DSA Wins in Florida, Trump Approval Falls to 33%, & NY ISIS Attack Thwarted | PBD #847

0:01Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so excited. It tastes sweet, but sweet. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed. It's right here. You are a one-on-one? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

0:26Very rarely does Vinny reveal things about him that nobody else knows. He just said something. Are you okay if I tell everybody? That's fine. Vinny was kicked out of an online university. DeVry. DeVry. That's how you get kicked because of harassment. What was it? I don't even have such a long story. They're still litigating. How do you get kicked out of an online university? Control-Alt-Delete. I understand it physically you're somewhere, but I do. I try to control-Alt-Delete and it just wasn't. By the way, just so you know, in about three seconds, Tom's going to tell us a joke. Here's the graceful impact.

0:54I want everybody to be ready for it. Hang on. So Tom's wearing a sticker saying, I voted. Just so everybody knows, Tom voted. But it's too late because it was two days ago, three days ago. No, that's okay. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I'm from California, and I haven't stopped voting. Got it. Okay, that's a good point. That was not a bad joke. So we got – that's a four. That's a four or five. I think it's okay. For Tom? Yes. That was a nine. Look, we got – it's the end of the week. Lots to discuss. Thank you, Adam. You know, we have John Doyle here with us from the Blaze. Great to have you here with us.

1:24Yeah, thank you for having me. Yes. Our team, they're like, Pat, we got to get John on. He does a very good job, so you got a lot of fans here in the house. You missed it. Adam was kind of trying to punk a little bit because Adam feels like the old man. He misses being 26, 27 years old. The good old days, 30 years ago when Adam was in his 20s. I just turned 40 again. So let's go. Every time. Yeah, yeah. Let's go through some of the stories that we got. All right, let's go through some of the stories. One story here we have to talk about. $25 minimum wage could eliminate 5 million U.S. jobs, economists warns, and there are certain states that would get hit by it more than others.

2:04This Army unit, think about what a creative way to get people to reenlist for an additional two to six years. Hey, if between August and November you reenlist, will give you a four-day weekend to play as much Grand Theft Auto 6 as you want. Sign me up right now. It's a donza. We'll give you four days for six years of your life. And already 130 people re-enlisted. Can you imagine it's like I'll re-enlist just to play, so they're doing creative stuff over there. Good. A Democratic Socialist won in the great state of Florida. People are shell-shocked. How did this girl, Angie Dixon, score Socialist Breakthrough in Trump's Florida?

2:40That's a great title by Axios. Bernie Sanders came on on one of the Zooms to kind of endorse and sell her up, you know, and then all of a sudden he wasn't on it. So we'll talk about that. Eric Swalwell is just having a really great time the last couple of months. All the stories about him are very complimentary and no crime, no, you know, doing anything with the Christine Fang Chinese spy bomb, you know. But there's additional stories that are coming up that could get very, very nasty. We'll talk about that. Trump's approval rating plummets to new low ahead of critical midterms. More work to do.

3:11That's a Fox News headline that I just read to you. So we'll address that. And then there's something that happened with Trump sounding alarm on crazy Iran saying regime would use nuclear weapon without hesitation. A lot of people are saying, look, why are we going back to this? Do we want to continue going this direction? And Tom's got some thoughts on that. And then a few other stories. This Harvard story is a little weird. Harvard agrees to pay$53 million after morgue managers sold body parts. Like you read that, you're like, is that a real story? That can be a real story. It's an absolutely real story.

3:43But it's a real story. Okay. You can't make this up. Sean Duffy warns daughters, Harvard corrupts girls like her. We'll get into that. Sophie Cunningham hints at WNBA commission shakeup as she goes after Kathy Engelbert. Very weird on the way she did it. Tupac's murder trial is taking place. And there used to be a rumor back in the days that, you know, they took his ashes and they rolled it up and they smoked it. and I was like, yeah, but that's a rumor. That's just good for hip-hop rumor. Apparently, it really did happen. Apparently. So we'll talk about that in a couple different things with Keith F.D.

4:20telling detectives. His nephew shot Tupac in 1996. We'll address that. Tom's heavily following the Tupac case. And then aside from that, I think we got a couple other stories that we'll try to get. This one lady, you know, we had a researcher that told us something and I don't even know if that's appropriate to say, but he said this. and he said there's only one person that looks better in a burqa than this and this person being one of them because a white woman becomes a Muslim and she joins ISIS apparently. Yep. And then she goes and gets arrested, allegedly plotting New York State Capitol attack and this is an ABC News story.

4:57And this is a true story, Vinny. And wait till you see what she wore and where she was going to buy her bomb-making material. She's your type, though. She's so hot. I'm not going to lie. She's hot. All right. How do you tell which one's the wife? Karen Bass and Nithya Raman had a moment of an exchange going back and forth. And Karen Bass says, are you sending your resignation? Is that what you're doing? And she's like, she has the second lowest show rate of showing up. And all these other women also have kids. You have to see this exchange. It's a great exchange. And then I found a clip from Pep, coach, who is one of the greatest coaches of all time.

5:34Some will say he's the greatest coach of all time. He talks about passion in a way to his players where they catch the camera from the bottom of one of his players. You've got to see this clip. It's such a beautiful clip. It's emotional, but it's such a beautiful clip to show of what it takes to win at the highest level. We will show that as well. With that being said, we are one week away, 10 days away from the Vol Conference. If you haven't yet registered, this is your last chance. Team in the back, go ahead and play the clip. Do you know on average how many people you and I meet in our lifetime?

6:04According to a study, the number is 80 ,000 people that we meet in our lifetime. By the way, according to business professionals, 80 % of them said the most important thing I can do for my business and my career is networking. And only about one of four do it. So why is this important? Since 21 years old, I've gone to four to ten business conferences every year. Purely because of the people I'm going to meet and the strategies I'm going to take away. So for us, once a year we host a conference called the Vault Conference. We're in one room, not 80 ,000, but 12 ,000 people will be in one room from 60 plus countries going through a 296 page manual together at the VOL conference, August 31st through September 3rd at MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas.

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7:20Let's spend four days together in Las Vegas, August 31st through September 3rd. With that being said, let's get right into it. Okay, first story. $25 minimum wage could eliminate 5 million U.S. jobs and economist warrants. Now, some may say, how? How could we eliminate 5 million jobs if we go from$7.25 to$25? Don't you help people out? Isn't that a good thing that people make more money? Isn't that good? Corporate profits, all these guys are making all this money. What's wrong with taking people from$7.25 to$25 an hour? And here's what the story says. A federal$25 minimum wage mandate would destroy millions of jobs and hit booming sunbelt states hardest, warned Rebecca Paxton, researcher director at the Conservative Employment Policies Institute, which projects over 5 million jobs lost nationwide.

8:08Progressive lawmakers won$25 floor by 2031 for large employers and elimination of the tip credits. Some of the top states that are going to be impacted by the$25 minimum wage include Texas, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Tennessee. See, these states have a massive workforce. They are currently abiding by the$7.25 minimum wage rate. So a$25 minimum wage represents more than tripling the current minimum wage. More than a third of projected losses fall on a restaurant hospitality, include a$1.2 million tipped workers, one fair wage, part of the coalition pushing the floor disagreed. We're seeing so many MAGA voters excited about a$25 minimum wage, said President Saru Jayarman.

8:52The group said one job should be enough to live on, called the EPI projection inconsistent with decades of minimum wage research. Cited UC Berkeley economist Michael Reich finding phased increase raises incomes with a literal effect on employment. The federal minimum wage sat at$7.25 since 2009. So, Tom, the argument would be since 2009, that's 17 years, till today it's$7.25. Isn't it time we raised the minimum wage? The argument on the other side, the libertarian side, is let the market decide. What does Tom say? Here's what I say. I have two points on this. The first is you have to be careful about the liberals that are there and the socialists because in there you find a code.

9:33And what the code is is that every job should be a living wage. I mean, that's what Wang said when he came out and he ran for president. We actually had him on the podcast. Andrew, right? Yang. Yang, not Wang. Yang with a Y. Yeah. Yang. It's not the same thing. It's not the Yang. No, no, it's not. Yang Yang. Sorry. Insert bad joke here. The I'm glad you held back. Yeah, I did. So they're out there talking about living wage, right, that everything needs to be a living wage. Bernie talks about it. Andrew Wang's brother, Andrew Yang, he talked about it. You know, they've all talked about it and they're in code.

10:05So whenever they bring up minimum wage, they see that as a door to run in and to push that angle. However, the fact that it hasn't risen since a certain amount of time, you know, as soon as you open the door, the reason it hasn't risen is because the capitalists and a lot of the people in government, you know, say, listen, once you turn that and they give the government a knob to turn, what do they do? They turn it. And so, OK, we raise the minimum wage here and they say they're going to sweep in and the socialist side of the Democratic Party is just going to turn that knob and take it all the way to 25 or 30.

10:41because they believe every job should be a minimoid job. Well, you know, that's my point. My point is you can't go down that path. And as soon as you say, isn't it time to change it versus letting the market decide? You've now walked right through the door to have a negotiated discussion on the floor of Congress about it. And guess where you're going to end up? You're going to end up with all the crazies on the left pushing for the living wage as soon as you open the door and say I'm willing to talk about it. So, John, you're in your 20s. So a lot of your friends, I'm sure when they're talking about affordability, getting married, having kids, buying a house, maybe this is a good idea.

11:15Where do you stand as a 20-something-year-old, 26, 27-year-old? Should they raise the minimum wage to$25 an hour? No, absolutely not. I even remember this conversation during Bernie's first campaign for president when I was 16 or 17. I was taking econ in high school, and I remember thinking, okay, here we go. I'm going to learn all about why minimum wage rising is actually a good thing. And they taught it straight. They were like, look, we may be teaching you Keynesian economics, but we still believe that when you raise the price of labor, you're going to see, obviously, a decrease in the jobs available because that's just how it works.

11:44And so seeing so many young people still embrace this, even though we are taught this, it's all the other liberal stuff you learn in public school, tells me that, obviously, whatever's going on with affordability is striking people so much that they're anxious enough to ignore even what they know to be true about how minimum wage laws affect the supply of available jobs. And I think that the Trump administration has done a decent job trying to address these affordability issues with people like J.D. Vance articulating things like homeownership, wanting to bring back jobs domestically. But insofar as there is that issue with affordability, if Democrats and socialists can exploit that for political gain, they're obviously going to do it every time.

12:19And they seem like they're doing it and making a lot of progress. I mean, you saw a socialist yesterday win the primary or two days ago in Florida. Adam, your thoughts, the minimum wage,$25. If you just want to understand how minimum wage works and how math works, take the minimum wage,$25 an hour, times it by two. That means you're making$50 ,000 a year. Okay? So if you want to start everybody out at$50 ,000, we're going to have a major problem. I know you've told the story you worked at Haagen-Dazs for$4 an hour. I worked for$10 an hour at one point. At some point, we're going to have to realize if you start everyone at$50 ,000, that means that everyone is going to be making$80 ,000,$100 ,000.

12:55So you might be saying, that's great. We're all making more money. that means everything's going to cost more. So right now, this is federal minimum wage, just to be clear, right? Right now, it's state minimum wage. I think the highest states are obviously the big blue states, California, New York, Hawaii. It's$17 an hour. But then you have states, like I think Florida is maybe 12. You have certain states, lower economic states, Mississippi, Alabama, where it's closer to the federal minimum, which is$7 an hour. If you make a federal minimum wage of$25 an hour, that means every single state is going to be basically firing employees left and right because they can't keep up.

13:34So here's the biggest challenge I have. And a time where we're basically seeing that AI is going to take over and put unemployment, which is at 4%, which is pretty damn good right now, historically pretty damn low. All of a sudden, AI is going to put people out of the workforce. Now businesses can't pay their employees a reasonable wage. They're going to fire everybody. And there's a major, major challenge with even talking about someone like this. Yeah, so you hear different angles with this. Some want to blanket$25 minimum wage across the board for everybody. Some are saying$25 minimum wage if you work for a big company.

14:06So not a smaller company. So then they're going to identify. Because if you do it blanket across the board for all the big companies, every small company, the big companies are going to sit there and say, absolutely, raise the minimum wage to$25. Why do you say that? because, so let's just say I'm doing$2 billion a year, and I have 80 competitors around me that are smaller than me. I'm the behemoth$2 billion. They're all under$100 million, or let's just say they're, yeah, let's just say they're under$100 million, between$10 million to$100 million in top-line revenue. They collectively do$4 billion a year, but I'm the behemoth guy that's$2 billion a year, okay?

14:43They all of a sudden, when I go buy products, I can buy 50 ,000 pieces of this product, and he'll sell it to me at$2, He can only buy 5 ,000 of those products at$6. I'm getting a better discount because I'm buying volume. No problem. So he has a bigger profit margin to be able to afford to pay higher salary. All of a sudden, he goes to$25 an hour. All the other guys that are at a lower money, minimum wage, they go out of business. I don't know what just happened, if you know what happens. These businesses, 10 to 100 million that go out of business, that revenue rolls up to who? The$2 billion company all of a sudden becomes$3.1 billion.

15:20and they're like, what a freaking great idea. Absolutely raise the minimum wage to$25. We love it. They want that, right? The bigger companies would love seeing something like this happen, but they don't realize they're going to hurt the small business owner. Do I think they need to raise it or not? That's a different conversation to have. By the way, when a lot of people say$725, only about 82 ,000 people got paid$725 an hour last year. That's it. Only 82 ,000 people. And guess what the average age of those 82 ,000 people were? Probably teenagers. Yeah, and FYI, if you're making$7.25 and you're 30 years old, you're the problem.

15:56Correct. Not the person paying you that. If the value you only bring to the world by the age of 30 is$7.25, what the hell did you do with 30 years of your life? Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not talking about disability. I'm not talking about all. That's not what I'm, when I go to Walmart and I see them having hired certain people that have disabilities, I salute the company every time because that's respect that they're willing to do that. I'm not talking about the exception. I'm talking about the other 95 % that by 30, you're making$7.25. You're part of the problem. Go pick up a book. Go take a class.

