The One After The BAFTAs

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0:34hello i'm john robbins and i'm here to tell you about a brand new series of my podcast how do you cope each week i'm joined by remarkable guests as i ask one simple question how do you cope i'll be speaking to the likes of richard osmond if someone is opening up to you please accept it to them it is unbelievably real comedian allison spittle i can't eat my feelings anymore, but now I have to feel my feelings, but I don't know how to identify those feelings because I've repressed them for so long. And former communications director to Donald Trump, Anthony Scaramucci. Every one of those shows that made fun of me, I went on the show.

1:07I faced the music. If you're searching for reassurance, inspiration, or just an honest conversation that reminds you you're not alone, join me every week for How Do You Cope. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Made By Mamas, the podcast. I'm Zoe Hardman. And I'm Georgia Dayton. And this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits. With five kids between G and I, we have seen a lot.

1:33Georgia Dayton: We really have. Each week we'll be joined by some famous faces and experts and we'll chat about the brands and products that have saved us along the way. In short, we're the parenting podcast for you. Before we get started, hit subscribe or follow so you're the first to know when each episode lands. And they're on Tuesdays and Fridays. And it really helps if you leave a rating and a review. You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummers. But for now, George, should we get into it? It's just the two of us. It is. You're back. I actually really missed you. I hate it when you're not here.

2:05Georgia Dayton: Oh, George. I know. I'm like, I can't make little jokes or I haven't got anyone making like rude remarks. We've just recorded a podcast and we were talking about salmon and trout sperm polynucleotides. And I think I gauged the audience wrong so I was like who's wanking off loads of salmon and then I looked at our guests and I thought oh she doesn't know me that well but I but and then she also said that that isn't what happened it's the DNA of the salmons I have learned something yeah yeah but no I miss someone making those remarks there's no one to make the jokes I'm like oh god this is dry when you're so he's not here how are you I'm all right I'm good yeah yeah yeah um I haven't really got any news not great for the start of a podcast no but obviously acts will move schools and the social life that comes with it is quite been quite full on have you got loads of new school friends yeah we've i mean every weekend we've been socializing with the new parents actually so disappointed i know i was so anti making new friends i mean in general in life yeah anti making new friends but it's nice i'm actually really enjoying it it's i get it i get the school crowd thing now I do do you know what this is those of you who know Georgia very well will know that you are a total introvert when you are extrovert introvert yes I'm exactly you can put it on but you can see the disdain in Georgia's voice when she's in a conversation that she doesn't want to be in she does this face and then I'll almost give her the nudge and we are out so the fact that you're making new friends I'm proud of you but also disappointed no I am definitely you're so right I am an extroverted introvert yeah I can be loud and confident and all of that but really I love being on my own yeah and I need to be on my own but yeah lots of socializing so I'm tired and um yeah I booze oh god oh god have you been drinking yeah lots of drinking um it's quite a lot it's not good for your skin and your sleep and my aura ring is wondering what's going on but um business as usual from you know now on you also went to a comedy night I did oh my god I went to see a tiktok or instagram comedian called sophie gerrard let me look it up okay um and it was like my perfect night out I met oh sophie gerrard not gerrard um perfect night out I met my friend at 5 30 right in the afternoon yeah for a glass of champagne for a glass for a Glass of champagne in a local wine bar.

4:40Georgia Dayton: Lovely. Lovely. Jumped on the train to Southend. Not so lovely. Don't do that, anyone listening. We got out and I was like, oh my God, where are we? We wanted to get on the train back. I think there's different stations in Southend. And I think the one that we got off at was like there'd been an apocalypse. It was honestly really scary. Couldn't get an Uber. Anyway, fine. Had a bowl of pasta. went to watch this comedian for an hour got on an Uber home home at 9.30 genuinely granny night out I was like that is my dream night pasta laughing and bed at 10 a glass of champagne that is like I was asleep by 10 when I asked Georgia for her review of it I said how was it and she was like well I was at home by 9.30 I was like that's not a review of the comedy night oh no she is really funny and actually she's been going through like fertility struggles and stuff and she's been talking about that a lot as well.

