Friday Q&A: Samantha Silver on Skincare, Splurges & What's Worth It

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1:44You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummers. But for now, George, should we get into it? Hello and welcome to Friday's episode of the podcast. Very, very exciting day today because, as you know, if you've been listening to Georgia and I for a long period of time, we absolutely love talking about beauty. It's one of our favourite things to talk about on and off the podcast. So today we thought we'd get an absolute expert with nearly 20 years of experience. Is that right? Yeah, no, it sounds so old. It makes me feel so old. Previously this mothership, but she's gone off on her own and made a huge success of it.

2:19It's Samantha Silva. Yay, Sam. Thanks for having me. How are you? Thanks for being here. I'm good. This is so lovely. This is, your podcast studio is so snazzy. It's snazzy. I remember filming it on Zoom before with you guys a few years ago. Yes, and also when we went to, we saw you in real life and I was pregnant with Gigi, I think I just found out. Yes. And I felt like death. When was that? As in we filmed then? Like years ago. Like seven years ago. Yeah, seven years ago it would have been. Yeah, isn't that wild? I looked at Georgia that day and I was like, you look ashen. Yeah. you are pregnant and she was like I'm not and we were like let's go and do a pregnancy test and she is that how you found out together in Bill's um toilet I love that there we go but just for those who don't know your background you just want to give them a little insight into okay so I have been beauty editor for 20 years um I have worked I worked my way up magazines you You might remember Company Magazine, Grazia Magazine.

3:22I was the piece director at Stylist Magazine. I was there for about 10 years. And then I left 10 years ago to kind of produce beauty content, fashion content online. And here I am now still doing that. Do people, because obviously when you become a mother, you just become even more tired. The most tired you've ever felt in your entire life. Do people come up to you constantly being like, please tell me which products I have to use to make myself look less knackered? two questions I get asked the most how do I not look tired and is that hair all your own yeah I was going to say I thought you asked one of them is that hair all your own yeah they're the two questions I get asked the most and what is the answer to which yes it's all your own yes it's all my own and how not to look tired you basically need the perfect pairing of you need a corrector and you need a good concealer and then you need a good pair of sunglasses.

4:20And you need not to have children. We've got loads of questions, Sam. So let's get into them because I want to make sure we bash all these ones out today. Let's start on that first one. You just mentioned under eye concealer. So under eye concealer recommendation, please. Or maybe like a trio or whatever product. So for me, the key to this is layering a corrector underneath your concealer. so the corrector in the innermost parts of the eye where you're darkest is going to color correct those purple tinges from the dark circles and then your corrector your concealer is going to have an easier job when it comes to brightening the eye area okay so we need two if we're gonna if we have really bad dark circles if we're really exhausted you need those two together give us some brands okay beauty pie under eye under eye corrector i cannot tell you how many of these i have gone through as in literally used up so there's nothing in there um i use shade light medium it's unreal the og was the becca do you remember yeah oh my god yes but they don't that doesn't exist it was discontinued yeah so this is one of the best ones um bobby brown have a stick version which is quite easy if you don't want to use a pot and a brush yeah that's also good and then in terms of um concealer i love the charlotte tilbury airbrush vanish i think it's called um estee lauder double wear unreal um and elf actually do a really good one if you're looking for more of a budget oh i've not tried that but i like an elf product yeah yeah really elf's brilliant so the corrector is the one that i probably forget about and then when i see george and I always say to you, you don't have any.

6:03And she's like, I'm using a corrector. You always use a corrector. Yeah, I'd probably offer you a recommendation. It's like a holy grail product. And you don't realise you need it until you use it. And then you're like, this is unreal. Yeah. And I use the corrector around my nose as well. Yeah, same. Any redness as well. Your skin is looking particularly beautiful today, Josh. You look really wide awake. Oh. Notice she looks straight at you. This is great. I'm just bearing in mind that. You do. You look like chewy and glossy. It's called near death. um what are the best retinol let's talk about retinols okay what are the best retinols out there for newbies any good budget friendly options please because as we know retinol can be historically quite expensive yes um the higher concentration of retinol you use the price it will get purely because you're paying for the science um retinol is amazing cannot recommend it enough our age does everything that you need it to do in our 40s in our 40s um it will you know reduce your fine lines it will even out your skin tone it will boost your collagen it does everything that we want it to do my favorite retinol is medicates oh me too it's so good what level are you on the highest are you i'm on 20 i need to get 24 oh i'm on 20 yes same is that not the highest there's 24 oh god when we finish 20 we can move on to 24 okay fine yeah good good so that starts I think it's level one, which is around 20 pounds, I think.

