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I'm Zoe Hardman and I'm Georgia Dayton and this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits with five kids between G and I we have seen a lot we really have each week we'll be joined by some famous faces and experts and we'll chat about the brands and products that have saved us along the way in short we're the parenting podcast for you before we get started hit subscribe or follow so you're the first to know when each episode lands and they're on Tuesdays and Fridays and it really helps if you leave a rating and a review you can also find us on Instagram we're on at made by mummers but for now George should we get into it so as it's Friday um we obviously do our Q &A's on a Friday and we haven't had a proper catch up for a while George and I thought we would answer your questions now these are like no topic off the table type conversations so we were like ask away and also we've got this anonymous tab where people can leave anonymous messages and some of those are brilliant yeah I mean yeah wowzer howza summer holidays do you book holiday clubs let the kids run feral when working from home or a bit of both a bit of both for me I booked them into this really great camp at one of the private schools near here but it was£85 for the day so Luna's mate was doing it and I was like yeah fine no problem she was so excited when I went on to book it I was like holy shit balls 85 quid it's mental try and put two of them in there you don't put in working no it's absolutely mental yeah we've got a similar camp near here and I remember when the kids were young loads of the parents used to send their kids to it and now like you know five six years in and multiple children like no one's doing it everyone's like absolutely not I'm the same though I do like I where my office is in the garden which is weird there's like um windows all around so in the summer holidays it's actually quite a good place to be because I can sit and work and then they're playing in the garden and I can keep my eye on them and I don't know if you find this but I often find that if we invite friends over it's so much easier because they just crack on and play um but yeah I will I mean for six weeks we actually haven't got any plans this summer yet I don't know what we're going to do but um if we're here for six weeks then I'll definitely have to put them into some sort of camp I don't know what that'll be but I agree you can't two kids three kids four kids in all day camps all summer is extortionate no I I do like I like the camps that are around 25 pounds yeah those are my favorite type of camps it's easy with kit because we put him into football and there's one there's one literally five minutes where he actually goes to school so kit does that and he loves doing it and he always asks to do it luna's got a little um actually footballers which is brilliant it's based in surrey but they do um girls football all over surrey so you should definitely check them out but we play down at walton so she wants to do that this summer she wants to get she's loving her football and then like you said i'll just arrange play dates but yeah i think the key and i think the thing we've always said with this is you've got to be organized yeah i am terrible at it um i've got a mate who's basically sends me her summer planner um she's what she's one of those moms i need that i'm gonna send it to you and so she just puts everything in and and if everything's everything move as things move around she can move it it's all digital and then they get it printed stuck on the fridge so everyone knows what they're doing i don't know if i'll do that but at least i'll have an idea in my mind of what's going on yeah it is all of the well-priced camps always sell out that's what i'm so yeah um oh charlie says this is a big one whether or not to have a third currently my two are eight and five and i love my job um financially more stable independence identity etc worried i won't cope mentally how many people have been staring down that barrel going i love my life i've got two amazing children yeah you know i've got a great job i'm financially sorted but there's that tiny little niggle inside of me that thinks I'm not finished yeah and you know what normally and always I used to say you never regret having another child you'd only regret not yeah but but but but having spoken to some people recently who have gone on to have three four children and they are in the thick of it right now you know where they've got young kids under four you know multiples and they say don't don't do it don't like I've I've had so many conversations with people recently like absolutely don't don't rock the boat I really do think you know you can have your finances sorted you can have help around you can have all of these things but I really would take yourself back to those early days and think can I do that again can I actually cope and also the impact it has on your your older children as well um so I don't I do think you will never fully ever regret having another child but you might regret it for a period of time and you might not come out alive if we're honest like if we're being honest there there will be times probably where you're like oh my god what the hell but if you're prepared for that then yeah yeah it's such a personal decision and when George and I cannot sit here and say yes we think you should have one or no we think you shouldn't have one I definitely weighed up the pros and the cons very heavily and I thought I love the fact that we've got three you know with Isla coming and going from the house imagine chucking a fourth into the mix and I just I knew that I wasn't um that I didn't have the resilience for it I was too tired by that point I had had 11 years of cumulative tiredness at that point yeah or like maybe when I was thinking about it it would have been maybe six or something but I I think you have to really really look at financially I think is a big thing you know can you afford to have another child you know people say oh it shouldn't be about money but I really do think it comes down to that in the at the end of the day and like Georgia said if you love your life and you've got these two incredible children what yeah what you know what when we were on holiday James looked at me quite a few times and he was like do you think we should have another one do you think we should have a georgia you in a bikini i was like no i i don't think we should have another one and he's like oh but and oh but and you're looking back at photos of like you know when the kids were really young and i get it like that can give you that like heartstrings oh my god yeah i want it but like you just said so like financially going back to paying nursery fees and like just all of those extra things um yeah not for me at the moment at the moment well no unless like i i don't know come into i win the euro millions on whatever day it is and then i can hire full-time everythings then yeah i would you'll see me having a third child but i love how this has turned from charlie to me bullying georgia into having a third now i do think you should have one I'm just throwing it out there um I think it would be so it'd be so great for the business great Charlie if you want to come on board may my mum is and have a third child that actually could work really well so good um oh my god I'd love to hear your experience being an only child I just have one little girl and feel so guilty we've tried about this quite a lot on various episodes of the podcast and we've had Georgia Jones talking about having one child and her you know that she feels absolutely secure with that and we've had other people say that they feel guilty and as an only child I was really happy and I still am I think the only the only thing now I would say is if I was single I would feel a lot of responsibility I think but I do have James and also like I'm close to my cousins and stuff like that that's the only thing but growing up as an only child I loved it I absolutely loved it Georgia is completely self-sufficient she is the least neediest she is the most sorted you know you are incredibly um what's the word I guess kind of resilient and and and Georgia's just really happy being by herself like I think that that only child you know growing up in an in a one child house that that really worked for you that gave you all of your strengths but also you know you're very sociable as well because you spent so much time with your cousins and all your friends and stuff and you've got that with your kids I just think there's so so much weirdness around having just one child yeah why not why do why do we have to have two or three or four why can't we just have one it's quite sensible but It's not, I think it's not the same as it was like 50, 60 years ago where they'll, you know, they maybe only children didn't socialize as much.

