Sam Altman’s 7 trillion dollar chip mission, Jack Altman raises 150M for Alt Capital, and You’re wasting your time creating content for social media

14 Feb 2024 · 15 min

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Podcast Summary: Marketing School Episode #2677

Episode Overview

  • Title: Sam Altman’s 7 trillion dollar chip mission, Jack Altman raises 150M for Alt Capital, and You’re wasting your time creating content for social media
  • Hosts: Neil Patel and Eric Siu
  • Description: In this episode, the hosts discuss Sam Altman’s ambitious plan to raise $7 trillion for a chip initiative, Jack Altman’s successful fundraising for his startup, and the pitfalls of content creation for social media in a saturated market.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Sam Altman's Chip Mission
  2. Objective: Sam Altman aims to raise a staggering $7 trillion for a chip mission.
  3. Skepticism: Neil Patel expresses doubt about the feasibility of raising such an amount, suggesting that a more realistic target is between $5 to $10 billion.
  4. Marketing Strategy: The discussion touches on a marketing concept called "anchoring," where an initial high number sets expectations and makes other amounts seem more reasonable.
  1. Jack Altman and Alt Capital
  2. Fundraising Success: Jack Altman successfully raised $150 million for his venture fund, Alt Capital.
  3. Career Transition: The discussion raises the question of whether entrepreneurs should pivot to venture capital after their business ventures.
  4. Reality of Venture Capitalism: The grind of being a venture capitalist is likened to entrepreneurship, emphasizing the challenges and long-term commitment involved.
  1. Platform Risks in Digital Marketing
  2. Meta's Changes: The hosts discuss how Meta cut off third-party access to Facebook groups, affecting many businesses.
  3. Importance of an Owned Audience: Emphasizes the need for entrepreneurs to build their own audience and diversify marketing channels to mitigate platform risks.
  4. Omni-channel Strategy: The importance of not relying solely on one platform for marketing efforts is reiterated.
  1. Content Creation Misconceptions
  2. Quality Over Quantity: A critique of the poor quality of social media content is presented, where data shows a high percentage of posts receive little to no engagement.
  3. Rising Standards: The bar for content quality is noted to be increasing, necessitating more effort and creativity from content creators.
  4. Content Saturation: The sheer volume of content being created daily across various platforms (e.g., TikTok, YouTube, Facebook) makes it difficult to stand out.
  1. Targeting Your Ideal Audience
  2. LinkedIn Advertising: The hosts discuss leveraging LinkedIn thought leader ads to connect with an ideal audience, using targeted campaigns for better reach and engagement.
  3. Lead Generation Challenges: They address the struggles agency owners face in generating leads and retaining customers, highlighting the need for effective marketing strategies.

Key Takeaways

  • Feasibility of Fundraising: Ambitious fundraising goals may be more about creating a narrative than actual expectations.
  • Venture Capital is Challenging: Transitioning from entrepreneurship to venture capital is not as straightforward as it may seem; it requires significant effort and dedication.
  • Content Quality is Crucial: In a crowded content landscape, producing high-quality, engaging content is key to standing out and achieving success.
  • Diversification is Essential: Relying on a single platform for marketing is risky; businesses should aim to diversify their approach across multiple channels.
  • Effective Targeting Can Improve Leads: Utilizing targeted advertising on platforms like LinkedIn can help businesses reach their desired audience more effectively.

Conclusion In this episode of Marketing School, Neil Patel and Eric Siu provide valuable insights into fundraising, the venture capital landscape, the importance of quality content, and effective marketing strategies. They emphasize the necessity of maintaining a diversified marketing approach and the continuous need for improvement in content creation as the digital landscape evolves.

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0:00Sam Altman is trying to raise 7 trillion dollars to go on this ultimate chip mission. seven that's with the t everyone just so context for everyone a trillion is a thousand billion and then a billion is a thousand million so take that into account that's a lot of money that's a lot of money i don't think he's trying to raise seven trillion dollars i don't think anyone thinks he's trying to raise seven trillion dollars he's putting a big number out there and i bet you he'll be happy if he gets five to ten no five to ten billion yeah yes he's not gonna get more than five i could be wrong but i doubt he's gonna get more you know what do we call that in marketing?

