SERIES 19: Episode 1 - Joyce Lee, Molecule 01, Wellwear, Jacqueline Gunn, Ali G, The Pitt

0:06Michael Douglas: Oh, wow, look at this. We've got professional, professional set up.

0:12Davina McCall: I think we should kick off by talking about the Naughty Nuns.

0:16Michael Douglas: Yeah, you can kind of see them. They crop off a little bit, but let's talk about them. So where did you find these? so these pictures here

0:27Davina McCall: are by an artist called Joyce Lee and I first found her on the Instagrams

0:33Michael Douglas: do you know what I might do you talk and I'll pan up so they can see them if you're listening to this then you won't be able to see it obviously but there are some pictures behind us of what can only be described as naughty nuns so go onto YouTube and watch and you'll be able to see them I'll pan up on the camera

0:52Davina McCall: basically this one this nun's got airpods in and this one's got a pierced tongue and this one's got a pierced nipple but i just love like i love the idea of a naughty nun and joyce lee does brilliant kind of erotic drawings some of them are quite full-on so i'm warning you if you're easily shockable don't go and look at joyce lee's page just be aware that Some of it's quite full-on sexy, but I loved these because it was like a really good series of naughty nuns. And they look brilliant.

1:28Michael Douglas: It's very you because you've often described yourself as half nun, half wild. Wild child, yes.

1:33Davina McCall: So I am a naughty nun because I was brought up by my granny, but also by my mum. So my granny was the nun and my mum was the wild child. I didn't stand a chance, basically. No.

1:47Michael Douglas: So when I was a young lad, I was a glass collector in a nightclub.

1:51Davina McCall: Oh my God, I've heard such good stories about this.

1:53Michael Douglas: It was called the Leyland Hippodrome. And it was run by a transvestite DJ called Gina Taylor. Brilliant. And she would open the night by saying, my name's Gina Taylor, my friends call me G &T. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? Otherwise known as a cock in a frock. but one of the jokes that he would do at night he'd look at three girls and he said there's three nuns down there can't get none don't want none and never have none and you'd have to go around and collect the glasses mouthing the jokes as they came out because they were the same every night but it was brilliant and wait just tell us what you wore I had to wear denim hot pants god why haven't you still got those and a nylon green day glow crop top sounds amazing it's a hippodrome across it amazing and it was basically like a sex festival from what I remember but it was and how old were you?

2:53well I was 16 16? I couldn't pull a pint

2:55Michael Douglas: so I was 16 to 18 me and Matt Huff basically collected glasses there and it was the only place that stayed open until midnight

3:02Davina McCall: big shout out to Matt Huff by the way Huffy, he was my best mate but yeah it was great days really But whenever the word nun comes up, I can't not think of that joke at that time. Well, naughty nuns. Now, whenever I say the word nun, I'm going to think about you in denim, hot pants and a crop top. Yeah. The first thing I want to talk about is this. I am so excited by this. You can't see what this is probably properly. But I am. I've worn the same scent forever, except on my wedding day when I wore Joe Malone.

3:35Michael Douglas: You wore a wedding scent.

3:36Davina McCall: I wore Joe Love's. yeah yeah okay yeah just get that right so um i interviewed joe malone on my podcast and she offered me a service where on just before my wedding day i went to joe loves and she they did a whole thing for me and i chose my wedding scent and every year on our wedding anniversary which is soon it is yes um i will wear that to remind you of our wedding day yeah because i'll smell different that day. I'll be like, what is that smell? No, you won't. You'll love it. I'm feeling anxious today. What is that? Hang on. I was looking at you thinking, do you? Do you? So anyway, I wear Molecule 1.