5:37Georgia Dayton: She didn't in her stand-up. It was actually all about her dad going to prison, which was unexpected. Why? Yeah, I know. But it was a really nice thing to do and the tickets were like 20 quid and me and my friends thought, this is such a nice thing to do on a Friday evening that doesn't involve going all in out, staying out really late. We've had a laugh, had a nice chat and we're home. It was very nice. George, I love this for you. Your weekend was probably not so balanced. I wasn't going to bed at 9.30. But I also wasn't still up at 9.30. Okay. So that is something. Whereas some of the crew, I've just got to say, my friends are absolutely mental.

6:17And I think I haven't, because most of them are either gay or not married and they don't have children. Right. So I'll just put that. There's a lot of my friends who are still in that kind of early 40 something. They haven't settled down. They don't want kids. And so they are like rampant animals at a zoo, which is very fun. But even me at three o 'clock in the morning, I was like, I've got to go to bed now, which is very unlike me. I'd normally be trying to crack on till dawn, but I did take myself up. And you'll love this on the Thursday. So we got there on the Wednesday. We had a really fun night out in Ibiza town.

6:52We got the ferry over to Formantera. Everyone was in such good spirits. the storm came in and it was lashing with rain thunder lightning and when that happens people go a bit feral yeah people just think there's nothing else to do there's only one thing for it we've got to drink through it so um but I had to take myself off back to my room at like 5 p.m and I cooked myself a pizza took the pizza back to my room which is very unlike me as well and just have like a quiet work I had a little nap nana nap and then rejoined the group at 8 p.m because it was just go, go, go, charge, charge, charge, high energy the whole time.

7:26But yeah, I had a very, very, very fun time. The son came out for the party on the Friday. I did my speech. He got his lovely presents. It was my best friend's 40th, so it was a pretty special time. But straight back into it. I've been to the BAFTAs.

7:38Georgia Dayton: I know, but we're here for the gossip, so bring us on. Couple of faux pas. Let's talk about me being at the BAFTAs in the same dress as, okay, let's play a game.

7:51Okay. She is in EastEnders.

7:54Georgia Dayton: Yeah. Currently. Currently. And has been in EastEnders for a very long time. Lacey. She's not in it. Lacey. No. Are you going to guess? I'm not going to guess. She's got blonde hair. I'm not going to guess. Michelle Collins. Oh, right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Wearing the identical dress to me. Fuck, man. Just like, you know, what do you do in those situations? I couldn't get her for a set because I thought this could be funny. I'll turn this into content. She did style it very differently. So what I did this year was rent a dress from her. Brilliant. An A.D. Morabi dress, 100 quid. I thought, I'm not going to spend fortunes on a stylist.

8:33And then I thought, oh, Jesus, this is why you spend fortunes on a stylist. So fine. Then I sat down. It's a very long day. You sit down. And the lovely P &O cruises invited me, really lovely invite, sat down. And the woman next to me, I didn't know. I did not know anyone sitting around me.

8:51Georgia Dayton: I thought you were going to find Katie Piper She was sitting behind me but not next to me so I was like oh what do you do to the person next to me and she was like oh I was in Traitors and I was like oh fuck if I'd watched Traitors this would have been brilliant and I was like oh sorry I haven't watched it and I was like how did you get on and she went I won it so that was the second faux pas of the day and she goes you're going to watch it I said well I don't need to now because you told me who won so that didn't go down very well she didn't find that funny there was a woman from I was basically surrounded by the traitors camp and you hadn't watched it that didn't go down that well other gossip, Ashley James hung out with her, she was on lovely form obviously saw Katie Piper, Anna Williamson from Celebsco dating, she was brilliant Jim Chapman told a very spicy story can't share it on the podcast you can't do that, that's rubbish this is why we're going to have Patreon we'll share those spicy stories on there all in all quite a tame baftas but i think i think what happens is everyone goes to the dinner afterwards and then the after party but i i snuck off because i had to go on breakfast this morning but it was it was really really fun and then today i've been to breakfast done that radio show and here we are recording so i feel a bit like the dead man walking yeah you you were mixing your words up a little bit earlier which always cracks me up i can almost hear george's mind going do i stefan i have to second guess what you mean so i'm like i think she that's what she means no i'm joking no no no you're not joking you're absolutely right was it when i was saying that was going to shove the eyeliner pencil in the doodah the doodah yes and then the thing from the middle falls out georgia was like what the fuck are you talking about i knew what you meant but it's just good because it paints a picture of where you are you're very tired we'll be right back after this short break

10:44Hello, I'm John Robbins and I'm here to tell you about a brand new series of my podcast, How Do You Cope? Each week, I'm joined by remarkable guests as I ask one simple question, how do you cope? I'll be speaking to the likes of Richard Osman. If someone is opening up to you, please accept that to them it is unbelievably real. Comedian Alison Spittel. I can't eat my feelings anymore, but now I have to feel my feelings, but I don't know how to identify those feelings because I've repressed them for so long. And former communications director to Donald Trump, Anthony Scaramucci. Every one of those shows that made fun of me, I went on the show.

