Friday Q&A on Ask Us Anything: Skincare, Holidays and Colonics

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2:21You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummies. But for now, George, should we get into it? Yeah. Hello and welcome to Friday's episode of the podcast. Before we get into it, George, and it's not like us to do any self-promotion, but can we please just take a moment for the fact that our podcast was at number one? I know. In the charts last week. I know. Is it the first time that we've been number one in that? Yeah, we have. We've been number one show before, but not, no, number one episode, but not number one show. But we just want to take a moment to say thank you to you guys for listening because it is such a joy for us to do these conversations.

2:56The ridiculous and the hilarious and the emotional ones. We love them all. But to get to number one was a bit of a moment, wasn't it? No, it was. It was really nice. And also quite unexpected because we don't really keep an eye on these things. And then our producer sent us a message and we were like, oh, my God. It's amazing. Did you celebrate at the weekend? I did. I showed Axel because I wanted him to think I was cool. Did he give zero fucks? And he was like, right, so that's just number one in that chart. That's not like number one overall. And I was like, okay, cool. All right. I remind you of that when you come first in a running race.

3:29Yeah, it was just that one at your school. It's not overall in the world. So unless it is, come back to me. That's hilarious. Yeah. So did you celebrate? I actually did. I had quite a really nice impromptu night with some of my new friends. Don't get upset. Who are they? Well, I've made them from the gym. Oh. Gym friends. Oh, do you know what though? We talk about making new friends as an adult quite a bit, don't we? Yeah. And it can be difficult, but go on then, tell us how you did it. So I train at this gym called Instate and pretty much the only reason, obviously the classes are, I love them, but the community is so nice and they're all really like-minded guys and girls and we train really hard, but we always go for a coffee afterwards.

4:15And I just thought, do you know what? fuck it I'm just going to invite a few of them around and everyone came and sat in the garden people kept coming at different times and I thought this is so they're just really great women oh my god that's so nice lovely not not a Georgia no no no no but just like a replacement if I'm not about that sort of thing because you live so bloody far away um we need to get into today's Q &A because we're doing a little sort of mini ask us anything yes exactly we we did one on Instagram a couple of weeks ago and we had loads of questions and some things you can answer on Instagram when it's like, you know, where's your jumper from or where's this?

4:49But you can't always really go into it so that's why we're doing this one because we can unpick it a little bit more. Do you want to start us off, George? Yeah, let's start us off. Where should we go? Oh, this is a good one. How to completely change your career. I'm 34, mum of two and I'm stuck in a rut. oh I love this from Katie yeah so I think firstly you need to be following MBM careers because obviously we've got our recruitment business now helping mums change careers or get back into work those that are feeling that they are exactly like Katie and stuck in a rut my first bit of advice would be sit down and ask yourself what you want now what you need and who you are currently today and write down everything that you love doing things that make you feel fulfilled if your current job isn't setting you on fire what does now because you're going to be a completely different person pre-kids to post-kids yeah exactly and once you've sort of figured that out and let that ruminate for a while and it's not as easy as that but have really have a think about it then you can take the next steps into thinking right so what is it that I actually want to spend my time doing yeah exactly and I think as well like sometimes it's good to ask around and ask other people what they do because I think there are so many careers and jobs and stuff that you don't even know exist until you start talking to people and like find out what it is you know I don't know someone that's one of the mums at school or whatever it is um and I think as well sometimes ask other people what they think you're good at as well like what they think your strengths are because it might be something you don't even realize that you are good at and then I would say if you already know what you want to do I think you need to almost come up with a plan because it's not as easy as just jumping across to another company in this in this in the same job I think there does that there has to be some conversations that happen before so is it that you find someone at a company you want to work for and go and have a coffee with them or you you find out you know do you know anyone that works there who might be able to put in a good word because I think when you're changing career it can be difficult to show your like transferable skills on a piece of paper yeah um and that cv is really key actually yeah also also just drop us a message email katie at made by mamas careers.com yeah and get make sure that that cv is really tight because we don't just wait for jobs to come into us we also approach brands that we're working with so if we can help in any way shape or form please do message us we're here for you yeah good luck This one is so funny.