16:25Go learn something. There's so many things available for us to find to improve our market value today. And I think a lot of the onus goes on them. I got a message yesterday. Look at this DM. Guy sends me a DM. Every time I get these DMs, cracks me up. Guy says, hey, can you send me$1 ,000? Euro. I said, if you send me$5 ,000 first. He says, very businessman of you. You miss 100 % of the shots you don't take. I said, stop begging and create value instead. Building a fake bot account to beg people for money is not only unattractive, but semi-criminal. Be useful. He says, was having a joke. Geez.

17:01I said, life is not a joke. Stop wasting your life. I mean, this is like a real thing that we got going on. Make yourself useful. Some people say, why do you have a 20-something-year-old on the podcast? The number one guy that has the biggest YouTube channels in his 20s. What's his name? Mr. Beast. Nobody cares about age nowadays. They care about value. Nobody does. Yesterday I was doing the, what do you call it when you go to school to meet the kids' teachers? What do they call that? Parent-teacher comedy. Parent-teacher. And it's also open house night to kick off the new year. Okay, so I went to school yesterday.

17:31And by the way, I had no idea. We didn't do this in our high school. Our oldest has eight classes, and it's 90 minutes of class. We didn't do 90 minutes of class. It was 50 minutes of class in L.A. Did you experience 90 minutes of class? 72. 72. Yeah, so what is this 90-minute thing? I'm not – so anyway, so they do a class every other day. So you have four classes every day, but it's 90 minutes. Then another four classes the next day, it's 90 minutes, and they kind of rotate and they call it an orange day, whatever. They give it different colors. A schedule, B schedule, yeah. So I went and met the teachers yesterday, and one teacher who was the history teacher, he's like, listen, the book I have here, your kids are going to be bored out of their minds.

18:06They're not going to like this book. Me and Jen look at each other. We're like this. You have any idea that Tico reads that book for hobby and he's in love with the book that they've given him? He's going to love this history class. I came out at the end, I'm like, I freaking love these teachers. The idea of learning, we were, one lady was from Siberia, said, I learned English in Siberia, I came to the States, I've been a professor for 22 years, she's got a YouTube channel with 2200 subscribers. You've got to get obsessed with learning, you've got to get excited about this phase of what you need to do.

18:33Last clip I'll show you before we get to the next article is the following. Can you play that clip of Coach Pep Guardia, you know which one it is that I said, I want you to watch this here. And by the way, this applies to all of us. This is not just, you know, sports. Who's this coach? Pep Guardiola is known, Guardiola, is known as, some people would call him, the greatest coach of all time. This guy's coached Messi. He's coached a great one. Oh, he's a soccer coach. Dude, this guy, let me tell you, legend. We were trying to get him at the vault this year, if not last year. We invited him both times, and both times he had a game, or else we would have had him at the vault.

19:08The mindset this guy has and what he's done, he's loved, admired, and respected. Look what he says yesterday. Go for it. I'm fucking divorced from the most beautiful woman in your planet, my wife, my ex-wife. I love her unbelievably, but we lost her passion. For many reasons, we lost her passion. I love her, yeah, absolutely. She loved me, yeah, but we lost her passion. How do you play football? Because you're playing or something inside? What is her passion? In your life, whatever you're going to do, do it with passion. I don't want to play it. Oh, please, please, please. I'm fired up to do this podcast right now.

19:45This is why people love, love playing for this guy. Love. And the passion thing applies in your business, in your marriage, in parenting, in your health, in your studying, in being a student, in faith, in every aspect of your life. So the minimum wage argument is, look, we want you to make$100 an hour. We want to help you make$1 ,000 an hour. We want you to get past the$25 an hour concept. But unfortunately, they're having these types of conversations. You need to earn it, though. You need to go out there and learn and earn it. You need to do your part to get to a point like that. Tom, I'll give you the final thoughts, and I'm going to the next floor.

20:19Give you the final point. We're talking about$25 minimum wage. It was a$15 minimum wage we were talking about in 2019, and that's what Bloomberg talked about. Forbes magazine wrote about it at that time, and HR executive wrote about it at that time. The pace of adoption of kiosks and fast food accelerated 3x starting in 2019. You want to know why? Because the fast food industry said, and I'm reading the quote, we need to make the minimum wage impact on us irrelevant. Otherwise, we will die and will not be able even to operate our franchises. So they went to kiosks and went to automated kitchens, AI-powered drive-thrus, which were recently discussed.

20:56All of that was on the docket in 2019, and they have been chasing it. And it's been eliminating jobs for teenagers because they've had it. So when you're talking about the big company, the big company has got the money like McDonald's, all the franchises to go invest in these systems. And guess what? It eliminates jobs. Yeah. And again, we'll we'll see what's going to happen with this. I don't think this conversation is going to go away. You said when you were 16 years old, a story came out. You guys remember Bernie Sanders? We should raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars. And then he realized he was paying his interns thirteen dollars an hour.

21:28And that story came out and it ended very, very quickly. Let's go to the next story. So now, John said something. He said the socialists are exploiting what's going on with affordability. And I'm going to come to you first on this next story. In Florida on Tuesday, Angie Dixon, Democratic Socialist, won Tuesday primary in Florida. The question now, AP says, is can she win in November? Democratic Socialist Angie Dixon won primary in Florida. Let me go to this other. voters nominate a state representative, Angie Dixon, a democratic socialist over Alex Vindman, the moderate former national security office central to Trump's first impeachment and a shock upset.

22:11She face faces a long shot challenge to Republican Senator Ashley Moody appointed by governor Ron DeSantis. After Marco Rubio became secretary of state, Vindman raised about$16 million and spent 9 million. Nixon raised just shy of$1 million. So the establishment Democrat raises$16 million. Nixon, the socialist, raises$1 million, 16 to 1, and she beats the favorite of 16 to 1. Skip broadcast ads and targeted voters on social media, backed by influence like children's education, Ms. Rachel and Representative Rashida Taleb and Ilhan Omar. Representative Nixon ran a strong campaign. I will be standing by her side in the fight against Ashley Moody.

22:52Vin Min said after conceding, Trump gloated on Truth Social. The most gratifying loss last night was that a real treasonous creep, Alexander Vindman, to a radical left lunatic, adding Vindman should be prosecuted. The defeat fits a pattern. Impeachment era like figures. Al Green, Dan Goldman, and Sri Thander all lost primaries to the progressive this year. Still, Nixon was weakest in South Florida's large Latino community where left flank congressional candidates lost to moderate Tuesday. So, John, why do you think these Democratic socialists running up against the establishment Democrats are winning?

23:27I think that progressive voters, they don't have confidence in the ability of like the establishment Democrat Party to stop Republicans. I mean, they tried literally everything they could to stop Trump and MAGA. He still somehow manages to win the election again in 2024. And so now their anxieties are giving them a kind of permission to install, I think, further left, more radical socialist type candidates. It's because if the typical, you know, Joe Biden type Democrats, even though he's become extremely radical, can't, you know, deliver the utopia the way that they were promising to, then they're going to outsource that to people who maybe are a bit more radical in their rhetoric.

23:59They become very dangerous when they feel like their back is against the wall. You know, they typically politically become much more radical on the street level. They become much more radical. And it's the job of the conservative to bring about some kind of order in society and give Americans a standard of living that makes them feel like, OK, this is working. We don't have to entertain these other solutions. Is this something to worry about? Like when you, what school did you go to? What college did you go to? University of Michigan. How many liberals were there? Is it a 70-30 liberal? Is that a fair breakdown?

24:24Ann Arbor, Michigan is famously one of the most liberal cities in the country. Okay, so that was how long ago did you graduate? Four years ago? Five years ago? I'm actually there right now. Oh, you're there right now. Okay, when you're on campus, you're talking to, you're in a classroom. You're seeing them make the argument on the other side. What are you hearing? It's not fair. Is it a victimhood language? Is it the corporations are making too much money? Is it billionaires are getting too rich, trillionaires? What is the criticism? To be honest with you, it's not as radical as I thought. I think that by the time kids arrive at college, they already have this stuff programmed into them.

24:55I was shocked, actually, whether it's an econ class or I'm in the class, a mandatory class called race and ethnic relations you have to take. And it's everything you would expect. The level of disinterest from the average student shocked me. I thought everybody would be there, you know, handing out Miles a little red book or something. But nobody really cared. And so what that tells me is that. Yeah. And this is at Michigan. This is a real school. Which, by the way, you just had arrests there from students who were there who were radical because they were threatening or actually they were planning acts of terrorism against Zionist professors because they viewed them to be like insufficiently committed to the pro-Palestine cause or something.

25:24So this is like a school that is actively breeding radicals. But for some reason, the median student isn't quite picking up on it, which tells me it's not so much college. It's like by the time you're there, you know, your brain is already molded. If by the time you walk out of like a public high school in America, you already believe this stuff like it's pretty much over for you, I think. And I want to get into that here in a minute. Tom, your thoughts on this. So give us a breakdown. You follow these polls very closely. Yep. Go through the whole thing. Byron Donalds, Angie Dixon, what should people be looking for?

25:51So Byron Donalds is basically going to be a done deal for governor unless something comes out on Donalds. Take a look at what happened in Calci. And by the way, this Calci prediction market, this is not a poll. This is the odds of success. Remember, that's how prediction works. Yep. So there's not a poll out there that's 93-7 on all the voters. What Calci has pulled here, take a look at what happened when she won. The odds for the Dems actually went down. In other words, the odds of success went down because of Nixon, the DSA candidate, versus the other. Rubio consistently won 53-54-57. You know what those are?

26:32That's what Rubio got on his Senate. So the Rubio Senate train has been very consistent. He's been very handily winning his elections. Moody was his. He approved the choice. He liked the choice. And the governor, DeSantis, appointed her to the short term because Rubio became secretary of state. So what you have right now, it looks like Moody, unless something very odd happens, is going to handily carry this at about 55-45 unless something weird happens. Because if you take a look at Florida, there's the law and order Florida and then there's the retired Florida. And the funny thing is there are the Democrats that voted for Trump in 2020 are the excuse me.

27:19Yes. Trump 2020 Democrats that we look in Florida. Those are going to be with Ashley Moody because they want nothing to do with Nixon's policies. They're what you call. Remember what did Clinton call them? The blue dog Democrats that used to walk. Oh, the blue dog. Remember that? The Democrats used to walk the other side. And so that's that's what's going on with her. She appears more radical and the core Dems do not like it. Moody should carry this. And Donald's it's almost like he's running uncontested because he is also up against a candidate that is just when the when the broader debates happen and the things come out.

27:59it's not going to play well. I want to know what position his opponent is actually going to take. Whose opponent? Donald's opponent. Oh, gotcha. Donald's opponent as in the Democratic opponent. You know, I have to really say this, and I'm going to continue saying this. Donald's is probably going to end up being a governor here. But the more guys like Donald's avoid debates with guys like Fishback, you know what you do? The only reason he didn't want to do the debate isn't because of Collins or because of Renner. He didn't want to face Fishback. When you don't face guys like that, you know what I would do if I'm a Nick Fuentes?

28:36You know what I would do? And all the other guys, guess what I would do? You know what an easy layup you're giving me to say one thing? What's that one thing? He's afraid. They're scared. They're scared. And what does that do? You give the base of the younger guys to say, I knew the establishment Republicans are scared. Versus just debate the flipping topics and sit down. You are indirectly becoming the establishment of, I don't need to do it, I'm above you. That's exactly what the young people that are becoming groipers or going to a different direction are turned off by. Yeah, I'm too above this.

29:09We can't be doing that. We need to have the discussion. You know, when a lot of people say, why do you have such and such person on? Why do you have such and such person? Why do you sit down with this person? A week before I had Candice and Andrew Wilson on, I sat down with Ben Shapiro. And by the way, you know what the podcast went right after Ben Shapiro and Candice and Andrew Wilson? It was who? Joel Webben. You know, all that, the level of controversy and what it goes on. So I think the conservative party, those that are the traditional Republicans, need to look at it as let me talk to these guys to get in front of the young men to give a better argument instead of dodging those conversations.

29:45Let me get in front of them, have the conversation, and say, hey, here's what I think you ought to consider doing something. Here's what a different approach to take because they're not going away. And FYI, they're just going to get bigger. This idea of they're going to be gone and non-existent in a year or two, you're delusional. You're delusional. You're buying your own hype. Yesterday we're at dinner. Yesterday or two nights ago, we're at dinner. And I said something to Vinny. I said, Vinny, you know what's the one thing about life that nobody realizes? He says what? I said, no one is untouchable.

30:13Even the movie of Untouchable, that was about who? Al Capone. Al Capone. Capone was touchable. Touched. Name me somebody that's not untouchable. Go ahead. Muhammad Ali, touchable. Who's untouchable? Jesus Christ taught, murdered, killed. So the idea of we are ahead and we got this and we got that, that is a very, very problematic strategy to take. That's a temporary strategy because you're avoiding the conflict. When you avoid the conflict, there's a sect of younger men. Sometimes you know what guys want. You know when sometimes we had one of our employees yesterday we had an issue with. I sat down with her afterwards and I said, hey, what's bothering you?

30:50And she just opened up. And I said, so what? We just went back and forth. One of my favorite employees. And it wasn't an issue with me. It was an issue. By the way, the issue was so flippin' small, it was ridiculous. And then I said, is that it? Yeah. I said, let me ask you. Is it on me or is it on you to bring that up? I guess it's on me to bring it up. I can't read your mind, so bring it up. And then I said, are we good? Good. We got a message today. We figured it out. Half the time, you know what people want? My oldest son, you know what he wants to do every night when I get home? Guess what he wants to do every night when I get home?

31:20He just wants to give him 20 minutes of just letting him filter out everything's on his mind. Every night I have to hear about Jiu-Jitsu Kaizen. I have to hear about, you know, what happened in a scary movie, horror movie. And let me tell you, in Western society and AP, human geography. I didn't even know what human geography AP was. I'm sitting in the class. I'm like, hey, babe, I'm going to act like I know what I'm talking about. What the hell is human geography, let alone AP? Because when you say AP to me, I'm thinking, why is this kid taking human geography of AP Armenian power? Why are they doing Armenian power, human geography, teaching Armenian gangster?

