Friday Q&A on the First Ask Us Anything of 2026!

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0:34We're on at Made by Mummies. But for now, George, should we get into it? Day 525 of not going to the loo. Oh, no. I think this is a good place to share this information on the podcast. Just said I'm not going to talk about this on the podcast. I think I said I haven't spoken about this on the podcast. I can't go to the loo, guys. This is going to appear on one of those things that you shouldn't share on podcast. You know that guy who does the funny clips? He's like, things that shouldn't be spoken about on the podcast. But guys, what the hell is going on? You just can't go. What, since you got back?

1:07Well, currently when we're recording this, it's day six. I bet there'll be some doctors listening to this that are like, you've got a fucking problem. You've green yet. I reckon I ate a lot of eggs in Kenya. Do you think that's what it is? Like probably two eggs a day. What's that? Oh, God, I easily do that. What? Two eggs a day? Easy. 14 eggs a week? Easy. Probably for my whole life. I find them so binding Do you? I am glugging laxatives like they're vodka on a Friday night in a bar In the night as well It's not working You need to go and get one of those pessaries I'm fucking not doing it I can't do it Oh my god Do you think I need a pessary?

1:47Yeah I do My medical professional hat tells you you need a pessary Go to Boots I don't want to ask for a bum pessary No you need to not be embarrassed so you need to go to Boots. I'll pretend it's for me if you want. Can I please get a pessary for my podcast host, Georgia Dayton? This is her Instagram. Okay, listen, update next week on how I go, but that's how I'm starting this podcast. How are you? I mean, I'm fine. I have not been to the toilet for six days, and I've still eaten 14 eggs. Maybe more. Might have eaten 20. Do you reckon hormones can impact your digestion? You're asking me like I know.

2:23I don't know the answer. Well, I don't know. So far, you've told me to go get a pessary and you've given me shit advice. Well, because that's the only thing I know to do. Or movical. Movical. Movical. Yeah. So James broke his ribs once. Oh, God. This is one of those things, again, that you shouldn't say out loud, but it's coming out. Right. And he had a problem with that. I mean, whatever. He tells everyone anyway. It doesn't matter. But he, so he broke his ribs and he didn't go to the toilet for a long time because they gave, is it morphine? Yeah, yeah. Morphine, yeah. And my cousins came up to stay with us.