10:51Georgia Dayton: They, you know, it's not, it wasn't like that for me. I think it's more important. Definitely. If you're an only child, you have an only child for them to have social interactions outside of school. So like being part of a club or, you know, that sort of thing. I do think that is important. And at the weekends and stuff, doing things, million percent. but um no I loved it so please don't feel guilty at all um love hearing Zoe's mum on the pod would love to hear from Georgia's mum oh yeah Georgia's mum's an absolute legend she would never would she never do it no mate that podcast that I did with my mum I know she lots of messages would be like I didn't realize she was so posh posh yeah I was gonna My mum is the poshest person you will ever meet in your life.

11:38But also what I found fascinating, and I really tried hard, because actually lots of you listening identified this as well, I found quite a lot of it quite triggering because I felt, I thought lots of what she was saying was brilliant and really great, solid advice. And, you know, she's been around the block. She's 78. She's very worldly. She's very inspiring. She's the reason that I'm doing what I'm doing today because she gave me this, like, proper determination to never give up. at the same time she finds it very difficult to hold any of the stuff that could have potentially caused me pain and so when I was trying to tap into it and trying to say like could we have a discussion around band she was like well what do you mean and like biggest regret why don't have any you were just an experiment you know those sorts of flippant remarks I was like you know um I was like think about being a psychologist think about being a psychologist like what would they say yeah and she just couldn't get there and so that's that's the level of depth that I don't really get from her or at least retrospectively she doesn't have any feelings of like maybe I could have done that better so that's quite annoying annoying someone here has put Zari how stressful was it having your mum on fuck me was it stressful yeah it really that's interesting it really was stressful because I I knew I wanted to kind of grill her a bit and I knew I wanted to push her on stuff I didn't want to I didn't want to make her feel crap but I also wanted to feel some honesty from her and she struggles in that space so it was stressful do you think it's a generation thing yeah 100 yeah I was gonna say like yeah I feel like my dad is in his 70s and