4:20Davina McCall: I have done for years. Yeah. And I must have talked about them on this pod or on something because they sent me some stuff. But I didn't know they made this which is a little like it's like it's called an atomizer but really perfume bottles are too big to have in a handbag but look at this you you turn the top of it and the bit comes out of the top and then you can did you hear that spritz asmr asmr ASMR you can you can like literally fit this in any handbag you could fit this in one of those tiny little handbags that you take out for dinner party yeah yeah you know this is mega this is life changing and it comes with refills so if you're thinking for a present for somebody they need to be quite a special somebody because it's not cheap molecule but it is it is a scent that I get into a lift I can't necessarily smell it on myself but everyone asks me what I'm wearing.

5:29Davina McCall: It's so weird.

5:31Michael Douglas: It is very you. I mean, basically we've been together about eight years or something. Yeah. You just always smelt of that.

5:37Davina McCall: Yeah.

5:38Michael Douglas: I just thought it was your smell. It is now. You smell.

5:43Davina McCall: I have made it mine.

5:44Michael Douglas: Yeah. Do I have a smell?

5:45Davina McCall: Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, yeah. But can I tell you something so funny? Yeah. I don't think David Beckham makes it anymore, but he brought out...

5:53Michael Douglas: Instinct.

5:54Davina McCall: a scent and it was kind of quite cheap it was

5:58Michael Douglas: I used to get it in Wilco's in Wilco's I think I've talked about it on this pod about three or four years ago

6:02Davina McCall: we've talked about it before and it's amazing you put some on yesterday because your mum keeps finding it I don't know how I don't know how she finds it she's amazing but honestly she keeps finding it and I'm like oh my god that smell is so good

6:17Michael Douglas: it was a deodorant and then you obviously did an aftershave but my favourite combo was Grey Vetiver by Tom Ford oh I love Grey Vetiver and the David Beckham deodorant. Whenever I put those two on together, people were like, bloody hell, you smell good. What? Do they? Yeah, yeah. What? Men and women. What? I know, it's outrageous, isn't it? Before I go into anything, we should probably say... Hi. Hi to everybody. We have been away for such a long time. I had a little listen to our last episode. Oh, did you? Yeah, I didn't get through all of it, but I listened to a little bit of it. and one of the things we talked about was Brandon Flowers' new record oh yes and then we finally went to see him but before oh my god it was so good before we go into that I'm just checking my hair

7:04Davina McCall: no

7:04Michael Douglas: yeah

7:05Davina McCall: unacceptable it's not unacceptable

7:08Michael Douglas: I think it's like your hair yeah go there do that I'll just do that use it like an Alice band yeah like that there you go great I was on the Amanda Wakeley podcast recently oh yeah If anybody's seen that or not, or listened to it, thank you. But I kind of amusingly talked about a facelift.

7:29Davina McCall: Oh my God, it turned into a thing.

7:30Michael Douglas: It turned into a thing. It's so funny. It was kind of a joke. I mean, I would quite like to look younger, and I would like a little tuck there, and I probably will at some point. But that segues us into making the cut has had a facelift. Do you like that? I love that. a facelift has taken place on making the cup. It feels so good. Yeah, you're right. I like partridge when I get going. Literally. So, yeah, we've decided to have a little facelift. We've got a new icon. Yeah. And it's orange. And that's what I thought would be good to do on this orange sofa. And there's a little link towards that.

8:05Michael Douglas: But it is nice to be back. We're going to try and film every episode we do. And that will go on YouTube. So, if you'd like to subscribe and all the things that you do.

8:13Davina McCall: So, basically, you have to like and subscribe. Like and subscribe. And subscribing, it is worth saying, doesn't cost you anything. This is a free podcast for you to access. We don't want it to cost you any money, but when you subscribe, it really, really helps us get YouTube's attention. So please, if you can, just click the subscribe button and like this episode. It just makes a big difference. It makes a big difference. And thank you.

8:40Michael Douglas: That was so Stephen Bartlett.

8:42Davina McCall: Yeah, but that's where I learned how to do it.

8:44Michael Douglas: He really does it, doesn't he?

8:45Davina McCall: On Begin Again. Yeah, yeah. No, but do you know, he has started saying it doesn't cost you any money. He got that from me.

