Jasmine & Kavan: What REALLY Happened in the Love Island Villa

0:00Guys, this is the biggest episode we've ever fucking had. And I'm going to swear. I'm not going to say. So bigger than our wedding. Bigger than our wedding episode. Our wedding is... Bigger than announcing our baby. It's on par. Okay, this is a big episode. And we have Jazz and Cav. We have Javin. We have Cav Jasmine. Jazz and Cav from Love Island. On our freaking podcast. Let's go! Okay, need a caveat with this The nation's new Posh and Becks How do you feel about that? Say again? Because we were once referred to as that Is that what they're saying? The nation's new Posh They are my Posh and Becks They're your Posh and Becks Can we just say Sophie has been utterly obsessed with Love Island I haven't seen my wife for the past how many weeks?

0:47Eight weeks? Because what happens is we come home from work I come in Hey honey, hey Ziggy I slave and cook you dinner Absolutely not Hey honey, hey Ziggy, how you doing? Good honey Listen, I'm going to go upstairs to bed but honey it's 7 30 yeah i need to get ready for bed because i need to watch love island at nine okay i go up at 8 30 i shower i do my everything shower i'm always trying to watching jazz and cav that sounds really weird but like that's my routine and i love it and i'll miss it and there's to be honest as well sophie's sophie's been a little bit in love with cav i've been worried for myself because obviously i am 10 years older than him um but i also love jasmine like she's my girl crush and he's my boy crush.

1:25Get with it. All right. What I'm embarrassed about is I'm going to just put it out here. I have had salmon sperm. You know that I like to do my salmon sperm. I inject it all over my face. I'm on my mommy makeover. I did it because I didn't give a fuck that it was just mine and Jamie's podcast. I was like, you guys see me like this all the time. And then we last minute got in that we were going to get jazz and cav and I've not had my downtime. I'm swollen as fuck. My eyes look like I've had a botched facelift and I'm like, this is where I'm wearing the glasses and I'm just hoping that I don't have to stand next to Jasmine who's literally the most stunning person in the world and she's so worried because so many of you are going to be watching this I couldn't be more bummed out to be honest she was like why have you organized this I was like what we knew there was a recording in I'm embracing it and also we're not going to have the user structure we're not going to have Sophie and I chatting we're not going to have listeners message today get ready for an absolute storming episode with the new posh and becks of the UK please welcome to the studio to the newly parents podcast it's jasmine and kev

2:26hello i'm jamie lang and i'm suki lang and now we're newly parents oh yeah we are baby ladies and gentlemen it's jasmine and kev

2:40We are so excited You're like in my air I need to tell it I'm sorry I'm in here Guys Oh my god Like come on Guys we love you We love you Love you I've just been telling you off camera But like I've never Ever been more obsessed With a series because of you two Like firstly You were just like A joke stunning But also we love you Baddie But you were like You won my heart I was like you're just so cute so cute and aura aura massive aura BDE that's what I keep saying tell her what that is big dick energy right like me and my sister my sister's like 34 that's big congo on national TV my sister's like 34 we were like it's a bit weird that we like low-key like fancy cab and you're like 21 I love a cougar though my mom my mom was a cougar my whole life I feel like it's iconic yeah I mean I know you're happily you know yeah don't worry Listen, this has been my evening for the last, how many weeks has it been?

3:41Like 10 weeks? 10 weeks? This is what it is. I would come home. Sophie would like be home just before me. I'd be like, hey honey, how you doing? She's like, yeah, great. I'm like, okay, should we like chat? She's like, no, I got to prepare myself for Love Island. And I'm like, all right. So then she would go upstairs, be in the bedroom at like 8pm. I had to be alone to watch it. Getting ready. And I'd be like, should we have dinner? She's like, no, got to prepare myself. What are you preparing yourself for? All the group chats Like we've been kicking off Like my group chats Have been crazy Jess how's it been for you Personally Really overwhelming But like also so nice To just be home Like we've only had Two days home And I'm just like With my sister the whole time Like she hasn't left She's just been like In between us the whole time Like right in the middle We're walking around Holding hands Then we're like He'll be like Bella do you want to Come hold our hand too Because she's kind of Just like there We love Bella So yeah it's been really nice But also like crazy Because when you're in there You genuinely have no idea how you're being received you don't know what people are thinking you're just living it and then it came out and it's just so much love like so much love people love us Javin I was like oh my god I didn't even know that was a name for us Javin edits everywhere so I'm kidding everyone speaks like there was a moment in time that people rooted for Lorenzo and you but you guys are way stronger yeah no like I could see from the get go you friends like it was there was nothing there but I could see how it was confusing for you of course yeah I get it And when coming out And like seeing Certain things Like I get how it can look Like I do get that But like when you're living it And like people who knew me Like my family And all my friends Were like we knew Like we knew that it was Cav The whole time Like we had no question Yeah Cast said they weren't stressed They were like We knew you were going to work it out Like Okay talk us through it right Okay so When you guys first see each other For the first time Right What is the initial Like what is that moment It's like okay He's hot She's hot Okay what are you guys feeling I saw a clip And it was me sitting there And they're like Who do you fancy I remember saying straight away Aiden and I was like the one on the end I was like who's that and they're like Jasmine they're like someone said good luck I think they said good luck mate all the boys were scared of me but he wasn't scared which I loved it was that instant you know that initial spark instant it's like you just know for me it was just it was there no yeah literally and he came in I was like he walked in and I was like whoa and I hear Aiden go that's my brother and they're hugging and I got really emotional I was like that's so cute because I missed my sister and then we were like talking all of us and then I just was like he's really handsome and the first time that I think that was the first chat you had after obviously went on a date with Ellie the first thing but then when he came in we like our first chat was just you and me on the day bed and I like remember feeling so chopped that day you guys like I got ready so quickly I had my glasses on my hair like half up I looked really tired it was towards the end of the day and I was like oh my god and he kept talking talking to me and looking at my mouth and I was like I literally just had my lunch like I don't feel cute at all like I need my lip gloss like I was like is he gonna kiss me like he just came in and then that night when we went in to get ready for the evening I was running around like a headless chicken like I need to look so good so I was saying to all the girls like I've got a crush you guys I've got a crush I need to look good today I put on my sexiest outfit I had a leather top little shorts and I was like so what like what do you think like do you like my outfit like oh my god that is so fun I know that feeling like when you really really fancy someone you're like butterflies when was the last time you had that feeling yesterday honey today this morning when you saw them yeah yeah yeah but like butterflies and then you're trying to like look sexy yeah like you're like giddy and like I'm like really like not a lover girl in like my recent life I used to be but like it's very deep inside me and with him I was like oh my god I feel so like excited and cute so yeah it was instant guys I feel like you're alpha right you're an alpha so were the guys intimidated by you?