13:11Georgia Dayton: he's probably more like that whereas my mom is actually slight well she's like 60 early 60s and she's more like I don't know more open about things that you know she didn't know or could have done on I don't know yeah I do wonder it's more of a yeah that's the way that they were all raised absolutely absolutely and they're they're you know the baby boomers are inherently quite a selfish bunch for me anyway no they are I was gonna say how it is um yeah I thought also what was funny and what I was really panicking about was people like sending in questions going how do you feel about Zoe talking about you so openly on the podcast like how have you stopped commenting on people's weight now obviously I've obviously said that oh my god I forgot I didn't see any of these questions oh my god yeah I forget actually what we talk about so when I said to her you know how do you feel about and she was like well I don't really know because I don't listen I'm like of course you don't like you know it was in it was this I thought I was like got away with it thank goodness thank goodness at least we know that now let's get George's on we need to petition for George's mom to come on she absolutely what about what about your dad he would but I feel like he'd be the same so we wouldn't get anything new okay fine we've stopped now that's it no more relatives on the board no no more relatives um how do you get out of a funk i can't start exercising even though i know i need to

14:40Georgia Dayton: well it's easy to get into a funk for sure um you're in a funk is that what you're saying i haven't trained for did my first session back yesterday for three weeks that was me today right I hadn't well I've been exercising on holiday um but yeah I think I really think you can make it into such a big deal and I think it's baby steps when you're in a funk I think you can't go all in hard straight away being putting all this pressure on yourself to like do hours and hours of exercise run like you know 10ks it's just not going to happen I think you've got to think about something that's just going to get you moving or feeling better, whatever that is.

15:26Georgia Dayton: Like I know making sure I go for a walk outside always makes me feel better. And so if I can commit to doing that, then that brings me up a bit and gets me into the routine. um but I did I just think it's so hard when you've got out of a routine of doing something and you're in that like just icky phase to imagine how you did it before and like how did you ever find the time or the motivation it's yeah it's difficult yeah yeah totally I echo everything that Georgia said I think also um what I did yesterday was set myself a target of just staying in the room which is so unlike me because normally I'd go in there and be like right let's kill it I want a pb on that I want to do more squats I want to do more warbles yesterday I just thought if I can stay in the room and get through the session that's a win even though I didn't feel like I had very much energy I didn't really feel like I I mean I'm so I feel very unfit at the moment and tired and a bit lethargic and stuff so it was just brilliant to just get and when I came out I was like I've done it I've stayed in the room I wasn't looking at any of my stats I was just like I did it so like Georgia said I think just try and find something that's that you that you realistically can get done and don't set yourself up for failure and remember habit takes 28 days to form so if you can get yourself into a new habit you've got yourself into a new funk you can get yourself out of the funk and into a new positive habit just keep thinking about that mindset and remember like the the brain feels what we tell it to so if you're saying I'm never going to be able to get through this you know I don't want to exercise this is going to be really hard your body will start believing that's happening so it's about those small positive affirmations that you can do before you get there yeah and also now I feel like the lighter mornings the lighter evenings is such a good time to get yourself out you've got this you have you really really have we'll be right back after this short break

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19:35welcome back to this episode of made by mamas now where were we this from hayley would love to hear about why both relationships previously struggled i mean i think you're doing life with somebody yeah and that is so hard let's not dress that up i mean you're i've definitely woken up sometimes and gone oh my god oh what why have I done that why have I married that person yeah yeah let's be real yeah and he's probably felt the same yes I was gonna say I think it's

