Jennifer Garner

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1:11They are such a great stack. I loved reading them this weekend. They're so fun. Did you sit down and read all of these this weekend? Yeah, I read them all before. I'd read Little Women before. Well, of course. I'm sure you'd read all of these before. Well, I think we have different childhood classics in the UK. It's a lot more like Enid Blyton and Roald Dahl. Of course, of course. So I hadn't read a lot of them before, but they're so fun. They're so fun. Have you always been a big reader? I've always been a big reader. When I was a kid, I grew up in this little town. And my big sister is this really brilliant woman.

1:44And as a kid, she kind of shone over the whole town. She was the son. And it felt that way, especially to her little sister. And I was Melissa's little sister. and what I had was this incredible relationship with our school librarian who saw me for me and her name is um Annis McCann I still visit her when I'm home um in West Virginia and I called her mom McCann and she let me go into the library and shelf books with her and spend time with her and I got to organize the card catalog and I would help her order and she even made a little area for me inside an old refrigerator box and let me sit and write because I wanted to be a children's book author.

2:30Did you? Yes. And children's literature is so important to me that when you asked my five favorite books, of course, there are so many that I love. But this is what I went back to what my mom and I read to each other every night, one page at a time. Have you ever tried to write a children's book? I never have. You should. I think that'd be so fun. Yeah, I have a lot of respect for authors and what it takes to author something and I don't pretend to yeah have that skill I like to um to read what they write I know it is so fabulous we've chosen some incredible books and I thought we could start with Charlotte's Web by E.B.

3:06White tell me what do you love about that book I love that how transcendent friendship is and how kids are brilliant enough and open enough to hear everyone speaking around them. And it's only as we get older that we lose that skill. And I love how naughty Templeton the rat is. And I love that in the end, he gets to be part of the hero's journey. And I read it aloud to each of my kids. And all three times, they talk about it, they tease me about it. I cry at the end. I cannot. And I have to like put the book down and have a real cry about it you know like the thought of saying goodbye to Charlotte is like and that that is your beautiful introduction if you're lucky enough to the end of life let that be your introduction yeah and that that it's okay and that the her children go on and oh it's so good it is and it's really that like silent hero like she's I love the little funnier sides like when they're announcing that will was like the prize pig or whatever and they're like obviously you know a spider cannot possibly make a web on their own and she's like oh they can't come there like it's so good it's so funny she's the most clever she's Meryl Streep yes she is she's the most clever very best most elegant yeah most just yeah Charlotte is everything it's so charming isn't it so charming I was really struck by when I read all of your books there are very like I I think I gravitated towards almost like slightly darker childhood story, like the sort of Roald Dahls we were discussing before.

4:46Did you, were you drawn to the sort of like safe, because it is such a safe space. Like I think one of the lines I wrote down is, every day was a happy day and every night was peaceful. And I was like, oh God, to live in that world. Yeah. I think this is kind of what my childhood was. I think I had a very sweet childhood. And I loved the darker books, but these would definitely be, I mean, I read each of these books a million times, but definitely my first time through was with my mom. And she read to me. We read back and forth all the way through middle school. Oh, wow. Really? Oh, interesting.

5:24I know. Isn't that crazy? I have one of my kids who let me read to them that late in their life. But the other two, you know, one kind of stopped in seventh grade and one was just like, I cannot you read so slowly and I'm like thinking I'm reading so quickly it's such a special thing I do think reading to your kids is the greatest gift you can give them yeah I agree with that you know they become like my kids can really learn listening you know they really like I used to be able to say okay I know we're in here somewhere um Mrs. Berry was here no after that okay the warming scene nope nope after that it there's another not a sister that we're their mom on that page a little further it's like great oh wow that's lovely yeah that's such a lovely habit I thought I mean there's this line in that where they talk about how with fun like when she's looking after Wilbur they talked about how all the animals trusted her are you a big animal person I am a big animal person I love animals I love I love farms I love barnyards in any way shape or form so yeah I am a big animal person but I wouldn't define myself I wouldn't say like I am an animal person.