7:28And then you climb the ladder. Basically, when you finish that one, you move to three, six, nine. Yeah. And you climb the ladder up as your skin is getting more used to it. So, yeah. So what do we go from 24, though, Sam? I don't know. There's no there's no return after that. Literally nowhere to go. You hit the peak. However, Caroline Hirons, Skin Rocks. I think she's just released a retinol 3, which is for diehard retinol users, so we could maybe jump over to hers. Because I don't even get any, not reaction, but some people use it and they're like, oh, I've used a bit of retinol, I've got a bit of retinol.

8:04Yes, nothing happens. A zoki bit. Nothing. Is there anyone who shouldn't use retinol? You can't use retinol when you're breastfeeding. Right. But apart from that, everyone can use it. Start low, like we said, on number one, Cristal Retinol, well, that's Medicates. you start low and you build up and your skin builds up its tolerance to it use a pea size amount once twice three times a week you must use an spf in the morning that is the key thing um and yeah are there any budget are there any budget options because obviously medicate is i mean you said look if you start off using whatever the first one is and then it does get more expensive but are there any on the high street yeah there are i think the ordinary is a really good brand CeraVe as well um L 'Oreal Paris actually have some really good retinols um the secret is that when you use a brand like L 'Oreal Paris even though it's kind of more on the high street 20-30 pounds their parent company owns SkinCeuticals and Lancome and those really expensive high-end luxury brands so they have the kind of ingredients and the recipe but they're they can just use smaller quantities of it.

9:20So you're getting that kind of high-tech skincare at a lower price. Oh, what good intel. I knew she'd be good. Yes. And are microneedling treatments or chemical peels worth the money? So I had a treatment two weeks ago, and it was a Medicaid crystal retinol facial by Dr. Motox. I think it was the best facial that I've ever had. Wow. Okay. You can have it nationwide. Go on the Medicaid website, put in your postcode. It will send you to your local practitioner. And in it was a chemical peel that they put on. It was like a tingling sensation for 10 minutes. Then they took it off. The glow afterwards.