20:06Georgia Dayton: really it's really difficult to live with someone and also have a share such a huge shared responsibility with somebody else and it's really unrealistic to think that you're going to be aligned on everything and then it's going to be smooth sailing because it's not and for like for james and i it was communication and parenting style that is always the thing that we come back to clashing on and communication is usually me because i just get on with things right i says just the way i am i just do things carry on doing these carry on doing things and then i realize that he's not doing anything and then it annoys me but i actually haven't said anything and then when it comes to parenting style he's way harsher like more strict more direct with the kids and I'm the opposite I'm way softer and so we always clash on that and we have done I would say we've definitely um in the last probably year now got to a good place where we've got certain certain looks certain words that we can say to each other to like stop things escalating and when it comes to the kids and if he I feel like he's been too harsh on the kids I just have to give him a look and he's like right yeah you're you know actually you're right because sometimes you just go too far and I'm probably the same as well like I'll be too eat like too easy on them and he'll look at me like are you serious come on like you can't let that go or whatever so I think it doesn't it does really take time and it's really it's so unrealistic to think that you're not going to have these bumps in the road because you will you definitely will um I think a lot a lot of the time the grievances come when accountability isn't held I think that's such a key piece you tell me how you're feeling and I try and push back and argue what your feelings are whether you agree with what whether you agree with what the person is saying to you or not they are their feelings and their feelings have to be heard and that's something that we've we've struggled with because both of us don't necessarily like holding our hands up and go even if I don't agree that that's how it happened you're now feeling like this how can I help you how can I make it better let's talk about it I hear you I share it you know we're both a bit like hang on a minute that's not how it happened and then we start getting into this like horrible sort of bickering and then the arguments and you know dozer and i do have in parts quite a volatile relationship which is quite hard for me because that's not my natural state um and but you know we're doing life we're doing we've done 12 years together we've got three beautiful children we've just completed a house renovation there's going to be highs and lows and it's just weighing up whether you think you can grow along the journey i think growth is such an important word like if you've stopped growing and your partner has stopped growing and you are just stuck in this quagmire you're not going to you're not going to flourish you're not going to be in the relationship that your heart desires you're going to be stuck and being stuck and not sharing um how you're feeling then then we're talking resentment then we're talking you know the bigger arguments the bigger chasms and that's when things can go really wrong i think so yeah yeah like george just said it's fucking hell it's it's a mountain to climb it is and we're doing it really is yeah um parenting low points low points in parenting I'm having a very tricky time with Kit at the moment I would say this is one of the hardest periods for me and him um and I actually I spoke to somebody another one of the mums at the school gates and she was like I listened to your podcast where you were talking about Kit and my son is doing exactly the same thing to me you're not alone I thought oh gosh you know thank goodness because you feel like you're the only one dealing with it but it's just the lack of listening he is so stubborn he won't do anything won't brush his teeth at bedtime when I'm like right okay 10 minutes to bed guys give them a countdown do all the things that all the psychologists have told us to do and then the telly goes off and he just will not he just will not and then he kicks and screams and shouts and tell me that he hates me get out leave me alone won't brush his teeth I mean it's a desire it's like a bat it's like a war zone every night at the moment yeah we have all been there it is yeah just yeah I think it's hard when it's someone else is actually put here when does it start to get easier I have a one and a three-year-old and I've just gone back to work oh god not now no I was gonna say I think it gets easier for a period I think my sweet spot was probably when Gigi had just first started school so she was like four and Axel was seven that was like a really nice time because we were out I mean Gigi was a horrific toddler horrific yeah she was yeah that was probably my lowest because she just used to have those screaming fits just to be fair she actually still does in a different way she's definitely still one of those people that if I say no she is for you like furious and I'm really trying now to like um pick that because that's my fault because I think from when she used to do her major meltdowns we would do anything to just like shut it and make it better and yeah basically and then now what's happened is like you literally said like we were on the high street on Monday night I was trying to get a cricket helmet or something ridiculous I was in a rush and McDonald's is on the high street she was like can I have McDonald's and I was like no um no you can't there's an Italian deli here and then I think there's a sushi place I was like happy to get you even with those if you're hungry I'm not getting you McDonald's and then she honestly went mental completely mental at me I can't believe you won't let me have what I like that's what I like it's not what you like all of this stuff and I was like okay cool you're just never allowed it again because then at least you don't need to ask um but it's that it's that stuff that they are my low points and I think that it's those things that become harder as they get older it might not be met like physically it's tiring when the kids are older but I'd say mentally yeah it gets hard for a period yeah it's definitely you're so right I think you've hit the nail on the head there with the nose you know some kids say no to Luna and Isla they go okay like okay say no to Kit and Gigi you've got World War III heading in your direction and done in different ways Kit presents in anger Gigi presents by throwing a tantrum like it's there that that's really really tough so I think in answer to that question when does it get easier like George just said it just comes in waves and then the minute you think oh my god here we are this is so nice I'm up I'm on my surfboard I'm having the best time ever it's like wave bang wave bang and that is that's that is parenting yeah yeah yeah but it does physically get easier I think it does they don't physically need you so much Susie's put hi girls is it becoming more difficult talking about the kids now they're getting older I think it did for a little while yeah but I've got to say now I feel like I need it more because I think bigger kids bigger problems and more like in-depth problems you know it's not like oh they're not drinking their milk it's like hang on a minute I don't want them to be an asshole when they grow up how am I gonna sort this out you know I think it's harder because you don't want them to hear I think but we've probably got a little bit longer for that yeah and also I don't think we go into like I would be I was thinking back I'd be happy for all my children to listen to every maybe not Dr.