6:36I just, I am because I'm a human and I love animals. You bought your family farm, right? Yes, I did. That's true. What's that like? Well, my mom grew up on this tiny farm in nowhere, Oklahoma. And they had a little house that was so, it was like two rooms. There was a front room and a back room. There were all these kids and they would sleep like one facing this way, one facing this way, kind of all through. And I think I romanticize it because they had a cellar. My grandmother, Violet, was really good at canning food. She was really clever at food. So they weren't hungry. But that is it. And she always kept them looking really neat and smart.

7:22But it was back when the feed sacks for animals were made out of calico. And that calico she would use to make their clothes. Like my grandmother was born in a covered wagon. You know, it was really like early Sooners and the house didn't have running water, electricity or until my mom was like much, much older. I don't think it ever had running water. But yeah, it was just this little farm and my uncle was living there and my mom said, oh, you know, I think she would be so nice for Uncle Robert if you bought the farm and I said of course I will so um it had been bought on a handshake a hundred years earlier and we my business manager had to go back and find a record and there were no records oh wow and he was so he was just like really what are we doing but he figured it out he figured out something that made it official oh my gosh that's incredible yeah I mean that sounds very similar that your mom's um childhood to the house on the prairie kind of vibes of this like house being built.

8:24I couldn't, I mean, it's astonishing because like I said, I hadn't read that as a kid, but reading that, I felt like getting this American history lesson. It is. And now I read it and I see it as colonialism. I see it in a totally different light. And, um, it kind of, my daughter actually wrote a paper about Little House on the Prairie for college that's so brilliant and really looks at it through a different lens, which she has, she has worked really hard to see the world in a much more, you know, she's much more educated than I certainly have ever been. But oh my gosh, as a kid, I didn't see that at all.

9:00I just saw the romanticism of what this family went through and how they only had each other and their dog, Jack, the good dog, Jack. And just everything that it took to grow up on the prairie and to to colonize yes but also to be pioneers in this beautiful incredible country of ours yeah there is also awareness though because I loved that line that when Laura's mom is being you know sort of nervous about like native community she's like well why did you move here if you don't like them there's just like this little aside and it was just so smart and capturing the way that children can often like hold up a mirror in the most like like brilliant way yes absolutely yeah laura knew she was much more knowing about what was happening yeah than her parents totally so did you read that book as a kid growing up i've probably read it i've probably read the whole series 15 times 20 times easily easily are you a big book rereader i am oh interesting yeah i am I mean yes I mean we haven't gotten to some of them yes I have I've read all of these many times but this one I've read many many many times and the first book that she wrote Little House in the Big Woods that is almost like it was Laura Ingalls Wilder's first book and it's almost a how-to yes like she's really describing to you this is what you do with a pig when you butcher it totally this is how you handle dry the meat yeah this is how you dry the and she I mean her daughter I guess rose just um helped her more and more craft the story and learn like what the narrative was that people were interested in yeah it's so beautiful and the I love how like her dad really just sort of takes her under his wing in terms of like showing her everything and like teaching like Like that scene of them making the door together for the house.

10:57I just, I thought it was, I was such a, I'm one of three girls as well. I'm the middle one. Are you really? Yeah, middle child of three. And I was very like close to my dad. It's very special to be a middle girl. It is. Of three, isn't it? It really is. And I was very close with my dad. Yeah. Yeah. It's a sort of. I was almost the son. Yes, me too. Yeah. Me too, exactly. I was meant to be a boy big time. My name was supposed to be John. But I'm not John. I'm definitely not. But yeah, I kind of became like the... This episode is brought to you by Welch's Fruit Snacks. Big news for your kids' lunchbox.

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12:12An amazing Mac at a surprising price. Find out more on apple.com slash Mac. Exactly. I was a bit outdoorsy and loved helping my dad with stuff like that. I loved helping my dad. Like holding the ladder or doing like all that kind of stuff. My dad was a sailor. Oh, wow. And he loved to sail out right into a storm. As all the sailors would be coming in, my dad would be like, well, you know, reef the mainsail. Out we go. And we'd go out on this tiny 23-foot boat into the storm. And there was a bimini over the cockpit that, I don't know what you would call it, like a little awning almost. and when the storm would get crazy the bimini would like knock my dad and he couldn't see where he was steering the boat so my job everyone would go below and dad and I would put on our foul weather gear and I would hold the water off the bimini and it's like that is my special dad memory but yeah that's the sun thing to do right it is it is it's just sort of like the other second daughter ends up in that I know it's because my younger daughter was definitely younger daughter her younger sister was much more sort of like demanding of attention but I definitely like slotted into all the gaps being like how can I be helpful of course well that Laura is the same exactly helps her dad yeah it's so special it's so so special and it's sort of I mean that image of their mom ironing the dresses in the desert I was like uh-huh I could barely be bothered to iron a shark when I'm like I know but my grandmother Violet sent her kids to school with their hair braided, clean, smart, ironed.