7:26How did you decide to go from one to two kids can't decide?

7:32I feel like we're the wrong people to ask. I mean, I just got so fucked up at my wedding and then had unprotected sex, came back. And for two weeks, I felt like dog shit and realised that my hangover wasn't going and I was actually pregnant. Do you remember? I was like, why do I still feel so bad? And I was pregnant. Yeah, I mean, ours wasn't planned either. I never forget that moment where we did the pregnancy test. Yes, in the toilets. Were we in Byron Burger? It was in the toilets of Byron Burger or somewhere like that. And I did it wrong. It was so annoying. She turned up to a podcast record and I took one look at her and I went, you're pregnant.

8:05And my mum had said it to me that morning as well. You looked ashen. Yeah, yeah. And I said, right, we've got to go and do a pregnancy test. And you were like, what now? And I was like, yeah, we're doing it. So off we went to Boots to get it, went downstairs to the bogs down there. And I said, have you done it? Have you done it? I was waiting outside and you tucked it up your sleeve. I think I put up my sleeve to walk out and it had to be flat or something. Then we had to wait till we got home. But we knew. And we knew. So there we go. Not the right person to ask. But I do think, because I never, I actually didn't ever think I wanted more children.

8:35I was happy with one. Like I was really happy. I'm an only child. I love being an only child. I couldn't really understand like why you would want to have more. but but now that I have I think if it's a question in your mind I think you'd only regret not doing it I don't think you would ever regret doing it I agree with you I mean at times you might you know let's be honest at times you might think oh my god why have I done this but do you know what I think there's pros and cons to both sides of the argument I couldn't wait to have a second slash third you know because of Eileen but I think it's better to just get it done.

9:15If it's in your mind and you're thinking, oh, is now the right time? Should I do it? It's kind of like, you already know the carnage that you're in because you've got one child. We always say that going from zero to one was much harder than going from one to two. So actually, you're already in it. Just go for it. Just go for it, exactly. Tips for finding holiday clubs. All of them seem to be nine to 3 p.m. Do your kids enjoy them? Thanks. So this is a bit of a dichotomy, I think, because the ones that my kids like finish at three yeah the ones they don't like are the all-day ones are the all-day ones I know but we're lucky because we've got the wonderful Taylor who looks after our kids and can pick them up now that's not everybody's you know situation so I think my first a bit of advice would be put it on the school whatsapp group yeah and ask if any of their mates are doing any of the clubs and then also maybe if they do finish at three there is a bit of a tag team situation that you can get sort of jump on board with like one of the mums can pick up one day let's say there's three or four of them doing the same clubs and you can kind of take it in turns and work it out yeah because what you don't all want to be doing is in the same boat at 10 past three at home trying to work or trying to do other things and you've got one child there you might as well do it with four yeah entertain each other exactly and you can do it like yeah one one time in a week yeah share the load i also think as well like if you've got local facebook groups like we've got Essex mums or Brentwood mums or whatever and you can go on there and you don't even have to type anything in you can just search and like search for like holiday clubs or whatever that's quite good for recommendations I also find and I don't know if you get this but mine don't like the same things so like Axel would happily go to a football club you know from seven in the morning till seven at night Gigi couldn't think of anything worse yeah same and I hate having to do two drops so I have found like the ones that sort of like a virgin or a David Lloyd that kind of thing like a leisure center they're quite good if you've got kids that don't like the same thing because they're a bit more mixed like they'll do tennis swimming like it's and also again they are full days like yeah they can do a longer day there um yeah there's loads there's loads around I find it so hard when they go oh I don't want to go I don't want to go and you think okay but you kind of have do so at that point you just say yeah i know and i get it but i do think once they get there they enjoy it they do yeah of course they do yeah totally um okay let's talk about skincare daily routine because let's be honest there's been about four or five messages about your glow recently oh that's nice not one about my day yes there has it always says either of us um what's your what's your daily routine well you taught me how to hot hot cleanse at the end of the day when georgia was getting all bossy and telling me that i had to wake up at 7 30 even though oh no earlier 6 30 so when we were away but you did give me that beautiful tip on um hot cleansing at night with like we love the elemis um cleanser like a barn cleanser i'll use the beauty pie one that's so good yeah um and then so i'll always do that and then i use a really great retinol i love medicate it is the best and it lasts for a really long time i'm actually at the top strength now so i'm not sure where i'm supposed to go from here but um hopefully younger looking skin i love a vitamin c serum that i can wear in the day i love the one from obagi because it does a complete block so my melasma actually hasn't come out in the summer like can you it's No, no, no, it's not.