7:11oh big time I remember walking in and like I said everyone was going nah stay away from that one like honestly well but because they fancied her or because they were just like she's she's too much I just think she's how strong she is she's a very strong woman doesn't take no shit like you know and they was all scared but I quite liked it for me that was what was like I always felt like you were like the alpha of the group with the boys yeah I mean really yeah that's what it came across I think so I think you were like he came in and we always say this I think he kind of put the fire under the ass for all the boys to realise we need to put in a shit because guys at the start the boys never pulled us it was literally the girls grafting the boys and we'd all be sat all the time like are we like chopped or something like why don't the boys want to chat to us like we're just sat here like spare parts and then he came in and suddenly all the boys were like hey do you want to chat hey do you want to chat like to all the girls and it was like he came in and I think kind of sparring stuff yeah you switch everyone on that's the truth I remember sitting with Lorenzo and having a chat with Lorenzo about me coming in and I was like now that you've got like a bit of competition he was like yeah like this is me now I've got to switch on a bit and it was after that yeah because he fell yeah he then like turned it up a notch you know did you tell your brother that you were coming in it was funny we did the whole thing together but we actually didn't know when we was coming in so like he flew out and we just said goodbye was like look if I see you in there I'll see you in And if I don't, then, you know, smash it, whatever.

8:28And it was like a few days later. Then I got my ticket to go out. And like, you're not in till you're in. So I didn't know. So we really didn't know. I didn't even know he was in there. What do you mean you're not in till you're in? They always say that to you, don't they? Yeah, they just say you're not in the village. They hold you back. Even when you're out in Mallorca, you still don't know you're going in. Like you can be in holding. A few people who were in this season were in holding and then had to come home for a bit. And then they got flown out again. Because like, they're kind of figuring it out.

8:49it's like a moving chess piece like puzzle person's gonna connect whatever happens it's like creates the story exactly do you think that the producers thought that you guys would end up together they were you were you were booking for Lorenzo shortly I think that that's what they thought to be honest I feel like I mean you don't know obviously they don't reveal their secrets they're so good at what they do like they're really really good but I think the feeling that I got was like they put Lorenzo in there for me yeah 100 % which is like you know when we coupled up straight away like I feel like that was like I saw that vision there but like it was there was something missing always and like I think when Cav came in I was like whoa and kind of everyone that I would speak to about it was sort of like okay like really like he's 21 like there's you know it's like a big age gap as well like I don't know you're quite like that's why you're like a boy from Kent like you never said that before to us because obviously they asked you your type and stuff and I was like yeah I was like well he's cute like I don't know I like him I don't know what you want me to say and I feel like it was the same for you right like they didn't I mean I don't know did they have a feeling?

9:45No, it was very much, yeah. Obviously, they have their puzzle, don't they? Who they think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't think Jazz was ever in that list, but... No, I need to just ask that. Hold on, man. I need to ask, what did you say was your type before you went in? I did say brunettes. For me, it's open, but brunettes, I've never been with a blonde. I've never been with a blonde, yeah. Well, you did this series. I know. Twice. Oh, here we go, honey. This is true. He was in three couples, and two of them were blonde. Yeah. So we deep dive into that Okay just talk to me About Kasa That word is banned You know that I just mean Like I've never been So angry at the TV Really When you were crying And you went He's running back to her I was like There's no way But then I was like He's gonna run back To Charlene Like Charlene Beautiful girl So lovely Such a sweetheart She's a sweetheart She's so sweet Don't have a bad word To save her But like you guys were just, there was chemistry.

10:47Like, there really was. But talk to me about what happened. I mean, obviously, I feel like we was in a bit of a place, weren't we? Yeah. Before, like, the first break in Love Island is crazy, by the way. I feel like that. Yeah, Maya came in and was like, I've never seen a break before in Love Island. And we were like, I was like, girl, you're telling me. I was like, I don't understand. Because when he was telling me he wanted to go on a break, I was like, what does that mean in here? Yeah, what does that mean? He's like, how are we going to, what does that mean here? I think I was running out of options because I didn't want to end it.