10:06And I filmed it. And every day for four days, it just kept getting better and better and better. Call us. Yeah. We will call you. because you won't call it i'm keen for that because you do you have any facials yeah so i have a face i try and have a facial once a month but more just for a good cleanse yeah i'm not looking for like you know mental results i'm literally looking for just like a deep cleanse just a basic facial or i'll have like one of those sort of face gym-esque facials before an event like a lymphatic cheek lifting i don't do oh my god i went for a hydrafacial not that long ago and it was awful when you see but no it was awful the person I went to I end up with scratches all over my face so I am really um cautious yeah about where I go for things and I think that's the thing isn't it you have to do you know what so this is really interesting so I was chatting to a friend about this the other day and sometimes it's actually not what you're going for but who you're going to see right because you know there's a lot of talk at the moment about lasers and people having all of these lasers and I'm seeing them all over Instagram and the afters and the results I've actually been to a really reputable person in the industry to have this laser and I had a really bad reaction to it really so it it's not necessarily about what it is it's who does it or who doesn't have you had moxie yeah so i was chatting to my makeup artist about it yesterday and she was saying to me i don't really i don't really get the hype but this is it you see i think they've got a really good marketing hype going on at the moment it's all over instagram yeah it's not is it worth it yeah yeah i literally don't know anyone i know quite a few people have been for it and no one says they would do it again really yeah but but we're like we've been like oh my god we want to have it done we want to have it done yeah but then i've changed my mind yeah yeah no um best primer for 40 plus skin oh primer is primer still a thing i don't think primer is a need i think primer is a want like if you want to use a primer then use one why would you use one what would be the benefit to keep your makeup on longer personally i like a setting spray me too so i would rather use a setting spray i think that which one do you guys use charlotte tilbury yeah charlotte tilbury do you know what i don't use setting sparrow just use like a hyaluronic acid over the top of my skin that's it give you a glow it's working for you i sometimes feel like when you put a primer on your skin can go a bit muted yes yeah a bit matte yeah and a bit blurry yeah and actually we want that remember that benefit one back in the day yes kind of your you could feel all the silicone yeah all over your skin yeah yeah i think primer might be a bit 10 years ago yeah but i get it if this doesn't want to say brown vitamin enriched a bit like magic cream as well like they're really good faces that grip onto your makeup yeah but they're not necessarily a primer yeah okay yeah love that cool um best vitamin c and to take collagen or not there's two questions there okay let's do collagen so collagen is a really divisive subject yeah um there are so many studies to say that it makes a huge difference to women especially over 40 when you know your collagen levels start to deplete perimenopause hormone or all those things and then there's uh skin doctors who basically say there's not enough and normal doctors yeah and not enough science behind it you have to i think try these things and you have to go with what you think because you could be in either camp personally if you're going to take it and you're going to be if you're going to commit you can't take it once or twice and be like I didn't see a difference so I'm not going to do it you have to take it for a few months until you start to see a difference all I can say is I have been taking the absolute collagen powder in my morning coffee wisdom and people have started to ask if I have extensions so yeah you know I've seen results you might not see results you might not be using the right one for you I know justina swears by Vida glow collagen yeah um and then there's some people who've tried it and they haven't seen a difference I mean I would used to be a member of this other granny gym I only go to granny gyms um and there were women in there and they were like swearing by collagen for their aches and pains yeah like and they were like oh you know i've been to see physios for my shoulder and and then since i started taking collagen it doesn't hurt anymore and you think well that i mean even if it is in their mind it still worked yeah even if it's a placebo you're not going to do any damage by taking it and you might find results i think what the thing i think the thing is that when you take it you can't say i want this collagen to make my nails strong I want this collagen to make my hair longer it goes where it needs to go so it goes where you have the most need for it in that respect so you just have to kind of take it for a few few months and then see if you're seeing what blows my mind is and I don't understand how this can't scientifically be proven we know that collagen depletes yeah in women over the age of what 35 40 it starts dropping off dramatically so what I can't understand is is that why are people not screaming for the rooftops going we've done these studies and actually women that do take collagen consistently you know they then have more collagen in their body so things start to rejuvenate again there are like there are those two camps so you do have the camp that the studies say that but then the doctors still kind of the science doesn't stand up enough there's no and they love a bit of science don't they there's bovine and is it marine yeah so bovine comes from cows yeah marine comes from fish and then you have vegan collagen as well.

16:07Yeah. Which I actually have no idea where that comes from. No, it comes from the plant. Not sure I trust the vegan collagens as much as the bovine and the marine. I take so much collagen, I've got it coming out my arse. Which one do you like? I take collo, which is Jenny Faulkner's one. I take corexico, which I absolutely love. I've started taking that. I absolutely love. Because that does not taste of anything. No, but that's marine. I love that. That doesn't taste of anything. For a while I was taking wheel powders, but that was bovine. I've stopped taking that now. so I literally I'm like oh it's got collagen in it whack it in yeah okay so we're team collagen we're team collagen team collagen and then vitamin C yeah let's talk vitamin C I love vitamin C if you want glowier brighter stronger skin you need to be layering a vitamin C in the morning underneath your SPF and it's you know over 30 I think we should all be using vitamin C it's going to make a real difference it's an antioxidant it fights free radicals So all of the pollutants, anything on our skin that's trying to age it, essentially, it creates a shield and it bats them all away.

17:13Great. So your three-step morning routine, just break it down for me. And if you can chuck in any brands that you love. Okay. So we cleanse. Hot oil cleanse? Morning cleanse, cleanse whatever you love, whatever you like. You could even do a micellar cleanse. I use the Medicaid oil cleanser I'm just obsessed with that, I think it's amazing then we vitamin C and then we SPF if you need more moisture you can lay your moisturiser beneath your SPF or you could just get SPF morning routine really quick no one has time to fath we'll be right back after this short break