11:17I faced the music. If you're searching for reassurance, inspiration, or just an honest conversation that reminds you you're not alone, join me every week for How Do You Cope. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

11:31Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we?

11:34Georgia Dayton: How's everything else? How, like, the kids and stuff? Got to talk honestly on the podcast today about my son's behavior. Right. He is being awful. Awful to me. We had a, we've been having full on screaming matches. And I feel like, firstly, I'm quite disappointed. Carrying a bit of shame as to how I reacted to him. But let me set the scene because he's been doing it consistently for weeks and weeks and weeks of just pushing and pushing and pushing. down to you know I'll say to him oh kit could you just like please could you go and brush your teeth and he'll be like nope and I'll be like oh buddy come on now like go and brush your teeth and he'll be like not doing it and I'll be like it's not an option not to do it please go and brush your teeth and then the more I go like come on mate go brush your teeth he's basically going like you yeah and he will just hang around.

12:31He'll walk out of a room, then hang around in the next room, not doing it. But Kit, if you brush your teeth, he's not helping me with anything. He won't put his shoes on. He doesn't want to brush his hair. He barely wants to get out of bed in the morning. I mean, this is somebody who basically is completely disrespecting me. And I had a chat with him the other day and I just said, Kit, I don't get it because me and you are, you know, we have a great relationship and we don't have to have all these arguments. And he's like I just don't want to do what you asked me to do he said it I was like hello classic Taurus you know I can't so I lost it the other morning as in I screamed the fucking house down and I feel terrible about it and I got quite shaky and Luna was really upset but I didn't have anywhere to go in those moments and lots of people give me advice on it and say you need to get ahead of it earlier and you need to be firmer I've tried firmer I've tried softer I've tried you know not saying anything at all but it's down to it's down to any little thing he's basically just disobeying me so I feel feel quite upset about where I am in my parenting journey with him at the moment

13:33Georgia Dayton: yeah no I I get it and I think it's so easy isn't it for people to go oh you know we'll just do this or don't rise to it or blah blah but when you're in those moments actually that's really hard I'm having similar with bedtime at the moment I think the whole bedtime thing pisses me off now anyway because I used to love that they would go to bed at like 7 o 'clock, 7.30. That is not on the table at all anymore. It doesn't happen. And even on the nights where we could get, you know, they could go to bed at half seven because a lot of football training is finished now and like he's doing things slightly earlier.

14:14Georgia Dayton: And I'm like, oh, my God, amazing. Back to, you know, some early nights. They just won't. And especially when James isn't there. I'm finding when James isn't there, Axel goes, oh, the Champions League's on. And I'm like, right, okay, but you're not watching it. You don't support either of those teams. Oh, that's so unfair. Oh, yeah. Daddy would let me watch the Champions League. And I'm like, no, he wouldn't. Like, he actually wouldn't. He would rather you went to bed and you can watch the highlights in the morning if you want. Oh, I can't believe you're doing this to me. Such and such is watching it.

