Zoe Shows Georgia More Than She Bargained For, Thanks to 'Gary The Stripper'!

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1:16Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Made By Mamas, the podcast. I'm Zoe Hardman and I'm Georgia Dayton and this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits with five kids between G and I

1:32Georgia Dayton: we have seen a lot we really have each week we'll be joined by some famous faces and experts and we'll chat about the brands and products that have saved us along the way in short we're the parenting podcast for you before we get started hit subscribe or follow so you're the first to know when each episode lands and they're on Tuesdays and Fridays and it really helps if you leave a rating and a review You can also find us on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummers. But for now, George, should we get into it? Hello, you gorgeous siren, you. Hello. You look lovely and spring-like. Where's that jacket from?

2:06Georgia Dayton: Accessorised. Shut up. Yeah, it is. I love a little padded jacket. You are the queen of the padded jacket. Yes, spring, the padded jackets are out. How are you doing? I'm good. I think it's been nearly a month since we've actually been in the studio, which is probably the longest ever. I haven't seen you for a month. I know. So weird. How are you? What's been going on? What's been going on? Well, we've obviously, we've sort of caught up, haven't we? Because we did like a virtual podcast, but we wanted to save the... The big stuff. The big stuff for the one-on-one, for the face-to-face, for the big reveal.

2:44So loads has been going on. I think it's safe to say that we should start with the hen do that I went on a couple of weeks ago because I've been dying to tell you all about it. So hold on to your knickers. Oh, God. Because things are about to get spicy. Right. Right. So it's my best friend, Ali. It's her daughter that's getting married. Can you believe I'm old enough to have a daughter that's getting married? Yet that you're going to friends' daughters' hen do. That is a new stage of life. That's wild, isn't it? Yeah, it is. So a lot of Gen Zs. She's 27. all of her mates used to work with her at Soho House so they're sort of ranging between 25 and to 30 so I did feel like I would have to bring my A game with it right and then I saw the itinerary so I'm just going to give it to you in brief so one o 'clock start lunchtime nice great in a drag brunch at Dalston Superstore in London really really fun yeah the first thing some of the drag queens said when I walked in they were like hey diva are you trying to take over and I thought fucking right now so we were really going for it doing shots drinking frozen mugs that was really fun then we got in a stretch pink limo hummer and she had a mic like a what they called what they called like mag magna what they called megaphone magnaphone such an old lady they had one of those she was like out the window going hey you red rucksack crimes against fashion wheel wheel i was fucking dying the mother-in-law is there as well by the way oh my her name is booth she's very very posh from Gloucestershire oh my god so immediately I was like I knew what was coming when we got back to the suite so think let's set the scene it's four o 'clock in the afternoon yeah there's 25 of us girls and gays yeah having some drinks playing this game called uh slap a cock yeah so I came second in where you had to chuck like a rubber willy yeah a poster and if

4:34Georgia Dayton: you hit it in the crotch you got 100 points I'm surprised you didn't like win I definitely you You can't really win when it's not your head and do. Oh, I thought that. I thought this was coming. I was like, Zoe admitting to come second is something I've never, ever heard ever in my life. It still pains me. She's practicing in her bedroom. Dozza, Dozza, stand there. Then there's this. Yeah. And I'm like, someone went, fuck, it's a security guard. And I genuinely thought my career was over. I was like, this is how my career is going to end. This time I'm going to be cancelled. Anyway, in walks Gary the stripper, okay?

5:14Dresses a security guard, the music starts playing, and I fucking lose it. Like, I have seen strippers before, so I sort of thought I knew what I was going to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen stripper before?

5:26Georgia Dayton: Yeah, Hindu strippers, yeah. Right, and Hindu strippers. Yeah. Have they ever got completely naked? Once, and everyone was shocked. Genuinely, I am still thinking about Gary's penis. Do we think the mother-in-law is still thinking about Gary's penis too? A hundred percent. She's telling all of her Gloucestershire mates about Gary's penis. Okay. Gary's penis. Okay. I'm just going to play you. So he's doing the dancing. He's very considerate, by the way. This is the most respectful stripper I've ever seen in my life. Checking in with Lula, who's the bride-to-be. are you wearing underwear before I chuck you over my head?

