Democrats Come After Musk & Zuck Thinks About Leaving California | PBD Podcast Ep. 878

0:01Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so pissed, I could taste sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one-on-one? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

0:26All right, so listen, some friendly advice to you. If you say you've never married your brother, which you shouldn't have. No. But let's just say if they're interviewing you and saying, rumor has it that you married your brother, you should never say, not to my knowledge. So I'm just telling you, like, not to my knowledge. After FBI is coming to investigate, they're going through your trash, you know they found stuff, and you're trying to raise$5,$10, and all you can say is, not to my knowledge. Vinny, did you marry your sister? Not to my knowledge. Who says something like that? Did you shoot everybody at the supermarket?

1:01Not to my knowledge. To the rest of my knowledge. So first of all, fire your attorney. Okay? But that's one of the stories, as crazy as it sounds, that we're going to talk about today. The other story is, you know, a Vivek ad that came up about Amy Act and his opponent, which has a lot of people confused of what happened because Amy Acton's mother came out and says, you don't know my daughter, all this other stuff. And then the story comes out that at nine years old, Amy Acton's biological mother marries another guy and sexually and physically abused Amy at nine years old to the point where she, the mother, lost custody.

1:40And then Vivek puts out this ad, and it's just, there's a lot of things to be said about it. We'll talk about it today. And by the way, the best way to measure if it was a good add or not is data. Very simple. And Tom's going to show you the one data. Not what anybody is saying on the Republican side, on the Democratic side. Oh, my God, you guys got to just get behind him and all. Forget about what we say or anybody says. Study the data on how the market reacts. We'll show that to you. By the way, 22 million people have already voted. Highest turnout ever for midterms. We've never had this kind of a turnout.

2:13And you know when it's earned a turnout, it's not Republicans. Republicans come late because they got jobs. But Democrats, they have a lot of early turnout that came out. And some people are worried. You know what the biggest plus minus in an early turnout is, of course, a lot of Democrats and also non-affiliated voters, specifically in the African-American segment, that have come out aggressively voting early. So we'll see what that – if the data reveals itself, Tom, it's not going to be a good look for Republicans. That's what a lot of – A lot of angry independents voting. Exactly. Exactly. Next one is we have to talk about three-man folks.

2:48I mean, this is just weird stuff. You have this California man who said the ice killed his wife. Kidnapped his wife and killed his wife. And then later on when they investigate, the California man killed his wife. Then we have the second story, which is the Virginia man. This man at 64, 65 years old, he was so sick and tired of his wife talking while he was watching football that he duct taped his wife to a chair just so he can watch football for 30 minutes. In the basement. Some are calling this man a hero. Some are saying he's a villain. Who knows? I mean, it's all in the eye to beholder. We have to find out what people are going to say about it.

3:23And then we have the Florida cop. This may be the craziest one you're ever going to hear today. You ready for this? This Florida cop goes to a house, finds a person dead in the house. So instead of reporting it, this cop, not a regular Florida man, And Florida cop finds out the man is dead. He decides to take over the house, pays the man's bill, doesn't report that the man is dead, and even renovates the place for years while he stays as a cop. Crazy. So who's the craziest story? Is it the California? Is it the Virginia? Is it the Florida? Who the hell knows? But we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it.

4:02And then we have another story of a body cam. Devastating, tragic story in Mississippi. a one-year-old boy gets shot. Mother was almost like protecting herself from the kid. Terrible story. Zuckerberg is being told he's going to leave California because of 5 % well tax, which probably is going to be 8 % to 10 % for him. And so Facebook worries about losing Zuck to leave because they're working on all these AI projects. They offer him an eight-year position to stay there, plus take$20 billion of cash off the table and have the control of the shares. So Zuck allegedly, according to a Wall Street Journal story, is staying in California.

4:36And on top of that, Ro Khanna used this as a story to tell people that billionaires are willing to stay in California. It is so amazing, and they're still willing to pay the well tax. It's a phenomenal marketing campaign for a person like Ro Khanna. But we're going to get into the story. Yesterday I had Frances Haugen from the movie The Social Reckoning, the movie that just came out. She was a whistleblower that ended up costing Facebook to go through all these lawsuits. 47 states sued Zuck, and they had to pay, I think, two days ago,$25 billion just to New Mexico. What happened? We'll cover that story.

5:08And then this next story is a little bit emotional, but I think some people are going to be sentimental about this. Mummies have been removed from an exhibition over lack of consent. What? Yeah, mummies. Because they never agreed they would be willing to be at this exhibition because they didn't consent to it, Vinny. And I know you're having a hard time with this one, but I'll give you a minute. But a story that Vinny loves, because Vinny's favorite player in the world is LeBron James. Yep. LeBron James, a couple days ago, they were playing. By the way, shout out to them yesterday. They had the biggest comeback.

5:39LeBron's greatest comeback ever of coming back. And they beat Cleveland. It was actually a good victory for them. But two days ago, national anthem. He doesn't stand up. He's practicing his golf swing. And then afterwards, when they ask him, did you hear what Trump said about you? You have to hear what he had to say. And then in the WNBA finals. Dude, you're in the finals. Back-to-back game. Guess what the starting lineup does? They walk off the field, off the court. They play the national anthem. You know who played the national anthem? Alanis Morissette, I think that's her name, right? She's like, oh, my God, the player's leaving.

6:07She sang the national anthem. Then they came back in. Shouldn't there be a fine for this? I absolutely think, yeah. You're making the money. What the hell are you doing if you did this in any other job? But we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Some people see these guys as heroes. New York, you know when you go to New York with your girl, your wife, and it's like, hey, we're going to Honeymoor. We're spending time there. And, Tom, have you ever gone on the carriages, the horses, in New York with your wife? Have you guys ever done that with a girl of yours? We actually did. Instead, we took the girls on them when they were younger.

6:35Beautiful. Tradition. It's like a New York tradition. Effective June 28th. You can never do that again because Mamdani is passing a law that's going to get rid of that in Central Park. So, folks, if you've never done it, you better hurry up. By June 28th, it's going to be gone. The union with the horses is soon and saying, what the hell are you guys thinking? Because there was an incident this summer where tourists came, got killed with the horses, and they're saying this is not good. We're cutting it. So we'll talk about that. But Elon Musk got threats from Keira Swisher, Clinton, and others saying, hey, we're coming for you.

7:03And Elon said, if you do, you have to see how we responded to it, like a gangster, if you do, I'm going to find you. Kind of like the girl from the movie Wedding Crashers. I'll find you. Elon said he will find you, and he will come after you. No matter how much you spray on that wound on Vince Vaughn's knee, I'm going to come get you. It was kind of a scene. United Airlines CEO says, I think wealth tax is okay. We should pay the wealth tax. This is a guy that's got the shittiest customer service for an airline, and no airline in the world loses more luggage than United Airlines. Yet he wants to say, you're going to pay your wealth tax.

7:36Knock it off to billionaires. You know what his salary is, by the way, what this guy made last year, United Airlines CEO? $32 million. He's having a hard time financially. Poor guy. But he's not a billionaire. So tax the billionaire, but not me because I only make$32 million here, Vinny. Not the billionaires. Tax them. But I'm poor. I'm down here. I'm just a regular middle America guy making$32 million here as a United. Poor guy. Anyways, we'll talk about that guy a little bit. Yankees. There's so much I want to say about the Yankees, but I won't. However, my friend who's a Dodger fan, Will Tom, he's got a lot of stuff to say about the Yankees.

8:04But I love baseball and it's important that they're strong. Hal Steinbrenner came up and said some stuff about the Yankees. What happened? Aaron Boone. A lot of fans are a little bit confused on what's going on and Hal indirectly blamed the players for a bad year for not the pitchers, but offense. We had a bad offense. We'll talk about that. Bukele, there's something very attractive about this guy. You guys ready for this? So apparently four of his Salvadorian folks go on a humanitarian trip to Haiti to help out the people in Haiti. The gangsters in Haiti get a hold of these four people that are just trying to help out.

8:38You know what Bukele says? Oh, you want to do that to my people? He sent his special forces to go and get those four people back in Haiti. Can you imagine that? Somebody should hire this guy to be the national police and protect a bunch of different places, what he's got going on. By the way, somewhere in Bukele's bloodline, I bet there was like a full-on criminal gangster, brutal, tough guy that gave Bukele more the character, you know, values, Christian gangster, that he goes and gets the bad guys. But somebody in his bloodline, I bet, was semi-MS-13 type of a person. But who knows? All right, so those are some of the stories that we got and some more stories that we have to address.

9:14But let's get into it, a couple different things. For some of you guys that are part of the boardroom, last night we had a great event at the Cigar Boardroom Lounge, members only. We had originally was only supposed to be seven players. If you have the clip, seven players from the 2001 Miami Hurricanes show up. You know what happened by the end of the night? Everybody showed up. Ed Reed was there. Jeremy Shockey was there. Andre Johnson was there. And Clinton Portis was there. It was a phenomenal night for members. Guys, if you're not a member. So many people showed up. They're like, hey, mom, I just became a member because of what you said on the CTA.

9:48That's not even the election night. This was just last night. Mikeli, Mano, the team did a great job. If you're not a member yet and you're in Florida or around the country and you want to be a member, go to boardroomcigarlounge.com. Again, boardroomcigarlounge.com. Let's put a link below. Fill out the application. Everybody's a business owner. You do deals with them, great relationships. Next, for some of you that are watching, the beautiful shirt Tom is wearing. If you look at Tom's shirt with the FLB logo on it or the one Vinny's wearing, the black one with the FLB logo on it, this is all I wore.

10:17I no longer wear those$900 to$1 ,200 shirts because it would rip apart. This is all I wear. I still wear my Stefano Ricci suit, but when it comes down to white shirts, I'm only wearing the FLB shirts. And if anybody today, this is only today, goes and buys any of the FLB shirts today, we are including, this is one of the coolest things that we have. We have these free laser engraved stainless steel collar stays with each purchase that on it, it says future looks bright. Very, very sick. Really unique piece that we have here. I don't know if the picture's on the site or not, the video, while you're watching it.

10:52So you order a shirt, purse shirt you order, you'll get one of these that is sent to you. So I suggest you buy all the colors that you have for your husband, for your son, for yourself, and pick up an FLB shoe or two with it, the loafers especially, as you're matching it with the shirt. So go to FLB.com to place your order. Again, go to FLB.com to place your order. With that being said, let's get right into it. The story I want to start off with is the Vivek ad. The Vivek ad with Amy Acton, who is his opponent in Ohio. The race is she's getting elite in a big way, and all of a sudden we're like, okay, October surprise, let's play a clip.

11:31And the clip that they wanted to put up was Amy Acton's mom, his opponent, telling the world about the true Amy Acton, and then afterwards, hell broke loose. Watch this video. Go for it. My name is Donna Arthur, and I'm Amy Acton's mother. I work at Children and Family Service Association, building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying about her opponent, it's not easy for a mother to say this, but Amy has a serious problem. She is a liar. She lies about her past. She says she grew up living in a tent. None of that is true. She's lied her entire life.

12:18My daughter needs help, and she can't help you if she needs help herself. People can change, but first they have to tell the truth, and my daughter still isn't doing that. Don't vote for people who lie. Don't let her become your governor. Wow. If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself. You can pause it right there. By the way, so brutal, brutal ad from your mom about you. Think about how painful that would be. So before we go judging whether this is a good ad or not, let's just see how data would show. So if it was a good ad, it's fair to say gamblers and bettors and people that are like, well, I would bet on, you know, the language.

12:59I would bet Mamie's going to lose. I would bet Vivek's going to lose. I bet this ad's going to help Vivek. Okay. So let's go look at the numbers of the day it was released. So October 18th, beautiful day, it was released, this video. On that day, Amy Acton was at 70%. Vivek was at 30 % on Cal Shea with$4.2 million that Amy was winning. So if the ad was a good ad, that 70 % would become 55 % and the 30 % would become 45%. But let's see what happens. Go for it. instead Amy's chances goes from 70 % to 81 % plus minus of 11 that's the only way a marketing is going to judge it row as you know or how much the CAC is or any of this data a data person is going to look at this now a few things that you got to be thinking about on what happened J.D.

13:50Vance has responded to this uh Trump's responded to this here's what the vice president had to say J.D. when asked this was his college roommate uh they were friends in college and I even believe he named his son after Vivek. If I'm not mistaken, JD's son's name is Vivek. If you have JD's clip, he was asked about this on the ad and his response was not, hey, I like the ad or I don't like the ad. This is what JD had to say about the ad. Go for it. Buy stocks to sell before the end of the week. You might be missing the opportunity to hear. Now it might be a good time. My guy says now is the time to go all in.

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17:08And I've got to be honest that when I see Republicans, people in my party, reacting so strongly, especially elected officials, look, have the opinion you want to have on that ad. If you think it was too tough, say it was too tough. If you think it wasn't tough enough, say that. But I have to admit that I'm a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans across the country who are whining more about that advertisement than they are about what the congressional Democrats and other Democrats want to do to the United States of America. We already see where this goes. It's tough. It's a tough listen.

17:38I'm telling you, it's hard to listen to this, right? And J.D. is one of the better talented guys. and then the story comes about because Amy responds and she says, the story comes out that at nine years old she was both sexually and physically abused by her mother's husband second husband not her father, her stepfather she was abused and the mother sided with the ex-husband the husband and she walks, she loses custody of her daughter and this is somebody that the mother said She worked at two sexual abuse programs where she worked at. That's what she did for a living. The only daughter that she wouldn't protect is her own daughter.

18:19If you think about that story, right? Vivek responds back, you know, doubling down, hey, we did this, and he did say we did not pay her. Is this Vivek talking about Amy? Go ahead and play this clip. Go for it. We have a chance to elect a governor who, I hope I'll lay it out for you, a positive vision for our state versus a governor who has none at all other than to complain about what someone else did to her. That is the choice we face. Okay, so Tom, now that we've heard it all and Trump also came up and look, the reality of it is Ohio is a better state with a man like Vivek running the state than Amy Acton.

