GK Barry & Ella Rutherford: From Flirty DMs to MARRIAGE?!

0:00Well, welcome back, you funny fuckers, to the podcast. Hey, on Nearly Parents Today with me, Jamie, and my wonderful wife, Sophie, you have an absolute spellbinding episode because we have Ella Rutherford and GK Barry on the podcast. Yeah, we do. Catching. Drop that freaking mic. Mic drop. We also have Jamie who can't stop sweating. Poop. Yeah, well, it's not poop. I smell fart wherever I go. Don't know why. And it's Sophie's birthday. Happy birthday, Sophie. It's going to be a big old episode today. So welcome on in and stay safe because it's going to be a bumpy, bumpy ride.

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3:14Hello, I'm Jamie Leng. And I'm Sophie Leng. And we've been married for two years. And we're having a baby. Yes, we are. Are you ready? Let's go. Welcome. Welcome, welcome to Nearly Parents. My name is Sophie Salvador. Who is Sophie Salvador? Who is that, my dearest prince? Well, it's just me pretending I'm married to Stefan Salvador. It's my birthday. I'm 28 and we've got Stefan. They all of the team here Just had Stefan Salvatore mask on Paul Wesley mask on But I fancy Stefan I don't know if I fancy Paul Wesley Okay so I'm currently wearing a mask at the moment But shall I just take it off Because it's your book Okay I'm going to take it off So how much do you love Stefan From Vampire Diaries Oh no don't tell me he's coming in How much do you love Stefan from Vampire Diaries You look weird And if he's coming in And I'm this pregnant I'll hate you all Because the first time I meet him I cannot look like this Okay so Paul Wesley Stefan from Vampire Diaries Yeah You really like him a lot right?

4:21Yes You're being weird now I know you hate surprises Don't do this It's ridiculous I go into labour It's not funny at all I know you hate surprises No I know he's not coming in Because Llewyn doesn't look Llewyn usually would have A straight face Because he wouldn't want To give anything away Ladies and gentlemen Please welcome to the podcast Why is Jake standing up? Please welcome to the podcast Paul Wesley He's coming in now don't even guys jake oh my god thank god jake just looked under a cushion because i thought you were going to open the fucking door and i was like why is he doing it so nonchalant i let me tell you excited were you about that not excited when i'm six months postpartum and hopefully like for a little bit more myself bring that puppy in but don't you fucking sabotage me right now because I like what I can't even walk I probably wet myself when he walked in like that is so cruel if he did that wait what is it about him that you love so much you just don't know you just don't know he looks nothing like me he's like it couldn't be more opposite to what I look like yeah but you fancy Kylie Jenner she looks nothing like me by the way what are you smelling then I don't know what's wrong with me but I keep smelling shit wherever I walk this is true guys everywhere we go everywhere I walk I'm smelling shit Come here, I'll show you.

5:39Because my nose is like a hound dog. Everywhere I walk, and I was having a meeting with someone, one of my friends this morning, and I kept thinking he was farting.

5:50No, don't. I don't like laughing anymore. My stomach's in so big and stretched. And this baby fills up the whole thing. When I laugh, it feels like I'm not okay. Honestly, I had a meeting, and I was like, why is my friend Cosi farting during this meeting? I swear on my life. And I was like, you stink. And he wasn't bringing it up and I was like, it's so rude. He's like doing that. And I can still smell shit. I smell like fart. Come here. I smell fart. Let me have a proper smell because my nose is like unbelievable. You don't smell anything. So you've obviously got corn nose. What is corn nose?

6:25Right. Corn nose is when you smell tortilla chips up your nose. Has anyone smelled that? And don't lie to me, guys. I know people. No, I smell fart. I want to know if anyone in this room has sniffed their nose, just been breathing away. They're in the shower, wherever they are, and they smell tortilla. Yes, I've smelled tortilla before. Okay, we're disgusting. Yeah, okay, well, Google what that means when you smell corn. If you smell tortilla chips, corn, tortilla chips, what does that mean? Here we go, I'm Googling right now. If you smell corn or tortilla chips, it means you have a bacterial infection.

6:59Yeah, it's a yeast thing. It's a yeast infection if you smell corn. Okay, so me and my friend will be like, God we could just smell corn everywhere We'd obviously like spread this yeast infection Between us and we googled it And we were fascinating but there was a solid week Is that because you'd been scissoring? I don't know You've turned so weird in this whole podcast Sometimes I see clips It was like a tick and I couldn't stop Honestly it was a tick that I couldn't I couldn't stop, I'm so sorry Okay well anyway the corn thing Is a real thing if anyone smelt corn You just got a yeast infection I'm not sure how you get rid of it But I love the smell of corn I know I just smell fart And I'll tell you something else This is just a real day to just purge all the things That are floating through my ADHD brain But since being pregnant I see things I see things Like I'm walking down the street And I see like a dog And then I look and there's no dog I'm sorry it's happening all the time And it's been a pregnancy thing And I don't want to google it Because I've been told so many times That I'm a psychic and I'm walking up the stairs in a house and I see something, a sheep in the corner or something.