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19:06Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? If, for example, me, I have to use Abagi for my melasma, but I tend to use that at night because using it in the day can sometimes trigger it, especially if it's on a hot day. But then where would we put that in? So would we do the Abagi? Would we then do a serum? And then would we do a night cream or a day? yeah is this the barge is it the one there's the two number three i use the one for um what's it called pigmentation pigmentation yeah thanks she got no brain cells today um yes you do that first fine okay so then we're talking vitamin c and then we're an spf we're spf and are you medicate all the way or do you mix in and out i mix in and out i do love medicate i feel like i'm the spokesperson at the moment which um their products just work really well i'm also loving medicube yes do you know medicube yes i started well i actually bought the bundle the korean beauty bundle from boots the other day it got like a discount yes i haven't tried any i've only tried the mask that pink serum is it amazing okay fine unreal when you do these things when you buy these things just buy you one as well just please or just send me a message saying you've done it is this a korean skincare brand yes this is a korean skincare brand And it has this pink serum.

20:26Is it PD? Basically, it's polynucleotides. You know polynucleotides? Yeah. Salmon sperm? Yeah. Or trout. I've had it. Didn't rate it. Didn't rate it. I haven't had it, but now I won't. I felt like it was a bit of Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone's talking about it. Everyone's saying it was amazing. Also, the dots under the eyes make me feel sick. Also, I'm like, who's ranking off a load of salmon and putting it in a fucking bottle? That's the only thing I can think about. I was like, where are they getting the sperm from? No, it's just you thinking that. It's not true. It's the DNA. It's the DNA.

21:01From the Zanf. Yeah, sorry. That was exactly what I thought it was. But didn't see a difference, personally. No, me neither. Yeah. But this is basically a polynucleotide serum. Right. It's unreal. It's pink serum. You have to get a hair one. Yeah, okay. Just when you use it, the glow on your skin, it's like glass skin in a bottle. it's so good a price point it's not expensive is it no medical i bought this bundle i think it's still on the boots app on tuesdays they do all those offers don't they and i will just have a little scan through and it was like 30 something pounds and it had the serums some other bits i think it's like 20 or something as well um spf brands that you're into do you know what there's some things i think you need to spend a lot of money on in beauty and i well not a lot you can spend more on and there's some things that i actually don't think you need to spend a lot of money on and spf you just need to use it just needs to be a high factor you don't need to spend a fortune on it okay anivia a l 'oreal a garnier they're not expensive and they do the job and they work i'm really glad you said that because i thought you were going to say the opposite of that then actually because you get all of these you know all these sort of scaremongery posts and oh you need to buy this one and this you know some bloody spf that you buy they're like 45 quid for a bottle that big and i'm like who can afford that you know what they might have a nicer texture to them or they might absorb quicker but a garnier is going to do the job you know you just need a high spf look for the five star rating it needs to have uva and uvb protection it's it will have uva and b in that circle so um b stands for burning a stands for aging wow yeah does it yeah i don't know what i thought it was probably can't say it can i i don't know what you're thinking but you know you're probably gonna touch at me so i won't say it um i did not know that uva uvb so uva stands for aging and uvb stands for burning and you need your spf to cover both of those types of rays yes um to have adequate protection and your high street formulas will do that perfectly well did you know that that's so cool yeah okay love that um best bronzer out there i'm a bobby fan yes love a bronzer i just bought a new one which one because space and care don't do merit anymore and i used to merit and i used to love the bronzing stick yeah merit so i'm trying the rare beauty one do you like it well i've only used it once so i really like the deal yeah i like it's okay yeah i don't know the dior one's great dior okay do you use a cream bronzer or a powder bronzer?

23:43I use both. You use both. Love a bronze. Yeah. So I do cream bronzer. I use my Dior stick, buff that all in. And then I love the Reason bronzer. Do you know Rhi? Really Rhi? Yeah. Yeah. Really Rhi. She's got her own makeup brand. She's a content creator. She was one of the OG bloggers back in the day, beauty bloggers back in the day. She's got her makeup brand and her bronzer is unreal so good it's like a cream to powder the most natural shade it's like i think i'm on my second one of those now i use it every single day okay where do you buy it just where does she sell online she sells online but i actually think she's going to john lewis this month oh amazing i've seen people can try it in the flesh and the brand is reason it's call Reason.