18:59That's not the debate here. No one's sitting here debating that Vivek is not more qualified, smart business. He's going to lower taxes. These are the ideas that he has in place. Purely policy to policy. This is not a policy to policy conversation. This is October surprise ad. Was this an effective ad? Is it going to work? Is it not going to work? Tom? Well, this was a misdirected effort. And what was misdirected about it is that, you know, I just don't think they did full diligence, Pat. I mean, I'm stunned. I'm literally stunned. If they did full diligence and found out that this woman has been estranged for 50 years from her daughter.

19:41No one's disputing that fact, by the way. That Amy was a victim of abuse at nine years old. Nine years old. That just is crushing to me. And so I don't think it was good diligence. And then Trump— You don't think they knew? if they knew and they ran it they deserve the worst loss in the history of American politics do you think there was a conversation of guys should we go with this or not what's the worst case best case scenario this is a guy that built a company and he's a pretty wealthy guy do you not think you're going to make a data driven decision is this going to land with the audience or not do you not think they have that conversation with some smart people in the room yes I absolutely do and in my career I've listened to my people around me I've asked all the questions I can ask And then something horrible happens.

20:31And then I come back and it's like, OK, I'm on the hook, guys. I said yes. I greenlit it. But this is where it went. And I've had to let people go over things like that. Because, you know, as a leader, Pat, you can listen to your people. You can ask the questions about it. You can do all those things. But at the end of the day, you make the call and something like this comes up and it's devastating. What was devastating to me is that the president came in to defend. The president was trying to help. The president was saying, here goes the media again. And when Donald Trump was saying that, he was right.

21:05But then later we find out all of this. Trump wouldn't have said that after, after, after. He would have sat there and says, can somebody please tell me what happened here? Because he's trying to come out and defend a candidate and defend a governorship in Ohio, do the things. He's supposed to do that. He should do it. He's supposed to. He's a kingmaker. By the way, I am just struggling with this, and I can see Trump in the Oval Office right now breaking chairs because I'd be breaking chairs if I came out. And then I'm like, wait a minute. I supported you. You didn't check on. It's just horrible.

21:37It's just horrible. And when I look at this, you can see how fast it went. If we could go back to the cow sheet real quick and just put on one week and look how steep it was. People like you and me that are out there with one week. Let's look at this. This thing just goes in hours. It's a 10-point swing in a matter of hours, 72 hours, 96 hours. This thing swings. So this was what the October surprise was is Vivek Ramaswamy just stepped on a rake, and the surprise hit him in the face. And Vivek's a friend. But you look at this and say, you know what? Not this way. And look at all the people that got caught up into it.

22:20I'm really, I'm disappointed and I'm frustrated. And I'll tell you, I don't support Amy. I don't support her policies. I don't think she's the right choice for governor. But I'll tell you, to suddenly have that situation from when you're nine years old, abused by your stepfather, thrown back into like this, man, that's dirty pool. Yeah. Yeah. Everything Tom said. It's also her brother, as far as I know, has corroborated her story. So it's not just her saying it. There's another family member who's. corroborating what happened. Joining the mom or joining her? No, joining her. Okay. And so it's just disturbing.

22:56It's a, it's bad taste. No American, like this is just a demonstration of how dirty politics has become. I think Americans are tired of it. I think it's just, it's dishonest. Well, let me ask you this question. Here's a question for you. If Trump was running, okay, go, go, let's go to different personalities on how, is this a, this wouldn't work with anybody or it doesn't land with Vivek. So let me give you different people. So imagine you're Hillary Clinton going against Trump, okay? And a story like this comes for Hillary Clinton. And Trump has it. Similar to what happened to Amy Acton, Hillary Clinton went through, hypothetically.

23:32Flip it. Similar to what happened to Amy Acton, Trump went through. Who would this ad have worked with that if they played, it would have had a positive effect on him or negative? Or is it no matter who the candidate was, this would have not worked for them. Because remember, Herschel Walker, the sun came out, said something negative about him. You got the 47-second thing with John Kerry. You got the George Bush Sr. that went against Dukakis and the whole, you know, well, he kind of ruined it for himself. You have to grab him by the Bush with Trump. So I'm asking a very interesting question here.

24:07I want to see what you think about. Could anybody have launched this video, it worked positively, then negatively, especially Trump? So my personal take on it is because of the nature of the allegation of abuse to a nine-year-old, I think it's not going to work for anybody. With anybody? I personally don't. Do you understand what I'm asking? Yes. Because some, like, for instance, a lot of people are trying to be, when Obama's, like, I remember a guy that would try to speak like this one guy at the previous company we were a part of. He couldn't do it. He sucked. Yeah. But that guy was a phenomenal speaker.

24:38But when Obama's president, people try to talk like Obama. Of course. If you think about a lot of people who are in their 70s and 80s, you know who they talk like? They talk like Johnny Carson. Why? Because you watch Johnny Carson. Yes. Some speak like Letterman. Some speak like you see the different era of comedians when they come up. So a lot of people are like, well, I'm going to be like Trump. But you either are Trump or you're not Trump. Do you think Vivek is trying to kind of do that? He's always been a good speaker and he's always been that. Since he was a kid. Yeah. When he did the valedictorian speech.

25:05But he, if you guys, because we went to the debates, he sounded, and there's clips of it. He sounded like Obama. And don't get me wrong, he tried to have the attitude of Trump, but it doesn't. Mind you, an amazing, amazing debater. But what I think people are failing, and you nailed it, Elon, politics is a dirty game. And especially with this month leading up to the midterms, they're spending millions and millions, like tens of millions of dollars on these ads and everything like that. But as a conservative, I don't like that take. And I totally believe that there was a meeting and they're in there.

25:40But if you guys are looking at the numbers, even if it was a 10-point swing, Tommy, he's losing horribly. Yes. 70-30, I don't care if it's 80-20, you're not going to win. And this is like a Hail Mary last-ditch effort. But let's not forget why he's there, Pat. I think one of the main reasons, because Vivek was on fire at a point. But in December 2024, when he said, Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long. You're going to crap on Americans. and basically say our culture doesn't prioritize academic excellence enough and argue, you know, why tech companies recruit overseas and stuff.

26:16You crap on Americans, and Americans are listening, bro. That's a big example, Tommy, of Americans going, no, no, no, no, bro. We're not going to do it. I'm 100 % anti this, you know, October surprise, Hail Mary, somebody's mother, paying or not. Bro, to have somebody's mother sit there and say that type of thing, there's zero money involved. What she volunteered just to be like, hey, I'll completely bash her, even though it's false. I think it's disgusting. And as conservative, what is what was the Democrats thing when they go low, we go high, whatever the hell that was. You're not supposed to play that game.

26:50There is one potential positive is that it could set a precedent when people start looking at this response that in the future, people are a little more timid to make such deep personal attacks about childhood trauma. Like this might be a warning sign that they're looking at saying, OK, Americans aren't responding to this kind of language anymore. this kind of advertising anymore this yeah but but i but i think you either know or you don't know you know whether this is going to be a good ad or not and you're like you're right maybe this is going to be something where others in the future like don't attack this area don't attack that area don't touch this area let's kind of keep it here but politics is a nasty game and by the way for me you know a part of it for me is the logical player where as a marketer in your career you do a lot of ads you're like that did not land that was horrible this landed oh my god that was a bad ad oh my god i never thought this was going to be that good of an ad look how much ad leads this ad brought in right you never know you know what we learned this is bad and by the way can you run a simple poll and folks i want to ask you does this turn you off or are you like no way i'm still showing up i'm still voting does this ad turn you off yes no i'm curious to know how you would respond to that.

28:01Very simple, Paul. I just want to get the numbers on that, on what you think about it. But let me get to the next one with the next story that comes out of nowhere. Very weird stories came out yesterday. One video was dropped yesterday. It was Lindsey Graham and his previous gay lovers, but also the other video that was dropped yesterday was Ilhan Omar is being interviewed by somebody, I don't know if it's CNN or MSNBC, one of the ones, and she's being asked. I think it's the guy named Chris Hayes, right? Chris Hayes is asking, hey, did you really marry your brother? Was he really your brother?

28:33I was shocked. I could not believe she says, not to my knowledge. What do you mean, not to my knowledge? If somebody says, not to my knowledge, hey, babe, honey, did you hook up with that girl? Not to my knowledge. Did you really used to date that girl? Not to my knowledge. Did you really? I mean, it's like that's a line what a player would say to their girl, not to my knowledge so listen to the way she answers this to msn now and he he's trying to protect her obviously because he's on her side but watch this clip go for it was this man that was your husband when did they start saying that he was your brother why i started with the somali blog um uh that i don't know if it still exists but somebody put in there that you know that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect.

29:26And right-wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it, and they just kind of went and found random people who were like, she introduced us, you know, she introduced him to us and said he was her brother, which is, you know, insane. I mean, I don't know those people that they talk about. You were not related to him at all? Not that. There's not some weird kernel of truth that's who some game of telephone. Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. What? Go back and ask the question one more time, please. Go back and ask the question one more time. There's another clip playing in the background.

30:03Go back a little bit and, yeah, right there. Watch this. Talk about? You were not related to him at all. Not that. There's not some weird kernel of truth that's who some game of telephone. Not to my knowledge. Okay, not to my knowledge. All right, so let's go through the timeline. She marries her first husband. They have two kids together. Okay? But she marries it in the church, not like documented by the court, all that stuff. Okay? So if you can zoom in a little bit. Yeah, September 30, 2002, applies for a marriage license with Ahmed Hirsi in Hennepin County, Minnesota. They say they marry religiously, but never finalize a civil marriage.

30:39They have two kids. They separate through a religious divorce, according to Omar. 2009 legally marries Ahmed Noor Said Elmi a British citizen in Eden Prairie, Minnesota a Hennepin County marriage certificate documents the wedding 2011 Omar says she and Elmi religiously divorced no legal divorce is filed and the civil marriage remains valid has a third child with Hirsi after reconciling with him while still legally married to Elmi Omar and Hirsi filed joint marriage tax returns despite not being legally married to each other in 2014-2015 And allegations emerge that Elmi is Hersey's, is Omar's brother, and that their marriage facilitated immigration benefits.

31:21Omar denies both allegations, neither is proven. Legally divorces Elmi through Minnesota courts approximately six years after their reported religious separation. Legally marries Hersey in Hennepin County. Minnesota Campaign Finance Board orders Omar to reimburse$3.4 something million to pay to find investigation documents. So anyways, legally then divorces Hersey. This is getting very complicated. Following public allegations of an affair with political consultant Timothy Minnette, the effort was disputed, marries Timothy Minnette, their marriage license is filed in D.C., Omar campaign pays Minnette's political consulting firm$2.78 million.

31:58FEC closes its investigation. Then the investigation reopens under Biden. Just a nasty thing that's going on here. And then today she's out there asking$5,$10 of donations saying she's being targeted by Trump. Very weird situation on what's going on. This is the clip of her asking for money, almost being emotional about it. So, Vinny, where are you at with this? Do you think anything's going to happen? And what are the facts that you find about her marriage to her brother, allegedly? Well, first and foremost, first and foremost, this is going to be right to me. Because, you know, accountability and everything that we talk about.

32:31if this woman with if it's all right and if because obviously we've been calling it forever where her her her name is Ilhan Noor Said Elmi okay because according to the court filings and Jeanine Pirro said she identified her as this name that's her that's the brother's name like it's almost without a shadow of a doubt she did this and she lied okay and what makes it more interesting Pat is this all started under Biden so my point that I'm trying to make is if she doesn't if they don't get her mind you this is one thing the marrying the brother okay the feeding the future all that stuff that's happening in somalia where she is implicated her fingerprints and her people are all over this thing and then come to find out her husband the lying with the money it was worth 13 000 and all of a sudden it was three 30 billion i'm sorry 30 million and she goes whoops and apparently um tim burchett yesterday two days ago was on the podcast but they were sending people empty barrels of wine there's all oh yeah they were almost saying that as if it was a like you know hunter biden with his 200 000 250 000 paintings that's what it's doing pat and what it's coming to find out that it's all bs and i think mind you you know what they're saying the brother marriage thing is the lowest thing on the totem pole apparently and allegedly they lied about her date her team went to the library of of whatever in in minnesota changed her birth date.

33:55That's all factual. And then Ilhan Omar came to America as a refugee after her family fled Somalia. But here's something I want you guys to know about her father, Nur Omar Muhammad. According to his obituary, he was the colonel of the Somali National Army under the dictator, Muhammad Syed Bar, whose regime, and he was responsible because he was with them, Pat. Mass atrocities, thousands, hundreds of thousands of people killed. So when your family's fleeing the government and the collapse, we take refugees, Pat, because you need help from fleeing that regime. But he was one of the main guys. You were a colonel helping kill all these people.

34:35So there's a lot of questions. My point is this, Pat. If they can't get her, if this administration, this isn't a witch hunt, and I hate when people play this racist stuff. If you're one of these people that's out there and her crocodile tears, I need$5. I need$10. You're a fool, okay? If the Trump administration, the Department of Justice, Pat, can't get somebody that's this blatantly obvious, I've lost. There's nothing going to happen to anybody. And they're all on the same team because we're still waiting for what? James Comey with the shells. He's he might get off. And what's his name with the mustache?

35:09John Bolton got in trouble from everything that they've done from Obama, the spying, the Bill Clinton and Biden. This is this is all we're at. Vinny, do you think there's any chance of accountability in it? me personally no because i feel like like you know what it is and a great question elan i feel like we like the administration keeps dangling past something in our face and we go to bite and then they take it away and i'm not i don't want what the democrats do when they purposely and they tell you like slotkin we're gonna come after you get arrest some people because it's gonna happen because elan once they get in power and we're gonna get into that story with that they're gonna be hypocrites we are screwed the trump administration's fine because he's gonna get pardoned they're all gonna get pardoned yeah and we're gonna be like hey guys what about us because we've been in this fight bro we've been how long have we been supporting uh trump when it wasn't like cool when they were punching people in the face for wearing the red uh make america great again hats pat i don't know i hope i hope because it seems like she's guilty but if nothing happens i'm gonna be pissed i would love to see a behavioral specialist analyze that clip for deception the one where she's saying uh not to my knowledge you know it's the entire situation is just very weird again accountability is something i don't have faith in anymore in this country which this is just another demonstration of it and this story has been going on not for a short amount of time it's been going on for years years and it still hasn't developed into something where there's you know significant significant action that's been taken against her she's gotten away with so much stuff that at this point and you don't you so you don't think anything's going to happen i don't have faith in the system anymore i think i'm kind of similar to a lot of americans in that sense uh this would be such a public extremes this is twilight zone level stuff yeah like if you go back 20 years and you told me a situation like this could happen in the united states when i was like a 25 year old i'd say that's an impossibility and yet here today this is the worst thing is too pat the arrogance attitude of her out there and it's been happening forever tim walls has been quiet ellison has been quiet in minnesota but the arrogance of f like f america and she bleeds it and taking money now saying give me five bucks give me 20 bucks but And, Ilan, did we talk about accountability?

