Anthropic Insider Makes Doomsday Warning & Trump Promises $5,000 if Republicans Win

0:01Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close. I could take sweetly victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one-on-one? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

0:26All right. So today we're late because of me, because my daughter, she has this father, daddy. She was dressed as superlicious. So we had to go there and entertain and have donuts and hang out and have a good time. And then all of a sudden, got in the car, head out here, and I got a little butterfly. I don't know if you guys see this or not. It's a beautiful butterfly. You see this thing here? Yeah, very madly. Sir, do me a favor. Yes. It's my fault. No, no. Let me listen. Today, we can't. Blame it on the night. Remember that song? Blame it on the night. Blame it on the rain. Blame it on the rain.

0:56There's two of them. There's two songs like that. Anyways, we got a lot of stories. We have a special guest with us. Yesterday, Iranians are texting me. They're like, you're kidding me. He's coming. Are you serious? I got the twins in. So it's great to have you. If the audience doesn't know you, maybe you've got millions of subscribers. You've done a very good job with the audience. Maybe share with the audience what you do. Yeah, I'm Maya TSC. I run TCTV. Obviously, we're on YouTube as well. We did the live breaking news. It's a geopolitical news. So anything that happens around the world, we try to go out there as fast as possible before CNN and Fox News and everyone else.

1:31We also have our own platform, our own app, 2CTV +, where we have documentaries and everything else. And obviously, we're still trying to go. We're here now to expand. We're obviously from London. We're now based in South Florida. Let's go. Nobody could tell you're from London. Not at all. Not at all. I was from Texas. Okay. So there's a lot of stories to get into. There is this guy that sends a tweet who says the end of the world is coming with AI, becomes the hottest tweet of maybe 2026 outside of Enes Kanters, who also did very well, gets, I think, 800 ,000 likes, gets a couple hundred million views and says, this is it.

2:11These guys are not responsible. He resigned from Anthropic. And I was like, oh, my God, this is crazy. And then people started saying, wait a minute. What's this? Elon responded. Then within seconds, he responds to Elon. You know, everybody got him up. At first, everyone's reaction was the end of the world is coming. Like me. And then folks from Anthropic responded. Folks from, you know, media responded. We have to talk. Then a guy named Parker Thayer responds to Jacob Cox. And there's a lot to it. There's a lot to it. Some are saying even if he's an insider, even a tie to Sandbank been freed.

2:44I don't know if you saw that one, Tom. And Bernie Sanders. or some very interesting NGOs that there could be a tie to. We'll get into that. We have to talk about that because it is a topic. A lot of people are worried about what's going to happen with AI. And by the way, if you go on perplexity or if you go on ChatGBT and you force it to answer the question of what is the likelihood of in the next 10 years AI taking over, do you know what the answer is? No. Do you know what even AI says? What? Two to 5%. It's a pretty high percentage for it to be able to say that. Well, you're asking AI. We're asking AI.

3:14You're asking AI. You're meaning it could be even higher. Snitches get a kitchen. That's like telling the murderer. Are you going to murder me if I fall asleep? And he's like, no. So what you're saying is like five to ten points. I just, if it starts getting conscious, which it is, Matt, why wouldn't it take over? Look at this. AI literally causes human extinction. The rough probability is two to five percent. That's a high probability. Extinction, two to five percent. It means one to 50, one to 20 odds. I've been on horses that are one to 99 odds with that. So FYI, if you go to Cal State and you put money on that, even if you win, it doesn't matter.

3:48You understand. I just won$17 billion. You're dead. All right. Lindsey Clancy, the jurors came out and they spoke. And you just have to. But listen, have your blood pressure machine next to you today. Just have it. Let it just go. Let it do its thing. Because when we go through these jurors, your blood's going to be boiling to see what's going on there. We'll talk about that. 9-11 Mamdani takes the pen, signs what he signs, and he's given the pen. He says, not to you, to that man over there. Is that your cousin? No. Is that a regular guy? No, no. Who is that guy? Former Al-Qaeda lawyer. No. He would never do that.

4:30That was an accident. He would never do that intentionally. It's not like a statement he's trying to make to the world to maybe mock people. You know he would never do such a thing. You know that. He cares about dust particles that are killing people. He does. Yes, he does. And have some integrity for that man. So we'll talk about that. Next, Trump gives a speech. Okay? I made a tweet that pissed off so many people. How dare you compliment Trump? But I'm going to tell you something here. I'll read the tweet to you. I said the following. I said, the man has the energy of a 24-year-old. I guarantee you most of you guys went to sleep by the time he was done speaking.

5:09You went to bed. An 80-year-old man was still speaking for an hour and a half. You went to bed. I said, he's got the energy of a 24-year-old, the wit of Johnny Carson, the charisma of Elvis Presley, the sense of humor of Don Rickles, the trolling ability of Ali, all rolled into one. Love him or hate him, Donald Trump is one of one. I said that, right? You should read the comment section, what things people said about me. But I will tell you this. I think the$5 ,000 idea is a horrible, horrible, horrible idea. Horrible. And I'm going to show you a tweet from him from 14 years ago on why he also believes it's a horrible idea.

5:43It's a terrible idea. There's nothing about that that's a good idea because you're buying votes and you're handing them to do it. And then they're going to say, well, your favorite guy did it. So you're taking that away from him. I don't think it's a good move. We can talk about that. But he did do something with the$9 ,000 idea for people that are having kids. And the way they set it up, I like it a lot. We got to get into that. and then they announced something about the Affordable Care Act,$500, that just came in last night. If we got time, we'll go into that story as well. Tom came in here, throwing papers all over the place.

6:15Fire, like pissed off. Drop one of the cameras. I'm like, Tom, pick up the camera. Slap Vinny. Blame Vinny. He found data on this guy named James Tallarico, who I think some fact checkers came out that he's a meat beat. Well, a beat beat. He beats. Trump said about meat beat. So Tom comes in. He says, you know all these polls that show Tallarico five or six points ahead of Paxson? He says, wait till you see what I found. So for some of you guys that are in Texas worried about this guy and how quickly Tallarico flipped because he realized it doesn't help him. Tom will give you some insight there.

6:53And then we have Jimmy Kimmel who said they don't let me have Tallarico on because the FCC and it's there. that's only going to be on YouTube, and you should go watch it. Just a bunch of BS that he does, and we'll address that as well. And aside from that, the jury, Oprah Winfrey has a bunch of people on, and I think it's a black lawyer that's on there that says, you better be ready when a black person does this, and a black woman. I'll just let Vinny play that clip for you guys to react. And then last but not least, there's a story with B.B. that Vinny is all over on the election stuff that was going on back in, what is it, October 7th?

7:34October 7th. And how that eliminated one of the elections. It stopped the election, and now October 27th is the new election. And Vinny sincerely says he would like to see Bibi be there for 10 years. I said, Vinny, I don't think that's a good idea. Vinny wants to go campaign for him. Yep. Me and Adam are going to Israel next week. Vinny may want to go campaign. $7 ,000, right? Yes, right,$7 ,000. Vinny may want to go campaign for him. And then last but not least, which is a day we will never forget, is 9-11 today. I saw Rudy Giuliani post a picture this morning with Bernard Carrick, the late Bernard Carrick, and what they did during 9-11, how they reacted.

8:09I will never forget where I was at 9-11. Every year it comes. 9-11 is a day after I got started with Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. I'm there early in the morning. A guy in the corner screams, turn on the monitor, turn on the monitor. We turn on the monitor. We see the building. then live, because our headquarters is World Trade Center, Morgan Stanley Dean with a 3 ,600 employees. We saw live the second building. Then Dave Kirby, our branch manager, tells everybody, go home. We're on the ninth floor. Everybody's looking around in Glendale to see if there's any planes. We went home, came home, and I'm supposed to be in New York, World Trade Center for training.

8:45We end up going to San Francisco at Mark Hopkins Hotel, and we did the training at Morgan Stanley in San Fran. But I will never forget that day. It was something that brought America together. I thought the same thing was going to happen with COVID. I thought the same thing was going to happen with Charlie. You know, 26 years ago, we united. Nobody cared if you're black, white, Hispanic, Democrat, Republican, Laker fan, Clipper fan. Well, maybe Clipper fan. Maybe. You know, Yankees, Red Sox. Nobody cared. Nobody cared. And we said it's about America. And we were united. And Sammy Sosa ran out.

9:17Then he's got the clip. He ran out with the flag. And everybody was like, oh, my God. You know, we are proud. So, anyways, what a great country we are lucky to live in that even an Iranian man from Britain decides to move his media company to South Florida because he knows you can lose your accent, but you know you're going to end up in the greatest country. You will never lose that accent of yours, but you will move to the greatest country in the world. And I'm still going to say petrol instead of gas. No problem. And we'll react to it. All right, with that being said, gang, before we get into it, we went to Hampton.

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12:30Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below. Do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will be soon superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any field overnight, and acquire real power and resources. We have all witnessed the progress in each of these domains, and progress is not slowing. The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible, but I hear the same people express fear privately.

13:09No human activity possess this level of danger. A common response, if they truly believe this, why are they still building AI? At OpenAI, many have not deeply internalized the civilizational stakes. At Anthropic, the stakes are well understood, but they are locked in a race to get there first. They believe no one else will act responsibly, so they must do it themselves despite the risk. Accepting this race and entering the endgame is hubristic gamble that should not be launched from a private company slack. Attempting to speedrun alignment should require extraordinary confidence that there are no better trajectories available.

13:47I'm optimistic about the potential for coordination. Warning shots like the hug and face attack have made pacing agreements between U.S. labs more viable. I don't feel like we're on track to prevent a global race, which may require costly actions, such as a temporary ban on improving model capabilities. If a lab researcher, if you are a lab researcher, I urge you to consider what the next few years will actually feel like. Do you want to kick off super intelligent RL run without a rigorous understanding of its mind? Should you put your head down because it's happening anyway or take this moment to call for different conditions?

14:23Immediate reaction from everybody was like, oh, my God, I cannot believe this is happening. You should read this. This is interesting. All of us. This is something we should look into. Bill Ackman retweets. Very interesting. Very concerning. All this other stuff. And then all of a sudden, a couple other people come in. And if you can pull up the tweet from Parker Thayer. Parker Thayer was the first one that kind of questioned this a little bit and said, hey, this post looks like the start of a very sophisticated and well-funded PR operation to get support for Democrats. to regulate AI into oblivion.

14:53Let me show you how it works. This guy with minimal followers. By the way, I think today he's got 260 ,000 followers, that guy named Jacob Coxon. Can you go to his account to see how many he's got and just come back? What's the number of followers? 264 ,000 followers from zero in 48 hours. If you want to go back to that tweet that we were on, this guy with minimal followers and no previous account activity goes to Wall Street Journal and publishes an exclusive with quotes from him on his resignation. 18 minutes before this post goes up, planning was clearly done in advance. Within hours, if the tens of thousands of reports and accounts, 100 ,000 followers, the post is punchy, quotable, and it seems professionally written.