8:08A sheep? Always something. I see there is something in the corner of my eye at all fucking times. And I look and it's just empty space. And I'm like, what? What do you think that is? My psychic problems are trying to come out of me, but I'm so close. I don't want them to escape. I won't really allow them to come into fruition. You don't have psychic things. I am so psychic and you know it. Okay. I want to say to you Happy birthday Thank you I love you Beyond you could possibly Ever imagine You are My favourite person In the world And the fact that we're about To have a kid together Is the most exciting thing And I know on this podcast Sometimes we Josh around And we make fun of each other And we dig at each other And all those things Underneath all of that Underneath all that Funny banter that we have On the surface There is this like Deep love That I cannot describe That I have for you And you are simply The most wonderful person I've ever met oh my god thank you so much

9:08sorry you say that why can't you just take it because there's 500 people and poor fucking Wesley staring at me give a shit no I love you so much thank you very much thank you very much so here's your certificate what do you want me to do say it back it's like you've just been made a prefect I don't know what is that that's not how normal people respond normal people can't be as loving as you are in public, I'm sure of it. It's not normal to be like that in public spaces with five people watching us. If I had my way, I would snog you all the time. I know. Everywhere we went, I would tell you how much I love you all the time.

9:43Jamie genuinely thinks I'm like really mean that I don't declare my love for him in public 24-7 by snogging him. No, we had a conversation about love languages and I said, what's my love language and you didn't even know what my love language was. No, I'll tell you what your love language is. You told me that your love language was people do acts of service because you wanted me to pay my parking bills. And so I repeated, your love language is acts of service, to which you said, no, it's affirmations, which obviously I knew. Anyway, I do want to say on your birthday, happy birthday. I see some little presents there.

10:17Okay, well, would you like your presents now? Yes. Which one would you like to open first? The big one, please. You want to open the big one first. This is so lovely wrapped. Well done. Okay, so it's a box that says chuckle on it. pregnancy belly casting kit preserve your memories forever so you want me to do um arts and crafts on my stomach i am so excited create the puppet keeps it with this unique belly casting kit we we basically get a lot of clay and put it over your stomach and we get to keep your stomach forever and we can paint on it that's really cool I don't think I'll be using that but I'll give it to my next pregnant friend are you kidding me you want me to put paper mache all over my stomach yeah and we keep the belly you know that there's a thing called instead of a baby moon it's called something and then men on their baby stags or whatever you have they drink out of the cast of the pregnant woman's belly none of that made sense I don't even know where that story went I don't even know what happened I'll cut it out then because I don't know either.

11:28No, keep it in, Yui. Keep all of this goodness in. Right, we have another present for you. Okay. Here we go. This looks like a tub of lube. Just guessing. A tub of lube. Like some lube. Take it open, read it, and weep. Vaginal tightening cream. Hydration. Lift and tighten and rejuvenate for your vagina. thank you so much and the good news is you can use that on your butthole as well you could do that they are unbelievable wait you're not even you're just throwing it at me I'm so happy I'm not going to be using some tightening cream alright well on my vagina baby I will actually honey happy birthday thanks honey how do you feel about your age how do you feel about where you are in life how do you feel about everything I feel good I feel very excited I feel like it's really creeping up that we're going to have this baby and are you feeling excited there about it I'm so excited I'm so so excited I love that it's winter and autumn like that to me isn't that amazing it's time and we're going to soon and this is your last birthday you're ever ever going to have last birthday you're ever going to have so I'm going to die what do you mean it's my last birthday I'm ever going to have no you're not going to die this is your last birthday you're ever going to have as like both of us together.

12:57It's honestly, it's every day. I'm like drinking my coffee. This is the last coffee we're going to have just the two of us. This is the last time we're going to walk down the street just the two of us. I'm like, oh my God, okay. That's the last egg you're probably going to have just the two of us. I'm so excited. Your birthday is going to be your last 30, you're going to be 37. No, stop claiming my age. You are. Just keep it anonymous. You're going to be 37. You're 39. And you look 48. Use that vaginal cream everywhere, Vazi.