0:36You aim for the moon. That works too. Anchoring. Remember the book Influence? Yeah. So when you, let's say you go buy a jacket, it's like$500 on the price tag. But then I come up to you, I'm like, hey, Neil, it's actually$100. You're like, oh. Seems cheap. Wow. Deal. I got a deal. Oh, it's not$7 trillion. I got to put five to 10 trillion. This is a steal. So this is the ultimate, the ultimate anchor from Sam. Yes. That's really what he's trying to do. And funny enough, his brother just recently announced at the same time that he raised $150 million for Alt Capital to invest in startups. And he was like, dude, just let me have this week.

1:09Did you see him tweet at Sam Altman? He's like, let me just have this week. And then he ended up putting a Photoshop version of a news article that he's like, he raised trillions of dollars for his Alt Capital. It was funny. So let's talk about here's the thing. So Jack Altman there's, Jack Altman has Lattice, I believe. That's the startup that he has. It's an HR startup. He's a chairman. He's no longer running the company. Oh, got it. Okay. I didn't know that. Yeah. So, so now he's, he's raising money to go do more stuff. Like, no, he already raised the money to do more stuff. Okay. So he raised the one also raised$75 million for, I believe the university of Michigan early last year or two.

1:46So I think this is worth talking about too, cause we've kind of talked about this before, but it's like, you know, these is the next calling after your business. Should you go raise a fund? Because in 2020 to like 2022, everyone was becoming a VC. Everyone was raising a fund and you had like these solo capitalists as well, right? So is that the right move for everybody? I think most people have it skewed. A lot of these guys don't start a fund after they're an entrepreneur or they're done being an entrepreneur. They're investing a lot while they're an entrepreneur. So they have a track record and they've made some good bets and then they go and raise a fund.

2:23But people oversimplify it and they make it look as everyone starts doing it as if it's easy. It's not. So I have this buddy. His name is Andy. I'm an investor in his fund. It's called Unlock Venture Partners. Andy sold his first company to Aquaniv, which ended up turning into Microsoft. Microsoft ended up buying Aquaniv. And then his second company sold to Vizio, the TV company. They did well as an entrepreneur. He had an amazing track record as an angel. I don't know what his returns were, but let's call it 30, 40 % IRR. It was something ridiculous like that. On a big number too. Yeah, and he's done a ton of deals.

3:01And his cash returns were amazing, right? Which is very important because a lot of people on paper talk about the returns. His cash returns were amazing. So then he created this venture fund called Unlock Venture Partners. And I remember Andy telling me before he started Unlock, he's like, dude, being an entrepreneur is such a grind, exhausting, a lot of stress. And he's done well as it. He's raised quite a bit of money. He sold businesses. and then he started a venture business and then he's like, dude, it's a grind just like being entrepreneur all over again. Everything's a grind. Everything.

3:36You got to meet up with investors in certain countries. They require you to drink to get to know them. And I didn't know this in certain countries like in Asia and China. Did you know you can have a drinking buddy who drinks on your behalf so you don't have to drink as much? Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that too. I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. So I don't have to be the one that needs to be like - Yeah, he's like, you can actually have someone who drinks on your behalf because I'm allergic to alcohol. So I don't really drink. Yeah. And he's like, dude, it's a grind. Is that what you say now?

4:03You're allergic to alcohol? I am allergic. I am too. You know, when Asians turn red, you're actually allergic, but you don't turn red. I don't turn red, but you've had a hangover, right? Yeah. I think most of us have. If I take a little sip, like you take the, you guys can't see here unless you're looking at the video version on YouTube. That's why I subscribe to YouTube. But if you take this bottle cap of Mel, it's tiny. If I take a sip of that, I have a hangover within the same feeling, but within five minutes of drinking that sip. Okay. I like that line though. I'm allergic to alcohol. I'm going to use that in the future.

