Midterm Exit Polls, JD Vance on Why Voters Flipped & DeSantis’ Warning to the GOP | PBD #885

0:01Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so pissed I could taste sweetly bit furry. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed. It's right here. You are a one-on-one? My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before.

0:25So I think I'm going to share this with you. It's a little bit vulnerable, but Tom this morning is doing something to us we don't like. And it was very uncomfortable. This entire time he's trying to say, do you guys want to play Ouija board tonight? Who the hell wants to play the Ouija board? Leave this alone. You know, everybody has a bad story with Ouija boards. I don't know. We should play. We should gather tonight at the cigar lounge and play Ouija board. Who says something like that, Tom? So I'm just telling you right now, I'm not open to that idea. Okay. I know you like playing games like that.

0:49You got to get serious, Tom. This is life. After the election, I have to try something. Nine on ten by Tom. Some of the stories that was shared this morning was very weird, but that's how this works, you know, and then we get into all the stories that we got. Scott Jennings, I don't know if you guys saw the video or not, Scott Jennings decides yesterday, out of all the people to go after Viva, he decides to go bonkers on Vivek. What did Vivek do to you, Scott? I mean, Scott, you could have been a little bit more, if you haven't seen this clip, we got to show it to you with Scott Jennings. He went off.

1:22Then apparently there's stories about the fact that Hex said may get fired. Some people are saying he's going to get fired. Trump's asking people, Ron, hey, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? Should we fire him? Do you think he's doing a good job? And those kinds of conversations are taking place. So he may have that. J.D. Vance has a tweet. You can tell immediately two people who jumped and saying, ooh, this is my opportunity to get in for 2028. One is him. The other one is Ron DeSantis. Vance sends a tweet out calling out the president on why the midterm was the way that it was.

1:52And the president was forced to react to it. And there's a video we're going to play to where the president kind of agrees a little bit. But he says, nothing I can do, but I still got to do what I got to do. But we have to look at Vance's tweet. It's not one of those novel Bill Ackman type of tweets, but it's pretty long. I wouldn't say it's a Trump type of long tweet, but it's pretty long. The exit poll says why 88 % of voters, what was the number one issue for 88 % of voters on the exit polls. We have to talk about that. And then Musk and Trump having a conversation about Trump having to pardon Musk because they're worried that they're going to go preemptive pardon.

2:28You know, some people sell those for$50 million. If you want one, I mean, there's some people that are selling those for$50 million. By the way, let me tell you what's crazy. I get the craziest Minnets all the time. Sometimes some weird man-ex I get. I send them to Vinny like girls want to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Vinny does 15 minutes. But this guy man-ex me today saying, hey, is there any way you can put me in contact with the people at the White House to see if I can get a pardon? 22-year-old, that's a felon. A great use for man-ex. I'm like, do you realize, what are you doing? You're not asking a question like this.

2:58But I say, can I help you? You can talk to a lot of other people. This guy cannot help you. Although Alina Haba has a rate card for that. Yeah, it was 50 million. and Trump wasn't happy about that. But biggest winners and losers. We've got to talk about that. Biggest winners and losers. There's Zelensky that's celebrating a little bit that they won because he knows Democrats are going to be more pro him than Trump. Trump kind of pushes him a little bit. Democrats are blind loyalty to him, which they would benefit. And you should see the celebration. Ilhan Omar, if you like to see her dance, she was showing.

3:28Remember when I was dancing at the VOL conference? I was doing Armenia. You've got to see her crip walk was phenomenal. Seriously? I'll show you the video. Can't wait. It was actually very impressive when she was celebrating. We're going to talk about the biggest winners and losers. I want to show you something that everybody is thinking it's the end of the world, and it's not. I'm going to show you a number, two of them, for you to see, for some of the people that are selling you fear porn, end of the world, all this other stuff. Then you'll kind of see what adjustments some people are making and what I think Trump's going to be doing next two years.

3:57I want to actually ask you guys as well what you think Trump's going to be doing next two years. Scott Galloway you know, Jennings there's two Scots we have to be careful with Scott Jennings went after Vivek but he went after Vivek for the way he campaigned Scott Galloway went after Musk for his life like it was, I don't know if you guys saw the clip or not crazy these Scots have a bad temper we gotta be careful with these Scott Galloway and Scott Jennings Calci had a big day, Ilan I don't know if you saw Calci this morning, I think both Ilan and Vinny are gonna put some money on Calci trading.

4:30They learned something about Calci this morning. I love that. If you put it in, you don't have to wait until the very end. You can take your money out because it's like a stock. You don't have to wait until the company... I love it. Khamenei... You spit all over. You might get electrocuted. This mic is... Khamenei comes out and tweets something as if he's alive. But allegedly, he's alive tweeting in a bunker. He's tweeting out there about Trump and U.S. Then stock market. People are asking, what happened to the stock market? Why'd it go up? Tom's got a very, very good perspective of what's going there.

5:01And an insight of Texas and Georgia having to do with data centers. We'll go into that. Tyler Rico sends a tweet, allegedly, saying the white man is the problem. So to all the white people that are watching this, I got some stats I want to share with you. To all the white folks in Texas on what happened to you from 1970 till today. It's very important specifically for white people. You want to say white properly? White. It's white. No, it's white. That's the racist test. People make fun of my accent. I do my best. I'm hot. California got one thing right. The wealth tax for California, Prop 40 and Prop 42.

5:35Prop 42 looks like it's going to end up passing, which means there won't be a wealth tax in California. Ro Khanna had a rough night. No one's talking about Ro Khanna. That's a very good sign. It's a very good sign for California. Although Nithya Rahman, the socialist left of Karim Bass, like a Mamdani even left of Mamdani, is allegedly going to be beating Karim Bass. So Karim Bass has to step away, and L.A.'s got a beautiful socialist marriage. Don't you love that? All the homelessness in campus is going to increase. It's going to be phenomenal. Maloney in Italy is worried about her millionaires leaving, so she's proposing a wealth tax, kind of like Canada.

6:06If you're going to leave, Vinny, you have to pay the wealth tax before you leave. And then Johnny Depp is whispering that he may do Pirates of the Caribbean. We have to talk about that. And on the ballot, do you know Idaho had on the ballot on what's going to be the best gun for the state? I love it. They voted for their favorite gun for the state. And when I read this to you, this is Idaho. I don't know what the number is, but they have a high percentage of people that carry there. Like, you literally will go there while you're having dinner at, you know, your restaurant. You'll put all the guns on there, and they'll excuse us.

6:38Can we move this? You got the AK-47 stuff. Let me move the M16. Here's your clam chowder, Viva. Enjoy the clam chowder. Bunch of rounds on the table in Idaho. It doesn't look like that, but that's just the visual I'm giving you. It's the only way I eat. Yeah. And then we got a couple other things we'll get into. So I want to show you guys a video of how it depicts what happened to Texas and then what happens with people going from California, because it became too blue, to Texas, to Florida, and then we'll get into that. So with that being said, you know what shirt I'm wearing? I'm wearing a shirt from Abraham Lincoln that says, future looks bright with his nice shades that he has because we firmly believe.

7:16There is nobody, if you want to upset your enemy, your haters, people who look at you as if you have to be defeated. Nothing irritates your enemies and your critics more than you staying confident about the future, looking bright and having hope. Do you know what pissed off Hitler the most in Germany? Christians. He hated Christians. Why? Because they believed everything was going to work out and they were not afraid of him. They're like, God's in charge, buddy. I don't care how powerful you think you are. God's million times bigger than you. It's infinite times bigger than you. There's nothing you can do.

7:52If you want to piss off your enemies, if you want to piss off all the people that are thinking you're worried, go out there and say, buddy, future looks bright. I got nothing to worry about. I'm going to do my part. A mentor of mine back in the day, a man named Greg said something very powerful, stuck with me until today. I was 23 years old the first time he said this. He said, pray like it's up to God, but work like it's up to you. And as long as we do that, we're going to be squirted away. Last time we had dinner with Steve Owen, his father. It was a three-hour. We should have recorded that fight.

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9:18With that being said, let's get right into it. Reaction, number one reaction. So right after the election is done, midterms, numbers, everybody is sitting there and saying, oh my God, this is the worst day ever. Cannot believe how many seats was flipped. What's going to happen here? Do you know Trump lost how many seats? Plus minus is what? 40, 41? Some are saying 40, but it's going to end up being 41. Do you know what Bill Clinton and Obama, don't show it yet, what do you think is the most seats they lost, Tom, when they were president? Obama and Clinton. What do you think is the amount of seats?

9:51I have it in front of me, and I'm not going to answer it. Okay, so what do you think the number is? Elon, I'll come to you guys. I know it's a lot something commensurate. Oh, I would have not guessed that. You would have not guessed that. What do you think the number is? I would have thought. By the way, in 2018, Trump lost, I think, 24 seats. But what do you think is the most Clinton and Obama lost when they were president? on their second term, what do you think it is? Watch this. You ready? Pull it up. Clinton in 94 lost 54 House seats. I would have never guessed that. Obama's record, 63 House seats.

10:21And Trump's at 40 and 25. Meaning, even though you're seeing all the stuff that's taking place, the seventh Senate, what's the numbers? Let me read it to you. Seven Senates, 40 House, five Governors, five Attorney Generals, eight State Chambers. By the way, Texas not only lost Governor, they lost. Senate and they lost AG because Ken Paxton, who was the AG, steps out to go out there and become the senator. He lost the AG. That went to the left and the state and the governor. But in the past, this shellacking has happened before. And by the way, when Obama lost 63, guess what he did? He still went and got a lot of things done.

10:55So for me, when you see a number like this, Tom, I'll come to you first. And by the way, can you pull up the other tweet as well? I wanted to find out, over the years, how often has the House been controlled by Democrats? You think it's more Republican? You think it's more Democrat. I mean, you saw it right there, so take a look. Look at this right there. 31. Controlled. Democrats. All the way through. Keep going. Republicans had it for a couple times there, but it's blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue. Look at that. Go back up. Look how many years, Vinny. Go back up. Look at it.

11:25From 56 all the way to 94, Vinny. Since Eisenhower, an incredibly popular wartime president that got it with him from then on. Then he got Republicans from 96 to 2007, then Obama comes, then Republicans, eight, then left, four, then Republicans. So now, this thing that people see thinking it's the end of the world, but I'll come to you, Tom, first. With everything that happened, we're going to get to the J.D. Vance tweet here in a minute. Matter of fact, let's just get into it so we can set it up. Here's what J.D. had to say. One of the most important data analysts in our site observed over what's composition, whether the electorate looked close enough to 20-24 Republicans to win.

12:06And despite polls that showed a Democrat blowout, the data kept on telling us the same story. In some states, turnout was merely okay. In other states, it was downright amazing. And in no state was it catastrophic. There was a genuine self of optimism on our team. Our people were showing up. So I asked the smartest data guy I know, does this mean we're going to shock the world? No, he told me. We might do better than the polls suggest. Is this the right tweet? Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Yeah, right. I'm going to go to this one. We lost. There it is. So another pollster, one of the smartest people I know in politics, told me yesterday we'd lose the generic ballot by 13 points.

12:39I felt negative going into Tuesday. But even I was shocked by this. In his polling, he saw that a lot of Trump 2024 voters were angry and planning to vote for Democrats. He asked those voters who had abandoned us would cause them to come back on our team. The top four answers accounting for nearly all of the responses were end of the war. Number two, focus on cost of living, inflation. Number three, put America first. Number four, change our relationship to Israel. Our voters showed up, and the above four reasons are why many of them voted for Democrats. This is according to a poster who nailed the results.

13:13Can you go to Trump reacting to J.D.'s tweet here? Here's what Trump had to say to J.D. when he was asked, what do you think about what J.D. had to say on why we lost? And here's what he had to say. Go for it. Lost last night was the war in Iran. Well, I think it's largely true because it drove the gasoline up a little bit short term. And probably that's probably it's true. But at the same time, if I had it to do again, I'd have to do it again because long term, it's the only answer. You can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. Do you feel like it was more good? I do. I mean, well, you have no choice.

13:49I mean, I thought the world would go a lot more and I did it on that. The plus minus, the historic, you know, you know, my God, it's the end of the world. JD's reaction to the four things. Where do you stand with it? Well, I hate that this happened, but this is a midterm result. I took it in the chops. Thank you very much for, you know, underwriting decision 2026. You crushed it. You were a star. Well, but also it was VT Analytics. And you're an investor. You invest in things. And we invested in our own numbers. And when we came out and said, look, 85 % chance it's going to be 55 and 1. There's one independent out there.

14:20But he votes with the Democrats. That's 56-44. So we were right. I had people calling me, you know, Israel's bitch and worse and stuff. And I'm like, why is your head in the sands? This happens in a midterm and the people are legitimately upset and they need a better product. What I think is really interesting, why did Clinton and Obama, I have a different take, Clinton and Obama lost worse at the midterms because they touched the third rail of health care costs. Both of them did. Remember, Clinton tried to do a nationalized health care. And remember, Lewinsky was second term and he got slammed.