13:36It's going to be your last birthday. Just the two of us. I know. I'm excited for that. Me too. Tap your toe. Because it's your birthday and because we love you, we wanted to give you some messages from some people who love you as much as I do. and so we have some that we're going to play into you right now for your wonderful birthday happy birthday honey we love you so much thank you happy birthday sophie can't wait to celebrate you with you when i get back to the uk um another year so fast and now you're going to be a mom you'll make a fantastic mom enjoy these last few weeks of sleeping i get it love you happy birthday so last birthday without the baby and now we'll be celebrating every birthday from now on with your baby i can't wait i'm so excited and i hope you have the best day ever love bella so fair it's emily happy birthday i love you so much i'm so so unbelievably proud of everything you've achieved and continue to achieve you just get better and better and better year on year on year and you're about to start a gorgeous little family and I cannot wait cannot wait to meet them so much as you know I'm your biggest fangirl and cheerleader and if anyone wants to dispute that or debate that then come at me because I promise you I'll win I love you so much can't wait to celebrate with you and sending you the biggest squeeze ever I freaking love you Sophie happy birthday love you so so much this is your first birthday being a mom which is crazy um i can't wait to celebrate with you and have the best day ever love you sophie this is your father we're sending you all my love and hugs and kisses for your birthday for you and my little grandchild.

15:37It's their birthday also, I guess. That was so sweet. Oh my god. Okay, love you guys. Thanks everybody. You're so loved, honey. And everyone's so proud of you. And you're just the best thing in the entire world. What a great day. And you're just amazing what you've done, what you've achieved just in life and in personal life and everything. You're just the greatest. Love you. Thank you. So are you. Well, now we have a very exciting episode as well because we soon to come into the podcast, we have GK Barry. Can't bloody wait And her girlfriend Ella Rutherford I cannot Wait for this On your birthday episode We have them coming in Grace to me Is one of the funniest People in the world Yeah she's She's the absolute best She's going to be coming in Very soon Are you really excited for it?

16:20I'm so excited Because I don't know So much her girlfriend But you tell me She's personality Why she's as funny as Grace She's very very funny Imagine being like In that relationship You just like Die of laughter The whole time Yeah a bit like You with me That's the relationship We have You're constantly Laughing at me the whole entire time. By the way, we're also going to mix up the episode today. You're probably expecting some listeners' messages. It's normally what we do in the episode, Soph. But because we have Ella and GK coming on, we've decided today we're going to save those, keep sending them in, we want to hear from you, but today we're going to hold on them and we're going to go straight into talking to our guests.

16:54So, on that lovely little note, please welcome into the studio, the one, the only, is GK Barry and Ella Rutherford!

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20:20Grace and Ella, welcome to the podcast. you guys are by far my most excited I've ever been for a guest really 100 % I needed that why really because I how funny do I find that was really big is this the first podcast you've done on another show together we did one before but this is the one we're most excited for I would say and do you find do you find it easy to go on these things with Grace no No, she doesn't really do stuff in front of the camera, do you? It's like when I went to her first football game, I thought I'm very out of my depth. Very out of my depth. Like, thank God there's a bar, because otherwise I'd be lost.

21:04Wait, no, what was the first football game like? Who was it versus? Can you remember? I was injured at the time that she met me, so I brought her to a game that my friends... Don't say what in the game. Who was it? Who was playing? Yeah, it was a Lewis game, wasn't it? It was your friend's game. Who were they playing? I don't know, another football team. I think they're in blue. and I was like I like clapped after the interval I clapped thinking we'd scored but no one told me they swapped goals yeah she was lost so I was like oh my god home goal no home goal and I was like yes and they were like no the other team has just scored so yeah that is that's the level it went to but now I understand a free kick and a corner that's my favourite which one do you like more free kickers I love a corner I'll go corner and they'll run into the corner and give it a kick.

21:51I love it. What are they called as a collective? A side piece. No. You scored from a two set piece. Side piece. It was a set piece. Set piece. You scored from that. Yeah. But where did you guys meet for people who don't know? So Grace followed me on Instagram and I was like to my sister who is this girl. It was just weird. It was out of nowhere. And then we figured out it was weird. Like why are you just going and follow someone? We found, well I found out That Grace had mutuals with me So Grace's best friend was with a boy that I met On a cruise, I get seasick though So I couldn't have even been involved anyway But yeah Because I said on my podcast, I had Ella Toon on I said, I'm done with men, I can't Physically do it anymore I want a woman with calves Ponytail, football Player, someone with ambition Well my friend Heard it and said, have I got The woman for you so I followed her I put my big girl pants on I followed her and I threw my phone and then I just didn't look at my phone and then you messaged me that night I got bored one night because I was like late I was bored that night I was like I was I was after surgery so I was knackered and I was just like I was restless couldn't sleep and then I was like I'm just going to message you yeah so what did you say what did the message say it was it's now a good time to tell you how beautiful you are and I said it's always a good time for that because respectfully there is her comeback made it made it everything because that could have gotten really awkward and then she started sexting me and we never looked back that didn't happen wait I need to know what I'm so invested slow down like I could just the whole I look at the details because you guys are telling me details she was like because we were just to be honest we looked back at the messages and it was just flirty I was like Celaya you look good you look pretty good Celaya what do you do what do you do as if our whole Instagram wasn't her playing football.