2:56This is when we lived in Glasgow. And they were like, I don't know, early 20s at the time, I think. Maybe even late teens. And so we were just taking them around to like nice places to eat, you know, just doing nice things with them. And James kept saying to me, like, George, I'm getting really long. I can't keep eating. I really can't do this anymore. And we were in this hotel that was in the next road to our house. And he was like, I've got to go home. so he went home and me and my cousins walked into the flat and he was going Georgia help me and it was honestly like he was in labor oh my poor cousins he had the toilet door open oh no he didn't he was squatting on the floor right they have never forgotten it I feel so bad for them and all he was going was georgia help me he wasn't doing it on the yet because he was that delirious and that much in pain he said it was hands down worse than breaking his ribs like he would take breaking his ribs all over again but he did a poo on the floor he had to it was so so bad this is the best story you've ever told in the world and it looked like an arm oh my god it literally looked like an arm oh my god so i'll just let you think about that and look forward to it when you don't want to go to boots and say to them my sphinx has just gone back up inside so guys in today's podcast we'll be talking about the poo that we had no we're doing an ask us anything which none of you asked for basically we've answered a question that none of you wanted to hear about but we we have had a load of questions anyway if you're still here stick with us guys with the Q &A stick with us uh do you want to kick us off yeah honest life update with a dog and young children okay can I start because I've got positive news yeah so I didn't share this that much on the podcast because I didn't want to be one of those people that was kind of moaning about how difficult it was to have a dog yeah but I've got to be honest with you it did cause quite a lot of problems at home last year at the back end of last year and nobody's fault especially Murphy but I don't think that either of us me probably more so because I had dogs growing up but I don't think Doz knew exactly what would happen when a puppy came into our house right okay we just finished doing it up yeah we've lost a chair leg in the process she scratched the back of the doors you know she's we got a lovely lovely gorgeous tan leather sofa which has been scratched and there was just a lot of arguments that were brewing around it but she's seven and a half months now and we've turned a corner all the chewing stopped all the scratching stopped there's no pooing and weeing inside apart from hopefully me at some point and um so yeah honest update it's a I would say the first three to four months are really difficult in my experience anyway I know it's been different for you but yeah maybe just potentially like I didn't really realize you know how much you'd have to walk them and that you can't leave them alone and all that sort of stuff but the joy that it has brought our family has completely outweighed that I would say if you've got young kids no younger than five don't do it yes don't do it that's exactly what I was gonna say like to be fair we've had in touch wood we've had a really easy ride at home but we had two weeks off over Christmas both of us in fact James had longer and we sort of knew that so I knew the lead up would be easier because we knew like we wouldn't be leaving like very much when we're going into work like they're all the things that I think you don't think about you forget that they can't be left straight away and like all that kind of thing but yeah it's actually been fine for us but again I think that has had a lot to do with us being around a lot and also my parents being around a lot um but I had forgotten about having to stay up like late so that they can go they don't wee and pee and yeah you like stay up till like 10 o 'clock well yeah and that's I guess best case scenario like sometimes people have to get up in the night to take them out for a wee like we actually haven't had to do that no we haven't had to do that but yeah I just I do think this was a good time to do it like at gg6 ax was nine ax will get up in the morning take him outside yeah he's old enough to pick up poo he's old enough to put the water down to put the food down I think that's your benchmark yeah because if you've got kids that are younger no like if you're having to help them to go to the toilet you it's a it's a no for i personally think like i'm glad we've done it now us too and i don't think i would have done it when they were younger no um but for do you know what's been really nice is that watching axel take care of something because he's not really like that i think you know if you've got kids who like playing with dolls and babies and just in general like quite caring and nurturing then that's one thing if you've got kids who really aren't like that like Axel it's really nice to see him like have a softer like yeah just more caring it's actually it's it's lovely and also not thinking about himself so much you know he has to think about him a narcissist has to care yeah he's got to think about someone else but it has it has been really good for him to have more awareness yeah um so yeah positive outlook from both of us yeah oh no definitely like really not but I do think you've got to do your research on breeds and all of that kind of stuff yeah we were going to get a vizsla and one of our mates had a vizsla and basically I'm so grateful for that phone call he rung me and just said whatever you do do not get a vizsla really because because the fact that we've got young kids they need so much walking and you're absolutely right on the breeds yeah I'm sure there's going to be vizsla owners that are like I mean they are the most beautiful wonderful dogs I'm just saying if you've got really busy life and you know you can't be walking for you know one you've got to be realistic it's like yeah exactly yeah you really have got to be realistic with what you can do and not just go on the dog you like the look of or like you know you you had growing up or whatever you've got to really look at your own life correct and decide yeah like what's right i.e i've got a dog that doesn't like walking which is fabulous I mean, go figure, guys.

9:12Ellie says, how do you manage constant fighting between siblings? Get a really good pair of earplugs. Yeah, don't manage it. Oh, my God. I think the more you manage it, the worse it is for you and your stress levels. Same. If you start being the ref and you're constantly like, oh, stop doing that and stop doing that and oh, leave each other alone. You can feel your stress levels rising and rising and rising. I've got a rule unless they're physically fighting and punches are being thrown which has happened a couple of times but really not that many I just leave them I just either walk out the room or just you know ignore it yeah I'm the same like I think there's some things you just can't control and I think siblings fighting and arguing I mean sometimes I'll say if they're arguing over something I can take away like the tv or they're arguing over something physical then I just go okay cool no one's having it yeah done shut down off you know you can get on with it yeah and yeah I don't really know how else you're supposed to sort it out yeah it just happens doesn't it and distraction I think is like key taking one of them away yeah right come with me let's get on with it we're gonna go and do our teeth or would you know we're moving into a different room sometimes that works for me yeah it's normally about attention in that moment oh Oh, definitely.

10:27And also, I think as well, like if you spend loads of time with someone, you can get to that sort of point where everything's just icky and annoying. And that's probably how they feel. And they probably do just need some time apart. We'll be right back after this short break.