8:52Michael Douglas: Did he steal that from you?

8:52Davina McCall: Yeah, because... You should bill him for that. Because I said, people my age, if I hear subscriber think it's going to cost me something. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to start telling my followers, who are my age, that it's free.

9:06Michael Douglas: Very good. Yeah. And then we've got some other things coming out, which we'll talk about towards the end of the show. But we have a live show coming, ladies and gents. we've actually booked it haven't we so I'll briefly tell you now it's the 30th of November and the 7th of December there's going to be two live shows and they will be in Soho at the Underbelly Theatre we will put tickets in clicking the link in bio at some point this week but I'll tell you more about that at the end but it'd be super nice to see anybody who wants to come and yeah it'd be great it'd be probably about an hour and a half and we'll do our podcast.

9:43Michael Douglas: Some people can bring recommendations. We can get you up on stage and you can do them. We'll laugh a lot. Yeah, and we'll maybe give away a few things as well. Yeah, could we sing?

9:52Davina McCall: We might play you some tunes. Play some music. Yeah, yeah, we'll play some music for sure. We could sing something if we wrote something. I don't know, like... I don't know, like... Do we make the cut?

10:03Michael Douglas: Yeah, do we make the cut? Our own cut? Yeah. So we're really looking forward to that. It'll be really good. And we'll try and do more shows next year. We just thought we'd try and get a couple in before the end of the year.

10:12Davina McCall: We thought we'd test them out. Now, the first thing I want to talk about, because you've talked about perfume. Yes. I'm wearing a top. Oh, God, yes. I interviewed this man.

10:23Michael Douglas: And I'm also wearing his undies.

10:25Davina McCall: Yeah, I saw them on you earlier. They're nice.

10:27Michael Douglas: Yeah, right.

10:28Davina McCall: Do you know what is interesting is that it's actually quite hard to find good underwear for men.

10:32Michael Douglas: I've got to be honest.

10:33Davina McCall: And I've got to say, it's, like, nice.

10:36Michael Douglas: That's great, isn't it? Yeah. It's very, very good quality. Do you know what? it's called Wellwear by David Gandhi. But I thought it was called Wellaware and I thought it was from Paul Weller at first. I thought, oh my God, Paul Weller sent me some, he called it Wellaware. And I was like, oh no, no, hang on a second. Anyway, I was equally delighted. But David Gandhi wrote me a letter and it says, Michael, it was great to see Davina earlier this year. Welcome to Wellwear. Some of our newest and core styles to add to your wardrobe. Hopefully see you both soon, David. How nice. How nice is that? How nice.

11:15David Gandhi.

11:16Davina McCall: Just to give a bit of context, David Gandhi is a male supermodel. And he was, no, but he was like the first of his kind. I mean, Times Square, like, enormous sort of underwear model. He was the body. And he was a very nice guy. Lovely to interview. interesting and actually I've got to say the stuff he's brought out is incredibly good quality

11:45Michael Douglas: what's the price point John Smadley um I don't actually know should we have a quick yeah let's have a look peek it's quite interesting because obviously he's had to come up with a name yeah where you can get the domain and then the trademarks and all that stuff and it's so interesting running a business so davidgandywellware.com can we also just say big ups to the Gandhi for bringing out clothing that is in small. Yeah, yeah. And the small is a small. The small is a small, yeah. I wonder if he does extra small. Have a little look. So there's a lot of casual wear in there. Yes, it's comfy. It's comfy.

12:23Michael Douglas: It's kind of home wear, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So a top is£35, which is not particularly expensive. And when you feel the quality of it. Yeah, yeah. A lounge straight pant is£45. It's not particularly expensive. It would be nice for Christmas. It's so nice. Wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah. So anyway, David Gandy, thank you so much. Well done. And can you just have a quick look and see sizes? Do they do an extra small? Yeah, yeah. Let's have a little look. I bet they don't. No, small. No. Small, but the small is a small. Yeah, small is good. It fits you. And I am small. Yeah, yeah. So thanks very much indeed for that.