28:01Tara sex episodes at the moment but you know in terms of what I've said about them I feel like I'm being hopefully being really respectful and if anything major came up I wouldn't discuss it if yeah if I felt like you know something huge was going on in their lives and that was private I wouldn't but I think talking about their um their you know the mood swings or the moments where they're struggling here bits and pieces I'm fine with that but George and I are really aware of it yeah so hopefully you guys feel that we do it in a respectful way because i would never want them to look at it you know imagine that we're slapped with that when they're like 25 well you did a whole 10 years of podcasting on us and it's fucked us up i'd be like oh my god we do it's not for your

28:41Georgia Dayton: ears yeah not for you but it is true i think there's two sides to it isn't there because we need an outlet everybody needs an outlet and everyone wants to hear what other people are going through so yeah and the only way we can do that is to talk about our own experiences and also obviously share some of yours as well um should we go to these anonymous ones yeah is james happy with his hair transplant that's so funny um i think so yeah i mean it's a process i i think his surgeon said it won't be fully through till august so i will yeah i'll let you know in august because that's like, that will have been seven months, I think, after he's had it done.

29:24Georgia Dayton: I reckon it takes a year. Yeah. Yeah, we kept thinking that it was going to come back at any moment. We were like, oh, here we go. It's going to come back. And it just took so much longer. But I guess everybody's different. Yeah. He didn't have to shave his head, did he? Yeah, he did. Oh, he did. Has he shaved it since? No, he's not allowed. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, he's not allowed to. I can have a haircut now, I think, but he's not allowed to shave it. Oh, right. and he's been going for PRP oh amazing yeah he does that every month so he's so invested he's so invested yeah but um yeah like I think he's happy I'm sure he will I don't know ask me to share a photo at some point maybe well even if he doesn't ask you you're sharing a photo we all want to see it I just not very good at like being like oh look how good his hair looks like I was much better when I was like look how dreadful his hair looks that's much easier for me but yeah no he's happy it's good I'm glad he's done it he's stopped talking about it to me now yeah well that's that's the positive isn't it um maybe one for Zoe I'm a relatively new mum my little boy is 15 months old how to stop comparing the availability of grandparents parents to other people's without feeling bitter my parents are living a very full life in their retirement good for them and I often feel hard done by love you girls oh I really really get this yeah firstly all of those feelings are valid and I gosh it's a really difficult one because it's hard not to isn't it because I think when you become when you become a parent you have these dreams about how your parents will be with their grandchildren and I actually brought this up with my mum the other day and said sometimes I feel like you are only focused on me and she was like you are my baby she was like you are my child and I said yeah but these are your grandkids and she said yeah but they're they're one they're once removed from me she was like my sole focus is you and Catherine and I was like right okay and I said but but you don't spend much time like you'll sit at your laptop and they'll be in the other room she's been here for like six or seven weeks now and she said to me the other day well you know I just really haven't had that much time with Kit and I said that's your fault not his fault not my fault that's your fault because you would rather sit here ordering stuff off Amazon than go and sit with him in the other room and play table football with him and I was like no one's fault but your own and she said oh it's just easier isn't it with the girls and I said maybe but you should want to try harder so I have these conversations constantly and then you do look at other people's families and you think oh my gosh the grandparents have them two three times a week they're doing the school pickups they're so involved like my friend Jaylen lives down the road her parents moved five minutes from her from Trinidad to be close to her and the kids and that just isn't my reality and I have accepted that I think once the acceptance comes that your parents also get to a place in their life where they they're like well I've done all the graft I've you know I've looked after my own kids i.e you yeah it's my time that my mom went like this with her hands and went it's my time to shine now and I thought oh god okay I hated her for a couple of years off the back of it but then do you know know what do I really want they're living down the road being irritating and popping in all the time probably not yeah I was gonna say and I do think anyone listening who has got support of grandparents I like I know from both sides that how much of a big difference it makes to your life it really does and it does make it a million times easier yeah and so I do think to be aware as well you know when you're talking to people who don't have that support yeah it I have the awareness because it's not it's so much easier and I do find that when you know you get into a conversation with someone and they're sort of like oh my god I just haven't got anyone to have the kids blah blah it's not your time to start saying you two it's definitely not it's like you have to and I think you know it's not your fault like that you've got the support of grandparents but I do think that everyone who does have it has to be aware that not everyone has that um and it's not and it does make life a lot easier having it for sure um yeah because I think some people don't even realize how much how lucky they are and how much support you do have when you've got like that village around you and how much of a difference it does make to your like your life so yeah I think it's just awareness all around and I think feeling you know looking at people who have got it and feeling certain certain way is totally normal um it's yeah it's just one of the I guess it's one of those things that not everyone has the same support no absolutely not and you're right there George yeah just have a bit of awareness but yeah in terms of the comparison comparison what do they say comparison joy is the thief of joy yeah and and that's why you have really good mates yeah I can ring them up and say, right, I'm leaving the kids with you.