14:54Now, she may have been working in the first term, but people found out about her in the second. I want to give her credit for her hard work. Well, I once saw – I want you to undermine her. He was grateful for her. By the way, I once saw a very inappropriate chart that showed the stock market versus the days that Lewinsky was allegedly visiting the president. And there was a correlation. So I was thinking, wait a minute. If this is correlated, maybe we should just keep the president happy and the economy will charge. Inappropriate, but I get the joke. So it wasn't my joke. It came off Wall Street.

15:26So 54 for Clinton, 63 for Obama when Americans really freaked out. And so what it shows me is when the Dems think that they've got everything together and they start to push Dem Dem things. You know what happens? The American people have historically in very recent history come back and said no, thank you. And they were no thank you harder at those midterms. But we have to look at it straight. The product that we ended up showing, that the conservatives ended up with, with all those things that J.D. Vance said was not a product that people want. And guess what? They called them the defectors. And there were the independent votes defected and the new Republicans.

16:09Remember all those Republicans that registered 2024 and afterwards? Ron DeSantis talked about the ones that registered in Florida. They defected, too. Remember, Byron won, but look at the margin of victory. It wasn't five, six, seven points as predicted. It was tight until 10 o 'clock. Is it the end of the world, Tom? No. The future looks bright because we fix some of those things, similar to what J.D. says, and we get us going back where we should and let the voice of the people be heard. And I think things are going to go back. Is the road going to be easy? No. We have seven senators that have a six-year lifespan now, political lifespan, that are there that are not going to get unseated.

16:49you know so you know for six years viva so we got work to do well the future looks bright first thing i think that pollster that smartest man that jd vance knows is richard barris people's if i had to guess and the issue is that people have been warning about these things for a very long time and people had their either heads in the sand or were demonizing the people sounding the alarm it's not i mean it's catastrophic but it's not extinction level like like de santis is suggesting but the highlights the problem where trump is saying okay, I would do it again with Iran. But what is the it? Because the issue was there were moving targets, multiple goals with the intervention in Iran.

17:25It went from regime change to freeing the Iranian people to no nuclear weapon, which ought to have been, or we were told was resolved after Operation Midnight Hammer, where people were like, okay, we don't like it, but if it's a pinpoint strike and limited, fine. Then it became a moving target where you don't even know what the goal is. You don't know when you've achieved it. And Trump coming out now and saying, I do it again when after eight months of a non-war that's not a never-ending war, but it's still a war and it's still ongoing, and we don't know if we've achieved the goal. I mean, that leaves a lot of uncertainty where people are like, I don't even know what the goal is anymore, but we warned you against this.

17:56It's had the impact we predicted, and now we're defecting and we're trying to show you, you know, teach you a lesson. Yeah, great point. It became Viet-Ron. Well, I'm going to take an unpopular opinion. I haven't heard that. Actually, that's not bad. I've been heavily outspoken against the messaging around the war, regardless of how you feel, whether it was justified or not. The messaging has been terrible, and the goalposts have changed consistently. We still don't know what the objective is. Even right now, as he says, we might go back in. We don't know what the objective is. But I want to talk about something else that I think is going on.

18:21I opened up my—and I've been screaming that this is going to happen for a very long time, just for a different cause. I've been saying that Israel will be the Trojan horse that ushers in the DSA, socialism, Islamism. And I studied mass psychosis. I did a documentary on mass psychosis. Okay, and what we see right now in society is very akin to COVID, very akin to the Salem witch trials. where you have a real grievance in society. You have a very real grievance, the economy. And every single, if you look at every single thing that J.D. Vance listed there, can all be tied back to Israel. That's what every single person does.

18:52They take the Iran war and they go, Trump is secretly working for Israel. And I opened up my Instagram to our taxes, the reason you don't have universal health care. We even saw the ad that came out for Abdul El-Sayed, secretly because of Israel. And it's become a singular point to justify all the grievances that you experience. And this has been infiltrating the right for a very long time. I've been talking about it. People are underestimating the America First movement. They're underestimating the impact it's having. And the new you're a witch is now you're Israel First. And people don't realize how powerful that actually is.

19:22I turned on my Instagram today. I got video after video after video after video. I don't know if you're in my algorithm of videos telling you I was happy I didn't vote because a vote for Trump would have been a vote for Israel. Or they're both the same party and I get the same thing, which is a war for Israel. Repeated over and over and over all over social media. some of it organic, some of it pushed by foreign adversaries who are now celebrating exactly what's happening, and it has managed to fracture the right. And again, I've been warning against this for a very long time. If Israel disappears today, our economy doesn't suddenly get better, doesn't suddenly solve our problem, but they're still going to be able to use it because that's how mass that goes.

19:57But with all that said, you cannot dismiss the obvious blatant influence that AIPAC and them, and let's just be honest, Even put Israel aside Lindsey Graham, the Wall Street Journal article Pat, do you remember it? It was called Lindsey's quest to sell Trump on Striking Iran. It was a huge Article where Lindsey's in there and we know How Trump is. Trump is a ego Alpha and he's probably, you know what he said to him? He goes, when I say Roosevelt, what comes to your mind? He would, everybody, bro, everybody Was selling him on this war And when it comes to the J.D. Vance thing, Pat I'm kind of like whatever with J.D.

20:33Vance because you don't need Four, what were the four? End the iran war focus on the cost of living inflation what was the other one put america first change our relationship all of those you only need one no you only need one one put america first i don't know why it's at number three okay they're all the same thing that exactly that alone covers everything end the war bring down the cost of living all that stuff but what about everything else like think about the corruption that's happened that we're that we're seeing even with what's her name alina haba and all these freaking uh people lack of answers that you mentioned about the Epstein thing, which to me was huge.

21:04And then we were basically told, shut up. It's old news. Move on, which I didn't like about that. And then going after all these political people, Ilhan Omar, Pat, you were joking about she's crip walking. Are we just forgetting about the brother and this and the investigation and all that stuff? Billions in fraud. Yeah, exactly. And nothing's happening. So, but bro, putting America first was the entire reason this movement existed. But I do want to say one thing too, Pat. Tuesday night, disaster. Iran war, mistake. Gas prices, okay. But I want everybody to understand, don't forget, all you people that are talking at me and coming at me online, I can care less.

21:39If you forget for one second what Donald Trump went through and what he did to get to where he was at, mistakes have been made, okay? But from the beginning, remember, 99 % Hillary's going to win. He came in, he won, and the moment he won, what happened? Cuomo, CNN, everybody and their mother, Russia, Putin, Assad, he fought. I don't know how he did anything right in those four years, Pat. Every day, investigation, he still did his job and still had to go against everybody, the whole swamp, all of them. And despite that, besides COVID, which you guys know my take with China and everything, look at what he did.

22:14Destroyed ISIS, unemployment 50-year low, appointed three Supreme Justices, historical tax cuts. 2020 came and they ruined him. They impeached him. They tried to shoot him. Yes, he's not perfect. Yes, we're in bad shape. The midterms showed whatever, but don't sleep on what he did and don't forget about what Donald Trump did for this freaking country while everybody was against him. I want to share this with you. Great insight, all of you guys going through this. And all of that saying, hey, it comes down to putting America first. I'm going to show you this. Clinton's approval rating right after the loss I showed you dropped to 37%.

22:51Okay? When he was done on his second term, you know where he was at? 66%. Okay? 66. 66%. Then you go to Obama. Obama dropped to 38%. And then when he left office, 60%. Okay. So the profile of a guy like Donald Trump in life, how many times do you think he's had a public humiliating loss? Trump, many. I would imagine that many. Do you think this ranks in the top 10? Yes. Okay, where do you put this in the most humiliating loss? You don't need to qualify it as humiliating, but let's say devastating. Yeah, where do you put that? I mean, it's top three. You think it's top three? I say it's number one.

23:32I don't think it is. I think 2020 was number one. Okay? I think when he lost to Biden, that was the one that kind of, by the way, bankruptcy, he's about to lose everything. He's going to go broke. $900 million he owes to the bank. He has no clue what to do. There's been so many marriages, first one, second one, all these things that came up, you know, issues. But this is going to be a top three issue for him on what he went through. The part that people underestimate, when you go through the seven characteristics of somebody that has what it takes to be a president, what's number four? Fearlessness, how they step back from controversy and what they do with it.

24:10What do you think he's doing? You think he went to sleep and just relax and kick? You don't think he has a strategy right now, what he's going to be doing? You don't think he's going to go back and regroup and come back with different thoughts and ideas? He's going to be thinking that. How much of this is going to be happening? in, you know, what things he can change, what things he can't change. Who knows? But you better believe his DNA and his wiring is he's going to come back. Today, if you look at the stock market day after election, I think it was, I don't know the exact number, but let me kind of, Tom, if you look at it yesterday, yesterday was up what?

24:381 ,400, 1 ,500? 1 ,500. And then that was up again today. And when you think stock market, Tom, why is the sentiment of the stock market up? Why are people happy about the stock market being up? So people are happy about the stock market being up. That means your 401ks, your personal investment, your little Robin Hood account, anybody who's in the stock market is okay. Calamity didn't happen. Now, what are the markets? Markets hate uncertainty more than they hate any political party. They hate uncertainty even more. Uncertainty is Satan. The S &P, that's the broadest measure of American business, and it voted with its wallet.

25:13You know what it did, Pat? 2 % move on day one wasn't noise. That was institutional money repositioning. A divided government means less radical policy swings in either direction, and the markets love it. The NASDAQ rallied on Wednesday. It was really, really incredible. The futures were down a little bit today, but the AI chip trade is moving. Why? Because Texas and Georgia have Democrat governors that are going to change their position on data centers. Data centers that are getting built create demand for chips. So there's a little bit going on there, but the markets love the fact that they can predict.

25:46Gridlock. They love gridlock. And by the way, I'm not going to say who it was because I'm not going to call out because I don't particularly like a couple of the reporters on this. But they correctly today as they opened up the pre-market show on one of the business news channels, they were playing talking heads. We're on the road to nowhere. Come on inside. It's a really old talking head song. But the underlying message was Washington's on the road to nowhere. They're not going to the right. So guess what? We can just ride. And that's what happened. So, so JD jumps in about, you know, Hey, making sure upon, how much of this tweet do you think it is to let the market know I'm slightly different than Trump?

26:29How much you think it is? 63 million views. How much you think this is like lobby and positioning for 2028? I was going to say more for 2028 than for the market. For sure. But, but for him to kind of identify that, Hey, I'm different than Trump. I'm not like Trump. And I was always sort of the back behind the doors opposing the first place. and this was not my fault, and this was not despite my... But I tell you, there's also a video clip, I don't know if we have in the back or not, where, you know, J.D. came up and defended the war against Iran. I don't know if you remember that clip or not. 2024.

27:01He was the first. No, no, 25. I don't know what it was. He was one of the first that came up. Is this it? Yeah, go for it. Play this clip. Watch this. The most important part, I think, of the Trump doctrine and foreign policy is you don't commit America's troops unless you really have to, but when you do, you punch and you punch hard. I think that's the way that you respect America's brave men and women who are serving. Now, let me say something about... When you say that, does that, like, for example, how President Trump beat the caliphate? It was overwhelming force, and it was done pretty fast.

27:28How President Trump beat the caliphate, beat ISIS, which people said literally couldn't be done, and he did it in a matter of months. But also Iran, Sean. A lot of people recognize that we need to do something with Iran, but not these weak little bombing runs. If you're going to punch the Iranians, you punch them hard, and that's what he did when he took out the money. So this is going to come back. And what's the exact date on this one? Now, J.D. is coming out saying, I'm not, you know, I'm different. I'm this, I'm that. He has to. He's trying to distance himself, right? Not distance himself, but just position himself in a different place.

27:59DeSantis, two days before midterms, said what was going to happen on the Stephen A. Smith podcast. Then he comes up, and if you have the clip of what he said afterwards of how bad of a night it was, if he can pull up DeSantis, there was a speech he gave. I don't know the exact words he used, but he said something about it was one of the worst nights in the Republican, you know, party in 100 years. Go ahead. This is the clip. But let's just be clear about what happened last night. This is close to an extinction level event for Republicans in many parts of the country, as we have seen probably in the last hundred years.

28:36in January when everyone in office leaves who were either term limited or got voted out, of the 10 largest states in this union, only one state will have Republican control of their state, the state of Florida. If you look at our chief rival in a healthy sense, the state of Texas, And I would say over the last, over my lifetime, Texas has been the crown jewel of Republican politics. I think we've been the leader for Republicans and conservatives since I've been governor. But if you go over the whole generation, no one holds a candle on the Republican side to the Lone Star State. And yet, not only did they lose a very highly publicized U.S.

29:21Senate race, they lost everything. The governor, attorney general, all the other statewide. They lost four Republican Supreme Court justices on the Texas Supreme Court. They may even lose the Texas legislature or one house or even both. Let's just be clear. That is going to hurt not just for the next two years. That's something that can reverberate for the next decade or more. And if the Republican Party doesn't have Texas as an anchor, then we are not going to be viable nationally going forward. And by the way, you can pause it right there. So you got J.D. jumps in immediately. DeSantis, you know, and by the way, while we were having a conversation at the wedding, one of the main topics at the wedding, can bring up names with people that I talked to, was Donald's can't lose.