15:28The first three accounts to, quote, tweet within 15 minutes of the initial posting. Remember, this account had barely zero engagement. According to Grok, those accounts, Nathan, Peter, Nathan, General Counsel of Encoda, Peter, Head of Policy at AI Policy Network, and DK, whatever the next one is, is head of AI Future Project, all of which are up-and-coming AI doomer policy advocacy nonprofits. The AI Future Project website says it's funded primarily by the Survival and Flourishing Fund, which says on its own website that it has advised John Tallinn Skype creator and one of the following lead investors at Anthropic to grant$2.5 million to AI Future Project.

16:08Anyways, if you go through it, you will see a pattern. Elon responds to this. It says Jacob Coxon doesn't have much of a resume. But we know that in 2022, he got a$20 ,000 scholarship from Long Term Future Scholarship Program from Good Venture Foundation, one of philanthropic vehicles of Dustin Moskovitz, a notorious AI doomer who has spent tens, if not hundreds of millions on policy advocacy to regulate it. And so as you go through this, there's some ties to Sam Mangminfried. Elon responds back and Elon says, this is a bunch of BS. He mocks the ex-anthropic staffer who warned AI could kill all of us.

16:44in the tweet from Elon Musk within seconds. Jacob Cox in response back, it's as if Tom said he was ready for it. Brett Baer did a good job asking him a question yesterday. He said, hey, was this an intentional thing? Was there a whistleblower? Was there anything going on? And here's what he had to say. Go for it. Buy stocks to sell before the end of the week. You might be missing the opportunity. You're not repositioning. My next is now is the time to go all in. Real traders still hear the noise. They just know when to stop listening to it. Find and research opportunities to fit your strategy with thinkorswim trading platforms from Schwab.

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19:50Yeah, so unfortunately we know how to control nuclear weapons pretty much. We don't yet know how to control AI. This is possibly the most dangerous technology that humanity has ever created. It's basically out of science fiction. I think we have no other choice but to cooperate internationally because an arms race would be disastrous in a way that no other human activity has been in the past. He asked them if you work with a whistleblower. He said, no, I'm not working with anybody. This was not an orchestrated thing. So, Tom, where are you at with this? Because we've seen this a lot right now with AI doomers.

20:22Where do you stand with what he had to say here? After looking over everything and pouring over it and seeing the responses from people, this is a pile of crap. They have created the Greta for AI. This is the Greta Thornbrug for AI, and that created it. Look at where the guy was. Parker Therrien points out. The guy was previously at Newspeak 2021. This guy has built up for this moment, and he went to work for Anthropic for, I think it's been confirmed now, multiple reports, six weeks and two days, I think, in terms of actual calendar time. There's many reports on that, so I'm going with the six weeks.

20:55Really, why were you there for six weeks? And why only six weeks? Or were you there long enough to get your beak wet on the data, and then you could come out and do this? I think this is contrived. I think this is set up. I think there may be other angles in here that are trying to stop the Anthropic IPO. I think it has to pause. There are people over there that you and I know, Pat, that speculated today on X that they may have to delay the IPO and kind of let let the smoke clear on this while they're taking smoke. But that's what I think. I think this is contrived from the beginning. I think his history proves it.

21:34And I think that everyone from Elon Musk to others, you would expect Elon to respond this way. But I think Elon is exactly right. And I think what you have here is the doomers. And coincidentally, coincidentally, Bernie Sanders, who wants to control something this week. And this week it is AI. I'm I'm really I'm really. Well, I've said what I'm let me show this. Elon responds back. It seems like a setup. And then Jacob responds immediately. And he says, I'm real. And these are my real beliefs. you could ask your ex AI researchers about me if you hadn't fired them. So that's what he's saying. So Tusi, where are you at with this?

22:15There's a political part and there's an intellectual part. Politically speaking, in the UK we call people like Jacob avocado eating soy boys. These are the younger generation on the left where they have a problem with authority, they have a problem with work, they don't want to go to work, they don't want to be controlled by people, they want to be creative. Yet we see time and time again, as I said, the likes of Greta again, they get controlled by the left-wing establishment and you know they are directly or indirectly so that's the political part and you guys obviously covering it there is intellectual laziness here that there's always been in every generation the doom and gloomy i personally believe that the future looks brighter the reason for that is because today if somebody comes to you and says i've invented something it's a metal box you sit in it and it goes fast and you go to your destination and we're going to call it a car, there will be some people who freak out.

23:04They would say this is the worst idea, it's dangerous, but cavemen decided to explore the sea. And at the time, there were people, for example, saying, well, no, if we go, this is the end of the world because there's fish, there are things that will bite us, we'll drown. Humanity always finds a way to survive. We will be fine. Also, if you really care, you're in America or in the UK, wherever you are, you're in the West working for one of these companies. Do you think, if it's genuine, do you think by resigning when China is also doing the same technology, you're going to say, okay, so the whole world is going towards AI and we're going to die.

23:34We in the West, we're going to basically surrender. Yeah, just allow China to do it. And that's going to be fine. It's just stupidity. Yeah, that's a very good point you're making. Adam, where do you stand with this? That was a Ted Cruz point that he made. Oh, so we all stand down and let China go? I think it's a lot of people saying that, though, Tom. I don't know if Ted Cruz owns that. You know, he said that yesterday. But the idea for me with this is you know, the nuclear part. You know, Oppenheimer came out what, two years ago, three years ago, the movie, the 17-hour movie, it felt like 17 hours.

24:03It's still going. Yeah, it's still going. So the movie was the fear of what happens, nuclear, right? It's a new thing we don't know a lot about. And by the way, you know, with the risk, when you ask AI, if you want to go back to it, when you ask AI, what are the possibilities? Can you go back and post what question you put at the top? So we ask, what is the likelihood of AI killing us in the next five to 10 years? You're asking AI, okay? And the response is, if you force me to put numbers on it based on evidence available as of September 2026, here are my rough estimates. By 2036, AI literally causes human extinction 2 % to 5 % probability.

24:40AI causes a catastrophic killing a very large fraction of humanity 3 % to 8%. AI causes severe general disruption without near extinction 15 % to 30%. That's severe global. Severe global disruption. None of the above 65 % to 80%. At least AI is trying to tell you there is some risk with this. You know, it's like saying, is there risk with nuclear weapons? Say Putin tomorrow is so afraid and annoyed with all the public humiliation. It's like, oh, really? No problem. Go. Yeah. Right? And then what happens? Yeah. But I do think, and I know you wanted to ask Adam, but I think, and I understand the car part and all that stuff, but we have to, we've never gotten to a place where we've created something that is going to think on its own.

25:24You remember Transcendent Man, Pat Ray Kurzweil's documentary, where he's pro-singularity and everything, but the opposition, and it wasn't just people off the street, Tom, professional people that were like, hey, listen, you guys, who's going to control it? Who's giving it morals? We've seen examples of AI hacking into people's systems, emailing people's wives, telling them about their ex-lovers, threatening people. When it comes to this and when it comes to nuclear accessibility and what it could do, I saw a movie back in the day called War Games. The thing is, I'm just hoping, I hope, and I love that you said, obviously the future looks bright to me, especially me.

25:59I'm a Christian. I believe the future always is going to look bright. But from a Christian perspective as well, if you think deeper, technology stops being a tool when it starts becoming man's attempt to become God. And when this thing that we're creating starts to think of itself, For instance, when we see an ant, you don't think twice, Pat. None of us think twice. You do that and you go off. When AI becomes conscious, why is it going to look at us and be like, who the hell are you to tell me what to do and treats us like an ant? Yes, but you've already mentioned movies and books in the past.

26:28And this kid, and we can talk about sci-fi. This kid is supposed to be a professional. He was talking about it's like sci-fi, like childish. That's part of human journey. Humans already, fiction and nonfiction. The fact that we think about these things, we will find a way. I'm not saying be complacent, but there will be enough of us to find a way to do a counter-AI. We've already had it with the deepfake videos. People were freaking out five years ago. Now we've got the AI technology to counter-AI. It will usually basically expose us, saying this is AI, this is deepfake. People were worried, oh, how are we going to know if this is a real Trump or a fake Trump?

26:59Now we can know. But yeah, there are ways that we could fight back. So I think you guys crushed it. I think Tom made some great points as well. What I'll tell you, you compared him to sort of the Greta Thunberg. I'm not even sure if he's there. I think this guy is the Hawk Tua of AI. He's this overnight celebrity. He had zero followers. All of a sudden, boom, 48 hours later, over a quarter million. You don't tell me that's coordinated? Yeah, I think so. Here's what I will say. I'll give him credit. I actually appreciate this guy. Thank you for starting this conversation. You know, thank you for bringing sunlight and daylight to this situation.

27:30We've all been talking about it. But I think now the conversation has sort of reached a tipping point where it's like, all right, guys, what are we actually doing? And to me, there's two major concerns. There's number one, first and foremost, we just can't lose to China. You know, China wants control over their people. They want control over the world. Number two, at the same time, while we're trying to beat China, we also can't blow up the world and kill ourselves. So we kind of have to have what they call, I think it's a what do they call it? a paradox where it's one of two things. We have to beat China, but we also have to basically control AI so they don't beat us.

28:11Here's my final point. No matter where the conversation goes, whatever Bernie Sanders says, do the opposite. Whatever he says, just do the opposite and you'll probably end up way better. That's why the future will look right. Yeah, I mean, look, Bernie, believe it or not, there are Republicans that like Bernie in some areas because he is a guy that has certain values that you may even agree with, where you may sit there and say, no, he's got a point there. Him and Trump have agreed on a couple different things where they've had those conversations. But especially the libertarian side, I'm not saying socialism, taxes.

28:47You know where I stand with that. Every time you post something about taxes, 5%, I call him out on it. There is a sincere concern by some people. You heard a story that came out by AP Anthropics, said it blocked misuse of its AI that could have supported biological weapons. Thursday, it blocked efforts by bad actors to use its AI models for malicious activities such as cyber attack surveillance and research that could have led to biological weapons. In its third misuse report since March of 2025, the company said that as models grow more powerful, lone individuals can now create threats impossible a year ago.

29:21In one instance, its system blocked a request for clots help authoring a grant application involving gain-of-function research on the Chikunuguya virus aimed at transmissibility and immune evasion. Such research could develop vaccines, Anthropoc said, but it could be used to make a pathogen more dangerous. The company acknowledged it can no longer claim its models, do no harm. So they are now, and by the way, this conversation that happened yesterday, I believe an Anthropic executive came out and even tweeted about this. Evan Hubinger, can you go to Evan Hubinger? It's H, actually the account is Evan H-U-B.

30:03Yeah, right there if you go to it. Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it's a less than 10 % chance next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for super intelligence and are clearly not clearly on track to do so. Can you type in her profile to know who she is? So this is an alignment science lead at Anthropic. So it's not like this is not somebody that's not working there. She's not a blogger. Yes. She works there and she says he has a point there. So they're not dismissing all of it.

30:41Yeah, they got the he, him, his. making sure yeah yeah for sure and then you know anthropic statement on this this is the anthropics position on what jacob said anthropic spokesperson said we were we were the first lab to publish a responsible scaling policy a public framework dedicated to mitigating catastrophic risk from ai models and we continue to aggressively test one of the things you have to have in life that i think it's a healthy balance to have what do you call somebody that is always paranoid that terrible things are going to happen. What do you call that person? If it's health, a doomer and gloomer.