12:53Michael Douglas: Shall we look on? I'd quickly like to talk about Jacqueline Gunn,

12:56Davina McCall: because I was sent some books today, and Jacqueline has sent me three of her books, and this one's called The Little Book of Menopause, and she's done The Little Book of Motherhood and the little book of grief in the menopause one she says thank you for getting us all talking about menopause and making us realize we're not going completely mad and this is actually funny and good and true so um on chapter one it says google a message to google am i dying losing my mind or is this the menopause and then underneath she's written it was 2 14 a.m naturally i decided the internet was the calmest place for look to look for answers it wasn't and then underneath in small letters it says nothing good has ever come from diagnosing yourself in the middle of the night and then chapter two is doctor your results are normal underneath it says wonderful could somebody please tell my body because it appears to have resigned without consulting me and then underneath that it says normal results do not make what you are feeling imaginary it's very it's brilliant because these are things that happen to all of us and these are like husband are you hot no i always sleep naked on top of the covers with the window open in december sometimes sarcasm is the only breathable fabric available so if you know someone who's menopausal or you are menopausal buy this book jacqueline gunn uh the little book of menopause and this one's called yeah the book of grief read something from that because um she said in the one um read what it says in the one at the beginning at the front oh she's read it to divina because sometimes the smallest books hold the biggest feelings so this one is about grief so chapter three says the disbelief knowing that someone has died and believing it are not always the same thing oh wow that's interesting yeah part of you may still expect the key in the door, their name on your phone, or their footsteps in the next room.

15:02Your mind is not refusing the truth. It is learning something too enormous to take in all at once. Wow. Yeah. God, that's fascinating, isn't it? Isn't that good?

15:19Davina McCall: What were you thinking about then? We have a friend of ours at the moment who's going through a breakup and I was just thinking about how difficult it is for them. And a thing that came to my mind was that your feelings aren't aligned with the reality. That is the grief in a way, is that the way you feel and reality itself are not correct. And you have to wait for that to align for then you to be released from the grief in some way. I realise that sometimes grief never goes away, you just learn to live with it, but it is allowing it to become real. And that's just what that reminded me of, really, and it just made me think, oh, God, yes, it's that thing, isn't it?

16:06Where all your feelings are, they are still around, and they're not. It made me think of my friend whose husband died. Really, yeah. It's very strange, the conflict between what you feel and what is real, and sometimes it just takes time, really. the other two to meet yeah and it doesn't matter how hard you make them meet they'll only meet when they can

16:30Davina McCall: you'll love this one she's done another one here to Davina here's to motherhood the love, the chaos and everything nobody warned us about she's great and this one says the little book of motherhood chapter one child I can do it myself mum and underneath she says I know that was always what I was raising you to do I just didn't realise how much I would miss being needed. Yeah, gosh. And then underneath that, children grow up through a thousand tiny goodbyes and we rarely recognise them until afterwards. Mm. I mean, that's how we both feel, right? Yeah, yeah. There's one here on photographs in the grief book.

17:10It says you may study photographs for details you once overlooked. Oh. Yeah, you may be unable to look at them at all. Both responses come from love. Oh. Images will wait. there is no deadline for remembering in a particular way um it's really interesting you showed me something yesterday now you'll have this with you with partners and relationships is that you often tell each of the same stories and you allow each other to do it in some ways you think i already know you've told me this a lot but i'll let you tell it because you're enjoying telling it and i will just go along with it you know and you'll often pull out a scrapbook or a photo album and you say Michael sit down let me show you this and I think you've shown me this a lot and then you look at me on a horse here when I'm four or something and I'm like yeah and that's my that's Pippi and I go yeah yeah I know you know anyway you brought out a scrapbook yesterday and you went I probably showed you this before and then you went through it and I was like I have never seen this scrapbook before and it was fucking brilliant because I was like oh my god I don't have to pretend this is a real these are real expressions you know like and it was so good it was all the old flyers from clubs you used to run and everything it was so brilliant and there's a very funny photograph of the bus pass that i got yeah um on the day i found out that i didn't have

