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Podcast Notes: Nightcap - Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 2
Podcast Overview Title: Nightcap Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson Description: A nighttime sports talk podcast featuring unfiltered takes on NFL, NBA, and college football, with reactions to games and headlines.
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Episode Details Episode Title: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Bears Moving to Indiana? Seahawks For Sale + Minkah Fitzpatrick Trade Rumors Description: NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden discuss the potential relocation of the Chicago Bears, the sale of the Seattle Seahawks, trade rumors involving Dolphins safety Minkah Fitzpatrick, and more. Timestamps:
- 00:00 - Minkah Fitzpatrick on trade block
- 06:40 - Seattle Seahawks for sale
- 11:10 - Bears moving to Indiana?
- 22:10 - Super Chats
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Key Discussions
Minkah Fitzpatrick Trade Rumors
- Minkah Fitzpatrick, a five-time Pro Bowler, is reportedly on the trade block.
- Discussion about his high contract ($17 million) and affordability issues for teams interested in trading for him.
- The hosts contemplate whether the Dolphins will trade or release him, considering his potential value and the salary cap implications.
Seattle Seahawks For Sale
- Discussion on the Seattle Seahawks being put up for sale following the estate of Paul Allen.
- Hosts reflect on the philanthropic implications and the impact on the team and community.
- They highlight the historical context and potential changes that could follow the sale.
Chicago Bears Relocation to Indiana
- Rumors about the Chicago Bears moving their stadium to Indiana sparked a lively debate.
- The potential aesthetic and logistical aspects of the new stadium design are discussed, along with fan reactions.
- Concerns are raised about the implications of changing the team's location and name (i.e., Hammond Bears).
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Key Takeaways
- Contract Dynamics: The challenges of trading high-profile players due to salary constraints are a significant topic.
- Team Ownership Changes: The sale of major franchises like the Seahawks may lead to substantial shifts in team operations and community relations.
- Fan Sentiment: Relocating iconic franchises can generate backlash among loyal fan bases, emphasizing the emotional connection fans have with their teams.
Super Chat Highlights
- Engaging with live audience questions and comments about player performances and team dynamics.
- Hosts encourage interaction and express gratitude for fan support.
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Conclusion This episode of Nightcap features rich discussions among NFL legends about the intricacies of player contracts, team ownership changes, and the sentiment surrounding potential relocations of historic franchises. The candid exchange highlights their unique perspectives as former players while fostering an engaging dialogue with fans.
Next Episode: Tune in for more insights and discussions on the latest sports headlines!
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCharlie Fitzpatrick's Legacy
1:15 to 2:36
Discussion about Charlie Fitzpatrick and his influence during segregation.
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Minkah Fitzpatrick Trade Rumors
2:58 to 6:45
In-depth discussion about Minkah Fitzpatrick's trade situation and contract implications.
“I think he got, like, maybe a year left or two, maybe.”
Max Crosby's Future in the NFL
6:45 to 12:09
Analysis of Max Crosby's situation with the Raiders and potential trades.
“And this one I'm looking at for Max, too.”
Philanthropy and Sports Team Ownership
12:09 to 14:04
Discussion on the implications of Paul Allen's estate selling sports teams.
“I know the Seahawks, they might offer him a little something.”
Discussion on the Chicago Bears Moving to Indiana
15:12 to 17:38
Explore the implications and reactions to the potential move of the Bears.
“Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating.”
Debate on NFL Stadiums and Changes
17:39 to 21:08
Discuss the design and financial aspects of new NFL stadiums.
“That looks amazing, but I'm going to tell you this right now.”
Experiences with AstroTurf and Football Fields
21:09 to 25:06
Share personal experiences with playing on AstroTurf and its implications.
“Why y 'all taking the stadium up out of there?”
Memorable College Experiences and Turf Conditions
25:07 to 28:00
Revisit college memories and the conditions of playing fields.
“That was the most depressing thing that I had seen in a minute, bro.”
Breakfast Banter and Super Chats
28:00 to 29:54
The hosts share their breakfast experiences and engage with fan messages.
“I had a breakfast, man, look, we got the lady inside cooking the breakfast burritos for us.”
Fitness Advice and Golf Skills
29:54 to 31:18
Discussion about fitness, gym habits, and golfing skills among the hosts.