23:50And then we were just flirting, talking, whatever. And then she was like, well, let's meet. So then I, as a joke, I went, oh, you're such a pest. That was me trying to flirt. But in a message, it didn't look like that. It just put, you're a pest. Yeah. And I thought, well, that's fucking rude. You're such a pest. Like you saying it now is lighthearted, but on a message, you're a pest. I put a winky face. I put a winky face in the message. I did. I put, you're such a pest. Yeah. So that's how it was meant to come across. Anyway, she then got angry at me and I thought there's no way she's angry at me about this.

24:20So we're on the phone and she's like, fuck off, Grace. And I was like, oh. And I was there in bed like crying. I had tears in my eyes because I thought, I'm already sensitive and then you've just called me a pest. Yeah, but anyway, I didn't think you on the first day and then she moved in. How nervous were you when you didn't know what to do? I was like, oh. I was so scared. I can't be a night. You know there's like consent But I kept being like Is it alright for you? And how does that feel? It was the most unsexy thing I've ever done in my life Like I'm touching like a live snake You don't really know what to do I'm like am I in the right bit?

24:58I didn't know But now I've learnt the tricks of the trade So I'm okay now But to start with It was horror for you It was It was horror What are you asking the same question? Yeah I was just like And what now? Like where do I go? Were you guiding? No so she wasn't that bad you could give him some notes to be honest honestly I've said this when Sophie Sophie's hand jobs are like this shot no they're not don't try you might get a fire don't try don't even try don't even try and I'm like and I'm like this is brilliant actually that is not true and everything she goes I'm not very good at this am I and I'm like she's like I imagine that it's alright I guess it will do at least you're looking at it it's seeing some light a day oh my god can I ask because obviously Grace you dated guys is the love just so deep yeah I would say it's very different what with guys no with you I'm sorry I'm thinking I haven't sat here because I chatted to Kat Burns who's an amazing singer and she dated guys and then when she she said the love that you have when you find a female partner is like something different i think it's like because women are very like emotional and i don't really know how to describe it but we are just to describe me then i'm saying yeah you're very sensitive love but no it is it's very like you guys get each other on more of a deeper level i think yeah which is why you move in after the first day like i met ella and after an hour I went, I'm in love.

26:38Yeah. Didn't I? Yeah, did you really? And then my gram team were like, you actually need to relax. And I was like, no, you don't get it. Wait, sorry. Did you actually move in after the first day? Yeah. Rewind. Well, actually, it wasn't even the first day. You came to my house. We had a sleepover. Nothing happened. We just had the cuddle. And then you went and got your stuff. And then we just lived together after that. It was no joke. Did you verbally say, do you want to move in? Or was it just like, you're staying here? No, I think within like two months, she just came up to me and went, here's the key.

27:10Really? But you'd been living there anyway. Yeah. But there were a few situations where I needed to probably get in while she went home or things like that. So it wasn't really like romantic the way she gave it to me though. You think like, oh, giving your partner a key to your house would be like quite cute. You know, little box. She just went, key. I was like, yeah. Yeah, I was like, you'll need that. We were talking about this the other day because guys and girls are obviously different, so they think differently. but you said if you were to date a woman you would know exactly what they're thinking the whole time I mean you'd like to think but you do kind of understand each other imagine when it's a you know if you're a guy and you're dating another guy you kind of understand each other much more so you kind of can't play so many games yeah and also the arguments are different I was thinking the arguments but like I'm when it's that time of the month as well it's different we synced as well it's fucking awful but I'm awful When I dated men, I was nasty in arguments to men.

28:06I was actually horrific. Nothing's changed. No, I'm less with you. But I think it's more like it's just catfights. I'd be like, bitch. Whereas with a man, I'd be like, I hate you. But the thing is, with a man, you kind of can get away with doing that. Because they're just not clever enough to know exactly how to win the argument. Whereas I would not take on a girl I lose every time No that's not true Whatever happens I'm really stubborn I'm a Taurus I'm stubborn as fuck But you will apologise first So then it's done Who blows up more If you want to lie about this Go ahead It's her I'll walk in the door and I'll feel it It will slap me in the face Just the tension in the house And I'll go I'm fucked up and I'll try and pick, because then I'll go, you all right?