31:57I don't think in Shpesa. That's not a good idea. No, that was your major, right? What's your major? I'll pause. I'll come to you. So you've been in Florida your entire life, minus this moment you lived in Addison Beach. But watching what's going on right now with a socialist like Dixon come up, does it do anything to you? You're like, this is just noise. Nothing's going to happen. Total noise. And I'll tell you why. Right now what's happening is you talked about establishment and that's something you're talking about. And then you have these sort of anti-establishment candidates. You have to understand there's levels to this thing.

32:27There's a difference to this thing. And I'll touch on Biden in a second. The DSA has taken over the Democratic Party. I want to be super clear on that. They've taken over. They've done the Trojan horse thing. And on the MAGA side of things, you've had the Groyper, America only crew try to do the exact same thing. And do you want to know what happened to them? they got universally rejected by the party now at the same time i agree that they're not going anywhere and if you don't address those issues it could only fester and get longer and i'm not calling them a cancer i'm saying when you have a cancer you have to cut it out immediately or it will spread and what's happening in a democratic party it has spread and i would say that maybe 50%, let's say, of the Democratic Party is now DSA.

33:14There was a cancer growing after Charlie Kirk especially was killed by Tyler Robinson, allegedly. The cancer started growing. And the MAGA establishment, as weird as that sounds like now, because they weren't the establishment 10 years ago, said, no, no, no, no, no. We're not doing this nonsense. Let me give you some evidence. Dan Bilzerian, anti-MAGA, anti-Trump, got smoked by allegedly not a great candidate, Randy Fine. You talk about Fishback. Fishback got smoked. And the reason that Byron Donald, in my opinion, didn't want to debate him, because he wasn't respectful. He was genuinely racist, anti-Semitic, and just a hot air candidate.

33:55Talented, but did not have the goods to actually deliver. And the voters showed that. Adam, Adam, Adam, hang on. Jared Moskowitz defeated Larkin. Stay right there. Stay right there. Stay right there on this one. That position is arrogant. Whether you're right or wrong is a different story. The guy got 14%, 12%. He got 140 ,000 votes. How much is the vote that he got? Fishbeck got 177. Renner got 145. Jay Collins got 426. 177 ,000 people voted for this guy. Why? In Florida. Why? I'm not dismissing that. I'm saying that he was rejected, though. It doesn't. It wasn't close. So then what you do is like, for instance, how do I feel about Nick Fuentes?

34:38What is my thoughts about Nick Fuentes? I'm not going to put words. Well, very talented debater. He's very good. I'm comfortable you saying whatever I've said behind closed doors or in camera. I'm not. You said he's a very good speaker, debater. He knows he's smart as hell. Why did I bring him here and talk to him? Well, you're a different breed of person. It's not the point. You'll have a conversation with anybody. Like, this is a part right now where the conservatives have to sit there and listen to people. What are you upset about? Half the time when you're running a company, your job is to host a town hall and say, what are you not happy with?

35:07Can we do something or not do something? What's your one rule when somebody comes on the podcast? Until you actually disrespect them, you will be respectful. Until they disrespect you. If someone's disrespecting you to your face, would you actually debate that person? By the way, if I get... Respect is a big thing. Hang on, you're right. It is. And that's why I said to Nick. And he came, he was very respectful. But I also had the other guy from, what was a young guy, Thomas Russo. And he was like even further than when Nick is out. I mean, he's not even like, but you know what? I want to know why they're upset about it.

35:36And you know what? A part of me understands saying this is my country. I'm white. I'm a nationalist. You came here. You took jobs away from others. Okay, fair. That's a good argument that you're making. Let's see where the leak is there. Or maybe there's a leak in my argument. But to me, if you go into UFC, if you go into boxing, if you go into politics, and you're worried about getting offended, get the hell out of the business. I didn't say offended. Disrespected? Wait, how many times a day does Trump get disrespected? You're in the big boy arena, buddy. Don't get into this business. This is a nasty business.

36:11Go roll and find clips about him. There's a guy that 90 % of the videos he does is about me. I mean, I've had girls that were crazy about him. I've never had any man be disinfatuated by me. Yeah. But it's free market. Yeah. Go make the clips. So to me, a part of it is, if you're in the game, if you're going into politics to debate, I'm not in that space. I'm not raising my head saying I want to go. But if you're raising your hand to say you're going to be the governor of a state, you have to be willing to talk to the other guys. Short term, there won't be impact. Watch the impact in 10 years. Watch the impact in 10 years.

36:46I agree. All I'm saying. Ultimately, what I'm saying is this. the Democratic Party, Republican fighting is actually at an all-time high right now since Trump because of the Charlie Kirk thing and because of the allegations and made-up stories regarding the assassination. And a lot of it stemmed from that and then which stemmed from Israel. But what I'm ultimately saying is this. The Democratic Party, not only are they not rejecting the DSA, they're embracing it. Ilhan Omar, Mamdani, Al-Sayed from Michigan out there, that's the new face of the party. The Republican Party has basically said, hey, Dan Bilzerian, hey, James Fishback, hey, Oliver Larkin, hey, Thomas Massey, you're no longer welcome here.

37:31You do have valid arguments, which we can discuss, but you as a candidate, you gots to go. Yeah, and by the way, there's a difference. Like, James worked hard. I'm not saying he's not talented. I think Dan tried to use his massive following to win, but James did the work. I agree. So you got to give credit. Dan Dozerian was the laziest candidate I've ever seen in my life. Listen, James and I may not be on the same page with policies, but I respect the hell out of the way that he campaigns. He works. Yeah, he works. And he trolls. And he does his thing. And the American and the Florida voters were like, yeah, we're not into it.

38:08You know what Nick said on the podcast, and I think he even made this comment a few weeks ago. He says, if there's one thing about Charlie, nobody worked like he did. I asked him a question. I said, what compliment can you give to Charlie? He says, dude, I can't work like he does. He says, I respect the hell out of his work ethic. So you got to know, long term, there are some young cats that are willing to work their asses off, and they're going to exploit your arrogance and entitled attitude. The way competition works, the moment you get entitled, arrogant, and you start thinking like, oh, I already got this, you're going to get your ass handed to you.

38:43I agree with you. Capitalism has no sympathy for you. and it could care less how old you are, what skin color you are, how rich you are, how wealthy you are. It could care less. Have you been following what Nick is saying about Charlie these days? No. He's been very complimentary of Charlie. He'll always add, look, we didn't get along, we were not friends, and we didn't see it eye to eye, but compliment, compliment, compliment, compliment, compliment, and all the fake stories out there don't add up. I'll give him credit for that. And with this whole thing, I think that the bigger picture is this DSA thing because think about it, everybody Chuck Schumer is backing at him.

39:13All this, you know, Vindman. By the way, you guys remember who Alex Vindman is? From Ukraine, lieutenant colonel. He was behind the whole Russia collusion hoax, freaking impeachment. Didn't want to out the whistleblower who didn't have firsthand of the call that they tried to impeach. You want to talk about the deep state operative? I love what Trump said about him. Think about that. $16 million, guys. She had$975 ,000, and she won. And this, again, goes back on the Democrats. You guys have the deep state people with all the money and everything. But nobody wants them. And this goes to blame on the Democrats.

39:46They're going after this DSA nonsense. And on a national level, we haven't seen anything nationally yet. This is all just local governorship. Wait until 2028 when AOC freezing her eggs. Now she's single and everything. I want to see what on the national level, if all that hate. I'm going to say this to you, Vinny. Yeah. The best thing going on with Republicans right now is the fact that socialists are beating Democrats. there is nothing better than that happening. Amen. If the Republicans, we talked about Quiznos the other day, where Quiznos went from zero to 5 ,000, and then all of a sudden they lost it all.

40:24They're down to 132 different stores, and Subway crushed them, and they got 40 ,000 stores. And at one point, everybody would go to Quiznos, mesquite chicken, you know, broccoli and cheese. It was the best. But you know what happened to them? Even though they were served, hey, guess what, Quiznos? I know you want to take out Subway. We're going to give you a wild card. You won't even believe what happened. What? The face of the guy, Subway, Jared, just got caught. Yeah. With underage kids. Yeah. That was like the greatest layup. And Quiznos dropped the effing ball. Yep. And they went bankrupt in 2014.

40:59How? Nobody has any clue how this happens. But the Republicans are being handed a beautiful layup. If you don't have a solution for guys his age on what to do with affordability and it's just lip service. if you don't have solution for his age, socialists have a shot at winning. You can't get arrogant and entitled. I agree. I'm going to go through story to John right now. So, John, the Duffies, Sean Duffy, Clip and Campos, their wife, his wife, story comes out about them talking about their daughter going to Harvard. And I'm going to come to you with this one here. This was viral all over the place.

41:35Go for it, guys. To Harvard? Yeah. Well, me and Mom can say no. Catholicism to us is everything. It's the basis of our marriage. It's the basis of our family. So I'm nervous about the idea of Paloma going to Harvard. We spend a lot of time nurturing and providing formation for our kids, giving them an environment where they are steeped in faith and values. And so the idea of dropping her off at a place that would undermine that or try to undo all those things makes me worried. And again, I don't want them to get one viewpoint. I want them to get a lot of different viewpoints. But I don't want them fed only one viewpoint that's contrary to the way my kids were raised.

42:18Listen, my problem is, we have thought about how we raised you and how hard we've worked to, I think, raise what is a remarkable young girl. If I send you there, I think what happens is they have professionalized figuring out how they can take good young girls like you and I think corrupt their minds. You don't have to believe what I believe. You don't have to have the political viewpoints that I have, but I do think it's important that you make those choices for yourself and you have a fair representation of what they are. And I don't think the Harvards of the world give you that kind of well-rounded picture.

42:58So you're in University of Michigan right now. Okay. Do you agree with them? Should they be this worried about sending their daughter to Harvard. No, I disagree. And this may be controversial, but I think that oftentimes these things can be solved by maybe having more involved parents. I think that, you know, if you do a good enough job raising your kid, you send them off to some school where they're going to teach them things that are liberal or immoral. It's going to run off them like water on a raincoat. And frankly, they don't even rely so much on the information. They rely more on the moralizing.

43:26So again, I'm shocked. I'm in these classes expecting them to tell me about how like evil the founding fathers are. And we read these primary texts from before the country was even established. And they talk about how the founding fathers were very skeptical of democracy, very skeptical of giving the franchise to people who didn't own land. So they had all of these attitudes that were very anti-democratic and there was never any, so therefore they're evil. Like they counted on the incumbent moralizing of the students, like going into it thinking, oh, that's scary. There was no challenges to, and so this is wrong because obviously X, Y, Z, they're giving you the information accurately and they're counting on the cultural programming to make you interpret it in a way that's already negative.

44:02And if you do a good enough job, I think in the household, you can send your kid anywhere. And now they go to Harvard, they now have a degree from an Ivy League school, and they're going to be able to use that to benefit themselves to do something great. And there's the risk, I guess, that they become a little crazy. But again, you know, there are plenty, some of the best, actually most conservative, most effective people are right now working at, I think the college Republicans at Harvard, like very smart guys. And so there is debate, there is that kind of stuff going on. I think that sometimes parents are just maybe a little bit too relaxed.

44:28And then they give their kid freedom for the first time, they come back to Thanksgiving dinner and all of a sudden someone tried to teach them something for the first time in their lives. And so it resonated with them. And it's like, where were you? You know, were you sitting down with your kids, asking them about what they're learning at school, taking them to church? Or did you just kind of sit at the lazy boy? And then for the first time in your kid's life, someone tried to connect with them. And all of a sudden it worked and you're like blaming the college. I think that's misguided. Very good feedback.

44:50What did your parents do when you were about to go to college? How did they shape your mindset from 14 to 18? Then off to college, I was always expected that I was going to go to school and then I decided I wanted to kind of go work for myself and do social media and content creation. They'll tell the story now that they supported that decision. That is not true. When I told them I dropped out, they were both very up because my dad, you know, he's built his own business. So I thought that he would understand. They're both conservative. Yes. Yes. And they did not. They did not support it. And my dad, though, he has the integrity to acknowledge that now.

45:19My mom, not so much. I was always your biggest cheerleader. So funny. We love your mom and dad. He's just joking with you, but maybe he's not. So, OK, Tom, what would you say? You You know, you guys, your daughter, Bailey, had 1560 on her SATs at a 1600, high GPA, capable of going to any school. What decision did you guys make, you and your wife? Well, we were talking to her early on about, you know, liberal colleges, and she was on the board for golf scholarship at Georgetown. But as she chose her major and then said, you know, I really have discovered that if you go play golf at Georgetown, They want you to get a poli-sci degree or take something that doesn't have a lot of rigor to it so you can dedicate yourself to the scholarship they're giving you to play golf.

46:03And so there was that whole mechanism of the student-athlete. But I was a little concerned about, you know, the liberal side of it. And we looked at it, and I said, you know, my daughter's strong, and she's going to be able to roll through it. But I didn't want her to go study just liberal arts at an Ivy League school. We looked at Wharton and we looked at their balance program because Wharton is an undergrad program. It's not just a grad school at Penn. And ultimately, she said when she settled on her major, then we started looking at the schools and she selected where she selected, which was, you know, 42 percent conservative and moderate.

46:40It's like only about 5, 10 percent conservative and about 29 percent moderate. This is Rice and everything else is liberal or very liberal. So but you said about water off your back. Bailey is strong, and Bailey is not out there. Were you worried, though? Were you worried that even they could get somebody like Bailey? I was, yeah, you're always worried, but what percent are you worried? I've never been worried about Bailey. Yeah. I wasn't worried, but I was, I recognized the influence is going to be there, and I was like, okay, how many trips can I make? What can I do? How can I stay close as a family?