18:35Davina McCall: a record deal and i'd gone thinking that i was going to be taking taxis for the rest of my life I then realised I needed to get a bus pass that was very very good but yeah it was interesting and that little thing about photographs I think one of the I was listening to he's a political commentator on the ITV I can't remember his name now on the ITV he was on BBC for a long time anyway he'd lost his wife to cancer and then I listened to him do a Radio 4 documentary about how he misses his wife you know it was brilliant to hear somebody really go into detail and explain how it felt but he said one of the greatest things is when someone tells him a story about his wife that he's never heard before and he said she comes back to life in that moment yes so he said a lot of people are afraid to talk to you about your wife but he said that's the thing I've enjoyed the most out of this terrible experience was when somebody says oh I used to work with your wife and there was this time where she did this that and the other I have that with Caroline.

19:40So it brings her to life in a brand new way because you've never heard the story before. And then he said it's the same if somebody shows him a photograph of her that he's never seen before. It's like, wow, you know, boom, a new feeling, a new memory, a new experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just thought it was really interesting about the photographs there. I often do that when you look back at old photographs, just look at the background and all the things, you know, the kind of light switches and stuff like that. when you give them a photograph of somebody they've never met they look at it they are looking at everything oh god they are looking at their eyes their eyelashes their eyebrows what's in the background how are they smiling what kind of smile it's so beautiful yeah watching someone unpick just a photograph and all the information that you can get from a photograph where were they what were they doing?

20:36I was struggling a bit last week and I'd asked if we could have a kind of easy weekend this weekend where we didn't do very much. And we did that.

20:46Michael Douglas: And I've had such a nice weekend. Well we really needed it I think. We were shattered. We were broken I think. You took me to Pizza Express last night. I know how to treat

20:58Davina McCall: my husband. I love Pizza Express so I was like fucking delighted. But it was both of us acknowledged how we haven't been out just casually. Just the two of us. Just the two of us for a long time. And then we went to go and see a film. We did. I took you to the cinema. You took me to Pizza Express. I took you to the cinema to see Ali G. I've got to just say, it was profoundly disturbing and brilliant. Totally fucked up, wasn't it? It was like, what is going on? And what is really interesting is that I wasn't sure how it was going to be. No, me neither. There was something odd about it. It was almost like it wasn't like a movie.

21:43You just happened to be watching it in the cinema. It was something you probably could have watched on YouTube or something. I remember thinking, is this a movie? Is it worthy of a cinema?

21:54Michael Douglas: Did you? Really? Did you? Yeah, I did. Oh, you did think it was? I did think in the end it was, but I struggled for a while. Because I really, really thought it was. I think, is the quality good enough? Oh, I see, of the film. Yeah, the production values and stuff. Who is I? Who is I? Yeah, that's right. He goes on a journey of self-discovery. One thing I would say is that we've got a very good friend in Morgana Robinson.

22:13Davina McCall: Oh, my God, she's such a boss. She plays me Julie. Oh, my God, she is so funny. So that was arguably the main reason we wanted to see it, really. We love her. To see Morgana in a movie because you sound bloody brilliant. We love her so much. But it was funny, it did make me laugh a lot so it did make the cut and I would recommend it. It made me laugh out loud and I ended up sort of talking to the guy next to me. Yeah, I know, I was just getting a bit miffed about that to be honest. I was like, alright, you can speak to some random fellow I've met before. I was like, oh my god. It was one of those films where you had to...