37:10They stole in Minnesota, Tommy. Dude, tens of billions of dollars. And then you want to talk about accountability. It's not like a... It was a criminal enterprise. It was an organized criminal enterprise. Call it that when you speak. It absolutely was. And they intimidated witnesses that were coming forward going, hey, we work for them. And, yeah, they're stealing money. They went after them, intimidated them. But if I'm going to go back, Pat, for 30 seconds, you want to talk about zero accountability? We know. We don't think. We know Obama and his freaking CIA and his Department of Justice and everybody with Hillary Clinton and the DNC lied and they set up Trump with Russia collusion.

37:46FISA abuse. They had major FISA abuse that's never been acknowledged. This is the single biggest scandal. Period. It's a massive scandal and no one cares about. No, and I'll put COVID aside because Biden pardoned Fauci. Okay, they played a tricky game which killed millions of people. But not one person has gone to jail for the biggest scam, Russia collusion. and they want us to think Elon Musk is going to get in trouble. They said one FBI. Yeah, one guy. I have a slightly different take. I think this is going to be all headlines, and it's going to be a lot of things come up. And it's not just the media.

38:20It's not just the press releases. It's not just accusations. Those were federal agents with boxes coming out of her house. So there is evidence being collected. Now, why do I think it's just going to be headlines? Because I think when it really comes down to it, when it really hits the fan in public, are they really going to do this and then turn around and go to everybody? Everybody in Congress is checkmated one way or another. A donation you took, somebody did that you had a Nicaraguan nanny that wasn't properly documented or documented at all, for crying out loud. So I think when it comes down to it, she's going to have enough support and enough votes on any committees of censure and things, Pat, that it's not going to happen.

39:07And I don't think that this will go all the way to the mat because I think everybody is checkmated, everybody. It's like, you allowed this? Really? Okay, well, get ready to sit in a chair at your hearing. You're going to be sitting there. I think this is headlines. I think the DOJ is going to come up and be short of actually taking action, which is boom. And by the way, I speak from something I know about. Now, we would sit there. I went to Pepperdine. And people talked about in open terms, hey, there were organizations in L.A., Pat, that would pay you, men and women,$5 ,000 to marry somebody from Mexico.

39:48Remember before they changed the law? To literally have a weekend marriage to get somebody over here so that they could have the marriage certificate. They could get a green card citizenship and then flip it. Then they changed the law and they started auditing. Well, how long were they married? 72 hours. But it wasn't a weekend hookup holiday. You were given five grand to help somebody get to the United States illegally. I didn't do it. But at the time I went to school, it was all over Southern California. Then they changed. I wasn't friends with people, but I knew people that took the money and did it.

40:19And I'm like, that's wrong. You shouldn't be doing that. Then they changed the law and they came down on them. And so I think what's going to happen here, headlines, DOJ, but I don't think they take it to the mat, which would mean you got here illegally, you're out of Congress, you're out of the United States, and we're done here. I don't think they're going to go that far. So let me tell you. So you have three different camps. The camp that doesn't think anything will happen. The camp that is skeptical but open. And then there's a camp that thinks something that's going to happen. Okay? None of you guys are in the camp of something's going to happen to this girl.

40:54OK, you guys are in the camp of nothing's going to happen. You're in the camp of semi nothing's going to happen. Skeptical leaning, maybe. But let me tell you, if you look at the approval rating of the CIA or the FBI or the federal government, it's the lowest it's ever been. And the reason for it is because there is no accountability. Right. I think this administration has an opportunity to change that and view it in a complete different way. If they're able to do something, if you're not going to do something, by the way, like, for instance, Trump sues BBC. You guys saw it for the$10 billion.

41:24So you know what? BBC comes back and says, hey, no problem. Hey, findings. Come. You want to accuse? You got to come to a deposition and go through. And I think he has to show up December 11th, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, if you don't show up and do the deposition by December 11th, it's going to be dismissed. All right. So these things have to be done. Like I had this girl on, Frances Haugen, from the Facebook whistleblower. And one of the things that caused her to go and blow the whistle was January 6th, J6. Okay? And then in front of her, in front of her, I can't believe, I showed the clip of BBC manipulating the video of what he said to go to the Capitol, and she says, I've never seen this before.

42:03Oh, really? And then I said, but wait a minute. She says, you know what? Can you pull up the transcript? I want to know what he says afterwards. Conor pulls up the transcript. We read the whole transcript of what he said afterwards. She had nothing to say. Really? Nothing to say. So then I said, so do you think the idea of suspending him off of social media, even though he said go do it peacefully, he said peacefully, then she's like, well, and then she almost wanted to kind of change the subject. It was actually a very good conversation. And she ended up being very fair with the conversation that we had.

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45:43We're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong. We have to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated. I know that everyone soon will be marching over there to the Capitol to peacefully and patriotically make your voices being heard. But what's the key word, peacefully? Guess what? BBC didn't put that. And even the girl from Facebook who's the whistleblower is like, you know, Trump got suspended. She had never seen this before.

46:14Think about that. Okay. So where am I going with this? These things, they have to be held accountable. When George Stephanopoulos had to pay the fine for what they did and the words that they used, there has to be accountability. Trump's administration, they're not in the best place right now. I think the approval rating is the lowest it's ever been. I don't know if you've seen the approval rating or not. But there's two or three things they could do to have a massive spike in plus, minus, and approval rating. One of them is accountability. If they're able to hold people like her accountable, you're going to gain a lot of respect back from people who were hoping there's going to be some accountability.

46:53You have to have slow victories like this. So if you release this, I think in May he gave a speech about this. If you want to pull it up when he was talking about Ilhan Omar, I don't know if you have the clip or not. I texted it to you. If you don't, don't worry about it. We can move on to the next story. Yeah, if you can just play it from right there. He's joking. Go fast forward for about five seconds when he starts right there. So he jokes about it. Watch this. And then she married a brother to come in. I don't know. You know? But I think I would imagine they're looking at her. I have nothing to do with it.

47:23This is May. I would imagine. Of course I have nothing to do. Five months ago. I have nothing, but I believe she married her brother, which is totally illegal. Although it's a lovely couple, actually, but it's a little bit on the illegal side. Darling, I love you very much. Good night, brother. Good night, brother.

47:47Isn't she despicable? Trump is one of a kind. There's no one who can say what he's saying in the way he says it. She accidentally checked the wrong box that said she was worth$38 million. And law enforcement came after her for that. And then all of a sudden she was worth less than$80 ,000. Oh, yeah, that's the other thing. She said it was accounting. It was an accounting era. So you can pause it right there. So the point is this. If you drop this like this, you know, it's like you start talking dirty to your girl. And then you're like, yeah, no, I'm going to go watch the football game. wait what you got me all hot and everything and then you leave the bed yeah and then there's only so many blue you know you can handle and eventually like do it what are you doing yeah so this is the foreplay and then walking away dude nothing yeah how do men feel when that happens or how do women feel when that happens to you right yeah hey i'm gonna go to i'm gonna go see the boys hey babe i'm gonna go make a sandwich for the kids before you make the sandwich for the kids finish the flipping job, right?

48:53Before you leave. I feel like a lot of American voters, respectfully, have blue balls, right? You're absolutely right. Finish the flipping job. My head's about to explode, no pun intended. But my point is this, guys. If this was a Democrat administration and the roles were reversed, what would... She'd be gone! She'd already be in prison! We saw it with Trump. That's what I'm saying. is like bro say what you want about the democrats elan they play to freaking win it's a dirty game and they're willing to get dirty and they get in the mud conservatives are like no no it's come on and i'm not talking about the antin and the viva that's disgusting this when bro when something walks like a duck smells like a duck feels like a duck it's probably a duck yeah it's she is quacking her ass off with her brother and her husband and all this stuff and it's like bro We have less than two years, less than two years come November.

49:51We're still waiting. Let me go to the next door. The next door I want to go to is go finish. I just wanted to say corrupt power dynamics, which you've seen virtually across the board, not just politics. You could see it when it comes to certain cases in law enforcement that are clearly very a bad look. You see it anywhere in Hollywood. It's very, very rare to see in that kind of dynamic that the people at the top who hold the most power actually get held accountable. There's usually a fall guy at a much lower level. And by the way, this is leading to some very nasty comments being made. So Elon Musk retweets a video and comments in the video of Kira Swisher saying, if the midterms go this way, you're going to see what they're going to do to Elon Musk.

50:30And Elon's like, wait, what? And then Hillary and then other people back this comment. So watch this. Go forward. Kamala Harris, he might be in jail right now, right? He is correct. And that's not because she's some avenging fury. It's because there's a lot of questions around different companies of his. If Donald Trump loses the House and the Senate, I would worry. I'd be worried if I were him, you know, even though how rich he is. There were all these agencies, some of which he put a knife in and killed in the doge, many of whom were investigating him. He stopped like half a dozen investigations of his various companies.

51:02So they're going to start investigating again. You think he's not on the list? He's at the top of that list. Donald Trump obviously is at the top in his family. But Elon Musk is right up there for that. I actually think Elon Musk is above Trump. He knows what's coming. He's not stupid. Of all the many things you can say about him, he has a very big sense of fate, and I think it's coming for him. You can pause it right there. So now watch. Elon sees this. He comments. If you can go find a tweet, it says, message received. Message received. And he also says, if I find out that you guys come, I'm coming for you.

51:38Live by the sword, die by the sword. For those who pick fights with me should understand that I will find out who is really pulling the strings and come for them, not just for their puppets. This is not a joke anymore. They're going to come after this guy in a big way. And then Hillary Clinton in a different podcast. This is what she had to say. Go for it. I think follow the money. That's where it should be in the first order of business. Follow the money, which you did with Haiti. The other one I would look at would be Doge. What happened and where did the information go and what did Elon get?

52:08You know, I think if you had to pick one tech figure, I suppose one of the reasons he backed Trump in the first place, and I said this at the time, everyone was surprised, was that it was an existential crisis for him. If he didn't, those investigations that were already beginning and the scrutiny would have continued. And he managed to take down every agency that was investigating him. And so to me, he is the example, right, of that kind of shadow president. And looking into him would be, I think, a lot. It would be an example. If there's one thing that they do have right, the most powerful man in America, respectfully, is Elon Musk.

52:46The most powerful man in the world, in my opinion, is Elon Musk. Maybe it's too early to say it'll be validated in five years because of what he's doing with communication, with Starlink, with his battery, with his cars, with his SpaceX. This is not a regular guy they're going up against, right? To the point where world leaders are worried about Elon more than they're worried about what Trump's going to be doing. And they're uniting. They're coming together. So Trump, Elon knows they're going to come after this guy in a big way. Tom, when you hear something like this happen and something like this being said, and by the way, you know what else Hillary Clinton said?

53:23She says, if we take the House, we should raise the number of Supreme Court seats to 13, I believe she said. From 9 to 13. She said that. It's documented as well. They already have their plans. Kamala's also said this, to pack the court. They've been saying it, to get rid of the electoral. There's a lot, like what the Republican Party almost got, that Amy Coney Barrett didn't help close, which was the single most important thing. You know what it was? Voter ID. It was number one above all. Folks, if only people knew how important that was for them to get done and they didn't get done. These guys are going to take the complete opposite side of vote.

54:01You know what's the complete opposite side of voter ID? Electoral. Getting the complete opposite is to have, well, look, Hillary Clinton got four million more votes than Trump. Hillary Clinton that that way, because certain states that are blue and there are certain demos. If they get rid of that, liberals are going to be winning year after year after year after year after year for president. And Amy Coney Barrett, Supreme Court justice is the reason why you don't have that. Just so you know that she's the one that you don't have that. So, Tom, when you see something like this with Elon and Kara Swisher and Hillary Clinton, what they're saying, do you believe them?

54:35I more than believe him. If you take a look at Elon, I think he said something once and I think he realized just how things can move. And it's when he said financing assured. He was making a comment about one of his companies. He was going up and he needed financing and he said, you know, funding secured. I think that was the tweet. It goes funding secured. And the SEC and everybody else jumped on him. And, you know, it was like 400 and yeah, it was when he was making also marijuana jokes, 420 jokes, 420 used to be 420 p.m. Let's meet behind the gym and get high. And so 420 became that. There it is.

55:17There we go. If this is on screen for people, there it is. 420 a share, fundy secured. And it caused massive stock volatility. And the SEC came out and said, dude, you can't do this. And so there has been an evolution of Elon who learns two things. He learns where the next market gap is, where he wants to go, and how to get people behind it. And the second thing he learns is who's with him, who's against him, and what they're doing. And he learned here, okay, this is how the SEC is going to work. Okay, well, then I have to play that. And now you're playing with him, and he's just, instead of saying something like this, he just says, message received, live by the sword, die by the sword.

55:55You want to go? Really what he's saying, Pat, is, oh, you want to go? Let's play. And the game that he is playing is so much different than the game that they're playing. I would not want to go up against him, and I think he knows exactly what he needs to do. He can outspend their opponent. He can find issues that they don't want or they don't like, and he can go hard on those issues. There are so many things that he can do. This is what you're going to go after? Okay. And I think that's the message here. I think they're underestimating Elon Musk's character. He's the type of person who's never cared about how much money he has, how much public, you know, how much public following he has, what people think about him.