10:45Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? How was the travel to Kenya, Zoe? It was amazing. I think this is talking about the actual travel. Yeah. So it is a nine hour flight to Nairobi. So we get on the night flight leaving from Heathrow. It's nine hours. The kids didn't really sleep that much on the flight out there, which was quite a lot. Luna probably got like one and a half hour sleep. Kit slept for like six hours. So bless Luna. But they're a bit used to it now and they're good at traveling. So I just took loads of snacks, fully charged iPads. They've got iPods now.

11:21and so they filled up my Spotify list with loads of their music so they love listening to tunes and then from there you this is a bit of a nightmare and you do have to get your head around it when you land in Nairobi you've obviously sorted your visa out in the UK that never used to be the case you used to literally be like climbing over people and paying 50 dollars to get your visa on the ground in Kenya so that's made things a lot easier but at that point if you're then flying down to the coast which we are you then have to go to the baggage hall get all of your luggage go through security again to get out of the airport you then have to walk across the car park which is an absolute disaster there's no place for like trolleys so you're like dodging cars and x1z then you have to go through security again off the night flight go into the domestic terminal and then it's an hour hopper down it's long it's a bit tiring but the best thing is there's no jet lag because they're only three or two hours ahead so and then we're there and then my mom's place is another two hours up the coast from their driving so we just picked up our hire car and then we just drive it's a lot but it's so worth it it's I cannot tell you how magical that country is it's a bucket list place to go I'm really like I like you're working for the Glasgow Tourist Board I really want more people to experience Kenya yeah because you can also do it it's not like a Barbados where it's kind of five star and super luxe and everything's really polished it's the opposite of that so it's it's it's obviously an expense to get out there but you can then do it you know on the sort of cheaper side when you're there that's interesting yes yeah I'm gonna do like a full breakdown of what we did and places that we stayed at even safari and stuff because I think a lot of people want to do it but yeah they do yeah I would love to do it yeah yeah and also you if you don't know what to expect I guess when you land in Nairobi and then you're like oh my god where have I got to walk to this is like yeah if you know what's coming and you're prepared for it then it's fine yeah exactly yeah and this is the first year we gave them malaria tablets as in we went we went down the western route because before they were young enough for me to just cover them in you know mozzy cream and then put them under their nets because they were going to bed earlier but this year they were staying up a bit later and so that all worked really well because kit wasn't even swallowing tablets at the beginning of the i had to like hide them in bits of bread you do have dogs exactly so yeah i'll do i'll do a breakdown on Instagram cool Georgia how do you make time to exercise I'm really struggling at the moment um I think this is really difficult especially when you're really busy but I think it's good to be realistic and I think probably said this before but I always used to think you had to spend an hour in the gym right and I think loads of people think that like unless you've got an hour there's no point well you don't have to and you can find pockets of time so now I work out more often like more frequently but they're shorter so like I've got a reformer at home which you can rent so I think it's like 39 pounds a week which is less than going to two classes and I can go on there at six in the morning in my pajamas and I you know can do a half an hour 45 minute workout before anyone's up or I've got and I joined another granny gym and it's actually even more granny than the one before my dad goes super granny super granny and it's a 32 minute circuit you go in and do great and that's it and then you leave but what I've realized is okay I'm not dripping with sweat when I come out and it's not full on but I'm going and I'm going regularly and so that's more important like being consistent so I think you just got to be realistic with what you can do and then do that and then build it up like you know you could just be realistic like oh I can only do two half an hour a week fine do that and then you feel good about doing that 100 % yeah it's really good advice that and also thinking about your habits I think you've got so much more chance of sustaining a habit if you start the day how you want the day to follow as in for me if I don't get my exercise done in the morning it looms for the rest of the day yeah and then I put it off and put it off and put it off it gets to four o 'clock it starts getting dark and I think I'll sort it I'll do it tomorrow so ideally you try and get it done in the morning or at lunchtime depending on what your work schedule is but like Georgia said it's it's it doesn't have to be that high intensity killing yourself in the gym it can be you know a circuit class that you do by yourself it can be doing weight training at home it can be popping out for a run it can be going for a walk all of those things contribute to like a healthier mindset and will really your body will thank you yeah I was gonna say there's also so many like good apps you could get yourself like a set of dumbbells from Amazon and I think I used to use the Evolve You app which you maybe need a few more dumbbells for but there are so many and you can just do that and that is actually fine like it's good enough.