13:46And they were wearing cow's feed dresses, really. You know? So cool. It's so cool. I know. My parents were exactly the same. I have this memory. One of my memories of my dad is him polishing our shoes on a Sunday night. Every night and the smell of that like shoe polish in the hallway. It's so special. Do you ever crave the isolation of like the little house on the prairie? Or you're more of a city person. What do you kind of prefer? I honestly there's nowhere I go that I don't think like oh I could live here oh interesting yeah yeah every time I'm on location I think well this is great I love this is my new home yeah I love this I just I I need some kind of neighbor I like people but yeah it's an interesting version of neighborliness in that book as well because I was struck by how the neighbors all help each other but then there's this real fear with Laura's parents about like owing people and not being like Like not taking too much.

14:37Yes. Well, if you keep going, you get to a little town on the prairie. Oh, okay. And they start to have a town around them. And that's, it's kind of satisfying. They start to go to school and she becomes the school teacher anyway. Worth a read. Yeah. I love that. And, you know, I thought, yeah, it's such a, it's such a special book. Let's talk next about Ramona the Pest. Let's talk about Ramona. I loved this one. Isn't it? Yeah. So she's so, she's a lot like Laura. Yes. You see, like, there's a through line. There's a through line of, like, these mischievous, curious young girls. Yes. The ones who just can't, they itch.

15:13They get a little bit in trouble, whether it's Anne. Exactly. Whether it's Joe, Laura, or Ramona. Fern is perfect. Yeah. No, Fern is perfect. Fern is perfect. She is. But Ramona is such a pest. She is. She's so sweet. Did you read that book as a kid as well? Oh, yeah. I mean, I was obsessed with Beverly Cleary. Obsessed. Started writing a book when I was little called Ramona the Meek. Because there's a book, Ramona the Brave, and I was writing the opposite, that Ramona was having a really hard time. And this was, I was very, very little. Ooh, these are not the original illustrations. oh if they mixed it up i disapprove when they change the illustrations um but yes ramona quimby she's always getting in trouble she is but she has such a lovely teacher she does because the teacher's really trying to give her space and like you know i think it's such an interesting story of how to be a like caregiver for especially i mean were you ever told you were too much as a kid or were you like i've been told that today yes because me too like it's that sort of and it's so hard I think I watch my sisters with their kids like parenting like spirited children like you want to give them space but also yeah steer yes it's it's tricky it's tricky yeah it's a bit tricky is this the the one where Ramona goes to the art class with Beatrice no and she okay so I'm gonna get the wrong one but Ramona goes to an art class with her big sister and her they they're supposed to draw something wild and Ramona draws a dragon and it has lollipops on its back and the clouds are big pink cotton candy and the teacher talks about how great Ramona's drawing is and it hurts Beezus's feeling because Beezus is a firstborn.

17:03Yeah. She's doing the line straight. She's doing this and that and I think that that is the thing about Ramona that I loved is that she gave me permission to draw outside the lines to be a little bit messy to be unhappy to dreamily wear my pajamas under my clothes to school and think that that was going to work out okay things like that yeah it's so sweet also the family has trouble yes like the dad is this the one where the dad loses the job oh no no oh my goodness sorry i'm getting my ramona screwed up there's so many the dad loses his job and the they have to pinch and you know they have to tighten their belts as they say and and it's like real trouble but the parents are solid and the family is solid and so it was a very gentle way to learn about you know everything isn't always perfect totally I watched the first few episodes of the new season of your apple tv show and um I thought that it's the last thing that um he told me and you're moving on to season two but I thought that that has so many interesting models of different types of caregivers as well because I was thinking about in the context of all these books you have the mothers and you have this sort of like the teachers and the guardians especially with Anna Green Gables and I sort of I was curious what drew you to the part of Hannah and you know as this kind of stepmother with Bailey I was really drawn to Hannah because she is imperfect and because she is figuring it out and while she's an artist she doesn't live as outside the lines she's a little more organized than I am as a person and that feels good to me.

