now just do it like when we're not having to do something else um yeah just just stop it um what about this one george it's this is quite a big one what's the biggest lesson your children have taught you oh my gosh i wasn't prepared for that um what is the biggest lesson come on george you'll have to dig deep for this one i know i'm just really really trying to think what they should I go first yeah you go first the biggest lesson my kids have taught me is um saying sorry oh yeah and I love that part of parenting when I know that I've got it wrong because let's be honest parenting is a snapshot like you might hear a comment from one of them or you might see them not do something and you might have missed the preamble or you might have misunderstood the situation and you might have overreacted and actually my most favorite part of that is going do you know what I've got that wrong and I'm really sorry and Doza doesn't necessarily agree with that because he's like we should always just be you know not necessarily the disciplinarians but you know we're not their friends we're not we're not there to kind of get it right all the time but actually if I've got it wrong I really want them to see that I can say sorry and at first I don't think I've ever been that good at it like I've always kind of got quite defensive and sort of maybe tried to you know with with maybe relationships or friendships to be like oh well you know I didn't mean that or you know that wasn't my intention it's like no no I've got that wrong so I apologize yeah I really like it I really like that we we do that actually we we apologize to the kids and I have seen like James's dad for you know particularly he looks at us like Like, why are you apologizing to the kids?

10:18Georgia Dayton: Like, you're a grown-up. But I really agree. Like, you have to do that because they need to learn to apologize. It's that whole lead by example thing, isn't it? Like, if you're not doing it, why would they do it? Yeah. I think, thinking about it, actually, it's not, well, I guess it's not dissimilar, but I guess they've taught me that it's okay to fail at things. Yeah. And I think that's really, you know, when, as a parent, again, you want to put on that united front of you know we're you know we do our best and we you know we achieve and we do all of this kind of stuff but actually one of the biggest lessons that they've taught me is to be really like okay to fail and to give things a go um is something we've been working on with Axel like for a long time that I think I don't know if it's a boy thing or if it's just like a competitive person thing where they almost can shy away from situations where they don't think that they are gonna do well or you know or like win or whatever and we've really been doing a lot on actually give it a go you're gonna fail at anything you don't give a go anyway so you might as well even if you've got one percent chance you might as well just go for it do it yeah and be comfortable with like not doing well or failing and it's fine um so I think yeah definitely we've been having a lot of conversations around that recently yeah enough so yeah I'd say it was that.

11:45Also, I really love showing them that I cry sometimes and that I feel sad sometimes. And I remember seeing my dad cry for the first time ever when I was 14. And my dad had a really, really rough upbringing, like really tough, like horrible for him. And he never, ever, ever, he must have been, I was talking to my mum about this the other day. It must have been really hard to him sorry hard for him but he never showed it and you know he was left when he was a baby and his parents pissed off to china and didn't come back for him he the next door neighbor brought him up he was in a care home like it was really shit for him oh my gosh i know and seeing him cry at that age i remember thinking gosh he must have been sad but he never ever ever showed it and i thought i want to be able to show my kids that i'm not a robot that actually i do feel things and it's okay if you're going to laugh you're going to cry you know if you're going to be happy you're going to feel sad it's it's all of the emotions that you can pull out of the box I really want them to learn that it's okay to show however you're feeling show it yeah because

12:51Georgia Dayton: half the time when you're feeling a certain way if you know that it's normal to feel like that it relieves whatever that feeling is yeah it makes it so much more comfortable and so much easier I think sometimes the hardest thing is when you feel like you're alone in that feeling and no one else feels like that so yeah I agree with you yeah I mean my kids don't see me cry that's because I don't but you know maybe Georgia 2027 might though we're getting there maybe who knows I did once we'll be right back after this short break

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14:44Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we?

