Why The Creator Economy Ended Up Being A Dumpster Fire

9 Jul 2023 · 7 min

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Podcast Episode Summary: Why The Creator Economy Ended Up Being A Dumpster Fire

Podcast Details

  • Title: Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips
  • Episode: #2506
  • Hosts: Neil Patel and Eric Siu
  • Description: The episode delves into the challenges and shortcomings of the creator economy, discussing factors that led to its struggles, monetization strategies, and important considerations for content creators.

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Key Highlights

Introduction

  • The discussion is set against the backdrop of a noticeable decline in venture capital funding for creator startups.
  • A market projection indicates a drop of over 90% in U.S. fundraising for creator startups compared to two years ago.

Definition of the Creator Economy

  • The creator economy consists of businesses that enable individuals (creators) to monetize their talents through various means, including:
  • Subscription services (e.g., Patreon, OnlyFans)
  • Video content (e.g., YouTube)
  • Digital products (e.g., eBooks, online courses via Kajabi)

Challenges Facing the Creator Economy

  • Investment Decline: A significant reduction in venture capital investments, exemplified by layoffs at prominent companies like:
  • Patreon (17% staff reduction)
  • Linktree (17% staff reduction)
  • Substack (14% staff reduction)
  • Business Viability: The episode discusses the high failure rate of small businesses and media companies, highlighting that 65% fail within the first ten years.

Economic Realities of Content Creation

  • Notable statistics reveal:
  • A report indicates that only 16% of creators who dedicate over 10 hours weekly to content creation earn over $50,000 annually; the majority earn less than $10,000.
  • Success Stories: Successful examples in the creator economy include:
  • OnlyFans: Reported $433 million in pre-tax profit.
  • Kajabi: Surpassed $100 million in annual recurring revenue (ARR) with over $5 billion in gross merchandise value.

Misconceptions and Strategies for Success

  • Common misconceptions about content creation highlight the challenges of achieving high earnings without a substantial audience in lucrative niches.
  • The hosts suggest that aspiring creators might consider alternative approaches:
  • Focus on providing essential tools and services (the "picks and shovels" analogy).
  • Example: Mr. Beast shifted from purely ad revenue to creating his own product line to enhance economic viability.

Key Takeaways

  • Niche Importance: The size of a follower base matters less than the niche's monetization potential. Creators should focus on markets with a high total addressable market (TAM).
  • Long-Term Viability: The creator economy is not inherently flawed but has been mismanaged by overvaluation and unrealistic expectations from venture capitalists.

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Conclusion

  • The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to rate, review, and subscribe to the podcast.
  • The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding both the potential and the pitfalls of the creator economy, urging aspiring creators to seek sustainable business models.

Additional Resources

  • For more insights, visit [Marketing School](https://www.marketingschool.io).
  • Watch the episode on [YouTube](https://youtu.be/q11zGjZ467M).

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Feedback and Engagement

  • Audience members are encouraged to provide feedback on future topics and share their thoughts on the episode.
  • Connect with the hosts:
  • [Eric Siu on Twitter](https://twitter.com/neilpatel)
  • [Neil Patel on Twitter](https://twitter.com/ericosiu)

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0:00We're going to talk about why the creator economy ended up being a dumpster fire. So a couple of years ago, maybe in 2021 or so, there was a lot of VC activity going to these creator startups, right? So a lot of money was being poured into Patreon, Substack. I think for Andreessen Horowitz, they put like, I don't know how many millions into Substack. First, we need to define what the creator economy is. But first, I'm going to share this first before the first. I'm going to share this chart over here. So check this out. Projected U.S. fundraising for creator startups is down more than 90 % this quarter compared to the same period two years ago.

0:33So Q2 of 2021, boom, 2.5 billion, right? Then it drops, it drops, it gets lower and lower and lower. You can see the screen. And you can see here, here are all the layoffs. Patreon laid off 17 % of staff. Linktree, they sacked 17 % of staff. And then Cameo cut 160 people or so. Substack cut 14%. And this is just the beginning, right? So Neil, coming back to it, just to define the creator economy, what is the creator economy as I go through this? Yeah, sure. Sure. So the creator economy is people who are just, there's a lot of businesses out there that are enabling people like Eric or I or influencers out there to either create their own business or make money through any form that is just us doing stuff with our talent.

1:18So that could be recording a video that could be getting people to subscribe through a subscription, like what's only fans, the subscription Patreon is similar to that can be snooped up creating a promotional video like on Cameo. It could be you creating your own ebook products and you sell it through tools like Kajabi. These are all examples of like the creator economy. Yep. So look, this is funny. So I'm pulling this from every dot to, this is a newsletter that I subscribe to. So it says, what is a creator? A small business in general is a shitty business. 65 % fail in the first 10 years in the US.