12:48As bad as it was. Not at all. And then I love Tatcha. Tatcha Skin Care, the dewy cream. Oh, yeah. It's just the best thing ever. You've said that before. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've probably had the same, like, routine now for years and years. So I literally have the same cleanser, that Beauty Pie one in the evening. And then in the morning, I have, like, the Japan Fusion one. Oh, yeah, nice. And then I use the Beauty Pie, or actually, not always. So the Beauty Pie Pink Moisturiser. I can't remember what it's called, but there's only one on there. or this L 'Oreal one. It's in a purple tub. That's also really good because it's really light.

13:22And then I use the hyaluronic acid from Beauty Pie, the pink one. Oh, yeah, that's great. Or, and then in the morning, I use Sunday Riley CEO Go. I love Sunday Riley. I love that one. It's so nice. But I've got this. Oh, my God. This is actually so embarrassing. I've got this. It's not called this. It's called something else. I typed in perineal dermatitis and I was going to text one of the dads at school to say, I've got peroneal dermatitis. What's peroneal? No, that's of your bum. And I'm so glad that I typed in first. It's not called that. It's something else. It's where you get, right, dermatitis just hit.

14:00Yeah. I don't know what, and I cannot work out what's triggering it. You were going to text him and say that you had a rashy bum? Yeah. And I was going to say, shall I send you a picture? so I'm really glad that I googled it first and realized it was not perineal but it's a word like that but um yeah so at the moment I'm being really careful because I don't know what it like there is obviously something that's triggering it because when I was on holiday I didn't have it so what is it that I wasn't you I don't know I obviously wasn't using something on holiday okay that I am using now but it's that you definitely don't have a rash of bum just to confirm to the listeners We'll be right back after this short break.

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15:50Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? Oh, this is interesting. Creatine, do you take it? I want to, but the first time I used it, it made me feel a bit sicky. I don't take it. I don't take it. But I remember when James was playing football and he was the same. It really didn't agree with his stomach. But I keep seeing loads of people, especially women online now, saying that they take it because it's really good for your hormones as well. I'm sure there are good ones that maybe are not so harsh. Okay. But I don't personally use it. I don't personally use it either.