“Said the Browns need to play at the local rec department.”
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Charlie's Place Story Introduction
31:18 to 32:08
Introduction to the story of Charlie's Place, a historical venue.
“Segregation in the day, integration at night.”
Golf Skills Discussion Continues
34:57 to 42:01
Continuation of the light-hearted debate on golf skills and athleticism.
“Bro, I pulled my delt swinging that damn golf.”
Casual Banter and Super Bowl Nostalgia
42:01 to 43:06
The hosts engage in light-hearted banter while reminiscing about Super Bowl memorabilia.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Joe Haden:This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person? Welcome to the Boys and Girls podcast. Arranged marriage is basically a reality show and you're auditioning for your soulmate. And who's judging? Only your entire family. I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition, hoping to find love the right way. And instead, I found chaos, comedy and a lot of cringe. Listen to Boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:58Joe Haden:The iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules. Segregation in the day, integration at night. It was like stepping on another world. Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero? Charlie was an example of power.
1:39James Harrison:They had to crush him.
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2:21James Harrison:Hell, they ain't nothing friendly Look man, you got You got them looking at Trade talks for Minka again Dolphins in trade talks for Minka again Look at that That man just got there Dolphins had trade talks Five time Pro Bowler Minka was released Earlier the week included He coming back or what are we doing? We can't afford him It's It's money. You know, I mean, Minka, he knows what we got for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I don't know. I don't know if he's going to come back to Pittsburgh. It would be nice. Minka's a baller. Here's the thing. I think he got, like, maybe a year left or two, maybe.
3:09James Harrison:A year or two left playing? I don't. No, no, no. I'm talking about for this contract. They're trying to trade him now. Like, dude, I think his pay is like$17 million or something, dude. Like, y 'all can shop that around all y 'all want to, bro. I don't think nobody's jumping on that again. But, Depot, this is what I'm trying to figure out, though. End of the day, the money, the figure, what do we— What's the highest paid safety making? Probably around that,$20 million,$18 million,$20 million? I don't know. I would have to look and see. But I'm saying like, when you get to the elite level, like Minka, he's amazing.
3:51James Harrison:He's a baller, five-time Pro Bowler. It's not his fault. I understand, but you just said yourself. I know, but that's why I'm looking at it too. We can't afford it. We can't. And that's why I'm looking at Minka and it gets to the point where, do you have enough bread? And now, when you get into this free agency or they're thinking about trading you? He ain't free. I think they're going to end up either, if they could trade him, they'll trade him. But if they can't, I think they end up releasing him. and if you release him then he's free and he's free now we got to change yeah it's just that minka gotta look at the um and figure it out like is it when it gets to that point debo who's offering you the most money when you sitting there and your agent look here who's giving me who's offering what and what's the contracts looking like and then that's when you make that decision like do i want to go win here i think this team is ready to win a little bit less or I'm going to go over here, get me the bag and we're going to get our ass beat.
4:47James Harrison:And that's for sure. But like, that's where you got to make that decision yourself because it's a little, it's the contract. They're going to end it up. Arizona offered me this. Patriots offered me this. Steelers offered me this. Like this, okay. I can go there, get that. Or then, you know what I'm saying? Just making yourself, what's going to make you happy? So it's like, you want to go get a little bit more bag or go win for a little bit less and then like be able to stay there, be consistent. So that's why, I mean, shit. That's why I went to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, when I looked at mine, options was open.
5:17James Harrison:I was going either New Orleans offered me more. I mean, anywhere but Cleveland. New Orleans offered me more, and the Dolphins did. I don't know if I could have turned down more than me. Well, you ain't never won. Shut up, Debo. You're so disrespectful, bro. You ain't never won. I did win. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You ain't never won. Danny Warfel. I'm just saying, man. I'm just saying, like, you ain't never won in the NFL. Steve-O, stop saying that to me. Have you ever won a playoff game? No. Wow, that's crazy. That is crazy, actually. That is actually crazy. But, you know, I think that's why they shopping around Max Carlsby right now.