14:47Georgia Dayton: This is so unfair. And I never thought I'd be the parent that would just be worn down. But last week, however many nights Plippin' Football was on, a million nights, I was just worn down. And I was like, all right, whatever, stay up. I don't care. And it really pisses me off because, number one, then I don't get an evening because he wants to watch it in the kitchen. And then that's where I want to be. And so I said to him, the last time I let him stay up because James wasn't there again, I said right you can stay up but don't speak to me I was like listen the second you speak to me or ask me a question you're going to bed I want to act like you're not here right he was like yeah yeah okay so I went and had a bar he's downstairs watching the football basically he's my husband and um I'm like just laying there thinking oh she's so nice and I go downstairs there's and I'm like oh for god's sake he's still up and he goes mom guess what shoe size miss jackson is I'm like no no no I'm sorry miss jackson no don't give a shit we're not talking it goes oh but but can I just I'm like no the rules are if you're staying up you're not talking but I'm just worn down I'm literally worn down I totally get where you are and actually sometimes I hear you in my train of thoughts like you have to be in such a good headspace to be able to bar up to deal with a child who's in a particular space listen my kids are good your kids are good they're lovely they're lovely humans but let's not dress it up they're being total dicks at the moment some of them and and and actually if you're not feeling as strong if you've had a really long day the battle is too hard so then at what point you know you've got two kids who take themselves off to bed brush their own teeth yeah you know have a wee get into bed start reading on their your own and you've got another child who who refuses to even walk up the stairs now what the hell do I do at that point yeah I don't know either it's really it's a very challenging point of parenting that and I think with the boy energy there's something about that that unlocks something in us as well like just said to me like why the hell are you showing like because I burst into tears after I'd shouted it was more of a shock as to how I had responded to him he's like why are you showing him you're like wait this is not an emotional thing though this is he has to go upstairs to bed get it done I'm like oh god how yeah how how that's that's exactly I'm like how do you physically get someone to do something that they don't want to do like I don't know I'm not sure I don't think and I hate saying this because I don't know I'd love to get your opinion on this but they behave differently for the male energy in the life 100 % like really they really really do and I'm also finding now that I'm doing things that I really didn't want to do as in like Gigi's my favorite like at the moment like I really didn't want to be that family where it was like boys and girls I really didn't but ultimately she does what I want you know what I want to do like we have fun together like it's fine also she likes silence as well she doesn't want to ask me like oh did you know what's the difference between these two flags i don't know i don't care like not really bothered like did you know this is the only flag in the world that isn't a rectangle no i didn't never thought about it never will again don't really like it never will again and he's like oh but jeez is your favorite and i feel like being like yeah because she listens yeah she's not chewing my ear off all the time georgia you are you hit the nail on the head and And also, I mean, this might be the most fucked up thing I've ever said on a podcast, but I'm saying it anyway.

18:29There's something about a tiny little man shouting back at me that makes me want to fucking lock him in a cupboard forever. Yes. Like, don't fucking argue with me. I've had enough men in my past that have stood there and sparred with me. You're supposed to love me unconditionally. What the fuck?

18:45Georgia Dayton: It is. I think it's triggering. It's really triggering. Yeah, it is a lot. But also I say to James, you don't do what I say either. and he's copying you so this is all your fault yeah which it is another tiny man shouting back yeah but even like yesterday sorry i've made dinner i've been like i actually didn't leave the house yesterday which was quite nice i did i have one of my mad days where i've like made a hundred different meals and to james he's like james's thing he's like you no one asked you to do that like literally no one asked you to do all of that you decided to do that so then i've Made the final meal of the day for everyone to eat.

19:27Georgia Dayton: And I put it on the table. Oh, God, sorry, sorry. Just one second. That was just for Sunday. You weren't doing food prep. Yeah, I did. I did, like, loads of food prep. I made, like, pancakes, bolognese, and mac and cheese, all of these things. When are they arriving at my house? And I put them in, like, in the fridge. I was being really organized. And then, obviously, I made actual dinner for everybody. And James and Axel have been sitting watching Arsenal or whatever. Oh, yeah, Arsenal, West Ham. And Gigi have been helping me. and I was like, oh, come on guys, come and sit at the table now. And James was on his phone and he's watching something on his phone.

20:00Georgia Dayton: I said, Jim, come on, seriously, like, you're not listening to me. They're not going to listen to me. And he was like, I'm just watching a prank. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, you're not. And then I went, well, I'm just a fucking slave around here, aren't I? I've said it so many times in the last two weeks. I'm just a slave. And he was like, overreaction. I was like, no, no, it's not an overreaction. And then we had this whole conversation about him saying to the kids, you know, you really need to listen to mum. And I'm like, lead by example. And I left him with that. They will see that. They will see that.

20:38Watching a prank is more important than getting up and listening to you. And also, I'm sorry, do you not think we want to be doing different and better things with our time? I know. That's what I keep explaining to them. Like, do you think I think this is fun? Yeah. This is not fun for me. This is hell and torture for me. It's not when you do it nicely and you do it straight away. But I don't want to be standing there going, I mean, I sound like an old fucking codwife. Yeah, it's annoying.