18:40I like that she has her act together more, her clothes match, and nobody has put them together for her. She knows how to get dressed. So there's so many things I love about Hannah. We always say she's the grown-up in the room. Yeah. She's the grown-up in the room. And she's a benevolent caregiver. In the way that Marilla, have we gotten to Anne yet? We're going to get that. Okay, well, she's Marilla. Yes. She's a reluctant mother. You know, she's coming into it. She loves this man. And Marilla obviously has no love interest. Obviously. But Hannah is so in love with Owen that she's ready to give being a mother, a stepmother, her all.

19:28And little does she know how complicated a teenage girl or an adolescent girl can be. Yeah. which Anne was for Marilla and which Bailey definitely is for Hannah. And what I love is that as we enter season two, it's like the later books in Anne of Green Gables where Marilla is the most dear. She is a true mother to Anne and Hannah is a true mother to Bailey. Yeah, no, I love it. And I loved I was reading the first book this weekend as well. And I loved some of those lines I wrote down like, I have no desire to push her. I have no desire to demand that she come inside when Hannah's talking about on it when she's doing something with Bailey.

20:07And I was like, oh, that's such a like lovely way of like being able to, again, give someone space to sort of like. Hannah is very wise. Yeah. But she yearns for it. She wants that connection and she tries too hard. She's too much in that relationship. She's like, I'm going to make you this pasta that you liked. Of course she screwed it up. Of course the kid isn't interested. It's like, Hannah, do less. And in this season, she has done the most to take care of Bailey. She says, you know, Bailey, I want you to grow up. I want you to go to college. I've got us. I'm going to keep us safe. And in keeping them safe, she has done, you just can't even believe all the things that she's done to prepare for the inevitability of danger.

20:52And you're doing fight scenes. All of it was that fun. Oh, it's always so fun. I love it. I love it. I actually boxed a lot to get ready for the season. And my boxing coach ended up being in the first episode playing my boxing coach. Oh, is that that when you do the training on the beach? Yes. Oh, I love that. Yeah, he'd never been on camera and he was like, well, okay. Off we go. His name's Flacco. He's wonderful. That's so fun. No, I loved it. And I read that you wrote a letter to get the part. Are you able to share anything of what was kind of in that letter? I think that was where I first said that Hannah's the grown up in the room.

21:29And I was kind of just talking about motherhood and I was talking about the ways that somebody can disappear on you and it can bring out the best in you. Because you have to rise and you realize how capable you are of rising at the nadir. Yeah, totally. You have no choice but to go up. And so I just found, I find Laura's writing to be incredibly profound. And what I love is that it kind of tricks you. Because if you really love wise, profound writing that's all about these deep relationships with people that you fall for, okay, great. but really you can't stop turning the pages because there is underlying this thriller and this engine of like what is going to happen and she manages to give you a twist at the end of every chapter it's like mic drop again yes every time and if you love the action then you're going to be taken aback by how deep it is so either way you can't go wrong I know and it's so subtle another bit I wrote down where's where someone goes are you a therapist and she goes no I just pay attention I was like that's women everywhere everywhere like the amount of times men have said that and I'm just like really if you start underlining things in Laura's books you're you're gonna you're gonna yeah you're gonna need a new pencil yeah exactly it's so true it's so true no but I loved it and I thought the all of your books have really interesting models of motherhood and the way that mothers can show up and you know the mistakes they make and the successes they have it's really beautiful maybe we should move on to Anna of Green Gables I'm ready what a treat tell Tell me what you love about this book.