5:54James Harrison:They, you know, they trying to see what they could get for him. He want to go to a contender, a winner. 100%. See? You see that right there? Mad, mad, mad man Max. He deserves to be with him. Dude, they want two firsts and a premium player. Yeah. He's actually won three first rounders. And they're going to have to pay$40 a year. Yeah, but here's the kicker. He on a three-year deal. So basically when you get him, you might as well be counting on two because this is going to be a ring up after the second. So how many teams are at that point where they can say, I can afford this contract because we are that close that if he comes, we're going to win the Super Bowl by adding him.
6:39James Harrison:And then of those teams, who can afford it? Yep. It's just top. It's top teams. It's top teams. It's somebody who needs. And this one I'm looking at for Max, too. Mad Max, he wants to win. When the Raiders sat him down during the season, they were tanking and I saw it and it blew me. It just made me mad because at the end of the day, you know, Debo, when you try and you really want to win and you really want to go. You might not know because you play for the winning teams. When I'm with the Browns, and I'm like, bitch, I'm out here going as hard as I can. And, like, are we trying to win the games?
7:16James Harrison:And I'm looking at Mad Max. And if they sit you down and you're healthy and you know that they don't want you to play because it's like, are we trying to lose? I can't be involved in this situation. So if I'm him, I respect the fact that Mad Max is out there balling every single week, even though he feels like his team ain't trying to win. Or the coaches, why would you sit your best player down? Like, if I'm coming to the game, all right, bet, I'm ready to go. Nah, Joe, you're going to sit down. That means y 'all guys are trying to lose. You guys are trying to get a better draft pick. I can't be here.
7:46James Harrison:So if I'm Mad Max, I'm trying to get out of there. I'm trying to get to a team that's trying to win games because he's only one man. And when he's like, oh, no, what the Raiders defense do? How the hell are you going? You can't put that on Mad Max. You can't put everything on him. So what's up? So when you're in a situation like that and you feel like you've been on a team that's losing and you just feel like you have no chance to win. No, don't say that. I don't feel like I have no chance to win. I'm just saying, like, you know, you know that you haven't won. Like, how does that make you feel?
8:20James Harrison:I'm going to tell you this. It pisses me off. Okay? Okay. And the one thing is you start to really work on yourself. You know, like I'm going to do my part. I'm going to make sure it's not my fault. When you watch the tape, coach is going to see Joe's on it. Every play, man to man. Boom. Check, check, check. Tackle, PBU. You're on your alignment, your assignment, and your technique. So you just got to basically make sure you're not the problem. Put down the notepad, Debo. Put down the notepad. Is that effective for you, Joe? I'm taking notes for your therapy session. Is that effective for you, Joe?
8:56James Harrison:I mean, I've just been feeling a lot of these players, Wyatt Teller, Mad Max, being disrespected. These dudes love the game. They're trying their hardest. And the teams are just not, they're not rocking with them. So that's what throws me off. How does it make you feel inside? Debo, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Put your fucking paper down God Hey man, listen man They talking deals everywhere man Seattle They selling the team Well the trust of What's his name Paul Paul G. Allen Yeah, they're selling the estate The estate of Paul G. Allen Whoa, and they're giving it all away Bruh that that food I can't say it can you say that word?
9:59James Harrison:where? philanthropy that's it I can't say it that's crazy now hold up not just that team the trailblazers too bro selling it and giving it all away I ain't gonna lie to you bro when I first heard that I was like, ooh, that's crazy. I can't do it. I can't do it. Not the whole thing. Not the whole thing. Not the whole thing. I got it. But then I started looking at it, though. Started looking at it, Joe. Paul Allen, I don't think he got no cheering. No wife. He got a sister. He passed in 2018. So he ain't got no line. Look back at it. He ain't got no line. And what he doing? He using that money to help you.
10:53James Harrison:I was just thinking he had a line. If you ain't got no line, give it to the good. Give it to the good. Please, we need better people in this world. That's amazing. If he got a line and he didn't get him nothing, oh, I'm not rocking with my brother. I ain't going to lie. That's why I started looking. That's why I started looking. I said, oh, somebody done fucked up bad. Somebody done pissed that off. Somebody done messed up bad, bro. And I ain't talking about just a little drug problem. They just did something bad. For sure. There's needles. There's needles involved. They bought the team in 97 for$194 million.