11:15I just feel like as everything was going through it felt like a lot didn't it it was like very intense there was a lot going on did you feel intimidated did you feel like that maybe you I felt like you felt like your feelings were too strong and like it maybe I felt like I was a lot stronger than she was so it was a bit of like am I just going to get hurt in this situation do you know what I mean but obviously now looking at it I know it's not a big overthinker I feel like that's the core of the show is me overthinker you're the sweetest are you kidding me you're the sweetest thing I'm leaving so you were worried Your feelings were too strong Because you said this Your feelings were too strong So you were worried You were going to get hurt So you didn't want to get hurt Yeah And also It takes a lot of trust as well for me It takes a lot to build that trust Yeah In an environment like that Where it's so intense And so You get worried that you're getting Too emotionally involved in it Yeah You know Yeah That's what really came across Like you were both in it For the right reasons It's like You could see that from a mile off And you know From so early on So you asked about Kass And we've completely taken it Some of us From so early on And like, I would say even a month before the final, we were like, we're happy to go.

12:18Like always. We said it so many times to people. We were like, you go, I go, I go, he comes. Like we were like so good with it. And I feel like that's when things changed as well for us so much. Like we were just kind of sat back. We were like, we don't really care about the drama. Like, okay, you guys think that of us. Like you guys can think that. Like we just had like a completely different demeanor. I've seen some funny edits of us where we're just like, someone's digging at us and we just go look at you and go, we look really sexy. We look really fresh right now. That's all we cared about Honestly Nothing was bothering us at all You saw that Like the minute you decided To be together It was like And be just for each other It just changed everything It's so much Yeah So that cast from Orbit That is a tricky It's a tricky scenario So how did you feel Going through that?

13:01My cast experience Or when I With him When he came back When he came back I mean It was so crazy Because we got the text as well So I like I had Didn't really I mean I think there are like I've seen like videos of me being like, Cav won't bring anyone back. Like, obviously, I know he won't. He'll probably chat to someone and like, whatever. But he won't bring anyone back. And then like, we get the text that he's like, kissing this girl and whatever. And I didn't know who it was. And then, um, so I kind of had a weird feeling that there's a chance. Like, I was like, he's not going to be kissing girls and like, not bring them back.

13:28Like, I was like, I just don't think that's his move. Like, he's a very respectful person. So I was like, okay, he's kissing her because he really likes her. So it was really hard. That lunchtime, I like, sat on my own. Good read. That's a deep read. Yeah. Yeah. And it was the truth of it. I knew it. But so like, I remember that lunch I sat on my own. I was like bawling my eyes out, eating my lunch. Just like thinking like, this is like my journey done now. And I knew that. I was like, he comes back with someone and he wants to be with her. That's okay. But that will be my journey done because I will not be getting to know anyone else.

13:55And I told the producers that. I was like, I will not be getting to know anyone else. I'm telling you that now. Like, he'll bring someone back. You can bring it in. Whoever you want from me, there's no one for me right now. because for me once I you were in there yeah because I think for me also once I fall for someone it's not that you know if it doesn't work out whatever it's not like I'll never get over it but it takes me a seriously long time to get over someone I'll always be okay and I know I will but I love very deeply and very honestly so it takes so much out of me that after the fact I'm it's wraps for me for a little while I need to be with my mom I need to be with my sister I need to be in my bed I need to eat food I need to cry I need to feel my feelings and it might be a month two months a year two years I don't know and I knew that and I said that to them I was like I've fallen for this boy It's too late for me now So you've had that before So you know you can get past it But it's just like You know that It's going to take time When that happens Yeah I know how to navigate heartbreak Because I've had it before But I also knew that This is maybe the second time in my life I've fallen for someone to this extent So I knew the journey I'd have to go on to get over it And I've said that to you You guys are an inspiration For so many like Especially like These young kids there Who are just probably going through a breakup What would you say to someone Who's going through a breakup right now And it's hurting so much?

15:02I would say you have to live in it. Like literally, there's no feeling that is like to be embarrassed. So there's nothing that like makes you look because I think a lot of girls should be like so embarrassing. He did this to me and I'm just here crying over him. I don't think it's embarrassing. I think I've always said the one that loves never loses. I think to love someone to feel deeply is like the most beautiful thing about life, even if it doesn't work out. I think that's that that feeling is so so special and amazing that even if you know, I think the idea of loving someone means like you have to be married and have babies isn't true.

15:29you can love someone because you just love them not because you're thinking about the end goal you just love them and you hope it works and if it doesn't you know you've got yourself you come to the world alone you die alone that's okay but I think like you should feel all your feelings so deeply and I don't think it's embarrassing to have those feelings I think it's that's the whole point of life I literally will sit in my bed and feel it all and I'll cry and I'll be like straight motivational speaker so emotionally intelligent it's so true do you know what that is so true yeah even if it doesn't work out that was the point of life That was unbelievable But it's so true because we're so afraid to feel our emotions now Because we're worried what people think The life is about feeling emotions right?

16:08You're meant to explore everything And also like it's don't be... People are so scared to fall in love because they're worried it won't work out But that's so true what you said Even if it doesn't work out you've got to experience it in the moment I've always thought that though So are you guys in love? Oh my god, have you not watched it? No I have but I just need to hear it now We are, very much We were massively, like, so in love. We were, like, literally obsessed with each other. He came straight to my house when we landed. We had, like, a first date. So we got off the plane in the morning.