22:45The premise is basically, and they reiterate this at the end but at the beginning of the film they say none of the people in this film apart from the lead characters are actors they are all real people

23:00Michael Douglas: and they are not in on it they are not in on it that's the big thing about it and what happens in the film and what happens with the people makes you like recoil in horror like it's put a cushion over your eyes and I think one of the reasons why we were thinking oh look at the production values what's going on is that he had to make it look like it was shambolic they couldn't have a state of the art Hollywood film crew no I don't suppose so you're right about that it couldn't have had high production values the people would have guessed

23:44Davina McCall: that this is some kind of this isn't what we think it is it just gives you a little insight into like some human behavior as well the fact that these some of these people who are not in on it went along with it and you have to go and watch it really to to see that yes you're gonna see it to believe it i can't believe you would have done that but i said it was a little bit like hypnosis where you get on stage and you know you you're gladly eating onion and pretend it's an apple in front of a thousand people yeah because once you're in it you can't not go through with it and it was like oh god you could see the concern on the contributors faces i think should we be doing this but they go along with it anyway it's a real derren brown style stuff and the other thing i thought it was interesting was when one person said i'm not doing this then it gave the strength everybody's permission but until one person said it was like people were looking around going is this okay they kind of knew it wasn't okay but they didn't know how to yeah reverse or get the hell out of there.

24:49Yes. It was so fascinating. So, yes, that film was absolutely mad.

24:56Michael Douglas: But it was great. Just on the whole, it was like a date night last night. Yes. And I loved it. It was very nice, wasn't it? And when we got home, we got home about 10.30. Yeah. Me and Davina are locked in a TV series at the moment. Yeah, oh, my God, it is so good. and it was me mate Andy who makes all the content at MD London with me he said oh you should watch The Pit it's on Now TV which is HBO essentially or Sky if you've got that and it's Noel Wiley who was a young doctor in ER back in the 90s with George Clooney and all that stuff is it Noel? is it yeah I think it might be Noah Noah Wiley that's it yeah yeah so it's quite interesting seeing him a doctor again because it's a little bit like he's never not been a doctor yeah now he's just in his 50s but he's so good at it oh my god he's got heart and intelligence emotional intelligence and he writes it and and he's directing some of the episodes all over it yeah yeah it's his show and it's really good how old is it oh it's just it's got two seasons so I'm guessing it must be two or three years old it's so Oh, so good.

26:14So we started watching that. So the premise is, it's an ER room in Pittsburgh. Philadelphia. Is that where Pittsburgh is? No, let's have a look. No, I was saying... It was near Philly anyway, because they talk about Philly quite a lot. That's what I thought. And it is filmed.

26:30Michael Douglas: Each episode is an hour long, and it is an hour of the show. So a bit like 24. Remember 24? It's really, really good. I mean, I was obsessed with 24. Yeah, I love 24, yeah. But I really like that concept because you do properly get a feeling of the flow of what's happening. And then immediately it starts. You go, oh, yeah, OK, I remember they were looking after this guy. Yeah, yeah. And it just carries on. Wait, tell me about the girl in it who I absolutely love. That's Bryan Cranston's daughter. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's a particular doctor in there. She's so good. who seems to be a bit neurodivergent, I think.

27:09She's obviously got... She was talking to one of the autistic kids and saying that she'd be good with the autistic kids because she understood. And so I think everybody in the ER room is beginning to understand, oh, OK, she's... Yeah, she's got some quirks, essentially, but brilliant skills in certain things. She's brilliant, yeah. But it was my son that told me, he said, oh, yeah, that's Bryan Cranston's daughter from Breaking Bad, you know, and I was like, holy shit. But she's brilliant in it. She really is. There isn't anybody in it who's not very good. Everybody's superb. What I love about it, I think, is you are, as the viewer, forced into the conundrum of each situation.

27:48Yes. So there's a brilliant... And you have to make... You're making a decision as well, right? Yeah. So there's a brilliant kind of storyline in it of a pregnant doctor that an underage girl comes in for an abortion with what appears to be her mother, but it actually turns out to be her auntie but she's pretending to be her mother because the mother can consent to the abortion and the pregnant doctor is going along and said yeah fine well you just take these pills and all that but then the real mother turns up and her sister's a big kind of fight and she said my daughter is not getting this abortion and the doctor is now in this how can I help this person get an abortion and at what point do you cross the line because the mother needs to consent The mother's determined that the daughter should have the baby.