6:08Is it okay if I gyrate on you? Yeah, that's fine. She was up for anything, right? He's standing there with the, is it a St. George's flag? You know, the white with the red cross? And he keeps going. Well, he keeps saying, are you ready? By this point, I'm thinking I've been waiting fucking half an hour for the crown jewels. Just give it to me, right? Listen. One, two, three. Oh, my God. Oh my God, it's huge.

6:38Oh my God, it's huge. Gary is from the Dream Boys. So Gary isn't your average stripper. He is A star. The elite. Top of the class. The elite stripper. So thank you to Gary for coming on and giving us an actual, I mean, I'm still not over it. Anyway, so we're clearing up. And it's weirdly at this point, just me and Gary. oh yeah my cue the music i don't see nothing wrong sorry i'm actually putting together a show i wonder if you want to audition and tim turns around to me he's my gay best friend and we're just in the in the suite and everyone's gone out for a vape or whatever and he said he just whispered he goes for goodness sakes don't ask him any questions because at this point he's still naked trying to gather his things up so i felt quite sorry for him i felt like in a motherly way that I wanted to help him get dressed.

7:32Anyway, so I just turned around to Gary and went, Gary, so how do you make it hard for so long? And I'm slightly concerned about the colour. And he went, oh, it's all right, love. I've been penis pumping in the corridor for 10 minutes. He has his dick in a penis pump. 10 minutes outside. And then he went, it all got a bit weird when the guy bringing ice up to the suite caught me in the corridor. He got caught by the hotel ice guy pumping in the corridor. Oh my God. Rumor has it, Gary's penis is still in the corridor now on the floor. But he also strapped a cock ring and eight condom rings round the base of it to keep it hard.

8:13Georgia Dayton: Oh my God. So much goes into this. But imagine being a hotel guest on your way back from, you know, doing a bit of shopping in London. And you're like, oh, there's a guy with a penis pump in the corridor. That's what I'd be concerned about. I too. Imagine if you took a wrong turn. I know. With your kids. Oh, God. Don't bring the kids into it. Jesus Christ. Okay. So anyway, that happened, which was just brilliant. And then when I was covering for Amanda this week, we were about to play Hardman's Hardest Quiz. Excuse the pun. I thought I was going to be playing against Charlotte. And I said, morning, Charlotte.

8:56And Jamie went, it's actually not Charlotte. it's Gary the stripper from your hen do and they got Gary on the breakfast show oh my god I completely lost it completely lost it because also I didn't know what he was gonna say yeah like what were we doing oh my god what what did they get him on for oh just to surprise me and to chat about what we were like as like a group of hens and where he said we were very well behaved oh okay fine um

9:22Georgia Dayton: take a breath oh my god that is would you like me to get gary to come in because your birthday's coming up no i i think i'm okay have you ever had a lot of times um not for a very long time i remember going to a rugby club once with my mom and lucy and her mom and we didn't know that it was like full-on strippers and we were very young like 17 and of course they got us up and imagine that in front of your mum. Oh my God. Were these the rugby players? Because I feel like I've been in scenarios like that before. No, it was like at a rugby club. We were paying them all.

10:01What are your thoughts on male strippers? Because, like, hats off to Gary. He then went from that show and went and did his Dream Boys night. So he's, like, booked and busy.

10:11Georgia Dayton: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Whatever. Like, that's, I don't know. I don't really have any thoughts I'm just thinking if that's what they want to do that's what they want to do no no no not on their not on their choice of career on like how do you like if someone organised because I was doing SJ's hen do wasn't I like five years ago and I'd booked a stripper for her in Ibiza and then 24 hours before some of the other hens got a hold of me and said she is going to hate this you have to cancel the stripper so I cancelled him and he was really upset about it yeah I mean I don't really I don't like love strippers like I don't know do you know what I mean it's still like I don't really care like if in the at a hen do I'm not offended no do you know I think some people are oh my god one of the girls couldn't look yeah I was gonna say I know that some people feel quite like strongly about it I don't feel like that I'm like you know everyone this is a place yeah I'm really glad I didn't have one at my hen do I didn't want one I really didn't want one things did get slightly weird at the box oh yeah do you remember when I was taken into that private room yeah That was weird.