11:29James Harrison:That boy about to get billed. Well, he ain't about to get bills. The state about to get bills to be able to help all these other positions out here. Now, with that being said, the cornerback, Willen, he's up. What they going to do? They going to get him right. How they going to get him right? He's up. What you mean? What you mean? He up. So now they got to give him a contract. You think he ain't going to go out there and get an exacerbator? This is his first. You know what? He's going to go. And as he should. He got the Super Bowl. They won the bowl. My man Spoon is going to get the bag on the other side.
12:09James Harrison:Spoon. And now he, that's what I think. Go get your bag. You got your ring. Go get your bag. And still go play. And still try to go get another one. But that's where the situation is. I know the Seahawks, they might offer him a little something. but he's going to be able to go get his bag. And that's the point where I say it, like you say, Devo, go get your bag. If you won the Super Bowl, you're doing your thing, go get it. Because this is his first one. Like this is, you know, you do, you play. Once you get in there, he did what he had to do, won the Super Bowl. Now was his time to get paid. Segregation in the day, integration at night.
12:46Joe Haden:When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world. Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform.
13:09James Harrison:The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.
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16:11James Harrison:I can respect it. You know... Yeah, buddy. That's the best way to do it. Go win the Super Bowl on your rookie deal and then go get the bag after. Now you just rich trying to go get another one. Not with a year left. Rich trying to go get another one. And you're free. He's free. Give us, us free. Free all the way, dude. I wish I could have had that. Ain't nothing like that free agency. If one of my Super Bowls I won had been when I was free, that would have been great. What about you? What if you got one when you was free? You already know. How was yours? When you won yours, you wasn't free. Shut up.
16:53James Harrison:Why you do that, man? When you won yours, you weren't free. I couldn't see you. When you won yours, you weren't free. You know I ain't win one. Oh, my bad, Joe. I can pluck you sometimes, bro. You did be saying disrespectful things. Yo, bro, what? I'm just talking, man. I'm just talking about you. You don't want to know what's disrespectful? What? The Chicago Bears moving to Indiana. That is weird. Look at that. That's what the stadium is going to look like right there, Joe. Stadium is going to look like that right there, Joe. That looks fire, though. That looks fire. It looks AI, and it looks fire.
17:34James Harrison:Right on the water. That looks amazing. Boy, that's the Hammond Bears right there. That looks amazing, but I'm going to tell you this right now. I know some real live Chicago Bears fans that will be pissed. I think their fans are - What you mean? Will be pissed. They already pissed. Oh, no, no. Is this official? Are they really - It's not like the mayor or whatever it is. Are they really moving it? They trying to do something. Debo, they can't - They trying to get everything right. Like, uh-uh. Don't do that. Don't do that. Please, Lord. Don't do that. Don't do that. I know the Bears fans will lose their minds.
18:16James Harrison:Listen, so do the name change, though? Are they still the Chicago Bears? Even though they in Hammond. Hammond Bear? Hammond Bear. Nope. That don't even have no ring. No, and you can't use the C then. Listen, they about to change everything. Because now you're getting new uniforms. Now everybody that's a Bears fan got to come back and get some other stuff. They got everything coming through on that, man. Don't do that. We're grabbing all the money. And you want to be the first. You want to be the first. I mean, that's always, man. It's for the dough. It's definitely for the dough. So I ain't going to lie.
19:03James Harrison:Look at that. Look at that. That stadium, Debo, looks unbelievable, though.
19:10James Harrison:the Hammond Bears.
19:15James Harrison:The Hammond Bears. Oh, D-Bow, I'm cool on the Hammond Bears, but the stadium is fire. Why they can't put, don't Chicago got water? They can put that right in downtown. Man, what they go do, it's already on the water. It ain't on the water like that. Not like that. That bitch looks like it's an island. That looks like an island stadium. You got to take a boat to that joint. Man, that's fake. It ain't going to look like that. I hope it don't look like that. That's what I'm saying. You got to take a boat to the stadium. It's crazy. I can't hate it if it look like that. I ain't going to lie. That's fire.
19:48James Harrison:I'll go.
19:54James Harrison:Listen, man. What it come down to, man, is they, you know, they couldn't find taxpayers in Chicago to pay for it. They going to Indiana. in Indiana, like, you know, we might have some pockets for you to go ahead and get that built right here. We can help you out. Chicago made like they ain't want to help out. That's crazy, though. Hey, how you think the Browns went to Baltimore? Y 'all don't want to get a man in the stadium. All he wanted was a stadium. Get a man in the stadium, bro. No, I don't know. I like the... I like the stadium. I love the stadium. I like... If that's what it's going to look like, the rendering is on fire.