56:38They're picking a fight with someone who really will push to the end. He's typically stood by his ideals more than anything. So if he believes someone's coming after him, he'll do everything in his power to stop them. It's also just, we've seen. Amen to that. Yeah. And we've seen Democrats time and time again, use the full political force available to them, whether it's the federal government, whether it's connections in entertainment to silence people, go after political opponents, try and arrest people. So Elon Musk now is at the top of that list. They're probably picking the wrong person to do that with.

57:06Do you think so? And they fear, you could see how much the establishment fears individual power when it comes to Elon Musk and how they've continuously tried to come after him. So, again, I don't know how this is going to turn out, but I do think Elon Musk has the capabilities to stand up for him. But I've said this how many times? Thank God he's leaning towards the sane, conservative side. And one of our good friends, I think you guys know him, Patrick by David wrote, choose your enemies wisely. This is not a good enemy to go against, is Elon. And he is not. Pat, when he says, I'll find out who the puppets, trust me, he has access and he has the connections.

57:41He'll find out like with the Reid Hoffmans and who's putting the money to make you say what the hell you're saying. You think he knows? Oh, Tom. You think he already knows when he says I'll find out? Absolutely. Everything. Absolutely. And I think that's part of the game. He's already moving. I will find out who's behind you, but he already knows. Oh, of course. That's 3D chess. Oh, Tom, he knows. And again, this goes back to the point where you're talking about the Democrats, you think that's going to stop them? They play to win, and they're going to play freaking dirty. And Pat, when Hillary was saying that she wants to pack the Supreme Court, Elon tweeted this.

58:13This is literally their plan to end democracy. Can you click on the actual Fisher King, Pat? He says the playbook will go something like this. win back the house and senate hopefully the presidency in 2008 admit dc and puerto rico as states which doesn't need a constitutional amendment to gain four new senate seats and cement control three pack the court which only requires a change of the judiciary act of 1869 not the constitutional amendment eliminate the electoral college boom which is unconstitutional but when you have the rigged court that finds a loophole flood the country with with violent migrants swamp the natives and hold power indefinitely their plan is out there and again They're public about it.

58:50They don't care. What are you going to do? Dude, say what you want. They're going to tell you their plan, too. This is the globalist plan to destroy Western civilization, and it has to take down the one shining light where the future still looks bright, where there are still patriots, and put me on. So I see this, and it pisses me off. But if I know their playbook, I'm going to come after their playbook. Damn right. Because I happen to think that the people that want liberty, freedom, and the Constitution in which we stand are going to come up. And I think the future looks bright because we're about to identify the patriots that want to step forward into this bullshit and stand in the void and make it happen, not just point at it and say, look what they're trying to do.

59:26I want to know who are the popular candidates we're going to bring up. I want to know who is going to be behind them. I want to know when is the GOP going to wake up and put those candidates forward. I want to know when is an independent party in this country really going to stand forth this independence with somebody that's standing there and driving it. That's what I'm waiting for. I get so pissed off looking about all what they're going to do, what they're going to do, what they're going to do. They should worry about what I'm going to do when I stand on liberty and freedom and the things that I hold dear.

59:55And I get people that are behind me because the people that are behind me are going to have more passion, more dedication, more force, more drive because they're political. I'm coming from the heart. And you cannot beat the heart of the people when you light up that heart. Oof. That's what I'm talking about. Vinny said something earlier. He said, I'm happy that he's leaning toward more of the sane conservative approach. He's not. He's leaning toward what Tom just said, which is true. I love it. And our foundational beliefs and our principles in this country, which are under attack. It's not right versus left.

1:00:24If you're a patriot, if you care about the foundational principles of this country, they're worth defending. They're worth defending to any extent. We have nothing without that. And he sees a direct attack on those ideals and those principles. And I honestly believe he's the type of person who's willing to die for those ideals. Thank God. And we have to start speaking up about that kind of thing, packing the court, all this stuff that they want to do. Absolutely insane. Yeah. Here's the part you have to realize. So today, the other day, Dylan Tickle was asking me a question. He said, so, Dad, who is the current Charlie Kirk?

1:00:55I said, what do you mean? Who's the current Charlie Kirk? Who are young boys looking at right now? I said, who do you think? It's a great question. I actually don't know. That's why I'm asking you. So you don't know. No. Okay. Okay. So remember that Avengers, there's not just one Avenger. There's Avengers, multiple type, right? And they all play different roles. Charlie was playing the role of the youth. Young men had an example of somebody to look up to Tom. They had somebody to look up to Tom. And so it was like one of those things where you're looking at what these Avengers are going to be.

1:01:28If I ask you right now who the Avengers are, who are the Avengers? Trump's one of them. Charlie's gone. Musk is one of them. Who else are the Avengers? call the Avengers right now. Who else you put on that list? I think Rubio is one of them. Yeah. Okay, who else you got on the money side? Who else you got on the media side? Who else you got on the sports side? Who else you got on the Hollywood side? I think, like, Dana White's an Avenger. 100%. I think Dana White's an Avenger. I think, like, Brandon Gill, he's one of those, like, lower-key. You got to go bigger. He's a junior, junior, junior Avenger.

1:01:57I'm talking about guys that are true Avengers with a lot of influence. You have to think media. Guys like Mel Gibson, oddly enough. And like there's some people on the right, like Chris Pratt has spoken up, pushed people more toward faith. So you have to know some of these guys that are the Avengers. So to me, where I'm going with this is go to what happened to Charlie. The day before something happened to Charlie, you never thought anything was going to happen to Charlie. You thought he was going to be around forever. Okay. Yeah. Go to if they do something to Elon. Go the next day. So actually think about it.

1:02:29So what is the estate planning there? He just put a billion dollars into Skydance or is it Skydance? Am I saying it correct? He put a billion dollars. He owns a part of CNN now, just so you know that. He went in with David Ellison and Larry Ellison. He just announced a billion dollars yesterday, right? So what if something happens to Elon? What happens to Twitter? Who buys it? Does his estate keep it? Who runs in this state? His kids? Oh, man. Who actually manages that? If something were to happen, what happens there? So to me, you better believe, I'm always looking at, you know, if you're a street guy, you always have to think about who the enemy is going to take out first.

1:03:07So if the enemy takes out, the way to do it, do you work bottom up? Do you one by one by one take the people at the bottom and then you take the top guy out? Or is it faster to take the top guy out? And out doesn't mean necessarily killing, right? In this situation, they killed Charlie is what they did. They killed him. But Elon better have the best protection for himself. And not only that, also proper state planning to know what happens if something were to happen to him. He's for sure planned ahead. I think he for sure has planned ahead. But you'd be surprised how many people who have not planned ahead of what's going to happen with the running of the operation, running of the business.

1:03:43This is very important. A lot of billionaires in the past like Ford who thought Ford was going to be protected forever. Ford is the reason why we have so many mosques in America. I don't know if you know this or not. Ford brought the first imam to Michigan. The reason why Michigan is the way it is is because of Ford. Ford had a massive, massive hate. He was a very well-known anti-Semite. And what he did is, the way he did it is he says, hey, let me bring people from Syria, from other countries that were willing to come and work for minimum wage. He kept bringing them, and eventually accidentally brought an imam who eventually ended up funding the first, what year is it, that they ended up building the first mosque?

1:04:21So, yeah, right there, he was bringing Arab workers, if you look at it right there, and then eventually it led to in Dearborn, Dearborn becoming this. So I hope all of that has been intentionally organized because things are going to get nasty. For me, I'm convinced the future looks right because God's on our side, 100%. I believe God's on our side, and I think the right people are finding each other. We need a bigger backbone. We need to be able to sell our ideas better than the others because we do have better ideas. What Charlie did right is he sold the ideas good. He sold the ideas that we have.

1:04:57You can have a great product with a terrible salesperson, and you can lose to a person with a horrible product and a great salesperson. Right now, Democrats have a horrible product, but they're doing a better job selling. And we have a better product, and we have to do a better job selling. If you have a better product, and if you're better at articulating the message better, you end up winning. So we have to do a better job selling the ideas continuously. Let me get to the next story. So while all this stuff is going on, Zuckerberg all of a sudden announces that maybe he may be leaving California.

1:05:27Rumors are going around that he may be leaving California. And people are like, wait a minute. Zuck's leaving California? He may leave California because the wealth tax guy is worth a few hundred billion dollars. So he's considering leaving California over the wealth tax. Well, Meadow Board sits there because Sergey Brin announces two days ago, the article came out, that Sergey Brinveni saved$15 billion of wealth tax, leaving the state of California to move to Florida. And on top of that, he just bought his$174 million house. Sergey Brin did, if you want to pull up that story, on the amount of money he was saving.

1:06:02And so the next day. In Miami. In Miami. The next day, yeah,$51 million drops. No, but there's another story. That's not the one. It's$15 billion that he saved in wealth tax and$174 billion. Just type in Sergey Brin,$15 billion, well taxed, you'll see it. Yeah,$15 billion. The article will come up. Let me see which one that is. Yeah, he could owe$13 billion if he loses it. This is a different one. So Meta sits there and says, we need to think about an idea. So what do they do? They announced to Zuck that, hey, eight years, stay in California near Meta. Meta's campus is massive, and Zuck is the one that's very much involved.

1:06:43with their next AI program. This article dropped 48 hours ago, threatened to leave, met or met with the board. They allowed him to take$20 billion cash off the table without losing his control because right now I think he owns 16.3 % of shares, but he owns 64 % of voting rights. Right, because each of his shares have special super votes. That's right, similar to what the Peter Thiel thing that you and I talked about. So he has that level of control. Founders shares, yep. Founders shares. So Zuck, all of a sudden, the announcement comes out that he is staying in California now. Then Ro Khanna tweets out and saying, hey, the wealth tax isn't that bad.

1:07:21Because even Zuckerberg, who runs a multi-trillion dollar company, has this, look at this, looks like billionaires will stay and figure out a way to pay the tax if we pass Prop 40. Poor California kids can have health care. Gavin, can you and Sergey Brin stop with your fear mongering of a billion? He is not telling the entire story. because this story has nothing to do with the fact that Zuck has agreed to pay the wealth tax. The board knew he was going to pay the wealth tax and found a creative way to making it attractive for him to stay without losing the control. So, Tom, you see the story of what's happening here with Zuck going there and Facebook addressing it.

1:08:01This is after Facebook was charged with, they have to pay$25 billion a fine. By the way, their revenue has increased, but their EBITDA hasn't quarter to quarter. I think their revenue increased right there. They have to pay$25 billion for deceiving users about the privacy on Facebook. So, Tom, what are your thoughts on this story? First of all, go back to the tweet really quick. The second line of Ro Khanna's tweet, Gavin, as in Gavin Newsom, can you and Sergey stop with your fear-mongering of a billionaire exodus? Gavin Newsom and Ro Khanna are banging heads on this one. The first thing I need to point out to people, because Gavin Newsom is taking heat, and he wants his next political step.

1:08:39Guess what? But Ro Khanna has his next political step. He knows what his next five moves are, where he's going. Gavin Newsom wants to run for president, and this thing is sticking to him like Velcro. And Ro Khanna is going out at him, poking him in the chest. Can you and Sergey Brin start your fear margarine? Ro Khanna, a Democrat, is directly blaming Gavin for some of the dust-up, number one. Number two, hey, you know what? They're trying to do what's best for Facebook. Don't let anybody tell you this is about California. Zuck is saying, I want to move, and I'm going to do this. And, yes, Sergey Brin did it, and others did it, and I'm going to do it.

1:09:14And what they're coming back and saying, what they're really saying is, we need you as CTO the same way that Larry Ellison was needed. Because Larry Ellison is really CTO of Oracle. He's a freaking genius. He was really that guy, not just like Andy Grove was the CEO and the genius on chips. So what you have here, Pat, is they feel they need Zuck. And so Zuck is saying, I don't want to get slammed like this. And they're like, okay, well, the other problem is Zuck doesn't have the money in cash. Zuck has a massive ownership of Facebook. And when you take that percent and tell him that he has to do it, this is exactly what people said about startups that maybe get to Series C.

1:10:00Hey, we raised$100 million. Now my startup's worth$4 billion. And, oops, I don't have all that. But today I have to go get a percent of that. Now I have to sell shares. So what they're doing is they're trying to set up a way for Zuck to get the money and for Zuck to stay here. And Ro Khanna is trying to make it seem like, oh, they found a way to make it work. See? We could tax them anyway. They will figure out a way to pay the taxes. Ro Khanna is wrong, but what's also very interesting is he and Gavin are going at it. And it's funny how I haven't even seen it. When's the last time you guys, because remember, for a good three, four months, it was just Gavin, Trump, Hitler, and then he just disappeared.

1:10:39Pat, when's the last time you guys was Gavin in headlines? Well, I didn't disappear. I'm over here. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So an important point that Tom touched on, which just to clarify, because it's important people understand this, it's an unrealized tax. So you don't need to have the money in your bank account or to have made profit for the government to tax you on this new wealth tax. which is unbelievably dangerous. You start a business, you get to a billion dollars of value. You have two million cash in your bank account. The government will come and say, well, too bad, you owe us$50 million.

1:11:10It's a way to destroy any chance of these businesses blowing up. Additionally, it historically does not result, these type of higher taxation policies and structures, in higher net profit received for the government, more job creation, or any positive outcome. So we do see an exodus. In this case, you have a unique case where Zuckerberg is so relevant and so important on a physical level to be in a certain location that the company itself is compensating well beyond. That's an anomalous case. 99 % of cases. By the way, you know what Francis said yesterday, which was brilliant? I asked her a question.

1:11:46I said, what is the difference between Elon Musk and Zuck? She said the difference is Zuck has been this powerful since he was 19 years old starting Facebook. He's been a billionaire since 19. Elon hasn't. Elon's had to earn it. And Zuck's like a dictator because he's got so much power and control the company. Elon's never had this kind of control in his entire life. Not with Tesla. Now, he says even with Tesla, he has to go negotiate. Even with every company, he has to go negotiate. So Zuck is structured in a different way of power than Elon has. It's a very interesting way that she broke it down of the difference between these two.