34:49Have them overnight. Just do it and go off and have a bit of your own time.

34:53Georgia Dayton: Exactly. Zoe Georgia, you mentioned you were both helicopter parents at the beginning and now are in middle parenting. How do you cope with giving them freedom? I struggle at events and so many parents being so relaxed, but I feel the need to keep an eye on them and keep them safe. It's really hard. Go on, George. I am quite relaxed with the kids to a point. I'd say actually when they were younger and going to parties and like you know bouncy castle and all that kind of stuff I was way more relaxed now I think is where I'm becoming more of a helicopter parent than I was so when it comes to things like online playstation playing the playstation hearing him talking to friends I find that really hard not to step in and I find that really hard actually when you hear parents talking about things that have happened like there's a boy Axel's age walking home from school the other day someone was filming him um and then like teasing him or whatever I would find that really hard not to step in um and I would find it hard to not show how I felt and be relaxed um but I am so aware that there needs to be more freedom and so I think I look at like my personal family boundaries so what do I want yes I want Axel to be streetwise I'm saying Axel because he's the older one at the moment so will I let him you know go to the toilet in a restaurant yes I will when I'm there we're and I don't it doesn't feel comfortable because I'm always like oh god like who's in there what's going on but ultimately that's something you've got to learn how to do in life like you're not going to have your mum going to the toilet with you like when you're 12 or 13 that's not going to happen so there's things like that that I'm really just trying to be realistic about yeah like just that that's all it is like he potentially this time next year he'll be leaving primary school and then he'll be getting a train to school there has to be I have to let go but there are certain things I will not let go of and I'm fine with that so it's things like the online safety um anything like that I'm fine being a helicopter parent yeah me too yeah me too me too I actually really I'm starting to kind of enjoy a bit more when they go out like they love going to Tesco so that Tesco is their new favorite place to go um and on Friday afternoon they went up there with a couple of their other mates Isla was there she's 13 she's got a phone you know and they were up they were probably 25 minutes and they were just buzzing around the aisles picking up fake Stanley cups and you know fluffy pillows and they just loved it they just loved it and they came back buzzing and you could tell how much they enjoyed just being out and about by themselves and Kit was there as well and he's eight you know and I just have a chat with Isla but yeah I worry more about the online world than I do the outside world and I actually think that is probably a bit of a new way of thinking you know we've growing up we didn't have that did we so we were always worried that we were going to get snatched by a pedo and chucks in the back of a van but now i worry um you know we've deleted roadblocks that's gone he hasn't even asked for it like it's been amazing in the last like he hasn't had it for three months now and it's completely gone off his radar we don't have playstations we don't have things like that in the house um so yeah i i i i mainly worry about um the bullying and the phones and that will be the next thing that comes yeah i'm sure because you know they're eight and ten the little two they don't have phones at the moment they're not exposed to that they're in great groups of kids at school they're having a lovely time but that will be what i'm concerned about and i'll be across it i'll be militant when they get a phone yeah it's exactly the same here but i do think if your natural reaction whatever it is whether it's like you know them at the park and you don't want them to fall off or whatever it is i think it's really like setting things in your mind that you you know are really important to you and you're absolutely fine with being like a helicopter parent with and then you think of the things that you really need to let go of and then you're like right okay I'll focus on letting go of those things but these things I can't yeah I think that's great I think that's a lovely bit of advice from George there um and hopefully we've got through all of your questions today there were a few that we couldn't quite get to in the time that we had but thank you for sending them in as always um you guys make these podcasts and it is a bit of a therapy session for all of us so really you know thank you um as always we'd love you to rate review subscribe and please give the podcast a follow yeah and if you've got any feedback on this episode or topics you'd like us to cover drop us a dm on instagram we're on at made by mummers and we'll be back on tuesday

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