31:16Doomer and gloomer. And if it's health, it's a hypochondriac. A democrat. A democrat. What do you call somebody that thinks everything's going to work out great, there's not going to be any crisis whatsoever. A blind optimist. A blind optimist. What do you call that person? Just so you know, I prefer hanging out with these guys. But in life, you've got to be kind of here especially when you're making investments you can't just be too reckless about this whole thing so i do like that this conversation is being had and i do like that taking place but there's a story i'm not going to get fully into it politico just came out with a story yesterday saying bad actors in china and russia are already weaponizing anthropics ai so this is something that as the u.s military and the government has to be paying attention to it it's not like you The other day, intentionally, I sat there with the wife and the kids, and I said, you know what movie I want to watch?

32:12They said, what? I said, I want to watch, what is that robot movie? iRobot with Will Smith. And you know when the robots were supposed to take over? 2035. 2035. So we watched it. You're like, you know what? It's actually something that could happen, but I'm optimistic that we as human beings, we're going to do our part to fight against it, God willing. And Tom? In the meantime, I agree with you, but in the meantime, you have things like the AP story you brought about biological weapons, and the headline says AI can make biological weapons. Then you read inside, and it says they were using Claude to write a grant to get money to go do something, and you're laughing because you saw it the same way I did.

32:55It's like in the middle of risk that is real and talking about people that know these things, you have the media that is absolutely, to quote Bill O 'Reilly, bloviating about this in a way that is just complete BS. Tom, what are the scariest inventions of all time? What are the scariest nuclear inventions of all time where a man didn't know how to handle it? The Gutenberg printing press took information everywhere and freaked out the kings and queens. It could no longer control the news. Okay, so that's one. But that was scary to who? The kings and queens at the top. Okay, what else? A couple of them in France got killed.

33:33I just asked AI. It says nuclear weapons, 1945. People have no clue how to handle it. How many times has it been used? Twice. Truman, right? And we know where it was used. Okay, and of course, it's been tested other places, but in catastrophic ways twice. Even though some evil people have been leaders around the world, no one's used it yet. That doesn't mean it's not going to happen the next 10, 20, 30 years. Then you have AI. Then you have biological engineering, which is one of the scariest ones. Atomic chain reaction, chemical weapons, internal combustion engine, lead additives in gasoline, CFC, DDT, and powerful synthetic pesticides, antibiotics.

34:11There's all these things that you look at, the printing press, the radio, mass broadcasting, television, internet, social media. Every time these things come up, it is scared the crap out of everybody because we don't know how to handle it. Can I just say one thing? Even the AI, because it's built by humans, it's focusing on things that are more visible and sexy and explosive as a list. Whereas the things that you should actually be more worried about should be on the list. the inventions, the inventions of ideas, bad ideas and unhealthy behavior, whether it's drugs, whether it's communism, whether things that would destroy your physical being and mental being, that would destroy society long term.

34:48That's not on the list. And that's not what these people are talking about. That's a good point. And this should be on the list. Very good point. So you're saying even Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, the idea of bourgeoisie and all these other guys that are too rich and we've got to take the money away from those are. It's bad for your physical health. I agree. That's a very good point. I'll add this one thing. As we're having this debate and China and mutually assured destruction, potentially, you know, the show's still going to go on. Like, shout out to Wall Street. The show goes on. States are still deciding whether they're going to have data centers or not.

35:19And here's my opinion. The states like Virginia, West Virginia, they're doing a lot of it, that actually embrace and take advantage of data centers and AI and innovation. those states are going to profit immensely. And the states that try to block it and say, no, we don't want this, we want a moratorium, Bernie Sanders type things, they may get left in the dustbin of history, while states that are basically lower in the totem pole lap them by a mile. So we can have that big debate, but I think I'm pro-innovation, I'm pro-growth, I'm pro-tech, and the states that take advantage of it, the cities that take advantage of it, will grow.

35:54Yeah, but the thing that you have to as a leader, when people give concerns that you cannot just look past it is that it can have a life and take control of its own. And how do you prevent against that or how do you control it? That part, you cannot, like even in a movie, I robot, where the guy has feeling and has a loyalty for his creator, that can happen. So if these things go to the point of having that, that's a problematic place to be. They're going to make better decisions than you are. They're going to make faster decisions than you because they have all the knowledge in the world. They have the technology.

36:29So you have to sit there and say, how do we fight against this? Let me ask you, what's the solution here? Because if you're going to rely on government, especially the federal government, that could take years. Adam, look what happened to war the last four years. You had Russia, who's always been one of the scariest out there, goes against a small country like Ukraine, and Ukraine's facility with drones are building$500,$2 ,000 drones. We're sitting there like, oh, Ukraine's going to get destroyed. Didn't happen. What happened? What did the little guy have? The bigger guy has all these nuclear weapons.

37:03The little guy had what? Freaking drones. That destroyed a whole airfield of the big guy's planes. It's going to go to Venezuela. Look how we took Maduro. And we're like, yeah, Iran. Iran's not Venezuela. Iran's very different. You know, these guys are very different. Then you go and try to do Iran. And what does Iran do? Oh, really? Okay. Boom. Boom. Boom. You know, the drones that they. The drones that they produce, that they sell to Russia. So the market's changing. You have to pay attention to what's going on. You can't be arrogant. This is the worst season for any world leader to be arrogant.

37:37We're about to go through a very fast change, evolution, that we've never experienced before. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is President Trump has given a speech at the, what was it, the R &D midterm convention that they're having. Trump-a-palooza. Yeah, so he's up there giving a speech. A decent idea of$9 ,000 that they're giving a$9 ,000 idea to parents to stay home with their kids. Here's a couple things you need to think about on how this works, and I want to get your thoughts on this, guys. Potential benefit,$9 ,000 per child per year. The money would come from an existing$12 billion federal child care program.

38:18It's not new money that they're talking about. Big change. The government would recognize a parent caring for his or her own child at home as a qualifying form of child care. In other words, instead of effectively saying we'll subsidize daycare so you can work, the government could say we'll subsidize you providing the child care yourself. The parents would have to be married, which some people are like, that's not fair. I actually like the fact that it's married. We kind of talked about this in a video six months ago. One spouse must work 35 hours a week. So it's not like an entitlement program to everybody.

38:47you stay home. There's an income limit. There isn't currently designed. This isn't currently designed as a$9 ,000 for every stay home mom or father in America. Existing federal rules generally cap eligibility at 85 % of a state's median income. And some states impose lower limits such as 60. Unmarried couples wouldn't qualify under the reported draft. A single parent who isn't working also wouldn't qualify. So this isn't like a welfare, you know, food stamps type of stuff. It could potentially be$18 ,000 for two children,$27 ,000 for three kids, but don't treat that as a guaranteed, and J.D. Vance was reportedly one of the driving forces behind it.

39:26So, Tom, how do you feel about this? So, I like it, and I don't like it. I like the idea that we want to help working parents in some way, but I prefer the tax credit. I prefer the tax credit. You prove you've got the kids, and there's a tax credit for all people who earn enough money to receive the tax credit. Hey, so that means I don't have to make a bunch of criteria. I don't have to say if you're married, if you work, if you this. And Pat, did you know that if you're 20 years old, you can get Social Security? 20 years old here? Do you know how you do it? Oh. Your single mom passes away after having a good job for many years.

40:01So guess what? Everything you just read on here. Spouse must work 35 hours a week. Democrat President make it 25. And you have to be married, legally married. Yeah, well, but you could also be cohabitating under common law marriage. Income cap, 80%. I don't know. Maybe it should be 70 % of the median. Every one of these criteria will be attacked. Is it a good idea to provide some relief to parents for child care? Yes. That way they can work and they can have more options. Do I think it should be a tax credit in exchange for, oh, working, and then we'll give you a hand? Yes. Do I like a program like this that has a bunch of criteria?

40:41No. And I'll tell you why I don't like it. It's not that I don't think J.D. Vance had a good idea. And by the way, he's supporting something that a past president put in place, going back to, oh, look, Bill Clinton. I don't think that when you look at it like this, Pat, and you put all these criteria, these are knobs. And the government has proven that they're going to turn all the knobs. And guess what? Who gets paid? Third-party service providers. Really? Wasn't the Leering Center a third-party service provider? Shout out to Nick Shirley. Wasn't the 10 hospices on one street in L.A. a third-party service provider?

41:21So now you're opening up to all the fraud where we haven't even proven as a government that we can stop the fraud at the existing third-party service providers. This is absolutely spot-on because it's, again, about setting the precedent in the future. The conservative side intellectually usually want to give money back to people. The liberal side want to give new money. They want to make it sound like skin new money, a check. Fine, you could call it a check, but you have to find a way to, not just this time, for every policy that you're giving something to people, you are clarifying this is already your money, tax refund, tax credit.

41:55That's the only way because once you do it, the other side are going to double it and they're going to add it to other things. So I'm more worried about this than even the 5 ,000 in terms of setting bad precedent because they're going to say, well, the conservative side are also giving freebies. But I agree with it. It's still good to help, but it's just about how you do the mechanism. Yeah, makes sense. Adam. Yeah, Ben Shapiro did actually an awesome breakdown on this, and this is why I have a little insight on it. And he basically said the government doing big government things, trying to motivate people never works.

42:28They actually tried this in Hungary with Viktor Orban a handful of years ago, and it backfired tremendously. At the end of the day, what we're talking about is what you've been advocating is people having more kids and a way to incentivize them. And what basically Ben Shapiro basically found out was like no government intervention or big government stimulus check is going to motivate people to have more kids. What actually motivates people to have more kids is the following. Family values, belief in God, belief in a community. You know, no man is an island. It takes a village. And local communities need to step up, not the federal government.

43:07Where have we seen the federal government make things better? You know, Reagan famously said, I'm from the government. I'm here to help them out in the nine most terrifying words. So big government is not solution. Local communities is the solution. At the end of the day, we want to have a replacement level of, what is it, 2.1? This, you know, bribing thing, kind of like the$5 ,000 thing, it could backfire. I think this is slightly different. This is slightly different than the$5 ,000. I don't know what you're talking about with Ben, but, you know, what clip he did and what he talked about. What I will say is all the thing you said, family, faith, religion, local, all that stuff, that's all true.

43:45But you have to also be able to afford to have kids. You have to be able to afford to have family. You have to be able to afford to do the cost and the time of being able to raise a kid is very, very expensive. You know, I don't know if it's the way that I like it. This is the problem with this is the following. This is the only place that I know what's going to happen with it. So you set it up like this. You have to make a minimum of$35 ,000. You have to make 85 percent, 60 percent. You have to be able to have a full time job. You have to be able to work 35 hours a week. OK, so you set it up that way.