16:36Got straight in a taxi. We had to go straight to the doctors. To see in central London, yeah. Why? I've got, like, I had this abscess on my stomach. It was so funny. Can you imagine me and Jasmine? So I'm lying on the bed like this. We've had no sleep. The doctor's squeezing his face. Jasmine's sitting there watching me. I'm like this. Screaming, honestly. You're in deep at this point. It was our first date, guys. We come off the plane. That's exactly where we went to. The cab has all of our like seven suitcases in it. We're like in this hospital, like half asleep. Bless him, like still in our clothes from like the night before.

17:07And he's just there and he's like, great. Like getting like this. What the fuck is the abscess? Like, no, everyone's affected. It's like, yeah, it's got to be like an infection. Ingrown hair. And ingrown hair. But because in there, like, you're on camera every day. So blessed, everyone's like shaving and waxing and shaving and waxing every day, multiple times a day. Then you're in the sun and you're sweating. your pores are like getting like all weird because you're in this villa right and it's it's intense right and we all know what that is like you have producers there you have cameras there you you don't know the outside world when you finally have that alone time with each other on the outside world what is what was that bit like unbelievable no mics no cameras no one watching you it's it's great honestly it felt like just freedom yeah but it was like it's so hard to fall asleep because it's like like last night like we were just lying in bed like so tired but we're just like talking to each other because you can talk about anything now and like so so so many little things and you can also like you know have a little bitch and a moan about what was going on in the villa because finally you're on mic so you can be like oh yeah and what about this and what about that and like we're quite gossipy I feel like as people anyway so we're like oh my god you guys are right on my street I just can't wait that is what he's like at the end of the day and I'm like and he's so un-gossipy he's so boring I think the best thing is when your man comes home with tea free and he's like you know so and so I'll sat upright with my tea like what babe tell me are you like so when Sophie Sophie says that to me She'll be like, so tell me what happened.

18:20He goes for dinner and I'm like, so what's going on in their marriage? And he's like, I don't know, I didn't ask. I'm like, well, you're just so boring. No, I can't. I would die to know. Three main questions. One question is, have you watched any of it back? No. No, we've just seen clips on TikToker edits that we get sent. Do you think Aiden was slightly sabotaging you? And I love Aiden. I love Aiden. But like, I don't know what he was doing there. I was so confused. no definitely not not sabotaging you like he didn't want you to win right but like why was he so pro Charlene oh pro Charlene he was pro Charlene I'm gonna put it out there I know I know he also wasn't against you but like he was obsessed with Charlene and he met after five seconds yeah yeah I feel like AIDS obviously got my best intentions at heart you know and obviously we was going through some stuff it was very pushed on the Jasmine Lorenzo stuff you know that was very pushed on and like I don't know he saw how I felt as well he knew he could see how deep i was feeling to jazz and he could see how much it was like affecting me um so obviously his best intentions is he's protecting you maybe it's a protection yeah of course and he sees in cast there it was what it was um so yeah he was just protecting me but he knows deep down what me and jazz are and i kept saying it to him like forget all the struggles we've been through and the tribulations like look at the good stuff it's like everyone quickly forgot all the good stuff that happened i was only looking at the bad bad bad bad bad you know I feel like the producers were probably in his ear telling him about the affair and that was probably making him feel protective of course yeah I was like they've got to do what they've got to do too because there's one on one convo's you don't see them like you know with your producers and stuff and I feel like a lot of them are amazing and they have our backs so you don't know with everyone because I feel like the producers really were great with me and had so much time for me but you don't know how they are with everyone because everyone's got a different dynamic with them too but I think also with the Aiden thing like when I think about it quite deeply as a big sister too.

20:15So I never really got too mad at him. I feel like when Cav and I first met, like it was so intense. Like, I don't know if you guys remember very early on, there was like a challenge to like rank, we all had to rank ourselves strongest to weakest. Everyone put me and Cav second to Lola and thingy, Fitzy. So like from the beginning, it was so quick, so deep. And it started so intensely that I think the minute we started to have issues that came up sort of, I don't know, maybe around week two, I think everyone was like, whoa, this is a big switch. And everyone saw how much it hit us because we went from being the best, happiest couple to having a lot of arguments.

20:47So it was a drastic jump everyone was looking at. I think Aiden saw that and thought, oh my God, it's really scary. This is a lot. And so then he just became really protective. Whereas if we were like growing slowly and it wasn't like this intense thing from the start, he wouldn't think that. I think you're right. Because you have struggles on the way, right? But the high to low jump was insane. And probably for Aiden, he was like scared for you. Yeah, and I feel like because we're living it for the first time, none of us have done it before. Yeah. So we don't know, is this normal? Should it be like this so early?

21:12is this supposed to be honeymoon phase like you don't know we're all navigating it for the first time together and to have him as a brother that's just crazy I actually loved it I'll be honest amazing and amazing like he didn't find love but he was in it that just goes to show how much people wanted him and he really added to the villa like he's got such a great personality but I heard isn't your brother maybe dating someone or seeing someone or hooking up with someone at the moment is it before he went out no as in Priya Priya yeah you are not You're not with the lingo The way you're saying shit I thought you were talking about someone on the outside I know you were like don't out him No one of us Lizzie Lizzie over here Where's Lizzie?