21:01Georgia Dayton: It's annoying to be like, come on, come on, please come and sit down for dinner. Come and listen to me. It's like, yeah. Oh, her indoors is all being all moaning. Yeah, it's really annoying. I really am not loving it at the moment. So when do we move into our female only retreat? I don't know. Is it a man thing? Producer Mark, is it a man thing? I really just... Is it a man thing? Do they just... I think men don't like being told what to do. I mean... I am being told what to do by some tiny dictators the whole time. I don't want to be told what to do. God, Jesus Christ. No one's listening. Anyway, rant over.

21:41Georgia Dayton: Who's your favourite at the moment? I can't possibly say. Luna. So what are we going to do about it? And if there are any, maybe we should do, I feel like we haven't done a child psychologist one for a while. Yeah, I do actually. I think a family dynamic child psychologist coach would be really good. Because I do wonder if, by the way, can I just, I'd like to just go back in and talk about just quickly that relationship with our sons. Because when it's good, like that isn't how he treats me the whole time. Yeah. You know, he's so, we're so connected and he's such a beautiful soul. But I think he's getting into the habits of like either throwing all of his toys out the pram, completely disobeying me and then being really, really nice when he gets what he wants.

22:26So I feel like I said to Doz, I said, we've got to be a unified front. Like I caught him the other day out the window. We're driving past like a white van and there's a man in the front and he's going like this.

22:39Georgia Dayton: Wanker sign. Well, I don't know if it was the wanker or I want to fight. But either way, it wasn't, you know, it's like, where is he getting this stuff from? Is that what Dawson's doing? I can't win. They're together. Oh, my God. Oh, God. That's like Axel's first swear words came from, he was really young. I remember we were on the way to a party. He can't have been at school yet. He must have been preschool. Gigi was in the back. She must have been tiny. We're driving to the party and she was just playing up, not going to sleep, being loud. And then he said, oh, you know what me and Daddy called Gigi?

23:15Georgia Dayton: and I was like no what and he's like fucking Gigi and I was like sorry what you anyway yeah me daddy and Craigie because he used to get a lift to preschool with James and his friend on the way to football and James is obviously like oh fucking Gigi driving I saw him my head or you know like whatever and that's and I went berserk yeah of course um at James I phoned James and he was on to that than both again they're fun we go back to it being their fault but how does it impact your relationship does it impact your relationship with James on a serious note um things like the not listening like that does really bother me because I don't mind I think we've been trying for years and years to get to a point where we feel like we're balanced right so we're both bringing the same amount to the house whatever that means you know whether that's working whether that's mental load whatever that is and I think I've come to a point where I'm like it's not going to be balanced right anyone I speak to with the best intentions in the world one person whoever that is in the relationship is always going to be a little bit more on it like I have and James is good because he'll be like tell me like tell me what I can do to help yeah and I do try and tell him but he doesn't do it so then I could take the responsibility away and then he's like well you haven't told me and I'm like because you didn't do it but then it's just and I think what that is our main thing and so we're trying to get to things now where he's good at certain things that he will do and and like pick up and then I've I'm good at certain things but I think when it comes to the kids and not listening I do think listen I'm doing all of this the least you could do is show the kids to respect me you know like when they're playing football in the garden him and Axel or whatever and I'm like come on coming for dinner for him he's like oh we're only doing five more minutes but it's that I think that showing Axel oh you don't have to do you know what I mean you can always push the boundaries a bit yeah which on paper you know on the surface is fine for oh can we have five more minutes we're just doing something yeah of course it is but I think that's the thing that gets me the most is like pushing the boundaries and I think if as a parent you've almost got to be like too much the other way to show them that you can't push the boundaries all the time yeah so yeah I hear you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah it really did actually and I think I think without Doz's backup in those moments I would be completely lost and we often say how beautiful it is having that yin and yang of male and female energy in the house that I don't ever want to do that without him because Kit listens to him in a way that he doesn't listen to me and and then there's obviously stuff that I bring that does or doesn't bring so there's that beautiful balance and we're lucky that we have that but my deepest wound my deepest fear is raising a son who doesn't respect women same and I know that sounds really fucking melodramatic and he's eight years old but what is the point of no return with this with a with a with a young man like what is a point where he's you know laughing in my face or disrespecting me or like it people listening to this are going gonna go you're overreacting and probably some people are going gonna go I have this in my house too and it's just a phase so I think with young men especially to like he's a Taurus through and through he's the most stubborn stubborn boy and he just does what he wants but there is a part of me that thinks but actually no you're a bit frightened of your dad like you're frightened of his yeah he can he can shout and and Kit's like straight away but with me doesn't happen I don't want him to be scared of me but I want him to respect me yeah does he not respect me am I overthinking it like Like, I don't know, I'd love to get some clarity on that.