11:15And I suddenly thought, what's going to happen in here? I need to get out of it quickly.

11:17Georgia Dayton: Yeah, that's not somewhere you want to be taken into a private room, is it? Not as a nearly married woman. Maybe as a single woman, it could be quite fun. We'll be right back after this short break.

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12:54Welcome back to this episode of Made by Mamas. Now, where were we?

12:58Georgia Dayton: What else has been going on? Strippers, hendos? Nothing. Everything else feels pretty boring. after that. Tell me about you. Axel started his new school last week. How have we gone from strippers to schooling? Well, you know, let's change the subject. He did. He started a new school last week and I think I touched on it on the Q &A that it was a very quick decision. But I didn't really go into like, had loads of questions like, oh my God, you took him out like halfway through a year and all of this stuff. It wasn't a light decision for us. It was a quick decision. I felt sick like for the whole week before he started of course like it wasn't that rash do you know what I mean it was considered and we did think it through and I definitely did feel really uneasy about it um but he's in he's been there for two days so far I'll say it's a lot is it a lot it's a lot go on what do you mean like I think I thought that the admin of the old school is a lot and it's not.

13:57Georgia Dayton: I mean, it's intense and full on. I think maybe it will feel like that at the beginning because it's your first week at the school. I feel like I've got no idea what's going on and I'm so grateful to the Mums WhatsApp group. I really am. Have you made some new mates? Yeah, well, to be fair, I knew some of the parents anyway because Axel's been playing in a football team with them. So I sort of knew them. Actually, James knew them more than me because he's at football more. So I knew of a lot of them. But we are definitely like fresh meat. Do you know what I mean? Fresh meat, fresh meat. It is funny because everyone is being so nice.

14:30Georgia Dayton: And I'm like, obviously, lovely. And I'm really grateful to everyone being really nice. It would be awful if everyone was horrible. But you know, you're like, we're like the proper new, like we're the new ones. We're, you know. The wonderful thing about you, George, is that in the opposite to me, where I'm a Labrador puppy and will match somebody's energy. So if someone's giving it, I'll just go bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. You are always a little bit like, you're not like that. So are you giving, like, Are you being super duper friendly, George? No, probably not. I think I'm being awkward.

15:00Georgia Dayton: I'm really sorry. I did explain to one of the mums yesterday. I was like, I'm not rude. I just don't like jump in. I'm like a assess from a distance, then step in. I'll give you an example. Obviously, you guys know George really well. So this is an example. If Georgia and I come to these podcast days, I'll look at George. And the first thing I'm like, oh my God, you look so beautiful. Your hair looks weird. And George sort of looks at you. And inside, I'm immediately thinking, fuck, does she like my shirt? What does she think about my hair? And you just, you love it. You just don't, you wouldn't be the person to say it straight away.

15:34No, I don't.

15:35Georgia Dayton: No. It's weird, isn't it? No, no, no. I do then. You do? I do, yeah. I'm, yeah. Yeah, I'm not standoffish. No, you're not standoffish. I don't, yeah. Anyway, I explained it to one of the mums. Yeah. She was like, oh, I'm the same as that. Oh, great. And I'm like, oh, good. Okay. because I thought you were standoffish, but you're not. You're just like me. Yes. So we're fine. Yeah, it is funny, though, like getting into a new dynamic and a new thing. Yeah, of course. And are you planning on ditching the old mums from the other school? Oh, yeah, who are they? Fuck them. No, I mean, Gigi's still at the other school, so it's not like that.