1:12:24By the way, once the interview comes out, you guys are going to love it. It's very interesting. But I'm going to tell you what the CEO of United Airlines came up and said. Out of all the people out there, all of a sudden, United Airlines CEO comes out and tells New York Times that wealth inequality has become a danger to our society and must be addressed. We should have a national wealth tax. We should have inheritance tax that get close to 100 % at some level I would pay them. Do you understand what he's saying? By the way, Mr. Scott Kirby, who if you go and ask the question of where United Airlines ranks in losing luggage as well as customer service, can you please pull that up?

1:13:02Where does United Airlines rank in losing the luggage and customer service? United has the shittiest customer service in the world. Absolutely horrible. Look at that. 10 out of 10. Instead of worrying about wealth tax with your$32 million salary and you've been there for almost 7 years, it's not like you just got hired. You've been a CEO for 6.5 years. Why don't you go find some of people's luggage? The worst thing Spirit Airlines? 10 out of 10 is worth it. Look at customer satisfaction. 6 out of 8. You suck in customer service. No wonder people saw what you just said. And FYI, this is the thing that no one's thinking about.

1:13:45This wealth tax, Elon, Tom, is not going to be a state-by-state issue. You're going to see the wealth tax in 2028 will be a national issue. You're going to see candidates running on wealth tax for everybody. You know why? This is what they're trying to do, Vinny. Here's how it works. So let's just say you're an AOC. Let's say you're a Ro Khanna. Let's say you're a Pritzker. Take any of these candidates. And what are they noticing people are learning how to do? Hey, Rogan, you don't like California? I'm going to move to where? Austin, Texas. Elon goes to Austin. Hey, Ken Griffin, Chicago, we lost you.

1:14:23Going to where? Florida. Don't you think these liberal control high tax people are sitting around saying, guess what, guys? Don't worry about it. They're not going to leave your state. We're going to pass a national wealth tax. And they'll first start off with billionaires. Then they're going to come down to people over$100 million in net worth. Then they're going to come down to people over$10 million in net worth. They always target the top. demonize them, so easy to say, hey, we collected$4.5 trillion of money, which we did nothing with because government doesn't know what to do with the money.

1:14:55All they're going to do with the$4.5 trillion they raised, you know what they're going to be doing? Give more entitlement programs. Yes, of course. And so they're going to do more entitlement programs, which if they go that route, you know what will happen? Let me tell you what will happen. When I had the founder of CZ, CZ who ran not Coinbase. What is the competitor to Coinbase, Tom? CZ was running Binance,$110 billion guy. He comes, and I said, so where do you live? He says, well, I wouldn't move back to U.S. because the regulation is too crazy. I think he lives in Singapore. He lives in a few different places.

1:15:28You know what he told me? You know how many employees CZ has with Binance? 5 ,000 employees. I said, you're 5 ,000 employees. Where's your headquarters? We don't have one. What do you mean you don't have one? Oh, we're in 100-plus countries. What? Yeah, we have 5 ,000 employees in 100-plus countries, and he lives in Singapore, I think. If they go this next phase, Vinny, if they do, if they go this next phase, you're going to see billionaires and hectic millionaires start looking at different pockets to go to that's outside of U.S. FYI, you know where Frances Haugen lives right now? The person that was a whistleblower who was a, you know, Norton, California, Silicon Valley, J6 is bad.

1:16:13You know where she lives today? She lives in Puerto Rico. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Why do so many people live in Puerto Rico? Because they got the 420 tax. You only pay 4%. No state, no federal, no income. You save all of it. It's all yours. So you think there's not going to be. So if I'm a different country right now, you know what I'm thinking about? I'm thinking about this could happen the next 20 years, and I'm already creating an opportunity to get those people to come to me. There's a guy out there who does very good content, nomad capitalist, and he would talk about what countries people are getting a lot of, what do you call it, passports in, and he would talk about go get multiple passports in case something happens.

1:16:48So the point I'm making this story is the wealth tax is coming to you, and people like the CEO of United Airlines, can you pull out what his salary is? What does the United Airlines CEO make? What is his salary? United CEO salary. Look at this poor guy. This poor guy struggling financially. Aw. Made$32.3 million in salary last year with a$1.2 million base,$22 million in stock,$8 million in bonuses,$506 ,000 in other compensation. And he still can't find your luggage. Okay? United Airlines has the worst. Ten out of ten, the worst airline in losing luggage. Folks, don't travel with United if you're worried about losing your luggage.

1:17:32And the worst customer service. They'll even laugh at you after. They're like, what do you want me to do? We lost it. Go to a different airline. They don't give a shit. And you can feel culture comes from top to bottom. The best compliment I'll ever get when people come to the VOL conference and they'll say, man, I cannot believe how good they treat us. The people here treat me so good. It's the biggest pride because no one's more important to us than our customers. United doesn't have that. And by the way, he doesn't look at you that way as well as voters. Oh, we should go after the billionaires.

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1:21:06So this girl releases this story. Go ahead. Give your thoughts. No, because you touched on a really, really important point, which is that they do it under the guise of fairness, which is exactly the slippery slope. Stop losing people's emotions. But built on the platform of jealousy and envy. Uh-huh. That you're entitled to other people's money because they're doing better than you. They have this. You don't. Jealousy, envy. I need to make it fair for you. I'm here for you. So that's the entire game being played. And again, yeah, it's just a slippery slope to socialism. It's a playbook that dates back decades.

1:21:36Yeah, so if you want to play this one, Vinny, so Data Republican story comes out showing what happened with USAID and what their plans are and the level of civil unrest that they're planning on doing if Republicans win the midterms and if they win House and Senate. By the way, they're leaking this. I'll just let Vinny tell you what's going on here. Go for it, Vinny. Okay, so data Republican, and I believe this is a female from what I heard that's on X. It was going crazy. This, besides Ilhan Omar and everything, it boggles my mind, Pat, how this isn't the number one story of what's happening. So Data Republican, and by the way, released a bunch of all these audios and all these recordings showing former USID and State Department officials, Department of War officials, and the broad Soros NGO apparatus planning massive civil unrest aimed at the Trump administration if the Democrats win the midterms.

1:22:31OK, they're planning, guys, riots, embedding themselves inside of the DSA, Pat. And the DSA will, like, shock the troops because that's how they do. They go in there and they make it 10 times worse. Riots are going to be severe. And they say that the president, Pat, this is the plan, will invoke the Insurrection Act, send troops into cities. They're going to they're going to raise the stakes. All the pallets that we're talking about make the country burn. And then they're already working with governors and not only 10 swing states to like they sent them pamphlets, bro, to how to resist the federal government.

1:23:04And the overall goal is to delegitimize the federal government and elevate public support for resisting state governors. And they want to push this into the 2028 election. And I sent Connor a couple of these clips. One of these clips is, this is Danielle. Play the first one, guys. Just listen to this audio of what these people are planning to do. And then, Connor, I'm going to have you jump forward to the next one. Go ahead, play this and listen to this, Pat. There's also the past, and John, I think we'll talk a little bit more about this, is that we end up in a very acute legitimacy crisis sometime in the next few months in the next few years where literally our federal government becomes illegitimate.

1:23:48Look at what they're talking about. In that moment, I believe, and what we know from experiences around the world, is that we can take that breakdown moment and leverage it for a big structural reform, you know, refounding moment. Refounding moment. I want to just say that the United Democracy Alliance, which is a huge coalition of the blocking movement, the people that are doing all the lawsuits and the civil resistance and the non-cooperation, they are all organizing and converging under the banner of what's called the United Democracy Alliance. And they have developed a set of red lines that are now being refined in terms of indicators and metrics.

1:24:29And they're working on creating a situation room so that as we go into the midterm election, they're going to be able to provide real-time updates, real-time information to the movement of movements so that we can respond, you know, to whatever might unfold. And now fast forward. Mama, guys, these are unelected people that don't have jobs anymore with USAID, Pat. And USAID goes to different countries and starts, you know, uprisings and they take over governments. Color revolution. This is what, guys, they're planning to do this here. And then, yeah, Connor, if you could go to that next part. Pat, when I talk about the governors and stuff, listen to this part.

1:25:08And others are connected for that work. So what I think RAD is offering uniquely is this space around the constitutional legitimacy moment and, like, what are the ways that we can respond. The memo that Danielle or I will put up in the chat is a memo of an options memo that we created for governors. Because if the federal governments seem to be illegitimate by whatever crossing of whatever red lines and everyone agrees to that, then the governors become the leading governing authority under the current republic framework of our constitution. Okay, so Paul, listen to the plan that they're doing.

1:25:49They're saying midterms and all that stuff, Tom, if they want to delegitimize the federal government and they're already working with governors, governors to help with this uprising. So basically they're saying Trump invokes the Insurrection Act because they're causing all this madness. Then they have all these governors that they've already sent the memos out to. Connor, can you please show the tweet from it's like the memo already went out the tweet from from J.B. Pritzker, J.B. Pritzker. because mind you, Pat, the Washington Post, Tom, they ran a cover story revealing that the current, could you, yeah, so look at this.

1:26:22The Trump administration is on notice. Governors across this country, myself included, are watching closely. Any attempt to silence American voices will be met with fierce resistance from the states. We will defend our right to vote. What he's basically saying is, Elon, what Trump is saying, if you guys are going to have illegals trying to vote, and I'm going to send people to make sure that they're there, that's going to be a problem for them, for them saying it. And then the Washington Post, if you go to the Washington Post story, they published a story revealing that current and former national security officials have quietly been advising officials in about 10 states, what the other people were revealing, on how to respond to possible federal interference in the midterm.

1:27:01Look at this. This is a cover story, Pat, that the Washington Post put out there. So I'm just telling people this is called a color revolution. These are the guys behind the No Kings protest. These are the people that are the ones that put all the pallets. The BLM, everything, it's all organized. Even what you see going on globally. Right now what you see in France, what you see in Italy, is all part of the same globalist ideology. The United States is the strongest stronghold against that ideology, which is why it is the most under attack. This is a decades-old plan. You go back to Yuri Bezmenov, defected from Russia, talked about the ways you destroy society, and it's a decades-long plan.

1:27:39The first one, demoralization, takes 15 to 20 years, changed the perception of reality in the population. We have seen that happen with leftist ideals. They have become a worldwide structure of destroying basic reality-based common sense ideals. So a man can totally be a woman. We can kill as many babies as we want. Anyone who tells you anything, you know, that you disagree with, you should silence. Then you see destabilization, attacking key institutions like economy, foreign relations, and defense. We've seen that happen repeatedly now, too. We've seen the political powers, when they get power, come and attack those institutions, try and break down anything that can fight against them then crisis bring out about violent change of power structure and economy this is the most important part when we see blm riots when we see riots going on in france when we see riots happening around the world the immediate response from the average person is they want it to stop that's the natural response to seeing violence and chaos in the streets you don't actually care why it's happening as much you want it to end and you look for any power that can stop it it's actually a key metric in mass psychosis is that You create a situation of unrest and then a power comes in and tells you, hey, we can get rid of this uncomfortable feeling you're having.

1:28:47We saw during COVID, too. And then the last one is because of the need to stop that kind of violence, that uncomfortable feeling that you're having in society. What they do is they can change all the structures of society, which is the new normal, which is the last step on Yuri Bezmenov's list of how you change society. And so we're heading into that stage of civil unrest where people are just so uncomfortable with what they're seeing. and they've been pushing this for a long time. And then the new step after that is everything you're talking about. We are going to pack the courts. We are going to change the Constitution.

1:29:17We are going to get, you know, more power so that we can keep you guys safe and push you down that list so that they hold power forever. And that's the new normal. Tom, this is their playbook. And the playbook for patriots on the other side, you know, there is a quote that came out of Revolutionary Times. It was a tribute to Ben Franklin, and it's incorrectly attributed. The quote really was spawned in 1813, and it was, if we don't hang together, we will most assuredly hang separately. Apparently, Ben Franklin never said that. Thomas Paine never said that. It's always been credited. But the point is correct.

1:29:57We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. The concept is there. And the people that that I think they are waking up people that are true patriots. I think that's what's happening. They're waking them up because the one thing that you were always able to mean, look at what happened in the Soviet Union when they broke up the Soviet Union. Guess what happened? All the governors became prime ministers. Where do you think all the stands came from? They were part of the Soviet Union, and they all got broken up. And so the governors became leaders. But guess what?

1:30:33When you try to look at the state of the populace and what was the psychosis and mentality in the Soviet Union, it was not what you have in the United States. Let me tell you, the 77 million people that voted for Trump and had those red flags were not simply his disciples like Jesus Christ. They were freedom-loving patriots that saw a person that could enable what they wanted. And the left will have you believe that they were just a bunch of Trump disciples. No, they're not. They believe that if they stifle Trump, they push him back, they get something. No, they don't. Which you are left with, you are left with the freedom-loving patriot that is looking for the next lead.

1:31:15And mind you, great point. And these are the people, because for how many years we've been sitting there going, who are these people that are, you know, the people, the puppeteers? And by the way, it's these unelected. And by the way, you know how pissed they are that Doge took out USAID? I know Kara Swisher was like, it's because they're investigating. No, you freaking libtard. It's because of this. These are the people that are in actual control. And you should hear how brash. I'm not going to get into the other videos, Pat, but they sit there. They're saying their goal is to delegitimize the federal government.

1:31:46Okay? And then elevate public support for the state governors to come in. And she said some of the names. The insurrectionist groups she named are, and guys, I want you guys to remember these names. These are these people on these Zooms that nobody ever hears of. It's the Renewed to Thrive, United Democracy Alliance, National Security Leaders for America, and Horizons Project. These are the people that are going to be behind the 50501, Divisible, No Kings protests. these are the people that are secretly angry and they hate america and they feel pat it's liberate it's to save democracy but it's to overthrow the government and they have governors set up everywhere pat that are going to resist whatever the president is going to say with especially sending troops to these places because the civil unrest is going to be magnified by their people by their people so i want people to always just remember i'm saying this because that's their plan and they got exposed by data republicans soros and all those guys sources sources the one All these guys are behind it.