30:10And by the way, it got very close. It was 100 ,000 votes. It was a lot closer than it should have been. Very, very scary. The main reason why he won is because of Ron DeSantis. Yeah. The number one reason why Byron Donald's won is because of Ron DeSantis. You can say whatever you want. The main reason. Number one reason was Ron DeSantis. but when Ron is saying this, can you go to the Calci numbers? What is Calci telling us? So if you go to Calci right there, pre-election, pre-election, go to November 1st, November 2nd. Look where Ron's at. Vinny, look at this. On November 2nd, he's at 3.9%. JD's at 35.

30:47Rubio's at 23.5. Come to today. Come to today. Go all the way to today. You got to get on it so I can see the numbers. Ron goes to 18. Rubio's at 21. J.D. drops to 31.9. He 6X'd his chances of becoming a president, and he came up. And a lot of people right now are saying he may even be above those two because the way they're breaking it down, they're saying, well, you know, Rubio is tied to Iran. J.D. hasn't necessarily built a lot of coalitions. You know, Ron DeSantis has had a track record as a governor, executive running a state for two terms, and he's done a pretty good job. And guess what?

31:27But the guy that came after him also won because of him, which is who? Byron Donald. So who do you think, in regard to who now, you know, rises up as a potential 2028 candidate, who do you see, Tom? Well, 2028 candidate, I mean, Ron DeSantis just came up in the eyes of so many people. Republicans everywhere are looking to Florida. So you know how sometimes, Pat, everybody is like, you know, 140 characters is their news, right? They don't really pay attention. Even the most distracted Republican has got to look to Florida and go, wow, you know, governor and senator. Wow. Florida pull together. Maybe the Florida stuff's real.

32:07And what it does is elevates. Now, why was this? Everybody's talked about Ron DeSantis. Interesting. A guy got to look at. So that's what you're seeing right here. You're seeing this big spike here. I believe that the two guys that jumped up the day, the morning, the minute after this election was done, and there's still things being called, and I think the Dems are going to get to their 241 seats in a house, is this, Ossoff and DeSantis. You've got major PACs that are out there, and I've seen things out there. Big PACs are moving money, and Ossoff and DeSantis were the benefactors. but DeSantis has leaped in the Republicans and Ossoff has gone into damn orbit on the Democrat side.

32:51Yeah, if you look at this, go from where Ossoff was at. No, no, go back a little bit. Yeah, go back right there. He's at second place at 15%, Newsom 69, AOC 14, and then all of a sudden go to today? Yeah, he's gone up to 27. He's suborbital now. He's on the space. But these things shift so much in the span of two months, three months, never mind two years. The thing with DeSantis is last time he kind of lost steam. I don't know what it was about his campaign. Terrible marketing. Yeah, and so he fixed that. And by the way, nobody wanted DeSantis in 24. There's only one person. People wanted Trump for redemption.

33:29DeSantis got in. That was my point. What I'm saying to you, a lot of people wanted Trump to come in to redeem himself. To redeem himself. And DeSantis could handle it in a different way, but things change. People change, things change. It's a different season right now. Go ahead. That's what I was going to say. Like back in the day when we moved down to Florida, it was like you move to Florida, but you don't support DeSantis for president. I'm like, no, it has to be Trump right now because of the history that led to this moment. It's not DeSantis's time. He's a great governor. And I think he'll be he will make a great potential presidential candidate.

33:58But it wasn't his time then. It needed to be Trump. Trump needed to come in and carry out the transformational presidency that he had the opportunity to carry out. What drives me nuts is that he didn't. And to go back to what you said earlier about what it means to be a successful man, you've got to not be afraid of loss. but you got to learn from it. And when people are sort of now blaming the people who were raising the criticism or not learning the lessons, what Trump needs to do is fire the yes men that were in his circle that kept him siloed from what the criticism was of the people that handed him this defeat.

34:26And if he doesn't fire them, you might not... Who should he fire? I would say get rid of Susie Wiles, who seems to be the gatekeeper. Fire Wiles. Get rid of Wiles. And I would say get rid of the social media team that instead of listening to what was going on from the people that elected him, instead decided to call them all sorts of names and demonize them and serve them what people knew was coming a year and a half in advance. So fire Susie Wiles and fire the social media team? That's your position? Do you agree with them, Tom? No, I don't think it's a comms issue. I love you, dude. You're thinking of it that it's an internal and a communications issue.

35:00It's not. I think the guy, when the boss starts asking around about you, Hegseth, and you were 64 % approval and you started a war and gas is$4 a gallon, I'm sorry. That's not communications. That's a pink slip. And I think Hegsus is the one that's going to be in the crosshairs. And I'm not just following what's out here. I've also seen, you know, we like Pete. You know, he's been on the podcast. He wrote a great book, Spirit of the American Soldier and everything. I like that. But there's things here I think this is the guy that's going to be first. Well, 100 % it's going to follow. You think he's going to get fired next 30 days?

35:39Can you run a poll real quick? Do you believe Hexeth will be fired in the next 30 days? Yes? No? And check the calcium markets on that. I mean, guarantee there's a calcium market on the first two months. I think Hexeth. But I'm end of year. But getting rid of Hexeth is the symptom. It's the issue is who is making these picks? Who is keeping Trump in a silo where he thought that a war with Iran would be popular? You think that's Susie Wilde? I don't think he cared if it was popular. You guys are misunderstanding. Trump has been—I have a video from 1987 where Trump is talking about Iran. And you see him talk about it every 10 years.

36:11Mentioning Cargillin by name. By name, talking about his whole plan, talking about taking the petrol and the oil. This is not new for Trump. That's what I don't understand, why people keep talking about this. Pulling up a video from 10, 20 years ago is different than the campaign from 2024. I know where he said no new wars. But if he, Trump is the kind of guy where if he genuinely believed that the threat is there. And again, as much as we try and say every two weeks, every two weeks they were saying this, every two weeks. It was the UN's own committee for watchdog for nuclear proliferation that came out with the report.

36:43It was Tulsi Gabbard, who is by no means a war hawk, who came out and said, they're getting close. Wait, wait. After she's—no, no. She first said they didn't. That's right. And they went to her and they said, no, no. Not them. It's the UN watchdog. I don't believe that. They confirmed 60 % proliferation of nuclear material. They confirmed— So who's responsible for effing it up, meaning everything that they told him would be easy? I'm not even proud of the Iran war. No, I understand that. But who was in his ear that said, hey, trust me, this is going to be easy. I know you're going to talk about it.

37:17You're going to bring it back. No, no, no, no. I'm not bringing it back. It was. Who? Netanyahu. No, no. I'm not bringing it. I'm not even talking about Netanyahu. I'm saying who was it Pete Hexet that was like, bro, we're going to bomb them and it's going to be over quick. Who is it? You think Hexet said that? No, I know. That's what I'm trying to say, Pat. He thinks Netanyahu. Well, first of all, I won't say who it was, although it's now sort of the leaked secret is that it was Netanyahu saying, yeah, this will be another Venezuela. And apparently Rubio behind closed doors was saying it's not going to be another Venezuela.

37:44But he's surrounded by a bunch of yes men who said, go ahead and do it. What does that have to do with Susie Wiles? Well, I'm saying that's the part that I'm questioning. Chief of staff who picks what Trump hears and what gets to him. I mean, I think Susie Wiles is the gatekeeper. And if I'm wrong about that, the problem is Trump. And it's hard to hear that. It's who he is and what he wanted to do. The part here is you can point fingers. Look, in a sports team, if you look at what's going on with the Yankees right now, what is the problem with the Yankees right now? Nobody's afraid for their jobs.

38:15Yep. If you're not afraid for your job, you come to work, there's no way. Every day as an entrepreneur, you have to be afraid of losing your customers. Every day. Every day you have to come in and say, what do we need to do to keep our clients? Look what happened to Nike. Nothing's going to happen. Colin Kaepernick,$261 billion company down to a$50 billion company. Nothing's going to happen with Netflix. Nothing's going to happen with Disney from a$450 billion company to a$200 billion company. I think at the end of the day, if he runs like a boss, the first thing he's going to do is he's going to fire a couple people.

38:46I don't think Susie's going to be one to fire. She may quit and resign because she had some health issues herself. But I think is Hexet one to put on? I think it's him. I think it's the leader. Everything rises and falls on leadership. I agree. We can, you know, when things happen and people say, well, it's Pat's fault. It's Pat's fault. Partly I'll say, yeah, I think it is because I'm the leader. So you got to take the onus as the leader that this is a decision I need to make. Who that is, I don't know. I know behind closed doors, he's got to adjust. Sometimes I'll sit in a room and I'll talk to Tom, okay, and I'll go to our executive team and they'll give an idea to me.

39:24I think we need to do this. I remember one time we're at a, I don't know where we are, and I had this executive who was just a pain in the ass for everybody. For whatever reason, he was causing so much noise, so much pain for everybody. And it was so difficult to get shit done through him. We're on a trip. I call a meeting. I bring everybody upstairs. Everybody's panicking. We're not ready to fire this person. I said, we're firing the guy right now. No, we're not. He's been with me for 18 months. We're firing him right now. Tom, we're all teakering like, Pat, we need 90 days. Nope. You're going to figure it out.

39:58He's getting fired immediately. Ask him to fly back, and he's not going to be here. We made the decision. We moved on. And I took the pressure of it's all going to work itself out. And you know what happened, Tom? How quickly did we get over it? Really, what was interesting is by the end, it was a big meeting with a lot of field salespeople together. It was a big company summit. And by the afternoon of that meeting, everybody felt a lift. Yeah, it was done. And by the way, it took one day for this to happen. It's like mentally there was no drama by 5 p.m. I think what needs to happen today, I do agree that some people need to get fired.

40:28And I don't think there's anybody in the world that is more famous for firing people than one guy. So I do think he's going to readjust. Who that's going to be, who knows. In the topic of Israel, a lot of times when you win or lose, like you're saying, well, he didn't keep his promises, he didn't do this, and he didn't do that, and he didn't do this. Okay, last night we're having dinner. Me, Vinny, Steve on his head. and even Dan was involved in some of the conversations. I said, you know, the number one thing above all that we forget about is three years ago, we were worried about illegal immigrants, what they were doing.

41:06FYI, you want to know what happened in Texas? How DeSantis says, I never thought Texas, he's taking shots at Texas. And why is he taking shots at Texas? He's eliminating, DeSantis is a strategic, brilliant guy. He knows what he's doing. He's eliminating his competitors one by one by one by one by one. He's going through. Ted Cruz is Texas. You got certain things that is Texas. He knows Ted wants to run as well. This guy knows what he's doing right now. He's playing the games of what's going to be taking place. But you know, one of the data points that you got to give credits to the Democrats, this whole Antonio Gramsci, what is it, the slow walkthrough institutions?

41:42I don't know the exact phrase of what they use. Do you know in 1970, what was the white population in Texas? in 1970, Tom. 72%. What do you think the white population was in 1970? 1970%. 1970, white population in Texas. I know because you told me so I don't want to say anything. What do you think it is? I would guess maybe 50%, 60%. Wow. Because for a long time, Texas had a lot of Hispanics and legacy Mexicans. 1970 was 89%. I was on. I was one point off. I said 90%. By the way, do you know what it was in 2000. In 2000, it hits 50%. Today, it's 39%. So what happened in Texas? One by one by one.

42:27You don't think illegal immigration helped them out? Absolutely. Let people in. Let people in. Of course. And they were fighting them to kick them off. 100%. That's the plot. So then, I want to show you this clip. So part of what Democrats did slowly is they moved people around. Can you do me, if you ever played that clip, the funny clip about people, the guys that moved from California. I'm sick and tired of California. We're going to move to Texas. Watch this clip here. It's funny, but it makes the point of exactly what's going on in America today and how the Democrats are winning. Watch this.

42:58Go forward. We voted for a better California. Both lose. It's okay. He's just hungry.

43:11$200? I don't feel safe anymore. that's it we're moving to Texas no crime cheap gas we love Texas yeah I mean it's not even for that tired it's 100 % accurate that's it we're moving to Florida where y 'all from California we're here to fix Florida. By the way, as funny as that sounds, that's what's happened. They sat there and they say, move all the California people to Texas, but they still voted on the left. Gradually, hey, open the border. Let the people in. 2.4 million people self-deported, but the rest stuck around. What did those people do? Which side are they going to vote for? What are they going to be doing?

44:08Voting for conservatives? No. And you don't think when they get Supreme Court, how quickly, if they control Supreme court, do you think they're going to find a way to do amnesty and convert all of those guys into society? A hundred percent. How quick do you think they're going to do it? Well, there's a lot of things. By the way, you're talking about Texas. Hinojosa, who is governor-elect, the first thing she's going to do is they created a business court in Texas in advance of all of the business policies that they brought there and in advance of the Texas Stock Exchange they're trying to build.