4:35No, I think there's something wrong. I can't take a sip. And it happened post COVID. So during COVID, I never really drank a lot anyways. Pre or post vaccine? None of it during COVID. So what I mean by that is during COVID, I never drank. Yeah. And then when things started to open up, I started taking a sip of alcohol. Forget having COVID vaccine or anything like that. The moment I took a sip of alcohol, my body reacted really poorly. And I think what happened is I went like a year without drinking any alcohol. So my body just built up intolerance. They're like, nope. Same with like milk. When I was a little kid, I could drink milk.

5:17Now I can't drink milk. By the way, we're not saying bad things about vaccines, but you know, just to set the record straight. So that's interesting. I didn't know that. We'll talk about it more afterwards. Did you want to finish your thought? But no. So what, yeah, what Andy was getting with being a venture capital, he's like, dude, I'm grinding it out just as hard as being entrepreneur. And what most people don't realize is I'm an LP in quite a few funds. People who are VCs, they make good money typically 10 years after they started their first fund. It's a seven to 10 year grind. It's a long cycle and people forget that.

5:52Yeah. Look, not everything is as easy as it looks and everyone is in the business of serving their customers. So no matter what you do, you can't just get away and work in like a cave. By the way, Neil and I have an agency owners group called the Agency Owners Association. All you have to do, just go to marketingschool.io slash agency. Once again, it's marketingschool.io slash agency to learn more. And now back to the show. This one's interesting. This kind of ties in with the last episode we did around Tucker Carlson, where he starts his own media brand, but he's also diversified on X on YouTube.

6:29He's got his own website. And so I'm looking at a tweet over here or a post, and Meta just cut off third-party access to Facebook groups, killing a bunch of companies in the process. So the founder of one company, Post My Party, said, I will lose seven years of work and over 10 ,000 customers. It's a multimillion-dollar loss. This is from a guy. What did Meta cut off? I'm confused on this. Third-party access to Facebook groups, killing a bunch of companies. Oh, got it. Yeah. So this guy's tweet or Twitter handle. But they're not killing groups. They're not killing groups, but I think. But they're killing the people who are taking all the data from groups and then creating their own communities outside of Facebook.

7:03There's not enough here, but I mean, we can see how this might affect people. But this guy niched down says platform risk is very real. So when you think about Reddit's changes to their API pricing, right? Like, you know, there's a tool I used to use or an app I used to use called Apollo. and that had 1.5 million active users on it. That change alone killed the whole thing. And I think it was doing like maybe 10 or$20 million a year or so. Twitter changed our API pricing, right? Yeah. Charging 42K a month. That killed loads of third party apps. So it's just like, there's a lot of platform risk.

7:34And that's why I always recommend that you build out your email list, you build out your SMS list, you build something where you can control it. To an extent, you have control over your website unless Google decides to like, you know, hit you with a manual action. But you know, those don't happen often as long as you don't do anything stupid. Dude, and when you think about platform risk, what Eric and I are talking about is you just got to be omni-channel. We've talked about that a lot. And we're not just saying that for social, we're also saying that for things like email or SMS or even SEO, because a platform could change your rules.

8:06And then people are like, oh, should I just not invest any time into these channels? And it's a big misconception. And I tell people, funny enough, that they should not waste any more time creating social media content. People are like, what? What are you talking about? And I tweeted about this the other day, but check out these numbers. This is a number of content that's published on a daily basis on each platform. TikTok, 23 million. YouTube, 216 million. Facebook, 350 million. X, 500 million. LinkedIn, 2 million. Instagram, 95 million, right? So when you look at the amount of people that are creating content on a daily basis, it's so much and when we did analysis of over 5 million social media posts 5.2 million 59.41 had no engagement no likes no comments no shares nothing and it doesn't mean that social media is bad platform it just means people are wasting their time because they're creating crap content just like in a last episode we talked about the morning brew founder talking about how you know most content sucks.

9:10Yes. NBC is losing subscribers. Business Insider is right. TechCrunch is. And the reason they're losing subscribers is because their content sucks. And on social media, people are just creating shit content and they're expecting to do amazing. It just doesn't work. If you're going to create shit content, don't create content in the first place. You know what the other problem is? The other problem is, I was talking about this the other day where I was interviewing a YouTuber and the bar for content is getting higher and higher. Like five years ago, when you and I would publish stuff, maybe two minute, four minute video where we're just wing it.