47:13How do you keep the dialogue? Because they live incredibly busy lives. Yeah. So ultimately, her major and where she's selected worked out really well, But we had a lot of conversations about this, and we also had a lot of conversation about what we would see on campus with the cancel culture and what was happening at that time. Remember what year this is. She's a junior now. So what was going on three years ago? Yeah, there was a – you know what? Don't be Jewish on campus was more of a worry than don't be conservative on campus because there were Jewish students. She became Jewish? No, no, no.

47:45Mazel tov. No, I'm talking about – Jewish students. I didn't think she would do it. I'm so excited for. Adam, of all people, you shouldn't be joking, Jewish students at Columbia were being actively persecuted with fears of physical harm walking across campus in New York City in the United States of America, right? Adam's a self-hating Jew. Okay, well, I mean, listen, to me, you know, when I talk to the kids and we talk about what college to go to, our job is to shape their mindset. When we took him to, he went to Yale for three weeks out of camp, and the person that signed him in was a transgender.

48:17when he's getting his idea. I remember that. He's just looking. He's like, what's going on? I said, buddy, I prepped you. It's going to be a little weird, man. You're going to go to a completely different environment. And he was 13 years old. And he's kind of like, hey, you need a little bit of that friction to come back and process. Come back and process. Come back. One of the great things about a sales leader, I love sales. Anybody that's in the sales business, I think if salespeople stop tomorrow, the world would stop. But great sales leaders, you know what they do with rookie salespeople? Here's what they do.

48:44You go and run three appointments today. at the end of the night a great sales leader will make the phone call to you at 10 o 'clock and will say walk me through what happened in the appointments today what objections did they give you how did you overcome it what did you say where did you get stuck let's role play you be them i'll be i'll be the salesperson you be the customer and you role play so when the kids go through something how was your day what happened what came up here's what they said what do you so what was your response what did you get stuck on this is what dad one of the guys said this and what do you think about that because they told me in the history that George Washington was a slave owner how do you feel about that what so you need to have that follow-up if you don't have that conversation with them they could get lost Adam what do you do with your seven kids when my seven kids well uh I agree with our friend John here listen if you you go to Harvard if you've worked your tail off in high school and you've done so well for yourself and you get admitted to Harvard you go to Harvard but if you're that father you have that conversation hey I want you to prepare for this.

49:43There's multiple levels with this. By the way, we're talking about Sean Duffy, who was the current transportation secretary, I believe. Who was the former? Pete Buttigieg. Pete Buttigieg. Where did Buttigieg go to college? To Harvard. So there's some stuff going on there behind the scenes. Meanwhile, I looked up where Sean Duffy went. He went to a small private Catholic school in Minnesota. So there's some behind the scenes there. But here I'll tell you a story. You talked about Jewish kids going to Harvard. You know my friend Keith. He's got a nephew. right stud absolute start of a kid six four built like a like just an absolute stud i said you're jewish you're a stud you go to harvard how's anti-semitism on campus he goes yeah it sucks nobody's messing with me though bro i'll kick their ass i go what do you mean he goes liberal weirdos think i'm scared of these guys i was like oh i didn't even think about that he goes they'll take 10 of them to mess with me i was like wow look at that he goes let me tell you the upside of Harvard.

50:42You have no idea who you're going to meet here. He goes, it's the best of the best of the best from around the world. I have billionaire son friends. I got investor friends. He goes, as soon as I graduate, boom, I'm making millions. He goes, you're not going to liberal indoctrinate me or have me hate being or not proud being Jewish. I'm going to show up and be a gangster. Max is, I don't know, probably 21 now. He's probably ready to graduate. Is this Keith's son or Keith's nephew? Oh, nephew. I haven't met him. But when you say you are some of the five people you hang out with the most, I met some of his friends, absolute studs.

51:15He goes, it's bad, but don't get fooled by some of the stuff that's going on here. You can become who you want to become. If you can get into Harvard, you go to Harvard. Just don't go woke. You go broke. Okay. All right. So having said that, let's get into the next story. Next story I want to get into is what's going on with – are you guys following what people are saying nowadays with this? Lindsey Clancy story. I'm sure your phone was really positive. Vinny hasn't slept in four days. Pat, when I bring it up, and I know you have some stuff to say about it, people are mad. Like, you don't know, and she's this, and it was the husband.

51:52And I'm like, what the hell are you talking about? Let's go through some of this stuff because Candice also commented on this. I want to play that clip as well, and I want to get some of your thoughts on where people are at with this. So to do a quick recap, she asks her husband to leave. leaves he leaves one by one by one with a gym what do you call it workout band workout band yeah she she ends up take killing her eight month old her three-year-old and a five-year-old if i'm getting it wrong correct me there and then she was on a bunch of ssr you know ssri medication prior to that even went to a mental hospital then they released her saying she's okay yeah she's going to be fine and yes she's got some stuff but she's dealing with but she's going to be okay they Let her go.

52:34Then she comes back. This happens. Now people are protesting. Women are protesting outside saying it's not her fault. And she tried to kill herself. Like when the husband walked in, Pat, neck slit. She tried to kill herself. She jumped off her house. She's paralyzed. She tried to jump out the second story of her house. And so they're filming themselves hanging out of windows too. So let's play some of the clips. Let's play some of the clips. And I'm going to come to you guys. So here's one. I'm going to play three or four clips. So this is one of the clips. Go for it.

53:04What's going on here? These are people supporting her. Thousands of women that are supporting her. Supporting her, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right outside. So they're supporting her to say it's not her fault, and she kind of went through it. Okay, can we go to one of the clips of somebody that's describing what happens and why it's not her fault? You know, one of the clips. Go ahead. The system failed her. The system failed her. She was begging for help, but no one was there. I don't know if us being here will make her feel any better, but I mean, she's living in hell right now. Just wanted to support Lindsay and just say it could be, you know, one of my sister-in-laws, it could be one of my best friends, and it could be me.

53:42So just here to support. We are hearing her. We see that she tried everything. And I really do believe that she went into a state of psychosis. Glancy's supporters call her attorney Kevin Reddington a champion of women's rights. Is she aware of this support and what does she think of this support? I'm going to go in and see her right now. I'm sure that she is and if she isn't, she will be. What do you think about? She's so beat up and just so sad. This will really help her out, I think. Tell her we love her. The crowd of about 200 to 300 people lined the road as Lindsay Clancy was brought into the courthouse.

54:22Okay, so can you pause it? And then if you I think you guys sent a clip from Candace if you want to play that as well. And here's Candace's position. Go for it. I made my thoughts clear on this. The moment that she was arrested, the moment that it made the news, Lindsay Clancy is obviously not guilty. There are a fleet of doctors who should be imprisoned for what they put her on. I regularly speak out against Big Pharma. They get away with murder all the time. And in this case, they are getting away with the murder of really her three children, but also completely destroyed her life. When Lindsay Clancy, in my opinion, is not guilty.

54:58She was put into an intentional psychosis when she probably just needed to give her kids away for a weekend to get better. But they constantly give you these drugs that do not make things better. And the cocktail of 10 pharmaceuticals that she was on is absolute madness. Absolute madness. I made my thoughts clear on it. So you can pause it and then go to the last one with this lady, and then we'll get into it. Go for it. The one that you guys are telling me you want to show, I haven't seen this one. So, no, no, the one you just texted me. The one you just texted me. That's her on the bottom, right?

55:28Guys, this one you just, literally you just texted me to say, this is the one you want to play. Is that the one or is it a different one? In January of 2023, Lindsay Clancy, a Massachusetts mother of three, strangled her three kids to death in her basement with exercise bands. They were five, three, and eight months old. Her trial is this week. She's being charged with first-degree murder, and the question is whether or not she was undergoing a psychotic episode and didn't mean it. I get what you're saying. You can pause it right here. So, John, where's your position at with this? So, on one end, a lot of these women that are following saying it's not her fault.

56:02It's the doctor's fault. You know, they medicated her. We're trying to find a solution for this. And then some are saying, wait a minute, she just killed her three kids. What do you mean it's not her fault? What's your position? Yeah, I don't know if this has been your guys' experience, but in my experience, I tend to find that women struggle with accountability sometimes. And so I think that, you know, it makes sense that they would all want to take to the streets and say that they sympathize with her because they could see themselves doing that, which if you're a mother, that's kind of a disturbing thing to say if you have children, you know, putting that idea into their mind that you perhaps could have had a bad day and killed them.

56:31But I think she's obviously guilty. I think that everything people are trying to do here is absolve her of guilt by saying it's the system's fault, which the subtext of that is it's like the male-dominated system or something. All of the doctors who wrote her those prescriptions were female doctors. She was also doctor shopping specifically for medications. All the doctors that gave it to her were female doctors? Yeah. She was going out of her way to get these medications, and then she was also getting them, I believe, from if not all, primarily female doctors. And people who are in psychosis, you can see body cam footage of this.

57:00They try to fight police officers. if she were actually in like a psychotic episode she would have not waited for her husband to leave she wouldn't have commanded him to leave she would have tried to take on her entire family and then also too you mentioned she tried to commit suicide i don't know if i buy that i think that maybe she murdered her three children and then she got into a situation where she realized what she had done and she felt remorse because the cuts that she'd made on herself had stopped bleeding by the time the husband came back uh the way that she'd like cut her neck wasn't like that bad and even the medication she took was found to be at like sustainable levels in her system so So her attempt to cut herself and her attempt to overdose on drugs doesn't seem to be indicative of someone who clearly is able to take life.

57:36It seemed like she was kind of doing a half measure or something, perhaps to justify this. I was just psychotic. I didn't mean to because she knew at that point that was her only legal defense. Vinny. So, OK, and I agree with John to a certain extent, and I want everybody to understand this. And we all know this mental illness is real. And I'm not a woman, so I don't know. But postpartum psychosis, depression, all that is real. And mothers who are suffering, they obviously deserve compassion, treatment, and help. But compassion, and you know how we are about accountability, cannot mean you abandon that.

58:06You cannot abandon accountability. And this is what bothers me, Pat, about the whole situation. Her defense says postpartum psychosis explains how a loving mother could strangle three of her children. But guess what? Millions and millions of people around the world suffer from mental illness. Millions hear voices. They have horrific thoughts. They never murder anyone. Okay? And they're on all types of drugs. Okay, mental illness cannot automatically erase your moral responsibility. In fact, in our search to find out Lindsay and what happened and this or that, you know who we can't find out about, forget about, are those three kids.

58:40Okay, that's who you, dude, stop all this nonsense. Cora, Dawson, and Callan. Okay, for four minutes, she's strangling one, and the other ones are sitting there watching mommy. I understand all the, guys, I get it. I get it. And we have friends here that have wives, and they've been through, and they have family members. Do not forget about these three freaking kids that had the worst last moments on this earth in their life, okay? They should be alive. They should be able to grow up, go to school, fall in love, and have families of their own, okay? Those lives matter, all right? So we can have compassion for this mental illness without excusing evil.

59:16We can show mercy without abandoning justice. And whatever explanation ultimately comes out in this courtroom, okay, it should never erase what happened to these three innocent children. Put all that nonsense aside. God rest their souls, because I know where they are right now. But don't forget about them. That's what I have to say about that. Amen to that. I don't need to say anything more than that. Just the prayers to the grandparents, the friends, the family, the other little kids that are at school that went to classes, went to kindergarten with the older one. He's not there anymore. And they got to explain that to these little kids of what happened to their little friends.

59:50Vinny, God bless you. Amen. There are three things going on here, and all three of them are of deep concern. Number one, postpartum is real, and the people that are out there trying to raise attention for postpartum so it can be treated properly are out there using this as a flag. Second thing, SSRIs and the pharmaceutical industry that is out there that wants to invent new drugs for profit, that's what they do, they're out there, and there's a group out there saying, wait a minute, the pharmaceutical industry, the SSRIs and the cocktails are being inappropriately prescribed and it's creating problems here.

1:00:28There's that camp. And then there's the camp that is like, you know, was she competent to stand trial or not? Or was she insane? We we go through an immense amount of testing in this country before we grant the insanity defense. And so, you know, was she insane or was she not insane? Is she capable of standing trial? Is she capable of standing trial? She's accountable. But the other two camps, I believe that the postpartum people mean well, and they're trying to raise awareness for it. But they're using this case as a flag. See, we told you. And then you have the people over there that are the doctors should be in prison.

1:01:06And by the way, that's the Candace camp. The Candace camp is look at what these physicians were prescribing. Look at the drugs they're using. Look at the cocktail that's out there. The doctors should be in prison. That's their camp. And so this has become this big lasagna, Pat, where everything's kind of mixed together. It's is she insane or not? Do you believe postpartum? Yes. Do you got to get treatment? You got to get investment for that to help. And then is the cocktail being inappropriately administered? Adam. I actually think Candace has a point here, and I'll explain why. This is not a black and white issue.

1:01:43This is not guilty, innocent. There's a lot of nuance here. And I didn't think that I would even go deep on this story, but I did. What I've realized is that postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are not the same thing at all. Depression, anxiety, sadness, all the fears that come with that, all that kind of stuff. Psychosis, you're having, it's like you're taking crazy pills. There's voices in your head. there were voices in her head telling you kill your kids there's voices doing this now where i think candace has a point look i'll just come out and say i think candace is dead wrong about charlie dead wrong on this she has a point with this cocktail of drugs this lady was on and the doctors are prescribing this and knowing that she is on all these pills What could go wrong with a person who's clinically depressed or has psychosis with all these pills?

1:02:42What could possibly happen? Well, we found out what happened. Three of her kids are dead. So the doctors are going to have some accountability here. That's where I'll agree with that. Now, here's where I'll land this plane. Do I think that she's going to be convicted of first-degree murder? I don't think so. Will it be manslaughter or kid slaughter? I think so. But Adam, that mental illness, you can't erase what she did, Adam. And this is all I'm going to say for the last time. Imagine being eight months, three years old, and five. I don't know the order of how she killed him. And you're watching Mommy.

1:03:20I don't care. I'm with you. You're killing. I'm with you a million percent. And so accountability, Adam, there's so many people out there that are batshit crazy every day that hear stuff. They don't go through with it. I'll ask you one simple question. Yeah. And I think it's something that Pat would do. What percentage do you think this was her willfully doing this? And what percentage was it the drugs? I think it was a – Give me a percentage. He said the greatest cocktail. I don't know percentage. In your opinion, this is all just opinion. What percentage was her doing it? What percentage was caused because of taking the drugs?