44:33So now on the business court, she gets to a point. I believe the number is four judges. So now all of those pro-business policies that were brought to Texas, guess what? she's going to do that. Second, she's changing data center regulations and she's rolling back some of the benefits they were given to put in Texas. She's promised to do it. I'm rolling back some of the data center favoritism. So get ready. That is already what she said. So when she says what she's going to do, believe her. That's where she's going. Wait, wait, I got a little pushback on the whole thing of like the immigration.

45:07If you look, these people who are coming in are historically very religious. They're Catholic. They hold traditional values. They are very pro-left at the moment because they feel like that's their pathway to citizenship. But once they're here, over time, they may eventually become red-leaning. I know that's a weird take, but I actually believe there's a potential for that entire thing to backfire. This is how it works. In the interim, if I get them for 20 years, that's going to vote for me. In 40 years, they flip to conservative. in the interim for 20 years. If I can use them to control the Supreme Court, then make Puerto Rico and what is the other place, into a state where I can start DC and Puerto Rico into a state, then I can flip.

45:50Then we're done. Last thing, you know what the guy was talking about? I think we need to eliminate electoral college. The first thing he said. Yeah, they always talk about going Puerto Rico. What I'm saying to you is they're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. So now, winners and losers. Biggest winners and losers of what happened. What would you say? I'll come to you first. Biggest winners and losers. I was going to say humorously, Joe Rogan might be one of the biggest losers now that he's seeing basically California come to Texas and turn Texas into what he fled from California.

46:17And I hope he watched that. I mean, you know, and I'm not a dig, but like, you know, he changes sort of the support for Trump and doesn't appreciate that Austin will become the next Los Angeles, you know, within less than a generation. Funny thing about Florida. Have you been there recently? I've been to Austin a couple of times during the Alex Jones trial. I went to a Walmart. I saw someone taking a dump in the stall. I'm there with my kid. I'm like, we're not getting food here. We're getting the hell out of here. And we're going to go find a store out in the outskirts where people are, I say, armed and protecting us.

46:47But no, it was the other Walmart. It was it was Austin was terrible. It was actually worse than I could have possibly dreamed. Some beautiful spots. And then we get into the boroughs and it's beautiful. But jokes aside, and Hope Rogan is paying attention. The biggest winner, I think, is DeSantis. Second biggest winner is, I think, J.D. Vance. J.D., I've always liked J.D., and I've always liked DeSantis, but I supported Trump over DeSantis. And, you know, if it's J.D. versus DeSantis in 2028 for the primaries, it'll be a good choice. But obviously, when DeSantis comes out and reminds everybody why he was a viable candidate in 2024, because he was the best governor of Florida, that speech that he gave is the slap in the face to the GOP and the Trump administration that they need to say, you can't ignore the devastating results and you have to look at it.

47:33Winners and losers. Make your list. Make your list. Be ready. I promise you guys to add that. Even though it was a win, DeSantis, to me, that cockiness from a 48.7 to a 50%, how he's making it seem like in horse racing, like 10 horse lengths, that was by a no. So to have that attitude, you feel me? Like, hey, we did it. You almost lost. Moody won by 1.2. Like, what's all this cockiness? We almost lost Florida as well. People were panicking. And I think one of the biggest losers for Republicans was in Alabama. Alabama, the most conservative place. They voted in a Democrat transgender who beat the incumbent Republican.

48:20And it was Democrat Allison Montgomery beat Philip Rigsby. You want to talk about a freaking loss? Embarrassing? To me, that was it. That right there showed you how bad the Republicans lost. Biggest winners. I got a bunch of them. Elon Musk is a big loser. Massive. He's a big, big one. I think, oddly enough, this is going to re-vindicate the guys like Tucker Carlson. He's come out and been posting about it. I've seen some videos of people talking about how he was right all along. This is going to empower his kind of branch of the new right. I do think the extremist leftists, I think this is a death blow to any centrist leftist.

48:59and I've been seeing a lot of rhetoric, again, just anecdotally on Instagram. You're going to see guys like the Abdul El Saeeds. This video I'm posting here that I sent. This guy's very, very extreme. But again, I saw video after video after video like this. These are getting hundreds of thousands of likes if you want to watch it. What does he say? He's just a total lunatic talking about you centrist liberals are done. MAGA's dead and now we're coming for you. This is for the Democrats who just took power. You're going to meet our fucking demands or we're going to ruin your entire life. We're going to ruin your fucking political careers.

49:31MAGA no longer exists. MAGA is no longer a fucking threat. What is a threat are you centrist corporate democrat shills with your ironclad support of Israel, with your ironclad support of capitalism, with your ironclad support of imperialism and your belief that the U.S. military can do no wrong. There's a couple of things you're going to have to do. Otherwise, all of the aggression you have seen for the past fucking six years poured at MAGA, it's all coming to you. You're going to advocate to decouple us from Israel entirely. We shouldn't be sending them a single fucking dollar. Let that disgusting, repugnant, genocidal nation collapse.

50:07I don't give a fuck what happens to a single person there. Let them deal with it. Their fucking problem, you're going to stop sending our money over there. You're going to give us universal health care. You're going to surrender to the Iranians. Do you understand that? If you're not doing, we're going to give you congressional approval. I think that's enough. But the whole point is you may find that extreme. You'd be surprised how many people on the left are within the spectrum of believing this rhetoric is okay. That's the problem I'm discussing. The guy that was going after Elon, but I know we'll get into that.

50:37Biggest winners and losers, Tom. Biggest winners and losers. So I'm going to go to business since everybody's going there. But in that last clip, Rachel Maddow looks different with the critique. So winners, anything that's rate sensitive, you've got like health care, home builders, clean energy, things like that, I think are going to be winners in the near term. Losers is going to be AI, infrastructure, and defense. It's about to, you're going to see it on the stock market. It's going to move a little bit. I think the consumer will be a near-term winner. And I think next year there will be a little bit of win because there's one person that seems to get it.

51:12And I saw an interview with him and that's Jeffries. I'm not a fan of Jeffries, but Jeffries openly said, if we go on a rampage these next two years and we don't truly move economic things and take credit for it, we're in trouble. So Hakeem Jeffries, in that moment, I was like, dude, you're absolutely right. But I think he's going to be fighting people like this guy that was just screaming to get there. And I think that basically this guy would be screaming and saying, you're one of them, Hakeem. So that's where I think that. So I think the consumer will be a near-term winner. We've already talked about Musk and others that I think are losers at the moment.

51:50But I also, I'll tell you, you know what? It's going to sound weird, but this is my take, Pat. I think that ultimately we're going to look back, and I'm not spinning here. Every time there's a moment like this that happens, the true believers, gold gets purified in the fire, and I think ultimately this is going to rise up people who are true believers. Is that how you ended it? No, I think so. I think this is going to bring up. I like that. We'll see. So for me, here's what I got. Biggest winners and losers. Musk, he even joked about it. He put$458 million and didn't move in nothing. So that means PACs, the power of just going and winning elections with money, nothing.

52:34It's not going to happen. Trump's endorsement, big loser. Just because you're endorsing doesn't mean it carries the weight that it did a few years ago. That's a big loser. Next, putting just any candidate, like a Paxton. First time I spoke to him, I'm like, I was waiting for me to sell issues. Zero issues sold whatsoever at all. There was no issues being sold. Like, this is not a marketable guy. So these vanilla characters that came up to run, just because they're an AG or just because they've been around, big losers, the vanilla guys. AIPAC, big loser. Israel, big loser. This was not an election that was good for Israel.

53:12They're a big loser. They got their asses handed to them. Next, winners. DeSantis, winner. Muslims, big winners. Huge. Big winners. Record-breaking first senator ever as a Muslim to go out there and win. And by the way, when they go in, they stick. They have a high retention once they get a job. They don't leave. These are not people once they get in, they leave. They stay in their positions for a while. Kalshi, big winner. Zelensky, big winner. IRGC, big winner. Khamenei tweets this out. If you want to pull up the Khamenei tweet, here's what Khamenei had to say in a tweet about America. If you guys want to pull it up, I send it to you.

53:46I know you have it right here. It says, today the declining power and hegemony of the United States has suffered an irreversible fall in both dimensions of its power, its hard military power, and its international soft power. Now, whether he tweeted this or not, nobody knows. Some people are saying his handler tweeted it. Some people are saying other people tweeted. No one's even seen him. Even the president of Iran hasn't even seen him. He says he did, but he was taken to a place. But, you know, IRGC won. This was a very big opportunity for them to kind of be able to celebrate and say, hey, look at this.

54:17So now what Trump's going to do the next 60 days, nobody knows. I can tell you what Scott Galloway said. Here's what Scott Galloway said about Trump. Now, Scott Galloway said about Elon Musk. And a lot of people are saying, wait a minute. This is a fairly reasonable guy, successful, made money, got a good podcast. We've had him on. Look what he said about Elon Musk just yesterday. We have begun believing through this ridiculous, unhealthy and dangerous idolatry of innovators that they get to live by an entirely different standard. Elon Musk is a traitor to the West. We lined up the Rosenbergs against a wall.

54:56This is a traitor to the West and he should be held to the same standards as every other traitor. Getting a room full of applause. This is the new rhetoric of the left. So what did he just say? He just said he's a traitor, and we should do with him what we did to the Rose... They want Nuremberg. Put him against the wall. He said, Pat, let's not mince words. He said, innuendo, whatever you want to call it, put them on a wall, put them on a wall, and basically treat them the same way that he did Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, and assess and shoot them dead. Can you appreciate the irony that he talks about idolatry of innovators while he's sitting on a white leather couch in front of a crowd in a fancy setting like he is?

55:37But he'll end up on the wall as well because the revolution devours its own, and he's no safer than the people he's calling for. We're entering an age of extremism in terms of the rhetoric that's being acceptable. They shot Trump in the freaking head. They murdered Charlie in front of everybody. And this is, I'm telling you guys, this is the type of rhetoric and what these really stupid, smart people don't understand. It takes one idiot, Vivo, one idiot to hear that and be like, you know what? He's right. And we have hundreds of millions of them here. Well, it's the Bill Burr, like, you know, the Luigi Mangione not understanding.

56:10He will be the millionaire billionaire that's the enemy of the people. If I may just go back to the Khomeini's tweet, and not to disagree with Khomeini, but there's a difference between a collapse and a contraction. And some people might say, you know, the Roman Empire might have done some good to contract before it collapsed because you spread yourself too thin. That's how you lead to the collapse of the Roman Empire. a contraction of the U.S., put it in quotes, empire, might not be a bad thing. It might actually be describing in a different way what America First is saying. Don't waste this money this time overseas in Middle Eastern countries with bases across the world.

56:43Contract a little bit. Focus on home. Set up good defenses. Protect your own first. But do you really think that's what it all boils down to, an isolationist argument? Because for me, listen, here, I would love to have an honest conversation, if I could, theoretically, with every American person. Say, what would it take? What would it take? Would it take us pulling out of Iran completely? Would it take us giving no more money at all to Israel? For some reason, no one cares about the billions we give to Jordan and Egypt. Because if that's what it takes, hallelujah, I think that's an easy fix. Let's decouple.

57:10Let's do everything you're saying. It's not going to solve the problems within the country. I don't believe it will. Well, I think you could err on the side of trying. It's like RFK Jr. said when he ran, when he initially ran. A nation at war abroad will never be at peace at home. And it makes total sense. The issue is, what's the solution? I mean, what's your goal? Okay, so let's just say theoretically, imagine we do that and imagine there is a nuclear Iran, a nuclear Saudi Arabia. There's a nuclear North Korea. Fundamentally different. As someone whose own family escaped Iraq, there is a fundamental difference between a country that has self-preservation, which has a desire for expansion, versus one that is based on religious extremist ideology.

57:47They are fundamentally—you have ayatollahs going up and praying to the 12th imam for the upcoming Armageddon, and this is how they want to achieve it. It is a different—I'm not scared of North Korea. Are you scared of Pakistan and India having nuclear bombs? Why haven't they done that? That's a stalemate. Wait, wait, wait. Pakistan and India aren't doing things like in the rest of the world. They have a stalemate together, which has basically kept it that way. I mean, that's the whole foundation of what nuclear proliferation stopped was mutually assured destruction. Mutually assured destruction caused people to say, I got six, you got seven, but we're both dead.

58:25And so all of a sudden, everybody kind of backs up a little bit and is calm. That's India, Pakistan. So, Viva, on that one, and I know you know this. You're more versatile. No, but he's asking why would that not happen between Israel and Iran. Well, what I'm saying is it would create an explosion of every country for that desire for self-preservation to develop nuclear weapons. Do you want a nuclear Saudi Arabia? Do you want the potential of Wahhabi Sunni Salafis having nuclear weapons? No, but I guess the first question is this was not an argument for a nuclear Iran. This was an argument for gauging and reassessing foreign policy to achieve certain results.