16:27But I do like a protein shake. So I think if you're, it's creating the same thing as protein shakes. Or is it? No, I think it's slightly different. We're the wrong people to ask, but we both don't take it. We don't, no. Maybe we should be. I think Doz was taking it when he was playing rugby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like James used to. But I don't know. I do remember it being harsh on his stomach. I do take collagen religiously though, every single morning. Yeah, I do. I have the rubble. And I love, that is my favourite. Yeah. extracurricular vitamin or supplement um zoe did your body did you feel your body changed after 40 hmm my boobs got a bit saggier i don't think that's exclusive to 40 did my body change after 40 i tell you what i think i'm probably having to work harder to keep my stomach flat than i ever have done right um but i didn't and I've noticed that my skin elasticity is depleting every year and that's why I take collagen yeah the biggest tip that I can give anybody listening is weight training yeah you you've got to be doing in my mind two minimum two sessions of weight yeah for it because you do notice that things are a little bit I just I just I just noticed like the density of my you know I need to keep building my muscles to keep the elasticity in the skin going it's all linked for me yeah and so I think yeah weight training is a really good a good bit of advice and then combining that with your cardio for your heart health yeah I just joined so I think if you've listened to like the last few episodes we had Megan Grubb on the podcast and then um gosh what's her name mummy juggler on Instagram and I'm like I've said it before but like I'm always all in or all out like I'm always really really good and really structured or I just don't but I think I've set myself up to fail in the past because I try to over commit to it so I've just joined this new thing and it's near us in Brentwood and it's called squad PT oh great and I mean James calls it Doris's PT because it's basically like a little group of women and we you know weight train but oh my god he's brilliant James by the way no no he he obviously he yeah I mean he's always rude um what's new but um it everyone is over 50 pretty much okay but I love that because I'm looking at them and I'm like if you can do this I can do this and also they're they're moving in a way that I hope I am you know like and I love it but I've only committed to twice a week and I have to do twice a week because it's my monthly thing is what I pay for and then if I get in on top of that then great and if I don't then I don't but it's realistic and I it's not too sweaty I love that George that's you know I train with someone who's 62 and she can bench press more than me amazing see that's that's the thing isn't it slightly furious but then the other part is just in awe of this incredibly strong woman who's only started weight training in the last two or three years and she's just really strong yeah it's amazing to watch absolutely amazing recommendations for October half term break please with a four year old and a one year old October October half term do you know what I reckon Portugal's quite a good shout in October half term because the crowds won't be there it's still nice and warm or maybe even Greece yeah I was going to say I think Greece Portugal also Morocco that's a really good place for like winter sun also do you know what I haven't been myself I went to Marrakesh and we stayed at a fancy hotel out probably wouldn't recommend for a four and a one year old to be fair i'm sure it would be fine it would be like it would just annoy you but we've got friends who keep going back to is it called tagazoot tagazoot something like that begins with a t and they stay at the fairmont there and because it's quite an up-and-coming area it's not mega expensive i think they've been this might be their third time this year oh well they've been they're there now i would say somewhere like that because the weather is going to be, you know, pretty much guaranteed and the flight's not that long.

20:45It's a really good shout. Also, can we just give a special bit of love to some parts of Tenerife? Yeah. Because Tenerife at that time of year, again, you've been, you stayed in a lovely hotel there. Yeah, we stayed at, it's called the Bahia del Duque. That's a gorgeous hotel for a one year old. Absolutely great. There's a Ritz Carlton there. I know. That's meant to be really good. Yeah. Obviously, it takes me back to my take-me-out days. Oh, yeah, go on. So I used to go there all the time. Tell us. The Isle of Fernandos, guys. Maybe not for a four-and-one-year-old. No, you stay away from those areas.

21:22Yeah, I think you just look on average temperatures because I think, unfortunately, everywhere's getting hotter, but places that never used to be hot in October might be now. Yeah. This one's interesting. Cellulite. Do you girls suffer? Tips and advice. Welcome as my confidence is rock bottom. I definitely do on my legs and I think I've spoken about this before I don't wear shorts but I got over myself I wish you would no no no I have fully got over myself and I've started wearing shorts yes I wore shorts to the gym for the first time on Friday sighting ones no the volley like running ones they're very short though yeah yeah and alright you slut I don't know why I'm freaking myself they're very short you've shown your growler to everyone at the fucking gym they've got in built knickers they're that short um and i wore a pair of linen shorts yesterday oh george well done because i think i must have put on i think i put on instagram like oh i don't really wear shorts and i thought get over it like why do you care so i'm trying to just have that attitude well done so i feel do you get cellular is that why you don't wear well i don't know yeah i do like maybe at the tops but I just I mean what can you do?