16:11I like to see exercise like sex the more you want. The more you do it the more you do it the more you want and sometimes you think oh god no I'm not that up for it the minute you've done it you think oh that's bloody great. Do you know what as well and you spoke about this before like I think as mums we don't think we can step away to do like to do exercise it has to be done when the kids are at nursery school and it has to be done when they're in bed and they has to be done when you know no one's awake or whatever it is but on Friday we picked the kids up from school and I had an hour and a half between them finishing school and Gigi had tutoring I think and I just said to James I was like I'm gonna go to the gym because what else would I've been doing with that time anyway and you can like just and now I'm like oh there's so many more pockets that I never used to think of as pockets so I'd also look at times when you could step away yeah love that um oh that's nice love you love you girls so much your podcast brighten my day oh this is a good one favorite and least favorite ages with the kids so far favorite ages right now yeah same favorite 100 i'm loving loving parenting at the moment it's really easy and it's the good it's really fun you know it really is least favorite god when i had a two-year-old and a five-month-old baby oh god yeah shudders yeah i i was like i was like a rabbit in headlights yeah that was exhausting yeah that was like three benders in Ibiza and then trying to present a radio show yeah I was gonna say I mean might have got a big rage gap but it was when actually it wasn't Gigi as a baby because she was lovely as a baby it was when she probably turned about 15 months and then I had Axel who was what like three years older but it was lockdown and it was full on like really like difficult he was a lot and so was she and it was just just mentally a lot you remember those days where like a child's puked down your hair one's like shat their nappy no and you're like just thinking what i didn't choose this life do you know what i i remember when i had gg i was adamant axel had to be out of nappies oh yeah before I had her.

18:40Yes, I remember this. And that is the biggest mistake ever. So anyone listening who is expecting a baby and they're thinking, right, I need to get my toddler out of nappies before, don't. No. Because that is such a ball ache. When you're in a cafe or a restaurant or a soft play or anywhere with both of them and you have to start going to the toilet with a toddler, no. You'd rather they just shat in their nappy and you sort it out later. You do not want to be carrying a baby into the toilet having to leave no no no no no no no definitely there you go um if you could interview oh nice question anyone on your amazing podcast uh who would it be love you girls we love you too joe who would it be um i mean we've got a whole list of people but like right now i don't know if you saw jesse nelson from little mix oh god yes jesse yeah her her twins have got that awful muscle degenerative disorder.

19:38And I would love to chat to her to, you know, I guess to raise awareness, but also to see how she is and see how she's coping. So, yeah, I think I'd love to speak to her. Yeah, me too, yeah. Yeah. I'd like Jessie Ware. Oh, yes. Jessie Ware. Write that down, producer Mark. Yeah. Yeah, Jessie Ware would be incredible. Yeah. I met her mum, her mum's ledge. Oh, my God, I love her. Oh, my God. her mum was at the Beyonce concert with me. Was she? Oh, the single ladies. She's so good. She's brilliant. And maybe we could have her on instead. Oh, yeah. We'll take any of the wares. We'll love them. So, yeah, Jessie I'd like on.

20:16And obviously, Michelle Obama still. And Victoria Beckham, because I want to know what's going on. Oh, my God, Victoria Beckham, Davina McCall. Yeah, there's so many people. Can everyone, like, hound these people's Instagram accounts and keep tagging us? Catherine Ryan, she's really funny. I mean, there's actually loads. What we'll do is we'll put a list on our Instagram page of all the people that we're trying to get on. They're not getting back to us. So we need to do a harassment campaign. Sophie Haboo. Yeah, Sophie Haboo. Yeah, Jamie Lang. Right, okay. We're going to put a list out. A bit more planning for 2022.