23:11Anne of Green Gables. My mom keeps by her bed. She reads a little bit of it at night like the Bible. And she quotes it like the Bible. And she will quote and she'll say, oh, that's Anne of Green Gables. And we'll be like, no, mom, that's Ma Ingalls. Or that is – or she'll say, oh, this is the Bible. And we'll say, mom, you taught Bible study for 10 years. You know the Bible backward and forward. you know that Ma Ingalls did not come up with this. It is from the Bible. Or the same with Anne of Green Gables. She will quote the two. I mean, it's an ill wind that doesn't blow some good. Ma Ingalls.

23:50I can't even think of how many sayings from my childhood come from Anne. But anyway, the puff sleeves. Yeah. The need for home. I know. And yeah, and how she finds, oh, it's lovely. the rich friendship with an opposite. That her best friend is the polar opposite in every way with her creamy skin and her dimpled elbows and her black hair and her utter lack of imagination. Her practicality compared to Anne, who is just a, she's a filament above a cloud. Yeah, I agree. I love that line about kindred spirits. They're not as scarce as, so scarce as I used to think. It's splendid to find out there are so many in the world.

24:35Do you agree with that? Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yes, I do. A kindred spirit is a conversation away. Wow, that's beautiful. I just made that up. Oh, I love it. Trademark. So do you make like new friends all the time? Is that something that you're like, or not friends, but like connections? All the, I mean, yeah. Not in a ridiculous way, but yes, I can leave a subway ride thinking I am now walking away from my best friend on the earth. I love that. That is possible for me, but no, I don't do that all the time. No, that's so special though. And I loved, you know, Anne has is the epitome of someone with big feelings, right?

25:14Anne has big feelings. She has second kid energy. Yes. Even though she's an only. Yeah. Yeah. She brings middle daughter energy. She does. Oh no. And she's so fun. And she's so like, they really give her space to kind of like figure it out. Well, she's quite a mess. Yeah, she is. She gets her friend drunk. and she gets in so many pickles is she the too much salt yeah she does she just does everything wrong but she does it with her whole heart I loved um there's also this line about Marilla and Matthew and they're different types of that Marilla does the bringing up and Matthew offers appreciation and sometimes appreciation does as much good as the conscientious upbringing how did you how do you find that balance as a parent oh I think I do a bit of both and I think my kid's dad does too, especially when you are in, your kids grow up in two separate households.

26:08I become mom and dad, he becomes dad and mom. You kind of can't help it, right? Because you don't have the benefit of both sides, the yin and yang being in the same house. And so you have to have a bit of both in the way that you parent. There's a little bit of loss in that, but there's also, there's also something gained in that. Yeah. Yeah. You also just learn, you know, it's made me let go and not focus so much on the bringing up. My mom and dad alternated at being the bringer up in different contexts as well. And it's quite lovely to know that one can be one and the other and alternate. Yeah.

26:45It's like a nice quality. Yeah, I think so. But in this case, Matthew is always Matthew. Yeah. And Marilla is decidedly Marilla. And it's very, if anyone out there has someone to read these books with, oh my gosh, do yourself a favor. You will laugh so much. Sit down and read these with you. And read it as an adult. Like I'm reading some of these because I was familiar maybe with TV adaptations. They're so fun as an adult. Like I was sat having my lunch on Sunday in like a cafe. I was like, this is so pleasant. Oh, they're such great books. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm going to clearly go back and read them all.

27:21Although I've read them all to my kids pretty recently. Oh, that's so lovely. Well, your final book is I Thought We'd Save the Biggie for Last, Little Women by Louisa May Alcott. Tell me about your love of that book. It is a perfect book. Yeah. It has love. It has intrigue. It has the country kids doing okay. It has the missing father and the promise of him possibly appearing. It has the perfect blessed mother. It has the scare of the illness. Yeah. and faith and then it has tragedy yeah it has real tragedy i mean is there anything more sad i know i just love the portrayal of the sisterhood in it the sort of like the squabbles and the vicious fights and the swift forgiveness i always remember my sister's husband being baffled by the way me and my sisters could be at like complete loggerhoods and then 10 minutes later be like should we pop out then yeah because that's just how sisters are yeah you have to be yeah it's the Yes, you absolutely have to be.