24:27R-E-E-S-O-N. Great. Because her name is Rhee. Yeah. Bad. Okay, great. And then a powder bronzer. Powder bronzer. Charlotte Tilbury's got a great one. Do you know what? Benefit Hoola? That's the one I use. Do you still use that one? I still use it in Southern Ireland, my 12-year-old. But there's nothing wrong with it. It's like the OG. Yeah, it's the OG. Yeah, I love it. The little box that we all had in our going out bags. And there's a tiny little mirror in it. I was trying to look at it in the studio today and I was like, wow. I didn't know you used Hoola. oh my god I love Hula I feel like everyone used to use Hula three kids under five with zero time for myself wow gosh we've all been there need a quick and affordable routine so I guess we're talking have we sort of covered that with our any really good affordable brands that people might not think of I guess a routine so Elf we've mentioned them we love a bit of Elf um do you know what max factor i think is a really overlooked makeup brand they're having a bit of a resurgence they've repackaged everything it looks really good um boots 17 has got some really good products they have an amazing highlighter a bit like the charlotte tilbury one literally a few pounds um but i would say do you know what if you have literally no time makeup sticks are your friend if you've got really young kids you can literally be holding i remember doing my makeup with like a baby in my arm and it was all about sticks so a foundation stick baby in one arm you can swipe it over your face put it down pick up your foundation sticks what a foundation brush buff it all in same with concealer same with brush uh blusher bronzer all in sticks and you're literally done in a few minutes and you only need one hand the bobby brown sticks are really good for the eye the eyeshadow sticks as well because they go on so quickly like sometimes if i'm in a real rush and then you can just buff it out takes two seconds to do they're a joy and what do we think about um bbb or cc cream it's tinted moisturizer it's a tinted moisturizer yeah with a clever sounding name so do we like those or do we like those yeah we like it into moisturizer do you know what sometimes if you just want a little light bit of coverage you don't want to do a full face yes nice yeah uh a broad eborian eborian oh yeah the one that goes on white and then goes and matches everyone's skin tone yeah that is amazing yeah people rave over that it's yeah it's great it's got an spf in it's nice i discovered the by terry um cc serum recently oh my god it's amazing it's expensive yep but it is amazing and i think if you've got a friend who's having a baby buy her that yeah because that's something you probably wouldn't just go and pick up yourself without trying first but it just goes on and you can just have when nothing else and it's just glowy and or a little bit of charlotte tilbury hollywood filter oh my god that's so good yeah yeah yeah we just love anything to do with charlotte tilbury i just rate all of her products so how she gets them so kind of dewy but also there's coverage there as well yeah i've just moved on actually from you i was i used hollywood um is it called like hollywood skin or yeah is that the one in the tube yeah i think that's you got me onto that Not flawless filter, the other.

27:44Beautiful skin. That's the one I'm using at the moment. And I've just moved on to Armani Beauty. Lumina Silk. I love Lumina Silk. But for ages I was using that one. And you're using that one. I'm using, you got me onto that. Yeah. Maybe I'll have to go back to Lumina Silk. I need a bit more coverage than you though. Yeah, all skin. Where on earth do I begin with the retina? We've done that. Should we do best products for brow, lash and hair regrowth post-chemo? Okay. But maybe in general as well. Okay, in general. So Revitalash is a brand that Future Dreams, which is a breast cancer charity, they have a house in Kings Cross where actually if you are going through chemo, you can go, you can visit, you can book in.

28:29They have beauty experts, they have hair experts, they have bra fitting experts. They have loads of experts there that you can actually book classes, one-to-ones with and get really targeted help. but Revitalash is a brand that they recommend it has a seal of approval so you can use that for your lash and for your brow regrowth Swede the makeup brand have also launched a lash serum Swede S-W-E-E-D I've never heard of them really nice brand you can get it at Marks and Spencer's the packaging's all um like turquoise oh really they have an amazing foundation called Glaskin foundation which actually is probably the closest to the victoria beckham foundation yeah 70 pounds cheaper um yeah it's so expensive isn't it it's ridiculous is it really good it's good is it really good i've got a bone to pick with victoria beckham because i think her i'm wearing is it called coa coa or something this the eyeliner um but it's a pencil one but the the bloody thing falls out yeah i've heard that a lot then you try and sharpen it and then it gets all gunky and stuck in the end of your thingy yeah am i making any sense i can't say the word sharpener and then by the time you've tried to keep sharpening it sharpening it the whole thing's gone i'm cross with you should write to them i'd be pretty sure they'd exchange it really who will do that go marching into self-fages i'm gonna go marching into self-fages yeah i've heard that a lot and that was frustrating.