29:00Yeah, fine. So now I'm piecing together. What have I fucked up on today? Like, what have I done here? No, you're making me sound awful. No, no, no. It's your stubbornness, because I'll go, are you all right? Yeah, fine. Why wouldn't I be all right? Yeah, because I'm not ready to talk at that moment. So it's like, if I start saying it and I'm emotional, it is going to blow up. So I do try and save the argument. For nine hours later. Do you blow up? Can you blow up then? Yeah. I try and do that I stay calm and I think why are you probing me don't ask me and then it gets to a point where you calm down about it but then where you've got to speak about it it goes back up again the emotions yeah that's what I get like I really try and I'm a brusher under the carpet I love it yeah I'm just like oh well she's like you then yeah what you did that whatever yeah let's just let's not think about it ever again if we just forget this happened we'll be fine that's my way of dealing with it it's gone yeah it's actually just a bit what do you mean though that that you think that girls are clever because that's interesting cleverer was the key bit yeah great this is a great tangent you know what always pops up on my TikTok Grace oh no when you're asked what race I knew you were going to say that it's the Tour de France Grace has asked what race the Tour de France is and she says French it's the correct answer it's a sock yeah Jamie's lost it oh god it's the correct answer yes like it is French it is it is French but what do I know France is in the world they should say what um activity are you doing when you do the tour de France yes okay all right fair enough thank you logistical but that's interesting because you Do you think guys aren't smart in relationships?

30:53I mean, in arguments. No, I think women are just way more intellectually, like emotionally, intellectually, intelligent. Can I say something as well, though? I feel like men, not me hating on men. Yeah, go on, you can do it. No, I feel like men act stupid. But with women, we can't act stupid because we know we're not stupid. Does that make sense? I know exactly what you mean. The men play dumb because they can't be bothered to have the confrontation. They can't be bothered to solve the argument. We all know that females, we are clever emotionally. so there's no acting dumb. That is very, that's exactly it because guys can act dumb.

31:27Yeah. Sometimes you are quite dumb. When am I, have I been dumb before? Yeah, emotionally dumb. No, I'm so emotionally intelligent. No, no, you're not. Am I not? Jamie will like cancel on like his best mate's wedding and then they're upset with him and he'll be like, but why would they be upset? I've got a job. That is me. I'm like, you're not well. Yeah. I feel like we're the same It's like a mirrored relationship here I'm the one sweeping under Yeah I'm at work Get over it I'll get them like a Fortnum and Mason basket It'll be alright Who said I love you first I had to Because Had to I did because We all knew That we both loved each other But she was going Go on Say it No Yeah And I was like Well I'm not saying it first And you're like Alright And then one day I was like Fuck it I've got to say it so before I was going to work I just went love you and then just ran out the room and then just went to work yeah she's got away with words and being romantic Grace if I did want you to be like yeah jokes I don't actually love you because then I'd have to go to work thinking about that did you sit back?

32:39straight away you went bye love you yeah I said I love you then you screamed in the mirror to yourself don't bring that up wait wait go on that's so stupid the other day no that's nasty the other day I just told sometimes we just speak about the start and you know whatever and I said to her oh when she left and said that I just sat up in the bed and she's got a big old mirror and I just fucking in the mirror at myself that's so that's the best that everyone's been there haven't they yeah I lost my shit yeah I was all composure it's not embarrassing that's me trying to save myself You knew you loved each other from like get-go.

33:22Yeah. Yeah, definitely. It was weird because like, obviously I've been with girls previous, but not... Vicious? Like I've always known, oh, this is just a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but then when I met Grace, I was literally like, on the first day I was the same. What about introducing each other to families? That's always a big part. Well, I was meant to be... It was funny how you met my partner. Two weeks in. Yeah. So we lived with each other for about two weeks. And I was meant to be filming... a video with someone and they cancelled so I'd have my glam done and everything right so I was like I can't waste this like this was a lot of money and Ella was like why don't you just come to mine and I thought what to meet your mum and your sibling she was like yeah so we pulled up at her house and I genuinely thought I was going to vomit everywhere on the ring doorbell it was so funny in her face she's at the front door like I'm going to be sick like rocking she's gone pure white and I was like are you It was the worst day because the horse racing was on.

34:22So Rhonda girl was at her mum was at the TV screaming at the TV. The Grand National. I walk in and her mum's like, fucking go. Let's go. And I was like. The little dog tried to bite me. Do you remember Tiny? And then I had like your siblings like hi. And I was like, hi. And then I had all the dogs. It was. They were all so lovely, but it was one of the most terrifying. I was still a mute three months into the relationship and then I got comfortable. Really? I was so awkward. Like, I've never been that awkward, but I was just so scared. What, a mute with, not with that, just with the family? It was so weird for me because as soon as we go to the bedroom and the door's closed, then she'd just be like, hey, I'm in a laugh.

35:02And I thought, you literally just, I'm like, you don't speak English downstairs. I was just, it is so uncomfortable. Then you met my parents because they didn't, obviously this is the first girl, they didn't even know I was into girls. so I was like how the fuck do I approach this and I'd been saying I'm staying at my friend Ella's I'm staying at my friend Ella's blah blah had you not said you were into girls at this point no they didn't know so one day they came round and Ella was there and I dropped them back home to the station and they just went so like how do you know Ella and I was just like oh she's my girlfriend and they were like oh cool and then that was it yeah that's amazing her parents were great they knew they surely knew I mean the closet was probably glass but yeah Yeah.