20:57Yeah, we're going to put a list out. And if you could all hound them, that would be perfect. Georgia, do you wish you had one more child? Georgia do you wish you had one more child Do you wish you'd had Do you wish you'd had one more child I mean I still could Oh yeah you still could I could I'm not going to I keep saying it'd be good for business Yeah no I'm definitely not going to I think I can see why people do I see why people get to this stage Where life is easy And then they think Oh fuck it up again We'll have another one Like my mate Lucy did that and I will not be doing that. No? No, no.

21:39Sure? Sure, yeah. You said you do. I would have had one more. I would have had one more. Imagine four of us, four kids rocking around together and then like six, we'd have like a people carrier. No? No, it doesn't sound good to me. I can't actually go on from there. It would just be the people carrier that I'd want. No, I definitely would have had one more but to be honest with you, by the time I'd had Kit, I was so tired. We did think about it, but Dils had his vasectomy now and I'm obviously in early, well, in the menopause, so it's like it's not happening now. But yeah, I do think about it.

22:15I do think about it. Sometimes for ages when we'd had sex, Dils would look at me and go, that was baby number three right now, wasn't it? And I'd be like, oh God, oh God. But yeah, it's not going to happen. But yeah, I think most people do think like what if. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. And I think you never regret having another child. You might at moments during, you know, 2am when you think, why am I doing this? But yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Because I just think then when do you stop? Like, I don't know. There has to be a cutoff. Yeah. Yeah. And I know for a lot of people, they don't. They just keep going until they can't anymore.

22:50I met someone in Kenya who was pregnant with her sixth. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's a lot. It's a lot. It is. It really is a lot. But she just loves having babies. Yeah. Yeah, and I think as well, this is like really practical, but if I didn't work or James didn't work or then maybe. If money was no object. Yeah, maybe. Because then you could give the time. Because I don't think the kids are the stressful thing. I think it's everything else that is the stressful thing. And then you're taking away from your older kids. I think that's always the thing. I think, oh, if I had a baby now, I'd still have the same workload plus a baby plus trying to get a child into senior school.

23:27I think that's a lot. So yeah, no. Quincy's woken up. Quincy's still with us, guys. She's gone to sleep somewhere else now. We'll be right back after this short break.

23:40Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? Zoe, are you still having breast enlargement? Every time we do a Q &A, someone asks this. I am. I am doing it. 2026? It's happening this year. I've restocked up the boob fund. Oh, there we go then. So the boob fund got spent on the kitchen. It's being tried to be stolen on the drive. Oh. But I'm holding on to it. Yeah. I'm going to do it because they're getting worse. It's possible that they're getting worse. They're getting worse. And every time I look down on them, I just want to cry and play a little tiny violin. So I've got to get them done.

24:22Actually, which is the nicer one? The left one is the nicer one. It's the right one that's really letting the team down. So what I'm going to have to do is have the nipple off. Yeah. And I'm going to have to have the uplift and the implant. It is quite a big operation. And obviously, because of my ACL, I've just been through that, hadn't I? And now I'm all better. I'm ready for another general, guys. No more poo for another seven days after that. Would you ever have one? You've got great boobs though. I don't, yeah. It's not really, it doesn't bother me. No. So no, not at the moment. but never say never.

24:56Give it a few more years. Wait till she hits 40. Yeah. Tips on being a calmer parent, Georgia. I feel like I'm turning into - Why did you say Georgia? It doesn't say Georgia. No, but I'm asking you. Feel like I'm turning into a shouty parent with my toddler. Oh God, please don't give yourself a hard time about that. Yeah, I was going to say, like we just said, toddler age is, I think it's the worst. It is the worst. I'd put it at like 10 years in like an American hardcore prison. No, it is. It's full on. Yeah. Really full on. Tips on being calmer. It's so easy to say, you know, don't sweat the small stuff, take yourself away, have a moment to breathe, all of that stuff.

25:40But ultimately, it's being overstimulated all of the time, the mental load, everything. When you've got a toddler who's basically just screaming at you. Yeah. And like you don't really understand. And I think you really have to look at your days and when you get those little pockets to yourself. I don't think it helps being like, I don't think it's going to solve everything. But I used to find that getting up, you know, before the kids or taking myself off for half an hour, like putting the toddlers in front of the TV, taking myself off for half an hour, just away was the only thing that would fully like make me feel.