1:03:5670-30. She's the one that did it. I'm with them. I'm with them. 70-30. So you think it's mostly her? mostly the depression. And then 30 % the stress. I see it kind of inversely. Well, and again, I don't know. That's your opinion? How many people take SSRIs? Can you pull up how many people take SSRIs? Believe me, I'm not going to defend the over medicated community. It's disgusting. No, what I'm saying to you is how many people take, the basic way to do the math on this is how many people in the U.S. take SSRIs? Can I give you one more please? Yeah, of course. How many people take this many SSRIs?

1:04:27How many people are taking 10 pills at a time? But I heard she wasn't. But she wasn't taking all 14 or all 10. So she was prescribed all these things. She was dosing them herself, too. So she wasn't taking all of them that she was prescribed. And also, I'm pretty sure when you get these prescriptions, you have to answer the doctors. Are you taking any other medication? So maybe they were overprescribing. She could have lied. But then is that not her fault? She chose to then lie. I agree with that. So I think that, you know. And by the way, just a few things. Husband was well off. He made good money working from home.

1:04:58Family was supportive. had access to nanny allegedly all these things that are in place that she's going through this and you you know you're like this is the one thing that is probably nobody is in more pain right now of course the three kids they're no longer with us uh imagine being the husband and what are you replaying you know what you're replaying why did i leave her alone with the kids non-stop if you know your wife or anybody in the family is dealing with something like this Imagine it's like, why did I leave? He's going to, by the way, he's going to replay that for the rest of his life.

1:05:36And I'm not even putting this out there. There's a chance he might be on suicide watch right now. Are you kidding me? Your entire life was evaporated in a 20-minute run to the convenience store. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, when you get issues like this that happen, you have to be very careful to not put the onus on the individual because if you don't put the onus on the individual, other people will look at this and be inspired to say, well, I didn't and it wasn't my fault. was because of what you gave me. For sure. So you have to be very, very careful with messaging of what some people can take this and, you know, it's like, why did I walk out of the movie Joker?

1:06:07Because the Joker said, killing the capitalists, you become a hero, and then Luigi Mangione becomes a hero, and look what he's got going on today. And it's like, yeah, I did kill the guy. Wow. I'm telling you, I did kill the guy. What are you going to do about it? I did. Mangione. Here's what I did. Yeah, Mangione. And there's still people defending him. And no, but you think Luigi's going to be the last one doing that? No way. Watch what's going to happen next few years. Watch what's going to happen next few years. You just got to be careful with the messaging and how you're allowing people to have an alibi.

1:06:32I lost a friend, and I went to the dentist that kept giving him Vicodin. And the guy that was selling him the Vicodin, I went up to that kid. I know his name until today. And he would buy this from the dentist at$4 a pop. He would buy the Vicodin from him, and he sold it to my guy. And my guy took it, and he passed away. He took 50 pills of Vicodin one night, and he was done. And I took the Vicodin out of his hands in the back. of a Shakey's restaurant in Glendale. That visualization never goes away. So I also put, you know, a fair amount of responsibility on these doctors and what they're doing on the side.

1:07:07A lot of these guys need to lose their licenses. That's incredible. There's a lot of these people that are doing that. There needs to be examples made of these guys losing their license. That's essentially what Candace was saying, no? That part I'm with, but we have to make sure we're measured to put the onus on the individual and not have an out because somebody else will step up and say, that's why I did it. I didn't do it. it wasn't my fault. It wasn't my fault. It wasn't my fault. So we have to be very, this is a very, very sensitive topic that we're going through. Okay, let's go to the next story.

1:07:35Next story I want to get into is a story of Sophie Cunningham. Okay, so Sophie Cunningham hints at WNBA Commissioner Shake-Up as she goes after Kathy Engelbert. If you guys got the clip in the back, you want to get that prepared, I'll read the story and then we'll go to the clip. Indiana FIFA guard, Sophie Cunningham, suggests that WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert's job could be open up for this season. Let me know if you guys found that clip on X. There's a clip on this on X if you want to find it. You do have a person in power who is bold, who is confident, who wants to be the best for the players, and not maybe for themselves all the time.

1:08:10Cunningham told USA Today. So I do feel like, as a whole, that could be a position that's maybe open at the end of the year, but that's not my call. Let me read that one more time. I do feel like, as a whole, that could be a position that's maybe open at the end of the year. What are you talking about? That means the commissioner positions may be open at the end of the day. She added, Kathy Engelberg's done a lot of good things, but with where our league is trying to go, I feel like you just want someone who also wants that. That's up to the NBA commissioner, Adam Silver, at the end of the day.

1:08:43Sophie Cunningham is calling out directly saying, Adam, at the end of the day, you're the top brass. You've got to make a decision. Silver was noncommittal at NBA Summer League in mid-July. I think Cathy continues to do a strong job building that league while noting we'll have ongoing discussions about the future looks like. He praised the tremendous progress under Engelberg, including contentious March CBA and six expansion teams through 2030. Engelberg has drawn fire over player relationship and social justice handling with Minnesota Link star. Nafisha Collier also voicing this pleasure. Tom, why is it so important that a superstar like – Katelyn Clark is the superstar, but nobody is getting more voice and hurt on our opinions than Sophie.

1:09:27Katie may be the superstar. Sophie's the voice, spokesperson for a lot of these people that don't have the courage to say it. Why is it so important, Tom? Because I think there's one word about Cunningham's position, authentic. And the second word I put under there is fair. She has been authentic and fair. She has not been bombastic. And people are seeing the authenticity. Even Caitlin Clark has kind of stepped back from some things that she could have, should have said or taken a position on. And she wanted to be noncommittal where Sophie Cunningham is not. And she's like, hey, this is here. This statement by Sophie Cunningham is very, very clear.

1:10:03And by the way, what's even more clear is, Pat, you understand it as a leader. Adam Silver has been noncommittal. And you know why he can be noncommittal? You know what the expiration date on Engler's contract is? Whose contract? Kathy. Kathy. What? December 31st, 2026. He doesn't have to say anything. He can let it roll out. Her contact's up at the end of the year. He doesn't have to get into a media firestorm. He can get to the end of the year. He can decide what they're going to do, put somebody else there. And by the way, I don't blame him. But to your point on her, she's authentic and non-bombastic, Pat.

1:10:40And that's why people listen to her. I know very little about the WNBA. I thought for sure you're like a diehard WNBA. Biggest sport in the world. Wake up, buddy. Where you at? Where you been? I was thinking about this the other day, and it's almost as if this was a plan, Tom, like an attempt to bring some attention to a sport. Yes, they're making the money, but it's just unwatchable. Look at the attention, guys. This is, I think, what, the fourth week. We're talking about it. We have so many issues that we talk about. They're bringing this. They're doing that. Transgenders this. All this type of situation.

1:11:14I think this might be a real, purposeful ploy to bring people and eyeballs and everything. And you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if they actually let some biological men come on that court because at least it would make it watchable. I tried. I'm not even joking. I tried to watch a couple of minutes and just watching. What's her name? Reese? What's her name? Angel Reese. Angel Reese laying. Some people called her. She's like the Jordan of. Yeah, the Jordan. I think it was Aries Spears. he said something like she looked like a baby giraffe trying to stand like you know they they can't even move i think it's all a play because it's unwatchable but it's like the attention that they're trying to get is unbelievable but i i respect sophie cunningham because time you what's the word that you said authentic and fair and there's there's two words too i'm going to add on top of that common sense if you have male genitalia and you were born a male this all started go try to play in the nba that's your job okay go for that and this is unbelievable that none of them because they're in this umbrella but you know the democrats always say we have a big tent we have a big tent this lgbtq tent they can't go against the grain they can't go against it and i think it's absolutely ridiculous well it's not about kathy they got to make a decision and pat pointed it out last last time when we were talking about this if they they got together and said they couldn't figure out what a woman was they couldn't figure it out wait a minute tennis chose one way The USOC doping committee chose one way.

1:12:40The international IOC chose one way. All of these organizations, WTA chose one way. They've all chosen something, right? And they're not all unified. They've made a decision about trans or trans athletes or things. They've all decided. Whereas the WNBA goes in a room and they figure out nothing in eight hours of debate. And it's like, guess what? You make a statement here and Pat made a prediction. Pat's prediction on AOC was pretty good. His prediction is, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden, if they take a stand one way or the other, what was it you said, Pat? You wouldn't be surprised if like...

1:13:17If there's men playing... That suddenly have to retire. They're worried about that they have to retire. Sudden retirement. So... I have a different perspective. Go ahead. Follow the money here, guys. Do you know what the average WANBA salary was last year? $80 ,000. Yeah, this is before the Caitlin Clark contracts. $125. It's almost a half a million dollars. Oh, damn. These women are making money now. Okay, here we go. $120 last year. So there's a lot of money coming in here. So follow the money, guys, for a second. Now, the average length of a sports career is three to five years. So get the money when you can, ladies, because some of these ladies are going to be absolute nobodies with a couple million bucks in their pocket.

1:14:06Let me tell you why I think Sophie Cunningham is brilliant. Because she says, look, I'm a decent player. I'm better looking than I have skills. She's looking at people like Riley Gaines. She's looking at people at Sage Steele and goes, what am I going to do in five years when I'm done with basketball? I can do whatever the hell I want to do. I'm going to create a market for myself. You want to be a congresswoman? Boom. I want to start a business? Boom. Who's not going to invest in Sophie Cunningham's podcast? We would. So what I think is she's looking at the lay of the market and goes, just keep doing this.

1:14:37She's going to end up making tens of millions of dollars, not even from basketball. Now, let me give some unsolicited advice to any other pretty black girl in the WNBA. Be different. Don't follow the crowd. Go be a pretty black girl in the WNBA and say, you know what? I agree with Sophie. No dudes in the league. No chicks with dicks. And watch how many people follow this person. These women, for a very short period of time, are in an incredible position to make an actual difference for themselves or possibly the league. You know how I feel about the WNBA. Garbage product, garbage in, garbage out.

1:15:18But for the black girl who wants to be the new Sophie coming in, it's for yours for the take. Let's see if they have the balls to step up. Well, you're not saying that her initial – I think Sophie's genuine and she's authentic that she started this whole thing. Oh, 100 % genuine. You're saying keep going because now you can capitalize on it. I think that she might have not been a big-picture thinker, but now she has to be. There's too much money on the line and too much opportunity. All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story is a weird story. But, you know, this whole Grand Theft Auto 6 is about to come out and it's going a little bit crazy out there.

1:15:51Army unit offers four-day pass. They call it a danza to play Grand Theft Auto 6 as re-enlistment incentive. This is a CBS News. What a crazy story, but I love this story. An Army battalion at Fort Stewart, Georgia, is offering, I think that's an AIT base, is offering active-duty soldiers a four-day pass to play Grand Theft Auto 6 as a re-enlistment incentive. Time to the game's November 19th release. 20 soldiers in the 9th Brigade Engineer Battalion, part of the 3rd Infantry Division, have already chosen it. About 130 are eligible. Soldiers must reenlist for two to six years between August 1st and November 14th.

1:16:32The idea was a unique incentive program that connects to what soldiers are interested in. Lieutenant Colonel Angel Tomko, a 3rd Infantry Division spokesperson, said the incentive isn't service-wide, but could expand. When the game set in, a fictional Miami with the series' first female lead follows 2013 GTA V. The Army's courtship of gamers isn't new. After missing its recruiting goal in 2018, the service launched an esports team around Call of Duty, Fortnite, and League of Legends and sent recruiters to gaming conventions. In 2019, Major General Frank Muth, then overseeing recruiting command, said gaming skills overlap with Army jobs.

1:17:10It's the decision-making. It's the ability to take in a lot of information quickly. And to be able to make a decision, it's about teamwork. Vinny, would this have convinced you to stay in the Air Force? No. Listen. Would that have worked for you? No, but you know what? Vinny might go back in now. I remember the day, because think about it. I was in during 9-11. They did stop loss because I was supposed to get out. But 9-11 happened, and the Bush administration basically does this thing called stop loss where they're like, we can't afford to lose anybody. You guys are staying. So I had to stay basically, not against my will, but I was like, you know, America, I'm staying as a New Yorker.

1:17:44But when it was done, there was no wake up call. There wasn't no, I just was at my desk and a colonel comes back. They give me a contract. They go, hey, O'Shaughness, six years,$60 ,000 bonus. Take it, take it or leave it. And I'm not, remember, I was kicking butt in the Air Force and I don't know what it was. I didn't talk to my mom, nothing. I just went, you know what, sir? I think I'm going to go to Hollywood and chase my dream of being an actor. And they were like, what did you say? Like, what? And then I got, under investigation, he's smoking weed and all that stuff. But this is actually, it's kind of genius, Pat.

1:18:15It's actually pretty good because they're saying, like, hey, give us two years of your life. We'll give you a long weekend for GTA. But my thing is, they better at least throw in the game for free. Are you not going to throw in the game? Do they get to keep the damn game? But, I mean, listen, the numbers are down for the freaking enlistment. Anything, anything to get people to join. How many people already joined, Pat? How many people? Out of 130 eligible people, I think four people joined. That's what we need. I heard it was 20. Okay, so then let's change it. It wouldn't make me. What if it was a pound of wheat instead of the 60 ,000?

1:18:46Tom would do it. What do you mean? Tom would have dove over it. Cram is plenty for you. Tom would have reenlisted for the rest of his life. Well, Brigadier General Ellsworth would probably still be. John, position on this. Those are the guys you want. You want the killers. You want the guys who are into the violent video games. and we've waited like 15 years for this game, I think. So they may even take the contract, go back for six years and come back and GTA 6 might not even be out yet. They might go into like decade two of developing that game and I heard they leaked it or something, which maybe that's like some kind of foreign operation seeing that this could be such a successful program for the U.S.