35:45How did you come out? Was it easy as well? Oh, no, my coming out was outrageous. Yeah. I think I made it worse for myself, though. Why? Because I was, like, being sneaky and, like, lying to my mum. And she was like, no, I know something's happening. And I was like, no. Like, panicking. But, yeah, no, when it all came out, it was fine. But it was just the initial, like, me not wanting to say it out loud, I think. I struggled a little bit with my sexuality. Because you were younger as well. Yeah. I was like 16 when I had my first girlfriend so for some reason there is still this kind of like complication around it yeah about our sexuality and who we are should be liking who we shouldn't be liking yeah it's tough even in school like there was none of that so in school I knew that I was a lesbian but I just yeah I just would never say it I was I was just like so almost the opposite like go home and and try overcompensate and be like I really fancy this boy in my class mom you know like one of them ones yeah I was I struggled for a while but yeah once like I think once my family accepted it it made it so much easier for me to then I just sort of it was just the normal way of life then I didn't care about the outside and who else cared do I mean that's right and also guys honestly that's what I find so special about you guys is that so many people follow you on social media and so many people um adore you and the fact that you're so open so in love talk about it so happy to talk about it that kind of joy will spread and people go well like I feel that way whatever it is I fancy girls or guys or whatever it is and they can just go for it without even worrying about it which is amazing so if someone's listening right now and they're perhaps struggling with coming out themselves what would you say to them?

37:23I mean I'd like the world to get to a place where this whole coming out thing just wasn't necessary because you don't go up to someone and go hi I'm Ella I'm straight do you know what I mean? like that's just not that's just not normal so one I'd like that but obviously we're not in a place right now where that is a thing if you're going to do it I'd just say don't put pressure on yourself first of all because when you're ready you'll do it and secondly I just think I had this like as long as the people that I love and care about are fine with it then I get to be who I want to be and love myself who I am because then people love me so it was just like yeah it was quite a a nice situation to be in once that all the dust settled from the lies and then the uh yeah i was a compulsive flyer at that point once the dust settled from that um it was just reassuring for me that like regardless my family and my friends were all there for me and loved me so like i'm i couldn't be happier sorry that just got deep no are you kidding me but that's so amazing to talk about and i really appreciate you for sharing that honestly gk you're now a wag come on let's go baby yeah Oh freaking right Ellie do you think You obviously play for Portsmouth at the moment Yeah England I did growing up So like At 12 I got my first call up for England And then right up until I was like 18, 19 And then Injury hit and stuff And it was just a whole load of mess But I would like to yeah It's just a case of me These last couple of years Having to like work my way back up Which has been quite I mean if it weren't for grace genuinely yeah yeah genuinely the surgeon at the time was like this surgery I don't know if you'll play again and I was like you've only ever done it on one other person before yeah but he was just like I can't guarantee football at all but definitely not to the level that you're at now and I am actually back at the level that I was at

39:23yeah let's go yeah that's amazing but genuinely if it weren't for grace I would have probably just fucking sucked it in because it was like 12 months and then I was looking at another like 8 months-ish and then not knowing at that point would I would I get back on the pitch so but yeah when I met Grace she was like I want a footballer so I have to fucking get up I have to walk yeah I was like I'm gonna watch you play football so get your crutches on really good so that what you were like you were just like come on yeah you came to feel my rehab sessions didn't you I did because I was just like I obviously also didn't understand the extent of what she'd gone through so I was like listen, this is just a knee injury.

40:00You're fine. Like, you've got this. It was quite nice, actually, because she didn't know. It was just like, it took my mind off it completely. She would never sit there and be like, how's your knee feeling? So then automatically I wouldn't be thinking about how I'm feeling about my knee or anything like that. She was just so normal and a breath of fresh air because I was like, I didn't have to think about it when I was with her. Grace. I know, I'm a saint. You're a freaking saint. I am, I am. Without knowing, yeah. Yeah, seriously. what is it like watching Ella play football it's so hot the other day you went on the pitch and there was this girl trying to and this year her shorts are quite short so I love it there was this girl being really aggressive and just shoved her out the way and I was like she's got a yellow card and I was like that's my fucking girl but you're really good I feel like it's so nice to see something you're so passionate about but you're also just really good at you can tell the difference when you'll come on or like just yeah nice nice what's it like scoring a goal is the most insane feeling there's nothing i think nothing will top that do you remember yeah i do i scored two i was at ipswich last year but my first game back i came on we was losing 2-0 and i scored two to like draw the game yeah and honestly in it i was laying on the pitch after and i called you and I was like, I can't believe I've fucking just done that.