16:13Georgia Dayton: But, yeah, it's been a big change. I mean, God, I don't know. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, he wanted to go. It wasn't us. he wanted to move he wanted to be with the different boys and whatever but it's yeah like two weeks in going away for you know a week oh my gosh yes so we're talking we were talking earlier on before we hit record about the kids going on residential yes I wonder if this is happening across the board in schools across the country I think it's this sort of time of year isn't it correct yeah and Kit's just got back from his first residential and he's young to be going on one seven yeah that's young I think he went away just did two nights and he That's a lot.

16:50Georgia Dayton: How did you feel about that? Well, in my mind, I thought I'd be absolutely fine about it. And then as the days were approaching, I was getting more and more nervous, but didn't say anything to him. And then this was so beautiful. And I just want to say, Kit has grown so much recently. He really is coming on leaps and bounds and understanding his emotions a bit more. And he's communicating and we're not getting these big explosions, which we were getting maybe six months ago. And the night before the resi, he said to me, I was tucking him in and I said, how are you feeling about it tomorrow? are you excited and he said I am excited but I'm actually feeling quite nervous and I thought gosh I hope he hasn't picked up on my energy and I still what are you feeling worried about and he said it's just the loo situation that's so funny and I said what do you mean he goes well like what's the process at night and I said because he always without fail will go for a wee in the middle of the night every single night but he drinks so much water at the back end of the day I just think they don't drink that much when they're at school yeah anyway so I said well because they were in mixed dorms as well.

17:49Georgia Dayton: Oh, wow. Yeah, so he said, like, what do I do? And I said, well, what do you not do? And he said, wee the bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, okay, we've got that one nailed. And I said, just creep down from your dorm, your bunk bed, creep out, find the loony goes, what about flushing? Like, we really went in. It was so sweet. Oh, interesting. Good question as well. Good question. Because at home, I don't think you'd flush in the middle of the night, no, because you wouldn't want to wake everyone up. Exactly. And I said, if it's, what's the phrase? I think I said something like. number two if it's clear isn't it something like basically essentially if it's wee don't flush if it's a poo make sure you do the big the big button yeah yeah so I said that to him and I said for goodness sakes don't leave one of those turds in the loo without washing without flushing yeah he had no issues no problem he absolutely loved it but they only slept for about he said that they got four hours a night oh my god he said this is what I'm worried about like I think I'm quite chill about a lot of stuff but this I'm like I think it's because he's never been on a residential before and why not?

18:53Georgia Dayton: they just know this is what I'm saying I think Seven's really young I don't know if it is anyone listening I'm not sure I've got no idea but he's never been on one before it wasn't a thing it didn't exist? no oh so it would have done in year six I think they did a residential in year six in his old school yeah I thought ours was common I don't know I've got no idea yeah no idea like what sort of age but yeah so he'll be he's nine and he's going on one for five nights is it five nights yeah but i think when axel was kit's age he was still wetting the bed yeah when you said that so i'm like oh my god if he'd been then i don't know what we'd have done well there are lots of kids that didn't go were there that's interesting yeah when i say lots actually that's incorrect i reckon there was probably about 10 that didn't go oh right yeah but i guess there's And I think in Axel's new class now, there's only 20 kids in a year.

19:48Georgia Dayton: There's only seven boys in a year. Right. It's so small. I think there's like one or two across the two years that go, that aren't going. Yeah. I mean, I'm fine about it, but it's more like now I'm like, oh, God, like those sorts of questions, like wing and the nut, like flushing, like all these things. Anyway, we'll see. It was interesting. And what really made me giggle, because obviously I packed him up and you have to label everything down to the underwear. So I labeled that, stuck all these little stickers in. Anyway, I said to Kit, I was like, you've got four pairs of clean pants, bud. So I was like, you're away for three full days.

20:20I was like, you've got four pairs of clean pants. Opened up the suitcase. What did I say?

20:24Georgia Dayton: Still four pairs of clean pants. He's literally worn the same pants from Wednesday. Yeah, no washing. No. Like, yeah, teeth brushing. Does that happen? I don't think it happens. I don't know. But they had a really, really good time. He loved it. And Luna goes tomorrow. Oh, wow. So she's off. She's away till Saturday. so she's away the entire week. So yeah, similar like, yeah. Right, okay. I'm going to take all of the learnings from you. Here's a bit of a realisation. How amazing will it be? Just one child. I know. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Just one kid. I might even give her the week off school.