27:23Georgia Dayton: And I think that's the thing that makes it feel like such a big deal, like these really small things, is that it's the bigger picture of like you want them to grow up to respect everybody. And, you know, especially women, you know, like everything we read now is all about how boys have been raised so badly and they're the root of all of these problems. And so like we've got this responsibility, but you can't do that on your own. everyone else has to be on board as well. Do you know what, Axel changing schools, one of the main things that I've really noticed is a girl-heavy class. So there's 13 girls and seven boys.

28:02Georgia Dayton: That's the year. Yeah, wow. And he said, oh, it's not really like my old school. He was like, you know, where the boys just used to play and the girls used to play. He's like, it's a lot more mixed. Oh, great. And I really love it. And there's a lot of really strong girls in the class, you know like pinulated and they're faster than the boys and like all of that and that's nothing that you can you know you can't make that happen but you realize what a big difference it does make um and yeah and I think that I guess that's that's all you can do is make sure that that there's that going on I guess and we're you know respecting everybody um because I don't know if you find this as well but it's easy isn't it like as adults you know James can make a joke that is just a joke towards me like I don't know whatever it is silly joke right we don't want me out to park or something like that it's a nothing and it's funny I'm not offended but it's how kids take that isn't it and then how that goes on in life because we've got perspective of that's just a joke and that is in that scenario it's just a joke but then does that build up that's the thing isn't it and that's where that's the conversation we have a lot is that they don't have that adult perspective that we do yeah so yeah we have to be careful with things like that we have to be careful what we're saying around them full stop I think and sometimes when we're in the heat at the moment or you know when we're making a joke or when we might be I might said something but my mum's come over my mum's here so she arrived on Friday she's living in the shed in the garden and made it really lovely for her though and I think I must have said something in front of Kit about Kit and Luna about her being a bit ditzy and like she can't hear anything and Kit was like yeah well you know why is she just like so silly and why is she just so irritating to have around and I was like oh god that's come from me you know and sorry mum because I'm sorry I was being the irritated like grumpy one when I got back from Ibiza no shock but um yeah I think it was just it was just interesting that whole sponge comment yeah you know it's like they just pick up on absolutely everything that we say and we're only with them for a few hours a day they're at school taking all of that in.

30:11Georgia Dayton: I know. So yeah, fear levels times 1 ,000 in me at the minute. It's going to be okay though, George, isn't it? Yeah, no, I think so. And I think the fact that we care about it, it will be okay, I think. I think so. Anyway, I'll stick to Gigi. She's still my best mate for her, all right? We used to do a girls trip, me, Luna, Gigi and you. Yeah, it is so nice. We'll be right back after this short break.

30:36Hello, I'm John Robbins and I'm here to tell you about a brand new series of my podcast, How Do You Cope? Each week, I'm joined by remarkable guests as I ask one simple question, how do you cope? I'll be speaking to the likes of Richard Osman. If someone is opening up to you, please accept that to them it is unbelievably real. Comedian Alison Spittel. I can't eat my feelings anymore, but now I have to feel my feelings, but I don't know how to identify those feelings because I've repressed them for so long. And former communications director to Donald Trump, Anthony Scaramucci. Every one of those shows that made fun of me, I went on the show.

31:09I faced the music. If you're searching for reassurance, inspiration, or just an honest conversation that reminds you you're not alone, join me every week for How Do You Cope. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

31:24Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah, we've got to talk about halftime because it's coming up. Can you believe they're off again? No, I know. Yay! Yay! No, actually, it'll be really nice. I'm on breakfast, so I get to do, I think it's for the 26th. So I've got a wedding in Ibiza.