22:38I drink loads of water like do you know what I mean? Tell you what you can do the first thing you've got to do is to cut out caffeine coffee I mean I am not going to do that it's not about you it's about this woman that sent in a message but coffee is the biggest trigger for cellulite if you cut coffee out I swear to God that will improve your cellulite okay also circulation we've got to get we've got so skin buff dry brushing or brushing in the shower. Another tip, fake tan. Let's just tan. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Do not forget about your legs. Your poor legs at the end of your beautiful torso, they need a bit of extra love.

23:15So moisturizing, fake tanning. But really cellulite comes from within. It's all to do with diet. It will be to do with your water intake as well. Drink as much water as you can and cut out coffee and that will help loads. But also I think it's normal. It's totally normal. It's just one of those things like you might not like it but if you know you've got to wear what you want to wear i know it's really hard it is hard have you had lymphatic drainage but i really want it yeah i see everyone i had it um when did i have it a couple of months ago i do think it helps well on your stomach or on your legs everywhere i had a full lymphatic body drainage massage but are you like does it help with your bowel movement.

23:58Don't know why I did a weird voice then. Bowel. I don't know. Because did it hurt when she was massaging your stomach? No. Because have you ever had a colonic before? That might help you sell it. No. I've never had a colonic. Have you had a colonic? Oh yeah, I've had a colonic. Do you like it? No. No. Because I feel like I'm going to shit myself throughout the whole experience and then of course afterwards you do shit yourself. But the side of it I find really weird was you have to lie there and go one, two, three, whilst the pipe is up your arse and it's building up and then the pressure's building up and it's like, whoa!

24:30But then you know that you're not going to poo yourself, so then you go again. But it's really just training the brain. What a clear out that is for you. There we go. There's a few things to try. That'd be a nice thing to do, isn't it, Tuesday afternoon? A little colonic. We'll be right back after this short break.

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26:14Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? How are we getting through the summer with a four-year-old who does not stop talking? Oh my God, why do some children not stop talking? That's Axel. It's a lot. Can Axel sit down and watch a film? He wouldn't, no. Why not? He's just not interested. Do you sit down and watch a film? No. No, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. No. Because we were watching the tennis last night, how very middle class of us, and Kit was totally engaged. Like, Cameron Norrie nailed it, by the way. So our only Brit left in Wimbledon. He's loving it.

26:52Luna, however, was like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I was like, can you just sit down? And she just won't. She's all over the place with it. And if you sit with her, she's just like, uh-uh. Yeah, can't stop moving. That's exactly the same as Axel. Or even just, you know when you're just driving in the car and you just want silence? He'll go to me, mum, what's the best burger you've ever eaten in your life? And I'll be like, I'm not sure. What do you mean you're not sure? Okay, what's the most expensive burger that's ever been sold? I don't know. Every silence has to be filled.

27:27It is awful. Awful. Actually, that gives me quite bad anxiety because I quite like the silences. So do I. But although, can I just say something to you? the flip side of that is having Kit as a son, who literally, I'll go, oh my God, how was it today? And he goes, can't remember. Oh, yeah. I go, but I've literally just picked you up. Is there any information you want to give me? And he goes, no. Yeah. Or like, how are you? I don't know. I mean, he literally won't say anything to me. And I look at him in the car, and he's just looking out the window like that. And I'm like, is he all right? Or that's not just his resting bitch face.

28:02I mean, he never talks. To me, about anything interesting. I even have great conversations with other people. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, to this person, I absolutely know. Drink a lot of wine. Yeah, and I think it's deep breaths and it's putting your headphones in. Or put your head in the fridge and just shout. Yeah, headphones.

28:26What's the best piece of advice for parents, advice that you've been given?

28:33what is the best piece of advice that i've been given lower your standards

28:41what's yours being a mum is great but not all parts of being a mum you will enjoy yes do you know i know exactly what you mean and someone summed it up perfectly on the podcast the other day that said like being a mum is is changed her life and is the best thing that she's ever done but then at the same time doing all the shit that comes with it doesn't mean you enjoy everything miserable yeah and i often think that when i'm just clearing up again at home i just think i never wanted to be a maid yeah i never wanted to do this thanks very much yeah but yet i am it's quite a lot on like skincare and botox and stuff yeah talk to us about your treatments George?