1:19:22military. They're like, we're just going to leak it so anyone can play it. You lose your recruitment. I mean, listen, it's the hottest thing in town. Everybody's waiting for this. It's the biggest release ever. A few billion dollars already committed to the game. They raised the prices on it. They got different options on what things you can do with it. Tom, how do you see this story? So there's a couple angles to this. And what people need to see is very slowly but very steadily, the pilot in the airplane is being replaced by the pilot with the joystick that's in, what was that, until Tom Daschle closed it, Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, where they ran the B-2s, was the first place, supposedly, that they had remote drone pilots.

1:20:00So these were kids with exceptional eyesight, hand-eye coordination, and twitch that were actually piloting drones remotely. So you had hyper-skilled gamers being recruited. Look at this. FAA hires 2 ,000 gamers, air traffic controllers. And the Army has also developed an eSports team. You know, they have those eSports teams. They go there and they sit there in four of those big gamer chairs and they compete with each other. The Army has an eSports team. So there's a couple things going on. One is the reality is people are going to be calling in sick on that day. The second reality, someday, somewhere Xi's looking, maybe best day to get Taiwan is right here, you know, on the launch of GTA where the world's distracted.

1:20:41But the third thing is the military, there they are, there's the military esports team, is they're recruiting gamers and they're below their quota. And so to show a little bit of empathy and connection with gamers, I think it's a smart move by the military. And by the way, we need to enlist people with gamer skills because that's the people that are going to be flying drones in the future as they become even more sophisticated. Yeah, I think the incentive is too small. I think you're right. They've got to give the game. They've got to give. Is it Xbox or the PlayStation? Which one is it on, GTA?

1:21:16It should be for both games. Okay. I mean, it should be for both. It's got to be both. They got to give all of – if they offered you 60K in what year, 0-1, 0-2, if they offered you 60K at that time – For six years. They gave me a GI bill of$26 ,500. If they offered that then and you just are giving me a four-day weekend, it's got to be more than that. It's got to be like, we'll buy you a ticket to go to the national tournament, whatever that's going on, and, you know, a system, both Xbox and PlayStation, and the game signed. It's got to be something a little bit juicier. Apparently, it's now 20 people that have re-enlisted.

1:21:50But that shows you how desperate people, that means people are not joining the military. Our enlistment numbers, like as much as we're being tough and it's the Department of War and stuff, people aren't joining anymore. And guys, at the end of the day, we need soldiers. I understand the robotic stuff and the AI and the drones and all that stuff, but you still need people. And that was a great story. Think about it. People that are playing an air traffic control video game, the government's going after them and going hey listen you didn't crash any planes during your 10-hour freaking game we're gonna hire you and apparently they filled up 96 percent of the recruitment got high what was it 94 percent of its hiring because of a video game so go on look i'm gonna stay in my lane i didn't i didn't serve i mean you're wearing a military jacket so listen man yeah salute you i got massive respect for our military when we were at the ufc at the White House.

1:22:40I know we had a great time, guys. Amazing. The military, the servicemen and women, they got more respect than the fighters. I got massive respect for these guys. I want to understand how it works, though, Pat. You get recruited. You're in for how many years? They try to bring you back in. They try to incentivize you. For the layman out there, which is 99 % of us, walk me through how it works. This is how you get recruited. This is how much time you have to serve. This is how they try to recruit you. These are the incentives. This is the annual... Re-enlistment or just regular? Well, you know how many times I've heard the name Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks?

1:23:18You kidding me? That David? Re-enlist or enlist? Walk me through the whole beginning thing. Enlist, they start in high school. They come to school and they talk to you. Hey, you would be great. You know, man, it's such a great experience. Women love men in uniform. It's like a pimp. It's like a pimp. Literally, that's what they say. They're pimp. It's like, hey, hey, you. Hey, player. They're catcalling. I mean, they're very good at it. So you were like, sign me up? Well, the guy that got me, Jesus Guerra, got me at 14 years old. And I didn't get in until I was 17 years old. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:23:45He kept saying, but David, I'm telling you, this school stuff's not for you. You would do very good in the military. You'd have a very good career. And then eventually it happened. But re-enlist. Re-enlist. They start six months before your ETSing. What does that mean? I don't know. Re-enlist. So let's just say your ETS is coming out where you're getting out. What is ETS? ETS is you're leaving the military. Can you pull up what ETS stands for? I think it's termination, service. ETS, expiration term of service. So you're about to get out when you're ETSing, and then they'll start saying, what do you want to do?

1:24:15So maybe you'll ask, I want a different MOS. I want a different job. I want to go to a different base. First time around, they'll tell you, what base would you like to go? Oh, yeah, it's called a dream sheet, Pat. You're never getting your base. And then when you say, hey, Jesus, I thought you told me I'm going to Germany. Yeah, man, I really fought hard for you. But you got Kentucky. I said, do you know how many Middle Easterners are in Kentucky? He says, I got to go. He says, no, man, they gave you Kentucky. I'm so sorry. But eventually on your second enlistment, they'll give you whatever you want.

1:24:39So second time, you get to ask where you want to go. How many years are the enlistments for? Delayed entry is two and a half years. Longest could be six. Some could be eight. But it's generally two to six years. So then, you know, I said, no, I'm getting out. But let me tell you what I did find. And I almost didn't want to show this. But if you guys know, this is going viral all over the internet. An old picture of Tom. What? An old picture of Tom. If you want to pull it up. In the military? Do you have this one? Canadian military? This is an old picture of Tom. Tom! General Bet David, you were in Pat's.

1:25:12Oh, my. Salute to Tom. So this is Tom, and Tom didn't want this to be shown. At least you gave him to him. At least General Bet David. He's wearing a uniform, sir. Tom, you can make your favorite noise right now if you want. Can you see? Tom looks like a general right there, right? Except with the, what do you call it? Tom's gone. That bong is huge. So, listen. I can see Tom getting into a press conference right now. Listen, we've eliminated the enemy right here. The foreign combatants have had no chance. You know that video we did when they said, you know, who is more likely to bail you out of jail?

1:25:47Who is more likely to do this? Yeah. Who's fired more people? Everybody went on Tom's side, right? We're going to do one for the podcast. Okay. And we're going to see what the crew is going to say here because people really need to know who Tom really is. Yeah. Okay? Can we do that? I don't think people really know that, and we'll do that here soon. But, anyways. Tom, never get high on it. Congressional hearing, I was asking, Senator, we need to ship 14 million of these to China along with some Bob Marley tape. Yeah, play that clip real quick. Watch this clip. 14 million something views. Go ahead.

1:26:17Started from the beginning. Started from the beginning. Who's more likely to talk your ear off for an hour? We're there and go.

1:26:30You got to win at something. Who's more likely to be late to their own team meeting? Come on, Pat. I'm not even going to look. All stuck. No, Pat's already sitting there. Who drops more F-bombs? Everybody. Really? I think we heard these guys curse. Really, Amarillo? I didn't even realize that. Who's more competitive? Low-key, Tom. New guy. Low-key. Who's more likely to email you at two in the morning? Five in the morning. I don't email you. I text. I'll text you late, but not email. That's Tom. He's saying email. Email. He's texting. Who's more likely to yell at you in the morning and then take you out for lunch in the afternoon?

1:27:20Who's fired more people? Tom. Oh, shit. Look at Jen. Who's more of a numbers guy? This is a split. This is different. That was very confusing. Most likely to bail you out of jail. From experience, people. Look at Chad. I got Chad. He's more likely to talk your ear off. Oh, there you go. You can pause right there. That was actually really fun. That was actually really fun. You know what's fun about this is you got to kind of reflect on yourself and just laugh. Yeah. You have to. If you lose the ability to do that, you lose everything. By the way, here's what you have to realize. One day Mario comes to me.

1:27:56Mario's like Pat. I just had a meeting with Tom. Tom was telling me how to fire somebody. We're in Dallas. I said, what did Tom say? He says, dude, Tom is ice cold the way he fires people. How was it? He says, this is not working out. Today's your last day. Thank you for your help. It's like Moneyball. Hey, listen, you've been traded. Well, let me tell you something, Tom. You've done a good job of rubbing off on Mario. That guy is ice cold. So then Mario's like. Mario tried to fire me yesterday. So Mario goes in and Mario's like, this is not working out. today's your last day you need to pack your stuff and leave and i said how was it this is off at first i was so nervous that's tom so you remember that movie with uh george clooney who goes and he's always firing people and he's teaching this girl how to fight you ever seen that uh movie anyways it was a scene that was tom tom teaching mario how to fire people okay uh before we get into the next story i want you to watch this clip because there's some stuff that's happening with Future Looks Bright shoes.

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1:30:18Trump previously hit 33 % in December of 2017, his first term low. Meanwhile, 80 % of respondents said they expect the war in Iran will go on for an extended period of time. The war began in February and was explained to Americans as a mission to wipe out Iran's nuclear weapons program. Iranian attempts to assert dominance over the Strait of Hormuz has complicated matters. One-fifth of world's oil traverses the Strait and the effect are felt at Trump since the war began. National gas prices average has jumped from under$3 to over$4, according to AAA data. The numbers land weeks ahead of critical midterm elections, with Republicans openly acknowledging there's more work to do.

1:31:01Tom. So there's a couple things going on here. And number one, Americans are very fatigued about the war, very fatigued. There was a period of, okay, I hope this is over quick, just like Venezuela. Then there was this period of, whoa, what are we getting into? And then we went back and forth where the market would move on one sentence and move the other way on another sentence. Then what happened is it took three days of sentences to move the market because the market suddenly was becoming resilient and almost insulated to what was going on. And guess what? That had a waterfall effect on the economy.

1:31:38And when people talk about the economy, when a citizen talks about the economy, here's what they mean. They mean they usually mean fuel and groceries. They'll they'll attribute cost of fuel and groceries to the whole economy. And so citizens really meaning my economy and the government and the president's approval rating is handcuffed to economy more than any other thing. Outside of a spike issue, a spike issue is nine eleven. Terrible, terrible, massive interruption or cataclysmic. And so right now, people are still feeling the gas at the pump, and they're also starting to feel, you know, some fatigue on the war, and are prices ever going to abate?

1:32:22And that is leading to strong economic headwinds on the president. And the word we've been talking about for six months now is affordability. And so that's where they are. And right now, I'm going to teach you something. and you're going to think I'm talking drugs, but I'm not. You know what the crack spread is? The crack spread is— We just did a whole marijuana. No, no, no. Now you're doing crack, Tom? No, if you Google it, the crack spread is the difference between a barrel of oil and the cost of refining it. The crack spread has hit$100. So transportation and refining costs on top of the barrel of oil are now over$100.

1:33:00It wasn't this way early because refineries are running at capacity because the refineries, there's two refineries. Remember Valero refinery that was shut down in California? It's making a difference. That's 5 % of the U.S. refining cost. And so it's all of this, crack spread at 100, gas doesn't look like it's coming down under the price it is right now, which is frustrating motorists. They see that as their economy. Their economy is their perception of the president, and the president's approval rating is down. Take a look at this chart. The chart is showing it going down. It's because once the war started enduring, it didn't go back.

1:33:39You know, and I'm only looking at the war itself from January. And you see the big drop right there before April. See that, Pat? Yep, of course. Wonk right over April. That was in March when it was like, OK, I thought this was supposed to be quick. In, out, Maduro goes to jail. I thought we were doing something similar. When we went in and destroyed, quote, destroyed the nuclear places in Iran, in, out, hey, we destroyed stuff. All of a sudden, this is extending and it's having a really bad impact on the president's approval rating. Yeah. And remember, too, Trump was the guy who was supposed to alleviate the fatigue that Americans were feeling about these wars in the Middle East.

1:34:16I mean, this is the guy who 10 years ago got up on the debate stage and told Jeb Bush that the Iraq war was a big, fat mistake. And Republican voters didn't know that you were allowed to say that. Like in the 2000s, your level of commitment to the Republican cause was demonstrated by your vocal support for these wars in the Middle East. And so Trump gets up there and is supposed to be a repudiation of this. And so now, like you're saying, you know, we get back in. Americans are like, OK, we can tacitly accept this. But it keeps going on and on. And since it began, his approval rating hasn't cracked 40 again.

1:34:44You know, it was up there in a while for the 40s, but it was still trending down. Still not bad for a president in this stage in his term. But really what started to actually decrease it was when Americans started seeing for the first time those videos of the mass deportations. And now I was looking at the polling too, and it shows that how Americans are viewing the immigration issue has shifted from being like way, way, way, way in support of how Republicans want to handle it versus Democrats, something like a 40 point difference. Now it's basically neck and neck, which tells me that, you know, Americans are starting to see like what that actually looks like.

1:35:13And they're kind of souring on it. Like it's now 50-50 in terms of how they would like to see Democrats versus Republicans handle the immigration issue. And so Trump, you know, insofar as he's able to execute on that, that's just going to like hurt him more as people are seeing what they're paying for at the pump. They're seeing more videos of like people just getting deported. Like this is not going to look good for him. You're very learned on this. I was reading yesterday that right now the only issue that Republicans have a clear lead on is crime. All of the other traditional Republican issues on economy and the border and everything are suddenly slacking as America loses confidence over the summer.

1:35:48And here's my question. We have, what, two years left until, you know, the presidential election in November. but is there enough time to turn this around? Because affordability, I mean, think about it. Because if affordability is going to stay the same, this war is going to stay the same, the mass deportation of all these illegals, which is helping with this freaking affordability because these people are living places, they're getting paid, we're giving them all this freaking money. It's because my thing is this, it's life after Trump. As much as Gavin and all these people keep going, Trump and Trump, he's going to be gone and he's going to be out.

1:36:19And I think whoever's going to be attached to him as a Republican nominee, this is just going to bleed to them. And then we keep hearing these socialists rise. Their attitude is going to be like, look at these Republicans. Forever wars. You can't afford anything. Vote for us. We're going to give you everything for free. And that's what I'm worried about because I don't see – do you see it? This war is not going to stop. This is the war that everybody said is going to be – even Charlie Kerr, God rest his soul, he said the last thing we want is to get into a war. It's going to be a quagmire in Iran.