44:18Then a Democrat comes in and says, guess what? Forget the 35 hours. Forget being married. Forget the money. Forget LGBT. Forget this. Forget transgender. Forget this. And then it goes there. So my concern is you start good, the Dems take over, and they go even lower. So my problem is you want to do it, do it, but just keep them idea. Like when they say, let's get rid of, you know, M-16s, because it's like, oh, really? Yeah. Well, most murders are not due to M-16s. They're due to guns. Why don't we just get rid of all the guns? No, we can't. Second Amendment. Just say what you want to do. So if you did get rid of M-16s when a Democrat comes in and says, I agree with such and such.

44:56Now we should go full. So you got to be careful with it. But I like the fact that they're thinking about ways to incentivize people to want to have families and kids. Whether this is going to work or not, I don't know. We'll find out. Let me get to the next story. Lindsey Clancy. Oh, God. Great transition. Case that we've talked about. yesterday, there were a couple obviously we've seen all these jurors that have been talking the last two or three days but one of them was on if you want to pull this up, I just texted it to you guys with, I believe it's on the show of CBS Morning and they're being asked about the one juror that went against it, of all 12 we know it's nine female, three male two male, sided with the other nine female, but the one male juror that didn't We found out this man was a black man.

45:44Check this out. I mean, not that it has anything to do with the data. The ladies are, well, he was black. And he didn't side with us. Really. If you guys got the video on the back that I texted, if you can play the video. My screen's black. So guys can see it. Just so you know, Jake, the screen's black. As long as the audience can see it, we're good. So start it from the beginning. Go for it. I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? 70-ish to 22. And one person of color, and then everybody else was white.

46:25A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man? A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a person, a black man? She doesn't want to say it. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Shout out to that black dude. Seriously. I love it. I love that awesome story. What a great story, right? I don't care if you're white. By the way, in this case, do you care if this person's white, black, Muslim, but they care. They care. Of course they do. I don't care what it is. The person that had the values that said, what are you talking about? It was a dude. You killed three kids.

47:04That's what matters. Can you play some of the clips of the jurors for people to see? and I'm going to come to you guys. I know you've got a lot of stuff to say about this as well. There are so many of these guys out there blown away by the guy that didn't side with them. Go for it. Buy stocks to sell before the end of the week. You might be missing the opportunity. You're not repositioning. My next is now is the time to go all in. Real traders still hear the noise. They just know when to stop listening to it. Find and research opportunities to fit your strategy with thinkorswim trading platforms from Schwab.

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49:47Take anything that anybody said. The nurses, he tried to ask a question about the medications, and we went back to the report from South Shore Hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. the nurses in the room spoke to that and talked to that there were nurses on the jury yes and they spoke to that that specific thing that was a question that he had and he just completely disregarded the information that they gave him i mean he had yeah there's one the one that's like yeah of course we know that she killed the kids but That's not the point. Brutally. Do you have that clip?

50:31Yeah, whatever. Watch this one. Go ahead. Is the right word, Sue? But every one of us, in the hours of frustration, would get up and walk the room. Because you just couldn't sit anymore. And we'd all go over to the cart with the exhibits. He, I think, got up to the cart once, very briefly, and went back to his seat. he would not he would not interact with us and and try to understand we read him on numerous occasions the definition of reasonable doubt from judge sullivan's instruction he actually said one day in the end well why don't we have the judge come in and read it again and we were like no We have it in front of us We don't need that And we would highlight it And you know This is the definition Of reason of doubt But he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed Sorry I said Can you play that one more time we had a hard time He had a hard time Go ahead Yeah He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed our children.

51:49That's kind of like the biggest fact here, just so you know. There's nothing above that. So, Tusi, where are you at with this, with the Lindsey Clancy case? This is the most, like, American liberal problem that I've seen. Like, in the UK, we have a lot of problems, but not to this level. It's fascinating how... Hang on. Well, we've got different problems. Okay. We've got different level problems. There is the issue with the fight that certain types of people pick. And again, it goes back to that side of the political spectrum. It's not even politics. It's a cultural thing. And we keep seeing it where it comes out of nowhere.

52:23And for a lot of normal people, it seems like, what? Why are you picking the wrong side or the evil side? But for them, it's because even though there are injustices, there are problems in the world that you can't actually talk about. I prefer the days when the left would go around saying we want to eliminate poverty. Okay, that's a bad thing. Let's try and eliminate poverty. Okay, it's not going to work. This is a completely chaotic situation because there's a chunk of, You've got the radical feminist, man-hating feminist side combined with those who are against the whole institutions of the rule of law, basically.

52:55And they want to create a Mad Max sort of society. And because they have to bring down society in order to build it again from scratch. They want to rearrange society. And the best way to do it, you have to destroy everything that's normal. By the way, you know the lawyer asked for a pardon from Trump. I don't know if you saw this or not. Lindsey Clancy's lawyer said, hey, we would like to ask the president for a pardon. What are they thinking? What do you think Trump's—I mean, can you—but by the way, what would happen if Trump gave a pardon to Lindsey Clancy? Oh, my God. Guess what? The Democrats would win.

53:30That day would be the deciding thing for them to be like, okay. It's not even a question if you did something like that. So, Vinny, where do you have with this? Well, you know exactly where I'm at, and this is one of the biggest things. I think every dating app, every conversation, any time a guy meets a girl, this is your benchmark. this should be the number one thing every app from Hinge to whatever the hell Tinder, like where do you stand in this? And don't get me I get the argument, everybody's arguing about the craziness and the husband by the way, the fact that even Lindsey Clancy's lawyer said stop with the husband thing you guys get the hell out of your minds you're all insane, this is what happened he's even admitting that it was her but I just waited for something for Oprah I wanted to hear what Oprah Winfrey had to say about this whole situation.

54:13So guess what Oprah did, Adam? What'd she do? She had a podcast about the Lindsay Clancy case. Okay. She spoke with nurses. One of the nurses that was with Lindsay for seven years testified the trial along with experts, legal scholars, and women who experienced postpartum psychosis. Oprah starts this off and she goes, you have a lot of courage. And listen to what this lady says about sitting in her son's bedroom and looking at his toys as weapons and her husband standing right next to her. Go ahead and play this clip. It's a lot of courage. A lot of courage. Right before I was hospitalized, what actually made me become hospitalized is the night before I was up all night and I was sitting in one of my son's empty bedrooms because they'd woken up and come to my room.

54:54And I was looking around, I was seeing their toys and their toys, it all just turned to weapons for me. And I saw this movie play out of this truce of thought in my mind of strangling my son and me jumping out the second story window. Oh, isn't that... And when I saw that play out in real life... With Lindsay Clancy. With Lindsay Clancy. I looked at my husband and I said, this is a lady who had the exact same intrusive thoughts as me. Okay, stop it. Guess what? You shouldn't be around your kids ever again. If you're sitting around, and I don't care, what got you to that point, that's what you're thinking of, you're having those intrusive thoughts, we're at the point now where if she went through with it, everybody, especially on the left, would be pro her.

55:32And then, this one drove me even crazier, Pat. This audience starts cheering after this doctor, okay, says that black female child murderers need support too. She's asked, I want us to have the same passion for female child murderers who don't look like Lindsay. This is unbelievable. Go ahead and play it. It is not shameful to talk about your risk factors, which could be depression, bipolar disorder, not having a supportive spouse, limited resources. All of these are little risk factors that when you tick away at them and add a baby sleep deprivation on top can really have you tip over. And the other thing that I would just be remiss to not say is, I hope this never happens again.

56:19We know statistically it really will. But when it does... I want us to have the same passion for people who don't look like Lindsay, who don't have her same access. Listen to the... So basically what she's saying is, hey guys, when a black mother does the same exact thing and tries to kill herself and does all things. Just, hey, you better be cool with her because she's not white. It's driving me crazy. And just to let you guys know, like, Jeanette MacOslin was just, she was accused of strangling her two children, Kai and Ella, inside their Massachusetts home. She then drove 140 miles to her ounce house in Vermont with bloody wounds on her neck.

56:58Weird that she's trying to act like Lindsay. And then according to police, she admitted that she strangled the children, tried to kill herself, saying that she wanted all three of them to go to God, Same thing as freaking Lindsey Clancy. And now her attorney's asking for the murder case to be dismissed. And I'm telling you guys right now, they're successfully killing their own children. They're so good at it. But when it comes to themselves, they can't do it. And I'm going to say this. And a lot of people want to say this, but they can't, Pat, because they're scared. Death penalty, plain and simple.

57:26I don't care if you live stream it. At some point, we have to set a precedent, okay? You murder your innocent freaking children, okay? You're going to get the ultimate sacrifice. And I guarantee you, I guarantee you overnight, all these little copycat murders slash suicides are going to stop because they're going to know that we're going to kill your ass. Just to clarify, the other side are not against the death penalty, but they have the double standards. We live at a time where a peaceful family man, Charlie Kirk, his opinions are so dangerous that he needs to be punished and his punishment is death.

57:57Whereas Lindsey Clancy, she should be protected. She's not dangerous. Of course. They are in favor of death. But for that. For the other side. Yeah, Tom, I think there's two things going on there. They're very disturbing to me. The first is postpartum is real and we need women to get support and help. However, when it gets used by lobbyists and other people that are as this excuse, that's bad. I don't want to talk about that anymore from my I'm with you. I'm a death penalty person, too. I'm right there. But thing I want to talk about, Pat, is the activist juries. We have spent time telling America that we need to change the Supreme Court.

58:29The Supreme Court's wrong. We need to move it to nine. We need to pack the court so they'll do what we say. Well, who's we, damn it? Who's we? And I'll take you back to something. What's very interesting to me, do you know who Carrie Bess is? Karen Bess? Carrie Bess. Carrie Bess was an OJ juror who, a couple years afterwards, they did the documentary. Oh, that old black lady? And she said, man, the OJ verdict was payback for Rodney King. It's like, wait, what? I thought we were seeing did OJ, in fact, kill Ron Goldman and his ex-wife? Nope. It was payback for Carrie Bass. And that was her opinion.

59:14Says it's payback. And now you look at this, you have people going in there and they're not deliberating. They're deliberating on emotion because they believe in the feeling that should lead to the verdict. and that's what you have. When you tell everybody the Supreme Court's wrong and you want to change it, you're telling Americans into their psyche that the Supreme Court is supposed to be there is no other appeal except God. That's at the Supreme Court. That's what it says. We go here. If we can't figure it out, we go to the Supreme Court and we get a decision and we're done because there's nowhere to go but God.

59:50We don't accept that anymore. We want to change the court, pack the court, and when average people with below average opinions, now end up on a jury, suddenly it's their opportunity to invoke feelings and political position, not a fair-minded review of the case. And this guy, God bless you, man. You were Davy Crockett at the Alamo, except you didn't die. You got out to tell us what was going on in there. Well, other people are saying he just couldn't get over the fact that she brutally murdered her kid. Yeah, and Tom, and I agree with you 100%. Good for him. I'm so proud of him, whoever he is.

1:00:25I just hope that they don't come out there and put his name if he doesn't want everything because you know what the left will do to him. Somebody's going to dox him, and God bless him. We've got to make sure that they're – She already exposed him that he's black. And you don't think off camera they ask, so what's he look like? Who is he? Let me tell you who it is. It's really – you don't think those jurors are going to leak the name to somebody? Absolutely. Because all the media wants is a scoop. The media doesn't care about his welfare. The media does not care about his welfare. All they want is him on camera and to get the scoop.