26:22calmer yeah because you do it's weird isn't it you're almost in this high alert oh my god um all the time yeah like when you whatever you're doing whether you're in the supermarket in the car driving whatever if you've got toddlers with you oh my god you you feel this i can't describe it and it's not normal to run like your whole life in that constant state of stress so you almost just need to look at little pockets or things you can do and forget about the judgment like whatever whatever it is giving them your phone giving them the ipad putting them in front of the tv like getting away from them whatever it takes i think it's not the time for like rules and regulations i think it's the time for like just doing what you have to do also georgia what that's brilliant advice and also let's be honest they are so irritating yeah they are they They are like tiny terrorists that come at you.

27:21So how are you supposed to function? No wonder you're a shouty parent, as you call yourself. I don't call you that. I think that you are trying to function in high alert, like Georgia said, all the time. So give yourself a break. And also, they're not going to remember. I know you don't want to be shouting, but they're not going to remember that you shouted at them. No. Sometimes I remember if Dozza was downstairs and the kids were like, because they'd hunt you out, right? Yeah. They're like a lioness or a kilt. they're like for you I would lock the door and just barricade myself against the door and just vape aggressively and just be like I'm just dead quiet so they could they'd be like mommy mommy coming at you like some sort of horror movie yeah and then I just stay there quiet yeah until they went away yeah no what you can have to just do yeah do what you can do um how are both your hair Oh, interesting.

28:14How are both your hair so thick and healthy? I'm 43, peri, hair thinning, and I'm a faux blonde. Right. Can I just say, my hair's so thick, so full of extensions. There is absolutely nothing. There's no witchcraft here. I've actually in positive news I've got a lot less hair extensions in I've got a tiny little weft at the back and I've got one on each side and that's it so that is really good my hair is definitely thickening out but that doesn't help with this situation I've found going on HRT has really really helped me because also obviously perimenopausal and I've been using Charpaw which is brilliant I've been using the Charles Worthington stuff which is great but really for me it's like getting enough sleep, drinking enough water and my diet with like green juicing and stuff like that.

29:01All of those things really, really help. And collagen I think has helped as well. I was going to say that. But Georgia, you've got naturally really thick hair. But I'm also not in perimenopause. No, that's true. So I, my hair is thinner than it was definitely pre-kids because I think you always, well, I think as you get older, your hair gets thinner anyway. But I do really notice and it's so weird because I stopped taking collagen for about three weeks and I've noticed the quality of my hair already like it gets greasier quicker um it just doesn't feel as like strong I don't know maybe that might be placebo who knows but I do really think that like taking collagen every day really does make a difference to your hair um but also like there's so many things out there now like scalp treatments like all of this stuff I don't think it was around like five years ago was it or not um accessible like it might have been really expensive um so yeah I think yeah just look at that but also there are like you you would never know you had extensions so there are so many good options out there what do you prefer like is it is it is it plat is it a weft right I prefer a weft I've tried I've tried um everything from the clippings yeah to um obviously the weft which is sewn in I've got to the micro bonds around my face the one that I didn't get on with was the tapes because I felt like when the tapes ripped out or if I caught them, they take quite a lot of hair with them.

30:27But I go to see Hadley Yates. Hadley is an absolute master when it comes to hair extensions. If you are experiencing thinning, even if it's for a temporary period, until you can get all of that sorted. Because for me, it's a chuck everything at it. I don't think there's one miracle wonder which will sort it out. You know, this is the stage of the life that we're at at the moment. But definitely you can go into Hadley for a consultation. He's based out of central London. But yeah, it's worth giving him a call if you're thinking of that. But also, I think we don't realize how much color and bleach we're putting on our hair.