1:36:46And look where we are right now. There's no end in sight. But you're right. And it's not about the presidential election, which is in two years. We are exactly two and a half months to midterms. Exactly. 75 days midterms. So that's a very good question to ask, and we can have that conversation. But, Tom, a couple things to be looking at is on the market, the S &P dropped from 78 to 7 ,600. Not a big number. Let's just say it's at 7650. And then you saw Besson said they're going to double down the amount of long-term treasury, the 10-year and 30-years that they're going to buy from whatever, 2 to 4 billion starting September to November.

1:37:23And with the hopes of that maybe measuring off and, you know, getting the economy to be a little bit more stable, are you seeing that that behavior got the market to react positively or the market's like, yeah, that's not going to make a difference? The market went out one night, had some beers over Monday Night Football, and the next morning it slid right back. In other words, I'm joking a little bit, but I'm not. The market had a little celebratory moment when Besant was basically reducing supply of bonds, if you want to think of it that way, to prop up price. And what happened is the market came back a day later and combination, I think PPI came out, producer price index, and they shook off the impact by Besson and it moved.

1:38:10And everybody was like, whoa, Besson was supposed to be - See, that's the bigger problem. If the economy goes in that direction and they're paying a price with, Because right now the economy is mainly hurting who? Who's the economy mainly hurting? The middle class. Low and middle income, the average guy. Which, by the way, say that again? Right. If it hurts them, you need those guys from midterms. Vote, you're going to feel it. And so the last thing you want, if I'm Trump, the last thing you want is the following. You do not want to go into your last two years with the midterms of your candidate losing.

1:38:45Because then that means in 2028, the tweet and the endorsement of MAGA may not mean a lot. So then people will start eating their own. They'll start attacking their own. And so, you know, they'll start distancing. Well, you know, I think the president went a little bit too far. You know, I do like some of the stuff that he did, but I don't support the way he handled Iran. And then legacy is hitting. And then you're going to see Trump attacking every one of those candidates, even though he's not going to be involved. I don't know if that makes sense or not. So if J.D. decides to take that position, it's like, oof, man, now the left is going to be like, awesome.

1:39:18We have civil war. The president went after Pence, and now the president's going after J.D. If he went after Pence, you don't think he's going to – who is Pence today? So you have to realize J.D. has to play a very – he has to maneuver in a very interesting way, and the president has to make sure he maintains his power, his worth, his endorsement, and that's what he's dealing with. And last but not least, this is it for him. This is a legacy. You've got two years left on your contract. That's it. And then after that, you're an ex-president. all the other stuff is you're just going and you're doing speaking you're doing different kind of things but he's got two years to clean this up does he have enough time or not we will see if the war continues that is going to be a massive massive conversation that they're going to be having you know what question I would want to ask the president if I sat down with him you know what I want to ask him right now is say before the war starts and there's a room of conversations, would you have approved killing Khamenei?

1:40:23Were you for that? Or was that Israel? Was it you that wanted to kill everybody, the family, the wife, everybody? The answer to that question leads to his sequence and being out of whack. I don't know if that makes sense. I get it, 100%. If you're in the room and the generals tell you, Tom, hey, we got it, it's going to be like Venezuela trust us, it's going to be good and then you're having a call with Israel and then Israel goes and takes out Khamenei if you do, you're prolonging the war because now you're forcing everybody to be fully committed I want to know if that was his decision or if that was Bibi's decision and that was after, right?

1:41:08the answer to that question is so important on many levels it is so important on so many levels because you know it says they killed them he kept saying they killed them they killed them not we killed them they killed them they killed them so if that happened then that needs to be explained to the market because maybe the i like when you do that right now you're so in too deep that if you don't do anything to iran now the america is going to get hit 5 10 15 20 30 it's going to happen it's just a delayed response to you killing the guys father, wife, and mother, whatever. You killed everybody in his life.

1:41:44And nobody even knows if the guy's alive or not. If Pezashkian is meeting with him in an underground place that you can't even open up and you're hearing somebody and it's so dark, it's like, yeah, I met him. Did you really? Is the guy really alive? What happened? So you've created so much vengeance that you're in too deep. So I don't think he was the guy that called the shots at killing Khamenei. I don't think so. I think he likes to kill number twos and threes. He killed Gassam Soleimani. I think he knows not to kill number ones. I think whoever killed number one is somebody that wants it to be longer because they want it to be done.

1:42:19And you kind of got me into it. It's like, dude, why'd you kill him? You ever seen the movie is a town? I don't know if it's town where one guy kills the guy. What did you do that for? Now we are all going. Like, the plan wasn't, I don't know if it was done. They're robbing a bank. Yeah, this is the one. Oh, no, no, no, Heat. Well, Heat, when they kill the guy that's. You're talking about the town. No, no, no. Like, dude, I can't even go to Godfather 2, that scene. He's in the car. You killed the kids. I'm not blowing up the kid. There's kids in the car. Scarface. Scarface. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

1:42:46It's like, no, we have to. I'm not doing it to the kid. And then that's when it's like you crossed the line. So even somebody like me that was, you know, more knowing what IRGC is about, that the world would be a better place without him, even I said a week before, I think killing the prime minister, it's a permanent war. If you kill the prime minister, supreme leader. If you kill the supreme leader, you have to take out the entire regime. I agree. And you better be confident you can deliver. Yep. So to me, it's a little bit of a, you know. It's not good. It's a little bit of a, you know, tough situation he's in himself.

1:43:28You take out Soleimani, you can get the number one to talk. That's the point. Exactly. So you don't... Well, that didn't really work out like that. Ayatollah wasn't talking after you took out Soleimani. But that outcome then wasn't nuclear. It was a very different thing you're doing. Correct. The outcome there at the Ghassan Soleimani was a very different thing. Now, it's such a binary solution. There is no mid-memorandum of understanding. You have two choices right now. Either they're going to look at you like this, and here's how the negotiation goes. Okay, yeah, memorandum understanding. Okay, we control the Hormuz, you do this, and we will not do anything with nuclear.

1:44:11Okay, okay, all right, he's out. All right, guys, let's go. Let's go get to work. And then let's go attack. And a weaker president's going to come, and then there's going to be an attack on U.S. or military bases. You think these fanatical people are just about money? They're not about money. When you do business with people that are about money, what's honest about it? It's transactional. You're going to make money. I'm going to make money. They're going to make money. Let's move on. This is not just about money. This is fanatical, vengeance, revenge. It's a very different ideology that these guys have.

1:44:41What I want to do is compare and contrast Trump's approach to Obama's approach, whether it's Iran or whether it's even approval ratings right now. Because what Obama was doing, you could argue that Trump did the exact opposite. Obama was doing the, we're so sorry for being America. Let's all be friends. Let's all be nice. And the fanaticals were like, yeah, we're still going to kill you, buddy. So Trump, I think, just recognized, like, you're not going to negotiate with these people. We've been kicking the can down the road for 45 years. I don't think Trump. And I don't. You think Trump, you think Trump called the shots to kill Khamenei?

1:45:14I don't know. I don't want to speculate. I want you to speculate. But I want you to speculate. Look, do I think that Trump is in charge? Yes. You think Trump called the shots to kill Khamenei? I think he ultimately made the decision. He may have been influenced by people who didn't have his best interest at heart, but I think he still made that call, yeah. You think he made the call to kill Khamenei? Ultimately, yeah. See, I don't believe that. There is no pattern showing that's how he does business. And going off of what you said, he always said— He had already bombed Iran multiple times. No, but think about this, though.

1:45:46That's a different story. And he makes a great point because you said one word. You said we. When Trump kills somebody, he goes, I killed him. I killed what's his name? Maybe that's a conversation that you will have. A bar button daddy is dead. I can see him having that conversation with you. I don't think. By the way, just so you guys know, Michael Cohen just interviewed Trump. Because during the podcast, when I interviewed Michael Cohen, he got emotional. And I said, I think the interview will happen. And I shared that with a few people. It was right before an event that we had. Michael Cohen just sat down in front of Trump and interviewed him.

1:46:18Like on an interview, he called in. Nobody ever thought this was going to happen. And even Trump said, it's unfair what they did to you. of course what they did to me so meaning i don't care if i ask the question or somebody else asked the question whoever's watching this whoever's sitting down i want to know who called the shots to kill khamenei because that changes everything for me but i don't think he called the shots i'm not even going to speculate can i get to the my point about the approval ratings i actually think that trump is more stable than obama let me explain obama came in and you know what his highest approval rating?

1:46:5483? It was 70%. 70%. Who hit 81 or 83? I'm sorry, it was Bush after W. W the week after 9-11 was the highest. Obama got up to 69, 70%. Do you know his lowest approval rating was in the mid-30s, 36, 37? That plummeted 30 plus percent points. Trump came in, he was a 45 % guy at best. Trump never hit 50. I'm talking on his best day. So Trump is hovering around 40, whether you like him or not. So now he's hovering in the mid-30s-ish, 34. Trump is what he is. We know what he is. The reality is Trump is who he is. He does what he does. Take it or leave it. Juxtaposing that with Obama, everyone thought Obama was black Jesus.

1:47:44and by the time he left office, it's like, so what did Obama do exactly? He made health care more expensive and he made the White House gay. Are you making it comparing him to Obama? That's all that you can do. Obama will never be in the discussion as one of the greatest presidents of all time. According to who? If you ask liberals, he's the goat. No, no. You're talking about getting stuff done. Trump runs circles around Obama. Obama and Trump. Obama's not in the league of Trump as a leader. It's not even close. But that's your opinion. No, it's not. No, no. I'm with you. Obama made us weaker in front of our people, and Obama was too much of a conformist and people pleaser, and he wanted everybody.

1:48:26But he's so talented. He could sell that story. That's a different story, though. Those are two different things. To me, I won't make the comparison of Trump to him. I think the part that Trump, deep down, and I don't even know. Trump wants people. There's an element of my opinion. There's an element of Trump of after him, he wants people to know he was different, his impact is permanent, it's never going away. That's a good thing and a bad thing. Because you have to also know that eventually when your legacy comes and you move on, he said something in an interview. He says, you know, people forget all the stuff you did for them.

1:49:04All these people, I made their shows. You know what, that's how life is. He said something like this about 18 months ago. And that's good that he's getting in that phase of knowing everybody kind of moves on and they go to the next thing. And that's a very hard thing to accept for a lot of people. This is why a lot of athletes that end up their career getting a divorce immediately, like bodybuilders, athletes, Brady, Michael. It's not easy. It's very, very hard because you went from being a face of everything. But I think he needs to, and I don't think this is fully 5 % chance of this happening.

1:49:40He needs to really realize that post him could be extremely chaotic if he doesn't hand it off the right way. Oh, I fully agree. Because I think he went here. He's here. So the only thing back from this is what? Here. And I think he needs to go here for it to go here. So I don't know. We can go all the way here, but if you're going to go all the way here, you better finish the job. You know what they say. You never go full. Yeah. No, no. I don't know if I'm making sense. Maybe I'm not doing a good job. No, no. The pendulum swings is what you're saying. But Obama's side. And he can control what the pendulum swings.

1:50:15No, no, no. But hold on. What I'm saying is the amount of influence he has in the Republican Party is not the same as what Obama had in the Democratic Party. Maybe at one point he did, but. You don't think it's more than Obama? Oh, it is. Way more. Yeah, it is. Not even close. This guy's a worker, bro. Well, his approval rating is within magnitude. He's a worker. This is an 80-year-old that will do laps by around 25-year-olds. This is an anomaly. This is a very unique case study that you're looking at. But he needs to think about the future of America because the enemy is real. And if you don't realize that the enemy is real and you just say, well, it's your job, you guys handle it.

1:50:52I think, you know, it's like when you're running the baton, what do they call that race where you have to hand over the baton? And what happens if you drop the baton? You lose the race, it's over. I think that handoff needs to be very delicate. Look at that handoff that Biden to Kamala. Disaster. Yeah, but Biden's not a leader. Biden, nobody ever will look at Biden as a leader. Trump's a leader. His library's looking great. No, he raised$4 million for his library. It's a different story. There is no library. So do we want to do a couple last words before we wrap up? Do you want to go to this arrest that happened, Vinny?

1:51:24This woman arrested for allegedly plotting New York State Capitol attack. She looks very friendly. I mean, just the regular American woman that when you see this, if you guys want to play this clip here. This is on the notes. There you have. It's on addendum page six if you want to go to it. So FBI arrested woman Wednesday. Do you have it? Is this it? Go for it. Thank you. Breaking moments ago, the FBI says it disrupted a potential ISIS-inspired terror plot in New York. The agency tells Fox they've arrested a 35-year-old Albany woman accused of plotting to bomb the state capitol and kill lawmakers.

1:51:57According to a criminal complaint, Jessica Bowie pledged allegiance to ISIS and allegedly planned to hide a bomb inside a DoorDash bag, hoping to strike while state senators were meeting. Governor Kathy Hochul expected to speak next hour where we could get more information about all of this. Can we see her picture of what she looks like? Did you have a video of any? Oh, there's some photos of her. There's some show. Look at, can you, just please take a second, guys, and look at what this moron, I'm sorry, Jessica? Jessica, and you have a photo of her. Show her outside because... Muslim lady, right?

1:52:32She's a what. She's what, but she wasn't... Look at... This is... This is... And again, I've said this before. White, liberal... This is not a man. No, that's not a dude, Pat. That's a woman? That's a girl. Sure? Yes. I'm actually not joking. That's not a man. She's actually a girl. No, she's actually a girl. She freaking fled to Syria. Make it great power forward. That's right. Keep going. And this is my point, John. I know you want to say, I can't wait to hear what you have to say. This is the problem with these white, bored, liberal women that have nothing to do. Bro, they have nothing to do.