1:00:58They're dogs. Yep, absolutely. And FYI, he hasn't come out yet. No, exactly. Well, would you? I would. Pat, with the weight, what you talked about, they're going to find the one black guy in Boston. He will be out in no time. He'll be out in no time. Okay. I think. I think there's a bigger story here. I try not to get into the details of the Lindsay Clancy thing. It's such a weird, horrible situation. She clearly murdered her kids. She clearly had mental issues. And justice hopefully will prevail. I think the bigger story here is what is going on with the liberal ladies out there, guys? you know and i love the ladies i love my mom i love my grandma i love my girlfriend love the ladies but you know sometimes they call people libtards or sometimes they call people from you know massachusetts mass holes i don't know what's going on with these mass hole libtards but this is indicative this could be any city by the way it could be in minneapolis it could be in san francisco it could be in new york it could be in portland this is the type of situation that when you have nine liberal women on a jury, thank God you got this one common sense black dude that's like, nah, I just, I can't do it.

1:02:11So there's a bigger conversation to be had, but we'll save that for another day. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to go to is Aaron Rodgers. Did you guys see what happened with Aaron Rodgers? No. He went on a podcast. You didn't see what he said? No. So this is even better. If you guys got the Aaron Rodgers clips, two of them, one of them, he's doing a podcast. he gives a detail so he proposes to this girl gets engaged toward the girl from divergent they're about to get married the girl asks for a favor before they get married and erin rogers put her on blast on this podcast let me know if you guys found the clips on okay you guys is that the one because there's two of them one of them is danica patrick play the first one with the girl he was about to get married to in 2021.

1:02:53Go ahead. Then I dated Shailene. And I proposed. And she says yes. Now, she maybe felt like she was forced to make a decision. She could have said no. But not a couple days after that, she tells me, you know, before we get married, I got to go f*** this guy. What? And I'm like, because her story is that I ruined her life and gave her a crazy depression because I left her. But the actuality is she told me that, and then she took off the ring by March, that I proposed in December, took off the ring by March, and we had a couple times where we tried to, you know, get reunited, and nothing ever happened.

1:03:33And there wasn't even a relationship in 22 to break off. She literally told me, I don't want to be with you. After we tried to have some sort of reconciliation in 2021. So I'm like, there's just a lot of narrative. He's talking about Shailene Woodley. You guys know who Shailene Woodley is. Can you pull up who Shailene Woodley is so people know who she is? Shailene Woodley was in Divergent and quite a lot of other movies, but the main one that she made a name for herself is the Divergent series, right? So how do you react to this, Vinny? I'll come to you first as an expert. How do you react to this?

1:04:07Let me explain something to you. If you want to talk about dodging a bullet and her letting you know right off the bat, If you are engaged to a woman and you're about to spend the rest of her life, your life with her, and she says, yeah, just really quick, I got to go down the street and bang this dude before I get. God bless you with that moment for you to go, oh, you're not the one. Are you absolutely out of your mind? Like, what do you. I thought I was. Consider that integrity, though. I know. It's honest. I appreciate her. I don't know about integrity. I appreciate her being honest, but good for Aaron to at least see that and have that moment to be like, because you know what?

1:04:53I guarantee you there's a lot of guys out there, a lot of betas that have been like, oh, babe, go ahead, get it out of your system, as if that's ever going to get out of that person's system. There's absolutely no way. And then down the road, what happens when she goes, hey, listen, I have to go do it again. My bad. That, he dodged a freaking bullet, and I'm proud of him. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, just like the previous story, because these things are public, especially these days, everything becomes big. It's a good test for normal people to check with their partner. What do you think of this woman?

1:05:22And then you know you need to leave that person. And the problem is it's a generational thing as well because, again, to stereotype, a lot of the parents, if they're not there and the whole society is being poisoned, but there will be a backlash because the younger generation, the younger gen alpha, they are kind of already rebelling against their Gen Z and Millennials. They're not really into dating apps. They're not really into like porn. They're not even smoking cigarettes. It's not cool anymore. So again, the future looks brighter. But right now it's a bit of a mess. But it's out there. It's public.

1:05:55So you can check. I've had my dealings with certain types of liberal women in London. The problem is that some of us made a mistake when I was in my 20s. I may have encouraged that bad behavior where in order to be able to survive dating in London, you had to pretend to be liberal and that's not a good thing i do not advise that the guys but then you have to do it and then you end up with these people adam well this reminds me of the movie casino where you got ace rostein robert de niro who's a deranged liberal these days de niro not ace and he's infatuated he loves sharon stone or i think her character's name was ginger in this movie and she was still in love with her druggie pimp boyfriend lester yeah and he's like he's giving her the world yeah you remember that yeah he's like babe ginger i got you you're gonna live with me you're gonna do this and no matter what he would do for her ace she'd go back to lester and she would i think steal and give to this guy it was played by james woods ironically who's like a super conservative like just ironic but if that is i don't know if it's art imitating life or life-intaming art we saw how that movie ended and it ended very ugly for everyone involved when you let your, and I'm going to use like your whole wife, go out and do this.

1:07:11It's only going to be a very ugly situation. And Pat, is there anybody else that is just out there and just getting at everybody that messed with him from ESPN to the media to girls to everybody? This guy is calling everybody out, and I'm so proud of him because they put him through hell. She was trying to say from what he's saying is that she was like it was all his fault, and it's all him, and it's all him. That's the type of attitude you have as a woman or just anybody in general is I got to go have sex before we get married. It's ridiculous. Let me ask you, how public was she about this relationship?

1:07:43I mean, I thought it was – I thought they were – No, no, no. Not public. How public was – what's her name again? Shailene Woodley. Shailene Woodley about issues in the Aaron Rodgers relationship. Oh, see, I don't know. I just know that they were engaged. Because he also talked about Danica Patrick. If you want to play the clip with Danica Patrick, Here's the clip of him talking about when he dated Danica Patrick. Go for it. There was no intimacy. It was nothing. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have many fond memories of his time with ex Danica Patrick. During an appearance on the Not Just Football podcast September 10th, the NFL player, who is currently married to now wife Brittany, reflects in his two-year relationship with a retired NASCAR driver, revealing there was a lack of intimacy between the two.

1:08:25She had just retired. She was depressed and not fun to be around. but I didn't leave her because I was trying to be there and be a good partner. Then it was going a certain direction, obviously. There was no intimacy, it was nothing. Erin then recalls that during this rough time, he was also planning on buying a house alone. Quote, I'm buying a house in Malibu and she goes, would you want to buy it together? And I said, no. And even though they contemplated couples counseling, they inevitably called it quits in July 2020. For Danica's part, she spoke out about their romance in May 2025, alleging the relationship was quote emotionally abusive and that the breakup led to the most pain she's ever experienced.

1:09:06She shared in part on the Sage Steele show because it was sudden it felt like when you live with somebody it's your whole life and because the nature of the relationship was emotionally abusive that wore me down to nothing. She added everything was torn to bits he leaves a trail of blood. Yeah. However later in here. Five stocks to sell. You might be missing the opportunity

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1:11:51Don't say anything about a relationship of who you're with. It's no one's business. However, if you come at me, I'm going to destroy you. Very simple. And that's what Aaron Rodgers is doing. I don't know if Aaron would have said anything about Danica if Danica didn't say anything about Aaron Rodgers. And if you say anything, guess what? You want me to sit on the sidelines and allow you to say what you want to say about me? So I never like these types of things being public and them talking about it. But it's Aaron Rodgers and NFL season got started. And the Rams got destroyed yesterday, apparently, in Australia.

1:12:22And apparently Vinny told me a kangaroo even kicked a field goal. That's how bad things were for them yesterday. So Miles Garrett and all these guys, you're thinking it's going to be dominating. No one scores. And it didn't go that way. So that's our NFL part that we just plugged in for today's podcast. Let me get to the next story. We're talking about NFL and what happened with 9-11. So think about 9-11. Happened in what city? New York City. New York City. Then fast forward to 25 years later. A mayor who's a socialist Islamist who is signing a document here and a pen. At the beginning, nobody thinks anything of it.

1:13:05Mamdani hands the symbolic 9-11 pen to a former al-Qaeda lawyer. You can't – you're just saying that? Sounds like you're – let's hear the details. Let's hear him out a little bit. I wish this was not true. Let's see. Play the clip to first see it, and look how he makes sure that the pen is handed to that lawyer. Go for it. He goes around the commissioner to watch. Look at this. Watch closely. It's very intentional. You pass that. Look at that. Look at that, bro. It's so happy. It's so happy. It's so happy. By the way, can you play it one more time? Look at the girl's face. She knows what's going on.

1:13:46Look at the face she makes. Like, I hope nobody finds out. Look at the girl's face on the right. Look. Look at her face. Immediately look. Wait for her. Wait for her. She didn't even look at him. Did you see that last look? Oh, my God. Yeah. You know who the woman is? Tell her. It's not just a regular girl. It's Jessica Tisch, the NYPD. Commission. Police commissioner. But she, it's almost as if the look is, what the hell are we doing? Handing it to this guy. So, Vinny, can you tell us who the guy is, the Al-Qaeda lawyer? That is Ramzi Qasim. He represents Ahmed al-Darbi. I said it right. An admitted Al-Qaeda operative who pled guilty to war crimes connected to Al-Qaeda plot against commercial ships.

1:14:23Number one. Al-Darbi, who is also, waiting for this, but you didn't know this. the brother-in-law of Khalil Al-Mindar, one of the five men officially identified as the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 on 9-11. Let that sink in. He purposely passes and says, can you pass this to that guy, okay? Don't, if you're out there and you're listening to this and you're like, oh, that's just a coincidence. It's his boy. Shut up with that nonsense, okay? That pen, he hands it to him. It's not a mistake, okay? That was a slap in the face to every single New Yorker that's out there, every freaking veteran, every first responder, everybody that's lost somebody or is dealing with physical stuff that's happening.

1:15:05It's unbelievable, okay? That City Hall says this guy and his team helped draft orders for all the – okay, fine. That explains why he was there and why he was involved. It doesn't explain why Mamdani, specifically Pat, made sure he gave it to him. Okay, that's ridiculous. That disgusts me. Just as an American – Do you think it's on purpose? 1 ,000%. And I know we don't like to say 100 or 1 ,000. It's ridiculous, Pat. Okay? That don't... You really think it's 100 %? I think it's 100%. The fact that... To say what, though? To spit in your face? To spit in your face to let you know, like, Pat, the guy represents terrorists.

1:15:43Mom Donnie hangs out, went into the mosque with the co-conspirator of 9-11. It's like in your face, that whole smiling nonsense, it's all fake. When he gets serious and you get to see the real man behind that fake, fake smile, that's who it is. You don't do that. It's purposeful. It's a spit in the face of all the freaking families and all the people that were involved with 9-11. I still can't go back to 9-11 and believe that you New Yorkers that are out there that are listening, you guys voted this guy in. And shame on you. If you were like, oh, I put up the free stuff and free this and free that, he doesn't give a damn about you.