41:24She was like, I was watching Hell Time. She was buzzing, but yeah. Is the feeling just a... Yeah, it's unmatched. I don't know where I'll get that feeling again in life, which worries me after football. What am I going to do to replicate that feeling? We're going to have to do drugs. It sounds so silly. We're going to have to turn to drugs. Jamie's obsessed with a feeling. Jamie's obsessed with drugs. Oh, yeah. I was just going to come out. Jamie's obsessed with understanding the feeling of scoring a goal. I think he must ask me about it he's like what do you reckon it's like asking me I've literally never kicked a ball in my night but you haven't had that feeling like I am not into sports apart from I was playing catch for the other day unbelievable catch I was like where have this like talent come from you're unbelievable you're unbelievable catch no because I look I I played sport not to a super high level but I played played sport don't worry about it and don't worry about it I can't that you're saying this yeah Ella don't worry I fucking played school at school so what I was still captain whatever anyway and like my core memories are still like the goals I scored or the tries I scored in rugby or like whatever like that and that feeling that when you score like an amazing try or score an amazing goal at school is like you lose I remember one time I scored a goal and my celebration I became a plane I went I just lost all like ability so I can't even imagine that at the level of professional that you're playing at yeah it must just be insane yeah no it is it is crazy but like yeah I can't there's nothing there's no other feeling that I can compare it to which is why I'm like after football what the fuck am I I'm after I'm after to do drugs yeah yeah and I'm on board with that guys obviously our show started as nearly weds marriage what are your thoughts on it guys I don't know just in life I let Grace take the wheel Ella wants a ring I would like a ring You will She will get a ring But my thing is Is that What you're waiting for Right I want us to go on Loads more holidays Find a We could go on holidays Engage No Do you know what I mean Don't change it We're married now We have to stay home I don't want to propose In England I want to propose In a place that we love abroad What's wrong with England Well What am I going to do In Skegness Like I I would like to do it The thing the difference is between me and Grace I'm you're very high maintenance yeah of course absolutely like everything has to be a massive deal for this girl and it's fine because I'm willing to but with me I genuinely wouldn't care we could be on the bathroom floor and you could go will you marry me it's not very Instagrammable is it though well that's just how I am I wouldn't care no I know I would just like to make it a big like not a big thing but like private but definitely somewhere sunny I will say You should bear in mind, though, that you then have to take the ring in your hand luggage and it can bling, bling, bling up and then it could give it away.

44:24Really? Yeah. Which is why I'd like to think you did it in England. Well, I wanted to do it abroad, but it was during COVID. So I wanted to take you to... No, it wasn't. It was a year after COVID. No, no, no. It was... No, it wasn't. When was it? Jamie wanted to propose to me at his mate's wedding and thank God can you imagine? That's outrageous Oh my God Yeah, thank God I didn't do that because it turns out it would have been a really bad idea but I thought it was like a really fun present for them and everyone was like no, this is a really bad idea so I didn't do that but I did want to propose to you in Portugal with your mum and I wanted to surprise you but it was during Covid so I couldn't do that So you waited a whole year and a half?

45:08No, I did not wait a whole year and a half I can't really remember it was all such a blur and would you want to have kids? We've got dogs at the minute Yeah I don't really have motherly birds Three I'm not very motherly birds I don't I don't What type of dogs? So when you see this bum what do you think Grace? You're just like I think this is amazing for you But I just yeah you're so good with kids I am Ella's amazing I've grown up with nieces and nephews I absolutely adore so like they're just like I mean you can give them back that's a good thing I don't know how to talk to kids I'm like you're right Yeah the first time she met my niece and nephew she was like it's like what do i talk to them about and i was like just being so i just started panicking i was like slay queen i was trying to talk to them like that and they were like right um so yeah i'm not very motherly but we love our dogs and i think that's enough i mean you're saying you're not motherly we've got a little dog noodle and grace is like no the way she acts with this dog like in bed now it's like me the dog her there's no cuddles No, come on.

46:08And Noodle will back up into Grace and she'll spoon him. And I'm like, where the fuck do I come into this now then? Do you kiss Noodle on the lips? Yeah, I do. I kiss all my dogs on the lips. I really want to see a picture of Noodle. You let Noodle snog you? Yeah, in the mouth. No, don't make up rumours. Not in the mouth. Occasionally by accident that will happen. But that's it. You do it too. Yeah, so you are motherly to the dog. Yeah, that's because they don't speak. You know what I mean? and they poo outside which is amazing Grace both of you just killing it but Grace also just like killing it in the industry thank you man and also just like yeah also can we just say just like fully deserved like obviously without a freaking doubt one of the funniest people hardest working people without a doubt like I just so root for you all the time thank you very much and I make sure to buy candy kittens thanks very much go shopping but you have your new show Am I the Arsehole with Jimmy Carr and Jamali Maddox and it's out on October 27th there was a lot of people on there there was a guy that eats his own sperm so that was what I was dealing with but I think it's genuinely really funny you were there for recording yeah it was hilarious to watch it it's on Comedy Central so wherever you can watch I'll be watching that thank god please I can't wait to see if I can't please bam I can't wait to watch it actually also you did your BBC stint for Radio 1 and you swore on the radio and it's one of the funniest things.