14:47Georgia Dayton: What's your current skincare routine, realistically? oh oh i've got a new um cleanser hot oil cleanser that i'm loving it's so i do um hot oil cleansing in the evening and i'm loving and it's really really good price point as well the inky list oh yeah i got it on amazon it's like their oak cleanser and it's absolutely brilliant i've got to be honest with you it it's obviously elemis is my favorite but it's you know you're talking 55 quid for a pot or 45 quid for a pot of it and that is out of budget um so this one i think is like 12.99 from amazon i'm gonna we'll do a link for it so i hot oil cleanse in the in the evening and then i use my abagi which i get um oh yeah from the dermatologist for my melasma then i'll use a really great serum and then i use medicate which is probably the most expensive thing that i spend my money on it is um like an overnight cream but it's it's really good for targeting wrinkles it's got active ingredients in it and I really see um results with it so that's pretty and then in the morning it's a serum and an SPF nice what about you um mine well I really stripped mine back because I used to use lots of different stuff but when I got periaryl dermatitis I really stripped it back and actually my skin's quite good at the moment so I'm just kind of trying to like keep it like that so now all I do in the morning I just use depends sometimes I'll just wash my faced with water in the morning depending if it's been hot at night if it hasn't been then I don't I use an oil and I've been using the Medicaid um oil I think it's about 35 pounds but it lasts forever um and then I will just put on either the Beauty Pie hyaluronic acid serum in the morning and then the even the Japanese fusion from Beauty Pie moisturizer or I have been using a Medicaid moisturizer and it's called like total moisture it's like their basic one the total daily one so do that in the morning and then in the evening it really depends but yeah the same cleanser or I sometimes use the elemis hot oil one yeah and then I'll just put a moisturizer on I'm not using any active serum at the moment okay also that's more because it's sunny as well and I think yeah I definitely have to be more careful um when it's you know when it's really sunny that I'm not using anything like retinol or whatever because with the best intentions I'm not wearing a hat all the time you know like I'm not going on the school run all of those things you just forget and I really noticed I started getting like some sun damage so I was like right I need to strip this all back so yeah mine's really like paired back at the moment um and I'll start introducing seen some other things in like probably the end of the summer also if if um because of some of the some of the price points for some of the skincare i find eye wateringly expensive but if you do if you do your research like some of the korean skincare is you know much more um yeah better better budget for people and also as i said like the inky list you've got the ordinary you've got beauty pie there are certain things that you can buy that are cheaper that essentially do exactly the same thing so yeah i think don't be don't be frightened of that because i mean some of them you're looking it's like 200 quid face cream it's like no i'm not doing that no way i can't afford it no and also i would rather put my money right into having profilo every six months yeah which is expensive but it's gonna it gets in deeper than any like hyaluronic acid serum will whether that serum is 200 quid or 20 pounds it's gonna do more than that so i might as well use like i use the Beauty Pie Hyaluronic Acid Serum because it's really reasonably priced and I'll have Profilo.

18:37Georgia Dayton: Whereas I wouldn't do a, you know, really high end La Prairie serum and also Profilo because I can afford that. So I think it's just about, you know, your personal preference and your skin, your skin type. Yeah. What about this one? How do you handle mum guilt and does it ever really go away? That one comes up so much. yeah I do you know what I never used to buy into mum guilt at all I really didn't I genuinely really didn't I'd actually say as the kids have got older I feel it more um and it's more to do with missing things so for instance Sunday morning I forgot I hadn't looked on that do you have this respond app for kids fixtures and stuff we have pitch era right it's probably the same thing it's so confusing but I don't see when he's supposed to have a match or whatever so Sunday morning Father's Day they messaged to say oh is Axel playing um like like are you going to be there with Gigi and I was like oh I didn't even know there's a match cricket cricket are you going to be there like I'm with you know with Gigi I don't know where to bring my son and I was like oh god I totally missed it so then I quickly told him like you've got cricket just get ready they're going to pick you up because I'm not ready I'm hosting later I've got things to do and then anyway transpired later he was really upset because James and I missed him back right and it is things like that or actually this weekend when this broadcast goes out we'll know whether I've done it or not I'm supposed to be going to Marbella with some of the mums from school oh my god you have to go yeah I don't know I'm really not sure so we'll see but Sunday Gigi's got a dance competition in like a big theater in Essex and I will definitely be able to get to the dance show because I could fly back on like lunchtime on Sunday but I know what she's like and she'll want me there in the morning to do her hair and get her costumes ready and drop her off You know, and it's those things that I don't know.

20:51Georgia Dayton: I don't know if that's a boundary for me that I don't miss. You know, like I just think, are they the moments that you can't miss? Because it's not work. It's not a work commitment. It's a, I don't know. So that's where I am on mum guilt. It is creeping in more as they get older. I completely agree with you, actually. Yeah. I think we're really aligned on this. And actually, I can't sit here and tell you what, because if you chose to go away and miss one of her dance competitions, she will be okay. She won't remember that forever. It's a case of, you know, it's really, really personal. Some people are going to listen to this and go, go away, live your best life.

21:31You're there every single weekend. You never miss a fixture. You never miss a competition, George. I know what a committed mom you are. And if you feel like you're heading, you know, towards burnout or you don't want to miss this because you need to go and have some fucking fun and let your hair down, and you should go and do it. That's your choice. But definitely don't feel that it's because you've ever let your kids down because you haven't. You're amazing. So we will either see on Instagram whether she's sicking a pina colada at my bear or not. I don't know how I feel about mum guilt now. I really have tried the last six months to be so present with them.