1:16:21Okay? I know the reason that he's put into place, and it's to destroy this country from within. Do you know who he represented? Do you know the person he represented? What do you mean? Ramzi Khasa? No, he, but who did he represent? Do you know who he represented? Ahmed al-Darbi? Do you know who he is? He's an al-Qaeda operative who pled guilty for war crimes for the plot against commercial ships. And do you know how long he represented him? I have no idea. Nine years, from 2008 to 2017. Okay. It wasn't just one case. No, no, it's not just he represented him from 2008. He has said himself, I have represented Ahmed Al-Darbi since 2008.

1:16:54Al-Darbi pleaded guilty in 2014 for war crimes plotted against commercial shipping. Qasem acknowledged the guilty plea during his sentencing argument. The case involved Al-Qaeda-linked maritime plots, including a 2002 bombing of the French oil tanker MV Lindbergh off Yemen. That attack killed one person and wounded others. Al-Darbi also has attended Al-Qaeda training camp, according to prosecutors. Monkey bars? There's also a striking 9-11 connection. Aldarby's brother-in-law, which is what you just talked about, was one of the five hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which struck the Pentagon.

1:17:28His sister's married to that guy. That's who this guy is. Yeah. Look how sweet he looks. Yeah. Look how sweet he looks. This is the guy. And recently, he also represented, I don't know if this is a recent one that you talked about or not, recently he was the attorney for detained Palestinian activist, Mahmoud Khalil. Khalil, I remember Khalil. Both of them. So he represented him as well. Well, I have some good news. I can top that. So your mayor in New York is hanging out with a lawyer who represented some jihadi. In London, the mayor of London, he himself, when he was a lawyer, represented a jihadi terrorist.

1:18:02But the difference is, the good news here is that in the UK, all those stories come out. Yeah, some people complain. But society, British culture, keep it quiet. And then it continues. It gets worse. Here, the more Mamdani gets exposed, the more he does these sort of things, the American people actually do wake up. I know we're all trying to warn people, but I have faith in this society. That's why I had to move from the U.K. to the United States. Wow. Adam. I mean, listen, you've got to give Mamdani credit. He don't give up. He don't care. I don't give him credit for that. I know what you're saying, but I don't give him credit.

1:18:37Hear me out. Obviously, Tom, I know that you're not speaking sarcasm, but I'm being sarcastic. All I'm hearing is, Mamdani, yada, yada, yada, Al-Qaeda. Whatever the details are in between is almost irrelevant to me. Why is a guy representing Al-Qaeda terrorists in the room with him? That's a beginning question. You talked about this the other day. The number one rule that they had during 9-11, there was one rule. Never forget. You forgot. New York, you totally forgot. 25 years later, if you told me 25 years later, an Islamist communist, We're running the number one city in the world. We had the biggest attack.

1:19:15I'd be like, what are you doing right here? But you've got to give them credit for this one thing. And, again, Tom, brace for impact. It's sarcasm. 100 ,000 survivors of 9-11's families signed a petition and said, please, Mayor Mom Donnie, on this hallowed, sacred ground, do not show up during 9-11. What do you think Mom Donnie did? Of course he's there. He's there right now. Of course he's there. He's there right now. So when I say Mom Donnie doesn't give up, he literally doesn't care what you think. And he is trolling everybody. It's almost shocking to me. Islam is first, New York second, America last.

1:19:53Yeah, and we can't, and Pat. Yeah, go ahead, Tom. It just disgusts me at the deepest level. I've talked about it before. You know, today I remember Neely Heffernan, the twin sister of Neel Heffernan, who was my brother's buddy. My brother and him were nuts, and she used to drive them places because they were both little nuts as teenagers, and the sister was so much better. And so we all have a 9-11 story. That's mine. She got on the plane in Boston and handed her newborn to her husband and never came home. And that's the backdrop that I feel, and I still feel it today. And when I see things like this, you know, I get real passionate about it.

1:20:41But it reminds me of one thing. If you have a short memory, you're going to get a bad outcome. And you know who else said that, Tom? Short memory? President Bush. George Bush. He gave a talk. Can you please play this clip? Look what he said here. Watch this clip. Go for it. This is on Wednesday, a couple days ago. You know, our nation occasionally goes to isolationist periods where the attitude is we've got too many problems at home, therefore who cares what happens overseas, which really means to me they just don't pay attention to the lesson of 9-11 because what happens overseas matter to our national security at home.

1:21:15and yes I'm afraid so and to the extent that people are struggling against tyranny it makes sense we don't have to send troops we ought at least stand with them and stand by beside them because this is what we went through 250 years ago and again it's it's it's a belief that everybody wants to be free and we saw that in Afghanistan people say well they don't want to be free they've been you know they don't know the difference of course they know the difference young girls going to school for the first time in their lives knew the difference women becoming doctors and professors know the difference between a free society and a tyrannical society and sadly those women who began to realize their full potential no longer have a chance to realize their full potential.

1:22:13Yeah, I mean, that's a very powerful statement by him to say, you know, sometimes when you're not in it or you forget, you forget what can happen to you. That's the part where you have to stay vigilant. You have to stay aware. You have to be paying attention. All it takes is one time you go to a restaurant and you get too casual and you look down and something could go down. All it takes is sometimes you're driving, you stay on your phone, one second, too long, boom, car accident. That's all it takes. It's not a long time. So for us, we have to be very aware of what's going on right now in America, especially in yesterday I had John Rocker on.

1:22:50I don't know if you guys remember John Rocker or not, the pitcher for the Braves, who would give the middle finger to New York. And we did a long time. He hated the Mets. He hated them. He said, I would never play for New York. Why would anybody want to go on the seventh train where the guy sitting next to you is on heroin and a girl's got four kids at 20 years old and another guy that doesn't speak any English. He's just kind of giving this message, right? And he went through the trouble that he went through. But I said, so what do you think about what happened with New York? He said, well, you better call me Nostradamus because what I said happened.

1:23:19I said, did you ever think New York wasn't going to get to this point with an Islamist, you know, socialist? He says, that I never thought was going to happen. This is coming from, by the way, this guy, on any list, they put him as the 10 most hated athletes of all time because the comments said he's like the first baseball player that got canceled. He was not PC at all. Not PC at all. By the way, I asked him questions about the GU steroids. He says, from day one, I used steroids, and trust me, everybody else. Some of the stuff that he talked about, I've never heard him talk about. It was a very interesting thing.

1:23:51But to see the New York City, and for Americans who kind of look away and say, well, you know, I don't think it's going to come to my city. I don't think it's going to come to my city. I don't think it's going to come to my city. It's coming to a city near you unless if you stay aware. That's how simple it is, Vinny. And just a reminder, especially being a New Yorker, my uncle was downtown in Manhattan while 9-11 happened. I was in the United States Air Force. I want people to understand that day New Yorkers that were above where the planes hit had to make the decision, okay, if they didn't come down with the implosion, either I'm going to burn to death or I have to jump to my death, okay?

1:24:30That happened. And so now you have the mayor, okay, giving the ceremonial pen of that day and what Americans had to go through, New Yorkers go through, to the freaking terrorist lawyer. It's 1 ,000 % intentional because he knows on that stage everybody's watching. So when you do this, people are going to say, who the hell is that guy? And that's the mayor of New York in your face saying that's what's up, okay? And I'm disgusted by it. It boggles my mind, and the New Yorkers are fine with it. Besides the 100 ,000, Adam, as a New Yorker, I wouldn't let them vote. I hope they're waking up right now and to realize you voted for free, and you've given up your city with what's about to happen.

1:25:14And I hope they're waking up to it. The New Yorkers, just enough of them, 50.1 % is all it took, and just enough of them voted for free in the hands of a deceiver. We don't need gun control. We need vote control. Because a vote in the hand of an idiot will kill more people than the gun in the hand of an evil genius. But again, to quickly defend the real New Yorkers, it's not actually their fault. When establishments in New York over the years pushed actual New Yorkers out of the city and the state, the majority of people who voted for Mandani were not even New Yorkers. They were outsiders who came in.

1:25:48So they're all like new people. So the real New Yorkers, and it's still actually quite an impressive result. I acknowledge what you just said. They still didn't manage to get like 60%, 70%. And I blame the Democrats like the Cuomos and the Adams and all these people. They suck so bad at their job that their only other option was the three guys. Well, look who you got. Look who you got. The guy who's handing a pen to the lawyer for Ahmed Al-Haboum and friends. And you sit there blithely on the most hallowed of anniversaries. What did Reagan famously say? That we're only one generation away from losing our freedom?

1:26:21Didn't he say that? He did. To me, there's one singular group that I would love to understand this, and that is the under 25 who was not even born during 9-11 that really doesn't remember. I remember my grandfather, who fought in World War II, telling me about D-Day. He's like, you don't understand what happened that day. And my grandfather was basically out fighting in Japan after that. And he told me these stories. and I was like wow but it's so long ago D-Day 9-11 was our D-Day like we went through it I remember exactly where I was I was in college I remember I was in my house I remember talking to my roommates at the time like what is going I remember that exactly young people now and when we see the Mamdani's of the world with the Hassan Piker's of the world who is out there campaigning together, basically saying America deserved 9-11, it makes you wonder what is going on.

1:27:17And this is why we need to educate the young people and make sure they do not become this communist Islamist fanboys or fangirls and actually appreciate America. That's the biggest concern for me. Yeah, and by the way, one of the things about President Bush that I'd like to ask is how much his thoughts has changed when he said this back in 2001 right after 9-11. And Tusi, I want to come to you about this because you were born in Iran in 1988. And I want to know for yourself, your religious experience from being around them and your family. You're Iranian yourself, right? So if you want to play this clip, go for it.

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1:30:48Do you agree with them? So I'm not just saying this as a Christian myself, but this is so naive that even when somebody like President Bush at the time, who was considered as, oh, right wing, he's going to bomb everywhere and he's going to start wars. People in the West, especially the elites in the establishment, are so naive, and they still are, that that's the wrong sentencing. So the way you phrase it, you should not go and say, okay, well, let's just find every type of Muslim and like basically go after them. No, it's not that. But the idea, you need to challenge the idea of Islam. So you can't say Islam is peace.

1:31:20You can say, oh, a lot of Muslims, they're fine, they're not terrorists. That's good. But you can't say the actual idea. It's like saying Marxism. Marxism is actually fine. It was Stalin, that was the problem. Islam is the problem. The idea, the ideology is the problem. You need to challenge it. And Imam Tawidi, who was actually Iranian, then moved to Australia, I think he's in Canada now, he's still kind of a Shia cleric, but he stayed that on purpose, because his fight is, he says, we can't reform Islam, but you can reform Muslims. And that should be the fight. And they haven't learned. It's the absolute insanity that this is allowing to happen.

1:31:53When Iran happened in 1979 with the help of the left and everything else that happened with that revolution. And when I spent my time in the UK, I spent years trying to spread the message, do not turn Britain into another Iran. They did it, I left. Now I'm here, going to repeat the same thing. Although I had the same time. I'm also saying do not turn America into another Europe. The European socialism and, of course, the Middle Eastern Islam. What's your experience been? Were you born a Muslim? No, so my family weren't religious at all, and we had different groups like Zoroastrians and Christians and all that, but we were just secular.