58:57And then the question is going to be also, is what was done now going to deter Iran and a future other country from having nuclear aspirations or enhance it? Let me ask this question for me. Let me ask this. So we're giving three point eight billion dollars to Israel every year. That's the number that we keep hearing about. Right. OK. And we spend, I don't know, billion dollars on a trillion dollars on SNAP, on entitlement, food entitlement, all these other things that we give away. But let's just say we don't do anything with Israel. We leave them alone. And let's say we get Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

59:25Let's leave them alone. What do you think long-term happens between Iran and Israel? We don't get involved at all between those two. What do you think happens long-term? I mean, it's impossible to project. It's impossible to project. No, but that's your job, though. You're supposed to do that. The decisions you make is based on what you think is going to happen long-term. You buy life insurance because, God forbid, if something happens to you, your family has to pay probate taxes and have different issues that's going to come up. And so you buy a life insurance. You can't say, it's impossible for me to say what age I'm going to die, so I'm not going to buy life insurance policy.

59:55No, you're a leader. It looks like if it was you, you're thinking if the$3.8 billion stops, everything in America is going to be fixed. Well, no, no. First of all, I mean the$3.8 billion in Israel, and I'll concede that the point is there's an overemphasis on Israel. You had$400 billion to Ukraine. The issue is that you had people objecting to the aid to Ukraine as well. But there's no way the criticism Ukraine gets is the same as the Israel. No, I mean oddly— there is no way we sit there and criticize Ukraine at the same level that Israel can. Well, I might disagree with that just temporally.

1:00:26Two years ago, the criticism of Zelensky, the criticism of the aid to Ukraine, the criticism of neglecting domestic issues to fund a proxy war against Russia. Jamie Dimon, all these guys, where the Ukraine and the U.S. flag, and they give money gladly to that area left and the right. No, well, but I think left and the right. Go back and ask the question. You're the president. If you're the president, funding to Israel stops overnight. Yes? Is that fair to say? Yes, now. Because now the blowback is so severe because of what's been done over the last couple of years. Which is a fair argument. That is a fair argument for me.

1:00:55Sorry. Now it's like the overreaction. It's like, okay, well, had we gauged things differently? Had Marco Rubio not come out and said, yeah, we struck Iran because Israel was going to do it anyhow. You don't put yourself in a position where you have to take a radical redirection to say to appease the people have now had enough of this ostensible foreign nation dictating domestic policy. Elon's asking a very valid question. He's asking everything you want, if it stops, does it stop the problems in America? Well, oddly enough, I think cutting$4 billion in military aid to Israel, I don't think it'll change a thing because they'll figure out a way to either get the arms that they need from another nation or get the aid from another nation or they'll do it themselves.

1:01:30So then that doesn't solve the problem of the frustration towards Israel, right? No, but that's because it's different frustrations and it's ones that – there's a difference between aid to a foreign country and what is perceptibly that foreign country's influence in your national and international policy. It was actually the issue. Why do we not hear about Qatar foreign influence? I think we do. I don't think anybody does. You think they're on the, first of all, Qatar outspends Israel infrastructure and education. I agree. Across the board. And proportionally, how much do we hear about Qatar versus Israel?

1:01:59Well, it depends who you listen to. I mean, I hear a fair bit of both. And I do say you can go dollar for dollar. You've got your ear down on that stuff. I think he makes a really good point. We don't hear about Qatar. And if you chart up here about where Qatar is investing in American colleges and things, think tanks and stuff, it's significant. but it's not out there in the popular view. You and I are down in the weeds of a lot of things. We have our fingers on a lot of pulses, but to your point, you don't hear about Qatar. Well, okay, perhaps, playing devil's advocate, one of the reasons is you don't see Qatari officials giving speeches in front of Congress.

1:02:29You do see them buying the president. No, but hold on, hold on. You don't see Qatari leaders in Congress giving speeches to our government. Sure, that's it. But that alone, so whether or not the dollar figure is 10 to 1 versus Qatar, Again, they buy the president a$350 million new Air Force One plane. They help fund military bases to train their pilots in the United States. They put billions of dollars in time. We all agree with that. But if you were to see it. I agree with you the optics. I 100 % agree with you. And I'm at the point, I really mean this, where I think it is best for the country to take a step away from Israel.

1:03:04I don't think it will change anything. But I think there, as I said earlier, is a mass psychosis where every single grievance is now being blamed. So let's take it out of the out of the equation. But you say mass psychosis to undermine the legitimate criticism. I'm not because. But hold on. Bottom line, if you were to ever see a Qatari official go in front of Congress and basically give a speech to Congress, you would expect outrage and it would come from everyone and it would be universal. I actually don't think so. So I think the fundamental relationship with Israel, and if you look at the nature of the relationship, it is not so controversial that they've done that.

1:03:37And again, I think there is legitimate criticism of Israel that can be made. When that criticism becomes a grievance point to be the solution to all our problems, and we stop people from voting because that's all they want to talk about, and a vote becomes an Israel first vote, then that becomes the doorway, the Trojan horse, for what we see today. So again, I am okay with no longer. I was very happy when I saw that Trump put that out. That said, I'm not going to fund Israel anymore. I think that rhetoric has to push back. It's not going to even appease these people. That's my point. Nothing will appease them.

1:04:06I think it's the consequence. Vinny, what do you think? What do you think? I mean, I'm just, I said it on the midterms. I'm just tired. I'm sick and tired of every time our politics comes up, I have to hear Israel and Bibi Nanyahu. I'm not saying about just, that's how much there, it's just influence and I'm just over it. I'm tired of it. Are they in Israel talking about I'm just tired of hearing it Pat Are they in Israel talking about us like that You know why it's not going away My opinion is I'm just tired So let me ask you Think like the enemy Go think like the enemy If you were the enemy and you were thinking about how to fracture the Republican Party that dominated 2024, everybody thought it was going to be a 20-year run.

1:04:51Oh, my God, Trump, this many years. Then it's going to be JD. Then it's going to be Rubio for 20 years. Remember that whole thing that came out? Yep. And they saw that. If you were going to find a way to destroy the Republican Party, think like the devil, how would you do it? I mean, that would be one of them. What would be one of them? That would be one of them was the whole Israel. You're Islamist, Qatar, money. How do you divide America? How would you do it? I mean, Islamists and like that, you would just constantly bring up our relationship with them and say, look at what they're doing and look at what they're doing.

1:05:18And then just harp on that. Because that's all the El-Sayed's and all them. Matt, social media campaigns, when there's Islamism in Italy and in France. Oh, don't look at that. It's secretly. Charlie Kirk assassinated by radical activists. Don't look at that. It's secretly Israel. You have Abdul El-Sayed supporting the Muslim family. The whole family. And then what do they put out? But he's bringing up Israel. A campaign comes up saying, you can't pay for your groceries because of Israel. It's a district. But hold on, hold on a second. Who did, if to the extent that somebody did not look into the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who didn't look into it?

1:05:49What do you mean who didn't? Well, you say, don't look into it, it's Israel. I mean, there's only a small idiotic faction saying it's Israel, and I don't place much value in their opinions. Millions of people watch Candace Owens, and you can see that that is, you may say they're inconsequential, but when they are psyop to that extent, they do vote. But then there's going to be a bit of blame here. Who then didn't go into a sufficient investigation into the Charlie Kirk to satisfy or quell those conspiracy theories? What are you talking about? The investigations were not adequate, in your opinion, into Charlie Kirk?

1:06:20A thousand percent they were not adequate. So we fundamentally disagree. Well, but go back to Patrick's question about what would you do if you were the devil to sabotage Trump? You'd trick him into going to war with Iran. Period. And now whether or not that's Democrats, whether or not that's a deep state apparatus that Trump didn't drain from the swamp that duped him into going to war with Iran, knowing whether or not that's the singular issue, it's certainly the one that leads into all the other ones. We agree there. It's broke the straw. And it leads into everything else. Why did you go to war with Iran?

1:06:48Well, it's for Israel. It might not have been for Israel. It might have been a sincerely held belief. But if you wanted to end what would have been 20 years of Republican fixing this country, trick Trump into going to war with Iran, and everyone knows the conspiracy theories and legitimate theories that are going to fall from there. Do you think Americans would be more forgiving of Trump if they truly believed he went into Iran because he truly, fundamentally believed that they are a nuclear threat and a definitive threat to the United States? Or do you think the connection to Israel and do you think the, like I said previously, you're a witch, you're Israel first.

1:07:19Same, it's the automatic solution. And there is no, no thing you can say back that can disprove it. There is no level. It's an unfalsifiable theory. a lot of these things are, and it's also the absence of the evidence is the evidence, which makes them unfalsifiable, but if Trump legitimately believed it, I think a lot of us did sincerely believe that with Operation Midnight Hammer, and then we're told it's obliterated. And then six months later, you're going back in, and you have Marco Rubio apparently saying the quiet part out loud, and then you want to blame people for thinking Israel's involved.

1:07:50It's not a witch hunt anymore. It's not psychosis anymore. Obviously, Israel has its interests. That's why I'm saying It's good if we do couple for a while. It has its influence, as did Zelensky and as did Ukraine. And people were saying enough is enough. $400 billion to a foreign country for a cross-war is enough. As does Qatar, as do numerous other countries. I agree. In a tremendous way on a much deeper level, by the way, if you look at the amount of money. But people are vocally critical of the activism, the leftist Marxist activism on campuses as well. So it's not like nobody's complaining about that either.

1:08:19Sure. I'm a good guy. I can complain about five things at once. It's all proportionate. Yeah, I agree with you there. Nothing is mutually exclusive. A couple things to get into right now is Scott Jennings comes up after Vivek. And, you know, we talk about Scott Galloway going after Elon saying, hey, you know, you got to do to him what we did with others. Here's what Scott Jennings had to say about Vivek after midterms. Watch this. And there's a few candidates out there that should be singled out. Paxton was a huge mistake. Vivek Ramaswamy. so twice now he seems to have misunderstood the object of politics which is to make people to like you and not be a human repellent and that is what he has done in ohio and i think it hurts everybody else over there i think it hurts john housted there's something to be said for just trying to be basically nice and basically approachable and that ad that they ran is going to go down as one of the dumbest strategic blunders at a time when you could ill afford it because of the environment.

1:09:20What do you think about that? When I saw the ad, it rubbed me very much the wrong way. I somewhat agree with it. Do you think it's just the ad? No. No, he said a couple of stupid things, but the ad didn't help, and then the doubling down doesn't help. I mean, it's an amazing thing. People in politics are afraid to apologize because they think it's going to be used against them. Apologizing, admitting errors, all you would have had to say, by the way, is, oh my goodness, I didn't know the extent of the abuse with Mother. I would never have done this otherwise. That would have been the easiest fix.

1:09:46We screwed up. It was a disgusting ad. We didn't know what it actually was. Tom, what do you think? It is better to be thought of as an elitist technologist than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. That's exactly what Vivek did. And I like Vivek. I and I'll tell people here, you know, I'm not I'm not a homer for Vivek, you know, in the sports side. I respect him. I respect what he's accomplished. He's very gracious to my daughter when he was here, gave her a lot of encouragement. But in terms of running a campaign, that's different. And whatever his advice was and whatever the decision was, those were ill-advised statements that caused people to frame you as a, hey, you're this elitist snob that came in here.

1:10:33And then what happened was that's the framing they were throwing at him. Oh, you're a you're a left coast Republican technologist. You don't understand the common man of manufacturing here in Ohio. And that that framing was not not correct and not fair. I think he was broader than that. But then he makes two comments early, Pat, that gets the ball rolling and then another comment late. And it's just like, wait a minute. That was just and then I'm leaving out the ad. I'm just talking about him responding to things. And then when you put the ad on top of it, it's like, wow, that's a poorly run campaign.

1:11:08And if you have a poor quarter as a CEO, the stock is down and you get an article criticizing you in Wall Street Journal. And he's getting criticism from people like Scott Jennings that understand the political arena. I hate the fact that this ended this way. I really hate the fact. And because how many times you have him on the podcast and we've been around Vivek? Awesome, awesome human being. I respect the hell out of him, but it was December 26th, the day after Christmas, 2024, when he said, and I quote, our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long. OK, and he also argued that American culture celebrates the prom queen over the math Olympia champion, you know, the jock over the valedictorian.

1:11:47And he made the comments and he defended tech companies hiring H1B foreign workers. I'm sorry. That's taking a gun and shooting yourself right in the foot two years ago. and we knew it and we kind of called it's like you can't be but this is the united states of america we're brown we're brown we're brown you don't be you can't be brown and say stuff like that to the americans and uh time you feel me tom because you know what they're gonna do they're like oh that's the guy you want my vote nope and you know that's only that is only two inches away from the right statement for too long we have been looking at other people and looking at ways and praising folks.

1:12:28We should be praising our kids and giving them the educational opportunities. These should be our kids that are starting up these tech companies. We should be doing. It's just two inches away. And he didn't... No. I remember exactly where I was during that H-1B debate. Over Christmas, I was at my parents' cottage. And I remember Elon Musk was getting thrown into it as well. And you should learn from those mistakes, not repeat them and double down. When it came to the ad, just one last thing, having a basic sense of morality also doesn't hurt. When Mary Trump came out and railed against Trump, it was wrong.

1:12:58It was disgusting. When RFK Jr.'s family came out and disavowed him, it's disgusting. Even in politics, you don't pit family against family. And if you just err on the side of morality, you didn't need that ad to win, and all it could do was hurt, and then you didn't apologize afterwards. You think he could have won without the ad? Oh, yeah. Because he got a lot closer. You think without the ad he would have won? Yes, because if you look at the result, and we covered it on the end of the night, remember we went to it with all these big victories that were happening. Ossoff, holy crap, look at the size of that victory.