22:07Like genuinely, almost to the detriment of I don't really go and see my friends any longer. like I'll go away and have a weekend in Ibiza which I which I've definitely done but like in the evenings and stuff I don't book in any dinners I don't go to the cinema Dusser and I haven't been on a date this year this year and we're at the end of June nearly and that's really impacted our relationship so actually I think um I've tried so because I felt like I missed quite a lot um with work and stuff in the in the past but I I think maybe a bit more balanced and I definitely feel guilty if I miss stuff.

22:43And that's always been the way with me.

22:46Georgia Dayton: Yeah. I mean, I flip between it's going so fast. This is only a phase. It's better just to be around and be at everything to this is our first time living as well. And we should be able to do I don't know. I don't know. Somebody said to me the other day, I don't even know if it was you or not, who's like, you are not just a mother, you are Zoe and you deserve to go live your life as well and it can't just be work and parenting it can't it can't it can't I won't come out of that so we've got to we've got to have a balance we'll be right back after this short break

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24:11Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we?

24:14Georgia Dayton: How do I stop comparing myself to other mums? Oh my God, this is so interesting. So I don't necessarily compare myself to other mums, but I definitely compared myself to other presenters for a very long time. And I think that is indicative of our industry and I think for my 20s and maybe early 30s I would just spend my life thinking oh my god why has that person got that I felt so shit about myself if I missed out on a job I was constantly thinking what have they got that I don't have and comparison is the thief of joy yeah and I really made an effort to just that took a big piece of work and quite a lot of therapy and I realized it wasn't about anybody else it was all about myself and how I felt about me truly felt about me I don't experience that any longer because I'm actually there to celebrate others rather than think oh why are they doing that and I'm not doing it but I guess with mums nothing you see on Instagram and nothing really that you see especially between like a group of competitive mums in my eyes is real yeah I think it's quite a lot of fugazi I think you get a snapshot of somebody's life that looks perfect and in reality people haven't had a shower they're four days without washing their hair they're all losing their shits at home and actually we should find solace in that but wouldn't it be amazing if we could be more honest George yeah I really think so and I think you don't always get someone's true picture I think we've touched on it as well before like you know you might look at a mum you know the nursery run the school drop off and think oh my god like you know she looks like she's got this amazing life she looks great you know on the school run in the morning like oh wow but you don't know what the setup is at home you don't know what you know she's going through or what extra help there is behind all of that and I think it's so hard because I do think it's like human nature like to compare um yourself to other people like I think it just is whatever area that is but I do think you just have to really just focus on yourself and like what is it that what is it that's coming up when you compare yourself is it that oh my gosh that you know that mum is at every sports event and I'm not it is that because you feel bad that you know what is it because I think it's I think you've just got to look at yourself and making yourself as happy as you can to try and block out um you know the comparison yeah um and yeah and i just like exactly what you says though like so much of it is smoke and mirrors it is isn't it yes absolutely what about one purchase that was worth every penny oh that's quite interesting that is really interesting good i've got quite a few things in my life that are really boring but you know i'm like no that that was worth it if you say that fucking cock yeah exactly I knew you're gonna say that a fucking cooker yep I would say that was a hundred percent worth the investment you still use it I use it every day do you okay all right I remember when you got it like five years ago and I took the piss out of you day yeah exactly and it is all the boring things like you know vacuum cleaner that was really expensive and you're like oh god that's so annoying but I use it every day and it's worth you know like there are lots of things like that what's yours oh god um one thing be okay all right and it's it's it's very superficial but i do love it it's my they used to be called jane and tash and they've rebranded and they're called de valier and it gets me every time hang on let me look but i've invested in the most beautiful de savary leather jacket i got it four years ago it's like butter it cost me 500 quid but I wear it all the time and cost per wear I've smashed it out the park and I'm still wearing it four and a half years later there we go so yeah sometimes you've got to save up and spend the money yeah little luxuries are what it's all about and what's a family tradition that's become unexpectedly important to you do you know what it's only happened once but it's going to now be a tradition that I will do with Kit because last night and I can't tell you how much this has helped him and I and I know it's only been 24 hours but we went for a walk with Murphy at seven o 'clock he was in his pajama bottoms and his cricket top um we'd been on the sofa for a couple of hours just trying to chill and I said I'm gonna walk Murphy and he went and the rest of the family went okay bye and Kit went I'm coming with you and oh I want to cry we walked for an hour just the two of us and we talked and talked and talked and talked George and like he shared stuff that's going on at school we talked about how many mosquitoes there were in the world we talked about the most dangerous animal and I just at the end of it he said to me mommy can we do this every single week just the two of us and I was like, yes, please.

