Will Demand Boom After the Election?

2 Nov 2024 · 8 min

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Episode Title

Will Demand Boom After the Election?

Episode Description In this episode, hosts Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the economic outlook following elections, emphasizing the impact of interest rates and inflation. They also explore media bias, public trust issues, and the growing influence of podcasts compared to traditional media.

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Key Topics Covered

  1. Economic Outlook Post-Election
  2. Demand Post-Election:
  3. Eric and Neil express skepticism about a significant demand boom following elections.
  4. Discussion on Ray Dalio's insights regarding interest rates and debt issues impacting the economy.
  • Interest Rates and Inflation:
  • Emphasis on how interest rates primarily shape the economy rather than the outcomes of elections.
  • Predictions that interest rates will remain high due to persistent inflation.
  • Historical Context:
  • Reference to historical economic patterns suggesting inflation rates may rise again in the future.
  • Mention of GDP growth and inflation trends, indicating that inflation currently outpaces GDP growth.
  1. Media Bias and Trust Issues
  2. Bias in Coverage:
  3. A study reveals significant media bias in coverage of political figures, with a stark contrast between coverage of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
  4. Discussion of public trust in media hitting historical lows, with only 36% trusting traditional news sources.
  • Perception of Media:
  • Both hosts express a lack of trust in media outlets, regardless of political leaning.
  • Historical reference to how news was once perceived as an essential and trusted source of information in households.
  1. The Rise of Podcasts in Media
  2. Shift to Podcasts:
  3. Discussion on the increasing trust in podcasts as a media source compared to traditional news.
  4. Reference to Balaji Srinivasan's prediction about the next election being influenced by new media, particularly podcasts.
  • Corporate Investment in Podcasts:
  • Noted that while companies invest in podcast advertising, fewer are creating their own podcasts.
  • The hosts underline the advantages of organic conversation in podcasts over traditional advertising.

Key Takeaways

  • Focus on Fundamentals:
  • Businesses should concentrate on core marketing strategies rather than expecting demand spikes from political changes.
  • Long-Term Economic Trends:
  • Economic recovery will be slow, and businesses need to prepare for fluctuations driven by interest rates and inflation.
  • Trust in Media:
  • There is a significant shift towards alternative media forms, with podcasts gaining traction as trusted sources.
  • Strategic Marketing:
  • Companies may benefit from initiating their own podcast platforms to engage audiences more effectively.

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Conclusion The episode wraps up with a reminder for listeners to focus on their marketing strategies and adapt to the changing media landscape. The hosts encourage feedback and engagement, highlighting the need for businesses to navigate the economic landscape mindfully while leveraging emerging media channels.

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Action Items for Listeners

  • Reflect on current marketing strategies and consider how economic forecasts may affect demand.
  • Explore opportunities for integrating podcasts into marketing plans.
  • Stay informed about media biases and seek diverse information sources.

For further insights, visit the Marketing School website at [marketingschool.io](https://www.marketingschool.io).

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0:00Will demand boom after the election? I don't think demand will boom at all. You're talking about the event, Ray Dalio, and this was in Saudi Arabia. It was an investor conference. I believe Larry Fink spoke there and he talked about - That roundtable, right? Yeah. And I don't know if it was a roundtable, but I know he talked about how he doesn't think the Fed is going to reduce rates by another 50 basis points by the end of the year. It's going to be 25 is his opinion. Some other people are saying similar things, although the Fed said that they were going to do one point this year. They already did a half a point.

0:29I mean, come on. It's probably a quarter. I don't think anyone really knows other than the Fed. I'll bet you it's a quarter. But what Ray Dalio is discussing is, hey, there's a big issue of debt. And all these countries have debt. And what people believe when things are bad or the economy is bad, whether it's because we print too much money or there's debt, a lot of people believe, you know what? Harris is going to change our economy. Trump is going to change our economy. I hate to say it. None. very few of them really change any uh economies if you look at Goldman Sachs they did analysis they said there's very little difference between a Harris campaign and a Trump campaign and it doesn't matter what promises they make you still have a lot of other layers to deal with like the House and the Senate and it doesn't matter if they're Republican or Democrat or they're for against you a lot of times they have other ulterior motives and they're going to do what they want to do or they may not like what you have to do I mean Elon Musk even said it once being the president the United States is like being a captain of a very large ship with a really small rudder that, you know, it's really hard to move it in whatever direction you want.

1:36But the problem here is they're not going to impact the economy that much. There's not going to just be a big demand boom. What really affects the economy is interest rates. And if you look at global interest rates, they're high because inflation is high. And most of the people running these economies aren't going to reduce the interest rates just because there's a new president or elected official. A lot of times, the people who control the interest rates, like in the United States, run separately from the president. The president can't tell the Federal Reserve to raise or decrease the rates.