1:53:09They're so bored out of their minds. There's no men. There's no nothing because they hate us. They have to do, they have to get on causes, BLM, get in front of ICE, do all this. And to be a freaking terrorist. Connor, go back to what she was dressed up as at Home Depot. She's dressed up like this at Home Depot buying bomb-making material. Excuse me, where are the detonators? Yeah, you might as well dress up like Dracula and go to a blood bank and say, I like to make a withdrawal. You are the dumbest person ever. But this just shows you, and look at how dumb she is. She changed her name to Aisha, which, you know, that's Muhammad the Prophet's nine-year-old wife after he freaking, you know, hooked up with her when she was six years old.

1:53:46And she said, she texted stuff like this, praise be to Allah for September 11th. This is a white woman from here. When I migrate, I will poison these infidels. Blowing kafirs brains out is beautiful. I want to destroy as much. These are all quotes. I want to destroy as much as the building as possible and kill senators when they're in meetings. And she wanted to go to the White House, and she was trying to, at some point, kill the president of the United States. Do they know how she was recruited by ISIS? Probably some guy messaged her, but this is what I want people to understand. This is real.

1:54:17If you don't think that they're actual, she's the worst. Why would you start with Albany? Seriously. Hochul has found a way to work with Mandani. Okay. Why would you start with Albany? Why would you start with Albany? Albany is actually helping. Yeah, exactly. So you see that proves normal, rational. I think that proves she's a white lady who pledged allegiance to ISIS. She converted to Islam five years ago. The fact that by itself, obviously no connection to terrorism, but she did. May of 2026, FBI investigators identified online accounts linked to Bowie expressing support for terrorism. She allegedly praised 9-11 like what Jenny just talked about.

1:54:54She formed pledged allegiance to ISIS. Around July 16, things moved from ideology towards operational planning. According to a complaint, Bowie began communicating over an encrypted platform with a confidential FBI source whom she believed was an ISIS facilitator. She allegedly initiated the request for help. complaint says she expressed a desire to conduct a major attack and sought assistance, learning about explosive. The FBI source introduced her to additional confidential sources. Bowie apparently believed these people could help her facilitate ISIS-inspired plans. Her alleged target became the New York State Capitol, and she allegedly wanted to leave America and go to ISIS-controlled territory.

1:55:31By the way, when she did an interview with them, this is what one of the Craig Termoli, special agent in charge of FBI's Albany office, said. Make no mistake about it. The Ms. Boyd alleged plot was serious. It was dangerous and it was foiled. Now, this is what she told them. Ms. Boyd allegedly said, there is no helping me. You guys know enough. I'm going to prison for the rest of my life. Material support is up to 20 years in prison. I already Googled it. John, where are you at with this? I really hope that these people stay this dumb because if they become more intelligent, it can really get dangerous.

1:56:01And no one remembers this, but there was a period in American history in the late 1960s, early 1970s, where we had something like three or five bombings every day in this country being executed by these like leftist terrorist groups like the weather underground and now you never hear about this stuff and in fact a lot of the people who were coordinating this at the time went on to go teach at like prestigious universities so instead of like their terrorists going to jail like we had with j6 that terrorist attack or so they call it those people got like prestigious jobs at universities think tanks things of this nature so this is kind of what we were talking about earlier like whenever the left feels like its back is against the wall it gets pretty agitated pretty scary with what these people are capable of so i hope that they stay this stupid because we've seen what it looks like when they're intelligent, better coordinated, and it gets very violent very quickly.

1:56:44It's actually a very good perspective. I agree with you. What was really crazy in California, and you're bringing it up, is, and it shows you how it was on. When Patty Hearst was kidnapped, they wanted to get money from her family's fortune. Anybody know the story? So Patty Hearst in California. Yeah. Patty Hearst was kidnapped. You know who was her lawyer? Oh. F. Lee Bailey. Yep. Oh, wow. And she was the granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst. And so she was converted. She was convinced and converted to join the Symbionese Liberation Army, whatever that was. And then they said, now we need money.

1:57:21We don't have any financers, so we're going to go knock over a bank. And they all went into a bank wearing berets and no disguise. There it is, Symbionese Liberation Army. I remembered it right. And so they go in there to do that. This is during the 70s. This is during the 70s where you'd have a bomb and a mailbox blows up. You know, the mailbox is at the side of the street. You'd have a bomb and a mailbox blows up. You had all these things going on. And I think what's now is with online, there's more of take a look at what the FBI did. How many of the FBI guys have to be out there? And you know what they're using?

1:57:54You don't want to hear about it. Palantir. They're listening. They're on encrypted platforms. They're on Discord. And they're looking for this stuff. And this is where you see, in the name of safety, that it works. And they find these things. Hey, there's a person over here, a person over there. The millions and millions and millions of calls going on, somehow they filtered it, sniffed it out, jumped in, started tricking her. Yeah, let's talk about sniffing. So Eric Swalwell, the issue he has got illegal donations from suspected Chinese spy bombshell memo show. So what's the story with Eric Swalwell, Vinny?

1:58:30I know you're following this. What happened there? With Fang Fang? Yeah, what happened? What's the recent story with her? Is it Fang Fang or Bang Fang? That was a little joke. That was a three or four. All right, so let me just get that. Hold on, because I have it right. Where is he? Are you following this story with Swalwell? Yeah, he went to an airport yesterday, and they took his phone and his laptop, and they said, we're still investigating you. This time, we want this for evidence on the sexual assault trial. And he apparently stood there in an airport and had to surrender them, correct? Yeah, well, first of all, he was allowing a suspected Chinese, I know we make fun of her, operative.

1:59:02She got access to his political operation, recommend interns. Pat, she was recommending interns to get close to members of Congress. Okay? And then Congress should, I think, I don't know if you guys think, Congress should have background checks for anybody, anybody working in or around you, especially if the time you don't know they just hire interns and they just show up and you'll come on chang li is a nice kid from san francisco yeah exactly like how many times are we going to see china connected to people at the highest levels like we already know think about look at the pattern tom hunter biden and his family dealings with chinese money uh china spy they send the spy balloons over the country for four for four years during biden and they were like no don't shoot it down let it go let it do reconnaissance get to the edge of the water and then they would shoot it down uh all the stuff that we found out of them buying buying land next to our freaking military bases, especially Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, where I was stationed, which was a nuclear base.

1:59:52Then you have Xi Jinping. He shows up to San Francisco. They kick all the homeless people out because they want to make it look good for a leader who is our enemy. All in Twawell's backyard. All in his backyard. On top of all the intellectual property that they stole, China stealing our property, fentanyl, all that stuff, and a little virus that came out of China called COVID. At what point, Pat, she was in there. She was using him. They were probably, hey, with all the freaking blackmail stuff, who knows what she was doing? He's obviously, we've seen him on camera with the girl and on the hotel bed and all that stuff.

2:00:24Who knows what she had, what she was using against him, what access, and what type of secret or whatever. He was on the House Intelligence Committee. It doesn't get more serious than that. So this bothers me. And again, this is China again at work. I know Trump says, yeah, well, we have spies too that are over there. They are way more infiltrated in our freaking government. And again, Tom, COVID came out and there's still zero accountability. I don't care where it came from. Wait a minute. There may not be zero because what happened here? Didn't they also search his home or something? They searched his home on Sunday.

2:00:59Then he wasn't home. And then they tracked him and went to the airport. And then they found him there. So I think there's some accountability coming to him, don't you think? But, Tom, until I see handcuffs, handcuffs and them going to jail, just like all the perp walks they did under the Trump administration, from Roger Stone to everybody, I want to see a Democrat go to jail. Have any of them. Meaning accountability for the actual crime that they did. Not the bogus stuff that they did with Trump. Show me somebody. Who has gone to jail for a Democrat so far? Who was that one congressman, Tom, that had gold or Egyptian gold?

2:01:36Oh, Jerry Nadler? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Bob Mendes. Bob Mendes from New Jersey. That's my bad, Jerry. But was he arrested? One guy? This guy? Yeah, Bob Mendes. But did he get released? I have yet. And again, John, we talk about this. Did he go to jail? Because they confiscated gold bars and stuff. In his jacket. Let's take the economy and the war and the prurates. Put that aside. He currently lives at Federal Penitentiary, Allenwood, Pennsylvania. We wanted, listen, I voted for illegals to get kicked out. I wanted no new wars. I wanted cheaper gas. I wanted all that. And I wanted accountability.

2:02:16We are now down to two years. Comey, okay, he got indicted. The shells were waiting. Is anybody going to go to jail? Is anybody going to go to prison, do you think? Probably not in this administration, no. It's frustrating. I want something. You got to give it to us. We voted for it. We were getting, I was in California. Why do you say probably not in this administration? I mean, we've tried to do stuff and like judges will throw it out or they'll find technicalities. It's tough to use existing law to go after these people. And they're very talented at maneuvering to exploit the system. And so I'm with you.

2:02:48Like I would like to see justice, but unfortunately it's just not being delivered. Because when they're in power, they can do it so much easier. Like with the J6 investigation, they can basically push a button and have the largest DOJ investigation in history. because existing law can be manipulated such that, you know, people walking through the Capitol are equivalent to, like, domestic terrorists or something. And so they're just far better at playing the game. They've got the pieces where they need to be. And so when we're in power, it's like we're trying to cold start an engine that was never meant to run for us.

2:03:14So the fact that they have – so, like, right now, if the DOJ, FBI, everybody wants to go after these people and actually throw the book at them, all these Biden-appointed or, you know, Obama-appointed judges are in there and they just go, nope. I think that it could be done, but we need to work with a longer timeline. And we're not going to have that longer timeline if we don't solve the baseline issues like you're talking about with gas prices, affordability, because, you know, a lot of times people do favors politically for the base. And I think there's a good story to be told, actually, with maybe like Viktor Orban's Hungary, where it's like this is a guy who got in there and he was supposed to be, you know, the real socially conservative.

2:03:45And so he's doing a lot of favors for maybe the more socially conservative people in Hungary, but he was failing to maintain like a basic economic standard. And so the voters punished him for that. And you're going to see a similar thing in America if we don't correct course, where it's like, yeah, you know, we've got the funny tweets. We've got the edits. We could maybe even, if we had the time, give you mass arrests of, like, corrupt politicians. But the voters aren't going to reward that. Because it's like, dude, honestly, like, I maybe appreciate that. I'm a conservative guy. But if I'm still paying$4 at the pump, bye.

2:04:11I'm going to go vote for a Democrat. And you can't blame them for doing that. You know, it's like you say. People experience the economy through grocery prices and gas prices. And no matter what, they're going to assume the man in the White House is responsible for both of those things. Because even if inflation is better, we're still dealing with the hangover from the Biden era. Inflation doesn't matter. Explain that to the average voter. Do you think they care? Probably not. Let me ask you a question, John. What is your position with, you know, youth influencers in the political space, the Hassan Pikers, the Fuentes, the Sisson?

2:04:39And I would also put there's one other guy to put in that camp as well. There's a what is the other one I'm missing? There's one other name. But anyways, what do you think about what's going on with the younger influencers, both on the left and the right? I think that the left does a better job at it than the right does. I think the left is very much trying to drag their party in a productive political direction. You see like Hassan Piker showing face at these events, trying to be something of a kingmaker. The right is much more selfish. We try to do this in a way that's capturing market share, competing with each other.

2:05:06It's become, I'll put it this way, we used to talk a lot about ideas and having discourse, open dialogue. In the past couple of years, everything has become much more about like, well, who are you getting paid by? who's paying you to say that like casting tar on people such that their integrity is called into question and it's like if i don't think you have integrity well then there's nothing for us to talk about because i don't believe that you believe anything you're saying and so it's caused that kind of like civil war dynamic that the left is loving which is why when we saw like the first shots of this a year or so ago already there were articles in the washington post the atlantic new york times telling everybody there's a civil war don't get too sad because trump is president there's a civil war this is all going to be divided and it's not going to be successful Well, it's not going to have longevity.

2:05:44So the left loves this. They're far better at playing the political game than people on the right, especially their influence. How much do you think that the right has suffered because someone like Charlie Kirk is no longer here? I literally could not think of a worse thing to happen. He was the second most important figure for conservatives aside from Trump himself. I mean, nobody could reach people, let alone young people the way Charlie Kirk could, which is why, I mean, everyone talks about who stood to benefit the most. The left probably stood to benefit the most, which is why millions of them celebrated it.

2:06:10I mean, normal Americans who are maybe apolitical saw their liberal friends and co-workers and relatives celebrate this. And they're like, I just saw this guy debating people on Instagram. Why are you celebrating his death? So it's almost like they understood how important he was more than a lot of conservatives. Like, I remember when I was, you know, 18, 19, I was like, Charlie Kirk says this. And I think that this is the right way. I was trying to, like, outflank him from the right. Now I realize how important this guy was. You know, it's not always about being the most right guy in the room.

2:06:35It's about building coalitions, working. How do we move the ball down the field? And clearly nobody could do that. like Charlie Kirk? Who are you seeing doing that right now? Nobody coalition right now. I think Trump and Vance are trying to hold something together, but it's extremely difficult because, you know, Charlie was the guy who could reward people for playing the game. Hey, you play the ball, you do what you're supposed to do. You can come to my events. You can speak. We'll give you rewards for good behavior. Now, absent that incentive structure, it's a knife fight. Everyone just wants to.

2:07:02It's about me. It's about me. You're lying. You're lying. And everyone goes viral casting, you know, arrows at each other. So it's extremely unproductive. Interesting. All right. And also, you know, I mean, we've said it before. We'll say it again. The famous quote, when you're young, if you're not a liberal, you have no heart. So there's a lot of young people that are liberal. I was liberal growing up. And then you have to realize that truth and facts are not on your side. But what Charlie did not only just reward the influencers, he would show up to your college campus. He would show up. You would have events.

2:07:29So he would put himself out there. What the left is better at doing is organizing and showing up. so I mean the famous Thomas Sowell story he's like I was a Marxist why because the Marxist would come on campus and teach me and then eventually you know facts showed up and he ended up becoming obviously an economic conservative and one of the greatest thinkers of our life I think after Charlie the right needs to sort of take a step back and say Trump's not going to be here forever we can't all just wait for Trump to come to our town to do a rally who's going to show up in your area, in your town, in your college, and step up and teach and help young people understand if you go too far left, everything's over in this country.

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