29:31I want, and he woke up this morning, a different child. He went to bed without any issues. He woke up this morning really happy. And he was like, mommy, are you okay? You're the best mommy in the world. I just, I don't know. It's given us something.

29:45Georgia Dayton: Oh yeah. No. And I think that it's those simple things actually that can make, yeah, make such a difference. We used to do, like Axel and I used to go for a run together. We haven't been recently because of schedules, but that was always really good. But I think ours is like a family tradition that's become really important. It's actually probably similar to yours is going out for a walk, like all together at least once a week. That's all it is. It's not like every day or, you know, it's not. It's just making time. The kids are usually on their bikes. James and I, you know, walk behind with the dog.

30:20Georgia Dayton: Yeah. And it's actually, it's just lovely. It's so lovely, George. Yeah, that would be ours for sure. And I think as well, like eating breakfast outside. Oh God, I love it. We love doing that as well. Like now it's sunny, but that's a really nice thing to do, having breakfast together in the morning rather than it being a huge rush. Because, you know, let's face it, sometimes we're all up at six. So we've got plenty of time to do it, but somehow like everyone just does their own thing. So if we are all up, we happen to all be up together at the same time, we'll do that now. Do you know what? I'm going to do that tomorrow morning.

30:56I'm going to have breakfast outside with the kids.

30:58Georgia Dayton: It's fun. It's really nice. Even if it's 20 minutes, it's great. Love that. What is the last thing that made you laugh? Oh, my God. No, I actually really know. It was yesterday, right? And James goes through little phases where he's particularly hard on everybody. And we all kind of now just know that he's in some funny little, I don't know, phase where everything's winding him up. and he said to the kids go on cry into your croissants hey and like it was meant to be a really like serious moment because they were bickering and I just couldn't stop laughing that's hilarious couldn't stop laughing and it was just one of those like oh my god this is just all go on cry into your croissants oh god and that they're the moments that you remember forever Yes.

31:50Georgia Dayton: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when someone's trying to be the disciplinarian and tell someone off and it's ridiculous. Oh my God, it was so funny. Brilliant. Yeah, it was. It was all ridiculous anyway. So yeah, that was the last time that I properly laughed. We were listening to the Gossip Mongers podcast this morning in the car and we revisited a story about a boy called Stick Dick Paul who jumped into a lake. And when he jumped into a lake, he ended up jumping on a giant stick that went off his arse. Oh, shut up. we cried kit lost his shit in the back of the car i've never he had like tears streaming down his face everybody has to listen to this podcast i'm going to put it on instagram because maybe don't listen with your kids because there were some parts of it that were quite rude but i don't really care about stuff like that because it was just quite funny but yeah um and then the boys that were carrying him out of the lake and down the road it was like three miles they then dropped him and the stick went further up his bum so you can imagine how funny that was for all of us yeah That's brilliant.

32:48Georgia Dayton: My God. Note to self, kids, don't jump into a lake without checking. There are sticks on the ground. Yeah, Jesus. Jesus, God. Should we finish on that one or should we do one more? Let's finish. Let's finish. Let's finish with stick, dick, Paul. Stick, dick, Paul. I didn't know that was going to happen on this episode. Thank you so much for listening to today's podcast and for sending in those questions over the last, God, I don't know, probably 12 months. It's been an absolute treat to be chatting to you guys today. As always, we love doing these podcasts for you. So thank you. And we'd love you to rate, review, subscribe and please give the podcast a follow.

33:24Georgia Dayton: Yeah, and if you've got any feedback on this episode, but also topics you'd like us to cover in these Friday Q &As, because we're aware, you know, we've moved away from sleep and weaning that we used to do quite frequently. What are the things that are coming up in your house now that we could have someone on to talk about? Please drop any suggestions to us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mamas and we'll be back on Tuesday.

33:57It takes the hits, runs the miles, rebuilds while you sleep. It's felt every fall, every dance floor, every belly laugh. And in return, it asks for nothing. It just keeps going. I'm Ellie Taylor and this is Back Your Body, the podcast from Holland and Barrett that's all about the most loyal relationship you'll ever have. The one you have with your body. From scars to self-care, the bits you love and the bits you've learned to love, we're talking to people about the bodies they live in, how they've pushed them, neglected them, rebuilt them, or finally learned to listen to them. It's time to back your body the way it's always back to you.

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