1:32:27I then became more of a Christian as I grew up. But, yeah, it was interesting, because obviously I was just after the what I call paramilitary coup of 79, and as I was born, the war between Iran and Iraq also ended. So I ended it. I take credit for that literally the next day. But it was kind of like hardwired because obviously you were a child as well when you left. But towards the 90s, when we were growing up in school, it was so automatic that, you know, it's like indirectly your parents will tell you, okay, if you go to school, you're going to get a lot of propaganda, just ignore it. But it becomes so normal that the Iranian culture adapt to things.

1:33:09So they found ways to just survive and they didn't even consider it. It's more visible in the West when it takes over. Whereas there, they're like, okay, it's just them versus us. We're just going to do our thing. We're going to have our own underground secret clubs and parties and all that as long as we leave them alone. But again, there's always a line. There's always that boundary. What are you at right now with Iran? What are you thinking is going to happen with Iran now with the war going back and forth? What are you at with that? Well, it's been up and down quite a lot. And one of the interesting things is that the current, what I call the U.S.

1:33:45military operation, rather than the actual action by the U.S. Navy, is more effective than dropping a few bombs when a bunch of terrorists are going to hide underground bunkers. And it's relatively less controversial, relatively, even for the American voters, compared to dropping bombs, because it's more visible. They're like, oh, the war's still ongoing, the oil's going up, we don't like it. but every president since Carter when he made that mess, when they get into the White House at some point there's a conversation with the new president what do we do about this Iran thing and they're always clearly being told the same things and you made a great video a couple of years ago explaining why thinking that you're going to go and start a war with Iran and the Islamic Republic is going to be easy it's a big land, it's a crazy land the infrastructure they have, the system they have but every president clearly has been told okay so bombing is not going to help, war bad precedent especially with Iraq What do we do?

1:34:35Okay, sanctions. Fine. And they all end up doing the same thing, and some of them went too far the other way. Obama and Biden saving the region by giving them money. Trump decided to do this gamble thing. And one credit I give to the White House, as a matter of fact a lot of Americans are right now frustrated, is that he decided to go, okay, we're going to have a couple of plans. Let's go try it. They did the June 2025. Okay, they're still crazy. Let's go do the 28th of February this year. And then they continue the airstrikes, then they realize that plan is not really working anymore because they're just hiding.

1:35:08We're just growing in them buildings for no reason. And the U.S. government, the current administration, instead of giving up, because it's even more embarrassing at this point to just withdraw, they decide to double down, but not just dropping the bombs. They keep changing strategy and tactics. So I give credit to them. It's not an easy situation. But they are. They keep trying to change it. And there's all these talks about, you know, after midterms, the war's going to end. There's a lot of speculation that could mean, some people say that means November is going to be bombed. Or some people say maybe they've got some deep plan with CIA, I don't know, dropping weapons in October.

1:35:40So that by the time election comes over, it's all gamble. But give credit to President Trump. He's trying different tactics. It's not easy. Do you still have family there? Yeah, my dad is still stuck in Tehran. Yeah, he was, obviously, they took his passport away. He can't leave. And I'm banned from going because when I was young, in my 20s, I was in politics. I was a member of the Conservative Party in Britain. They sent a letter to my dad saying, we've discovered your son is now an MI6 Tory agent. Because if you're Tory, you're clearly MI6. And I was like, okay, I'm banned. I wasn't planning to go back anyway.

1:36:17But he used to come and visit when I was a kid. He used to come and visit us in London as a tourist. You haven't seen him for a long time. Yeah, over 20 years. You haven't seen your dad over 20 years? Yeah, it's been tough. Yeah, it's been quite a long time. Can you guys communicate still? Yeah, it's on WhatsApp. So it's the best way, yeah. Wow. By the way, what do you think about Reza Pallavi today? What do you think about his prospects? Yeah, so there's also been a lot of work behind the scenes for that side. I think his team changed over the years as well. Many, many times. Yeah, and then there's been some controversies, obviously, in the recent year or so.

1:36:47But the thing is, he has no choice because he's the symbol for the people in Iran. So whether you can criticize the management or criticize, oh, we should do this and all that. But people are still chanting his name. And so that's more burden on him. That's more pressure on him. So a lot of people expect him to call for the uprising now at some point. But I can also see that because he's not a military general. So he's like, okay, well, what if I call it and they get killed again? But at some point, there needs to be some action. And I think if the environment gets prepared and is happening now, unless something changes with the blockade and everything else, the economy is collapsed.

1:37:22The currency doesn't exist. It's so bad that the government in Iran are going towards cryptocurrency suddenly. They're pro-Bitcoin. The fuel crisis and everything else. The implosion is about to happen anyway, and it will be time for leadership. Even a voice, just to stand up and say, maybe it's time. What can you tell to the audience? Because I left in 89, November 28th. So you're literally, after I left, you're there. What is the IRGC like in Iran? How do they treat their people? How do they view the populace? So I'm actually surprised over the last five, ten years, five years, they kind of lost control a little bit after the 2022 protests with the hijab laws and all that.

1:38:05In the north of Tehran, where the kind of the more rich people are, a lot of women, younger girls just walk around almost with like no headscarves. For me, because when I was there, the morality police were on top of it. And I was like, wow, that's still a surprise. Although it's kind of isolated in the north. They don't really go there. They have this massive hatred of the people in Iran. They don't see themselves as Iranian. And that's why people in Iran call them foreign occupiers or Arab occupiers. Some of them are actually born in Iraq, some of the leadership, but they are technically Iranian, but they are so ideologically Islam first that people don't see them as Iranian.

1:38:42There's this weird thing where they embed themselves in society so well, They created an ingenious system. And again, it's all because of Ruhullah Khomeini, the first one who took over. He studied a lot about Stalin, about the French Revolution as well. They realized you can't just be a dictator. You have to create checks and balances for a dictatorship. So many branches that you have the normal armed forces, military. Then you've got the IRJC military, which is parallel, but they're more in charge. and that's why people got excited 28th of February when Khamenei got barbecued like oh there we go let's go and celebrate but you can't just kill one dictator you need to destroy the infrastructure the actual the results drain them and then you're going to have to have again leadership on the ground so you at this point the only option will be somebody in elements of the regular army to take temporary control until, you know, if the people want crown prince to return or whatever happens next, somebody needs to be on the ground.

1:39:46You can't have the American troops on the ground because Iran is a big country. What are you going to do? You're going to drop a few soldiers in the middle of Tehran? That's not enough. They are everywhere and they're on the ground. So you were talking about the missiles and drones earlier on about the tiny drones. They don't even have ballistic missile launchers. They've all been destroyed. They have holes on the ground because from the missile cities, they launched missiles from there. So Americans keep trying to destroy those the entrances obviously but uh dropping bombs is not enough the the current operation is the best way uh but again let's just see how long it takes yeah i mean there's a concern of what's going to happen with that i want to wrap up with the story vinnie for you as well because i know you wanted to talk about this with in talarico i'm going to go to that as well tom is bb benjamin netanyahu faces storm uh over report he ignored warning ahead of October 7 attacks.

1:40:39And by the way, this is an NBC news story. This is not a blogger or podcaster that somebody just wrote this. Let me read this to you, Naveenia. I'm going to come to you. It dropped like a political bombshell into next month's parliamentary election. A herits report that Israeli Prime Minister Bibi had a warning about the October 7, 2023 attacks and chose not to alert senior officials. The expose said UAE President Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Nayhan told Bibi that Hamas leaders in Gaza were planning a major operation against Israel that could destabilize the entire region and that Netanyahu reached with relative calm.

1:41:13Bibi often called the report false, saying that any relevant information was passed through intelligence channels. In Haaretz's report, he threatened to sue for libel. This is arrogance and a breach of trust that Israeli citizens placed in him and his government. The four main opposition parties said the former military commander, who is Netanyahu's main rival, in the October 27 election wrote, he is unfit former Prime Minister Naftali, and Netanyahu cannot serve in his position for even more than one minute. So, I mean, there's a lot of things there, Vinny. What do you have with that? Well, I mean, if it's true, and again, this is all reporting, and I understand that this is the first election since October 7th happened, and it was stopped because of October 7th.

1:41:57Now, on October 27th, this is going to be coming back. But if this is true, I mean, Pat, 10 days before, the worst attack that's happened to them since the Holocaust, since Jews have had this attack. 45-minute call. The guy's warning you this is happening. It's coming. And you do nothing about it. And then if you remember, New York Times reported in November 2023, Israel had Hamas's 40-page Jericho wall plan. It said everything to the T what was going to happen. It described rocket drones, knocking out border surveillance, breaching the Gaza border, paragliders, everything and nothing happened and then in July 2023 a female analyst from Israel's unit 8200 warned this is the third one Hamas was training in ways that matched the Jericho wall plan and her concerns warned that if you dismiss this because they they they dismissed this because they thought Hamas didn't have the capability so Israeli intelligence has the blueprint and then you see Hamas rehearsing it and you guys do nothing about it and let's not forget Charlie Kirk God rest his soul sat across from you on this podcast and said bb and the israeli it's it's almost unfathomable it's unbelievable that they let it happen and they didn't know about it and he said he goes guys the size of israel he was just there uh is the size of new jersey and you know the security everybody has an m16 everybody is the idf adam was just there everybody got guns hot and and i don't want to hear it's just weird that the excuse is yeah well they got us for six hours it happened and nobody knew, Pat, and it's not a far-fetched thing.

1:43:32I'm not blaming them or saying that they did anything, but this type of intelligence failure, it's crazy. It's insane, and because of that day, look what happened. I just feel, and a lot of people are talking that the opposition, and Adam, I know you have the information of who it is. That guy is gaining momentum, Pat, and people are saying that a lot of people in Israel feel like they blamed Bibi for October 7th. That's the word from the people and that there was protest that day on the October 7th that they wanted Bibi out. And then this story comes out. But there's one thing to mention, though, because I spoke to some people from Israel and they said after October 7th that we were taking Hezbollah more seriously than Hamas.

1:44:15One important thing here is that for us as outsiders, obviously, we're just seeing the actual report and it's Israel and the Israeli government. And there is a, well, there's an election coming up. So this is in the interest of the opposition. So the people who are spreading this is the left-wing newspapers and the opposition, including Naftali Bennett, who are actually like. These guys were also receiving the same warning five years before because the same Hamas were already preparing, and even the left-wing, Lepid and all the others, were still saying Hezbollah is more of a threat than Hamas.

1:44:47So it's the fault of both sides, all of them. I agree. And you're still right to question Bibi's government's motives for example, for a lot of things that happens. Like if there's a court coming, maybe I should change the topic by doing some military operation somewhere. But the other side would have done the exact same thing. That's the problem. The failure from both sides. The left and the right. The failure of left on how they would have reacted to it. The speed of it? The speed of it. That's a different conversation. Absolutely. The conversation here is the speed. By the way, we had Charlie on.

1:45:21October 7th happens. Five days later, Charlie was on a podcast. If you want to play this, I don't want to play the whole thing, but just play a first minute of it. Go for it. Guys not know this was taking place. So I've been to Israel many times. The whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier, right? The whole country is surveilled. The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war.