30:57You know, if like a faux blonde, you've probably had highlights your whole life. Yeah. And maybe that's something to think about and look at as well. Yeah, I was going to say, because I used to have highlights every six weeks, I think it was. Six to eight weeks, like religiously, like never miss an appointment, just in, in, in. And then the last year, I now probably only have my hair color three times a year. Yeah, great. You've got more of a root stretch though, haven't you? Yeah. and I think that you can do you know look at other ways of I guess or like go to Aveda they do like more natural um color yeah it doesn't damage your hair so much there's loads of options um things you're leaving behind in 2025 alcohol yeah for now for now yeah alcohol I'm I'm on the dry jan buzz but I'm just gonna see where it goes I've obviously been toying with sobriety for quite a long time I don't think that I'm going to be sober forever but I do would like I I'm leaving behind the feeling of not having the balance if that makes sense yeah the balance was was way onto the excessive side as I am and actually Doza said something to me when we were in away in Kenya which really has stayed with me and it sort of summed up perfectly that he said I'm not interested in the middle and I was like what do you mean by that and he was like I like the peaks and I like the troughs.

32:19And that is the perfect way to describe myself as well. And that's why him and I can blow up in this massive, like, fucking hell, there's Mount Fuji going off again. Because it's the middle part. It's not the mundaneness, but the balance. And, like, being okay with not, you know, staying up to whatever time or not going to bed at 8.30. Like, we've got to be okay with the middle. And that's what I'm trying to find in 2026 is more of that, being okay with the calm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you, George? What am I leaving behind in 2025? I don't know. I am leaving behind getting caught up in all of the, like, small stuff.

33:01Okay. Like, really, I am. And also, I'm leaving behind saying yes to plans and cancelling. So what are you going to do now? Just say no. Quick no is better than a fake yes. Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. No, I really am. I really, really am. I'm being way stricter with stuff like that. Because I've realized that, why do we do things we don't want to do? I know. I don't understand. I don't do it. And then you dread it. And then, yeah, no. I think, yeah, that's mine. Not sweating the small stuff. You're just so right on that. Like, sometimes I'll message her and be like, what are you doing today?

33:35And she'll be like, I'm away with Mrs. Foo-Foo fans in, like, doing X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, you having a nice time? She's like, no. I'm like, why are you there then? Poor Mrs. Foo-Foo fans, whatever it is. She sounds like a real laugh. She sounds great. Oh, my God. Holiday plans for this year. Posh and budget-ish. That's from Emily. Posh and budget-ish. You start because I think you've got more plans. I have not. Have you not? Okay. We're going skiing in February, February half term. We're going to Morzine. We booked through Mountain Extra and we got a really good deal on an apartment. We're driving down.

34:09Was that the one that was like loads cheaper than on Airbnb? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that was good. That's a really nice way of doing it. You pay for the shuttle, which was because the flights were like three and a half thousand to get us all down there. So we did the shuttle and we're driving. It takes 12 hours from door to door. We spend the night in like a little village, sort of not a couple of hours out of the mountains. And then we drive up on the Saturday morning and we're in resort by 10. So we're trying to do skiing on a budget is impossible. But we are now working out, working it out. So doing that.

34:42and then maybe a trip to the Maldives. That hasn't been confirmed yet, but let's manifest it. We're going away. Yeah, we might be going to Aphrodite Hills. I went in the summer and there's a football camp, so we might be going with the kids, might we? We're not going to go to Ibiza for our family holiday this year. You're not? No. Oh. You did say this? No, no, hang on. You said this last year and then you went. This is different. Okay. We're not going this year. Where are you going? Don't know. Don't know. I haven't booked anything yet. So I'm open to suggestions. What are you looking for? Ibiza.

35:20But not. No, we're looking for more of like an active holiday with water sports and games to play and like sport every day and that type of thing. Cool. Portugal? Portugal. Yeah. Go to Quinta. I lost my V plates in Portugal. Did you? Oh my God, I never admitted that. Oh, that's so funny. Let's not use this as the trick. I want to go back. Alba Fira. Alba Fira. Is that the classy part? Oh, yeah. No, it's so bad, isn't it? No, it's definitely not. So back to the old, back to where the magic happened. I haven't been back since. Have you not? No. Oh, well, there we go. Got to go back. Alba Fira, here we come.