21:49Was behind them on the train yesterday And she was like Oh my god Wait was Priya on National Rail? Yay Well done you You were so good You were like Nothing wrong with National Rail Nothing wrong with National Rail All of us were watching like Stop saying that Stop saying that That is the most like Bless her like She doesn't mean that stuff by you It's just so her tongue-in-cheek way of speaking that, like, yeah, it can come across so badly. But, yeah, it was good that you said that as well. Okay, guys, I'm loving this. We're just going to take a quick break, and we'll be back in just a second, I promise.

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22:57Before you go into Love Island, what are your reasons to go in? Because sitting here and seeing you two now, this is real deal. I can feel it, right? And I imagine, look, it's a show. We've seen the show. We loved the show But it felt like this season There was something different And I'm not sure What was different about it It just felt Man it Firstly everyone was Smoke show hot Everyone was I've heard I've heard it's like The best looking cast That they've ever had Sophie started like Watching them first week And then she was like You've got to come watch this And I was like Alright and I was like Jesus It was like a joke If I had walked in there I'd be like What the fuck is going on There was beautiful people Every person come in I was like Oh my god can they stop I was like Every person's hotter Then hotter Then hotter I was like okay enough And then the cast of girls Everyone bang after bang I was like Oh my god So what was So when you decided to do it What are you thinking What are your family saying What are your family saying What are you thinking So my mum has always told me to do this Like for years And I've been single for like Almost five years Every year she's like You need to do a love And I think you'll find someone You need to do a love Five years Yeah Wow My mum was always like I think it will really work out for you I think you'll find someone I think you'll come across so good Because she loves the way I talk She thinks I speak really well She's like people need to see how you speak You speak so honestly and openly It's really inspiring you could really find someone on there like she saw it as like a full picture thing for me I was always like no mommy I'm not doing it no mommy I'm not doing it and then this year I got like scouted for it and I was just like do you know what I was like I've been single for five years I actually have nothing to lose like I thought I could really just go on and find something and like worst case scenario I'll just wear really cute outfits hopefully the girlies will think I'm T and that's that genuinely and you succeeded I actually swear to God that was my thinking love that and then best way to do something like that yeah there's no like blueprint there's no nothing It's just like, here we go.

24:37We're going to experience it. No expectations at all. Genuinely, like, also wanted to see if I was open to love because I hadn't been in a relationship in so long. I was like, I wonder if I actually am open. I'm very, like, man eatery. So I'm like, yeah, whatever. Like, it's so easy out here to be like, yeah, shut up. Like, and then walk away. And there you can't do that. And then, yeah, I'm like, proved all of that to myself. Like, genuinely, day three, you come in and everything changed for me. And when you first walk in, nervous, excited. What is the feeling when you first walk in? I was so nervous before I came in because I was the last girl to come in on the first day.

25:04so I was in that holding villa I don't know maybe 7-8 hours all glammed up glammed up no yeah like they're so nervous and they were like they didn't tell me it was the last one until like right near the end I was like guys this is ridiculous because I could hear people like cars driving I was like what is happening they're like you're the last one to go and I said oh my god I bet I was like you put me in now and then yeah and then as soon as like I was really nervous but then the minute I got into the the like hummers and you were like screaming it all the nerves went I was like this is so fun oh man this is so fun okay what about you What do your parents say?

25:33How are you feeling before going in and everything? I mean, me and Aidan were sort of different. I'll be honest, I had no expectation. I said this to you the other day, and I said I felt like I was really underprepared for what I was doing. He brought five pairs of swim shorts. That was it. I didn't think I was going to be in there very long. I thought I was only going to be in there a couple of days. So literally, I packed like one and a half suitcases, didn't I? She filled up my suitcase on the way back with all her stuff. With my stuff? Because his cases were empty. He brought nothing. Yeah, I didn't.

26:00We just sort of, on a limb, was like, Dretton, like, it'd be a laugh. Imagine we did it together. Because we're brothers, but we're also two very different personalities. So we thought it would work quite cool, you know? Like, two different... I'm a bit more of a love of a boy. He's a bit more of a, like, give us a kiss, you know? So it was just on a whim. And my mum obviously thought it'd be hilarious to watch this on the screen, which I feel like it did. I feel like it came across... It was so iconic. Very funny. And so sweet. They're so cute. Guys, you know everyone's saying that they're both, like, Charver geezers.

26:26Do you think he is? Charver geezer? What's that? Like a charva What the hell's a charva? Oh my god we're so old Oh as in the pictures Charva yeah I don't know what a charva is You're not Gen Z What the hell's a charva? You're not Gen Z enough You know the TikTok sound It's like Tell a fella come see me No man MC vibe yeah You know those memes You don't know that What like No I'm so boomer I'm like getting so Do you mean like Like geysery Like geysery Yeah a little bit Is he? She's like Is he? I am a little bit You're not really Is there anything Anything during the whole thing Anything at all That's giving you slight icks Or nothing at all yet No No never Not even that abscess Guys No I was going to say I'm literally That's crazy as well I'm literally sat there Watching this man Pop a cyst on his tummy And I'm like He's so cute I saw a video of me actually And he's Because when he sneezes He sneezes like seven times in a row And it's like And it's like Like that Like it's like a mouse And it's so cute And there's a They put I didn't know they put this stuff in because you don't know what they're putting in.