20:41James Harrison:The rendering looks... I mean, AI. It's AI. It's AI. Because I know the... Did you see the Commanders? The Commanders joint in the middle of D.C. that they got the projection to make looks unbelievable. No, I didn't speak out. Oh, you got to keep that one. I'm telling you, D.C. got one coming. And you know the Browns, obviously, we opened up a new stadium coming up in 2020. Yeah. Haslams, you know what I'm saying, doing a big one. Y 'all doing what? New stadium. New stadium. Why y 'all taking the stadium up out of there? That's so against the, you know, whatever. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is.
21:19James Harrison:Y 'all just built that up a stadium, bro. No, no, no. We didn't just build that. We just upgraded it. But them boys just went in. Because you know what they're making? My man, the Haslams are not. They're smart people. They're building a whole town, Deebo. They so smart, they can't win. They're smart because he's smart money man. He's going to make money. Money's going to be good. Money's going to be coming in. Money's going to be good. So you're saying the football part you're saying too? I'm with you. I don't know. They've been making a lot of missteps. Okay? You see they putting the roof on that thing too.
21:49James Harrison:Yes, so they can get Super Bowl. You throw the dome on it, you can get Super Bowl. Uh-huh. I'm going to tell you right now, man. It was so cold over there in Minnesota, man. When we went over there, man, you step outside. Oh, Lord. Man, if they ain't have a dome over there, boy, them boys back in the day, dude, they was playing on that turf, concrete, bro. Yes. Raggedy. AstroTurf, rip your whole skin off. Do you know where the AstroTurf came from? The baseball team, the Astros. They were the first team to do it in like 1970. Yep. They started AstroTurf. So now you want to be a history player? Because I went and looked back at it because I'm trying to figure out why everybody started doing AstroTurf.
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22:36James Harrison:And then that's when, you know, Deion. Bro, did you remember when they were wearing Michael Jordan shoes on the field? Listen, listen, listen. Basketball shoes? Listen to me. I played at Kent State. Did y 'all have AstroTurf? That was our turf. Did you have AstroTurf? That was our turf. Astro? Real life. Bro, we played. You played with sneakers. You played with Jordan. You can play with Jordan. I played. Dude, hell no. I couldn't afford it. But you can play with some Nikes on. You know what, man? That Rich Man Problem stuff, man. I wish I could get that, though. You played with just some Jordans on.
23:09James Harrison:You messed your Jordans up. You messed your Jordans up. I played in some Pumas. Okay. Okay. Okay, you saying both? And they... Like, I played... No, they might have been Reebok now when I think about it. Still good. But anyway... You playing in some Reebok classes? It was flat bottom. It was flat bottom. No. No, because you... I don't want to buy no classes. I should have got some Nikes and went out there playing some of them old dope games. I'm telling you, man. You know what I'm saying? Couldn't have been out there playing them Super Freaks and then Randy Mosses and then Bo Jacksons. Dude, you ain't never hit that old turf, Joe.
23:44James Harrison:Evo. No. Joe. I think I hit the turf. Joe, look. I don't know if you can see that. That's old turf from college. That's what I'm talking about. Hold on, dude. That's old turf from college, Joe. I got a little turf. nope I'm just a little ashy I don't got no turf on me right now
24:06James Harrison:yeah see you went to Florida y 'all played on grass we had an astro turf practice field though y 'all ain't have that y 'all wasn't falling on it and it wasn't astro turf it had the beads in it it was turf astro turf is nothing but flat carpet it's flat carpet laid on top of concrete I know what you're talking about. I didn't play on it. And a thin piece of rubber like that, they think go take away the impact. They crazy, bro. I almost broke my back on that damn thing, bro. Like, come on, man. Dudes was out there in the games wearing sneakers. That's when I'm like, this is crazy. You're wearing sneakers on a football field.
24:52How?