1:13:25We went to Ohio and I said, look how close this is. This is closer than they thought it was going to be. Look at this. 400 ,000, actually 370 ,000 votes as the end came in. This should have been, by the tonality and everything you saw, a 12-point victory. It wasn't. He would have won this had it been run differently. Without the ad. I'd say without the ad and with a message of, you know, enable the American citizen, the American student with education and the things that are here, enable them. And if he had done that and the ad. Do you think he's going away? I don't think he's going away, but he's got to pick a shot where he's going to go next.

1:14:10Yeah, and I think he has to work on his messaging. I think the entire Republican Party has to work on their messaging. They became complacent. They thought a Trump endorsement would win. How? No, because Trump thought that a Trump endorsement in a closed Republican primary would carry the same weight that it did in an open election. It was bad strategy, again, by the people keeping him in a silo. And all they had to do with Amy Acton? Remind everyone what a COVID tyrant she was, that she was a celebrity in her own mind. Holy crap, I went back and pulled up clips from her during COVID. That would have been the play.

1:14:42She was a nutbag. That would have been the play. I saw that would have been the play. Yeah. Well, I think a part of the problem when you're very, very smart and intellectual, Scott was a valedictorian. He's a brilliant guy. He's more smart than 99 % of the opponents that he's going up against. But sometimes your strength could be a double-edged sword if you don't know how to speak to people where you don't make them feel dumb. Sometimes you can be extremely smart and talk down at people and you don't know you're doing that where you think people are beneath you. Yep. And at the beginning, he was able to hide that a little bit.

1:15:20But eventually, it became too much like, listen, do you know how smart I am? And it came a little too much like that. You know who else has a little bit of that? Newsom has a little bit. Oh, yeah, big time. Where it's a little bit condescending. And the condescending score kept getting higher and higher and higher. And you have to be able to hide that a little bit if it's natural. Like for some people, you've got to hide it. And you have to be able to drop the message in a way where the average person gets it, not above their heads. A couple guys don't know how to do that properly. And last but not least, quite frankly, likability is super important.

1:15:59Jennings is right. Likability is super, super important when you're running for office. And he rubbed some people the wrong way. Got a couple stories that just came out. Tom, did you just see what the stock market just did, NASDAQ? NASDAQ just dropped 3.5%. I don't know if you saw that or not. Nasdaq literally just dropped 3.5%. I think it's now dropped maybe even 4.2%. So that was down 1.5%. Nasdaq is down 4.2%. And it's tech driving everything down. Tech driving. There's neutral center market tech way down. Yeah, major sell-off. You have from the reports that came up last week with Intel plunge approximately 29 % after disappointing investors, but its outlook, Reddit fell roughly 29.2%, following concerns about their search traffic and growth, and Amazon also declined amid concerns about spending and free cash flow, but as of right now, the Dow was down 4.25, and NASDAQ, I'm sorry, NASDAQ is down 4.25, Dow was down 1.51, and the S &P is down 2.71.

1:17:04Why do you think? I could not venture a guess into that. I just got distracted because Russell Brand just got convicted of rape. Wow. Yes. Russell Brand got convicted of rape? That is big. Russell Brand was found guilty. I'll read it. He's been taken into custody. Russell Brand was found guilty in London of one count of rape and three counts of sexual assault involving four women. The offenses occurred between 2004 and 2009. He was acquitted of two other rape charges and one attempted indecent assault charge. Brand denied all charges and maintained that he never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity.

1:17:35He was taken into custody immediately after the verdict. And the judge says this. The judge said this, Pat. He faces a significant prison sentence and the sentencing scheduled for Monday, November 9th. Like, it's not good. The British court. That's. Wow. This just dropped right now. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't mean to distract. I just saw it on the side banner when you were looking at the market. In the U.S., there's all these sentencing hearings and you can make a. You can make a. Appeal. A motion regarding certain things, the sentencing. in the British courts here, you're taken into custody today. He's effectively in prison now.

1:18:09And then he'll be formally in, what, four days sentenced. So Russell Brand is incarcerated. To the extent they're sentencing people to, like, 30 months in jail for social media posts. Yeah, imagine what they're going to do where it's saying, yeah, this is not good. This is not. I mean, boy. Well, in the Muslim courts over there, normally he would have been granted the mayorship of Sheppenshire. also just to change the subject back going back to this one thing IQ in life is very important I would be curious to know if EQ is just as important if not more important your emotional quotient in terms of how you deal with people can dictate a lot your intelligence is great but nobody listens to you I didn't see if it was unanimous because in the UK you only need 10 of the 12 jury members how long do you think it's going to be going away A long effing.

1:19:02You think so? Yeah. I made the joke he should have gotten on a plane and moved with his family to Russia, a country with no extradition treaty to the UK, because it's bad. And I was listening to this. The one, I presume it's the one with the anal rape side, sorry to get graphic, that he was found guilty on. I'll double check later, but the story sounds terrible. And by his own admissions and his own memoir, my bookie woke back in the day, I said they were going to read from it. They read from it to him on the stand. Oh, it's not. Why did he? He said he basically considered orgasm his birthright and that he acknowledges sexually exploiting people due to his stardom.

1:19:38That does not mean rape in most countries. But the UK is not most countries and it's not a normal country at this point. Which book? It was called My Bookie Bookie. It was basically his memoirs of how he was a sex addict, drug addict and came to Jesus literally. And then he wrote a book on 12 Steps. You saw that clip where he's on an interview or a podcast. Maybe, Connor, you guys in the back can find it. Where he was saying he was in his 30s and he slept with someone that was 16. Allegedly, I'm just saying. That was with Megyn Kelly. Yeah, with Megyn Kelly. Which he said, he's like, well, I thought that that was normal.

1:20:13It's like, bro, I'm trying to figure out. He's actually incriminating himself on camera. His book was all you needed to read to him in cross-examination, which I said they'd do. Was it the legal age of consent where he did it at the time? in the UK, so it was not illegal, but it's not a good look. He could say face several years to more than 10 years in prison. Rape carries a maximum sentence of life in England. And there's four counts. Four counts. One rape, three sexual assaults. This is in UK? Yeah. So what happened to all the Pakistani Muslims? Exactly what I was going to ask you. Hold on, because that's racist.

1:20:49That's racist. But that he's a white guy and he did it, he's going to be in there for a while. He should have known better. The other one was, you know, it's part of the culture. Maybe, hold on, he should hide the Bible, convert to Islam, and tell them, hey, you guys are racist for freaking saying that I raped them. Change his name to Abdul Muhammad Al-Faib. Yeah, Abdul. Did you guys see that, by the way, when he hit name, how it changed? I was going to say, well, there was a clip of him saying, I'm not running to be a Muslim senator. I'm running for senator to happen to be Muslim. And then he gets up there.

1:21:16Habibi, how's the Muslim? Like, now he turned into a hole. Now the mask is off. My name is Abdul Muhammad Al-Faib. There it is right here. This is it. This is called when you let them in, this is it. Well, I mean, the joke is, the concept, I think, is taqiyah, where you're allowed to be deceitful. Well, this is the mask coming off. Can you play? Like, look at this, guys. Look at this. Remember? I don't care about it. I'm just trying to be the senator. Watch this. Ready? My name. Yeah. There it is. Is Abdulrahman Mohammed Sayyid. Here we go. There we go, baby. We made it. Go to the end, because he goes insala with another.

1:21:49with another guy. Here are people in the back. Let it keep going. To stand here as your senator-elect from the great state of Michigan.

1:21:59He's charming. He's charismatic. He wants Sharia law. Let's go, baby. I always say, inshallah, or God willing, whenever the outcome of this race was mentioned. But today, tonight, we can turn that inshallah into a... inshallah. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah, yeah. He's a Muslim Obama. Wait, hold on. Hold on. You mean Obama? You're already not. He's Muslim. Don't lie to yourself. To highlight, going back to some of your points earlier, like, not a double standard, but people, if someone had gotten up there with pay us in a kippah and gets up there and says, my name is now Moshe Morachai L 'Huy, and by the way, L 'chaim, L 'chaim.

1:22:37People would be outraged. Yes. On both sides. This is on both sides and understandably so. I don't think this is America and you want to come to a country, you abide by it and live by its own principles and morality. And dual citizens should not be able to run for office. I do think that foreigners who even get naturalized should not be allowed to run for elected office or government. But like, no, this is in your face. Story just dropped right now. Breaking news. Marco Rubio is on the resignation watch. Sources say he's preparing to quit as Secretary of State to launch a 2028 presidential bid wanting to distance himself from Trump and the Iran war.

1:23:13He's perhaps the leading Republican candidate right now ahead of J.D. Vance and Ron DeSantis. Since Vance moved fast after the midterms publicly, blaming the Iran war on the losses, Rubio has him behind the scenes. He's been notably quiet on Iran for months. Up to five cabinet members are reportedly preparing to exit the administration. The 2028 race is already gearing up. This is from the independent source. The independent Mario Nafal just tweeted this, just so you know that. Not a smart move? No. Why do you think it's not a smart move? Because I think that on some fundamental level, Americans do appreciate some degree of like stick it out, have some loyalty and stay active.

1:23:53Flip side to that. If he knew it was wrong and stayed silent, he's a coward. What the hell is he going to do? It's a bad look that now that there's backlash, all of a sudden you're jumping ship. Plus, he was, first of all, whether or not he objected behind closed doors and you have to stick with the administration. No, no, no. His cowardice and his silence led to this problem. He doesn't come out and say, behind closed doors, I was totally against it. and now elect a bad look. You know why he can't say that? Because, bro, they're going to play the tape that you just talked about where he goes, listen, the reason we struck first is because they were going to go, so we did it to support our interest.

1:24:22That's ridiculous. But can we really quick go back to El Sayad and showing, like, I'm being genuine. I swear to you, when they asked him about the ties about his family, I guarantee that if he came out and said, yeah, my family was in it, and you know what? I kind of liked them too. He still would have won. A hundred percent. I'm being dead serious. And we talked about this before the podcast, and I want your guys' opinion. 60 % of Jewish people in Michigan voted for that guy. Please explain. And you explained to me that it was the older Jewish people, which I would think they would have more of a history or a mentality of what you're up against.

1:24:59Why would 60 % of Jewish people vote for Abdul Inshallah? It's the weirdest phenomenon in the world that Jews consistently voted. because those Jews have a much higher loyalty to secularism than they do to their religion or to their other ideas. Well, I mean, look, this will be mildly politically incorrect, but one of the tropes and stereotypes and explanations as to why Jews were chased out of 138 countries is their progressivism leads to the downfall of those countries. This is suicidal progressivism. This is crazy. I said secularism. I meant progressivism. It's 100 % a trend amongst, especially Ashkenazi Jews.

1:25:37Well, it's a Gadsad would call it suicidal empathy. Speaking of things that have just come in, I saw Secretary Duffy, Transportation Secretary Duffy, speaking today on Walk on the Street. And this is all related to what we're talking about here in their term. There have been multiple bomb threats this morning at the commercial level of aircraft in Europe. Now, individual bomb threats are not particularly unusual, and a lot of them get hunted down quickly and found to be baseless. But there's flight diversion. Here it is. Flights have been diverting and things going on. And this is what I feared.

1:26:10I feared some sort of a movement to action from sleeper cells. And so I am hoping this isn't happening. But Duffy running to the microphone today, he is the quiet cabinet member. Secretary of Transportation, what are you doing? You're negotiating with the union of air traffic controllers. And when it snows, you make sure that the U.S. carriers do certain things to stay on time. all this kind of stuff going on. But he's, you know, running the squawk box this morning saying all is well. We're working with our European partners to keep Americans safe in the sky. And so I am Pat, you and I think in the same thing on stuff like this, saying we were hoping that ugliness doesn't happen.

1:26:51But this is not just bomb threats. Now, these are flights being diverted. And a U.S. secretary cabinet member jumping on the microphone first thing this morning. Yeah, I mean, look, tensions are high. It's an uncertain time. Emotions are high. This is an opportunity for people who want to see U.S. be in shambles. U.S. is the most hated country in the world because U.S. has been winning for a very long time. It's not easy when that happens. And for now, when they're seeing, hey, look at this opportunity, what just took place, you've got to keep your eyes on a lot of different things. And that's Duffy's job.

1:27:25Duffy wakes up every morning, have to make sure this is what he has to do. So I don't know about the story of Rubio, how much credibility is behind that one or not. We'll find out what he's going to do because most people would say the Iran war, Rubio is more pro that than J.D. 100%. He, you know, one is the non-interventionist and the other one is the, hey, we got to get involved and get rid of Iran. You know, get rid of the threat that we have with IRGC. So I don't know if this would be a good look if he did that. I don't think at all would be a good look if he did that because if it does, if there is a conclusion to Iran, you know what it's like?