27:28There's like a bit of me where I thought it was like cut out. He's like sneezing and I'm looking at him and I'm going like... I'm obsessed with him and nothing icks me out at all. Okay, what about the big thing in London is that heart rate challenge? How nerve-wracking is going into something like that? I blacked out. I blacked out. Honestly. Come on, baby. I cannot explain to you the adrenaline. Is it too much? Yeah, I think we had two drinks. Because you've not drank for so long does that at least give you a bit of anything? I don't have two No It does nothing Okay but No No no no The red wine Is the one to get If you want to feel something And so what Like prosecco and red wine It's white, rosé, red or beer That's it And you get how many drinks a night Just in the flu You only get one or two The flu One or two depends on the night If you've had a hard night They'll give you two Everyone's sorry Molly told me that like If some people don't want it That other people are drinking Each other's And then some people Yeah but they'll They'll vog in They'll vog in One time I think I gave you a sip of mine Or I gave Mika a sip of mine straight away Bog was like you know that's against rules you can't be doing that and I was like oh they've cranked down you can't do that yeah it's what is it like so when you go so you blacked out I blacked out I remember I left I thought to myself yeah I did really well but I couldn't remember what I did like I couldn't remember who I did it on so great was it good again I've not really watched it back I've not watched it yet no he was so good you were fucking funny about Aiden you said something about W I shouted down to him didn't I so you need some WD40 on there that's when all the girls were like We like that Yeah You would joke He ate his though Like all of the girls That's why like I don't understand How the results came out How they did Because every girl Looked to me Said respectfully jazz And they're like Sorry if he was the one Who raised my heart the most Every girl said it to me And bless I think Mika felt bad Because she kept saying She was like jazz I was like Mika I was like it's fine I was like my man's hot I know like good You should raise your heart rate So jazz You don't have a jealous You're not a jealous type I'm jealous if he's doing something But if girls think he's hot I'm not jealous I'm like he should be do you feel like that?

29:26I'm like that's the biggest compliment ever I would be offended if people didn't didn't think that I don't want people to think my man's not cute like I want everyone to be like you're a man so hot like you guys are great together okay great I think I'm a bit shallow honestly I think that's what I've realised because when we left we were like the fact that everyone thinks we're hot I was like for me they can think I'm a bitch I can lose I can be third place last place I don't care I was like we're hot we've won you're the nation's posh and becks the whole posh and becks vibe is crazy It's unreal Biggest corporate ever Okay so that moment When you're Honey I love you But I need to ask The question I'm going to be You keep getting in Like shh Okay Mika And Samraj Why were the viewers Like what was going on Because I feel like She's such a sweetheart She's like Honestly I spoke about it With my mum as well And Bella They said Because they met her Obviously when they came in too But they were like They think that she's just too sweet That it's easy To walk all over her And because she's so sweet She's also like in a conversation maybe someone says something and she just like is like oh and maybe it's out of pocket comment but because she's like just talking to you she doesn't mean she just like assumes she's very positive she's kind of in her own world don't you think so sometimes honestly you're talking to her and she's just like and she doesn't mean bad by it she's just like in her own vibe I thought she was so sweet I couldn't understand why people were running for them like it was really unfortunate I think it was just the pre-assage people were just holding on to that the ick was an unfortunate word wasn't it but like that's just real life like that's what he would have said in real life with the cameras and it's not their fault that other people are aware of the cameras.

30:57It was more the fact I think he called her and then went and kissed her. I didn't know Priya had it like that I'll be honest when she did her heart rate challenge it was a shock. Aiden always always comes from. Where does this come from? That's what I also don't get like I'm so happy her and Aiden because she is so beautiful and I know she's done things, said things but like she said it in jest she's such a sweet girl like why did all the boys get a bit icked out by her? She's very she's like Aiden the girl version of Aiden so she's very friendly with the boys she's always grown up and been like in with the boys group so it's more of like a friendly vibe I feel like that's what people were getting from her and her relationships are friendships so they go from friendships to lovers that's like her thing with her exes oh really but a lot of the boys don't aren't used to that they don't sort of like that they feel like they need that initial spark that initial you know instead of going friendship because friendship to lovers is quite hard I think in my opinion as well it worked for us yeah there you go I was gonna say I think it's really beautiful I just think it takes the time it takes That's why with like For example Like Meek and Sam I was like The hate on them is not fair Because they're actually like They have to go from friends To like kind of a base point And then grow from there There's like A bigger Do you know what I mean?

32:02Yeah but we had that Honestly the first time We were like such good friends Like really close friends And then she walked out In a bikini And I was like Oh my god She did a heart rate And I was like He realizes I was a woman I'm like What the fuck Did you think I was before? I was like What the fuck You're a chick And I was like You're a girl Like what? It's only clock that you were like she's hot you were hot I was like this is crazy and that's when it happened and then you say your couple should be your best friend as well didn't they yeah but then when you kissed your best friend in the beginning it's a bit weird you're like oh my god yeah so when you guys first had like your first kiss after being friends were you like this is weird we were so drunk so drunk and on a flight back filming Made in Chelsea like all the crew were there and we obviously didn't want them to know when we were like in the front and we were like kissing with like a jacket over us the poor lady next to us must have been like but I've told this story before but the reason why I knew it would work I'll say it so quickly when we first got when we first had a bit more than a squeeze right like I felt like an electric shock came through my body and I had to stop and I went do you feel that?