1:51A media company is also a shitty business. Media stocks had their worst decline in 30 years in 2022. A creator is a small business that is also a media company, aka shit squared. It is important for me to note that as a creator, I am one of those terrible businesses, blah, blah, blah. So a lot of businesses also fail to even if they're not creator economies. And Eric and I don't think creator economy is bad. We think VCs overvalued them, gave them two crazy evaluations, and they just weren't realistic with their growth potential. Yeah. So here's the thing, right? I think when you raise money, what happens is people are looking for a moonshot.

2:29They're looking for 100x, right? They're not interested in like a 5x or 10x. That's just how the numbers, the power dynamics work with VC. But the point here is that when you look at who's actually succeeded in the creator economy, OnlyFans has really succeeded. So last reported earnings had the company at$433 million in pre-tax profit. Kajabi, we have a mutual friend there, company that allows creators to easily sell courses, far surpassed$100 million in ARR and has done over$5 billion in gross merchandise value. What was Olifan's revenue numbers? $433 in pre-tax profit. Wow. Yeah. So here's the thing.

3:02Linktree actually did a report recently. So this is really geared more towards the creators. they basically said that creators that were spending over 10 hours a week on content creation only like 16 of them were making more than 50 grand a year the rest were making like less than 10 grand a year right so the economics don't quite pan out you you have to be like the top one percent to make it work and so if you're going to get in this creator business i mean you're better off selling the picks and shovels only fans picks and shovels kajabi is picks and shovels as well if you're going to start a business in that space or the other thing we've talked about this on the podcast before is if you look at how Mr.

3:38Beast or Logan Paul, or you look at how Neil's doing it, how I'm doing it as well, it's we have the audience, but then we've picked the right business model to put it under. Neil, I was actually watching a new interview with Mr. Beast yesterday, and he learned that over time that getting advertisers to pay millions of dollars for each of his videos just didn't make economic sense anymore because A, they couldn't afford it for a hundred million, 200 million eyeballs. He wasn't getting paid what he deserved. and so it's like I just need to make my own products and control that product experience now and so that's why he started Feastables.

4:08Yeah that makes sense there's nothing wrong with the creator economy it's great if you're going to create something within the creator economy stick with the picks and the shovels right if you look at the gold rush the people who made the money were people like Levi's that sold the jeans that you needed if you're out in the field because the pants were rugged and they lasted or the people who sold shovels because people continually need to buy shovels. So try to be the platform or try to be the person providing all the utility. Creators come and go. And it's a tough business to succeed at by being a creator.

4:41It's what most people don't realize is if you want to be in the creator business, it's not about the number of followers you have. It's about the number of followers you have within your niche. So you ideally want to be in a very lucrative niche. For example, I have, I don't know how many followers between all my social profiles, but let's say a few million, two, three, four million, something like that. Let's go with three. I'm rounding at this point. It's better to have 3 million followers between all my social networks and a vertical like marketing that has a massive total addressable market, which is also known as TAM, where people spend billions of dollars versus having a total of$10 million and having a following people who just follow you on not going to college or how to deal with your parents or something like that, right?

5:29Those kinds of markets, just they're harder to monetize. Yep. So there's more to talk about here, but I think we can end at this note. So please don't forget to rate, subscribe, five stars, please. It helps us grow and we'll see you tomorrow.

From the publisher
In episode #2506, we dive deep into the challenges and shortcomings of the creator economy. Join us as we uncover the complexities of the creator economy and offer insights into the factors that have contributed to its less-than-desirable outcomes. We discuss the challenges in the space, returns from content creation, essential aspects content creators should consider, and much more! Join us for this eye-opening episode to gain a deeper understanding of the challenges faced by the creator economy and gain valuable insights into its complexities. Tune in now! TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:00] Today’s topic: Why The Creator Economy Ended Up Being A Dumpster Fire. [00:20] An interesting market projection regarding creative startups. [00:55] We define the creator economy and provide examples. [02:06] Reasons why the creator economy is struggling. [02:37] Examples of successful businesses within the creator economy. [03:03] We unpack reported returns for content creation. [03:25] Important aspects that content creators should consider. [04:10] How to be successful at monetizing content.  [04:42] Common misconceptions about content creation. [04:55] An example of a ‘lucrative niche’ in the market. [05:37] That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more! This podcast is on our Youtube Channel. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/q11zGjZ467M  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube! Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with Us:  Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency Twitter @neilpatel  Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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