29:21So I had Profilo for a couple of years. I really like it. And actually now laying off Botox. I've kind of gone off it a bit because I think we'll see. Yeah. Your face is still frozen. So give it a few weeks. I think. Yeah. I've not had it for six months. So you shut your cake hole. No, I had Profilo the last time. But your forehead. No, I've got lines here. Lift up your eyebrows. You wouldn't even know if her mother had died. Yeah. But I know I am laying, and I'm definitely not having it around my eyes anymore. Why? Because I just look at people who've had it around their eyes and they look like this.

29:57I quite like that expression. See, I don't. And I think when you see it on yourself, you're like, oh, no, I don't want to look like that. Right. It's when you cry that that is weird. Or when your kids don't know you're angry. That's also weird. So for me, Profilo is like my number one now. I still absolutely will have Botox, just not as much. I think before I was like every three months, three months, three months, three months, three months. And actually, I think you've just got to like look at when you actually need to have it done. Yes. And not just book in every three months because you think that's what needs to happen.

30:30OK. But for me, that's what works. Those two things at the moment. That's it. OK. How about you? How long have you been? Yeah. I love Profilo too. Yeah. In fact, I often say to you, don't I, that if there's one beauty treatment that I would never stop having, having it's profilo same really love it yeah um and also my my lovely paula at clinical cosmetics she was saying that for anybody that sort of you know do you ever look in well you're not even 40 yet but sometimes i look in the mirror and i just want to go up like that and just i just pull this bottom half of my face lift i'm not having a face lift but you can have this thing called profilo structure oh yes the new one the new one which you have with a cannula yes my dentist told me about this but yeah so if you do need if you've noticed that you've lost elasticity around your mouth yeah and you're getting like a bit of a droopy mouth you can have that and it literally just pulls the skin up like that and that's like a tiny tweakment that you can have that's not that invasive yeah i love botox forehead chin i can't have it in my top lip anymore because the last time i had it migrated you remember yeah and i was trying to drink out of a straw and i was going and Dozzle was going, what's wrong with your face?

31:45And I was like, I think I've had too much Botox in my top lip to stop the barcodes. So I've stopped having that now. And what else? What I really want to go and have is some lasers. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I think, yeah, we need to try some other things. Yeah. It's just the longer game, isn't it? It's the longer game, yeah. Polynucleotides. Oh, I've had polynucleotides. Did you like that? Because I was thinking about that. No. Not really. Not for you. Yeah, because this is the thing. This is the whole thing, isn't it? That some things are good for some people and some things aren't good for people.

32:18Like, I don't know. I mean, it sounds good. It's probably time to confess on the podcast as well that I've had my lips done recently. Oh, yeah. And you did have a bruise. I did tell everyone that a door hit me in the face, do you remember? Because I wanted to get sympathy. Yeah. But an actual fact. But they look really good. So I went to Dr. Jane and... Do you know why I did it? I did it because I couldn't have any more Botox here and I was worried about all these barcodes. and that's completely sorted out. I just had 0.4, which is a tiny bit, but a blood vessel did, I got a bad bruise. Sorry to all my friends that listen to this podcast, I lied to you about the fact that I got hit in the door.