32:58it was so weird and I was like feel what? did you feel that? I can feel something it's like this electric and I was like and I was like we're soulmates oh my god shut up wait that's so cute I love you I love you you legit said that did it EQR or did you love it? I was like more like what are you on about like let's get on with things she's cold don't stop him if he stopped and went can you feel that and Sophie is like clarify what you mean because I can feel something was it difficult that people struggled to accept that you and Lorenzo were just friends and that you were actually for Kath yeah I think at a certain point it just got really jarring like it started to annoy me and I think it started to annoy you too we were just like this is so boring because like it genuinely was from my side I can't speak for Lorenzo I don't know how he feels but from my side the minute it became a friendship it was a friendship I never went really looked back even like the flirty jokes for me it was just like part of my character I'm like flirty and stupid and silly when I'm not with someone like that would never happen now but at the time I was like it's just who I am like I can just be silly and flirty and it didn't mean for me anything deep so yeah the platonic thing like that people were trying to push that on me I was like guys this is jarring and still now I feel like people want to say that and I'm like okay what about for you that must have been a little bit like come on yeah it just got boring I think I said it like a few times it got to a point where I was just bored of that whole narrative it was like is this still a thing like really are we not past this whole stage like it got to literally like I think a week two weeks before and it was still a thing in there you know you know what I will say like you really won you handled it in a really good way because you showed you were like quite alpha in that sense like you didn't you didn't let it you didn't fuss you didn't fuss but you also were not okay with it it was attractive and you go like hang on this is you just say what you you say what you think we're holding your like respect within yourself type thing yeah yeah I get it He's not like Keeping a storm up He's more just like This is weird And everyone takes it They're like Actually fair They're like yeah okay fair Because you're not I know exactly what you mean Talk me through Yulia Lorenzo It feels like sometimes The girls had a bit of Tension with her So I think it was weird Because we as the girls Were so close From the beginning Like it was genuinely A sisterhood To the point that I think Most of the tension Was always like Boys v girls Because it was like It wasn't even about Couple stuff It was like The girls versus the boys Because it was like We were so close I feel like the dynamic Did change slightly after Caso which I think is quite a normal thing to happen.

35:16It wasn't necessarily that I think there was a divide. I think it just, you could feel that maybe there was like, you know, more of like an allegiance or an alliance on different sides for different reasons. And I think Yulia is a massive character. She's such a confident, like strong woman. She says how she feels. And I think she's super opinionated. And I think like sometimes I would see, you know, trace of myself in her. I'm like, that's iconic of you. But I think where we started to struggle maybe as like a girl group was like, what we were quite good at doing at is like, I think the emotional like reading the intelligence part of it like if someone was feeling something you kind of just like stop.

35:50You take a breather and we'd be like okay like we'll talk about this later like it's not that big of a deal like this is minor I love you like whatever. Whereas I think sometimes with Yulia I think the hard part was that she maybe didn't necessarily clock like you're kind of hurting someone now like this is maybe not the time. So that's where it started to go sour. But then obviously like we were in the final of us and like we spent so much time together off camera like those days up until the final and after. Before flying out, we were all together and like, there's no beef at all. Like, it's so minor.

36:20Like, do you know what I mean? Like, you're like, we've all lived this experience together. Like, we all get it. Good response. Because the internet went wild, right? Because not everyone hugged at the end. Oh, I've heard this. Oh, I've heard this. Have you not seen this? Who didn't hug? Apparently I didn't hug, Julia. Oh, really? But I don't remember doing that. And that was definitely not deliberate. I think maybe Maya grabbed me because she has to ask you something quickly. Maybe she grabbed me. Okay. The internet went crazy for this. Did they? But when you guys are standing there, because we were watching it, right?

36:48And I think probably everyone, we were like, well, you guys are going to win. I was ready to bet my house. I was like ready to go with it. And then were you thinking as well, we got this in the back. No, we knew. We knew Lorenzo was going to win. We said it. Guys, I actually knew Lorenzo was going to win. He was his favourite boy, wasn't he, like three times. He was very much... And he played... I've never seen an island play that game. He couldn't step a foot wrong either. Yeah, he couldn't. Even in the villa. Yeah. But did he play a game or was he just like, that's who... No, I think he's clever.

37:17I think he knew, but I think he's also a great guy. I just think, I'm like, fair play, hats off to him. I'm not like, you played a game. It's like a respectful, like, well done. Like, he didn't put a foot wrong. Yeah, he didn't. And when he would, like, this is what I said, I think I said something about how he gets away with murder and like, people keep asking me about that, but it's because he did. Like, he has something, some way of like, working a room that like he just gets away with it. Like people would get in trouble for things that Lorenzo would say and then they'd say it back maybe and they would get in trouble for it.

37:44And it's like, but he said it. He has that bank where he can kind of just like, he just uses it up. Yeah, he just knows. He has like a twinkle in his eye vibe. Like he says things in a nice way and he feels like a really nice, lovely guy. Yeah, he's lovely. He's like, he's actually our friend, you know. We knew he was going to win and it was the joke, like even the whole time everyone was saying like, you've got this. Like everybody was like, you've got this, this is yours. Like all of the Islanders were like, yeah, this is the Lorenzo show. He's got this. We flipped the coin between me and Angie and Simba for like second and third.

38:13That's what we, we knew he was first. We flipped the coin for a second and third play. If you had to say the best quality about each other, what would it be? I think he's so patient and understanding. Like genuinely, it's crazy. Like I can really lose my head. He's so patient with me. Like he gives me the space to do that. And then he'll also know how to calm me down. And like, I need that. I'm just like, you know, I'm a brown girl. I come from a culture that's like very like, you know, we say how we feel straight away and sometimes it's passionate and then you love each other and it's not a big deal.

