Friday Q&A on Your Scandalous Anonymous Confessions

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1:05And they're on Tuesdays and Fridays. And it really helps if you leave a rating and a review. You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummers. But for now, George, should we get into it? It's Friday. How are you? Yay, it's Friday. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm coming to the end of a really lovely, wonderful, amazing week on Heart because the lovely Pandora, she never takes off any time. So she never goes away on holiday. She never takes a break from the radio. I know. Literally hasn't had a break the whole year. So I never get to cover her show anymore. So everyone at heart was like, please, will you take a week off?

1:40I'm going to rest. Which means I've got the call up. So I've just done her show for five days, which has been so nice. Yeah, really lovely. And the kids are obviously back to school, which I was a bit sad about. I had such a nice half term with them. so I did and I didn't go on I liked it I liked it but we normally make plans and or normally go away or no and my kids had a week and a half and I think that extra bit was a bit too much right we were a bit bored in the end like well they not they were bored but you know like the weather's a bit crap like it I don't know I don't know I need to find the balance between not planning too much yes but actually doing something there we go yeah do you know what and actually there was a part of me that was thinking I've actually taken three days off work here but we stayed at home we went to like the forest and we went for a bike ride and you know we went somewhere else and did I can't remember shopping but I thought I was like this is a bit of a waste you know i don't know i was sort of tussling with the idea is it a waste or actually is this just normal life and this is what we should be doing more of because every time there's a half-term holiday we can't be like i'll tell you what i'll drop a couple of grand and go somewhere on holiday just doesn't work like that no no that do you know what that's so right and actually it's a conversation like james and i've had because he gets normal like annual leave now you know like he's got a you know a normal job and he gets a holiday which he's never had before and he doesn't really understand like the concept of it and so how rude why don't you just take a few days off like during half time he's like yeah i know but what are we doing and i'm like well no i know i know what you're saying he's like i don't want to take time off just to do nothing and i get it but equally doesn't everyone crave a little bit of doing nothing sometimes yeah it's yeah it's that balance isn't it i don't know i saw this quote on instagram where it was like if i sit on my sofa in my hoodie and tracksuit bottoms that haven't been washed for five days watch telly eat biscuits drink a cup of tea it's nobody's fucking business but myself yeah fucking right but it just doesn't happen like it literally just doesn't happen like it's not yeah and maybe that is you're right there in the actually just doing the mundane stuff is good and probably important for kids to do as well I don't know of course it is of course it is um and I think our kids benefit from it in the long run you know like I I don't know there's always that thing my kids are probably um getting used to the fact that we're just you know we're here and that's what we're doing like today you just got to go and entertain yourselves they've really got into that simply draw thing which was really good we were doing arts and crafts we went for a bike ride in the forest it was like proper stuff that didn't cost any bloody money yeah which is impossible actually to find or do I mean I've got one child who will who actually enjoys helping me at home you know like wants to unload the dishwasher with me wants to like be helpful and then the other one that like literally just doesn't who you mean yeah yeah can you guess any guesses and literally looks like why on earth would you do that like you absolute weirdo that is so odd why would you want to help um but that's the sort of thing i've been trying to get them into this half term like you know like just doing like normal stuff who was talking about this going we shouldn't reward our kids with pocket money or you know extra pocket money if they do things like make their bed or you know bring their plates up from the table and put it on the side that's not that's just life skills yeah that they have to fucking do like there's no you know we're not gonna oh yeah you get extra pocket money if you help mommy with this it's like no no you should be putting your washing into piles and helping me out and bringing bringing them down like i'm very i'm quite hot on that i would love to know whose kids are like really domesticated because i Myling Class's kids.

5:37Yeah, okay. Apart from Myling Class's kids, I'd love to know anyone listening. Who has got kids that make their beds? Because Gigi does, I'd say, 70 % of the time. Axel does 0.100 % of the time. Really? No, he just wouldn't do that. He just won't. I can't describe it to you. I could say it to him. I could bribe him with anything, and he just would not do that. Like, he just wouldn't. There's just no chance. Like, even just, he is just the ultimate, like, slob, like, when it comes to things like that. Like, he would just drop a rapper on the floor. No, Georgia. No, no, but I watch him do it, and I'm like, Axl?

6:24And he goes, oh, yeah, sorry, I forgot. And you're like, how? He's Wayne and Wayne Etta. He's Wayne and Wayne Etta slob. How did you forget? Like, I don't understand, but he's like, He can remember flipping Bobby, who he met seven years ago's birthday, but he can't remember to put a wrapper in a bin. So this must come down to the muscle memory stuff that every parenting expert tells us about. It's like training a puppy. You just have to be completely consistent with them, make them do it, walk them to the bin. But it's so exhausting, isn't it? By the time you've done that, you just think, I'll sod it, I'm just going to pick it up myself.