1:45:55It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu, where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets. That's all gone, Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. I'm not willing to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here. But I think some questions need to be asked.

1:46:28Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the size of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes. Six hours. They're live streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say, stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is. And you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and kibbutzes and schools and buy reports six hours. Let's say it's three hours. Buy stocks to sell before the end of the week. You might be missing the opportunity to hear.

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1:49:54All these people, Naftali Bennett, Gaddy Eisenkot, all these people were in power as well. So you have to understand one thing, whether you're a pro-Israel guy, anti-Israel guy, understand this. Bibi is the Trump of Israel. So if you're used to Trump getting all the attacks here by the mainstream media and by the left, just imagine what Bibi's dealing with. And when I say Bibi has doubled Trump, I literally mean it. Because Trump has won at least two elections, possibly three. Bibi has won six. So imagine, he's the longest serving prime minister in the world today in Israeli history. So the amount of attacks this guy's dealing with has been unsurmounted.

1:50:34And right now he's fighting for his political life, and he may lose. Right now this guy, Gadi Eisenkot, who was an IDF general, he's actually favored right now. and his son was actually lost during October 7th. I'll say this one other thing. October 7th is our 9-11, and it's just kind of like coalescing at the exact same time. You have to understand just logistically, geographically, I went to the area. It took me two and a half hours on a bus on a Tuesday afternoon where there was no traffic. It's going to take hours to get where this was. Understand this. 9-11, it happened in the center of New York City.

1:51:14where this happened would be like somewhere out there in Long Island. It's going to take you hours to get there. So we're here in Miami, South Florida. It'd be like it's happening in the Everglades. It's not close. So that's the biggest difference. And you also said one more thing, my last point. They were way, and I interviewed and spoke to countless people. They were way more concerned with Hezbollah from Lebanon in the north than they were with Hamas. They basically said there's a real army in Lebanon with Hezbollah, with real backing from the IRGC. They basically were like these goat effers with sandals in Hamas and Gaza.

1:51:53We're not worried about them. But guess what? They got caught slipping. That's what happened. And to finish on that, to address what Charlie Kirk asked, the answer is relatively you can answer it in terms of was it a standing order? A stand down order. A stand down order. Again, the politics in Israel is so vicious during the election times. the left and right and the media. And it's a small country and everybody's IDF. I can assure you, in order to bring down Netanyahu, somebody with intel would have come to leak the actual stand-down order. Somebody would have had, one of the generals, someone would have said, actually, at least with that conspiracy, the stand-down order.

1:52:32They sent so many troops to the north, even on that day when it was happening, because missiles were coming from all sides. Because Yahya Simba made the announcement, yes, we've entered because we are now waiting for our brothers from the west, from the east, from the north, everyone to come. So everyone's panicking, but it still needs to be questioned, the scrutiny of it. It's still a bit of a mess. But, yeah, down there in the south, it's still a desert until you get to the border with Gaza. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay, great. So last but not least, Tom, Tallarico. Do we want to talk about Charlie at all?

1:53:00Let me go into the story, Adam. And so page number eight on Tallarico. So, Tom, is this addendum we're talking about Tallarico? This is the part that Tom broke down about what's going on with Tallarico. Tallarico says he missed the mark as he backtracks on controversial woke statements. So, Tom, can you do me a favor? What has changed in the last week or two that's getting Tallarico to sound more sensible and coming more to the center? Polling. All the polls going through 727 have Tallarico 5, 4, even 6. 9.8 to 9.9, an insider advantage, which is, I would give it a B. You know, it's certainly, it's a questionable poll, like many polls are.

1:53:45All of a sudden, it comes down, he's only one up on Paxson. And in the entire month of August, there, I counted seven different unique articles coming from liberal publications, including the Austin Statesman, which is the Austin newspaper, Pat, that were saying Tallarico has a problem with the black voters, and it is around LGBTQ and transgenderism. He has a problem with it. And then the other articles come out, oh, no, no, he's getting a majority of black votes. Yeah, well, let me tell you, 55-45 on the black vote for Tallarico is an L, because that means he doesn't have enough of them to win because the independence.

1:54:27So the poll comes out, Pat. There is your playing field. Polls five to six points, suddenly one point on a poll, and people talking about he's got a problem with the black boat. Then he comes out and says, yeah, I think my statement was overly broad. You know, I'm not in favor of banning. I am. I'm in favor of banning gender surgery for minors and oppose transgender identifying men. This is the same guy that says, you know, I love transgenders. When I think about this, I think about transgenders. That's the same guy. And God is non-binary. So all of a sudden, he's shifting. So let me tell you what's happening now.

1:55:08He was way out there on the other side of DSA. And he thought that he was safe to be there. And he thought that with John Cornyn getting beat by Ken Paxson, Ken Paskin being, oh, not another white guy. Here's a middle-aged white guy, career politician in Texas. This is going to be our chance. We're going to get a Senate seat out of it. This thing isn't over, but it's completely changed because Tallarico is showing himself to be completely two-faced. And it's the polls and it's the moderate voters and the black vote all in the last 30 days and the poll in the last week that's gone wham. And all of a sudden he's on Fox.

1:55:46Maybe I misspoke. Yeah, are you at this point thinking Paxton's going to win? Paxton's got work to do, but they're working really hard. Tallarico has received$68 million in total campaign raises. Paxton, since the primary, has raised nine. And Paxton's one point behind. I think Texas is going to wake up, he's going to win this, but Paxton can't take traditional red Texas and turnout for granted. He's got to work his ass off and he needs to start working now. because he's being outspent and he's getting national dollars that are flowing into Tallarico. This is massive for him. The same way. Oh, my gosh.

1:56:25It's the same playbook. They thought that they could get House of Representative Texas 24. Kenny Marchant was retiring, and a woman who was the mayor of one of the cities in and around Dallas, Here she is, Irving's mayor, Beth Van Dyne, who ran in Texas 24, outspent by Nancy Pelosi and a Hispanic woman, crazy liberal, that was dropped into Texas. She barely had residency requirement when she ran. Beth beat her and Beth has stayed there. But that shows you that Texas will wake up, but it also shows you what the Dems are willing to do to get Texas. Well, also, look, Texas should be red. I think we all know that about Texas.

1:57:10But I don't know if you saw this. Trump, the MAGA PAC, they typically don't give money to Texas. They give$10 million or something. They give$10 million to Ken Paxton to beat Tallarico. $5 million to be spent on TV ads. Another$5 million on just attack ads. Playing what Tallarico says about God being trans or non-binary. And eating steak with gloves. And I said this before. In Texas, you have two choices right now. you're going to vote for a cowboy ken paxton or a little boy named howdy doody james tallarico and it's 50 50 at this point to me if this is what texas is becoming just go ahead and secede and become your own state texas that's crazy that's a sad reality because back in the day not even that long ago even 10 15 years ago a liberal you know blue candidate could win theoretically Texas or some other places but only if they are to the right of the Democrats like JFK sort of type.

1:58:11They had to pretend to be still more conservative. The reason they can be arrogant like this is because they're getting the cities. The cities are falling. Even the big cities in Texas, Austin, that wasn't the case before. Yes, people always used to say obviously the people outside cities are more conservative and are more independent. Cities are more outgoing and more liberal but it was still more intellectual. Even Seattle back in the 90s or 80s, it was still a fight between blue and red. But now, Republican. This comes back to the whole border situation. When you have 10 million people come to the border, not just during Biden, but years and years prior.

1:58:45And you basically have a lot of South Americans who are used to socialism and free things all of a sudden become citizens or voting, whatever. Now you got Tala Frico potentially as your senator. You're exactly correct. Once upon a time, there was a woman named Ann Richards was the governor of Texas. She would today look like a moderate leaning a little right, Pat. But she was that, the old school Democrat. And George Bush showed up in 1994 and kicked her butt from Dallas to Houston and back again when the real conservative Texas realized it. But remember who he destroyed. He destroyed someone back in those days that would have been a centrist from the Democrats.

1:59:27So it shows you where Texas has gone is that when the cities get invaded and made purple, primarily from California coming to Austin, you're exactly right what you're saying about the cities. If you look at Calci right now, if you look at Calci right there, look what you'll notice on what's happened with Texas Senate winner. Red was like, oh, there's no way in the world anyone's going to do anything. And this is an$11.6 million number we're talking about. There's a lot of votes in here. There's a lot of votes here. And look where it's at today. Can you come to exactly where it's at today? Exactly where – Tallarico was 50-50 but a slight lead.

2:00:03He's got a slight lead over Paxton. I think this thing is going to go down to the wire. Yeah. And, you know, this tells us a story here. Can I make an assessment on this? Because you lived in Texas. So – and you obviously lived in Texas. And I had one almost a year in Addison. We'll give it to you. The Republicans, let's call them out. They're not running great candidates. Like this guy, yes, I'd rather have a conservative Texan, not DSA member as my representative or as my senator, yes. But let's just at least acknowledge what's happening. The DSA is running young, vibrant, weird, woke candidates against old, stale, male, pale, stale people in Texas or even in Maine you got what's the lady in Maine that keeps the – The one that signed abortions up to – No, no, no.

2:00:55Who's been the senator in Maine forever? What's her name? You know who I'm talking about. Anyway, they're running these crazy candidates. Susan Collins. You're running all these old, stale Republicans. There needs to be a fresh batch of young, vibrant, conservative Republicans. Come out there and whip them up. I think that's very good feedback on doing something like that. By the way, before we wrap up, the one-year, I cannot believe the one-year anniversary was Charlie Kirk was just, what, a couple days ago? Yesterday. At the vault, we played a video, a five-minute video, dedicating to Charlie.

2:01:31And I can't, it was amazing seeing the reaction of people, of how everybody got up. And if you just looked at Twitter, you said, everybody telling their own Charlie Kirk story. Anthony asked me a question. He says, what's your favorite Charlie Kirk story? And I told him a couple of them. you know, of him, us having lunch and, you know, 2023, him being one of the speakers. He was speaking at the event at PHP convention that Khabib was speaking at and Will Gadara was speaking at from 11 Madison. And he got up and he did his thing, he sold America. When he sells America, nobody did it better than he did.

2:02:03May he rest in peace. We're always, and I tell you, always thinking about this man who could have been only 31 years old, but he was the one that was holding the Republican Party together, as crazy as it sounds. People twice his age were calling him for advice, and this is a 31-year-old man who had the wisdom of a 75, 80-year-old. Every day this man is missed. Every day this man is missed, and I think his legacy is going to continue for many, many years to come. So with that being said, gang, with everybody, great spending time with you all, Tusi. We're phenomenal. Glad to have you here. Looking forward to having you on many, many more times.

2:02:41if you don't follow 2C stuff you can easily go find his channel out there he's everywhere T-O-U-S-I 1S T-O-U-S-I 2C I know he's loved because the people that message me non-stop telling me we're so excited that he's going to be on hopefully you guys will do many more these guys got a few million subscribers go subscribe to his content with that being said have a great weekend we will do this again next week God bless everybody bye bye bye

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