28:18But when Jo cut her hair. Oh, yeah. Oh, I actually danced a ballet of little women in high school. Oh, wow. My mom calls me Jo because of Jo. Did you always identify with the character of Jo? Of course. And in the ballet, I was Jo. Yeah. I love that. That's so special. Did you and your sisters ever do anything as terrible as like the burning of the book? Thank God, no. No, me neither. No, we didn't do anything nearly like that. it was just we squabbled over clothes exactly yeah totally um and then once I took a big bite of a ham and cheese sandwich that was the last of the ham and cheese sandwich uh ingredients in the house and my little sister got really mad and I got really mad back and we didn't we like both cried um yeah but that's as bad as it got and we still talk about it oh that's I completely agree yeah yeah those those wounds run deep but I can't imagine doing something like burning the burning the book oh it's awful oh it's so naughty it's like hard to forgive even when I read it I find it hard to forgive I know I know yeah it's totally hard did mommy shape you as a mother at all do you think like reading it oh I'd love to be like mommy yeah oh I hope my kids think that I'm a little bit like mommy yeah I don't think I am I'm sure you are I don't think I am I think I go to work you know I think I'm much more distracted and much more um but I really give it the old college try oh that's wonderful and the the friendships in it are so lovely like because I always try to when people ask about having sisters I'm like I have like two parallel relationships with them they're my relationship is like a sister with our parents and then friends which is slightly different yes somehow yes agreed and and when you when someone else enters the picture suddenly your sister is your friend yes yes it's that relationship instead like with laurie suddenly they're friends and they have laurie exactly by the way did you ever read the penderwicks no oh that's i need to read it well it's a kid series again but it's it's almost like they're it's almost based on but it it's well written enough that you forgive them oh yeah great i was interested as well that you i'm talking of friendship in the new season you have Judy Greer back with you.

30:36Tell me about that. Very well done. You're very good at these takeaways. You know that? I let my little pivot. Yes. Yeah. You're good. Pivot. Judy Greer, one of my oldest, bestest. We have been friends. We shot 13 Going On 30, I think, 23 years ago. It came out 22 years ago. And it was kind of a magical movie to make, as you can imagine. And it was toward the beginning for all of us. And it was a really big deal for Mark and for Judy and certainly for me even though at the time it was we didn't know if it was just going to be a fluff movie that no one ever saw we never of course imagined it would have this yeah the legs the way that it has um and Judy is such an incredible actress I've worked with her five times now and this was I think this show as actors was my favorite it was very satisfying.

31:32She really brings it. I mean, there were some scenes between Judy and Angauri Rice where I am just watching these actresses. And Angauri is 24. She's so talented. I mean, she just blows us out of the water. We're just, we can't believe her. And you know, she's an author. Get in the game with the college branded Venmo debit card. Wreck your team with every tap and earn up to 5 % cash back with Venmo Stash, a new rewards program from Venmo. No monthly fee, no minimum balance. Just school pride and spending power. Get in the game and sign up for the Venmo debit card at Venmo.com slash college card.

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32:53Yes Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah, she has her second book coming out with her mom, Katie Rice. Oh, I need to look that up. Kate Rice. I think Kate Rice. But anyway, the two of them were so incredible that I would forget to say my lines because I was watching them go, but I would interject in the scene, but it's really their scene. And I would just be like, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. They're amazing. But, yeah, Judy's just. That's incredible. Yeah. I did spend a significant part of my Sunday looking at the pictures of Jenna's childhood bedroom at 13 going on 30 trying to work out what books were on the bookshelf but I couldn't quite see it but I feel like she would have read she would have had all of she would have had all of them every single one of them and I feel like we capture at that point where she's maybe like I'm too old for those now but actually quietly she wanted to read oh yeah oh yeah for sure yeah for sure she would well thank you so much this was such a pleasure I'm so grateful they were five brilliant books and I loved reading them and I hope everyone goes to watch the last thing he told me it's so fun I was gripped isn't it's just so gripping isn't it just a really fun season yes yeah I'm really thrilled with it I hope people like it I think it does a lot of it does pure justice to the sequel which is you know was an instant bestseller um and that people are loving but it also so it does a great job for that it it pays off what you want to know from the first book, but then with the introduction of new characters and the way the story goes, it's like barrels you in a whole new direction.

34:23So very fun. Oh, good. Well, congratulations. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. It was so fun.

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