20:58Georgia Dayton: Georgia, you cannot do that. I won't. Is she going to sleep in the big bed with you? I don't know. We've actually had a bit of a drama with her at the weekend. Oh God, what's happened? She's not my best friend today. um so she did a dancing show at the weekend right and it's like they her dance school the one that she went to Paris with they do dance moms a dance like a whole um school show every two years it's always like a really big thing so she's only actually done one before she'd be like had rehearsals on Friday night she had rehearsals all week last week and then on Saturday they did a matinee and an evening performance yep so after the evening performance she was supposed to have a sleepover with her friend Isabella she's older she's year six so she's 10 going on 11 but they're like family friends so Isabella's come to watch Gigi in the evening with me but the mum has messaged me like oh Isabella's a bit unsure about having a sleepover she was supposed to be Isabella was supposed to be sleeping at yours yeah at mine yeah um like I told her like to let you know if she wants to come home and I was like yeah cool fine she had stayed two weeks before and I actually took her home in the night because she finds it difficult to fall asleep and so Gigi's like six years old and falls asleep in four seconds whereas you know like an older kid on a sleepover wants to stay up chatting so then Isabella's just there like with everyone asleep in the house like oh anyway so I'm like okay fine whatever you know let me know drop you home we pick Gigi up after the show she sees Isabella she's buzzing ah you know you're coming for a sleepover you're coming 10 at night at this point and I said to Isabella what do you want to do shall I drive this way and I'll drop you home or do you want to come back she turns around to Gigi she's so sensible and she's like Gigi I think um I'll go home tonight we'll sleep in our own beds but I can come around straight away in the morning um oh Gigi goes right I'm not joking 15 minutes straight 15 15 minutes straight.

23:04Georgia Dayton: No. She was, I've never known anything like it in my entire life. Oh, no. I was like, obviously Isabella's like, okay, Gigi, I'll stay. And I was like, no, no, no, no, don't back down. Don't back down. Don't back down. So I'm just driving with a, I'm not joking, a full on screen for 15 minutes. Isabella's trying to tame the beast. Isabella is thinking, oh my God, what have I done? I'm going, it's not your fault. Like, it's not your fault. Oh, no. It's fine. It's fine. Then the mum comes out, pulled onto their driver. Mum comes out in her dressing gown. I'm like, oh, hey, you're right. Bit of a problem.

23:38Georgia Dayton: Gigi jumps out of the car. This is like 11 o 'clock at night by now in a residential, very quiet street. But she's possessed. Possessed. She was screaming. She was kicking stones. I was like, oh, my God. How did you handle that? I did not know what to do. So me and the mum are just standing there like, and I'm going, Gigi, should we go? Should we get in the car? She's going, I don't like you. Like, honestly, I have never seen anything like it. So I sort of like coaxed her back into the car. I'm thinking, just get me off this driveway. Get her into the car. Close the car. I swear we drove five yards.

24:25Georgia Dayton: And she was like that. Oh, yeah, tiredness. Oh, my God. I woke up in the morning and I told Axel about it. And he was like obviously desperate, like, oh, you had very well behaved last night, were you? You know, he was waiting for her. The old smug eldest child. She acted like nothing had happened. Really? She was like, what are you talking about? No. I'm thinking, I'm being gasseted. What? I look like I'm lying. I told James and Axel, I was like, oh my God, I thought that was a lot. I walked in like exhausted anyway from having to watch four hours of freaking dance show. On a Saturday night. Saturday, having to go out for dinner with some of them as well, like where they're all hyped up.

25:00Georgia Dayton: It was a horrific day anyway. Then having that, I literally come in and James is like, oh, it can't have been that bad. And I'm like, no, no, like literally trust me, it was awful. Wakes up in the morning, denies all of it. Gigi's gaslighting you. She is literally, she's denied, completely point blank denies it. There's only two things for me. And you know what you're like. Gaslight or she's a psychopath. Well, we've said this before. We have. We've said that there have been signs. There have been signs. But she's just point blank denying it. And I just can't, I don't feel the same. I can't shake it.