9:40That might do really well. Now it's like, no, you got to go like, these are now 15 minutes. These are no longer five minutes, right? We've had to adjust. So the quality for free is getting a lot higher. And it's like, what gives you the right to charge paid for like crappier content than free. And it's not just, Hey, Eric and I are spending 15 minutes per episode instead of five minutes. How much more time do we put in to figuring out what we're going to talk about before our podcast? We actually prepare now. Like there's a sheet that we send to each other that we have to fill out. We have to bring it.

10:10We have to bring good ideas. We have Brad from recordeditpodcast.com. And he helps set everything up and we're in person. Like I have to drive, right? There's like a lot more effort that goes into this now. And money. We spend more money to produce a podcast. We spend more time. We prepare more. And that's what's happening with content. There's just so much content being created on a daily basis. And just look at these numbers that I pointed out earlier, right? From 23 to 500 on X to 350 on Facebook. It's just so crazy on the amount of content that's just being uploaded. And I get there's a lot of duplication, but you have to compete with a lot of people and a lot of noise out there.

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13:36And I think for people starting out, that's pretty good. It costs more than that. Okay, fine. Maybe like$100 a day. I've tried it, by the way. That's how I know it costs more. Yeah. Or let me clarify. It costs more, at least in the United States, different countries, different places. It works decently. I won't say it's going to be a game changer, but I think for those of you that are getting any semblance of traction, or you know who you're trying to target, and you know you do well on LinkedIn, like why not spend the extra, you know,$100 a day or so? Because a lot of people, you know, when we do the agency owners association form, 99 % of people, okay, 95 % of people, what's their number one struggle?

14:09Closing deals. They need more leads. Yes. Yeah. Number two struggle is going to be retaining customers if I had to take a guess. Yeah. I mean, we were just talking about on the phone yesterday. It's like what the churn for these agencies is like 50 to 80 % in a year. Yeah. That's not a business. It's not a business. And then some of them are like, oh, I want 5X my money. Well, I'm like, well, if I give you 5X and you're generating all the leads, what's going to happen next year? Oh, what will happen next year is I'm going to lose all my money. Yep. So anyway, that's it for today. By the way, please don't forget to rate, read, subscribe.

14:37And then if you want to apply, you can just go to for agency owners association, marketing school.io slash agency. We'll talk about that maybe in the next episode. So goodbye.

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In episode #2677, we discuss Sam Altman's ambitious plan to raise $7 trillion for a chip mission and Jack Altman's fundraising efforts for his startup and philanthropic endeavors. We also explore the trend of entrepreneurs transitioning into venture capital and the challenges and misconceptions associated with starting a fund. Emphasizing the importance of being aware of platform risks and diversifying marketing efforts across multiple channels, we delve into the complexities of these strategies. Additionally, we share insights on the content creation landscape, highlighting the need for high-quality, engaging content to stand out in a saturated market.   Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube!   Check out more of Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT) and Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT)    TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: (00:00) Today’s topic: Sam Altman’s 7 trillion dollar chip mission, Jack Altman raises 150M for Alt Capital, and You’re wasting your time creating content for social media (00:17) Neil doubts Sam will get more than $5-10 billion. (01:42) Jack Altman raised $150 million for alt capital. (02:06) Is raising a fund the right move after your business? (03:35) Being a venture capitalist is a grind. (06:31) Meta cut off third-party access to Facebook groups. (07:29) Platform risk and the importance of building your own audience (08:12) The misconception of social media content and the need for quality (09:19) The impact of creating poor content on social media (09:54) The increasing bar for content quality and the effort required (10:52) The challenge of standing out in a crowded content landscape (11:27) Using LinkedIn thought leader ads to target your ideal audience (12:03) The struggles of agency owners and the need for more leads (12:27) That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more!   Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review.   Connect with Us:    Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel  X @ericosiu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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