30:01Yeah, I've heard that a lot about the eyeliners. It's such a good eyeliner. It's great. But the£104 foundation is actually... No, it's a joke. Oh, I don't want to know that it's good. Yeah. No, it's£104. £104. But it's good. I won't let you do it. But try the Swede Glaskin foundation. Okay. Anyway, we've gone off on a tangent. The hair regrowth. The hair regrowth. Right. So with anything, again, consistency is key. We've said this with collagen. It's the same with anything to do with hair growth. Charpour, it's actually, it's spelled C-H-A-M-P-O, but it's pronounced Charpour in case you think you've never seen this brand, but actually you have.

30:41It's amazing. It is amazing. Jesus. I worked with them last year, so I did two months with them. So good. In fact, I used the product for six to nine months. Yeah, I've been using it for a year. My hair regrowth was incredible. so people over the last few months have started to ask if I have extensions and it has to be down to this brand because I've used it consistently for a year now um so in terms of hair growth I can tell you that that works and I think you also agree oh completely my before and after photos the videos were next level and it was really it was the only thing because I'd already been taking collagen for four years before that and that wasn't helping on that scale but six months use was really noticeable and is that the pita growth serum yeah the growth serum and then they've got shampoo and conditioner as well but it's the growth serum really that makes the biggest difference but it's about being consistent again because you can't use these things once a week and think it's going to work you have to repeatedly be using it and remember to use it the greatest thing about it as well is that you can use it on dry hair and it doesn't leave your hair feeling oily in any way shape or form so it's like you have to use it twice a day you know you can just put it I was just putting it in my temples and obviously you know down the hairline is that what you call it yeah yeah um apologies to everybody um yeah and I just I just I thought my hair was just so much thicker and all the breakage stopped yeah yeah I really rate it yeah and it's actually not cost per use it's not fortunes no it's not so yeah and if it worked I think people don't mind like revitalash is expensive like compared to other lash series I tried, I stopped using Revitalash and my eyelashes were terrible.

32:22Oh really? Yeah, because they grew really nicely and then I stopped using it and I was like, oh my god, I cannot believe the difference. Are you using them now? I've just gone back, I bought one like last week. So that's the thing with all these things, people will say they don't work but are they really using it consistently? Probably not. If you are consistent, you will see a difference. We'll be right back after this short break. Save now at Whole Foods Market. It's the Summer Splash event. With great everyday prices on 365 brand ground beef for the grill and ice cream for dessert, they have yellow sales signs on ready-to-cook beef or chicken kebabs too.

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33:55Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? This question is as if I have written it, because all I can focus on now is my neck. What's the best skincare for aging neck area? Do you know what? What? Just take your moisturizer down to your neck. I do that all the time, though, but I feel like it's the area that's going. What about those LED neck things? Fucking give me one. Do you know what I think? I think if your neck is really awful and bad, as in nothing is bad, but if you feel like it's bad and it's getting you down to the stage where you don't want to show it, you might need a skin tightening treatment, like a laser.

34:34Right. But otherwise, hydrate. Don't stare down at your phone. Keep your head up all the time. Keep your whole neck. Tech neck. We don't want tech neck. Roll neck in summer. Yeah. What about Profilo in your neck? Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Also, I've seen people have really good results with Botox in your neck as well. Oh, really? Oh, my God. That terrifies me. Botox here to lift everything. Profilo here to kind of hydrate. The pain of Profilo in your neck. Yeah. I'd rather die. I can't imagine that. Jesus Christ. I do love Profilo. Me too. It's my favorite beauty treatment. Same. Do you love it as well?

35:11So good. It makes the biggest difference. Yeah. You can actually see. I know. I think you notice it when you don't have it. And then you're like, what's wrong with my face? Why do I look so tired and grey? The only bad thing about Profilo for me is that once I've had it done, I'm like, ooh, how much can I drink over the next couple of weeks? Because I know I've got an extra boost. Yeah, you just look glowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like false advertising. It's so bad of me, isn't it? Classic my character to be like, oh, I've had my Profilo now, I can drink more. What can I do? Right, should we do one more?