38:43And he just gives me that space. I love it. He's so, he's just great. He's really like so communicative. Best thing about Jazz? I'd say her communication. She's so articulate, even just of her own emotions, also how she navigates. Like the communication is 10-10. I feel like that's what we've been probably missing a week, two weeks in. But once we got to that stage, the way we communicate with each other in any debate, any situation. It went from like a telling off to let's talk about it, let's debate it. Do you know what I mean? It was so good. And he always, always said to me like, you're so good with your words, you're so good with your words.

39:17Like, I feel like I'm not as good, but I just think you are. I do think he is. I think he speaks so well. He's 21 so well. You spoke like so well and so from the heart. Like out of all the boys. If you had to say your three things to make a strong relationship, what are those three qualities you need to have? Ooh, that's a good question. I'll say communication is definitely out there communication that's massive yeah communication for sure I think compromise great one I love that one like meeting halfway maybe the top one yeah has to be and some things you don't want to compromise on and that's fine but there are certain things that you have to do you know what I mean you know what you're willing to adjust and what you're not without a doubt my third one is I think respect I think you have to I think you have to admire or respect trust as well but I think when you admire and respect someone there's automatic trust because you wouldn't break that trust yeah true you have to look at someone and go like Like, fuck, they're just great.

40:05I respect you. I respect, they're just great. And then when you have that, and you guys have that for each other, which is kind of amazing. Yeah. That's wicked. But we've also, I think we're one of the longest couple, and then meek and sandwich, but then obviously they left. So I think we've been together for so long now and there. So you don't realize that after basically two months of being with someone, like you really do, you have to know them. You two, like what was so interesting and so nice is that once you said you loved each other, you like weren't clucking for the airtime. to the point we were all like fucking hell this is boring get them back and go I was like getting pissed off about it but you were just in love and that's when everyone really fell for you because it's like real that's so cute I love that thank you okay guys quick we haven't got too long left because you have to go okay we're going to play a quick game okay fine quick fire you ready for this it's called Villa Verdict you ready for this who's the messiest in the villa Priya I'll just say the A's yeah here we go the loudest that's why they're together Priya Priya the loudest the most annoying Ooh Ooh Most annoying Most annoying We might have to skip that one You skip it I'm gonna say Aiden But I love him It's like an annoying That's a great shot It's like we used to go Head to head In like a real Sibling way He's like a big brother Biggest flirt Me Dredd I think he was Yeah He was I'd say it's gotta be Aiden You know Aiden went All the way to Kassa And he didn't have one conversation where he wasn't flirting.

41:34That's unbelievable. That is unbelievable. That's unbelievable. It took him four weeks before he had a conversation on just a normal level or something. Oh my God. That's crazy. I love him. Big bro. Most dramatic? Simba. Simba. You love Tiffany. Yeah. The biggest gossip? Me and Cav. Yeah. I feel like we used to just sit and just talk about everyone else. The most likely to start an argument? Me? Yulia? I'm talking about Yulia. Oh yeah, it's got to be Yulia. It's got to be Yulia. Yeah, you know. The worst dancer. Samuraj. There's a video I've seen of us doing the Michael Jackson dance and he is so stiff.

42:12The one everyone will miss the most. Would you mean everyone as in islanders? You can vote yourself. You can say who? No, I think you guys are going to miss the most. If you never saw them again, who would you miss the most? If I never saw them again. Just like that, you're just going to miss them the most not being with them every day. I think like basically he was your best friend I missed Opie I really missed Opie I really did yeah you did what? he was so funny and like on the downtime when you're not filming and stuff he just brought energy like with the Michael Jackson dance but when he left it was like that downtime was just silent can I just say guys you you you you crushed it beyond words you were so great and also you made everyone's evening so fun and so lovely and made everyone have that like warm Sophie always says this thing that you make your heart smile you guys make everyone's heart smile so you guys are great we love you guys so much we love you you guys are amazing you're going to kick ass go and enjoy every single minute of it and come back anytime thank you so much honestly you're amazing

43:18I'm absolutely stonkingly pooped after that stonkingly pooped stonkingly pooped you couldn't sound less Gen Z like they are and more boomer you're stonkingly pooped you're do you know what I'm not even listen love you we've just got to love each other and just all share the love because that was a lovely episode I love you so much have you filled that little obsession I filled that little obsession would you if they asked you on a date would you go on a date with them what just me as the third couple yeah you as the third wheel third wheel yes but I'd also go on a double date with you that would be great in fact I think we should organise it alright listen I hope you guys really enjoy that you're only 16 years older than Kat I'm not 16 years older.

44:02You are. How depressing is that? I'm not. I was 10 when he was born. I was not 16. 10. I was not 16. I basically had boobs when he was born. All right. Anyway, okay. This is another conversation for another day. Listen, thank you so much for tuning in. Hey, before we go, if you enjoyed this, if you liked us, remember to subscribe. Also, if you liked this, you can send us any messages. Anything at all we want to hear from you. Put the comments in the YouTube description. you can send us messages on our Instagram at newlyparentspodcast you can send us emails newlyparents at jampodproductions.co.uk everything is in the show description and we'll see you next week for another absolute stormy I'm so Jasmine and Kav you're great if you're getting married go for it baby if you're ready and sexy and ready to mingle just put on that little slinky outfit and get out there and if you're having a baby oh my god get the rest in because you'll be exhausted love you goodbye see you later goodbye

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