25:31Georgia Dayton: Every time I look at her, I'm like, I can't believe what you've put me through. And you're literally like predicting like nothing happened. I don't know what to do here. I swear to God, there's like a film or documentary about like a tiny little psycho that starts off killing birds and then the household pets. Great. And then denies. Then denies it. Then denies it. Brilliant, yeah. I just need Isabella to like confirm that that did happen. You know when you're like, that did happen? When you're alone with her, the child psychologist in me is saying that maybe you should have a quiet chat with her without shame.

26:03Do you actually remember? Or like, can we talk about what happened on Saturday? Yeah. Or we just, I tell you what, this is another good idea. If it happens again, you've got to record it because you need proof. Yeah, that's true. To take to the police.

26:16Georgia Dayton: Yeah, I mean, what am I recording it for? But I do feel quite uneasy with her at the moment. I'm like, God. Yeah. But she is only six and she can't hold her emotions at the moment. Oh, no. I know. I know. I do know that. But it was a lot. Like it really. And also the other thing is I'd been really judgy in my head earlier that day. God, it was karma. That's what it was. We'd picked the kids up after the matinee performance and we were going out for dinner with another mum, her daughter, another mum, two daughters. So four kids and three mums. And they were being really badly behaved. The mothers?

26:52Georgia Dayton: No, the kids. The kids have been really badly behaved. And I was like, oh my God, for fuck's sake, can you just shut up, just behave yourself? In my mind, obviously, not outwardly. And I said to Gigi, I was like, you know how to behave, make sure you behave. And she's like, good as gold. And they're like, whoa, wow, what did you do? And so then I'm like, in my mind, well, you need to do that with your kids, get hold of them. And then that happens to me later that night. So actually it's all karma. That's karma that's come to get you. That was karma. I think with those big explosions, it does leave you feeling actually quite shocked.

27:29I feel drained. For a couple of days afterwards. Because let's be honest, in what other sphere do you ever have to deal with somebody being absolutely okay and then doing a complete 180 with their personality? It's like being in the car with a tiny dickhead stranger.

27:47Georgia Dayton: Yeah. I know. Imagine being screamed and shouted at by someone so badly. And then the next day, they are like nothing happened and you have to be normal with them. No, seriously. So this has gone on in our house. I'm not going to tell you which child it was. But one of my children decided to not get out of their cricket kit at the weekend so that I could wash it. So Saturday afternoon, I've had a big week of work and this child, one of my children, comes back in. I said, oh, do you mind just getting out of your kit so I can wash it? no I don't want to and I was like but I'm doing a dark load yeah so if you could just get out of your cricket kit so that I can wash it and so that it's ready you can wash my stuff tomorrow I just went excuse me I was like I'm not your washerwoman skivvy I was like I'm doing a dark load now please can you get changed this sparring went back and forth back and forth back and forth and I thought what the fuck is actually going on here please will you just get changed so that I can do your washing.

28:44I don't want to spend my Saturday doing your washing. No. I could think of 10 million other things that I'd rather do than do that.

28:50Georgia Dayton: Yeah. And eventually, I had to speak to Doz to say, look, not getting out of a cricket kit, can you please give me a hand here? She lost it. She, yeah, we're always running after dad, X, Y, Z, and I just thought, what is going on here? Yeah. I found it quite difficult to re-engage because of the way that I was spoken to. That's the thing, isn't it? That's exactly what it is. Should we just get over it like that? I don't know because I think when they're really little it's easy to get over it well they come and give you a cuddle don't they afterwards yeah and it's like cute again and all is forgiven I think as they get slightly older I mean Gigi's not that old six but still I've seen the turn now I'm like I can't I feel traumatized still I get it and I try but it you do feel yeah you feel quite uneasy and actually like should they know that there's consequences from being a dick like they need to know like they do of course there has to be consequences you can't just be like oh yeah everything's fine now and also i think i look i've never we've never we're not sitting here telling anybody how to do it because we all handle it and actually when they're having those big explosions or they're talking to you we're always told keep calm but i think sometimes they need to be told to get in the car stop screaming and behave themselves rather than like oh is it going to be okay you know I probably could have handled that situation better and been a bit firmer yeah from the offset to be like no you're getting out of your cricket kit do it now please yeah actually this whole gentle parenting thing is really confusing I know it really is it's confusing like you we're told all the time like to be to them on a level to do this do that and then when it doesn't work you've got nowhere to go Kit looks at me sometimes and goes I am the boss of you oh great brilliant and In my mind, I think, fuck, you actually, you might be.