24:53James Harrison:Dude, when I played at Three Rivers in college, I was playing with Kent State, right? And we're like, yo, we go get to play at Three Rivers. We was playing Pitt. I'm like, yeah, you know, we get up in there, man. Listen, Joe, I ain't going to lie to you, dude. That was the most depressing thing that I had seen in a minute, bro. I get into the locker room. When I get into the locker room, each locker got an ashtray in it. And it's dirty. Oh, so they been smoking in here. Dog, they was smoking in there, bro. I don't know if they were smoking now, but they were smoking there at times. Like, you know how crazy that sound, bruh?
25:34James Harrison:Halftime. They blowing a C. They stressed out. The nigga talking about, hey, man. That bruh. Man, they running there. Hurry up. They're motherfucking trying to kill me. I can't even. You're trying to kill yourself. Damn. Yes. Oh, my God. Bruh. That's like all you got to do. That's crazy. So listen, now we get out there and we like, we thinking we go get this good turf. Nah, bro. It was, it was, it was the turf that we was used to being on. And on top of it, dude, it was parts of it that was just bunched up could trip you. I think, I think, I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was covering.
26:18James Harrison:Like, dude, it was, it was bad, bro. It was, it was so, it was, it was like literally almost balled up. And then we had a rain delay. Right? We had a rain delay. And as we go inside for like the rain delay, bro, it's leaking water in the water. Shut up, man. You lying, bro. I ain't lying. I'm like, this is, you know. I was never, you know, I wasn't thinking about no league, nothing, anything. No, for sure. I wasn't like you. I ain't know my friends. You getting rained on. Hey, who behind you? oh my good man Sam man I got my good man Sam man one of my golf one of my golf trip members you know okay they trying to check on the show seeing what time we got a tea time in about 35-40 minutes hey tell him tell him we got we working right now we got work to do come on man tell him go ahead get you another drink he want to be useful Mark spicy alright yeah spicy spicy margarita Tabasco sauce.
27:22James Harrison:Come on, man. Bro, Joe, I ain't going to lie. I'm a little disappointed. And you telling me it's earlier there than it is here? Debo, I'm on a vacation right now, man. I'm on a vacation. I'm having a great time. You know, I'm just out here with the homies. Just living. Just blessed. Just grateful. You know what I'm saying? I got breath. I got breath in my lungs. what could be, you know what I'm saying? That's all, that's it. Just go. Just go. Just go. Just blessed to be here. And then you go, what did you eat, Joe? What did I eat? I had some. What did you eat? What did you put on your stomach?
28:04I had a breakfast,
28:05James Harrison:man, look, we got the lady inside cooking the breakfast burritos for us.
28:12James Harrison:You ain't at a hotel? You got a house. You got a house. And I got my sticks, golf clubs. so you already know what time it is, D-Bo.
28:24James Harrison:Yeah. Man. I'm sticked up. Man. I'm sticked up. Man, we got some super chats. Your tea time might have to get pushed back, buddy. Come on. What is your tea time, man? Hell with your tea time, man. It's mine. We got super chat. It's C-D-I? What's that? CD-Ock or C-Doc. It's C-Doc. C-Doc. $10. It says, Debo, you're my favorite player of all time. Can I please, can you please tell my boy Mike to stop lacking and get in the gym? Mike who? Tell Mike get in the gym. Tell him to lift some weights, Debo. Get his back right. Tell him I said get his back right. Hey, that's how I know you. Get his back right.
29:15James Harrison:That's how I know when you're swole. you don't go to arms chest get that in the back right get his back right that's what people say hey we ain't looking at no arms nothing get your back right with his back what's your shoulders look what's your shoulders look like oh little back ass you know what i'm saying your back so little your back so little i ain't gonna lie the arms still do come in you know they come in handy You know, it come in handy. You know what I'm saying? Listen, man, if I don't love me, who will? If I don't love me, who will? You know your boy love you, Deebo. You know your boy love you, bro.
29:53James Harrison:Straight up. Covenant life back. Covenant life. Gotta get Covenant life right. $7.397,$10. Said the Browns need to play at the local rec department. Oh, Covenant. I love you, Joe. Covenant. I thought you was my dog. Y 'all are complete trash. Uh-huh. Yeah. She said y 'all complete trash. I redirected that jersey. I was sending it to your ass, covered it. I redirected it. She said, by the way, where Jarvis Landry? She said, by the way, where's Jarvis Landry, man? I don't know where Jarvis Landry is. Is he retired? Is he down there with you? No, no, no. He ain't here. He ain't here. He ain't down there?