31:37Georgia Dayton: I've got a wedding in Ibiza. Oh, that's fun. My best mate's daughter. So you are going away, just not with the kids. Two nights. Two nights. Yeah, two nights. And then I come back and then I do breakfast for two weeks. But it'll be lovely because I'll be able to get home for like 11, 30, 12 o 'clock. Yes, you'll have done the work and then you can be with the kids. You're going away? Well, I'm hoping to. So Axel does PGL the week before half term and then he's off for two weeks. so we we would normally do football escapes this half term but everyone that i've been speaking to has been like he will not want to like five six nights of sharing a room with eight other kids he's not gonna then want to get on a plane fly out to portugal and then have to be up because it is it's like a got to be there every day you know same time it's intense it's great it is absolutely amazing but we've decided actually he probably won't want to do that and it'll just be you know what it's like dragging someone up every morning i don't want to be doing that anymore um so i think we're just gonna keep an eye on the weather app um and maybe get some flights to spain um or something like that and then stay i went to estepona a few years ago i think i've mentioned that holiday yeah we just hired an apartment really really reasonable and then did loads of stuff like day trip so there's an amazing place in sottergrande called the reserva club it's quite fancy but that we can do a fancy day like that because we're not spending loads of money on where we're staying and just like play paddle I'm not me um you heard it guys she said play paddle but you know just do like just have a chill one and I think that's what we need but we'll probably just do it for like five days um so we're not taking GGR for too long oh yeah oh my god yeah because she'll be at school she'll be sure yeah so we'll probably just have to take her out for like two days, something like that.

33:28Talking of school, have a butcher's on this. Yeah, go on. I forgot to order the kids' lunches for two of the days when I was away in Ibiza. They did not feed my kid on one of the days. So Kit did not get a band. Luna managed to persuade someone in the kitchen hall to give her a band. Kit went to the office three times and did not get fed that day at school. That's so bad, isn't it?

33:51Georgia Dayton: No, I think that's horrific. I've got to follow it up because I wrote an email and I haven't heard, but I need to just follow that up because that's really bad, isn't it? Yeah, that's not on. Is that allowed? No, no, no, no. That's really not on. No. They probably don't like him because he's being really disrespectful to the women at school. How did he ask? Is there more to it? Exactly. Who knows? But no, anyone listening as well, let us know. I don't think that's allowed. I really don't. I can't imagine that would be because I've done it before where I've forgotten to book a lunch and then they get given the light jacket potato or whatever it is.

34:26Georgia Dayton: It's the other option. Yeah. I'm having to do packed lunches now every day, by the way. Bleh. Do you know what happened? Another pack of raisins. What a brat, right? I knew I had to be up and out early. Yeah, I know. I knew I had to be up and out early this morning. So yesterday I made orzo for Axel for his lunch. What's that? Just like pasta. It's like rice pasta and stuff. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, sure. I did chicken breast, peppers, cucumber, tomatoes in orzo. And he sat and ate a bowl of it yesterday. He was like, oh, this is delicious. I was like, great, there's loads left over. Put it in your lunch tomorrow.

34:58Georgia Dayton: This morning, he said, I don't want that orzo in my lunch. I said, well, I'm leaving now. So I've done your orzo, a thing of strawberries and some popcorn. That's all there is. James said to me, he took the orzo out, right, of the lunch. And he took a pack of chicken that I had in the fridge. So all he's got today is a packet of chicken and some strawberries to eat. Like, what the hell? And apparently he said to James, like, you need to talk to her because I don't want that. Isn't that horrific? Like, are you joking? Are you joking? And yesterday, when he went off to football, he said, oh, can I have these two kids back after?

35:34Georgia Dayton: I was like, yeah, of course you can. Like, anything that they might like, like, I can order to get in for food. He went, if you could just prepare, that was his words, if you could just prepare a beef roast, that would be great. If you could just prepare. A beef roast? Just prepare to be disappointed. Do you know, have you seen Boss Baby? Yes. Axel's like Boss Baby. But he's big. Yes, but he's like a 55-year-old man that sits in a smoking jacket in a library. What do you want to be when you're older? Yeah. CEO. Is that what he said? Yeah. He's the CEO of you. I feel sorry for him. Let that sink in just for a second.

36:14Ever works for him.

36:15Georgia Dayton: He's going to be one of those people. Have you got friends that are like EAs or anything? I've got a friend who's an EA and her boss phones her from his hotel to get her to order him a green tea from reception. And I always wonder how that happens. And now I know. It's your fault. They have a mum like me. That's how it happens. I'm the problem, guys. It's such a brilliant place to end the podcast on today whilst Georgia and I really reflect our parenting skills and our life choices. But you know what? Hopefully we've not bored you too much with our moaning and there's been some relatability in today.

36:52We've been bad. I promise you we'll be perky next time. Yeah, we will. But highs and lows, guys, highs and lows. As always, we'd love you to rate, review, subscribe and please give our podcast a follow.

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