28:37And all the while, this woman is having her own baby while potentially trying to take the life of one, you know. And there's kind of a brilliant and quite traumatic end to that situation. But you as the viewer are a bit like, oh God, if I was in those shoes, what would you do? So there's 10 or 20 of those. We're on episode 12 at the moment. Really good. But you find yourself thinking, oh God, what would you do in this situation? And then there's the life-saving bit of like, how long do you keep going until you're sure they're dead? Oh, the bit with Noah, why are you doing that on the last episode was so painful.

29:22And everybody knows that something's happened in him where it's not about this patient. Yeah, it's about something else. Yes, yeah. There's also... Watch it. There's another young doctor. Where can they find it? Oh, sorry. Now TV. Go on. Yeah, there's another young doctor in there who loses a patient very early on in the series. And, of course, he just doesn't want to lose another. So either that's skewing the way he's treating other patients and all sorts of stuff. And the fact that there is an absolute massive shooting disaster in the middle of the day. Yeah, yeah. and he's trying not to lose someone in that.

30:02You know, like, oh, God. 30 casualties just probably, you know, all those. Anyway, it is really good. It's on Now TV. They're about 45 to 50 minutes long, an episode, and... It's so worth it, honestly, isn't it? We couldn't recommend it high enough. And I would say stick with it for three or four episodes because you might kind of... Then you get invested. And then you're just like, okay, I can't wait. So we're about to get in the car to drive Manchester. Manchester. So we'll watch a couple of episodes in the car. I've got such a nice little thing. This is quite quick. But this is called a digital care package.

30:35And it's boxofgoodies.littleweb.world. And look at this. On the page, it says digital care package. And you can say who it's to and who it's from. and then inside a little box of goodies um they give you a choice of things to that you can add so if you hit on the typewriter you can send a note if you click on the camera you can send a photo and a note if you click click on the cd you can send a song or a video or a gift or just a voice note but it's but it's all little things and then you put it into your cart and then at the end of it it says thank you for caring and then it says send your package, get your link, generate the link and then you copy the link, put it in the email and they open it up and it's all presented as a care package for someone.

31:36So say someone's not very well or something, like your kid, you can send them their favourite song. Oh yeah, great, great. It feels like more of a gift, a loving thing than you just sending them the song. It's in a kind of care package.

31:56Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah. That is so nice. Isn't that nice? I'm going to finish off with this. Yes. This is a great friend of mine from the past. Oh, yes, I like this. Suzanne Duckett, who was a kind of beauty editor of all the big flashy magazines back in the day. So when I used to do press trips with Weller and Procter & Gamble, you'd take these press journalists away and Suzanne was always on it. We also spent a festival together with her and her fellow. So her fellow's called Andy Freelander, I think he's called. And he was a producer of the Chris Evans Breakfast Show and Virgin Radio. And so we went to V Festival, V2000.

32:33Wow. And we were in the Virgin Radio tent, if you like. Yeah, it was brilliant. and guess who was in the Virgin Radio 10 Paul Weller

32:43Michael Douglas: sadly not but Ocean Colour Scene were the next best thing yeah where I first met Steve Craddock oh and they played the acoustic set we've got a big ups the Craddocks all of them the entire family Sally Steve we love you and I think there's his son called Cassidy I think he played the flute and the piano and all yeah he was amazing they'll still be on tour so we're going to go to the Union Chapel to see them next year. They were so good. But guess who else I met? Who? Coldplay. No, what? Yeah. What? Parachutes time. What? I stood in a queue with Coldplay to get a baked potato. No. Yeah. Why? Wait.