1:32:45Yeah. Okay, let's get to the next story. It's pretty wild what's going on, but I want to get to the next story. Next story is an interesting story of Bukele. So four Salvadorians who are from El Salvador go to Haiti on a humanitarian trip to help out some Haiti family members that are there. Then all of a sudden they're held hostage. And Bukele's like, wait, what are you doing? Yeah, you're holding my people hostage? Yeah, you're not going to be doing that. He sent his – can you go a little bit closer for me to read the story? So our kidnapped men are not combatants. They are aviation technicians who are part of our mission in Haiti within the framework of an international mission.

1:33:23Our mission consists only of pilots and technical personnel whose primary job is to carry out medical evacuations and save lives, not wage war, Bukele wrote. The four Salvadorians disappeared after gangs attacked their armored vehicle on Sunday in Santo area of Croix de Bouquet, Port Prince. They fled the vehicle after it caught fire. Bukele said that is why today we have launched a military operation to rescue them. We have a single objective to bring back our four compatriots back home alive without any harm. And he gave warning to gangs. However, I want you, the gang leaders, to understand one thing very clearly.

1:34:01Today's attack is nothing compared to what is coming if you do not get all four hostages back alive. And do not take our word for empty threats. But we have already finished with the Genks and El Salvador, and we can finish with you too. What an incredible position he takes. Your thoughts on what happened here? I absolutely love it. Is that the clip, by the way, of what happened? Play this clip. What is this? Can I read the description before you play the clip? Go to the top so I can read what the description is. So this is him giving a message. This is why today we have launch go a little bit lower.

1:34:39However, I want you to do not take my word for empty threats. We have already finished the jams. We still have time to avoid this. Return our four competitors alive without any harm, and everything will go back to how it was before. The decision is in your hands. Yeah, 100%. A good leader stands by his people. And I think he's the type of guy who's setting a precedent that you can't mess around and not have consequences. This is just random, but one thing that bothered me was when Hamas kidnapped American citizens. Forget the Israeli aspect. when the American citizens were kidnapped by a terrorist organization I didn't feel like we did enough to get back those Americans.

1:35:13We had Americans in the street tearing down the posters. That's always bothered me that's an identity problem in the United States we're seeing here the exact opposite response where he's willing to do whatever it takes to protect his citizens to get them back and he's making a statement to the world you mess with our people we're coming for you that's an important statement I love it. But hey, just the reform of the prisons and what he made what he did to the freaking country, bro, that is an actual leader that's respected on the global scale. He's the man. But how good do you feel knowing? And by the way, I think Trump is one of those people as well.

1:35:45I understand that the Israeli thing was, that's a very... Forget the Israelis. I'm talking about Americans. I feel like we didn't take care of our own people. And that's why, in the general sense, I think when it comes to Americans, Trump does not play that game. In that one instance, I kind of feel I'm with you on that one. But when it comes to Americans, bro, I feel good knowing if, God forbid, something under that leadership. Could you imagine if you were overseas and something happened to you under Biden? You think that guy even knows where the hell he is? Unless you're like some kind of diverse group.

1:36:15Of course, a transgender or something overseas. By the way, did you hear what Bukele said? Can you go on his Twitter account, the main one? Go back to it. Just click on his name right there. No, just go on. Yeah, here's what he said about France. I actually like what he's saying lately. I've heard it said that France has finished, that it's too late to save her. But France remains just as beautiful, inviolable even. Her greatness hasn't vanished. It only awaits rebirth. We overcame in one year a problem 100 times more severe without having the resources at France's disposal. France could manage in a week.

1:36:47Optimism. But obviously, this is the message you want, though. It's a powerful positive. But what I'm trying to say to you is we need more of this message. Yes. Positive change can happen. It will happen. You don't need people not believing that it's not going to happen because have to battle with your opponent what his job is, Vinny. Your job of your opponent is to convince you you can't beat him so you don't fight him because he knows you can beat him. That's the job of the opponent. An opponent who's weak, he sits there and he says, man, I don't know if these guys really know. They're stronger.

1:37:20They're better. Their ideas are better. My people are even flipping on me and they're siding with him. I hope they understand that. And then they'll get in front and say, none of the people believe them. And all they're going to do is cheat. Whatever they're doing to you, they're going to put. And then you all of a sudden are like, you know what? I don't think anything's going to happen. Oh, my God, we won. Without even going to war, they have given up. Listen to their language. That guy's a big influencer. 700 ,000 people listen to what he's got to say. He quit. Good. And these eight people listen to what he has to say.

1:37:52They each have 80 ,000 followers. They also quit. Oh, my God. So now we have 1.5 million people who quit on the idea that America is going to do anything and do the right thing. Awesome. Look at what she just said. She's now on our side. She just flipped 6.2 million people. Good. Look at, hey, go pay this guy some money. We're going to flip America. And in comes a handful of group of people that say, no, that's not how this works. This doesn't work this way. And it's very hard to have that kind of a message. So good for Bukele for standing. I teach what you just said in combatives. Sorry to tell you.

1:38:22and fighting. And the psychology of fighting, demoralization and making someone believe that they no longer have the power actually greatly affects their performance. So it's very... Half the battle is that, right? Psychological warfare is what that is. Let me get to the next story. Next story I'm going to go to. Weird story, folks. Have you ever been to New York, and maybe you went to Central Park, and you and your sweetheart, you're like, babe, let's go on the horse carriages and go through Central. It's a very unique experience that you go do, right? Very unique. I've got pictures of my wife.

1:38:51I'll try to find it and share it with you. Well, guess what New York is officially announcing after what happened there? New York City is deciding to ban horse-drawn carriages in 2028. Mamdani even commented on this, if you can find what Mamdani had to say, after an event that took place. Let me read this for the audience. So New York City horse-drawn carriages will be riding into a sunset less than two years after the city leaders voted Thursday to ban the practice following the death of an 18-year-old tourist who was killed during a ride in Central Park over the summer. The city council voted 40 to 7 over two absentations on Roman's law, which would prohibit the issues of new licenses used in the operations of horse-drawn cabs and phase out the carriages June 1, 2028.

1:39:36The horses would be prohibited from being sold to slaughterhouses under the bill. So there's multiple stories here. One of them is how many of the horses have a, you know, very difficult, so how many of them die because the situation is there? But this is what Mamdani had to say. The horse carriage industry is coming to an end in New York City. Our administration will make sure workers and owners are protected and the horses are safe. So I'll open it up. Tom, your thoughts on this story. I don't want to spend 10 minutes on this. I want to go fairly brief on this. Your thoughts on this story. Is this a good move or a bad move?

1:40:11It's bad. It's overreacting the wrong way. Let's go back and look at that. Can we go back and look at that? I wanted to break that down. Our administration makes sure workers, people that work for horse-drawn carriers and owners are protected. How? By putting them out of business. Ladies and gentlemen, this is how Mayor Z takes care of the. And so I think, look, if there's a problem, you know what? Why are there bumpers on cars? Why are there traffic lights? Because people saw problems, they fix it. Fix what's wrong. If you think the horses are being abused, then put standards for them. If there's a safety thing that led to the death of this 18-year-old, put something in place.

1:40:50That's not the nanny state. That's regulation. So I think if you're going to fix it, fix it. But putting it out of business and putting something like this that's been around for a long time. And by the way, if you have bad owners that are not taking care of their animals in situations like this, well, then shame on them and then regulate them. But don't put every owner and every worker out of business for the exception. Go take care of it. And the liberals are going to run and all the Greens and all the people that want to release them are going to run these pictures like this of this poor, injured animal here that could have been taken care of better.

1:41:24You know? And they use that to create all of the drama. And the reason you use this is a reason to go nuts on the other side. And by the way, so if you look at this, you know when this thing got started in New York? 1858. I was going to say 1900. 1858. 168-year-old industry that went through this. Annually, 42 million people visit New York City and Central Park. Central Park alone gets 42 million visitors. And when you go there, half the battle is to be able to. Do you have the picture of us on the horse? I don't know if you have it or not. Right there. Every year when we go there, we go to the Yankees.

1:42:00It's a great experience that you go there and you enjoy yourself. but there's ways to prevent it from having to shut it down. Give me a flip and break. Create certain ways to protect the tourists and the horses. Maybe give a certain level of requirements and compliance to do, but to shut down this incredible experience. You know what it really does? It takes that one additional experience of going to New York on your honeymoon. It's like, oh, we can't do that. No, they just shut it down two years ago. What are you talking about? Yes, they did. 168-year-old experience. They're shutting down. So anyways, that's that story with New York City.

1:42:34And we'll see what will happen. People are fighting it. Even the union right now is fighting it, saying you can't shut it down, you can't shut it down. They got a couple years before they shut this thing down. Next story I want to get to is the Yankees. Hal Steinbrenner, the owner of the Yankees, the managing director, comes out and he's been asked, so what's going to be happening? And everybody wants to know, does Cashman have his job? Does Boone have his job? Who's the new person that's coming in? Are you changing the trainers because the number of injuries that New York has, Yankees, they have a lot of praise.

1:43:06They keep getting injured. And maybe we don't have the – what are we changing about what's going on? Fans and enemies of the Yankees are watching to see what they're going to be doing. And I have to tell you, a lot of enemies are happy what Hal just did. A lot of enemies are happy what Hal just did. And here's what he had to say in the press conference. Go for it. Has Aaron Boone received the contract extension? I have not talked to Aaron about a contract extension, no. Would you like to give him one? That's something I would certainly consider. I would consider anything. We don't normally do extensions, as you well know.

1:43:39It's somewhat of a rarity for us. But all I can tell you right now, nothing has been discussed with him about that. We've had conversations about a number of different subjects, but that was not one of them. I don't think you can pin the season and the unacceptable end to it on Aaron. I don't think you can pin it on him based on the roster he put together. Again, the offense, not the pitching, but the offense had a big part of why we, in my opinion, why we didn't get, and I don't mind saying it, why we didn't get where we, you know, strive to get every year. And we're certainly striving to get this year.

1:44:15And that was during the whole year. You know, in the postseason, if you look at their performance against the two starting Boston pitchers and their performance against probably all the raised pitchers, it was just not good. I mean, I don't know how else to put it. and if you don't score runs, you're not going to win. We all know that. So, again, but yes, every year, including this year, we had a week-long conversation about Aaron Boone. You can pause it. And was he part of the – The last time the Yankees won, Tom, World Series, the all-time winningest organization in the history of baseball, Yankees.

1:44:5127 World Series championships, but they haven't won one since 2009. Do you think this is the right move that Hal Steinbrenner is making? I don't think so. and I'm not going to sit here and be an armchair quarterback on what Hal Steinbrenner saw in that room or what he decided to do. I'm going to talk about leadership in baseball and how those answers were not like strong leadership answers. Look at the way he says, get us where we want to go, get us where we want to be, where we think we should be. Hal, just say it. Our objective is with this organization and with this budget to win the World Series.

1:45:26We did not do that. And you have to hold somebody accountable and not just live on, I believe, affinity and relationships. Consider this. Who was the number one manager by plus minus this year? It was Terry Francona, plus 10 in Cincinnati, 10 more victories over what he thought he would get. You know what Aaron Boone ranked? Number 21. And if you take the GM ranked, now we're talking about Brian Cashman, among his peers in ranks and surveys. 2024, he was 18. 2025, he's 22. 2026, he's 27. He's averaging a rank of 24. Player development, Major League Baseball, what organization from the last three years, 2024, 2026, has the worst record, the highest injury rate of pitchers under 26?

1:46:14In other words, the guys you're bringing up, the flamethrowers that you're trying to teach them the slider, you're trying to move more breaking pitches, The Yankees had more injury days of anybody than under 2026. Then let's talk about this year, fielding. Yankees, 96 errors, 27 out of 30 teams in the majors, errors. And defensives, defensives runs against, middle of the pack. You've got the money to do this, and then you take a guy like David Wells. Here's a perfect example, I think, of the Yankees. David Wells is known as a stellar human being and a positive guy in the locker room and a strong influence on other team members.

1:46:56But he doesn't have the arm that the Yankees can afford. They should have some other arm there. Pat, you could steal second on David Wells with one ACL torn. It is impressive. And, by the way, he hit 186 this year. So it's like, and by the way, he's a good framer, you know, a framing caper. He's also a good blocker. That's good. But David Wells, a great guy, a guy in the locker room, everything there. Why are you keeping them? You've got the budget to do something else. All of this rests on Cashman. This is the general manager needs to put the team together, and then the manager needs to help the team prepare mentally to do their job.

1:47:40I went and looked around. You know who the best general manager of the last five years is said to be? A guy named Matt Arnold, who's doing with a bottom third payroll in Milwaukee and driving it. And the guy you really want, the guy you absolutely wish you could have, is a guy, you know who the best manager doing the most with the least over the last five years is? Not Dave Roberts. It's not Aaron Boone. It's some guy named Cash who's in Tampa, who was the catcher that couldn't hit. and turned himself into a player coach and a developer. And he is now absolutely heads and tails. Everybody said he's the best guy, but he's from Tampa.

1:48:23You're probably not going to get him out of Tampa. Really? So there's guys out there that the Yankees could go after. They could go after Matt Arnold, go after Chris Antonetti in Cleveland, go after Eric Neander. Eric Neander is not tied to Tampa the way Cash is tied. So it's like, how? Here you've got this going on. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. You simply haven't got the result. Terry Francona in his rookie year, what did he do in Boston? Terry Francona goes to Cincinnati. What does he do in Cincinnati? There are managers that bring teams together that motivate players and drive them forward.

1:49:01These players are not – this defense and this is what it is, that part is on Aaron Boone. The team he had to work with is also on Cashman. And then the state of the minor league system is on Cashman. So I look at it, and I'm like, a leader has to make a decision here. And I'm being quantitative. And I'm going to say this, and my Dodger fan friends are going to jump on me. A strong Yankees is important to baseball because it's just like a strong cowboy, a strong Green Bay. There are teams that are important because they're pillars of a league. And when they succeed, you may not like it, but it's good for the sport.

1:49:44Yeah, Tom, as a huge Yankees fan, my father, when he used to drive a bus in Yonkers, would sneak me to the game. Sometimes it'd be raining and we would watch the freaking Yankees, okay? I'm not one of the guys that just wears the hat and goes, no, no. It's been 17 years. You guys understand that? Imagine having a kid and now the kid's 17. Having zero. Okay, this comes from 27 championships. That this is the New York freaking Yankees. The most recognized hat, the pinstripe, the uniform, all that stuff. And you know what the standard never was, Pat? Well, at least we made the playoffs. Are you? What?