30:39James Harrison:Hold on. My man, Keyshawn Johnson here. About to go golfing with him. Okay. Okay. All right. My dude, we got Mike, Mike-100 donated$5. He asked. He said, what up, Debo and Joe? Who is the better golfer? Debo. You already know what time it is. I'm sitting over here right now. Index getting a little high. I'm 11. I know Debo's probably like a 30 handicap. He don't even know what that is. Bruh. He don't even know what the index is. Listen. Just know. I'm going to tell you, listen. I don't know what the hell a handicap is. I still don't know what it is. But I will say this. I don't swing a golf club no more.
31:23James Harrison:Bro, I do putt. That's it. And I ain't good at that. Segregation in the day, integration at night.
31:33Joe Haden:When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world. Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform.
31:55James Harrison:The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.
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34:57James Harrison:You try to hit the ball too hard, Debo. You swing too hard, probably. Bro, I pulled my delt swinging that damn golf. That's why you never just pull your delt playing golf. You got to be smooth. You got to be smooth. Nah, bro. You're too swole. They're talking about just swing it. Just let the club do the work. Let the club lead you all the other stuff. Let the club do the work. Out of my face. Let the club do the work one more time. Like, I'm going to tell you right now, the only way you are good at golf, you victim weight. Got to be. No. You got to be, man. And you got to be. No, bro. I'm just telling you.
35:41James Harrison:My good man, my best friend, Gino DeSilvio. Anything, anything, anything, anything too, anything too 10 and down victim weight now. My boy, my boy 235 scratch zero baller. Yeah. Now what you got to say about that? Is he fat? No, he's like, he's normal. What's normal? Like, is he over, is he over 15 % body fat? I would say he's, I would say, I would say 12, 13. So he's over 15, which means he's fat. I was fat
36:20James Harrison:he ain't got no muscle to pull look at John what's his name the big dude drink all the beer and swing the golf club John Daly John Sop yes yes yes big body big but he ain't gonna pull no muscles because there ain't nothing there to pull what about Tiger Woods how you gonna say about what about what about Roy McIlroy Tiger Woods victim way and he the nicest nigga ever he the nicest girl forever I know but still I'm just You're making my point. You got to be victim weight to be good at golf. Oh, you got to be victim weight to be good at golf. You said you got to be victim weight. Okay, okay, okay.
36:51James Harrison:Yeah. John, I'm wrong. There are some... John Daly was big, but wasn't no muscle to it. You got to be victim weight or have no muscle. Victim weight or have no muscle. That's it. Joe, it's no other way. It's no other way to do it. I'm just mad because I can't disprove this point because I am victim weight and I am nice as hell at golf so that's just why I just like I'm going to go ahead and take it so you're going to you so you're going to be bad you was fighting that the whole time at least you just admitted I am victim weight because you was fighting that the whole time I said it I appreciate you Joe now we're going to go back over to Covenant Life oh my god Covenant Life hit us with 200 I'm not.
37:42James Harrison:Woo, Lord. She said, if both of you were coming into the draft today, where would you rate yourselves and your worth? And would you have say on who you? Hell no, you ain't got say on who you signed with. You don't have say on who you signed with. And then she said, next, if you had just completed your rookie contract, where would you rate yourself? I love you, guy. I love you, too. I love you, too. I'm trying to rate it myself goddamn high. No, no. If you were coming into the draft today, where would you rate yourself and your worth? If I was coming into the draft today, like, I got drafted in 2010, but I'm acting like I'm the same me in 2010 or right now?
38:29James Harrison:Joe sitting at Cabo with the margarita. Yeah, which one is it? Is it right now? Covenant, is it right now? If I'm margarita Joe, I'm not getting drafted. let's do both right now. Free agent. You ain't getting picked up. Not getting picked up. My hips are too... Yeah, we ain't neither one of us getting picked up. They would lose the draft pick on me. They would waste a pick. Free agent picked up. Now, in your prime, in your prime, you free. Oh, in my prime, I'm still... I'm going... Just complete. I'm going top... Like, top 10. I'm going top 10, same way. You know, I went seven, Debo. So where you want to go?