30:39You're like a tiny little dictator telling me what to do all the time. I've got to get a grip of this. Otherwise, I'm at the house and they're living there.

30:45Georgia Dayton: Yeah, I mean, we're all scared of Gigi in our house. Like, literally. She sounds quite terrible. We actually all are. Like, we all are. Like, you know, Axel looks at me and I'm like, don't say anything. Don't look at her. Don't look at her. We're in one of those. And he knows. He's like, right, okay, right. And even James, who is like a terrier, like, doesn't leave things. No. Yeah. He even now is like, okay, fine. Cool. I'm out. But we are creating, we could be creating the narcissists. No, we probably are. I think we should just go away on holiday and not come back. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot for us.

31:22Also, if you've been shouted at this week by one of your parents. Parents. Oh, God, wait till I tell you about my bloody parent. Oh, God. One of your children. We really empathize with it. Yeah, we do. No one else is yelling and screaming. Dozler always says to me, he's like, well, you just don't get it because you work in this industry, you know, where everyone's really nice to each other all the time. And it's all fluffy and it's all kind of showbiz. And I'm like, he's like, I have to deal with this kind of shit every single day with what I do. So people yell and scream at him all the time on the phone.

31:48People are aggressive. So he's kind of up for it. He's like, yeah, bring it on. He doesn't care.

31:54Georgia Dayton: Yeah, maybe it's an us thing because I find that really hard. I hate any confrontation. I know you do. I really don't like it. but maybe I need to get like a bit tougher to it. We have never had an argument in 10 years. In fact, we just recorded a podcast and I challenged Georgia on it. She backed down straight away. I can see what she's just doing now. It's really easy. What's going on? What do you want? Fine. I'll give it to you. No problem. So my mum is coming over. Yeah. Should I bring her into one of the podcast recordings so she can hear? Oh my God, maybe we should. No, no, no. She's not coming on the camera.

32:31She could just sit with Mark.

32:32Georgia Dayton: Oh, yeah, of course she could. No, but don't it be funny to ask a grandparent anything? Can you imagine her responses? It'll be gold. I'm feeling this. I'm feeling it. Darling, just do you. Yeah. Sunshine and wine, dipping your feet in the ocean. Don't worry about the kids. That's exactly what she'd say. Maybe we all need some of that. Well, if you want us to do an Ask Us Anything with Shushu, Ask a Granny Anything. Oh, my God, that'd be so funny. Genuinely, she would incite people to just dump their children and go on. Right, okay. Maybe we shouldn't. Maybe that's where we get cancelled. It won't be strippers.

33:08I think that's quite a nice end. Yeah. She arrives in two weeks. I'll see what her availability's like. I am looking forward to this. Oh, we could get my mum and your mum.

33:17Georgia Dayton: My mum will not do it. She'd do it for me. She loves me. No, she won't. My dad probably would, but my mum would not. Oh, God, I can't put those two in the room together. We can't have my dad. No. No, no. We'd also, yeah, no. No, no, no. We'll rethink that, guys, and let you know. Definitely not. As always, we'd love you to rate, review, subscribe, and please give the podcast a follow. Yeah, and if you've got any feedback on this episode or guests you'd like to hear from, topics you'd like us to cover, drop us a DM on Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummers, and we'll be back on Friday.

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