6:58I can't be asked. Yeah, I don't know what it is. But anyway, yeah, that's I'm pleased they're back to school because I'm not picking up bloody Harrybo packets from the floor. So, yeah, we wanted to start because obviously the kids are back at school and you guys have probably had quite an intense week to 10 days off with them. We wanted to do a Friday Q &A on sending in your most kind of outrageous, I guess, kind of parenting moments that you would feel maybe slightly ashamed to admit to your friends, potentially, even though there's no shame or no judgment on this podcast. us you could send them in to us anonymous and we would anonymously and we would read them out so george let's kick us off as always you haven't failed to disappoint us gang no you really haven't and i'm gonna kick us off with this one it's not a question it's just funny um when my grandson was three years old i was changing with him in the room he pointed out and said nana you have fur i said calmly everyone has fur and he said my mama got no fur i have never told anyone before oh god well fair play to her she's been going for the extreme brazilian yeah i mean that mom exactly but yeah but i think kids that's the problem isn't it with kids they just say what they see um as we've all been probably in many situations before like i've been in a changing room before with axel and the family ones and he's pointed and shouted like why is that why does that what did he say something like why does that man's willy look so shrunk or something like yeah it was made no sense and james was absolutely mortified at that point oh yeah he's like james went run off um at the top of his voice like horrific so yes i think we've all had embarrassing moments do you remember when kit when i bent down and kit said um mommy why is your banny hanging out and he basically diagnosed my prolapse vagina remember oh my god oh my god he knew before you knew i was like fuck my bunny shouldn't be hanging out i must go and see the fucking doctor um okay let's go on to this one this one had us in stitches i've always i don't know if i can say i've always fancied my brother-in-law oh my god did i marry the wrong brother oh my god right this isn't from my friend I thought it might be from my friend I've got a friend that's like this wow I mean oh I doubt yeah I think potentially you might have done maybe or maybe you just have like is that a thing of like you you always like want what you can't have maybe oh my god I guess they're probably quite similar because being brothers you think and it but I've got to say if there's never been a fantasy of mine to go with two brothers but i do have a hysterical story about somebody that i used to date who got into a situation with his brother where he ended up having a threesome with him and he said everything was going fine until his elder brother said to him mid threesome said to the girl sorry mid threesome oh yeah suck my little brother's dick and at that point he went oh my fucking god get me the hell out of it like it was at that point that the shutters just came down and he was like this is weird this is way too close to the bone he said he just left and left them to it yeah i'm yeah i think that is that is weird i mean i don't think that is what this listener is written that in for i mean maybe maybe she has i mean if she penses the brother she wants yeah she just maybe she doesn't know what she wants but i think listen hey you've married you've married a brother and until um you know you're you're in the summer I turn pretty, that will be the only brother that you will be with.

10:45Oh my God, yeah. Okay? You've got to get over it. But also, you're only probably seeing the good side of this brother-in-law. And so he's like, do you know what I mean? You're probably seeing his best side. Oh, yeah. But you're not seeing all the bad stuff. Christmases, parties, all that kind of stuff. He looks like the Suaves put together brother. It's probably quite fun to have a crush. You know, that's all right. Just don't tell anyone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep that to yourself. Yeah. Someone's actually asked us what our thoughts are on weight loss medication. Oh, that's interesting. Okay, do you want to go first or shall I?

11:21I mean, I don't mind. I sort of don't really have an opinion on it. I sort of feel like if that's what you want to do and you're not getting it from somewhere dodgy and you're going down the right channels, then I sort of think fine like that's yeah like yeah that's what you I think each to their own like I think it is scary that you know people are doing it and going too far I think I've seen we probably all know somebody yeah who has done that and I think that's really scary but then equally I know a lot of people that it's really helped and really like transformed their confidence transformed their way of eating man like they've got the weight off so then they've got the confidence to take up a sport or go to the gym or you know like do all these things so I'm so in the middle like I just think as long as something is done sensibly like you're getting advice from proper medical professional professionals and you're safe I don't know that's kind of where I sit yeah I I actually agree with you George I think the only thing that makes me worried is from somebody that used to have a really bad eating disorder I know what it feels like to have your to be I guess to be fighting with the the sort of the demon devil side of things sorry the angel devil side of things where you're like you know it basically cuts your hunger so you don't experience hunger anymore and I just remember you know how dangerous things start getting when that happens and and you know it's like it's great if you are a certain weight and you can't lose the weight and I think you need it like you said to kind of kick start things and kick start your fitness and kick start potentially getting your portion sizes under control or whatever it is that you battle with but I think it becomes dangerous when you you know you then have to continually take it and it starts eating away at your muscle which is what it does and that's why people talk about the isempic face or the weight loss medication face which it sort of everything starts to become concave and then what happens when you come off it because at a certain point you can't be taking medication you know every single day for the rest of your life in my opinion but I think if it teaches you healthy habits around that yeah then then great and as you said George it really is completely up to you I just I don't want us to be promoting super skinny again and I'm seeing quite a lot of that yeah yeah things are turning that way again and that that does worry me a little bit we'll be right back after this short break