35:44summer makeup for a busy mum do you know what the best thing about summer is I actually don't think you need to wear so much makeup SPF bit of bronzer sunglasses on done I live in sunglasses we haven't really spoken about lipsticks and lip liners which is my big thing in lip glosses lip liner is my new favourite thing in the world I went 40 years without using lip liner really? yeah never bothered with it But I recently discovered it around Christmas time. Love a lip liner, a nude lip liner with a bit of nude lipstick or a balm. It's my new favourite thing. Maybe it's age, maybe it's because. I don't know, this is all.

36:25Don't know. Have you ever had your lips done? No, I'm toying with it, but I'm too scared. What are you scared of? The pain and it looking wrong. You've just got to go to the right person. And also just don't go out for a few days after. You can't go out for a few days after. No, seriously, you can't. You absolutely can't. Well, some people don't react the way that we react. Have you both had your lip? Yeah, I've had mine done twice now. I had it once, a tiny bit recently for hydration, but I looked mental for four days after. No, no, I'm not joking. But some people don't bruise like that. Yeah.

36:55She panicked. She was due to come to my big... I really panicked. Is it like a Kris Jenner? I'll show you a picture after. I looked like I had... I couldn't speak. And then I also looked like I'd been in a fight. But I don't... I think you could have... Not because I think you're beautiful and you don't have to have any more. But I think I was expecting you to come out looking like KP. Well, no, I had the smallest, smallest amount because I just wanted it for hydration more than anything. Right, right, right. I didn't want it for, like, for them to be big or anything like that. I just wanted them to be more hydrated so they can take a lipstick better.

37:28Right. But I will not do it again. So when I went to get my Botox, I got upsold filler, the till. and you know this is my normal person but we had the conversation and I was right in the middle of um doing my run on breakfast on hot breakfast obviously everything's filmed this was probably three summers ago and she uh she was like look just a little bit oh my god do you know what it's all coming back to me it wasn't my normal person it was a person that I was seeing in high Wickham anyway went up there got my Botox done and he said to me you will be fine just get I said look I'm on air tomorrow morning and he was like it's not going to be a problem you won't notice it anyway had it done and whilst he was doing it he was like squeezing my lips and pulling squeezing squeezing squeezing and I thought in my mind I thought I'm fucked here anyway went to bed woke up at 4am turned to dolls it was the middle of summer and I went how bad is it and he went and I went oh my god looked in the mirror and I had to go in and lie and tell the team that I'd had dental work oh god because it was like like this and a bruising and I was like couldn't shut my mouth it was like a black every set that's what I was oh my god so listen if you're gonna get it done I've had it done a couple of times since and it really wasn't as bad as the first time you just got to make sure you've got a couple of days clear on the other side yeah because you don't know how you're going to react because I was the same and also James didn't speak to me for about two weeks really you have not spoken about this on the podcast he was furious oh I feel like thing is profilo botox you can get away with no one really needs yeah yeah that no I literally it was dark as well and I was in the bathroom and he came back from work and I was thinking fuck fuck fuck I kind of just wanted to go to bed yes then like avoid him and then like just keep having my back to him and he literally walked up the stairs like dim light and he went what the fuck have you done to your face.

39:27And I was like, oh, isn't that bad? He was like, it's that bad. I was like, great. What did your kid say? I told him I walked into a door. no, actual kids say, what have you done to your face? I don't like it. I was like, oh, I had a facial. Judgy of them. You have to get your stories right and consistent. It's either dental work or it's a door. Or pre-worn. I think if I'd have pre-worn James I'd be like, oh, I'm having this on today. I might look mental for a week. Then it would have been all right. But I think you don't expect that you will look mental because social media doesn't tell you and warn you of the side effects of these things, which I think is really important.

40:05The same like Moxie, I had a bad reaction to. Lit Fuller, you have bad experiences with. Laser, it's not all these miracle treatments it's made up to be. So you're sitting on the fence. Have you swayed you? You've just put me off even more. But look at them now. They look gorgeous. that's all we've got time for oh thank you so much for having me thank you we've been chatting for so long and we don't need to do products because we've mentioned millions there yeah exactly and I'm sure that Sam is always available on her DMs if you want to drop a message about anything that we've spoken about today Sam thank you so much thanks for having me it's about the silver everyone yay

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