47:38No, you didn't. I love you so much. So the week before I did it on Loose Swimming, I went, shit. And then the crowd went, and I was like, oh my God, I've sworn. And then the week after I was on Radio 1, I was introducing this band and I just didn't do it very well. And I didn't realise the mics weren't down. I went, fucked it. And then it played the song and everyone in the room was like, no, it was awful. How awful is it when you think the mics got down and you're like, oh, I did that. I literally did that the whole time. The whole time Why did it take so long To put The song is playing Why is my mic still up It's so annoying Yeah horror Guys we adore you We freaking adore you Like honestly And Grace Go and listen to your podcast Everyone needs to go And check out your TikTok So I weirdly stalk you The whole time Really It's very funny It's so You're so freaking funny Okay we've got a quick fire game It's called Misses and Misses Here you go honey You go for it Alright okay Who is the neediest Me Yeah yeah Grace will leave the house and I'll be like you hate me get back please yeah bearing in mind I'm working yeah she's like you didn't have to take that job yeah I'm like you could have stayed at home like you know it was my day off and Grace is like well this was booked in for months yeah 100 % who starts the fights I cause the fights I'll do something that I know I shouldn't have probably done absolutely so yeah it's probably me who caused the fights you caused the fights get out of here I really see Yeah Get out of here A mirroring You cause them by Constantly fucking up But I start them By calling you out on it Or being in a mood That is us That is literally us And then he's like What have I done What have I done And then I'm like I actually don't I don't think I do anything That's how I feel Yeah I know Yeah and I'm like What you've just sat there And gone I cause them No I know But because I know But at the time I'm like Oh it'll be alright with that Yeah and also That's exactly what he thinks Yeah I'm like she won't do that that's a tricky thing sweep it under the carpet yeah exactly doesn't matter a lot of it for me is like double booking me or like getting there late or like sorry can't do that now I've got work I feel like maybe it's similar vibes yeah absolutely and it's like last minute and I'm just like no respect yeah like she'll have something tomorrow and she'll be like she'll tell me tonight when it's 11 o 'clock and I'm like brilliant yeah that's nice yeah see you never then yeah I get so sensitive deal with it who's the most embarrassing me I'll say embarrassing stuff and you're like please like as soon as you got on here I was like we finger each other so I yeah that's just a common thing by the way you're talking about watching porn movies I oh no what's about to come out you're about well when I was when I was like much younger I wanted to know how it was to perform cunnilingus on a girl so I just watched loads and loads of videos wait what's up as in licking girl out like what what why did you say I don't know I don't know did you I've never used the word cunnilingus earlier You just get jealous that Grace says she was the most embarrassing thing.

50:35I should top that. Okay, who gets the drunkest? Me. Absolutely, Grace. Yes. Seems me. Although when I do get drunk, when she's out of season, when we first met, you then were out of season and Ella was just downing like six magnums. It's like being pregnant. Our season's like nine months long. So we can't drink throughout the season. So then when I do get time to drink, Go for it. I don't remember. anything yeah who's the most romantic me absolutely me yeah really yeah I'm not very good in that department am I no for a girl I'm not I cook she's shocking she's honestly shocking oh yeah Grace's love language is to cook me dinner yeah sometimes a chicken is not cooked it's raw that's right and she's given me like a thing about chicken now like I just don't want to eat chicken you've had so much raw chicken yeah she has she survived every one so So it's all right.

51:33Do you know what? As a girl, you're not that romantic either. I cook you dinner sometimes. That is also the way I show my love. I don't think it is, but all right, we'll stop there. Guys, we adore you. You're the best. Thank you so much for coming on. You're the funniest people in the town. We love you guys. Bye.

51:53What an episode. What an episode, ladies. Absolutely 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. Just shout out to Grace and Ella. Just you absolute freaking studs. Just the best. And they're so happy with each other, which I love more than only. They're so happy with each other. Maybe we'll make them godparents. Ladies and gentlemen, we want to say a big thank you to you as well for always tuning in, for always being part of the podcast, for just being the legends that you are. We really hope you enjoyed the episode. Remember, stay in touch with us. You can get involved by sending us a direct message on at nearlyparents or you can send us an email nearlyparents at jampoproductions.co.uk.

52:25Everything is in the show description. And of course, we're going to see you next week for another episode which we cannot wait for. Until then, you stay safe out there, people. And remember, if you're getting engaged... Good luck! If you're getting married... Oh, good luck. If you're going through a divorce... We love you. If you're thinking of getting engaged... Go and do it. And if you are getting preggo... Go and do it. It's the greatest. We love you. Goodbye! Goodbye! Goodbye.

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