36:00Alba Fira, yeah. What about you? So I'm going to Disneyland Paris with Judy in February when she's doing her little show. I'm contemplating taking her to Paris after because the show finishes on a Thursday and then we could potentially stay and like I don't know go I don't know listen yeah that would be so nice maybe we'll do that just even just have a day and a night there then March potentially Aphrodite Hills and then we are in two minds whether to go skiing again because that will be our second time going skiing and I was chatting to you about, you know, do we do a chalet? Like we did an all-inclusive hotel before.

36:44I don't know. Or going to Abu Dhabi again because we know what we're getting and it'll be chill. And so we might do that. And then May half term, we might go to Portugal. And then... And then? So who's going away the most? Yeah. Well, these are not books. None of these are books, by the way. These are on our wish list. And then we are looking for somewhere to go in the school holidays. that's not mental because that is the problem isn't it like anywhere is completely crazy we've got to get ahead of god to get out of it but even you were doing it the other day and what's it coming up oh my god that was for easter to abu dhabi so we normally go to this same hotel and if we went on the friday including flights and like a nice room it was six thousand pounds for ten nights which is still a lot of money right i know that's a lot of money but it is like really lovely if we went the day after it was 29 what like sorry what that no sorry how is how is the travel industry still going i i cannot get my head around it and it really puts me off um so there's been a go on a friday yeah go on a monday i don't know what that's gonna be but um yeah so we're sort of looking at maybe driving to like the south of france yeah and And like there's one of my friends stayed in this chateau last summer.

38:05Sounds casual. No, it's almost like little lodges in the grounds of the chateau. I don't know, something a bit more like that where you can make the most of the weather. And I don't know. We're open to suggestions, gang. We are open to suggestions. Should we finish on Kerry's? Yeah, go on. Do you have Botox? And if so, are you worried about how harmful it may be? I'm on the fence. We both have Botox. Botox. I'm not worried about the harm. No. Same. I'm out here making my own tortillas because of the chemicals in it, but I'm not worried about injecting poison into my face. Oh, no, no. Wrap from the supermarket.

38:44Fuck off. Botox. Plug me up. I mean, it's balanced, right? It's balanced. I do, right. I do think, right, maybe it's bad for you. It might be harmful. No, it is bad for you. Yeah. Yeah. But you have to just pick your battles, don't you? Because I think if you, I remember years ago, like I used to work in a PR agency where you had to have the newspapers every morning. So everyone had to sit around in the morning. We'd all read the newspapers. And we did this thing where we cut out everything that gave you cancer, the Daily Mail said. And we kept a file of it, like for a bit of a joke. And by the end of the year, I think there was like apples left or something.

39:27like it was mental it was mental and I think there's so much that is bad for you and I'm sure it is and you just have to pick I think what you like you know what you think what you don't and what you want to ignore what George is saying is essentially we are not giving up Botox we're not giving up on Botox okay Botox is a firm a firm resident and I think that's absolutely fine and everyone says like oh what's your secret what's this and i'm like it's botox sorry you don't have to spend 200 pounds on a face cream no it's not gonna do what botox does no it's 12 hours sleep in in a needle yeah yeah it is in like literally 10 minutes there isn't anything else to be said i can't wait i'm so glad we're doing this podcast today because i'm having my botox this week god i need to have no expression yeah i need to have you don't your skin looks no okay way too much movement exactly i was liking it for a little while and then i was like no but we have decided that we don't really like it around our eyes because it makes us look a bit weird you have to be startled you have to firstly find we're joking jokes aside find somebody that you totally trust that's come as a recommendation um i go to paula um from clinical cosmetics she's based out of woking and she's incredible she she's was a nurse by trade so i just trust her completely with my face and secondly really go steady if it's your first time and figure it out and work out the way that your face moves because what works for somebody might not work for you exactly and yeah less is more for sure except for when you get to my age and then more is more just keep putting um thank you so much for sending in all of your questions for today's podcast it's been an absolute treat answering them as always we'd love you to rate review subscribe and please give our podcast to follow yeah and if there are any topics you'd like us to cover or go further into then drop us a dm on instagram we're on at mobile mummers and we'll be back on tuesday