14:05welcome back to this episode of made by mamas now where were we someone here has just put does it ever get any fucking easier i think i'm sorry it doesn't it doesn't oh i thought you're gonna say it does i think it doesn't it doesn't i i definitely think bigger kids bigger decisions Yeah, I mean, 100 percent. Bigger kids, bigger problems. I mean, I'm 12 years old. I mean, it's absolute warfare. I haven't told you what happened over sort of like the first bit of half term. It was just chaos. It was awful. It was awful. And what's really interesting is it's so it's quite triggering for me. I find it quite difficult because it reminds me of the sort of like girls at school that weren't particularly nice to me.

14:50And suddenly I'm being dealt a card where I know that she loves me, but actually I'm really irritating to her and everything that I say she doesn't like anymore. And so we end up having these massive rows over nothing. And it's like, how have I got myself into this situation? Yeah. So I do think there's a sweet spot between the ages of maybe six and 11 where it's just, that's just dreamy. And that's where we're at with our younger two, aren't we? Yeah, I was going to say that. I was going to say, I think right now is a really nice time. But as you approach certain like things that happen, like, you know, school decisions, smartphone decisions, like, you know, building independence, like that kind of stuff, then it's just a different.

15:38It's I think it's physically easier, but mentally harder. That's what I would say. Right. Yes. Yes, exactly. You're not as knackered. Like you're not, you know, they don't physically need you as much, but mentally they do. Yes, I agree with you, George. Yeah, well put. Yeah. We've got to read this story. It is unbelievable. So I'm going to read it. So my absolute darkest secret that my parents and husband don't even know, but my friends from school do, is that I went to a very prestigious boarding school in Canada when I was 16 to 18 years old. At the end of term each year, the teachers and graduating class would all go to the local bar.

16:27We were in a small town and have a few drinks. It was highly exciting as you have to be 19 in Ontario. Is that Ontario? And none of us were. So the teachers would buy us a few rounds. All very tame but exciting. What was more titillating was that some of the younger teachers, essentially teachers who were still in training and so had been working at the school as sports coaches, teaching assistants that year and were in their early 20s, came along and we really fancied some of them and had been flirting shamelessly with them for over a year. As it got later and later, me and my friend ended back at the teacher's digs, which were on school property, doing you know what with these men, before stumbling back to our boarding house at 3am and greeting our parents for graduation ceremony that afternoon.

17:20Oh my God. Oh no. Why we thought we'd been so covert. We obviously hadn't and were spotted by senior management. The two teachers involved were promptly fired and for all we know blacklisted from getting their teacher's licenses as they would not have got any references from their year working there. We got off scot-free and headed into summer holidays and uni without a care in the world. But Jesus, I will take that to my grave because even now at 40, it makes me die to think how upset my parents would be if they found out what happened on school premises. And sad times, the following year, there were no more teacher-student drinking shenanigans pre-graduation.

18:03Shagging guns. Yeah, shaggants. Shagging guns. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. I think we need to say that it was the 90s and that's kind of, I mean, if you hear that story now, you're like, right, they're going to prison. But this is not, this is not, that was a different time. No, and obviously they're over 16. Older, exactly. They're over 16 to 18. Oh my God. So it is legal age. I mean, right. That is hysterical. When you were 16, like, when I was 16, and it, like, could, you know, I was out, like, in bars and whatever. I know you shouldn't be, but we were. Like, you could get into clubs when you were 16 before they, like, got crazy with ID.