32:53Hit in the face with the door. That didn't happen. Oh, God. Don't judge me. How do you react when kids are constantly bickering and eldest, 13, tells me daily she hates me? Oh, my God. okay firstly she does not hate you yeah she does not hate you and I'm saying that to myself as well yeah for similar reasons um I think it's really important to remember that yes you know there has to be boundaries around what she says to you but at the same time you're her closest person and therefore she probably has no control sometimes over those rages that she's getting I think it's really interesting that our pre or teenage girls come into that period in their life where they're so hormonal and then we become perimenopausal yeah so there's this like constant kind of battle and rage between the two of us um I I think if you remember how you were feeling at that age that might give you some comfort pick your battles with what you tackle you know sometimes you've just got to let it go over your head I mean if she's been outright rude it's like not okay but sometimes just be like oh whatever do you know what yeah let it i think it was at nicole house we had on recently and she was talking a lot about this and she was almost saying you have to like not react you have to respond not react so you almost have to just take a minute like almost let it go in and then come back with a response rather than a reaction yeah and i think that's probably key for act for so much like not just teenagers but just the constant bickering all that kind of stuff it's so easy just to like shout intervene but actually i think it just adds another layer it just makes you more chaos yeah i think you've just gotta take yeah just try and take a step back i have it with mine like i've not got a 13 year old but the bickering and sometimes i just want to be like just shut up just stop but they're not going to it's like a whole natural part of being siblings isn't it which i don't understand but they you know i think they probably need to do that with each other the more you intervene the more stressful it is for you you know you we've all been in those situations where we're like you two stop doing that and don't say that and and actually they're siblings yeah if you can just remove yourself from that situation dangerous let them get on with it and also with your like it's really horrible when someone it's quite triggering i think when someone's like i hate you pull her aside when the heat has gone that's what nicole said as well like when it's not hot and have a conversation with her and say when you say that to me you actually really hurt my feelings and it's not okay yeah and I won't have it so please don't use that word yeah just keep reiterating it be really consistent and yeah I don't yeah yeah I don't like it it's not it's not great um should we do one more yeah one more products bought in newborn stage that you regret oh my god mine is so fucking funny do you remember how many of those weird sleeping like contractions that I had in my tiny living room in the flat in sheldon one was like one was one was like cocooning her the other one was shaking her around swing as well the worst one was this like cocoon thing where it sort of swaddled her and she just laid there looking at me like this yeah and she was like please fucking take me out of this and i did and then it just sat in my living room for like six months yeah cocoon a baby it was called If you look back now, I think I would hardly buy anything at the beginning.

36:28Because I think there's stuff that works for someone's kid. You know, like, it might be your best mate's kid, and they're like, oh my God, this is the best thing ever. I bought that massive, what's called, four mums rockaroo or something. And it's got, like, something that's meant to, like, do the same thing as a car that makes them go to sleep. Which is fine, I get it, when you're desperate, totally. But ultimately, then your kid only knows how to sleep when they're in a car. which is not always possible but I bought this thing from the baby show which my friend at the time who had a baby said you're never going to use that and I was so offended I was like of course I will like it's so practical and it was um it was basically like a carrier bag for your baby it was like uh yeah it was it was a carrier bag you put the you know you can't put a baby in it and then you like picked it up like that and it was just like playing like that and I thought because at the time we lived in Cheltenham in a flat with no lift or anything.

37:24So I thought, I'll be fine. I'll get it out of the car seat and I'll carry up the stairs like a bag of shopping. So I wouldn't recommend that. What you do now, your Tesco shopping. Exactly. And then, oh God, I left that one on the bottom of the stairs. That's hilarious. No, I wouldn't recommend that. But I also, there's so many good things now, like the rental sites, that you don't have to invest in all these things. You can try them out for a bit before you buy. The one you don't want to miss out on getting is the snot sucker. Oh, no, that's amazing. That is amazing. I met the founder, Frida Baby, not that long ago.

37:58Well, she's not the founder of the snot sucker, but she owns the distribution to that piece of equipment. And, yeah, amazing. I was trying it on myself the other day. Were you? I was bored. I actually gave one to my friend who's pregnant the other day. She's probably going to open her pass with me like, what the fuck is this? Thanks for the snot sucker, Georgia. Actually, that's a really good buy. Thank you so much for all of your amazing questions that you've sent in today. We love answering them. Of course, these podcasts are for you on a Friday. As always, we'd love you to rate, review, subscribe, and please give the podcast a follow.

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