1:50:18That's the attitude? And now Hal Steinbrenner saying the majority of the blame isn't on Aaron Boone. I'm sorry. You're the manager. You're the skipper. Okay? And yes, you have to perform in the playoffs. Injuries killed us, Tom. I love how you said that. I think just the New York teams in general, from the Giants to the Yankees being the worst. Bro, every day somebody's hurt. Judge basically missed the entire season. Stan has been hurt more than anybody, and we're just blowing all those millions. I know we're stuck to his contract, but the manager still has to be the guy. You make the decisions, okay?

1:50:48And the season against Tampa, he makes a decision to put all lefties against the righties, which I understand. You've got to switch it up. It's not working. Who do you put it on? You put it on how? Boone or Cashman? Rank it. Cashman's on the top, Pat 70-30 Cashman 70-30 Cashman and then ready for this Cashman has been there since 98 he won four World Series championships for them hasn't won one since 09 since 09 but are you ready for this and then as the skipper as the manager as a freaking general on the field you let people like Jazz Chisholm having a freaking lollipop in his mouth during a couple of games and Boone said something about it if Hal if Steinbrenner, the father, was alive Do you think he would let that happen?

1:51:30No. Where's the pride? Where's the fear of losing your freaking job? Baggy-ass pants and just nonchalant, not giving a crap out. That drives me insane. The father, if your mustache was even further than this brother, he'd be like, no, go shave it off. Like, it was very clean cut. This is the Yankees. And CeCe Sabathia basically said the same thing. You don't know the old Yankee standard because the people that are around. CeCe put it on A-Rod Jeter because they're never at the stadium. They're never at the stadium. He says, back when we played Jackson, all the old-timers were there and we were expected to win.

1:52:03Absolutely. That expectation is not there. So CeCe put it on the player. On the player, exactly. Show up. Fans are not happy with Boone. The technical baseball fans are not happy with Cashman. Yep. The business owner type of mentality people are not happy with how because they're like, hey, drive the hell out of this. You haven't won since 2009. And you just had a clip. Which clip did you have? You had the George Steinbrenner clip and this one. Is this him? Okay, play this one real quick. So this is a man. Are you a graceful loser? No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I'm like a Yankee fan. My foot has gone through a number of television sets in my time.

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1:55:42You know what card just traded last week? I don't know if I can announce it or not. Well, I can say it, but I can't tell you who bought it. So the Mickey Mantle PSA 10 card, there's three of them. And one of them, the father passed away, and the kids were not fans of baseball cards like the father was. Do you know one of the three PSA 10 Mickey Mantle cards traded last week? Do you know for how much? For$50 million. Five-zero? Yeah, trust me, because I was involved. Anyways, for$50 million, and I was one of the five buyers that was looking at this card. Sold for$50 million. Do you know why that card was sold?

1:56:16Because the grandkids are not fans. Do you know when Mohammad Reza Pallavi is sitting here and we're all enamored by his son, not Mohammad Reza Pallavi Reza Pallavi And I asked him a question Do you feel like you get too much pressure? Like people expect you to be your father? He's like, yes Do you even want to go? No And then he changed And Hal maybe just It's too much unnecessary pressure for Hal And the organization just raised$2.6 billion with Apollo got a$16.25 billion valuation Great And it's not like Hal doesn't sit there approving the – they have the third highest budget, right? Number one is the Dodgers, two is Mets, three is them.

1:56:55So it's not like he doesn't want to spend the money to go get the players. Of course, he's not being cheap. And sometimes the problem becomes the following, Vinny. Sometimes if the team – and I don't know this. Sometimes the team, the people you have in your management team, they're your friends, and they become family. And eventually you're afraid to fire them because you have become friends with them for such a long time. and Hal in 1998. I don't know how old Hal is right now, but how old was Hal in 98? Can you type in Hal Steinbrenner's age? Hal has got to be in the mid to late 50s. He looks great, but I don't know how old he is.

1:57:27Can you go a little bit lower? Okay, he's 56 years old. Yeah. So how old was Hal in 1998? That's what, 28 years ago? He was 28 years old. So 28 years ago, when he was 28 years old, Cashman was the guy running it. So you almost look up to a guy like Cashman. So it is a tough thing to be able to do. But when you lose for that long, the right thing to do is to move on, in my opinion. And I'd like to be able to say more, but, you know, one day, you know, God willing, a yes-to point that we have. But anyways, this is extremely frustrating as a Yankees fan to see that happening. And, Tom, I know you want to say one final thing before we wrap up and move on to the next story.

1:58:03Go for it. This isn't just about the Yankees. This is about leadership and about leadership in sport. And once upon a time, there was a man named Chuck Knoll who is the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yep. And he won Super Bowl IX. Old school. Super Bowl IX, Super Bowl X, Super Bowl XIII, Super Bowl XIV. He missed 11 and 12. He won four Super Bowls in six years. And then add this up, 7-9, 6-10, 7-9, 5-11. That was four of his last six years. They hung on to him too long because they believed what he did all those years ago. And you can't do it in sports. Yeah, look at what the Steelers just did.

1:58:41Who did the Steelers just move on from? They then hired, by the way. The coach. The main coach. The main guy. Wait, what did they do? They hired Tomlin. And they restructured what they were doing because they stopped just believing in the past. And that's what the Yankees are doing with Cashman. The same thing that the Steelers did with Chuck Knoll. Hal, you're not alone. You know, I'm a Dodger fan, but I stood in Randy Levine's office because this man brought us to a wonderful thing. Had a great conversation about the glory of baseball, the importance of the Yankees. You need to make the hard decisions as a leader.

1:59:16All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I wanted to get to is three different men. All of them have a different set of issues. You ready for this one? This is going to be a very, very weird set of stories that we're going through. But I'm going to read the first. So we got a California man, a Virginia man, and a Florida man. Okay, let's start off with the California man. So a California man goes out there, claimed ICE snatched his wife. Police now says he killed her. So this guy blamed ICE for snatching his wife after investigation. the guy killed his own wife. Well, Vinny, tell us about the story of what this guy did.

1:59:52I think his name is Gurinder Gill, 28 years old, was arrested October 14 after investigations determined that human remains found in neighboring El Dorado County belonging to Jasmine Gill 30. The Sacramento County Sheriff's Office announced Jasmine Gill was last seen at the couple Sacramento home September 30th, and her cousin reported her missing on October 4th. During the initial inquiry, Gurinder allegedly told investigators that immigration and customs enforcement agents had taken his wife into custody while she was taking the mail. Sacramento detectives subsequently contacted ICE, said there's no enforcement had taken at the residence.

2:00:26Investigators then noticed several inconsistencies in the statements and learned the couple was in the middle of a divorce in child custody dispute. Jasmine Gill was registered nurse and a mother to an eight-month-old son. Her family described her in a GoFundMe campaign as daughter, sister, nurse, a mother who deserves so much more. Her relatives, she said, had been seeking a divorce to secure a safe, fresh start for herself and her baby. Vinny. Horrible, horrible, tragic story. But you know what? It's some of the people in the media and online were like ice and ice and ice. And they turned it to ice.

2:01:00And this is what happens when they make, when the left makes ice so demonized. They compare them to the Gestapo. They portray them. There's some evil kidnapping organization off the streets. and I keep hearing all these freaking podcasts of all these leftists saying, oh my God, it's the Gestapo families from Cuomo to all these guys acting as if they weren't doing their job. They had a mandate when Trump said we're going to get rid of the freaking illegals. We're going to get rid of them. And then when they started getting rid of them, it pissed me off because they backed down because two of these people were killed, God rest their soul, for trying to drive over one of them.

2:01:33And then the other nurse who was beating the shit out of a car and then holding a gun on his hip gets shot. okay this guy gets accused of murdering his wife and then they blame i said buddy thank god they did their due diligence because it could have easily been like yeah you know what let's find out and and look the other way okay and this is how toxic this rhetoric has become and while people on the left they push this narrative i haven't i haven't seen evidence that they were you know finding or looking for but it just it drives me insane that this is the scapegoat that you're having murderers think about that mentality that a murderer who killed his wife that has a freaking eight-month-old the first thing that comes to his head is you know what they're gonna believe me if i say it was ice and look how long it took them to actually say you know what let's find out what the hell's going oh they were in what if they didn't find out that they were in a fight that they were having marital problems he would have gotten away with it because it would have been oh it was a bit an ice situation i think it's ridiculous pat and it drives me nuts that they that ice is is looked at this horribly where you could blame them for murder and people believe it Can I go to the next story?

2:02:34Because maybe your nerves may change on the next one. So this next one. I mean, listen, I don't want people to get upset. Some people call this next one a hero. I'm not saying he is, but he could be a villain or a hero. But some people are saying this guy's a hero. Virginia man accused of duct taping wife on the chair so he could watch football. Okay. What game? I mean, that's pretty intense. Can you imagine, like, what game it is? So this man, you have to go a little bit deeper and say, why would somebody do such a thing? So police arrested Richmond, Virginia man after his wife reported him for binding her to a chair and putting her in the basement so he could watch football without interruption.

2:03:07To all the people that call this man a hero, shame on you. To all the men who call this man a hero, shame on you. Okay. Then police were called to the home of Terry Ward, 64 on Sunday, October 11th, and arrested the man charging with abduction and misdemeanor assault and battery against a family or household member for forcibly restraining his wife by duct taping her to a chair. in a couple's home. When I arrived on scene, the wife stated that her husband had tied her to a chair with tape in the basement. A police report reads, according to WTVR-TV, Terry stated that he did indeed tie her to his wife to a chair, so he wasn't denying it.

2:03:46He's not denying it. And placed her down in the basement. Officers also noted that the woman said she was trapped in the chair for nearly an hour and had bruises and contusions. Contusions? On her arms from being restrained. Ward told officers that he restrained his wife in a basement so he could watch the game. Okay, I'm not. Hold on. Because I'm laughing because look at his photo. He looks like a little mischievous guy. By the way, it's obviously not cool. We're not going in. Obviously, it's not cool. It's not cool. But could you imagine that something has to snap where you're like, listen. 40 years of.

2:04:23We're like, you and your stupid giants. and he's like, I'm telling you one day. One day we're not. But Tom, I'm just curious if one more word, Gladys. To the moon. If he's like, I'm just curious, was he in his mentality till halftime? Like if the cop, when the cop showed up, was like, listen, just give me to the two minute warning. Yeah, please. I need to make it through the game. It'd be funny if the cops were like, what the hell? And you hear her screaming and they're all like, okay. Wait, wait, have you ever seen the YouTube video where the house is on fire and the husband and the wife are outside and she's like oh my god my mother's downstairs and the guy's like yeah she's downstairs she's like you have to go rescue them and he's standing behind her he's like and the fireman's like she's like he's like yeah yeah go rescue and she's like yeah oh my god please he's like and then the cops go in and they go to rescue her and she's like on the floor as there's a fire on she's like you're really coming in here like that you're really gonna rescue me with it and then the house is burning down they're like we couldn't save her i'm sorry and he's like That's a sketch.

2:05:21It's a sketch on YouTube. It's hilarious. What do you think about this? I mean, Tom. See, I'm not married. First of all, like an important detail. How long have they been married to each other? That's what I want to know. Did they say a long time? It's got to be a very long time. Oh, Pat, look at his face. Look at that guy's face. I actually want to know how long have they been married to each other. Tom, your thoughts on the story. Well, this is a little personal for me. It happened at my house. What happened, Tom? My wife duct taped me to a chair. I was watching the Raiders. I was just freaking out, and she was worried I was going to hurt myself.

2:05:54Oh, okay. Because, you know, as a Raider fan all these years, that's where I ended up. So I got duct taped to a chair. Later, I realized she was really doing it to help. No, I think this is. One of Tom's jokes, folks. Go vote for it. No, no, it's a dad joke. It's a dad joke. I loved it. But it's a, by the way, Raider fans will understand. This year, we're losing games by three points, and we're coming up, baby. We're coming back. So I think what's here, this is a tale of two cities. One is we kind of laugh at the lunacy of a relationship. And thank God nobody was injured. She was bruised. Obviously, he was grabbing her.

2:06:31He was holding her down. Okay. On one hand, we see the lunacy of that. On the other hand, we see, unfortunately, all these people are nodding because they're like, man, I wish I could do that. I wish I could just – why can't I just handcuff my husband to the refrigerator and then I go sit in the other room in peace? It's kind of a lunacy about what you would want to do. I don't know what you're saying, Tom. What do you think about this? I told you what I think. I think it's the tale of two cities of America. What do you think about the husband duct taping the wife? You think like – You can't do that.

2:07:06You can't do that. Say it. You can't do – He's not a hero. No, he's not a hero. He's not a hero, Tom. Tom, before we started, kept bragging about what a hero he was. Making it clear to the audience. He is not a hero, but if he runs for office, he's got my vote. I have two questions. Two questions. A, does she stay with him? Number one. If you reported it. Okay, and now number two, if every time he opens up tape, does she go, huh? She's traumatized now. All he has to do is go, honey. Just the duct tape. You know what I want to see? I want to see the cops' faces when they come in and they're explaining, and the wife is saying, yeah, he really duct taped me just so he could watch football.

2:07:46Is this them? Is this really them? They look like a great couple. No, this is not them. Is that them? Connor? Is this a joke or is this them? That's the cops. Oh, my God, it's her? That's them younger. No. They've been together for a minute. This guy was when he got a brown star. Let the guy watch football. Dude, I can't believe her. He's a hero, guys. I'm back on the hero. Flipping. Bron star. He's a hero. Bron star better than hero. Can't watch a little bit of football. He was a captain. Look at the captain rank. Imagine how annoying he is. He fought in Desert Storm and cannot listen to her voice.

2:08:20He probably has tinnitus. And he's married to her. That's a purple heart right there. Well, let me get to that. That was not nice, Tom. But let me get to the next one. Let me get to the next one. The next one's a little bit crazy. Okay? Crazy. And the more you read it, you're like, there's no way this is true. Florida officer found a dead man. impersonated him for years and renovated his home, police say. And by the way, this is a cop. This is a cop we're talking about. And so he pays the credit card bills. He acts like the guy is still alive. Dennis West is his name. Was found, no relation to Delonte West, was found in his Florida home during a welfare check in July 22.