18:46You would meet guys who were in their 20s all the time. Oh, yeah, all the time. And I guess essentially that's what that is. but it's just that I mean it's a great story it's a fucking great story thank you so much whoever sent that in that is absolutely brilliant and also listen I mean thank god it's not us doing these confessions otherwise I'd probably be cancelled oh god the other night my husband rubbed my shoulders I almost fell asleep midway through the massage that's how wild it got what do I do oh god that's quite nice I'd like to fall asleep to a massage yeah but I'm not sure that's what he was thinking he was gonna know no I know but that that's nice for her yeah yeah nice for her not so nice for him but you know what I think there's something also in that before you start thinking there's like hell hole and it's you know it's it's freezing over I do think sometimes that That is something that maybe our partners, if you're in a heterosexual relationship, don't quite understand that sometimes just having that physical touch and doing a massage or foot rub or like just falling asleep on each other's chest.

19:59Me and Doz did that the other night. It was really nice. I didn't need anything else. I wasn't up for anything else. I didn't want anything else. I just wanted that. So I don't know. I think maybe obviously you don't want to do that every night. Some nights you want to get thrown around. But like, you know, very rarely. Yeah. No, no, no. No, that's what I was going to say. And also, if you go back and listen to any of our sex experts, bar maybe Dr. Tara, but any of the ones who have sort of come on and talked about intimacy in general, they would say that is being intimate and that is amazing for your relationship.

20:35So in all seriousness, I wouldn't worry about that. And that's quite nice. Yeah. Yeah, exactly what Georgia said. I don't think you need to worry too much about it unless it's been going on for months and months and months. And what do they say? how long is it you have to not have sex for three months until you're in a sexless marriage something like that yeah or like your room I don't know I think it's longer than that I can't remember but yes it is it's a long time we've actually got another one here which is it's sort of relationship um centered um my husband said to me that he wanted to take me somewhere exciting at the weekend I thought he was taking me on a date and he took me to Costco on a Saturday.

21:14I'd love that. And that's what we did, the two of us. No, that's fucking shit. No, I would love that. No, you'd, what, go and buy some giant tomato ketchup? Yeah. No. No, right. This weekend, right, we went to a Halloween party on Saturday. It was a Halloween wedding, actually, on Saturday. And we both made a pact with each other. We were like, right, let's not drink. Let's just, like, go have a bit of fun. What a rubbish pact. Let's not drink. Right. Well, James did not stick to that pact, okay? James was like Larry James. And I was smug Georgia, as in everyone thought I was drinking, but I wasn't.

21:53Why would you not have a few drinks, though, just out of curiosity? Because I just didn't really want to. I just didn't feel like it. I was just like, oh, I just don't want to wake up tomorrow feeling bad. Anyway, we had no kids, so that was fine. We got home like one-ish, whatever, woke up the next day. and um james got up and he was like i'm gonna organize the pantry and i was like what this is my dream this is all my dreams coming true he was like what what and i was like no no i don't think you've ever made me so happy in your entire like in our life and we spent our child-free morning watching cookery programs and organising and organising the pantry and I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

22:45I couldn't believe it. I was like, where have you been in my life? This is like... I don't even know where to start. This is what I've always wanted. I'm not even sure what to say. And it was so nice. So maybe I should be married to your husband because I think Costco is a great morning out. Yeah, genuinely. You guys should swap. Yeah, we should. You should do a bloody husband swap. Yeah, I mean, listen, George. You do what you do. Each to their own. But were you turned on by it? I was, actually. Oh, fucking hell. That's a turn up for the book. I was, well, no, let's not go that far. I was very pleased.

23:26I was very, very pleased. I didn't have the ick. I was like, that is, this is just so, it makes me so happy. That's how I felt. And listen, and that's the difference between being a mother of two in your late 30s to being in your early 20s where you thought the idea of having a pantry made you want to vomit. But now this is what gets us off now. I'm fucking, I need to, what? What is going on with us? Someone came around to my house the other day and they were like, oh my God, I love your little glass bottles with the labels on. And I was like, what do you mean? And she was like, this is my dream.

23:59And I was like, literally, there's herbs in there that haven't been used. I don't even know where we got them from. But everyone else is getting their rocks off about it. Well, exactly. And that's the thing, isn't it? You know, maybe that's what this guy thought. He was like, you know what? I've seen these women on Instagram. All they want is a trip to Costco. That's what I'm going to do. And he would be right for a lot of people. Oh, God. I would love that. Well, listen, if Georgia and James ever split up and you know someone that wants to try and date Georgia, we know the way to her heart now because she said it openly on the podcast.

24:34That brings us to the end of today's podcast. Thank you so much for sending in all of your amazing confessions. What an absolute giggle it's been today. As always, we'd love you to rate, review, subscribe and please, please, please give our podcast a little follow. And if you've got any feedback on this episode or any experts you'd like to hear from, then drop us a DM on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mamas and we'll be back on Tuesday.

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