1:28:06It's like when somebody you hire and they got hired to have a project to launch. And let's just say it's a 24-month project to launch. And they quit on month number 18. You're not a finisher of your project. I don't respect that. So to me it's like, wait, you're leaving on 18 months. You got six months more to finish this project. You quitting now? Yeah. you will never get a positive reference from me on your next job when they call me for you. So pretty much I'll tell you, don't put us on your resume. Right. Because I'm going to tell them you quit six months before the completion of the job. So if you have a project that you want to sign to this guy, he will quit the moment somebody offers a better salary to go there.

1:28:41It's a bad look if he leaves. But let's just say the Iran story is done. Good, bad, ugly. I don't care what it is. If it's done, then you're out. Then to me, it's a smoother transition than doing it suddenly in the middle of it. I would tend to take this particular story independent with a grain of salt in any event because strategically, like I say, it doesn't make sense. Trump could declare victory tomorrow and then what? This rumor pops up early. I say you leave when it's done or when it's an unfixable catastrophe. Let's talk about California. So California had a good thing that happened to them and a bad thing that happened to them.

1:29:16Let's do both. Good. Prop 40, billionaire tax, 3.4 million people voted for it. Yes, let's have a billionaire tax. 4.2 million people said no, 55%. Prop 42, which is the anti-new tax measure I was teaching Tom about this last week, is yes, it was 4.138 million, 54%, and a no was 3.481. So the billionaire tax is not going to be happening in California. But at the same time, when you think about California, what cities do you think about? San Fran, L.A. L.A. had Mayor Bass, and they had Spencer Pratt that was running, and Rahman was not even a person anybody thought was going to do anything. Nope.

1:29:56Like there's no way this girl stands a chance. Well, guess what? The most socialist candidate projected to win L.A.'s mayoral race defeating Karen Bass. Tom, how bad of news is this to L.A.? This is a double trick that turned into a double cross. So the dirty trick that turned into a double cross. That's what happened. Number one, here comes Spencer Pratt. 200 ,000 people supporting him. He is sounding rational. He's out there running for mayor. He's talking about the scandals and the lack of follow-up and what was happening, people trying to rebuild their homes after the fires. The fires that happened largely went farther than they should have because of the ineptitude of the government and specifically Karen Bass, where you can't fight a fire from Guyana.

1:30:42So remember that? She was on that trip. So he looks like he's there. And so they did exactly what they did in Alaska. But they didn't find another Sullivan. They found another person to run because here's what was going on in the primary. They saw that were Dems that were no way Jose on Karen Bass. No way. And they're sitting there. Wow. We got to give these people a choice because we have some anti-Bass people that could actually cause Spencer Pratt to be one of the top two. Because remember, California, specifically L.A., does not have a Democrat and a Republican primary. Everybody can run, and the top three candidates will run in the runoff.

1:31:20So they said, I know what we'll do. Rubbing their hands together, like the evil business owner on Simpsons, we'll get Nithya Raman to run. She'll take the boats away from the people that are no bass, no way, because of the fire. It'll take things away from Pratt, and then we'll go into the fall. Nithya will step aside, run an average campaign, and we'll win. Nope. Well, Nithya Raman does better than people think in the primary, gets people behind her, away she goes, and the dirty trick becomes the double cross. She didn't back off. She didn't give it to Karen Bass, and Karen Bass got the pummeling that she should have got in the primary yesterday.

1:32:01But what can she do to make L.A. now worse? Does she have real direct impact to make the city worse, and if yes, how? Absolutely. She's talking about sales tax. She's talking about, hey, we're not going to do these things with the homeless. Homeless have the right to live somehow. She's talking about tent cities. She's talking about this. You could go down the list of things, and it's like, really? So you want to turn L.A. into an even worse version of L.A.? Are you telling me that? And that's exactly what's about to happen. Remember, she came from the city council, and she's being replaced on city council by someone that's— She had the highest no-show ratio of city council meetings.

1:32:44She would not show up. And she would say, well, it's because I have a family and I have a kid and I have this. She says, you never show up. You have the worst show ratio. And she laughed about it. She almost admitted to it that she's not somebody that shows up. So in a way, Tom, could some people be grateful that she doesn't show up? Like, please take the check. Don't show up and don't get nothing done. I would hope so. But we know that's not going to happen. They think this is an opportunity here. But let me tell you, this is going to backfire. L.A. is going to get worse. The reason Spencer got over 200 ,000 votes in the primary, 200 ,000 in L.A., the reason he got that is because people were upset.

1:33:24Adam Carolla talks about it. So many people talk about it. I think this accelerates the shift because there's got to be a shift in L.A. I think it accelerates the shift. It's not going to be a big red city, but I think it could be more lavender and purple. And I think that what we're going to see here is her thinking it's a mandate for her policies, just like the Democrats. The Democrats don't understand. There was no mandate for Democrat policies on Election Day. It was anger about affordability and getting even a one million percent. That's what it was. And so when they think, ha ha, we can do anything, it's going to backfire.

1:34:03And I think it's LA is going to get worse, Pat, and it's going to back. How much worse? You know what it is too? And we've said this in the past, Californians, like when you're so used to it, you fall in love with your abuser. Yeah. It's Stockholm. Yeah. A hundred percent. Bro. Like even if you're like boiled in a pot. Yeah. They're like, Hey guys, I have my cousin. My cousin's probably watching this right now. My family, my brother, my cousin, Mike, they're like, bro, they're going insane. Cause they're like, how are you guys not seeing like what they have done, what they've promised, what's going on from Newsom to all these people, and they still, still are that loyal, like, say what you want, bro.

1:34:41Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. These people do not want change. They want the abuse, and they want it to keep going. Or they want it to get worse. Yeah, like torture. She went from crying concession speech during the jungle primaries to now the women. My goodness, it's funny how these things happen. There she is. Look at the wrinkles in her forehead. It's really interesting how Democrats play. There's Botox and Beverly Hills for that. I hope you know that everything, every person in this room is fighting for in this campaign has been about building a city that's worthy of you and every child in this city.

1:35:18Oh, yeah, guys, you need to pause. Wait, so wait, she conceded and she lost? No, she didn't really concede. She said, you know, we fought a good campaign. How much worse can it get? Well, during the Palisades fire, you find out that the L.A. Fire Department donated some of its surplus material to Ukraine in 2022. Yes, that was so they were short when the fire. Yet despite all that, there's still no accountability. In fairness, however, I don't think the mayor had an active role in that, but I'll still blame it on the mayor. It can get worse. Democrats can do anything, anything. We don't play by the same rules.

1:35:51I know we have rules. They don't have rules. They have wind. And I mean, you're going to see a full display in Los Angeles. And I've said this before, bro. It's not the whole party. When you're a godless, they don't. Bro, pro-abortion. Can you honestly be fair? Because I've asked them before. Name one Democrat leader that's openly like, hey, listen, I'm a Christian. I believe in Christ. Go. Zero. I've thought of this before. You can see theirs. I'm sure you saw this clip. Go for it. This is the Democrats when Tallarico won in Texas. Play it, ladies and gentlemen. Abortion is so bad. Woo! Murder.

1:36:27What? What is this? Murder. This is Texas, bro. Tallarico hat. I don't want to get faith-driven here, but this does seem like it constantly talk about how it's a spiritual attack. And if you look at everything they represent, they're anti-truth positions. In other words, like if you were to believe God is absolute truth, they don't take positions that are like counter-truth. They take the full opposition that the beauty of a baby is irrelevant. It doesn't exist. In fact, you should celebrate your abortion. We've done away completely with any type of respect for the idea of biology. What really upsets me is that I've got three kids, and one of whom is getting old now.

1:37:05And if they were to ever do something like that. Oh, my God. And not that I would be angry. It would be like that, I'm just so disappointed. Do these girls not have fathers who say, even if you support abortion, understand it's an evil and that you should not celebrate it, let alone define your promise. Are you ready for this? Where do these, like, they look like they probably come from good homes. White, girls, Texas. It's the school. It's the people that are in the school and social media. I will tell you, like, one thing that I would nudge more people to get involved is I would nudge more pastors to go run for office.

1:37:42Yes. I would nudge more. I would be nudging my pastor. And by the way, whoever your senior pastor is, however good he is on the pulpit. And by the way, what do most pastors do? They debate other people on religion constantly, right? So think about some of these Cliff Neckley and, you know, these guys that are very good at debating different religions and all this stuff, these guys. I think we need to encourage some of these guys to go run. So imagine if things start opening up with prayer. There's so many talented pastors who are debating their faith that need to consider running for office. What happened with Tallarico, if you think about it?

1:38:17He looked like a pastor-ish type of a guy that was running, but he was on the left. Yes. Well, why aren't more people on the right running? Why aren't more Christian pastors running for office? I think the entire premise, like I would go sit down with one pastor in Pasadena. We would do Bible study from 6 to 2 o 'clock. Every question I would ask him, he already had a rebuttal. How does he have a rebuttal? Because he's answered that thing 500 times to 500 other people. So the element of being prepared for debate is good. So if you have a senior pastor, recommendation for you, go send a message to him.

1:38:48Text him right now if you have a relationship with him. and say, Pastor Jones, Pastor John, Pastor Dudley Rutherford, have you thought about running for office? Why not? Have you thought about bringing it back to a little bit of faith? Why not? Have you thought about having a conversation with them? Why not? I'd like to see more of that taking place, but I want to transition to this next story. Weird story. None of you guys are ready that I want to bring up this story, but I want to see how you react to it. Ellen DeGeneres posts a video getting very emotional. If you go to her Instagram account, you'll see which one it is.

1:39:18got millions and millions of views. I think I like 19, 20 million views. And she posts a tearful video tribute to Matthew Wright, a longtime EP, executive producer of her talk show, who died suddenly in LA. This is it. Who died suddenly in LA on October 30th at the age of 52. And if you watch this video, play the first 20 seconds. I even liked this post because it was emotional. Go ahead.

1:39:47I don't know if any... So Matt Wright, who was our executive producer and was featured on our show a lot, died the other day. And he was an amazing guy. He was funny. God, he made me laugh. He would surprise me with things that he did all the time. he was smart. He was kind. He was a part of our show that, I mean, everyone loved him. Everyone loved him. I loved him. You can pause it right there. Okay. So emotional, sincere. You feel it. The family sets up a$50 ,000 goal to bring him home to New York. Funeral costs, everything, trust, all that stuff. And Ellen donated$5 ,000. there's a lady that's worth a half a billion dollars your ep dies that have been with you for decades not just one your associate producer or something like that what do you think about that tom does that say anything to you the fans have lost their mind they're like you're worth this much money you're only given 5 000 honors do you have any position on this of her giving 5 000 to the ep's family so has the family said anything because what i don't know is maybe behind the scenes that was my first reaction is that maybe she doesn't want to take over the whole campaign if she goes in that draws attention away unless people are less likely to donate so like before i comment and say something i don't know if she went and gave them a million dollars that nobody knows about uh i do know that there was a another death on her show by twitch he uh had committed suicide incredible incredible talent uh and i think there she did take care of uh she was actively involved.

1:41:37I don't know. I don't know if you guys remember the rumors of how happy she was on her show. There was allegations where people couldn't even look. They were told, if you look in her eyes, you're going to get fired. If you were sick, they would fire you. Racism, humiliation. Bro, and this is all remember all the dancing and everything after that, you found out how she was. And this was from people that worked there. Yeah, numerous people said she was terrible. And it was horrible. Horrible. I feel the emotion. I'm not taking that away Like, I feel for her. It gets me emotional thinking about that because that means you know she loved him, and I'm pretty sure, you know, it went both ways.

1:42:14And, again, we don't know, but if it's only$5 ,000 and you're putting out, guess what then? Then don't even donate the$5 ,000 for people to see it. Just send it to them. That's the problem. Just send it to them. So the problem, what people are saying is you would have been better off not giving anything and giving an amount behind closed doors. Because if you gave publicly on GoFundMe$5 ,000, that's making people think you didn't give anything else behind closed doors. That's what people are doing. But also, I just wanted to double-check that it was the family that set up the GoFundMe or the fundraiser.

1:42:42First of all, GiveSend. They ended up raising$94 ,000. TMZ, Independent, they paid six. They looked at it. There's been no other money that's been publicly given to the family that they know about. First thing is use GiveSendGo and not GoF me, as I like to call it. But set that aside. The fact that the family had to set one up means that I would have imagined that a producer would have made a decent living on her show, that the family doesn't need to raise money to bury their kid. It depends on the produce. There's numerous tiers of what produce. Yeah, but was he an EP? Was he an EP? If you're an EP, bro, you're getting checks.

1:43:16If you're an EP. Whatever you are, if you don't have enough money and your family doesn't have enough money to bury you in death, I mean, that's... Well, they're saying that they wanted to transfer him from somewhere to New York. Yeah, but that's still Vinny. No, I'm with you. It is odd. That's not a... Oh, no, I'm with you. By the way, like you said, and then here's a flip side. Other people are going to say, well, she put the$5 ,000 so people could see that her name is there so that they'll be like, oh, if Ellen's doing it, oh, let me do it. But this is a backfire. But it is weird that they can't afford, now that I think about it.