2:09:00Weeks later, one of his officers who discovered his body took possession of the property, unlawfully spent years renovating and impersonating him. According to investigators and police documents, Brian Lewis Sugrose, 35 years old, an officer with a Lauderhill Police Department, was arrested Tuesday on felony charges of official miscount, criminal use of a deceased person identification, criminal use of personal identification information, offense against a computer use, and unlawfully use of a two-way communication device. Sugrose presented himself to the medical examiner officer, West's friend.

2:09:30Though there is no indication that Sugrose knew West, He also told the office that West had no living family, which was untrue. Authorities said from August 2022 through February of 20, that's almost three years. He cleaned and repaired the property and paid taxes and utilities and West, and he claimed to spend at least$214 ,000 of his own money. A project manager contracted to replace the doors and windows in 2024, told police he had no idea West was dead, and recalled Sugro's telling him West was unavailable. Wow. By the way, hang on. Back up, back up, back up. One more paragraph. In sworn statements in court, Sir Girls maintain, I took possession of the property and acted because it was hazardous and I wanted to prevent criminal activity and people from squatting.

2:10:17So he became a squatter. Not really. He invested a quarter million dollars. Who gets to keep the upgrade? This is great. I need a squatter like that in my house who's going to come in. First of all, think about this. This is what goes through the cop's mind. This poor guy's gone. Apparently he's got no family. You know, this place ain't so bad. And he just kind of moves in and does it. First of all, somewhere, someplace, there's got to be an heir or a nephew or a grandchild, somebody out there that could have taken possession of this. And this is also— 30 years old, doesn't have a grandchild, so he's a younger guy.

2:10:50But here's what I feel bad about on this, is that, you know, somebody died alone and there wasn't even friends checking on him. That is tragic. And that I look at that and I'm like, wow, isn't that sad? It took years because there wasn't one friend, one clerk at a Starbucks used to see you every day. And what this talks about underlying, I'm going to go a different route here about the loss of community in America where we used to have people that cared about you. When I said I was going to run away and I'm walking down the street with like two books in my hand and it was in St. Louis, Missouri.

2:11:24And our neighbor goes the other way and he rolls down the window of his car and says, tell me where are you going? because I'm walking out of the neighborhood where the big street was, you know. Yeah, of course. And I said, I'm running away. And he said, stop right there. Get home and do your mom. And I'm calling her right now. Turn around and walk. Turn around and walk. He didn't get out of his car. But you know what? I listened to him. You want to know why? Because he had moral authority. He was a neighbor. He was my friend's father. And I turned around and walked back. That microcosm I take here, not one friend, not one family, nobody there.

2:11:55and a cop can basically move into the house after the dead guy's taken care of by the medical examiner and nobody knows, that's the tragedy. That there's no community left in America in so many ways. You know what pisses me off the most about this story? Beyond the historical angle here. Like when I say live, like it drives me crazy. The guy dies. You do all this stuff. You're paying the taxes. You're freaking, you know, his credit score probably went up. You paint the house baby blue. Like what type of psychotic, responsible cycle? What the, how ugly of a color are you going to paint the, but you had an opportunity here to go for it and you picked that color.

2:12:35Unbelievable. I think it's disgusting. Well, I think Tom actually touched on something I didn't even think about, which is tragic and it is happening in America. There is a breakdown of community and people are alone more and more and more. It's leading to higher rates of depression. I spend time in Portugal every year and I find like there, just the short amount of time I spend there, people are involved in my life. You walk outside and people talk to each other. So that's something that would be nice to bring back. I do find this story. This is going to sound crazy. Anywhere else in the country, I would have said this is completely insane.

2:13:02Florida doesn't even make my top ten list of this week for what's going on. But where is his neighbor? There's like a crocodile that ate somebody that got pregnant. He's a cop guy. That's what I'm saying. He's Lord of course. Florida cop. We're moving. We're moving beyond Florida man to Florida cop. You didn't think like you're – like what are you doing? There's a timeline on that. You're not going to be able to do that for 20, 30 years. But, Pat, three years is a – guys, after year one, you know, he's like, oh, I'm Gucci. I'm golden. No one's coming for it. Not one neighbor was like, hey, where's – what's his name?

2:13:33Like, who are you? And he's like, no, I'm a cousin. I'm a cop. Yeah, yeah. Leave me alone. Not one, like, hey, can we borrow some sugar? Can we do something? Like, that – and that just goes to show you about the level of people. Like, because I think he got – because the body is gone and they – Well, they found the body. There's a whole thing in my head that I'm trying to figure out. They find the body. He's obviously the body. He has a cardiac something. He's gone. He just grabs mail. He was like, oh, this is a nice house. By the way, go take a look at what he was doing. The police were called to what's called a welfare check.

2:14:02He was called to a welfare check. Who called for the welfare check? Aunt Louise from Iowa City, Iowa or something? No. Well, it could. A lot of these, like, so there's, like, food plant services that come by and every week deliver food to people. Okay, so here's a question for you. Maybe this is a weird question to ask. How long can you go missing and not talking to the top ten people on your friend and family list until people say what happened to you? Honestly, like I want you to think your life. How many days can you go and not like me? Me and you? You? No. Think about how long. I can guarantee you in the two hours I've been here, my phone's off.

2:14:43People have been checking on me. Where are you at? What are you doing? Wait, hold on. How about how long? I got an assessment. If I don't hear from you for how many days? What do you mean days, Pat? How many days? You're sending me text question marks after five minutes. Literally hours. I'm not even joking. In this room, it's hours. You're minutes. You're 30 minutes. The fact that this guy for three years lives in the place, was this guy like part of the Delta Force? Was he CIA? Was he a low-key Mossad agent that no one's checking on him? Who was he for three years for your own family, cousins, brothers, sisters, girlfriend, exes, enemies?

2:15:16Nobody. No one? Even you have a home, you're working. There has to be some kind of engagement. 48 hours over a weekend. Like if you said, hey, I'm going to go L.A. see my mom. And 48 hours over a weekend, and I notice, hey, you know what? It's Sunday. I didn't even get one tweet from Vinny. I know he's in L.A. with his mom. Why didn't I get one tweet from him for a Monday podcast? So that would be the maximum. Yeah. Maximum. There are people who just have no one in their life. That's lonely. It doesn't make sense. My mom, after six hours, would be like, So then let's do this. Let's do this. Let's go to the last story and we'll wrap up.

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2:18:29All the other guys to his right, he's the example. And he's... I'm practicing. During the national anthem. That's what he's doing, okay? So, anyways, you can pause this here. The president reacts to it. If you can get the clip that I sent you earlier, this is what the president had to say about it. Watch this. About LeBron James, did you see that deal? No, he's doing... During the national anthem, he's practicing his golf swing. he's practicing. So what the hell is that? No, it's a big scandal kind of a story. What's it all about? I don't understand it. I don't understand it. We conducted large numbers of military.

2:19:16Okay. So he says this and then LeBron's being asked about it. And here's what LeBron had to say. Go for it. How do you feel with the fact that Trump again tried to take shots at you? Say that again? Unrelated to the game. How do you feel again that Trump tried to take shots at you at his speech tonight while you were playing as well? Yeah. Yeah. It must be a slow news day at the office you know slow news day in the office no no so it's no so why does it piss you off number one because it's not even a what you saw with like uh kaepernick back in the day all like the i'm gonna sit down for the this is even one step further it's a total disregard it's like it's like almost it's not even protest it's just an f you to everyone essentially who cares about this country like you can't even acknowledge it's not even a form of protest it's just i don't even care.

2:20:01I'm above all of this. I'm better than this. It just reads like it's super disgusting to me. Could it be somebody make the argument of a LeBron fan saying he was so locked in and that's what it was. He wouldn't do it on purpose to make fun of the national anthem. Some LeBron supporters may say that. What do you say to that? I don't buy it. You don't buy it. Okay, because let me show you two different things. So this is him. He didn't walk off. He didn't sit down. He didn't kneel. He just practiced a swing. But the WNBA championship game, when it's taking place, the moment it comes to singing a national anthem, this is what the WNBA players actually did.

2:20:31So there's two differences. One, he stays, he's practicing, he doesn't sit down. These guys, look what these ladies do. Go for it. Ladies and men, ladies do.

2:20:43They leave the court. Yes, as an obvious sign of protest. Alanis Morissette sings the national anthem, and then they come back in. So, do you consider both the same level of insult? They're fundamentally different kinds of insults. Tell me what you mean by that. One is an obvious sign of protest, which I still disagree with. I think, number one, people are tired of politics and sports. They're tired of politics and entertainment, I think, and all this stuff. But one is an obvious, I have a problem with the current administration or I have a problem with something specific. I'm going to leave and make that demonstration, which I still disagree with.

2:21:18Then you have LeBron, which if you said if it's just absolute disregard, that on many levels is almost worse because it just shows that you're just so detached from what our country stands for and what our country does that they read differently to me. But they're both offensively. Here's my question. WNBA, what are they – there's no BLM. There's no nothing. What are you guys protesting that the world hates you? Wasn't there something also with, like, trans rights? Yeah, but by the way, and that's Cantor tried to go yesterday to a sign, paid for a seat. They wouldn't let him into the arena. He had a t-shirt that said, by the way, what is a woman or whatever.

2:21:56And by the way, this is the W. How many times is this? Do they disgust me, number one? This league, like with everything that's happening, you're hemorrhaging money and all this freaking stuff. Did anybody here know that the finals for the WNBA was even happening? No. The Atlanta Dream and the Golden State Valkyries. I can't name one team. I just read it out loud. I don't even know. Okay, but they have a rule book. Did you know this, Matt? WNBA and the NBA have a rule book, Tom, that says, and they quote, players, coaches, trainers are to stand and line up in a dignified posture along the sideline or on the foul line during the playing of the national anthem.

2:22:38Okay, that's why I have a problem. Okay, respect the freaking anthem. That's what you're supposed to do. People are buying tickets. Show some respect for the country that gave you this freaking opportunity where you're playing an inconsequential game. you playing a putting a ball in a hoop doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of this freaking world you know what i would do pat and you said at the beginning before we started you you want to do this nonsense you're going to be fined do it again you're going to be suspended 100 and if you're the commissioner where's your freaking backbone why aren't you enforcing a rule that we didn't make it up that's your rule and i'm sick of these athletes trying to act like they're freaking loyalty and to lebron james not to cut you off elon you know why he disgusts me you're one of the reasons, LeBron, that the NBA is going downhill, okay?

2:23:22Because of you. And until he retires, it's not going to go up. And this one makes it even worse for LeBron. Great point that I told Pat yesterday. You play for the 76ers. You know why they're called the 76ers? 1976, Philadelphia, the city where the Declaration of Independence was adopted. And LeBron, you were born in Akron, Ohio. He had a, you know, childhood, whatever, with his dad and his mom. If he was born somewhere out of this country If he was born in Sudan Some poor country You think anybody would know who LeBron James is? No! You were born here This freaking amazing country gave you the opportunity He made how much?

2:23:56$580 million NBA salary More than a billion in endorsement Forbes estimate worth$1.4 billion You became the first active NBA player in history To become a billionaire But when the national anthem is on You know what that's saying to me? He knows the world is watching He knows everybody there is going to talk about it. That shows to me, this isn't the first time he's done it, by the way. He did this last year as well. I don't give a damn about this. A hundred percent. He has the attitude of Michelle Obama, Barack Obama, and this place sucks. But Vinny, it's the exact identity breakdown of America that we've been talking about.

2:24:29It comes through entertainment. It comes through sports. It's all on some level by design that these people have been convinced that this is what they can do and should do. So, again, I think it's a much bigger problem. It is all part of that globalist ideal. people do look up to LeBron James. People do look up to these people. I'm not a big idol, what, Tom? Because I'm pissed off, Tom, because men and women died defending the freedom that allowed you to be you, LeBron James. So I have a different take. If I was president, I would pick up one of those groovy pens, and I would do the following.

2:25:01Okay, you want to run a private business enterprise, conduct it the way you want to privately. You want to have the public buying tickets to your private business? Okay, the public can buy or not buy tickets. And if you're not going to sing the national anthem, you're going to create an issue. But if you're sitting in a stadium that was in part built with public money, where there was tax breaks given to that stadium, there were loans given to that stadium from the cities, Excuse me. All of that money leads back to Pat, the taxpayers, the taxpayers of the United States of America and of that state.

2:25:43So we'll do it this way. You get to give up all your any trust exemptions. So you negotiate broadcast rights. There's stacks of laws and a Supreme Court justice case on free agency. Bowie Kuhn versus Kurt Flood. Kurt Flood won. And they also found a little loophole said doesn't apply to the NFL. So all the leagues have been getting all of their sundaes with whipped cream and nuts on the top in the form of exemptions. You can do whatever you want. No more exemptions. And find a way to pay for that stadium so it's not being paid with taxpayer money and you don't have a tax break at the arms of the taxpayers.

2:26:24Give up all that. Now do whatever the hell you want. Have your people do what they want. Wear swastikas for all I care. and see if somebody will buy tickets. But if you're going to sit there and do this, one is systemic. The WNBA is systemically allowing the procedure to be teams off the court, teams come back. LeBron James is, what, fourth best player in NBA history behind, you know, Jordan and Kobe and Wilt. So you're here, this long-term pillar, and yet you're going to go and do this? Come on, dude. You can't see what's there. You don't have the same attitude that Jordan had that said, I got my feelings, but Republicans buy shoes too.

2:27:06But on the systemic level, that really pisses me off. On the individual level, it just disappoints me, and I will never – nobody I know will buy his jersey or support him personally. And that's a choice I can make because I'm a consumer. I can take this product. I can take that product. But systemic pisses me off. Yeah, no question about it. Okay, gang, hope you enjoyed today's podcast, and you hope you have a good weekend. I think we're going to do Monday, again, home team, and we've got a couple surprise of interviews that will be launched. Monday, I've got a couple very weird people coming down here.

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