33:27She started a big curly hair. You're telling me this happened 26 years ago? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is the first time you've told... Is this the first time I've told you this? I literally, I can't fucking believe that.

33:39Michael Douglas: Yeah, no, no, no. What in true, you saw, you met Chris Martin in true life. In a big potato queue, yeah. Shut the front, who else was there? Yeah, all there, Guy Berryman and Bill Champion, they were all there, yeah. Because we were in this enclosed virgin radio area, so it was just full of the bands that were performing. Oh my God. It was a brilliant gig, because Paul Weller was second to last on the main stage. So he was there? He was there, but I didn't meet him. But they pulled the plug on him because he played for too long. And he really kicked off. I love Paul. I love Paul. And then Richard Ashcroft headlined.

34:17And it was bloody brilliant. Anyway, I was there with Suzanne Duckett and Andy. And then we've crossed paths loads of times. And they're good friends with Seb and Heidi. I met them recently. Anyway, she's launched. Well, both of them together have launched a magazine because that's the business she was in. She was a brilliant writer. And it is a London-centric magazine, I would say. So I'm going to talk about it briefly now, and then they're going to come to one of the live shows. And we're going to put some in goodie bags. Oh, great. And there's a couple of features in here. And one of them is with...

34:46Can I just say, even from the get-go, turning the pages, it looks so nice. The photos. I mean... It's gorgeous, isn't it? Yeah, she was something else. Was it she, Kate?

34:58Michael Douglas: So it's an old-school magazine, essentially. And what I mean by that is if you remember... But it's such a nice magazine. reading magazines and how bloody nice they were. Yeah. And this has got loads of fantastic articles in it, and we are in it. We're in it. And this is one of the reasons we ended up talking about it, really, is we are in the back page here on the Love-O-Meter. Oh. And we were asked questions independently of each other. Oh, I haven't seen this. Yeah, yeah, this is it. How did we score? I think we scored pretty well. Look, we're on the hot. Oh, look, we're in the red. Nearly up to sizzling.

35:29But one of the questions I thought was quite good, it said, when did you last use public transport? and you were like, yeah, like two minutes ago. You know, it's so funny that people think that you wouldn't get on public transport. We're on buses and tubes nonstop all the time. And then there were some really good questions about what would you have for dinner? I said a chopped salad. Oh, yeah, well done. You said a chopped salad. Oh, my God, well done. The one I'm a bit, it was a favourite film quote. And you said, we should have got a bigger boat. Yes. but I couldn't stop thinking about you with the kindergarten cop Ronnie Schwarzenegger thing what does he say?

36:05with your daddy and what does he do what does he do yeah that was the one I'd said that you would say but anyway it's a lovely little article with us in the back and then there's loads of things in it you can subscribe to this

36:16Michael Douglas: it's a subscription it's obviously online and you get the physical copy but like I say I really really really like that and I really really like physical copies and can I just make a statement here That's yours. Thank you very much. My pleasure. Thank you. I'm going to read that on the way up. I also really, really like physical people. I don't want places to close. I don't want banks to close and not give us people. I want to talk to people. I don't want mechanical everything. Please don't replace everybody. I need to talk to people. I need her to talk to people as well because I'm really tired.

37:00okay we're going to leave it there folks we will be back next week we're in Manchester filming a new TV show

37:07Michael Douglas: that's going to go out in what January February January on a Saturday it's your TV show but they're actually going to include me in it I'm going to sneak in from the side of the camera every so often but please please don't be better than me no no no you're allowed to be as good as me but please don't outshine the bride no there's no chance of that you're brilliant welcome it's great to be back everybody we love you the live shows tickets will go on sale very very soon so the 30th of November and the 7th it'll be around 7pm in London in Soho and it'll be about an hour yeah probably about an hour and a half an hour and a half but it should be good fun and interactive and we'll do some singing and dancing and stuff like that and so will you tickets will go on sale soon and we'd love to see as many of you as possible Yes, please.

37:58Bye.