1:43:47An EP on that big of a show makes minimum$250 ,000. It's odd. Minimal. An episode. No, no, no. For a year. Long-term EP more, for sure. Yeah, an episode 250. But then you can be all the way up to half a million dollars on a big show like that. Let's play like super devil's advocate. Maybe she knows that the family's trying. You know, it's not a fraud. Maybe she is suspicious of the reasons for them doing it. Who gives a sweet, merciful goodness? She could afford to have someone misappropriate, steal$100 ,000 from her. You make a big, a splashy donation to set the mood. $5 ,000? It's a weird. A little weird when you see that.

1:44:22Plus, given the rumors about her behavior, you know, she does look upset there. But she does have a reputation of not being the nicest person on earth. Someone can be very emotionally affected by something. and still have a character type to not. Like there are just certain people that are like that. It doesn't mean it doesn't emotionally hurt her. She might just be the type who just doesn't. Let me read two other things for you. We'll go to, what do you call it? We'll go to Johnny Depp, which some news came out. Could be good news for some people. I'm happy about this if it ends up happening.

1:44:51Do you remember when Johnny Depp was in court over Amber Heard and Disney kind of distanced themselves because they believed that Russell Brand ended up being guilty. Johnny Depp didn't end up being guilty. Everybody hated this guy. For many years thinking, how dare you treat Amber Heard that way? They're like, wait a minute. She's the evil one, not Johnny Depp. Well, story comes out saying, I will never do Pirates of the Caribbean. What if they pay this much money? I will never do Pirates of the Caribbean. I don't know if you remember this or not. Yes. You don't remember this? I will never do Pirates of the Caribbean.

1:45:19If you guys can find that clip in the back, Johnny Depp now no longer rules out a Pirates of the Caribbean return after years away from the franchise. so Johnny Depp could make that comeback. 50 million, never. 100 million, never. 150? Maybe. Shutting the door down on Pirates of the Kyrm. Depp previously said that wasn't anything that could convince him to return after the fallout. Now it sounds like he's changing his tune and is open to reprising his role as Jack Sparrow. The situation is right. The film was released 2003 and ushered in a new era of superstardom for Depp. Four more films were released from 06, 17, and Depp always reprising his role.

1:46:01The franchise never returned past 2017, following the follow-up between Depp and his ex-wife Amber Heard, who was famously successfully sued for defamation of abuse, allegations published by the WAPO. The only involvement I really want to have, truly, is just to send them off on a better note. Depp told Entertainment Tonight, I'll go to work with producer Jerry Buckenheimer tomorrow for anything, he continued. If it's Jerry, I trust him, and we have deep friendship at his best. The franchise is great. cinema at its finest. Dep is starring in Ebenzir, set for release November 13, 2026, and date drinker, scheduled for 27.

1:46:37So do you think it'll actually happen? Is this the interview of him saying he'll never do it? Is this the one that he said he'll never do it? Or is this the one that says he will do it? Okay, play clip. Go for it. I don't know if you'll see us at sale. We might do that privately. If things are

1:46:58exactly where they need to be with regard to how they're going to top off the pirates thing. The only involvement that I really want to have truly is just to send them off on a better note. I gotta work with Bruckheimer tomorrow for anything you know doesn't matter if it's Jerry do you think he'll do it I think I'm gonna say I don't think so just from his in acting Pat you know they say take space take time people rush into acting he's how slow I thought the speed was on point five He's like, and I told him that. And I'm like waiting. But by the way, there is no Pirates of the Caribbean without Johnny Depp.

1:47:59He would do one of the most phenomenal. By the way, the second one, the third one, it was just you always wanted to watch him. I hope for redemption and not necessarily revenge. But we were in that era of time where it was like, believe all women. But wait a minute. There's no she's lying. Believe all women. I don't care. You know, the whole I'm with her. Baylor E. Clint. This doesn't make sense without him. And I hope. I mean, he's getting freaking older. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention. He's getting. I mean, besides the slow talk. But I am a huge, huge Johnny Depp fan from when he was in.

1:48:31Bro. Freddy Krueger. Oh, my God. He's in the first one. He's getting sucked into the bed. And by the way, that scarred me. I wouldn't go to the bed. With the waterbed spray. I love that. The TV gets sucked in there. The blood's on the. By the way, one of. It's stuck with me forever. From, you know, No Fear and Loathing to all the Alice in Wonderland. This guy is freaking amazing. I hope, I hope he does. I'll say 75 % he comes back. But think about that story. You guys told me to go to hell. I freaking lost everything. Everybody, by the way, because you know people still see him. You know what they say to him?

1:49:05You're a scumbag and it's not going to go away. But that movie franchise does not exist without him. Nobody could replace him. For my selfish reasons, I want him back. But I don't know. 75%. You know, there's some crazy stories about Johnny. He spends so much time in hospitals dressed as Jack Sparrow to cheer up the children. Have you seen those, Pat? Where he dresses up. You can find that Connor just really quick. He goes into hospitals on his off time when they're not shooting, dressed up as freaking Jack Sparrow and hugged. Doesn't do it with any media. No media. He just comes in. Parents are recording stuff.

1:49:40He goes into these hospitals and the faces of these kids that are in bad shape and dying. Bro, look at what he does. That's really him? That's him. He does it all the time. Do it again? Look, I wish we had it without the people. He's like, he speaks with the accent and everything, Pat. And the sidekicks come with him. No media attention around it. He just does it because he loves to do it. Awesome, bro. You know the actor who recently died of ALS? He allowed that guy to stay in his house to alleviate the burden of the cost of treating his ALS. There's so many stories that have come out about Johnny Depp.

1:50:13He's amazing. There's a Calci market. It's at 67%. that he'll be in the next movie. I think he will do it as a final send-off. I really, really do. I love Johnny Depp, one of my favorite actors of all time, just in terms of the diversity of roles he plays. What do you think, Pat? You think yay or nay? He has to do it. Okay. He has to. And by the way, I'll tell you from different angles why he has to do it. One, I think he has to do it because he needs the money. Okay? I think he hasn't done a big thing for a while, and sometimes, you know, with some of the habits that he had, he was a big spender.

1:50:42So I don't know how much of the money he's... The Fantastic Beast, wasn't he in that whole thing? he's probably going to need to make the money. And number two is, this is your art. You were born to do this. You know, he's one of the few people in the world that does what God put him here to do. He's one of the greatest actors of all time. When this guy, you would see the, did he do the chocolate? Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka, right? He was Willy Wonka, 100%. He has done so much great work. In my opinion, he's in my top 10 of greatest actors. I can watch this guy. Oh, yeah. His work is just phenomenal.

1:51:16what he does. I think he's going to do it. I don't think it's going to be a no. And you know why you're right? He was reportedly spending $30 ,000 a month on wine, which is$300. I'm being dead serious. From a legacy perspective, this is the apology. This is the apology to him from the movie industry. And also, you imagine the jokes that they can put into this movie. Make the villain, name the villain Amber or something. And you ready for this? In 2018 Rolling Stone interview, Depp actually said the reporter amount was too low. He goes, it's insulting to say that I spent$30 ,000 on wine because it's way far more.

1:51:54He's amazing. It was far, far more. He's a gangster. Let me wrap it up with this last one here, and then we'll finish it off. So I saw this story. The other day I was talking to Tom. It's been now a year and a half that Bailey's been in school. Is it a year and a half, two years, something like that, that Bailey's been in school. And so I said, Tom, I said, hey, Tom, have you adjusted? And Tom's like, it's interesting you ask that question. You know, you never fully adjust, but I'm kind of there, you know, where it's like you see and, you know, every moment I get for Bailey to come here from school, I want to have it.

1:52:28But at first when it happened, Tom had a hard time with it. When we were at dinner one time, I was asking him about it. And then every time I see Tico, I'm like, man, dude, I've got four more years with you, guy, and I appreciate it. I read this the other day. I think some parents will relate to this. And I think some kids who ever wonder why fathers do what they do, it's like, dude, why does he do that? What's wrong with this guy? So he says, my dad drove 40 minutes to pick me up at the airport. I was furious. I had already told him I was taking the train. Don't come pick me up. It was almost midnight.

1:52:59He was standing by the car in his slippers. You shouldn't be driving this late. Nice to see you too. He picked up my suitcase, back in the car, I brought it up again. Dad, the train drops me off, particularly at the front door. I know. And now you have to drive all the way back home with me. I know that too. He didn't argue. He just kept driving. Then I noticed a paper bag between us. An egg sandwich, an apple, the same lunch he used to pack for me when I was a kid. You probably ate something on the plane, he said. I wasn't sure. I ate the sandwich. He asked me about my trip. Our phone calls were usually short.

1:53:39How's everything going? Good. Just busy with work. But this time we had 40 minutes. So I told him about the presentation that had gone badly. Then I told him about the co-worker who had helped me. About the hotel window that wouldn't close. About the dinner I had eaten alone. He missed our exit because he was too busy asking what happened next. Neither of us mentioned it. When we pulled up outside my apartment, I tried one last time. You know you didn't have to do this. He kept his hands on the steering wheel. I know. You can get home on your own. Then he looked at me. I just wanted to hear how your trip went.

1:54:17That's when I realized something. I had spent the entire drive explaining why he didn't need to pick me up. And he had spent the entire drive asking me about my life. We sat there a little longer. then I told him something about work that I'd never had the courage to tell anyone. He didn't give me any advice. He didn't tell me what I should have done. He just listened. Then he said to me, you'll figure it out. It was such a simple thing to say, but somehow I needed to hear it from him. The next morning, I checked my return flight for the following month. I started typing. Don't worry about picking me up.

1:54:51I deleted it. Then I typed. Are you free on the 18th? My flight lands at 7. I started the message. Then I hit send. My text back, 7 a.m. or 7 p.m. He said, 7 p.m., good. We can have dinner. A few seconds later, unless you already ate it on the plane, I smiled. Some people say, I love you. Others drive 40 minutes at midnight with an egg sandwich on the passenger seat. Isn't that amazing, Tom? I read this, and I thought of you.

1:55:27Here we go. That's it. I can't look at Tom. I'm crying. That's it. I bring her a Chipotle and a Red Bull. And I pick her up at Fort Lauderdale. I swear to God. Oh, a Chipotle and a Red Bull. I bring her the Chipotle bull she likes and a Red Bull. Isn't that great? And every time she comes, we go to dinner as a family. We enjoy each other's company. Sometimes you get so caught up with all the stuff that's going on, the politics, business, career, finance, money, all this stuff, and you forget that sometimes just enjoy the flipping convo with your kid. And sometimes I'm sitting there and one of my kids just wants to tell me for 45 minutes about something I have no interest in.

1:56:09And I just sit there and I'm like, dude, flush it out. Tell me whatever you're thinking. What do you got? What do you want to tell me? Tell me whatever you're thinking because this is not going to be around forever. You know, we're aging. Fast. You know, this thing goes very, very fast. I got a 14-year-old, a 13-year-old, a 10-year-old, and a 5-year-old. And if I had it my way, I would have 20 more kids just to have kids in my house. But for some of us who are at certain ages where we're thinking, why is my dad, why is my mom, why are they doing this? I just want, man, they just want to spend some time with you.

1:56:41That's all they want. They just want your company. I'm the happiest when my kids are around me. Happiest when my kids are around me. So I don't know who had to hear this message, but I saw this. I thought of Tom, wanted to share it with you, and it looks like you want to say something. Yeah, and I'm so sorry, Pat, because I wanted to give the flip side as the kid when it comes to, you know, looking at the parent. Like with my mom, and, you know, I talk to her every day, and, like, sometimes you don't get to see them as much as you want. And I tell people, I saw a video, and a guy was sitting with another guy, and they were talking about parents and seeing them.

1:57:12And, like, especially if they're in your life and you're involved. Like, my dad died when I was young, but my mom's still there. and he looked at the guy and he goes oh he goes wait a minute you don't see her he goes how many times you see your mom uh a year and he goes maybe once he goes how old is she he's like 70 he's like nah I got I got 10 years he goes he goes no you don't he goes no you don't you have 10 visits he goes and it hit me it got me emotional he's like you only have 10 more times that you're going to see her and she could probably be gone so I tell people if you're questioning if you're thinking about it go besides calling them go surprise them me and my family pat we for years we always do this i would go and be in the trunk my sister would be in the air force i'd show up in colorado they'd show up in the trunk and they'd open it my they'd tell my mom we're shopping and there's something in there she'd open it and i'd surprise the hell out of her and the happiness that you get from them and i love that you said it it's time guys it's going like this and for anybody out there that's in their late 30s and 40s are the days getting quicker are you waking up on friday and going what the hell happened to the week it's gonna go like that call them talk to them i'm telling you guys right now the happiest you're going to make these people your parents is just knowing that you're caring that you love them three i love you that's it just want to let you know click you'll make their freaking day all right with that being said gang today's what What is today?

1:58:36Oh, we're doing a podcast. I forgot what day it was. Tomorrow, Pete Buttigieg's interview will be dropping. Tomorrow. We have an event called CXO that we have 75 business owners that will be coming here with their executive team that will be spending the next two days with them. But tomorrow, Pete Buttigieg's interview will be dropping. I think you're going to really, really like it because he reveals what the game plan is for 2028. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.