39:09James Harrison:You want to go back to Cleveland? Honestly, bro, I wouldn't change. I mean, I want every... Either, I mean, the Browns... The way I went to Cleveland, I love the city. I had so many... I don't want to take... I wouldn't change... What year you came in, Joe? 2010, Joe. 2010. You've been in the league that long, you ain't even won a playoff game. Hey, man, I think I got a tee time, D-B-B. I got a tee time, man. I got to go. I got to go. Listen, man, you can't leave on the people. Why do you keep knocking my people? We got to finish these chats, man. Talking about my playoff. Or non-playoff. I'm just asking a question, Joe.
39:46James Harrison:I ain't asking the people this. They asked? I ain't asking. Covenant Life. Our girl, she asked. You better listen, man. Just answer the question and do what you're supposed to do, man. How do Life keep shooting these shots? I thought she was my homie. Hey, she came back, too. She sent another five down. She said, you better send my jersey and stop playing. Both of you. She talking to me, too. Don't play. I got too much love. Thank you. Look, as long as you keep coming with that love and don't be talking crazy about your boy Jody, I got you. I don't know about Debo, but I got you. Hey, listen. She ain't never said nothing crazy, man.
40:19James Harrison:I know she ain't never said nothing crazy. Never said nothing crazy. Matter of fact, matter of fact, hey, cover. I got something for you. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Stay right there. I'll be right back. Hold on. Stay right there. Oh, no.
40:33James Harrison:Covered it. You know I rock with you. I'm really, I'm sending that jersey to you, darling. Facts. Who knows what Debo about to go get? Yes, man. Holy bro, what you got? I got one for it. Let's go get it to her. We're going to get it to her. We're going to get it to her. Hey, bro. Boom, look at that. No. Hey, bro, real talk. You got to send me one too, bro. You got to send me one, Debo. You got to send me one, bro. You got the Super Bowl. What? Come on, bro. Yo, you got enough jerseys over there. What are you talking about? This is from the first Super Bowl. This is not even the second one, Joe.
41:16James Harrison:This is from the first one. Mitchell and Ness. Yeah, yeah. That's their jerseys, man. I don't know you know about that Mitchell and Ness, man. Danny Warfel. Yeah, you see that right there? That's the throwback. Okay, okay. You know about the throwbacks? Yeah. You know about the throwbacks? Listen, man, that's from legends, man. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's how it go, bro. Hey, bro, let me get one of them real tall. I can throw it up in my bar. You know what I'm saying? They got to be like, hey, Mr. Harrison, can we make your jersey, sir? I'll be like, hey. Since you act so nicely.
41:48James Harrison:But make sure you send me some. Make sure you send me some. So I can send one to Covenant. And Joe. And I'm not sending one to Joe. Thank you. I said I'm not. Huh? I got you, dog. I got you. That's the, hey, listen, that's the alcohol ears you got on you right now. You hear the thing, Joe? I got you. Joe, I got you. Thank you, Debo. Look here, Joe. I need that. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you, you know, probably in about another year or two, it's probably gonna be another one that got a different Super Bowl emblem on it from the same company for another legend. Derry Super Bowl victory by the Pittsburgh Steelers in dedication of the Immaculate Interception.
42:44James Harrison:All I know is, Debo, yes, but send me one of them jerseys, man, signed to your boy because that shit's fire. I got you, Joe. I got you, though, man. It ain't no problem. Look here, man. We want to thank everybody, everybody, man, for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcast. We will be back here on Monday. And I'm assuming Joe has some tea time that he has to get to and all this other stuff. But Joe, go ahead. Guys, Debo and Joe, we would love you guys to pull up on us. And I had to pull up in Cabo. You know what I'm saying?
43:20James Harrison:Great vibes, great energy. Appreciate y 'all. And we will see you on Monday. I'll be back at the crib in the office, same spot. Let's get it. Here we go.
43:40Joe Haden:Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person? Welcome to the Boys and Girls podcast. Arranged marriage is basically a reality show and you're auditioning for your soulmate. And who's judging? Only your entire family? I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition, hoping to find love the right way. And instead, I found chaos, comedy, and a lot of cringe. Listen to Boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules. Segregation in the day, integration at night.
44:20Joe Haden:It was like stepping on another world. Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero? Charlie was an example of power. they had to crush him. Charlie's Place from Atlas Obscura and visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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