2:10They could try to have some influence, but it's really up to the Federal Reserve. Have you seen that graph that's kind of superimposed on a previous inflation graph? And so it shows kind of where we're at right now. And the graph looks exactly the same. And so it shows inflation coming down right now, right? But it basically shows in about two years or so, inflation is going to reinflate. And so Paul Tudor Jones is a very successful investor. He has said that all roads lead back to inflation. Anytime there's a big debt problem, we have to inflate our way out of the problem. Because you can't have deflation because I'm going to cut your wage in half.

2:39How are you going to afford things? It's going to be chaos. So the only solution is to inflate also because rich people own assets. So the only way is up. And he's like, okay, well, that's going to happen again. And who knows if it's next year or two years, but that graph shows two years or so. And so my point of saying all this is that it kind of just, yes, the election, that doesn't really matter. But what does matter is when you look at history, history tends to repeat itself. And that's probably what will happen, not even after this election, just in two years or so at the midpoint. And when you look at the GDP growth, I was watching CNBC the other day.

3:13I think they were saying around 2.1 % for the third quarter. when you look at that growth, our inflation is more than our GDP growth at this point. Yep. And so, you know, that's what it is. Just focus on yourself and keep moving forward. Keep focusing on the fundamentals with marketing, but don't expect after the election, there's going to be a boom in demand for all your campaigns or your products or services that you're selling. It's a very slow, long recovery. I want to take a second to tell you about my podcast co-host agency. So NP Digital. So Neil Patel Digital, what they do is they do a whole host of marketing services and they are global.

3:50They're worldwide. They have SMB services as well. They have mid market to enterprise services as well. They cover the entire gamut. So you can just go to mpdigital.com to learn more about it. And now back to the episode. Mario Naufal did this study over here. So the study says, and this hasn't been verified, but says TV news hits new bias high, 78 % positive Kamala versus 85 % negative Trump. So major networks, ABC, CBS, and NBC have delivered most unbalanced election coverage in history, Media Research Center finds. Networks spent 31 % of Trump coverage on controversies while dedicating only 5 % of Kamala coverage to critical topics.

4:28The study analyzed over 600 segments since July. The coverage gap exceeds both 2016 and 2020 elections as networks gave twice as much airtime to Trump after September debate, mostly negative. Final part, findings come as Gallup shows public trust in media hits new low, with 36 % having no trust at all. I don't know if you remember this when we were growing up, but when my parents watched the news, they were like, right? It was like the most important thing ever. But what's happening now? Do you trust the media as much? No, I don't trust it on either side. It doesn't matter what site I'm reading, or it could be Fox or CNN.

5:04I really don't trust most of the stuff on the news. And I'm not saying that they're wrong. It's just I have this biasness in my head for the same reason that Jeff Bezos pointed out. And I think media on both sides have pushed a lot of stuff out that is false. So it just makes us believe certain things. You know, Balaji Srinivasan predicted this maybe eight years ago or so. So he was that partner at Andreessen Horowitz He's a big crypto guy, worked at Coinbase for a little bit. But anyway, so he said his projection was that the next election, so maybe this is four years ago or so, he said the next election is going to be based on the new media, which is podcasts.

5:45Why is Trump doing so many podcasts, right? And so things are shifting because people don't trust the media anymore, which is what Jeff Bezos said. People are shifting over to podcasts and things like that, like independent media, right? And we've seen that shift in this election cycle, and I think it's going to continue to happen. Dude, speaking of podcasts, I was looking at corporations the other day or agencies that help companies start podcasts. There's actually not a lot of options. No. And it's such a massive channel, yet companies don't really invest in podcasting. I see more companies investing in podcast advertising versus just creating their own podcast.

6:21And we all know an ad isn't the same as organic conversation, which performs way better in a podcast. Right. Yeah. I don't know. The reason we keep doing this is one, because it's fun, but two, you build trust at scale. And then also we get so many clips from this now too. So it's good across the board. Yeah, it's good across the board. All right. So that is it for today, guys. Go to marketingschool.io slash agency to learn more about the Agency Owners Association, where we help agency owners grow. And that being said, we'll see you tomorrow.

From the publisher
In episode #2855, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the economic outlook following elections, the importance of interest rates and inflation in shaping the economy, media bias, and the rise of podcasts as a trusted media source, contrasting it with traditional media. Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube! Check out more of Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT) and Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT)  TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: (00:00) Economic Outlook Post-Election (03:09) Media Bias and Trust Issues (05:56) The Rise of Podcasts in Media (06:40) That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more!   Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next?  Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review.   Connect with Us:    Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel X @ericosiu

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